City Council - Regular Meeting

Welcome everybody to the city council workshop of mobility fees uh which is April 6, 2026. If you guys could please uh stand for the pledge and invocation to the flag of the United States of America to the republic stands nation

Lord heavenly father thank you for allowing us to meet here tonight. Lord help this council to make great decisions for our community uh for those that are living here now and in the future. In your name I pray. Hi ma'am. Miss Sykes, will you please call the role? Council member Jernigan, present. Council member Harris, present. Council member Young here. Council member Carter present. Mayor Walker here. Manager Rosenthal here. City Attorney Martin here. Chief Butler here.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Lake City Council has opened its public meeting. Since 1968, the city code has prohibited any person from making personal, impertinent, or slanderous remarks or becoming boisterous while addressing the city council. Yelling or making audible comments from the audience constitutes boisterous conduct. Such conduct will not be tolerated. There's only one approved manner of addressing the city council and that is to be recognized in the dispute from the podium. Failure to abide by the rules of the quorum will result in removal from the meeting. This uh is the workshop for mobility fees. This will be followed directly by our regular session. Um, so we will move directly into our presentation. Mr. Robert Angela, you want to introduce it?

Reintroduce it. They're working on. All right. Good afternoon everyone. So, this is the mobility plan and mobility fee presentation. So, the goal tonight is to get some direction from the city council is what direction they want to go. Um, so there's a couple things that we'll go over after presentation and kind of get some feedback from the council so that way we can start with the drafting of the final ordinance um, and get that back in front of the council. But at this time, I'd like to go ahead and turn it over to Lauren Rushy and she is going to present the mobility plan and fee for us. Thank you. Thank Thank you, Mr. Angela.

All right. Thank you, Robert. Uh, good evening, mayor, council members. Lauren Rushing, transportation planner with New Urban Concepts. Uh thank you for having me again here this evening. Um as Robert mentioned uh this is our third workshop for the city's mobility plan and fee. And so we'll structure this similar to how we how we have with the previous workshops. I'll just give a short presentation. Um a lot of this will be things you've already heard but it's been a while since we've been before you. So uh we'll repeat some of that information for you. Uh and then we'll open it up for Q&A and uh discussion. All right. And so, um, with that, uh, the mobility plan projects are focused throughout the entire city and all council districts. There are some projects that are identified outside of Lake City's city limits, and that's just in recognition that travel does not end and begin at your city limits, but that we're planning for a complete and connected uh, multimodal system. Uh, these projects do look out into a 24-year planning horizon. And so this plan sets the vision for Lake City from a transportation perspective out into 2050. Um it does focus on how we're moving people throughout Lake City, whether they're walking, biking, riding transit, driving, or using other mobility devices. Um and then we have the mobility fee, which is a mitigation fee that's paid by new development to mitigate its transportation impact on the offsite transportation system. Um, and that fee is paid by new growth only. And so, just as a reminder to you all and then anyone in the audience today, this is a fee that is not a tax on existing residents. It's not an assessment on existing homes. It's a fee that's paid by new development only and is a fee, a one-time fee to u mitigate its impact to the transportation system. Um, this that you see on screen is the assessment area that encompasses the entire city limits. So there is one assessment area for the entire city. So

that means if you're a developer and you're coming in with an application, depending on the land use that you're developing, you would pay the same fee no matter where you're developing throughout the city. Um the city does not currently have a road or transportation impact fee or a mobility fee. The county does have what they call a transportation impact fee, but they do not require Lake City or any other municipality in its limits to collect that fee on its behalf as many counties in Florida do. Um, so this would be a completely new fee. Um, it's the only transportation fee that would be assessed within Lake City. Um, and this would require a uh amendment to your current code of ordinances and would add an article six called mobility fees under chapter 86, which is your current chapter on streets, sidewalks, and other public spaces. Uh, that ordinance has been provided to you as part of the backup for today's presentation. Um, this fee is intended to replace your current transportation concurrency system and put a transportation mitigation system in place that would help you all kind of get ahead of development by having that guiding plan as well as a funding mechanism to fund transportation projects that would uh address the needs from that new development. Um, oh, and then one last thing I'll mention there is that since you're replacing your transportation concurrency system, Florida statute does require that you update your comprehensive plan uh within a year of adoption of the plan and fee uh so that you can remove any language regarding transportation concurrency and any language that just might be in conflict with properly implementing the mobility plan and fee. And so that uh comp plan amendment is included as part of our scope. And so if you also choose to adopt the plan and fee, we will come be coming back before you uh with that comp plan amendment. Um this is the mobility plan. We have broken this down into three kind of sub

