Bza Meeting - Regular Meeting

for the uh Mastonia Planning Commission meeting for April 21st, 2025. Uh can we get a roll call? Mr. Westbrooks here. Mr. Roberts here. Mr. Cox here. Mr. Wallenhurst here. Miss Musky here. All right. Then we have approval of the March 17th public hearing minutes which I believe is pretty much nothing but anybody have any comments on that. Does someone want to make a motion? They're approved as submitted. I'll second it. All right. All in favor? I. All right. And then the regular planning commission meeting minutes from the same date. Same thing. I move that they be approved as submitted. I'll second it. All right. All in favor? I I. All right. So, first agenda item is uh uh 9764 Valley View Road. Is there someone representing that? No. Do you know if there we were expecting anyone to come to this? Yeah, I assume. Yeah, I assume they should we come back to that. I mean, I thing if everything's still good. Let's uh maybe uh I'll I make a motion to adjust the uh agenda to move uh number one to uh later in the agenda to to the I guess move everything else up. Move this to make number three to give someone an opportunity. If they're not here, we can decide if we want to address it. So, make that motion. Is there a second? I'll second. All in favor? I. Okay. So then we'll move on to the next one. Um, specialty lubricants 8300 Corporate Park Drive. Someone here for that. All right, come on up. Have a seat. How you doing? Good. How are you?

Good. So, we've got updated information from you guys and additional comments. I don't know if there's anything you want to say or if you just want to jump into the comments. All right. Yeah. Mr. France, would you like to go over your throw that at you fast? Sure. Let me just uh take your time my plan here. Unlike my fancy colleague here to my left, I don't I have good oldfashioned paper. Okay. Um so I lost my cover sheet for this. And this is are we looking at um we're not looking at people. We're looking at special. Yeah. Okay. Do you have paper? Do you have here? Okay. Yeah. Normally a little more organized. Okay. All right. Uh so I think one of the issues my report is dated April 5th. Uh and this is um to construct a just under 50,000 square foot building to the existing um 675 roughly on the property located at 8300 Corporate Park Drive. Uh the final uh plan submission now depicts the outdoor uh screen area, the outdoor

storage area being screened um with a board on board fence. Previously it was shown as uh it was shown as um chain link with privacy slats. We had we had a conversation with the applicant at the meeting about that and appreciate that they switched that over to a board on board. So no no uh no concern there. Um with regard to uh parking, um we know that uh there's not enough parking based on the code, but um they did uh seek and were approved a variance for parking at the March 19th DCA meeting. With regard to uh landscaping, uh sheet L1 documents a three- foot tall mound that extends the entire rear of the proposed addition, approximately half of the existing building. Um I previously stated that uh additional landscape materials and mounting should be added to the west side of the building. Um, so that's basically and I kind of drew it in with a little purple area, purple arrow, but just all I think there was just one celebration maple in that area. Just thought that that could be beefed up a little bit with some landscaping. Fairly inexpensive to do. And then uh again, the outdoor storage, it is shown on my item number three as being screened by board on board fence. Just want to point out that that's 12 feet tall. And so that just need confirmation from the pling commission that's acceptable. Sheet E900 uh provides um the photometrics for the site. Uh felt um at this point there's no um action necessary that the lighting levels are acceptable and there's no bleed at the property line. So appreciate that. That's good. And then the storm water

drainage. Uh there's a letter from Riverstone dated January 17, 2025 that describes the basin. Um and that would need to be confirmed by the city engineer. And then building architecture uh sheet SK2 provides revised details regarding the existing proposed architecture. revised architecture is based on the discussion we had here at the the planning commission meeting. Uh that we had um conversation about utilizing the 4x4 metal louvers um instead of windows and to kind of add some symmetry to the existing building. The applicant had uh has made that change. Um and so if the if that's acceptable along with any final comments from the um city's design reviewer, I think that um piece can be approved. And then finally, just need a signature block on the final plan, the cover sheet for the planning commission chair signature. Other than that, we'd recommend approval uh sub those few minor items. All right. Thank you. Commissioner, do you guys have any questions? I I have one. Okay. Uh Ryan, what's the is 12 ft normal or too high or too low? What's normal? Are you considered possibly too high? We're supposed to comment on it. I don't know what we're supposed I didn't look at the rules. Yeah, there's I don't there's nothing specific about the overall height in industrial. I mean, typically you see a max set of 10 feet in industrial districts, but we don't have one. So I just felt that you should be aware of that and um wouldn't 10 feet do it though and 10 ft screen it I don't that would have to yeah 10 well wouldn't it be a little cheaper for you to put 10 we think it's better looking so I had a

