City Council - Special Meeting

Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the special city council meeting on Monday, July 20. Clerk, please call the roll.

All the women Bainey. Here. All the men Glab.

Here.

All the men Doherty.

Here.

All the women Bassey. Here. All the men Davis.

Here.

All the men Cook.

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All the women Miller. Here.

Thank you. Please stand for the pledge. All right, public comment. Is there anyone that would like to make a public comment at this time that's not regarding the discussion of the garbage disposal? Any other public comment? All right, go ahead. And Carl Hertig, if you want to go ahead and speak on behalf of the garbage disposal, that's fine. You can hit that center button, sir. There you go. Floor is yours.

Good evening. My name is Carl Hertig. I'm a resident of McHenry for 40 years, so I've pretty much seen every kind of garbage type that we've had over the years. It's changed often. I'm here to explain to you what I think will be a problem for residents such as myself who live in a household with only two people. Having a tote replacing the sticker will be a burden of cost going from 350 a sticker that I use every three weeks to a tote that will be at minimum $15 a month. It's $117 more a year out of my pocket. Plus, you're talking about nobody's going to be vacuuming leaves anymore. So we have to bag it. Another burden, cost, is there going to be a sticker involved with that? You don't know, you're gonna be talking about it. If there's a sticker involved, that's another cost that I'll have to bear, that I no longer have to bear at this point. Yard waste, right now, we have weekly pickup for yard waste in a container of our own choosing that they can pick up with the arms on your vehicle. If that changes, what are you going to do to alleviate our problem of yard waste that we collect, especially during the summer months, Now, I know years ago, before the yard waste pickup was held behind Knox Park over by the barn, they always had whoever the disposal company was, bought a couple of trucks, we were able to drive in, drop it off at no charge. Another thing that you should be considering when you start looking for and bidding out more companies. The old days, I understand, won't be back I'm not sure I understand why the garbage companies do not want to pick up a bag of garbage that's on the driveway when it's not that heavy and it's quicker and faster for the carrier to get out of his truck, pick it up, throw it in a dumpster and take off than it is for the arm to come down, pick the unit up and bring it back. The last thing is the new tote that we will have to use if we have to go that way. Where am I supposed to put it when I already only have room for one tote as it is? Please take these things into consideration when you talk with your discussion and when you hand out bidding. Thank you for your time, gentlemen. Ladies. Appreciate it.

Any other public comment regarding garbage disposal? All right. We'll go ahead and open up for discussion by City Council. I mean, unless, Russ, you want to go ahead and...

Let me give a quick background and summary on where we are with the current program. We do have approximately one year left on the existing contract with Flood Brothers. It expires July 31st, 2027. In that contract, there is the provision for a city option to an extent for an additional five-year period. That's what we're asking City Council to discuss tonight and provide some direction on is whether we would like to engage with Flood Brothers and negotiate a potential five-year extension, obviously that would have to come back before council for approval prior to being accepted, or if the consensus is to go out to bid on a new garbage contract and open it up to any and all contractors that are able to meet our needs. I did lay out two options in the supplement. One would be to pursue the five-year program and retain the existing scope of services. The other would be if we do go out to bid to have the leaf pickup and sticker program as an ad alternate item on the bid, that way any contractor could bid on the base program and whatever services they are able to provide to the city. And I think that may help give us better results. When we went out to bid last time in 2022, the city only received two bids and several contractors that responded to us cited both the sticker program and the leaf vacuuming as reasons why they were not bidding on our contract. So I think that's something we need to be mindful of. If we do go back out to bid, and Algonquin recently had a similar issue where they were unable to secure bids because of their provision for a sticker program in their contract. So these are things we currently have in the existing contract. And if those are things that council would like to continue to offer to our residents, I think pursuing an extension of the existing contract is probably the route to take, but I will turn it over to council for discussion.

Thank you, Russ. Open up for discussion Alderman Baney.

I just have a question that maybe I missed in the material is if we do extend with Flood Brothers, is there any opportunity to negotiate that contract if we decide to stay with them for five years? For example, if we were to say we wanted to maybe keep the sticker program, but maybe get rid of the leaf vacuuming or something to that nature, is there any opportunity to negotiate that?

The language in the contract just states that to extend based on a future negotiated rate, it doesn't really detail what provisions in the contract are up for negotiation. I would imagine since it's a city option, we could always, if we wanted to exclude a portion of the existing contract, that could be part of the discussion.