plans. Uh the first is the streets plan and that addresses uh improvements that would be in between existing curbs. Uh we also have the trails and greenways plan. This is addresses much of your uh multimodal improvements. And then we also have a separate intersections plan. Um so the mobility plan addresses roadway projects, multimmoal projects and intersection projects on city, county, and state roadways throughout Lake City. Um those projects are detailed in the mobility plan report as well as a mobility fee technical report. Um if those reports have not been provided to you yet, they should be very shortly. Um, so our time over the last few months has been spent on really detailing all of this uh in the final documentation that would um potentially be adopted. Um, some of the overarching goals, and I've mentioned this before, but as we were making plan recommendations, um, the overarching goals that guided that process were that we wanted to create a complete and connected multimodal transportation system that addresses safety for both vehicular and multimodal travel. We also looked at how do we reduce uh existing congestion and prevent congestion in the future. And then there was also a big emphasis on walkability in your downtown historic district and CRA uh as well as just generally kind of setting that transportation framework for redevelopment of your urban core area. Um these are this is just an overview of some of the types of projects that are included in the mobility plan. So, we have things from roadway improvements, roadway widenings, evaluations for new roadways that would improve connectivity, trails, intersections, uh low-speed streets, which we're calling neighborhood greenways. Uh we've also included two projects that were originally identified in the CRA plan. Uh that being a prominade at Lake Dotto, uh as well as a lane reduction on US90,

uh the segment of US90 that goes through the CRA. Um, and so again, this is all detailed in the mobility plan report and the technical report. Um, but this really is an all-encompassing plan that addresses mobility and safety for all modes of travel within Lake City. The overall cost of the mobility plan, so we did put together some uh planning level cost estimates. The overall cost of the plan itself is roughly $500 million. Um, however, we are required uh by Florida statute to anticipate uh any additional funding sources or funding sources outside of mobility fees that may be used to fund these projects. Um, so it's worth note that some of the projects we've included here are projects that have already been planned or identified by the county or by the state. Um, we did include those projects so that we could provide uh the overall big picture of what your transportation system could look like in 2050. Um but many of those projects are already slated for funding. So that's something we took into account. Um we did u provide recommendations for additional projects on state and county roadways. It would be really hard to address transportation and mobility in Lake City without thinking about state or county roads because you have so many of them. Um so what we did for those is that we anticipated that 90% of those project costs would be funded by the state or the county. Um, and so that leaves a little bit of room for you all to use mobility fees as a local match to help move those projects along. Um, but the majority of the burden of the cost for those projects would be on the county um, and the state. And so considering that, we are anticipating that about 369 million of that 500 million uh, would be funded by other means. And so that leaves an attributable cost for the city of 137 million over that 24-year uh planning horizon. I also want to stress that this is a vision plan. You all are

not obligated to construct these projects. If you adopt this plan, um that process would happen as a part of your capital improvements programming and your budgeting every year. You would take a look at how much revenue you have from mobility fees and you would be deciding at that time what projects should be implemented, if any. Um so adopting this plan does not mean that you are beholden to this but it does provide a vision for the city. Um in the ordinance that we provided we do also have a provision that says if mobility fees are not spent within 7 years you have to refund them back to the applicant. And so if you know that kind of just provides a check that if for whatever reason that funding is not being used uh we're not taking that and and and not using it for no reason that it would be refunded back to the developer. Um this is your benefit district. So this is required by Florida statute to provide a clear and defined boundary for the expenditure of mobility fee revenue. Um and this just ensures that those mobility fees that are being paid by new development are being used on mobility plan projects that then bring a benefit to that development. Um and that's something called the the rational nexus requirement. Um, this benefit district does extend beyond city limits. Again, just to ensure that it encompasses all the projects we've identified in the plan. If you had a benefit, if you had a project that was outside of the benefit district, uh, per statute, you would not be able to spend mobility fee funding on that. So, that's why you see a little bit of a broader area here. Um, the city is required also to establish a special a special revenue fund for mobility fee uh, for a mobility fee benefit district. Um, and that also just ensures that mobility fee revenue is spent on projects in the mobility plan and it doesn't get wrapped in with the general fund. Um, and this just shows uh this again is the mobility fee technical report. So

