Common Council - Regular Meeting

Thank you. Thank you. Hi there.

Hey, Josh.

Thank you.

Good evening and welcome to the Monday, June 8th, 2026 meeting of the Martinsville Common Council. The meeting is hereby called to order. This time I would like to invite Lisa Plait from the Fusion Harvest Church to come forward for this night's prayer. So would you please stand and remain standing for the pledge.

I'm going to be praying out of Jeremiah. where he admonishes us to pray for peace in our city. Lord, we do come before you tonight. God, we pray for the peace in our city. Silence every voice of violence, fear, and division. Let your spirit dwell in our neighborhoods and replace anxiety with calm. Bring harmony among families, leaders, and communities. May righteousness take root in every street, producing peace that endures. Protect our hearts from hatred and fill our city with unity, compassion, and love that reflects your kingdom. Heavenly Father, bless our city leaders with wisdom and humility. Guide every decision they make for the good of the people. Remove selfish motives and fill them with compassion and courage. Let justice and integrity prevail in every office. Surround them with godly counsel and protect them from corruption. May their leadership honor you and bring peace and progress to our city. Lord, place a hedge of protection around our city. Guard every home, school and workplace from harm. Let your angels patrol our streets and bring safety to every neighborhood. Protect our police officers, children and travelers from danger. Remove violence, accidents and fear from our midst. We trust you as our refuge and shield. May your peace and safety cover our city always. Lord, bless the economy of our city. Provide opportunities for honest work and financial stability for every family. Give wisdom to business leaders and integrity to employers. Protect workers from exploitation and inspire generosity among the wealthy. Let prosperity flow through righteousness and fairness. Thank you for being the source of every blessing and provision. Establish our city on justice, mercy, and truth. Righteous Father, let justice flow like a river through our city. Uproot corruption and expose deceit wherever it hides. Strengthen judges, lawmakers, and leaders to walk in truth and fairness. Defend the poor and protect the innocent. Let righteousness guide every decision made in our courts and offices. Thank you for being the God of justice who never fails. Establish peace through your truth and mercy. Creator, God bless our city's environment. Cleanse the air, water, and land from pollution. Give wisdom to leaders and citizens to care for the earth responsibly. Inspire us to protect nature and use resources wisely. Let our city reflect the beauty of your creation. Thank you for entrusting us with this world. Help us to honor you through stewardship and gratitude. Lord, we lift our city's first responders before you. Protect them as they serve you and risk their lives for others. Give them courage, strength, and clear judgment in every situation. Surround them with your angels and grant them peace at home and on duty. Let compassion guide their hearts and wisdom lead their actions. Thank you for their service and sacrifice. Keep them safe always, Lord. And finally, Lord, we dedicate our city Martinsville to you. Dwell among us and let your glory fill every home, office, and street. Bring peace where there's unrest and light where darkness lingers. Revive hearts, heal wounds, and strengthen faith. Let your spirit transform lives and make this city a beacon of your love. Thank you for being our protector, redeemer, and king. Lord God Almighty, rule over us forever. We pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor, will you please call the roll?

John Badger? Present. Susie Lipps?

Present.

Ben Mahan? Present. Josh Barron? Present. Ann Miller? Present. Sorry, I caught you in the drink. Jonathan Collier? Present. Phil Dickerson, second. Present. Mayor, we have a quorum.

Thank you. Prior to tonight's meeting, you each receive the minutes from the Tuesday, May 26th meeting for review. Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes?

Jonathan Collier makes a motion to approve the consideration of the minutes.

Second.

Motion made and seconded to approve the minutes as presented this evening. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. You also sent the claims prior to tonight to review. Are there any additions or questions on the claims? I'll make the motion to approve the claims as presented. Second. There's been a motion made and seconded to approve the claims as presented. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Staff updates. Chief Manley.