Alderman Glenn. Yeah, let's go back to, where leaf pickup first started. And that's back in, I think it was around 99 or 2000. And basically the whole idea was the city wanted to come up with a convenient way for the residents to have their leaves picked up rather than burning. And they weren't going to, there was a big pressure as far as getting a burning ban at the time. but there needed to be some way to dispose of the leaves, and this is when the leaf pickup came. Now, here we are. We're talking about possibly getting rid of it. Well, to some extent, the city kind of almost promised our residents that we would make sure it was taken care of when we got rid of the burning ban. We definitely don't want to see anybody start burning them in their backyards again or anything like that. I think we need to look at all different avenues. I've mentioned it once or twice to Russ as far as, you know, does the city take over as far as picking up leaves? I mean, yes, it's costly to get started and everything else, but down the road, are we better off where it may cost what you said, I think, Russ, somewhere maybe around $200,000 a year to pick up the leaves? But if you compute it to monthly per resident, you're looking at, what did I say, about $3 or so? And how much would a resident save on the rest of the bid if the leaf pickup wasn't there? And I'm just saying that's one of the options. I'm not saying that's the only thing. Are there any companies out there that basically just deal with picking up leaves, leaf pickup, or?

There aren't any companies that I've found that solely offer that service. Most of them that do offer it in our area are the refuse companies, Flood Brothers, Marengo Disposal, I believe LRS also offers, and LRS and Flood Brothers were the only two bidders we had on our last contract.

And I know the waste haulers would love to have them just bagged and pick up the bags, but... You know, I just don't see myself picking up leaves all day long and bagging 50 bags of leaves, because when you have that initial big drop, there's always that one or two weeks where like half of the tree drops and it would easily be permitted to fill 40 to 50 bags full of leaves and. That's going to fill the entire parkway, and it's going to be a mess because the winds are going to blow half of them down. They're going to be blown all over the place. At least when they put on the parkway, after a day or so, they kind of settle down, and so they're not as loose to where the winds grab them as much. But like I say, I think to some extent we need to look down the road here, and I've kind of mentioned this a couple times in the last few years as far as – Can the city take, I think when we negotiated the last contract, the fact that, because they had mentioned the fact that down the road in the future, that was going to go away. And I thought that, well, then maybe the city needs to see what they could do as far as doing it. There might be a cost to it, but there's a great service that everybody in the city wants. I mean, if you don't have trees in your yard, you're going to have leaves there anyway because your neighbors have trees there. the leaves are going to fall. The winds are going to blow them into your yard. I mean, and people need to get rid of them. I mean, what are they going to do? Take a blower and blow them to their neighbor next door. I mean, you don't want to see that happening either. So I think we need to really have some good thought as far as how we're going to handle the leaf program in the future. And as far as the, the bag, uh, there is a percentage of residents that use the bag system because they don't want to mess with the tote. But there are a lot of residents out there, especially seniors that again, won't, won't fill a bag, but once every three weeks and, um, do the residents that use it a lot, uh, have the seniors pay for that, that, that aren't using much, uh, you know, as far as, uh, uh, pickup. I don't know. Is there, how do you, how do you differentiate, uh, who, who picks up, uh, you know, or how, who contributes to that much garbage? I mean, uh, it's very difficult with seniors because you could give a senior rate, but then again, uh, how many seniors might have another family living with them as well.

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But it's just something that we need to look at. I know with a lot of seniors that I've talked to, they worry about not just the cost of the tote, which they feel if they're not using it, they don't want to pay it. But then, you know, I know because I'm getting up in years, it gets a little bit tougher to have to haul those things out, especially if you've got a downward driveway or whatever. Makes it rough for some seniors. with the amount of waste that they have, it's not too difficult to carry a smaller bag to the curb. I just think to some extent, maybe we need to, I don't know, could we get ahold of all these waste haulers and find out what they will or won't bid on? And, you know, maybe, Then we know where we're at as far as I think the more haulers that we have, the better price we're going to get. But then again, whether it be the bag, how do we get around that so that people that don't have much, you don't want people to take a small bag of garbage to work. You know, I mean, and yet you don't want to force every single resident in the city that they have to get a tow because that's basically a tax is what you're doing that, you know. Just throwing these things out for food for thought and for discussion by the rest of the council, you know, maybe between comments from all of us, maybe we'll come up with some real good resolutions for this whole problem.