all of the data and the analysis and the methodology for how we calculated the fee is documented here. Um, and this is also what shows that your mobility fee is consistent with Florida statute. Uh it's not a very interesting read, but you're more than welcome to read through that if you're curious about our methodology. Uh this graphic kind of provides the 18 steps that we use. And this is something that is uh tailored to some degree to each community that we work in. Um but it's also a fee that was developed all the way back in 2009 as a case study for the state of Florida. Um and has been tried and true uh through mediation and negotiations um with local governments. And so just to kind of pull some of the summary data from that technical report and show you a little bit of what we did. Um when we are uh when we are calculating the mobility fee, we're required to demonstrate that there is a demand for the projects in the mobility plan. And we demonstrate that by showing the future travel demand. And so we took historical growth rates from the Lake City area. We used those to project future traffic out into 2050. Um, and what we found is that Lake City can expect to see over 700,000 what they call vehicle miles of travel, uh, an increase of 700,000 vehicle miles of travel in the future. Uh, we then used a conversion factor that's provided through the National Household Travel Survey to convert that to person miles of travel because when we're developing the mobility plan and the fee, we're not just thinking about vehicle travel, but we're thinking about how people are getting around Lake City. Um, and so when we look at that conversion factor, we're actually expecting an increase of over a million person miles of travel uh within your area uh that would need to be mitigated through mobility plan projects. Um, and so finally, we use that to calculate a rate per person miles of capacity that is being added to your transportation system through those

mobility plan projects. And that leads us to the final mobility fee calculation. uh and this is where we get the rate that is provided to you all uh in the schedule that's within that ordinance. And so in simplified terms, we calculate this by looking at that attributable cost of the mobility plan. We then look at the person capacity that would be added to your transportation system through those projects. And then we also consider average trip generation rates that are provided through the IT trip generation manual. Um and that sort of provides the recipe that gives us the final rate. And so um these are the rates that that development would be paying depending on their land use and depending on the applicable unit of measure. Um when we develop these schedules, our goal is to kind of find a balance between wanting to charge development for the true impact of that land use. Um but also wanting to kind of streamline and make this as simple as possible for your staff to administer. So you may have seen some old road impact fee schedules from 5 10 15 years ago um where they have like 40 or 45 different land uses. Uh we don't think that's terribly useful. Uh we tend to categorize things based on how many trips are generated per day. Um and we find that a more streamlined schedule has been uh more useful for staff and leads to less back and forth between uh the city and development. Um I will mention that this is more or less the same as what you saw in December. the rates are slightly different and that's just because we did make some tweaks to some of the mobility plan projects based on um staff recommendation. Uh so those the schedule is slightly different than what was presented to you in December. Um but nothing really significant um that would need to be pointed out. Um we also one of the things we did with this schedule was we converted the unit of measure for many of the land uses from per thousand square foot to square foot. that was also on recommendation from your staff. That doesn't change the f the final rate

the development is paying. Uh staff just thought it would be easier to show it that way on the schedule, easier for them to assess. So that's why you'll see the per square foot here. Um lastly, probably the most significant change that we've made uh since I was before you all in December is that we did add a local retail category under the retail land uses. This is a pre-calculated rate that would assess local businesses at half the cost of the multi-tenant retail rate. And so essentially, you're giving your local and small businesses a 50% discount. Um, Florida statute does allow you to provide exemptions or discounts for affordable housing, which we do also have an affordable housing land use category in your schedule. Uh, and also for economic development. And so we tend to address that through a local retail category and that just relieves the burden of the fee for your small businesses whereas your your bigger businesses, your chain restaurants and things like that would still have to pay the full mobility fee. Um and that is something where you all would have to develop criteria to determine what qualifies as local retail. Um and then you would be able to assess that rate to those businesses. And so we'll just look at a couple of examples of what this looks like in reality. Um the first example is for a 1500 square f foot single family residential house. This is assessed on a per square foot basis basis. So the rate per square foot is $1.77. Um and the way we structure our mobility fees is by the time it gets to the end user, it's just a really simple calculation. Um, so all you have to do is multiply 1.77 by 1,500 and that would give you a final uh mobility fee rate of $2,655 for that single family home. And again, that is a one-time fee that is only assessed when the home is built. Um, our next example would be a