question about that too I'm not clear where that screening is going to be is that part of the building no it's not it's actually it's out here Oh, but okay. Yeah. Do you have any details of the fencing like Pam had asked for? No, but I'm not concerned about 10 foot versus 12 ft. It's so far away from the street. Yeah, I'd be fine with it if you guys really feel like you needed a 12t fence. You're obviously trying to conceal stuff so it's not seen. And if it was right up by the road, maybe that'd be a bigger deal. Uh I'm sorry, Mr. Do you have any do you have any comments? Uh not really. The plan uh for this evening here is very similar to the previous plan that was submitted to the planning commission two or three months ago. So my comments from before hold. Uh we would need uh proof that there are no wetlands uh here on the site. If there are, what would we need to see the wetland permit to disturb those? Uh, as Ryan indicated, we would need as part of the future administrative uh review and permitting process, we would need the uh detailed review of the storm water management calculations and and of course the entire uh set of construction plans as well. And uh the last comment I had on here from a few months ago uh indicated that the uh parking lot does need concrete curve around the perimeter. The drawings don't actually say one way or another. Neo, you have anything? No, we're good. So 10 ft high fence. Is that what we're looking at? I think unless you feel strongly about 12, unless you have a need for the 12. No. Okay. Okay. think,

you know, it's not up by the road, but again, it's also not right up against the building. If it was up right up against the building, 12 on a 22 foot, I think, but if we're out in the park and maybe the 10 would be a little more. Um, Scott, do you know if there's anything in in Pam's memo? Pam's memo. It was asked to be located on the plans. Do you Yeah, we don't have that yet. still on design of that be on the construction drawings. Okay. Uh what about So she also called for the uh details of the fence and then the gates and materials used for that for the for the enclosure. So do you not have those either? I don't have those. Did you get Pam's memo? Um I don't recover. So I guess like give you mine. Okay. Yeah. And you guys do not have a dumpster. Correct. Correct. What color will the fence be? Are you staining it? Painting it? Stain it. Stain it. Okay. So, you got the parking variance. uh be you're willing to add some landscaping, some additional landscaping. 10-ft high fence is good. I think lighting was good. Storm water will be go through Miss Gilotty eventually. Um I think yeah details like the the the HVAC and stuff like that systems. I think when you got a lot of work roof I think we you might even have talked about the size of roof's so massive that it could be somewhere you'd have to be in a helicopter to see it

probably this thing as long as it's yeah not visible it won't be on the edge okay good that's probably the key is there any other items all right does anybody You want to take a stab or you don't need to? I'll go ahead and take a stab if you want me to. Go ahead. I'll recommend that we approve the application submitted with the comments by Mr. fans, any of the outstanding items being addressed in the final submission. That the outdoor storage fence be reduced from 12T to 10T and final details and drawings be submitted to Pam for final review for the enclosure along with just a location plan showing where the rooftop units will be. and Mr. Gelott's notation also that there is a plan provided showing if there are any wetlands or at least at a minimum a letter. Yeah. And this can all be done administratively between um Pam and Mr. France along with Nino and his staff. Okay, I'll second that. Turned off the I'll second that. Uh is