Good evening, council. I wanted to address a system that we utilize at our agency and most agencies around the country utilize, the flock system. We get a lot of questions, concerns, big brother concerns, it's a camera, it's intruding in our lives. So I just wanted to put your minds at ease and the community's mind at ease on some of the system or how that system works. FLOC is a database, it's a automatic license plate reader. It's a database that reads your plate as the vehicle drives by and it will flag our officers for minor traffic infractions, such as air traffic issues, such as expired plates. If the registered owner of the vehicle has a suspended license or an eventual traffic violator, if the registered owner has a warrant, it will flag our officers. It makes us aware of vehicles that are coming through with minor issues or criminal issues such as a warrant. It also flags our officers for amber alerts, silver alerts, endangered people. So with that being said, those alerts go to our officers' computers constantly. If someone drives past a flawed camera, it will read the plate. If there's an issue with the plate, it will send that information to our officer. There's an audible tone. And it makes our officers aware if we're in the area, there's an issue with the vehicle. It could be that the vehicle is flagged and the registered owner is not operating the vehicle. There's no issue. We let that driver continue on their way. On top of that, there's also an investigative tool with FLOG. So if, I've got a few examples, but if a theft occurred and we have a vehicle description, we can put in filters on the search system. Say we're looking for a black pickup truck, it's all we know, black pickup truck. It'll filter what the camera reads as black pickup trucks. Then we could go through, and we have a partial plate, and that's ABC. Well, we can filter partial plate ABC and try to lock down if the suspect vehicle in question is tied to that flock camera and get a direction if they pass the camera at this intersection, they pass the camera at this intersection, and then it continues out of town. We can check the database out of town as well. So on top of the flock camera hits that someone drives by and flags for a registered owner offense, we have the tool to use that investigative tool as well. So our officers have used the investigative tool just in the month of May 393 times. So it's a great asset. It beats knocking on doors and asking someone, hey, did you see a car in this area matching this description? It takes all that time away that our officers would use knocking on the doors or checking cameras at businesses to just checking the system. If a vehicle matching the description or has any of the filters that we put on it drove past one of those cameras, it would flag it, and we can use the search features to look into that. So it's not a big brother tool in the fact of they're looking out to catch any single person. It's to make us aware of what vehicles are on the road, if the registered owner has an issue, but it's also, what we use it for mostly is investigative feature. Unfortunately, we've had some shootings in the area, and it's assisted our agency in tracking down or confirming alibis, or tracking down suspect vehicles that were involved in those shootings. Another tool, as I mentioned the thefts earlier, Rural King had some lawn mowers stolen put in a partial description of the vehicle, was able to find the suspect vehicle involved in that theft case. Recently we had a, actually I've just taken care of this weekend, for several months we were working on narcotics investigation. Vehicle come into town, drop off narcotics, go back out of state. It's actually an out of state vehicle. We were able to, over several months, lock down when they're coming into town. It was almost like clockwork. and able to make an arrest on that this Saturday, closing that case out for someone out of state bringing drugs into our community. So it's a great tool for that. This morning as I was coming in to pull stats, one of our officers was looking for a vehicle involved in a theft ring at Dollar General, I believe it was, or one of the small convenience stores near town. And he was filtering the system to look for a vehicle. Within three or four minutes, he found the vehicle and also tracked that vehicle over a period of time across the state where they're getting other retail stores similar. So it's a great tool for our guides to use. It also has helped recover two missing children. The suspect was detained. Children were taken safely. And without the technology, we probably wouldn't even know they were coming through our town. So it helped us there. We've also had an incident where there was an endangered adult from Wisconsin, I believe, out of state. flag that there was an endangered adult possibly in that vehicle. Our guys tried to make a stop on it. It took off in a pursuit. We ended up having to use a pit maneuver to safely terminate that pursuit. Took the suspect into custody and rescued the endangered adult in that case. So I know it's scary. I know it feels like Big Brother. We would love to help answer questions if people have questions. But all in all, it's a great tool for our department. It helps us not only Notify drivers if there's an issue, a driving issue, but it also helps us on our everyday crimes that have already occurred. Lock down and try to find who's responsible for those crimes. So not a long presentation, just wanted to kind of brief the council and the community on how FLOC works and how valuable it is to our department. Any questions?

Thank you. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. First of all, thank you for all you do. Secondly, I've had some constituents reach out about the retention of the data of that. Can you explain kind of what happens with the data, the people that are not pulled over?

When you say data, are you talking about ? Sure. Yes. So all that does is it pulls information from NCIS. So it dispatches . And when he says we're getting information of the registered owner, That's just the register letter that they register in the state of Indiana. So what the state retains is the information that FLOC retains. They just use that information. As far as what information we retain, or are you talking about what FLOC retains?