All right, any other discussion by council? Aldona Miller?

So I guess I became the garbage expert the last time around on this.

I guess I became the garbage expert the last time around on this. Clearly we have three issues. We have garbage, regular waste. We have leafs and we have yard waste or excuse me, stickers. As I've done my own independent research, thank you, Russ, for all the information you provided. But just because I can and I felt I should, I went out to the marketplace and did as much as I could to understand if we're the norm or the anomaly on what we do. And we are clearly not the norm. We are one of the few communities that offers a sticker program still. And then I did a little deeper dive and asked AI because AI is my best friend. Why? And of course, AI was very forthcoming with the information that it's labor intensive. It's a liability. It's a risk. And most disposal companies are going to mechanical arms and mechanical arms cannot lift bags because they shred them. And you only have one guy in the truck. And now we have an issue. So as we learned in our last round four years ago, when we got our current contract or whenever that was, that was the exact same thing that everybody said. Everybody in front of us said the exact same thing, that the sticker program is going to be problematic in the future because the mechanical arms can't do the bags. They have one guy on the truck and I respect our constituents, but the guy has to park the truck Plant the mechanical arms because you can't just leave the truck idle with the mechanical arms in the hydraulics in action for one bag of garbage. It's just I understand that it's not feasible along with the liability. People put God only knows what in black garbage bags with a sticker on them. And then if you have the what I learned is when you have the odd shaped containers, then it becomes even more problematic for the mechanical arms. So if they come to your house and you have a 30 gallon can, they've now crunched your can because they're trying to lift it and it's going cockeyed. Then they go to the next guy's house and they have the plastic can that's not supportive and they crunch it. And now we have garbage everywhere. So I know that it's not a popular decision, but I think I think the sticker thing has to die. And if we have haulers that can't do it or won't do it, even in our last round, we had, was it waste management that actually sent us a letter that said, we don't even want to bid on you because of the sticker program. I think we're going to find the same thing if we go out to bid again. As far as the leaves, we've heard time and time again that sucker upper machine, is problematic. It's difficult to keep running. They aren't, they aren't, they aren't maintaining them because they don't want to do the work. So that machine, whatever the cost is, the waste haulers aren't doing that program and it's a manual program. So you have a human in the truck. I have huge leaves. You have a human in the truck that's manually running the vacuum part. And then you have a human on the street that's manually raking up the debris that wasn't close enough to the curb because the vacuum arm is only four feet. So I think the problem is that fewer haulers want to do this. And again, not by popular choice. I think we're going to have to come up with an alternative. You know, Andy, you and I are in the same boat. I have seven mature maples in my house. They never drop their leaves in the same moment in time. So I am constantly putting Leaves in yard waste containers. I think at one point last year, I had 17 yard waste containers in my front yard full of leaves. It wasn't a problem. Flood Brothers took them all. One load, bing, bang, boom. Was it a pain? Of course it was a pain. But had I just raked them to the ditch, my neighbors would have had seven maple trees full of stuff. So I think we need to be real about our decision and our discussion that in order to get the best rate for disposal services for our community, we're going to have to get rid of the luxury items. And the luxury items are the stickers and the at the curb leaf breakup. We already provide unlimited yard waste, whether it's craft bag or whether it's container. I think that's an adequate provision to get rid of leaves. And I'm okay to make that decision. Thank you.

Thank you. Alderman Benning.

Just to share where I stand on this, I agree absolutely with what Sue's saying about the leaf pickup. It's caused actually just a ton of problems. I don't think it's done really well. I've never seen a human being raking up what they can't get with the hose, by the way, in my experience. So I'm okay with making that tough decision as well. I do know it may be challenging. Homeownership can be challenging sometimes. So I'm okay with eliminating that. I am really concerned about requiring everyone to have a tote only because, you know, we talked about seniors, but there's also a lot of single people that live in our community that aren't generating any garbage either or one or two person households. And I would hope that if we do go out to bid that we can look at some options for either instead of renting the tote every month, like maybe there's some combination where there's a required type of refuge container that and then you still have to have a sticker to put it in there. I'm not sure what that looks like, but we've added taxes to utilities. Utilities are going up. Rotter rates are going up. For people living on a set income or single income, there's a lot of little things that have been adding up over the last couple of years, and some of those have definitely come from the city, and I would hope we can find some space in between there to keep, you know, this is a necessary service. This isn't something people have options. When we make this decision, they have no choice. And so I'm hoping we can keep this as affordable as possible for those individuals. And I'm fine with Flood Brothers one way or another. I could complain about all the garbage companies. So I would be okay with keeping them, but, you know, would like to negotiate some ways to make it affordable.