there any more discussion? Mr. trans did I just you something I said I just wanted to clarify that in your motion I think I heard you say that it would the um screening fence for the out of storage would be stained in a color to match the building yes and then um that the rooftop unit locations both the location and and then screen methods if necessary are provided on those re yes Pam will need to review that final before final approval can be given got all that, Susan? I think so. Okay. The video is for um All right. Any more discussion? All in favor? All right. So, just work with the last little items and glad to have you there. Thank you. Thank you. So, we go to Peak next. Yeah. Uh, next up is uh Peak Nano. I assume that's what you're for. Here for Yes, sir. All right. Come on up. We should call Joe Migley Arena. He's right next door. That's where he lives. Should we He knows about the meeting. He knows about the meeting. How do you know it is? Can we do it without him? It's a publicly advertised meeting. I wouldn't worry about it, Mr. All right. I am I am Trevor, the guy on the application. All right. Welcome, Trevor. And uh yeah, I was here last month. Uh I promised you a sample board. Wow. Nice.

And uh if you flip it over, the actual materials are uh on the back or the listing of the materials. So let those send it over to the guy with the letters after his name. Looks like the drawings. So I guess Yeah. What what what else uh or what's changed or um Well, um building wise, not much. Um um we did address the comments in the first go round for civil uh Matt Weber is my civil engineer. Um and u you guys had the renderings. Yeah. And uh the landscaping comments I picked up and what I ended up doing with the uh landscaping and the site photometrics. I did make it readable. Make the numbers a little bit larger so you don't have to zoom in on the u on the PDF all the way along. Um I did extend uh the landscaping down and modified the counts in the schedule. So that was asked for for screening purposes. Um and I added uh some sighteline studies. Now the sighteline studies and I did have several conversations with Pam about uh RTU screening for the roof. And the thing about uh Peak Nano and their process is they are uh mechanical equipment intensive. And we were uh putting a lot of units on the roof. And now we had a meeting last week to save on the cost of steel or the

depth of the steel or the girth of the steel for the roof to hold the rooftop units. He agreed that he could put a lot of them on the floor space inside because um this is 240,000 square feet and where they're coming from was more like 30,000 ft or 40,000 ft. So they're getting some contracts in but they have the floor space to accommodate. We had a me a mechanical equipment mezzanine on the inside that's out. So we're using floor space. He's in the process of kind of value engineering because we redid the budget and the numbers, you know, after we pick him up off the floor. Oh, yeah. Kind of had to re-evaluate some things and uh one of the things to re-evaluate and I know that I can't use cost as as an an issue to ask for uh a deviation here. uh until it becomes that issue. Um and I did the sighteline studies after I had talked to Pam and I went and I drove past the site and down Valley View and I did my um distance studies and the reality of of actually seeing the rooftop units are slim. I'm not saying it's impossible or they're not going to happen. And and Nino's laughing at me because he he knew this was coming, right? He gave me he gave me a heads up about Pam and she she still complains about the NEC unit. Every time she goes by 4080, she sees those she you can see them. I know, right? But here the average distance, the face of this wall, the average distance is about 700 ft from Valley View. And I brought my laptop so that we can bring up uh Google Earth if needed because there's some really good

tools. I don't know if anybody knows how to use it. Um and I can show you um some views. I can pan down in 3D view. I actually built uh the model and dropped it into Google Earth so we can get some some things if you'd like to see those. But um upon entry this uh line of sight one loss one this sheet here I dropped in four cars five cars and the first one is at 660 ft away and I picked a point on the roof. Now I understand you're not going to look at at one line one plane and you'll have a range but I had to give a graphic of somehow. So from point A to point B was 660 ft. That's two football fields. That's two football fields. And we're looking at a rooftop unit screening that that is what I talked with Pam was the length of this building for the number of screens and around the corner which ended up being like 400 lineal feet. Okay. It was $130,000 ad to the project after we designed it and planned it out. And I have the details in CAD on the computer if you'd also like to see those. But but you don't need that anymore. Correct. Well, that's what I'm saying. After I did my study, you know, it this car at this point to this point on the roof, you know, to the face of the wall is 660, but there's trees there, right? So I don't and and it shows in the in the in the site section trees are blocking the view. Do you own the trees though or are they on the residential lot? They are on they will be on the peak mano lot. So I guess I guess what I'm saying is the closer you get the angle makes it harder to see. Mhm. And I

