Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Well, it's like somebody asked me the other day, I've got a, I got a new lamp, a laser transit. Compared to what I'm used to, used to, you take your tape measure.

Oh yeah, that's what we did.

And go up, and somebody's standing out there going, and if you wasn't on the line, up or down, you know.

Yeah, yeah, you'd have to hold it up until you finally hit it, you know, but that was the way we did it.

That's the way we done it. And, uh, Well, when I got that laser, you just go, you tilt the stick till you hear it, and you go down.

It's just a whole different concept. Well, I used that old forensic for a long, long time, and then back then, Ronnie Lee got the laser. He was digging my foot, and that made it so much easier. Oh, yeah. But I still, and somehow my transit got gone. I used that transit from second or third house on, and I really got used to it, you know, and I kept it in good shape, you know. Somehow it got gone. And I was, I leased two farm services down in Manchester, and they was cleaning out the storage room. And they said, transits are just like mine, but it's just like the one I had. And they said, though, want this thing said it's obsolete now i'm going to throw it away i said well yeah i'd like to have that and actually it was a little better shaped than mine because it hadn't been used much yeah and so i've got it now somewhere and it fit my tripod just right you know but that's what fay and i used to do like on sunday afternoon if i was going to build a house like well i shoot it in you know and just get an idea and i'd like to take you know if i built on the river a lot just looking down that shows the homeowner the door allows now your front door is going to be this level here if we go with this or we can fluctuate it a little bit you know and kind of go over all that yeah oh that's obsolete now i mean you know yeah it's too many easier i'm building two right there and i don't think it's obsolete it's just not used i mean it still works yeah you

and lasers now. But now I've got, we're building two. I just started out an oak tree. a little what about Michael I hate he said he was in workers but without what is building a house like that $200 a foot will I feel pretty good about roughly 222 speech 25 dependent the problem begins with people they want you to build it for $150 foot but then when they get in there and they want to they want the stick frame and they want this they want that they want colonial they won't crown they won't shoot up they won't base they don't want little base they won't think about it i mean they and they don't know what's the difference that may i mean they don't have the elf they won't look yeah uh all that just changes more than they might could even

Okay, good morning everyone, glad you're here.

We'll call the meeting to order. First time of business will be the minutes of our last meeting. Does everyone have a chance to look those over, the additions or corrections?

I make a motion we dispense from the reading and approve the minutes as presented.

Okay, thank you. I have a motion and a second. Any more discussion? If there being none, we'll call for the vote. All in favor say aye. Aye.

Motion carries. Okay.

Now we're going to move right into review of amendments on the zoning code regarding development plans.

That looks good if you want to bring us up to date on it. Yeah, what I'm proposing is just we make an additional part of the zoning code. Just to outline these, this will be at the bottom. It'll be appendix to the zoning code. We require all this now. What has happened is recently, last, fairly recently, in the last year, the state changed some regulations. So it used to be that vested rights were established three years after approval of an application. That has now changed to it's three years at submittal of an application, only if it is deemed substantially complete. So all this we list out in the zoning code. Anyways, we just don't have it broke down in this exact format. And so this clarifies that. and then make sure we're in compliance with that where if we do get a potential applicant, we're getting all the information we need before that vested rights will start. And so that's just what this zoning change is. Like I said, we have all this.

And that could, conceivably, somebody could apply and then things could change. So it would be according to when the time they... Yeah, and then that's why they changed that was at the time of application because you always had the pending ordinance kind of rule.

So it used to be... we'd be able to, if we got an application but something seemed real off with it, you could write regulations if it hadn't been approved during that transition period. We no longer have that. So once an application is received, if it's substantially compliant in accordance with this, then that vesting right starts. So the rules in effect at the time for that period of up to three years would be in effect for that application. So even if we did a complete update on the zoning code, that would not take effect for those applications.

So that essentially keeps the, you know, the rules of the game stay the same for the applicant?

Yes. Yeah, it stays the same. It's just clarifying it and putting in that one. And like I said, if we don't list out every type of application, then it's essentially they gave the site plan, even though it's not a great one or all the information we need, it could start those vests and rides. And so it's the same rules. We just want to make sure we get all the information that we need to say, okay, yes. these these rights are established and then we can proceed from there trying occasionally somebody will want a review not a decision made can they still do that with them if it's a base review and that type of stuff then we should look if it's just hey you know am i missing something but it's not a true application we can actually do that that's not gonna that would not affect that yeah made that this would apply to.

We couldn't act on it, but we could kind of be familiar with it. Yeah, most of this you're doing anyway.

Actually, we're doing it anyway. We collect the information. It's just clarifying that we need it up front. That starts that three-year best of rights. I'll make a motion to approve.

Okay. We have a motion to approve all the amendments that's listed, correct? Yes. OK. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Have a motion and a second. Call for any more discussion. For being none, we'll call for the vote. You'll do a roll call vote just for the vote? Or do we need that today? Probably not. OK. Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Okay. Do we have any staff updates?

We'll be doing some domains. Just curious. I'm probably about 75% complete with it. Wow. But some other stuff came up.

The last 25 will be the hard one.

Like I said, I think the overall would be a much cleaner, easier format for everybody, especially if you're viewing it online. It's going to have the hyperlinks in it, so you'll be able to go back and forth between the code very quickly, and you won't have to look at parking, scroll down to page 20, and then go back to page

Any members have any questions or anything?

The one question I had was, you know, you were out of the room earlier, but I was asking, you know, Rachel, you know, how the city has the authority to justify, you know, limiting what somebody can do in their place of business. You know, this is regarding the data center thing. If it's zoned industrial, how is that non-industrial, I guess?

So what's proposing is just a moratorium on that so we can do studies to see if we to make sure that one we are protecting for the personal property right because we do have to consider that but something doesn't come in that could be potentially devastating we Sean on that I don't state why they saw a discussion on that is it security is that a problem that people are thinking it might draw a terrific water uses as a concern potential environmental impacts draw on natural gas that would be creating a mini plant or high electricity use that affect people's bills um air quality noise but a slew of big factors on that that kind of comes in so it's not one single thing well i know they sell quite a bit of uproar about it with people not wanting their area there is not just here it's across the country

So right now the action is to place a moratorium? Yeah, to do some studies and then shuffle from there, yeah.

It's not a ban on data centers or anything of that nature at this time.

Just maybe a study and more information and certain guidelines I would click on it.

Yeah, and that's what we're looking to do. They're just so new that it's... And again, it's not something that we just don't have in the zoning code or have a lot on. Most places don't because... They're just very new. I mean, it's not something that's been around for, well, data centers have been around for a long time, these larger AI ones, and then these have, they're very new. So we just need to take a pause and take a step back and look at what we've got to do. Okay.

That's interesting. Appreciate your question. Thank you. We have a motion to adjourn. So moved. I have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. All in favor say.