Both. FLOC and the city.

Whatever block retains, we don't have any access to that. We don't see any of that stuff. Basically what we use, the tools that we use is exactly as she just explained. We haven't bought a trail for anything. So for instance, if something... somebody would have a concern, an officer would search something. We have it down to the very button that they press on that audit trail. And we can pull those any day, any hour, and as long as we have that system, we can pull that information. I know I didn't point it to your question.

No, that's good. That was a concern I had when we first were talking about Flock. I didn't know a lot about it. And honestly, on the road, I never had it. I never used it. I've moved into administration from that point. Josh had used it, Deputy Chief Brown had used it. So I was like, can you be here for questions? Because you actually use the system. But one thing that I was worried about was, We're all human. We're all going to make mistakes. If someone were to do something inappropriate, could we find out? And you absolutely can. It's very easy to run on a trail and see why they searched it tied back to a case if there was an inappropriate use. It's very easy to find that. So that put my mind at ease as far as the human factor, taking that out, because it can obviously happen, but it can also be caught very quickly. Thank you.

I've got a question about how minor, is it going to start picking up minor CPAP violations?

No, it only ties it to the registered vehicle, so if your license plate is expired, to me that's a minor offense, you forgot, it's been a couple months, whatever, it's going to flag the camera that's an expired plate because it only reads the license plate and it gives that registered information back through NCIS. So it doesn't have a camera looking into your car looking forward if you want to sit down or anything like that. Good question.

Can I add to that as well? Sure. So the first two that officers use, if we were to have that, I'm not saying that there is an officer that's going to legalize it, but if there was For instance, I turn those features off for those minor infractions because the amount of people that drive through the city, it's gonna be going off every 10 seconds. So we usually, But we usually turn that setting off to a more major project. But prior to Morris, we had been listening to the homicide suspects for a few weeks. We actually had one of those come through the city as well. Not necessarily saying that it was in that car, but that's in the registered owner. So it's just license plates. It hasn't got to do with an actual photo of the car or what the person looks like inside the car or the color of the car. It's just the license plate. I think a lot of people at age two have known that they're European.

So when you want to look for a black pickup truck, it's reading the license plate and seeing everything that's registered to that plate.

So if the registration will say the VIN, the year they make the model, it also says the color of the vehicle is registered as a black vehicle, it would flag in that filter for a black vehicle. It could have been painted to be blue, but it would still flag as a black vehicle.

Chief, do we have access to the county cameras as well as them having access to ours, and are we able to access any other cities or counties?

Great question. We utilize, you can share information between agencies, so we share with the county. We have six cameras in the city, but we also share with theirs and several of the communities around us to have access to their databases the same as they have ours. In the example of the theft at the Dollar General across the state, we could see through all the cameras in the state where that vehicle had gone and tie it back to the Dollar General in that area. So good question, and yes, we do have access to that. Thank you.

Yeah, Chief, with the... The kids, the children that were recovered, was that in the city of Martinsville?

They were recovered in the city of Martinsville. They were from Indiana, but the northern part of Indiana. So it was reported at another agency, and our cameras flagged that vehicle as a suspect vehicle for the abduction. So that case is still ongoing, but we actually tied down to a suspect. So it's given us the information where before off of that surveillance footage available, we didn't have anything. So we were able to lock down. through people in the area, we saw a car with a trailer. This time of day, we searched in that scope of time and was able to lock down. It was this vehicle and then come up with a suspect.

Thank you. You're welcome.

Any other questions for the Chief? Thank you, Chief. Mr. Dunn, can you give us an update of where we're at on the transfer station? I know it's been down here for a couple of weeks.

Yeah, we have been down for almost two weeks. There are two hydraulic cylinders on our compactor. One pushes and one pulls. Unfortunately, the pusher... It's nine years old, and it just simply blew. We had to rebuild the cylinder. It's not something that they keep in stock, so it's taken some time. Our compactor was originally installed in May of 2001. The original motor we're still using is 25 years old. The compactor's good. It works. But every once in a while, you have things break. And unfortunately, that did break. They were there today. It should be up and running tomorrow. So we will be reopening if all the stars line up Wednesday. We're also currently looking at options to update and modernize our transfer station. We are going to relocate the scale. with a new scale and a new block building, but we're still studying it right now. We're working with Rumpke. They are currently our hauler, and there's no point in us reinventing the wheel. They're very, very good at what they do. They operate different sites, different scales. They use an unbelievable program that we're going to try to get our hands on and make it work with a new scale. So everything will be fully automated. It will be integrated into a new computer ticket system. And once that system is in place, we're going to go cashless. Any questions?