did I did agree with Pam that we can we can push the HVC units back. This this wall here is here in the corner is office. Those will be smaller units. And then back this way is warehouse. So there's not going to be a lot of rooftop units heating and cooling the warehouse. Um especially heating because they have furnaces in there. They're going to use that. I'm curious. Do you want to leave them on the roof or are you being forced to put them somewhere else and you prefer to leave them on the roof despite what Pam says? Is that what you're saying? I I guess what I'm getting at is they're value engineering them to take them off the roof, put them inside on the floor. Is that better for you or worse for you? It's economically better for the client. For us as the builder, you know, it's easier. Yes. What are you asking us to do to overrule Pam on this issue? Yes, sir. Well, now her issue is that you want you want it on the roof and screened, but you're willing to take some of them down and put them into the They will take some of the big ones down and and that'd be that'd be okay. But she wants them all up there and screened. Is that what she wants? She wants She wants it all screened now. So screening, there's a couple options. I can do pocket screening around individual units and that would probably add up to more linear footage of screening than just a straight wall and screening it all and the straight wall would look better. But when I started digging into it, I was like, you know, the only time I'm going to see the stuff on the roof is if I'm at the top of valley view looking through the treetops down on the building. And that's You prefer nose screening. I prefer no screen because it's so far away from Valley. Well, it it seems pointless. The closer you get, the harder it is because I can I can pull the units back away from the edge because structurally we want those rooftop units near a column

line, right? Not midspan. It's going to vibrate the roof and and work things loose. We want them near column lines. And that first column is I probably I was a little confused on what you wanted. Yeah, I was I was building up to the real ask there, but you gave me so. How tall or how how high off the roof line would the biggest unit be that you would have? So, small SUV, no, I'm sorry, big SUV. Um, so 6' 7 foot tall. Um, but if it's if it's back away from the edge, you know, sure you can see it. You can see it from a distance because of the angle, but as you get closer here, the trees are still in the way, but once I get past the trees, I'm at an angle where where my I can't see over the the edge of the building. Yeah. Um, you don't get to choose the color these units are manufactured versus the color of the roof. I've I've been in scenarios where we have been able to paint the rooftop unit, but does that work? But I've also been in a scenario where like don't paint it, you'll avoid the warranty. Yeah, it it's I figure because I mean I understand the trees things too, but then all of a sudden two years from now, you guys decide to cut those trees down or something or fall and winter or they get a disease or whatever, but even then that's 600 ft. [Music] Um I don't disagree that I think there's certainly the rules we have to follow. I don't disagree with the distance and I don't I I agree with his stance on the fact that like the minute you start screening each individual unit that's going to get costly and I don't even know if I like the way that look too. It just looks like you're going to see a bunch of boxes up there. what you're going to see. My my thought without seeing any of this just initially is that

maybe just where those units are closer, you just screen two sides or maybe just only one side. I don't I mean if you can't see like I guess I'll use this as an example. If you can't see this side and it's more just these right here and you just put something and I'm convinced at that point you're not going to see them. No, you're not going to see them. this distance here, which is what what I'm thinking about is the residents that live here and then the traffic on this road. Correct. Um it is you have to kind of be looking for it to see it, but and then are we being consistent with other things we've approved or disapproved? So yeah, what you know at at at some point in time, you know, there's there's pretty cool. You know, how far away do you want to screen things because the angle? So, here I have a model of uh what we're proposing. And if I can get it to uh There we go. It's probably part of the video, is it? No, it's not. Yeah. Yeah. It's trying to look for uh But here on the top of this is the back side. And if I spin around, I don't think it's a concern. I don't think I'm about the backside person. Yeah. So, so from leaving the neighborhood, and I actually have a picture of this from my dashboard, um, you know, I have to zoom in. Is that the picture you included in here? Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah. Line of sight on LOS2. I did include that picture. Now, if I'm over here coming down valley view, I'm a little bit slightly higher than if I'm sitting in an SUV. Yes, I'm higher. And