I'll do it, Miller.

just have a question. And I don't I don't and I apologize for not answering that asking this before I got here. So obviously, every every home in the city has gets a water bill. Does every home in the city have a garbage contract because that's billed to us directly? And if they don't, what's that percentage? And is it financially driven? Or is I am where what are they doing with their garbage?

So for the sticker users, they don't have a monthly bill with the garbage company because they're purchasing their stickers over the counter from one of the retailers. If they have recycling service, they do. That's offered free with the contract, so they do still have to set up an account with Flood Brothers to receive that recycling tote.

Do we have... Do we have any insight into how many people don't have service?

You mean what the disparity is between total residents and sticker users?

No, total number of water bills versus, do we have any information from Flood Brothers on the total number of McHenry City customers?

we we do i don't have that um i can pull it up i don't have that open right now um but like the total number of accounts that the flood brought that i would and again i apologize for not asking you before i'm not the girl who likes to put you on the spot number of city water accounts

versus number of Flood Brother accounts?

Well, that wouldn't be a direct comparison because we have residents in the city who have garbage service who are on either private wells or other public water systems, so that doesn't give you an accurate representation of one account to another, and the same for the sewer side of it.

And the reason I ask that is I live here in Cooney Heights. Garbage day is Thursday. It's duck, duck, goose in my neighborhood. So I'll have three or four homes with recycling and garbage totes out, and then homes that have nothing. And I always wonder, what do they do with their recycling? What do they do with their trash? And where is it going? Because I never see trash in their front yards.

And I wasn't aware there was anything for recycling. I just thought they dropped my tote off.

I thought they did for mine too.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever signed anything for recycling. They have to be notified of your address. Now, if you were there previously, they bought the cans from LRS. So they came and re-stickered them. So there wasn't an actual can swap out. We just left our cans out and they stickered them. But somehow you have to contact Flood Brothers or whoever the refuse company is to get a can delivered.

In other towns, people take their garbage to work. That's why they don't have cans out in other towns. I don't know about McHenry. They don't have an account.

I certainly have enough dumpsters in town. Yeah. If I called every time somebody did a dumpster drop, John would be sending police my way every day.

But, you know.

Again, how many garbage dump calls do you guys get?

If I guessed, I would say a couple dozen a year. But I do think that people utilize access to dumpsters that they have as well. Where they work has a dumpster that allows them to put a bag or two in there. People do that all the time, I believe. I think that's common.

I just... my mic back on. I think if we had to Andy's point, more opportunity to go to RFP and get more quotes from, I mean, we have six or seven prominent haulers in the area. Five of them said, we won't deal with you because of the leaf and the sticker program. if we get rid of the leaf in the sticker program and we focus on recycling, regular waste, yard waste, I think, and I'm guessing all seven of them would give us proposals. And when you have seven people giving you proposals, you should probably get the best price. And I don't believe that we have the best price from Flood Brothers right now based on other communities that I've researched because we included leaf pickup and sticker program. So I firmly sit here and believe that if we join the current year and we offer an opportunity to all of our haulers, we will get a better price and possibly better service. But we have to be real about what we're asking for.

Yeah, number one, we talk about somebody coming around, picking up leaves, and then you have a guy out there with a rake. Well, in a lot of cases, you don't have the guy out with a rake. Many a times that I have a little wider area in front of my house as the road curves, and if I don't get the chance as the leaves finally settle down to brush them closer to the curb, trying to keep them off the street, They don't get all the leaves and they will just leave them. On another note, we talk about the arm that picks up the bags and all that. Well, we've got a significant amount of bags that are being used out there. So why wouldn't a company take, they got the arm to pick up the bags. I mean, not the bags, but the totes, which takes time. Why couldn't they have another vehicle that follows afterwards and makes another round and just picks up all the bags? They have a guy in the truck, a guy jumps out, throws it in the back and jumps in and they keep going. So you still have the mechanical arm doing half of the work and the other half of the work with the bags could be done manually. I mean, it's creativity, but, you know, it can be done.