commercial example. And so, let's say you have a 4,000 ft McDonald's restaurant. It's got one drive-thru. that McDonald's would pay uh for the the building square footage of the McDonald's, they would pay the convenience retail rate. That's $13.26 per square foot. And then they would pay an additional fee for the drive-thru lane because that's generating separate trips. Um and that tends to be very high impact. And so that's why you see the $20,000 per lane. Um and so that would lead to a final mobility fee for the McDonald's of $73,000 about $73,000. Um, and so this is where you see the mobility fee a little bit higher and that is because these are your high impact uses. Um, so for example, a single family home when you're looking at the trip generation, those tend to generate about nine trips per day whereas a McDonald's would generate into the hundreds of trips. So they're paying a higher fee because they have a higher impact on the transportation system. Um, one of the other questions that came up is, well, what happens when you have a change of use? So, for example, let's say there's a bank. It's got a couple of drive-throughs, but we're converting that to a racetrack gas station. Uh let's say that gas station is 6,000 square feet and it has 16 pumps. So, what you would do in that case is you would just less out what the bank would be paying uh from what the gas station would need to pay. So, you essentially take the mobility fee rate would be the difference between those two land uses um as long as the original land use has not been vacant for more than 3 years. Um, and so that's something that we would be happy to take guidance from you on. But the way that the ordinance is written currently is that if a building has been vacant for more than 3 years, then the impact of that business would be considered null and the new use would need to pay the full fee. Um, but let's say we have an active bank use. Um, so the gas station that's coming in would

pay the retail rate for the gas station building, which is usually a convenience store. They would also pay a separate rate for those fueling positions. The bank in theory would have to pay the high impact retail rate for the bank building and then they would also pay separately for the drive-throughs. And so this is what that calculation would look like. So normally if it was a brand new gas station with 16 pumps, they would look be looking at paying around $239,000, but the bank would be paying around $63,000. So, you would essentially just uh subtract 63 from the 29 uh to for from the 239, and that would give you a total mobility fee of $175,000 for that new gas station. Um, and then we just have the mobility fee schedule. Again, this has been provided to you in the ordinance. I'm not going to go through these one by one because we've walked through it before. Um, but this is just here for reference if needed. Uh you'll see we've categorized these into the general land use categories. So you've got your residential uses, institutional, recreational uses, industrial, office. You see we've added the local retail rate to the retail. And then finally, we have what we call the non-residential uses. Those are your additive fees. Um so those would be assessed for bank drive-through lanes, fast food drive-through lanes. Um we've got a category for retail drive-thru. Um, that is because a lot of businesses have started. Um, for example, I was at Target last weekend and I noticed that the Target had about 15 drive-in pickup locations where people can order ahead. They don't have to walk into the Target anymore to buy what they need to buy. They just drive up, someone, an employee comes out from the Target and they pick up their things uh, in that spot. And so that's why we have a retail drive-thru. That business would be assessed per lane for the retail drive-thru as well.

Uh for charging and fueling we have per position and then for uh vehicle mechanics, vehicle repair, uh it would be charged by bay or by stall. Um and so with that, happy to take any feedback or direction from you all. Uh and here to answer questions as needed. Questions from the council for Miss Lauren. I did hear you say if pull the mic. Oh, I did hear you say if a business had been um vacated for three years um if they what if the same person open up that same business will they still have to pay?