you can see units whether that six foot screen wall is there or not because I can see the back corner. Yeah, but that's not street level. That's above the treetops. That's high. Right. Right. And you have to connect disconnecting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I don't I don't I'm going to ask a question you may not be able to answer, but that this picture here where you see this whatever that is a salt dome or whatever they have there, do you know about how high that sits in relation to the building you're proposing? Um, I I I don't I guessed um because I couldn't see I couldn't see treetops beyond it. So I guessed it to be about as tall as as you know a typical tree that's of you know 14 to two foot round trunk at chest high. Um and that's you know it's purely a guess for me as well. Do you have an idea about where these units are going to I'm just asking because I'm trying to make sure we get a comfort level because what you provided I think is great. I think it's just kind of more I don't I personally don't feel like you need to screen all four sides of it because if you're only going to see one side Well, I was only I was only one side was 380 ft. That's how big this building is and that's the short side of this building. Yeah. So I building I I think initially I was going to ask for like hey can we can we come back and wait till these units are placed and then revisit the screening but then the detail of the screen walls are through the roof and anchored to the joist. Can you just anchor the Can you do them off of the I know they make screening units that go attached to the units. Can you do those instead if we were to agree to that? I guess some of those units will void don't want that you know. So, um, yes, they make them to

where, you know, there there's kickers and they lean back and then there's sandbags. Then we got to restructure our our steel. Then you're adding weight to it instead of volume. Um, so our first our first column line is is about 45 ft in. That's where we can have the units. But the the the big equipment is going to be here and here. Those are your two biggest ones. and then some supplementary equipment here. So, it's going to be some of those bigger units are going to be further back. And those are the ones that are about we'll just say the max 10 ft high is kind of what your estimate is or shorter. Oh, I wouldn't think they'd be 10. I I I would say six to eight. Eight max. Well, on a curve, yeah, on a curve, maybe eight eight max. Mhm. And units sit on that. I don't think you're going to see those from way back. Oh, no. I mean this I'm a I'm a I guess my my this this study here shows if you zoom in shows a man at that column grid. He's six. Yeah, I did see I actually zoomed in. Yeah. So he's and then that is a unit that I got offline and scaled the unit to be 6 and 12 7 ft. So I I I did put that there to scale. And those are your shorter units. That's what you're thinking is going to be along that column line. I um your taller ones are going to be the ones that are going to be closer to the six to this depiction are going to be more along that backside. What is So the the ones that you're planning on placing along this first column grid right here are going to be even shorter. Correct. Yeah, they'll be smaller for sure because that's all warehouse and we're not going to put a big one up front and duct cooling and and air conditioning to where it needs to be in the middle of the in the site. We'll

just we'll poke to the roof and have a Yeah. a diffuser, four-way diffuser without the duct work. Okay. Um Yeah. Andy, come on. Come here. Ketchup. Oh, I'm stuck by a tree. Okay. So, yeah. So, from Valley View Road, um I don't think you're going to see the units. I mean, you might you might see the tops slower of of some of the closer ones of the bigger closer ones. Um but it's no different than looking across the street and seeing them at the top of the uh tractor farming fleet. You know, they have they have the walls, but you can still see the tops of them back there. And for point of reference, I went ahead and checked, you know, this seat here in the middle of of this 282 is about 700 ft. Just to give a distance, so on that view, oops, sorry. This is related to what we're talking about, but I one of the questions I had was regarding the trees that you were proposing along that um driveway in and then also along Valley View. You know, of course, I was want to talk about this. Okay. So, I'm not a landscape architect, but I'm looking at the schedule size here. Some of these things say six foot, the others say 2.5 in. So, that's at planting. No, it's a caliber size. Yeah. So, yeah, that's why I just want to make sure that it's a caliber size when we're dealing in