My research said that most companies are moving away from the manual effort of garbage for the liability, that people are injured, people are hurt jumping on and off the trucks. They're getting their legs severed by what's in the bags. I don't know if that's a Flood Brothers thing or not. That's just what I read in great detail, that most companies are moving away from manual disposal for liability purposes and human injury. I don't know if that's floods policy or not. The only other comment I wanted to make about this last year, we spent a whole lot of time talking about the leaves under the snow and under the ice and they were never picked up. And we heard from so many people that, Oh my God, the wreck of my grass, my grass is going to be trashed. What's the city going to do about it? I will tell you that every one of my leaves ended up in a waste can. I had zero leaves under snow. Cause my waste can rolled to the street and they were able to pick up my leaves on yard waste day. I had zero leaves in my yard.

You may have the autonomy to have the time to do that, but there are a lot of us that don't, and that becomes a problem. So what, what happens? Are we going to get phone calls that people are going to complain because, Hey, My next door neighbor has got tons and tons of leaves and they're still sitting there. And that's going to happen. If you don't make a good program that is doable for all residents to take, which we've had as far as picking it up. And you know what? If you can't get a company to do it, then maybe the city needs to be the leaders and take and create a program and the city takes care of them. You know, maybe there's a cost to it, but it's a service to the residents. And, you know, I've talked to so many residents about taxes and property taxes and everything else. Every time there's a new tax, okay, you're going to hear people complain. No matter what it is, people will complain about a new tax. However, there are so fewer complaints when people know what that tax goes for. When they know that there's a service they're getting for it, they don't have as much of a complaint. It's when we just take and we just raise the rates and that's where people complain. And if we had some kind of an additional tax on the property taxes or whatever to do the leaf pickup, I don't think you'd hear people complaining as much, especially if they're going to save in the garbage contracts. Because they're not going to have to pay for that. So I think that that is is something I really think the city really needs and I've been. I've been pushing that for several years with staff and they keep telling me how expensive it is, but I really think that that's the way it's gotta go. Because if we know that private companies aren't going to do it, well then, by golly, the city's gotta step up and the city's gotta do it. Somebody has to take care of our residents. Hold on that thing on.

Thanks. I was just writing something down. Okay. Maintaining the sticker program is the number one priority that I am hearing from residents. Small households do not generate enough trash for weekly pickup, and the bins and totes can be cost prohibitive for many residents. We don't know what an extended contract with Flood Brothers would look like, and I don't think the city should limit competition. I support an RFP and if Flood Brothers would like to submit a proposal, they can do so. I will say the feedback I've received from residents is about 10 negative for every one positive or neutral comment about Flood Brothers. In addition to leaf pickup issues, I've received complaints about skipping houses, throwing bins on the street, Multiple phone calls required for residents to receive their senior discount and excessive trash on the streets during pickup days. Again, my number one concern is, however, is maintaining the sticker program so household costs do not increase because we have a lot of residents that are already struggling financially.

Thank you. All right.

Just because the point of this is to come up with action, I just want to say I would support going out for RFPs as well, asking Flood Brothers what they might renegotiate in the future, and maybe using the leaf pickup and the stickers as an option so that we can have some actual numbers to make a decision with. I think, you know... Ideally, we need to have more information to actually make a final decision. So if we can go out for that RFP and add those as add-ons. And I also really think we should entertain the idea of what would it cost the city to do leaf pickup. If we can't burn it, You know, I mean, not everybody can even throw it in their car, you know, to bring it somewhere else. So, you know, we do need to have a solution for that. But, you know, again, without any actual numbers, you know, we're not able to really have an intelligent conversation. So I think we should entertain that idea as well. And we've got a year to make some final decisions.

Alderman Doherty? Yeah, I would be in favor of going out to bid and having those two as options. I don't necessarily want to see them go away, but I see the reality of it. It's a fixed cost business. They need to recoup their costs. That's what they're trying to do. And possibly if we have to eliminate the stickers in order to keep the leaf option viable, maybe that's the way to go. So I think I'd like to see some options.

Okay.

Thank you. Alderman Davis.