Thank you. I'm sorry, when do you foresee the new system being in place? Wednesday?

No, no. Oh, no. We're going to open up. Right now, we're just taking our own trash. It's been closed outside, you know. Unfortunate, but that's what we had to do. But we will be opening up Wednesday. So we'll be back and running.

And when we go cashless, did you say, is it going to start on Wednesday with the cashless?

No, no, no, no. We have to move our scale. It's in a poor location, a bad location. So we're going to move our scale, but we're going to get a new scale. So this is going to take some time. This is not going to happen overnight. But we're in the process of studying what is the scale we want to go with, the system. the computer system that we need, the program. So all this will be automated. You pull up, you weigh, you dump, you pull back on. It'll generate a ticket. It'll eliminate operator error, take the human equation out of it, and should make for a better operation.

Do you know time frame? Is that years away?

This fall. We'd like to be able to do it this fall.

So we're actively working on it right now. Thank you. Did you say the scales were going to be in a building? Pardon me? Did you say the scales were going to be in a building?

They will be, no, the scale in a new building. You know, we have a trailer right now. And if you've ever been in that trailer, it's a trip. So it certainly has outlived its usefulness. And we'd like to have, it'll be in the office for the transfer station, primarily for the operation, the operator of the scale. It'll be moved further back.

And I think one of the main reasons we're moving the scale is because we've encroached on the property to the north ever since it was put in. So it's time to move it onto our property.

A little minor detail.

Thank you, Mr. Dunn. In the new business tonight, we have the second reading and consideration of Ordinance 2026-1915, Amendment to Chapter 78, Vehicle Stopping, Standing, and Parking. Mr. Coffey?

This is the ordinance and we had a public hearing two weeks ago. We also had our first reading two weeks ago. We heard from Deputy Chief Brown concerning the history and why we've got this before you. It simply did not have an ordinance in our municipal code that would address parking in the wrong side of the street against the flow of traffic. And that's a violation that they see quite frequently within the city. So this would enable that to be added to our municipal code and it would be something that then if someone is parking on the wrong side of the street and against the flow of traffic, they can be cited under a city ordinance population. So that's what you have before you. I know Deputy Chief Brown's here tonight to address any concerns or questions you may have.

I make a motion to approve Ordinance 2026, 1915, Amendment to Chapter 78, Traffic and Vehicles.

I will second, but I got 1415. I'm sorry.

It is 1915.

It is 1915? Yes. I'll still second it then.

So there's been a motion made in the segment to approve Ordinance 2026-1915. The amendment to Chapter 78. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Thank you, council.

We also have- I'm sorry, on that, what were you just talking about?

Is it 1915?

Yes. What is the 1415? I think it's a typo. Okay. So we got it correct in the book. So right. Okay. I just want to make sure which one was correct.

Your information should say 1915. Okay. Any word that says you have a copy of your package should have said 1915 also.

It says 1415.

My bad. We'll make sure that what it's signed is 1915.

Thank you.

Yes. Thank you.

I apologize for that error. Thank you.

Next we have the second reading, consideration of ordinance 2026-1916, rezoning the property at 2009 Burton Lane. Again, Mr. Coffey.

Second reading you have tonight for rezoning ordinance. I know we have Mr. Britton in the audience tonight on behalf of the applicant. This came before the Planning Commission at their May meeting. They recommended City Council rezone the property from business to R2. And any questions you may have, Mr. Britton's here to address.

I make a motion that we approve Ordinance 2026-1916, rezoning of the property 2009 Burton Lane.

John, I call your seconds.

It's been a motion made and seconded to approve Ordinance 2026-1916, rezoning of the property 2009 Burton Lane. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion passes. Thank you, council. Next on the agenda, we have a second reading in consideration of ordinance 2026-1917, rezoning of property, and it's the southeast corner of Ohio and South Streets.