inches and feet, really short trees. And that's like just because it's documented and we're going to vote on something. I want it on the record that these are not going to be two and a half. Yeah, it's a caliper at Ches. So, is it fair to say that that could be around a 6ft tall tree, maybe even taller? It'll be 10. Yeah. Well, the view move, but I think that really helps that view for sure. I did too a lot. Yeah. Um and we're in the midst of put lots of trees up. I I could be wrong, but I think you're going to be hardressed to see them. I do. I I Well, what are you saying? I can't hear you very well. I said I'm going to be hardressed to believe that you would act that you're going to see him. You may see pieces of them. So, I guess Let me ask Kevin or maybe Brian a question. Are we allowed to uh overrule Pam and say you don't need screening up there? Are we can we do that today? I question would be a yes or no. You know, can you we're allowed to do that? And uh uh you know, I'd be prone to do that. I I think we do that. I know it's a an idea and it's in other rules, but uh this particular one is so far back uh that uh I I'd be prone to do that if we allowed to overrule Pam on this one. In fact, showing you this in Google Earth was her idea because we had a teams meeting and I was showing her and she's like, "Hey, this is great. Make sure you bring this to the plan." Do you have could do you have like a plan like showing about where those units are going to be like a plan just to kind of give us an idea because I have I have another just kind of I guess just a thought you'd offered up potentially that if you had to go back so what I was going to say is it's like kind of if if they're visible and we have to have and

we have a problem we have to go back and have you screen them. How many are we talking? Like I mean because again I don't feel like you need to run I don't believe you're going to see it's more like the ones that are going to sit like right here at this corner that are are potentially going to be visible. So are we talking a couple there and this my thought is is to just say and I know there's an additional cost that but do some of your prep if you had to put them up. Um maybe you don't and great. I I felt comfortable uh talking with Pam and agreeing that hey our units will be no closer than 45 ft to the edge and then we agreed how about a sixoot screen 20 ft from the edge because it's not really loadbearing even for the office ones above that front quarter. Yeah, I I think uh you know the units will be central to the office. The office is is uh two stories and it's a 15,000 square footprint and it's in this corner right here. So that would probably put them closer than 40 feet, right? Um, yeah, but not not closer than 20 behind the screen. Oh, okay. All right. Not to mess with your design, but Well, I mean, you already do. This is this is raised up higher anyways. It it is. And so the thing about raising raising up pre-cast tilled up panels is that's already 40 46 almost. You know, when you when you take the foundation and that one being raised up more, it's it's closing in on 50 feet. Well, they're trucked in and a truck bed is 50 feet. I'm trying to think of a way just to make everybody feel comfortable with it cuz I again I don't um you know, we could put taller trees up by the rail and and I don't know what I'm not a green thumb. I don't know what uh and I have the land plan that she's a great couple. I'm just thinking I mean you did

mention um what I didn't mean to I wasn't an insult. I was Oh god. No. She's our tree person. Um you did mention that the deciduous trees, you know, correctly are not going to have a lot of, you know, density in the winter. I wonder if we could do or you could do evergreens or a couple at least space them in a little just something to bring that foreground just so it's you're not um um of course we want to make sure we're maintaining sight lines especially it's a hight traffic part of the site but um I think if you put them up away from there I don't think you would have that's not a bad idea for your time along along the railroad lines though or well kind of just intermix with where he's so where they are now on top of the mound um 23 correct but maybe these these are theirs that they're proposing so mix just tuck a couple in so that you kind of get that understory so those are yeah so those are Norway spruces that are grow fast okay um oh yeah I see I do see an evergreen on your section and they'll be taller than two and a half inches. I figured it was either an error or a caliper. I wanted to ask for the record. So, that's actually a difference. And that's that's at planting, right? Yes, that's that's a very typical nursery size, a caliber size, but um that's actually a really good idea. So, do you have an idea of where those units will set or not? Um, okay. So here's uh shows the grid line. Yes. Okay. So this bay here is 82 foot wide and there's a large very large 500 foot long