So in theory yes because the idea is that the data and the analysis for the mobility fee uh would not have encompassed the impact from that development at the time. So, one of the things we have to do is look at your existing conditions and we factor in an existing conditions evaluation factor into the calculation of that of that fee. And so, when we're looking at the increase in vehicle miles traveled, person miles traveled into the future, um that impact would not have been encompassed into that. So, I mean, that is something that we can change if you all don't like it. Um but that's what we've done in other communities. Is there anything in place for um someone that um lives in Lake City? Any incentives? Say for instance, if I wanted to open a business, would I have to pay the same as somebody from out of town coming in to open a business?

No. So, um, each every applicant, every de development applicant would pay the same fee whether they're a national builder unless they're they categorized for that local retail, then they would get the discount. Um, which is why we've put that in place, but it wouldn't matter if they were, you know, from out of town or from in town, Mr. But yeah, that is why the local retail category is in place though to protect your local small businesses. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I I have three questions, ma'am, and and thank you for coming out again to explain this to us. Of course. Uh so the county and the city will b benefit from the uh mobility fees. Am I correct?

So the mobility fee revenue goes only to the city. Um in theory, the county could uh benefit from a transportation perspective from those projects that you're implementing. Um but it would be an indirect benefit. They wouldn't receive any of that revenue. Okay. Come directly to the city. Yes. Okay. Uh my next question is uh I heard you say something about the residents will not be charged for this. We we don't pay this. The revenue comes from the fees. Am I correct?

Correct. Yes. So it's for new development and uh growth that would expect to generate additional transportation impact. So if you were an existing resident and you were building on your home and you were building new bedrooms, then that would be an additional impact and you would have to pay a fee for that. Um, but if you were, but it is not, if you're not doing anything to your home and you're just living here as an existing resident, you're not experiencing any kind of fee. Okay, thank you for that. Clarify that. Uh, another question. Um, affordable houses. I heard you say affordable houses. Um, so who who would pay that fee? Would that be the homeowner or would that be the contractor? It would be the contractor.

So, the home home owner does not have to worry about that fee. Correct. I want to make sure what uh I'm understanding you correctly. The homeowner would not pay the fee directly. Okay. And there there was uh uh these people who own these car washes, you mean to tell me they got to pay a mobility fee as well? Correct. Yes. Car washes are some of the more higher impact uses and they generate trips um just like any other use. So they would also have to pay. Wow. I mean new new car washes, not the existing car wash. Correct. Yes, I wanted to make sure I get that correct because we we having one coming like right now uh but we have uh other ones around. So I just wanted to make sure I was uh I was understanding correctly.

Okay. So this would only apply to development applications that are coming in 90 days after the adoption of this. Um so if you have something that's been approved currently, they they would not have to pay that fee. Um and again, yes, it would just be for new a new car wash. It wouldn't be on anything existing. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Mr. Carter, you have other questions? I don't have any questions. Okay. I just have um a clarification. I mean, when you said extend beyond city limit, and I think that may be where it comes from that would the um county benefit from this. Will you go back and clarify what you um

Yes. So, um there in there are some cases where we felt that transportation projects were needed um that expanded outside of the city. Um, so because travel doesn't stop right at the city limits and so we wanted to make sure that we have a connected system and so some of those projects, you know, if we put a trail, uh, we want that trail to connect at a logical endpoint. So we didn't just stop it. Otherwise, you know, you're riding your bike down the road and then you don't know where the city limits stop, right? But maybe the sidewalk stops or the trail stops and that's something that in reality you don't want to see. Um, those projects would be county projects. So you all would have to work with the county on implementing those. Um and again we have not included the full cost of those projects in your mobility fee. Um so essentially what you could do is you could take a little bit of mobility fee funding and you could say hey we really want to do this trail. We think it should extend to this point and you would work with the county to say how can how can we get this implemented? Miss Tammy,

the fees that you presented to us, how common are these fees when it comes to a city as big as Lake? Um, most of the communities that we work in are small or medium-sized cities. Um, our company alone has done more than 50 of these across Florida uh in the last 15 years. Um many many other cities in Florida have road impact fees which is a similar but um has some key differences but it's still an impact fee. Um and so you know I would say that would get into the hundreds.