Again, two weeks ago we heard the first reading of this ordinance. Again, tonight Mr. Buchheit with us representing the applicant. I know there was a question last time concerning I think the distance between the entrances to the property and the intersection Ohio and South Street. So I know Mr. Buckeye has done some preliminary measurements and work on that and can address that for you this evening. Probably any other questions you may have.

Good evening again. For the record, my name is Kevin Buckeye. I'm a land planner with the law firm Krieg DeWalt in their Carmel, Indiana office. And once more, I have show and tell for you to help explain what's going on here. Very good question about the distances between the intersection of the street and the center lines, if you will, for the two drives that are being proposed. Let me hand this out.

I apologize.

So this is the conceptual design for the SAFE plan. It will be formalized and finalized as we get further into the review and approval process for the new credit union building. South Street is on the north side of this drawing here on the top of the drawing. Ohio Street is on the left side. We've got an approximate distance of about 225 feet from the intersection of the streets to the center line of the south street access on the north side of the property. The other bit of information that's important, well, there are several bits. As is known, it's a four-way stop. It has a red flashing signal there. The traffic on Ohio Street is posted at 20 miles per hour, on South Street at 30 miles per hour. So everybody coming into this intersection is slowing down necessarily. Along the north side of this property, part of the construction, the reconstruction that was done for these two streets is a right turn lane from the intersection all the way across the north side of this property for the benefit of four bare feet. So if anybody's coming from the east, I'm sorry, from the west and wanting to access that north access point, they'll have the right turn lane to decel into the site. And then if they're intending to use the drive-through, they would have to circumscribe the entire building, the entire site to get into the queue for the for the drive-throughs there on the east side of the property. From Ohio Street, on Ohio Street, from the intersection to that drive lane, it's about 175 feet, and I wouldn't anticipate the same concern that was expressed last time about the South Street access point. To give a little bit of perspective, the 225 feet, let's slop off about three feet to get away from the intersection. That 160 feet would accommodate about eight cars. That would be eight cars in queue just to turn into the site. I don't know that we'll ever see that. I don't know that any business would. Once they get into the site, there's probably enough queue space for the drive-throughs from that access point to accommodate another dozen or more cars on site. unless the credit union is offering a really good special. I'm not sure that we're going to see that kind of traffic at the same time on this property. So if you have any questions, I'll try to answer them. But this will all be ironed out in the next phase of the development review process that will coincide with the city standards reviewed by your staff, and we'll do the good work to bring to them what they need to go under some kind of approval.

So my question is on the north side of the property on South Street on the entrance and exit there. Yes. My concern is about that crossing going across two eastbound lanes if you want to go westbound. Is that correct? Still? That was my concern.

Okay, yeah. If you're traveling westbound and wanting to make a left turn into the site, you would have to cross the through lane of traffic, and then the second lane is actually a right turn lane. It'll function for this site, but it's for bare feet. So there wouldn't be through traffic, shouldn't be through traffic on that right turn only lane.

I just have that concern. It's a turn lane for that property and for bare feet. So my concern is when a vehicle is traveling eastbound and they turn on the turn signal to turn into a lot, but they're going to go for bare feet, those people wanting to go across are going to think they're turning into your lot. And they're going to pull out in front of the vehicle, causing a T-bone. That's my concern there. I just don't like that setup there. Now I fully understand what you're concerned with. Yes. So is there a way of making that exit on eastbound only? You know, just like at our McDonald's, you've got the one exit, and you can only turn. They've got the curve so that you can only go to the north and not to the south. because that's my concern is they're going to pull up and say oh they're turning here okay i'm going to pull out and wham we got the accent because they're going to turn in for bare feet and not your place and then you've got that that's my biggest concern i i appreciate knowing that we will take that forward and make sure that that is part of the discussion and then figure out how to address that to alleviate that concern we just have a bad situation down there with our walgreens the way it's set up and people get in there they've got three lanes of traffic to When they want to pull out or get in and it's just not set up.

We'll make sure that we take a look at that site too and see how it functions or doesn't.

Okay.

Okay. The other one to your south, that's good. That's back and I think that'll handle that and you've got that more. Now you only have two lanes to deal with. You're going to turn right and turn left. It's just that one site is my concern. I appreciate that.