Yeah, I think there's too many things right now that are kind of up in the air and, you know, what if and scenarios. I think we need to really go out to RFP and understand what the cost would be and what kind of solutions everyone's offering. And if it means that, hey, the cost savings here and allows us to maybe invest into our own business. LEAF PROGRAM OR STICKER PROGRAM OR ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT WORK, THEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT THAT. BUT, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU. ALTERMAN COOK.

NEW SPEAKER I WANT TO SEE THE CITY HAVE THEIR OWN LEAF PROGRAM AND YARD WASTE. I MEAN, EVERYBODY WHO BRINGS IT TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THEIR Sticks and branches and everything else like that, they turn into mulch and everything else like that. So I would like to see the city have their own leaf program. Go strictly with the disposal companies. Say, here, pick up the garbage, pick up the recycling, give us a price. End of story. You know, I understand the seniors and everybody else will make that much garbage and all that. Flat rate. That's all I can come up with. Everybody's splitting hairs and everything else like that. I'm of the opinion that, I'm sorry, with all the waste, fraud, and abuse, I don't want to help anybody. I don't want to sound mean or anything else like that, but let's simplify it to where you don't have that much garbage. There's an equilibrium in there. There's a flat rate that everybody could agree with. I doubt if that will happen, but I would like to see the city have their own leaf program and waste disposal. And then the waste, the garbage, set it out to bed, just pick up the garbage and the recycling. Thank you. Alderman Miller.

So Flood Brothers does offer the three different capacity totes. which we currently already use inside our city and our contract. We have the 35-gallon, which handles three 13-gallon trash bags, the 65-gallon, which holds five 13-gallon trash bags, and the 95-gallon, which they say holds seven trash bags, but I know I put more than seven in there, so it fits more. So we already have with our current waste hauler the one size doesn't fit all, you have choices on what size tote you want to use. I will just remind people that I'm odd and unusual, and I appreciate that. I used to go up to the barn when we had drop your own leaf waste off, and I would watch what people would put in their cars. and rip their headliners out because they would put big trees in there and try to yank them out. And then they'd get up there and they couldn't pull them out by themselves. So they needed help. And then they forgot that waste was only from 8 in the morning to noon. And they got there at 12.02 and, oh, it's already in my car, so I'm just going to dump it up here at the park. And then Parks and Rec or Public Works had to go up the next day and clean the mess up because – everybody forgot that the program stopped at noon. Then I remember a rendition of that, that we had to control who was going in there because now we had landscapers and we had non-residents and we had people from God knows where bringing their yard waste to the McHenry dump because it was free and you just drove in and you had friendly guys there and you open up the pop of your car and they took all your stuff out. So then we had to issue the little white stickers and you had to prove that you were a resident. Um, It didn't work then and I don't think it's going to work now. I love you, but I have to speak in opposition of that thought that I think we provide a good service through our unlimited curbside yard waste. And we control that through your location. A landscaper is not going to bring his yard waste to my yard and stick it out there for pickup. I think a collection site has been and will continue to be problematic.

Yeah, whatever we decide in the long run, as far as for the next waste hall contract and everything else, one thing we got to keep in the back of our minds is the fact that we need a program that will work for all residents. What you don't want to see is you make it so difficult for some that can't possibly keep up with the whether it's leaves, yard waste, whatever, to where this stuff starts sitting around on properties and whatnot and cluttering up the city. We want to make sure that it's clean, neat, and it's easy for them to get rid of. And if it doesn't, then that's where the problems will begin. And then we wind up with more and more problems. So let's try to make it as easy as we possibly can for our residents.

and uh try to keep the costs down wherever possible all right so i think we have direction russ you're good yeah i've what i've got here is that every the majority is in favor of putting out an rfp for refuse services and we will construct it as proposed in option two where the leaf pickup and sticker program are add items so that we can get the largest possible result for bids, and then those will be brought back to City Council for consideration. Correct.

Thank you, Russ. All right. At this time, I'd like to have a motion to adjourn this special meeting. Alderman Cook? Make a motion to adjourn. Second. Alderman Doherty. I'll second the motion. Thank you. Clerk, please call the roll.

Alderman Cook.

Yes.

Alderman Doherty. Yes. Alderman Beeney. Yes. Alderman Glab. Yes. Alderman Bassey. Yes. Alderman Davis. Yes. Alderman Miller.

All right. We'll start the regular city council meeting at 7 o'clock.