piece of equipment here. Um and it it ends, you know, about here and then this becomes warehouse. So they're going to be the the larger ones will probably be back in this area here. So, it's going to be 100, 200, you know, almost almost 250, 300 ft back from the edge plus whatever from the valley view road side. Yes. The the bigger ones. I'm not saying there won't be zero up here. I'm just saying that. No, no, I'm following it. You're you're good. So, it's my guess is it's going to mainly be that that corner where that office area is going to be potentially where we somebody may have some heart those are uh office units. So, how high are those approximately? Four feet. My guess is going to be um four feet maybe five foot on on a sitting on a curb. You said that guy that you had in that image was six foot tall is about what you scaled him at. Yeah. So you might see So it's going to be a foot shorter than what that is. Yeah. So if this is if this is 20 ft and you know say his belt is belt line is you know halfway that's three feet. four feet. So the first So the the first So the first two low lines are these two cars out here. Is that taken from this like this corner like your higher point? Cuz my guess is you're going to have some units like right in that area. Are that is this? No, that's that's all open atrium stairwell. Oh, okay. Yeah. So that whole that whole box if you square that off in the plan

is open to the stairwell. Okay. All right. So, your units are going to have to sit back further. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I was just wondering if that took cuz like your visual right there. Well, yeah, but I guess what I was getting at is is your visual. Can you zoom into that for just a second? Your visual really doesn't take into account the additional couple of feet you're going to have for this corner element, which is going to block more of the view. Correct. Or does that? It's kind of there. Well, that's your No, that's that's No, that does not take in account of that because this section is not drawn through that. So, you're this section is drawn through um Oh, it is right. It's drawn back further. Yeah. So, what I'm saying here is is this corner element. Yeah. Where I think you're going to have more visibility from is actually higher than So, that's not depicted in that little It's not. It's actually I guess what was what would you say it is like height distance from here to the top of that? I mean it's got to be at least another five. Is it raised or it is raised which is pretty much provides a screen. It does and that's kind of what I'm that's if we're smart. We tuck the stuff back in there somehow. Well, he said that this right here is an atrium. So they would actually be on Yeah. But be it aligned with that just farther back. Yeah. I kind of feel like you're So yeah. And and if if I may. Of course you may. Um the way the code reads screening is is viewed from the public road or the residential neighborhood which is further away. Mhm. And so it's really just from the road that we're worried about. Mhm. Truthfully, I think the addition of some evergreens and I don't I mean you may want to throw pin oaks in there. They get pretty darn tall, right? Yeah. have a nice big canopy to them up up near the the frontage where we were talking about. I don't think you're going to see you're not going to see them. I really don't either. I I feel I mean between the visuals and also just kind of thinking

through that I I really feel like you're you're not going to see them and especially the larger units are further back in their Yeah. the the equipment you could stipulate that as part of your approval that that final mechanical layout be reviewed administratively. Uh Trevor revised site section. Mr. President, how about if we have a conversation myself, you Pam, and you know, include you in there and we'll get this solved. I mean, it just Yeah. I I'm I I mean, I feel pretty comfortable what we're looking at right now that that you're not going to see them. I feel with the landscaping changes, the larger I mean, if the larger units were on that side, I think we'd be having a different conversation potentially. But I feel I feel pretty confident that that unit is going to be a foot plus shorter than what it is right now and it's potentially going to be blocked by that corner that's going to jump up a little bit. I I just I don't feel like you're going to Well, I I I think the unit um is set back far enough. Yeah. This size unit will be several bays in. Correct. Yes. Yeah. This is like a worst case scenario. that upper the raised parapit that you're talking about. It really only happens at the corner, but there's so much more building left or right of that. Yeah. So, that's why I didn't really want to account for that as being screening because it's such a small percentage of of what is in the view of the building. So, is so that truly is the top of your wall and then you have what like a is that like a foot or six inch parapit there? Yeah, this is this is um parapit because we don't uh there are some places in the elevation that dip down um in elevation two and those are for um overflow. Oh, I see that. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. So, but you don't have any on that one side that we're talking about really? No, there's none on that side. Yeah, this side is all straight. And it has to do with um if I had my way, I would have a center ridge roof and shed it in two directions, but it's it's too long to do that because of expansion joints and uh metal decking and and yeah, I'm good with with with doing some landscaping changes. What they're showing really is adequate. I mean, if we wanted to get picky, we could say maybe diversify the evergreen that you're showing there just in case some blight comes through and knocks out all the Norway spruces. Yeah, I still have something there. But, you know, and maybe kind of to your point, that corner is such a showpiece that I wonder, you know, the attention isn't going to be on the unit, it's going to be on that corner. So, I mean, is there anything to be said for just drawing your attention away from it? Yeah, I don't I really I'm fine with jumping on a call with with Pam and everybody. I think what I would recommend that for that call would just be to have the low like however many units you're going to have just show them going down that line, I guess, and and the height. And again, I I really feel um yes, I can show units. I just don't know how soon because the mechanical design is is still ongoing. It's not I think I mean I'm comfortable giving a conditional approval based on that. I don't again I feel so if you come back and we see those units I'm going to be very very surprised. Okay. And I think you would be too. I I would be. So um you've done your you've done your homework on this to to give us the comfort level. I mean had you not shown us those other things and we're kind of trying to generically talk to this I think it'd be a different