My my question was is it intended um if a commercial building sells that there's impact fees or the mobility fees that go with that sale for the intended use or is it just if that building is redeveloped? So the mobility fee would be assessed at the point of um the building permit. So it would be paid one time as the building is being built. If it was being redeveloped or built, yes, if it was being redeveloped in a way that created more impact. So again, if let's say you had a bank sitting vacant for 2 years, we're redeveloping it into a gas station, then that fee would be paid at the point of building permit for the gas station. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Any other questions? Well, thank you, Mr. Lauren. If uh we have questions and I'm sure all all council members will follow up with Mr. Angelo with any further questions, comments and and wishes to see and how this moves forward. Yep. And I should also mention that we Yeah. Did you want to come up and Yeah. I should also mention that we um have this slated for first reading on the 20th of this month. Perfect. So, thank you, Miss Lauren. Mr. Angela.

So, a couple things that I wanted to get some clarification on, kind of get direction from the city council to make sure how we want to um draft the ordinance and make sure that we have that in the ordinance. One is for economic purposes. You know, we definitely don't want to see economic um opportunities, you know, go away from Lake City. We want to make sure that it's still coming in. So, one of the things that we can do is we can put a um provision in the ordinance that allows for if a um say a development is coming in, they're going to provide 50 jobs that the city council would have the option to wave that um mobility fee in lie of the economic opportunity that they're bringing into our community. And because we definitely don't want to um cancel any kind of economic opportunity that may come in because of a mobility fee. So, we wanted to make sure get some direction from the city council on that. And the other one is to kind of soften the blow. There's a couple of ways that we can um bring the mobility fee into adoption. One is you adopt the full fee. Um and then so after that 90 days um any new development coming in would pay the full mobility fee. The other would be to stagger it over a four-year period where you go 25% the first year, 50% the second year, 75 the third year, and then the fourth year you would start collecting the full fee. And um that way it kind of softens the the transition into the full mobility fee. And so we want to get some direction from the staff and from city leadership kind of see which direction we need to go on those two and make sure we got that in there for you.

Mr. Rosenthal, you have Yes. the city manager's office recommend the ability of this board to wave the fee uh when when they had instances where we felt we should wave the fee. We want to retain that option and also to adopt the fee in a staggered basis so that it gradually comes into full effect. So administrative discretion and um implementation not so much administrative discretion as discretion to the board okay to weigh the fee entirely. council discretion. Council discretion council discretion and um

and uh imple and staggered implementation. I would um in in that my question to you, Mr. Angelo, is um are we able to exclude additions to current homes? Yeah. So, any current home that's in there right now would not pay a mobility fee? The only way they would pay is if they were to go in and um say they added a 500 foot addition onto their home. Sure.

They would only pay for that 500 foot addition. Every business, every landowner is right now would be grandfathered in to what they have. And that's so similar to our utility impact fees where we we look at what the existing use is and then we calculate that to what's going there. So, like in the scenario that Lauren uh presented where you had a gas station going where a bank was, if you had a bank going back into that existing structure, and as long as they didn't increase the square footage or add any drive-through lanes, then there would be no additional um um transportation or impact or mobility fee added to that. Same thing with the homeowners. There would be no additional impact fees as long as even if they sell the property 100 times over, there'd be no additional fees. question derives from the the wish not to put a burden on growing families or families who are having to take care of indigent parents or something along those lines. Um and also single family home builders who are building for new firsttime new build something like that but just one one not necessarily like a whole neighborhood of homes but those one uh lot buildings. Um, and then I'm all for the economic development waving, but I'm I I would like to protect our our families here who are growing or would be growing um and building their live-in situations. Does that make sense?

Yes. Yes, sir. Mr. Rosenthal and Mayor, that's precisely why I wanted to uh wanted the board to retain the ability to wave the fee entirely in situations like that. Okay. Okay. So yes, the way that the ordinance is currently written is that a mobility fee would be owed if there is any increase in square footage, but we can certainly change that language prior to first reading. Yep. Miss Tammy, you had a question? I have a question. Um, we have um sales that are auction homes. If I went and purchased a home, would I have to pay from the auction, would I have to pay an impact fee for that or No, because the fee is only assessed at the time of building permit. So if it's not being built at that time, then you would not need to pay the

Perfect. Any other questions, comments? Yeah, Miss Miss Young and then you, Mr. Carter. Okay. With the wave fee, um is there going to be a um set criterias or it's um builder by? I'd like for there to be a set criteria, Mr. Rosenthal. Oh, I we can do it either way, but what what I had in mind specifically, I'm sorry, did the attorney have something on this particular point. uh when we start talking about uh waiverss and exemptions uh my antenna start uh wiggling a little bit uh as it relates to to constitutional equal protection issues and those kinds of things.