I do have one question pertaining to that South Ohio Street entrance there. So that property line, whenever you drive by it, you'll see a bunch of trees over there. Is that on the credit union line or is that on the residential side on that? Because if you open that up, I could see a potential hazard with all those trees being there. Then you'd have no visibility to see. Give me just a second here to see if I can look at it real quick.

I thought it was on your side, that's what I'm... Okay. Okay. So two homes will be taken, is that right? One home. The parcel on the north side of this collection is vacant currently.

And then the house next to it on the south side is the only house that will be part of this project.

Councilman Decker, do you want to table this until the correction is made?

I'm going to refer that to a counselor. Is that something we need to wait for that to be put in? No.

Your job tonight is to consider whether or not the zoning classification should be changed from its current zoning to what is suggested and what the Planning Commission suggested, which would be it's currently zoned I-2 and R-2, and it's requested that it be rezoned to B-2, both parts. That's the only consideration that you have before you to make this evening. As far as the traffic flow, the concerns about traffic lanes, those sorts of things, that's all done in a later stage through the Planning Commission. Final, final plot approval and also for the City Administration through the planning zoning.

Which then that will come back to us again for approval. That will not come back for you again. So what is the, and I'm not saying they're not going to do it, but I just want this for future reference. What is the council, if we approve this, what is our recourse if it goes through that and that is not addressed?

Well, again, you guys are, the only program you have under the law is to decide zoning and whether or not it should be zoned, a certain classification or not. So, you know, for the use of the property, that's really what you have to decide. If you're comfortable with rezoning to the B2, which is what they're asking, then that is, you know, that's what your decision is. You voice concerns about the traffic flow, whether or not it's going to go across a couple lanes and everything. The city certainly needs to look at along with the applicant. Sounds like the applicant's going to address that internally before they even bring their plan back to the city. I think that's something that our city building department, also our planning department can look at. and decide whether or not they think the plan that the developer brings back is something they can live with or not. They believe it's a concern. They'll tell them, no, we don't think we can work with that. We need you to come back with a different plan that addresses these concerns about the flow of traffic and crossing multiple lanes of traffic.

But the council does have the opportunity to come to the plan commission when this is being heard also.

charlotte and collier will make a motion to approve the second reading consideration of ordinance 2026-1917 the rezoning property of southeast corner of ohio and south streets second it's been a motion made and seconded to approve the ordinance 2026-1917 rezoning the property of the southeast corner

Ohio and South Streets all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed no. No. Motion carries.

Thank you. And we will take your concerns forward. I appreciate it.

And again the meeting agenda for the council and the council you do have an appointment on the Planning Commission so it would be Councilwoman Miller's responsibility to make sure that's heard. We're counting on you. Okay. Any comments from the council this evening?

I just want to say how nice the park looks. I've been out there a few times so far this summer, and except for a few down logs on the path, the park looks very, very nice. It really does. It looks like a lot of people are really enjoying it. Okay.

I would uh like for our traffic division to please take a look before school starts up. What my name is just referring on cream here about the 20 on Ohio Street. If we just take a look at our school zone areas, a post and row should be at 30 miles per hour. We've got it set up so it's 20 miles per hour during school hours, okay, during the school season. Then you got to your other part of West End, it says 20 regardless. So then why do you need a sign that says 20 miles per hour during school? yet this site isn't. It's gotta be one, most typically, we've always had it as 30, and then when you approach that block within, it says 20 miles during school hours. But I've just noticed in a couple of our locations, it's got that, and so it doesn't make sense to have those, because I believe as soon as you turn on Morton Avenue on the Post Road, right there by Fast Track, except there's the first one, 20 miles per hour, 20 miles per hour. But when you're coming the other way, it's telling you, 20 miles per hour during school hours. Especially if you're going away from school, why would it be 20? Unless we're going to have 20 the whole way, then you'd remove the school signs. But if you could just check before school year starts back up and check all those areas for me, please.

Any comments from the public this evening? If not, just a reminder that the 2027 Budget Workshop will be this Saturday, June 13th, 8 o'clock here in the Council Chambers. Again, this workshop is open to the public, and no public comment will be taken. The next regular meeting of the Common Council will be on Monday, June 22nd, 7 o'clock here in the Council Chambers. We are adjourned.

Lucy I call her Lucy

She's all over the place. You never know. You too, Randy.

How you doing?