I think there are ways established I know with impact fees where you can do it. I just want to make sure that the same kinds of rules that apply to impact fees don't apply here. So I think there's a way to do it. But, uh, if we're going to go that route, I'd like a little more time to to work with Lauren and her team to to make sure that we don't create a problem for ourselves or that we put the proper mechanism in place. So, I'd say in terms of a second reading, no earlier than the second reading in May and perhaps even the first in June to to kind of hash this out and maybe circulate it and that sort of thing. Okay.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Thank you, Mr. Rosenthal. Mr. Carter. Yes, that was one of the things I was going to say is I wanted to make sure that we're not, you know, getting caught up in a bunch of lawsuits for passing out exemptions in sort of a unfair seeming way. Obviously, um to be clear, Mr. Mayor, is the intention to we're asking questions and then public comment at all and then council discuss or is this council discussion? This is council discussion. Okay.

So, um I think It's very obvious to most I I would say most residents uh of the community and it's one of my most consistent uh complaints or recommendations is streets, sidewalks, street lights and obviously it's one of those things I say this is one of the really important things that we have to focus on. I think we're already starting to see traffic issues. There's already certain times a day when you know our little our little town is like man am I in Jacksonville if I'm over by 75 on 90 for instance in the afternoon or in the morning. Um, so I think this is certainly uh maybe not a super popular idea at first, but it's one of those things where I think 20 years from now we'll be glad we did some of these things. So I think this is uh absolutely something we should start working on doing. Um I think we promised the community a prominade and a band shuttle downtown ages ago and I still get questions about that just about every week. Um so I'd like to see some of those some of those things coming to fruition. Um, I was talking with FWC the other day in Gainesville. Their Sweetwater Recharge facility has been turned into this like trails and natural, you know, which is another thing we're lacking a lot of. A lot of our local neighbors have some great trails and outdoor spaces. So, again, that's something that I'd love to see us invest in. And again, it's something that I actually have people tell me all the time, I wish we had more of. So again, I I say uh anytime development costs more, developers are not going to be stoked about that obviously, but I do think if we can find a balance moving forward that this plan and project. So I think we should absolutely adopt the plan. We've went through that a lot. I like the plan. Um I do think there are some some times when exceptions or exemptions can be made that make sense. Obviously, a very large developer bringing lots of jobs. every large developer always wants to do a little wheeling and dealing and we should be able to find a way to give ourselves that freedom. Um I agree when it comes to adding a small addition to a house. Um if if we're up to me, I wouldn't bother I wouldn't bother

charging an additional impact on a small family that wants to build a a mother-in-law suite out because mom needs to come stay with us or because the kid needs a bigger bedroom, etc. I think that that's kind of um splitting hairs. And uh uh that's the one thing I wouldn't want to be is overly tedious. Uh and then just finally um if we do this and we make the plan and we collect the fees, um I'd like to see the uh us and the staff attack the plan. We have a list 24 years long. Um, I'd like us to come up with, you know, one year, five year, 10 years, what we're going to do when we reach this amount of of of fee collected and then and then really do it. You know, if we're going to make a greenway, if we're going to make a trail, if we're going to have our own Sweetwateresque environment at our recharge facility, like I I want I want action when it comes to these things. I want people to say, "Hey, well, we've been making this for 10 years. What's new?" You know, what's new needs to be super duper obvious all the time. Um, so that's that's my opinion on this. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Carter. And you asked a question if we were going to have public participation. Uh, I would like to recognize that we didn't have any cards turned in for public participation, which is why we we haven't moved into that segment. So, um, does anybody else have any questions, comments from the DAS? All right. Well, that concludes our mobility fee workshop. We will adjourn until our regular session. Thank you very much. Thank you.