discussion. But you've done a lot of work to to prove the fact that you're chances are you are not going to see those. Yeah. So the the the conditional approval of coming back and and having the ad screening later could be challenging. And I'm not saying they'll do it. I'm just saying I'm saying because of the way we're designing the screening to puncture through the roof. Because tomorrow, if tonight goes well for me, tomorrow they're going to submit to building department for corn and shell. So, Peak Nano has ordered equipment from Germany that's showing up later this year. So, we got to have walls in the roof, a home for I think when I say conditional approval, I'm just saying like um that it would just be one like I I again, I don't want to speak for the rest of the commission. I don't have a problem with, you know, if everybody else agrees and we're good and you submit for building permit tomorrow and then we're going to just have a follow-up call like you, myself, Pam, and and and Nino quickly to show like where those units are. I mean, I'm assuming that's going to probably be in the next week or so or week, two two weeks maybe. Um, I I I did sit through a team's meeting with uh Dan Bower from K Company, who's a mechanical engineer. Um I think he owes um units and weights um next week. Um I don't know if he owes locations even if they're generic. I guess I'm I'm even thinking again. I mean I can get I can get him to commit hey nothing large beyond this column grid. I'm fine. I think I really am. I mean, again, I I I guess I just want to make sure that we we as a board are giving as much we have as much of a comfort level for anybody that comes back and questions it, I guess. And that's just what's wrong with final review conducted

administratively like suggest what we're talking about right now. Well, it's not exactly conditional approval. It's uh we would we would allow the plan to go through and then uh that's what we're saying. Well, I guess conditional is I guess maybe different than finalizing something administratively. Is that what you're saying, Tony? I think so. Brian suggested final approval uh administratively instead of us doing conditioning and talking to Pam and and and debating it back and forth when we're not here as a board, I guess. And and maybe I mean, you're not going to bring something in that's going to be like showing this massive thing on the corner. Yeah. You're not Yeah. So, I don't know if there's anything new that's going to be, you know, in your if you guys would have a I mean, I would I would I would think just given the studies you've done if you all of a sudden get this information and and realize that there's going to be a unit seen. Yeah. Then I'll call Pam. Yeah. Well, I I kind of hate to have, you know, one board member changing things a little bit and we're not not here. We'd have to have another meeting then. Uh, while I'm at it, there was one thing I wanted to bring up. Do you have a dumpster? Are you going to have a dumpster out there or not? Yeah, that was another Pam's suggestion that has to be a self-closing door dumpster. And I've always wondered about this and uh I I looked up the code. There's nothing in our code about a self door dumpster. And other people have said these we can't find that in your code. So I don't know what uh did you have a dumpster? So, right right here, this I know the building's here and I can't turn that off just because it's part of Google Earth, but these last two um uh doors, I believe one of those is set to have a compactor. Oh, it's a compactor. So, you're Yeah. Yeah, it's it's uh and they would sort of a dumpster. Yeah, it's a dumpster and it Well, I'd be comfortable if it would

just match the door. It doesn't have to be automatic because there's nothing in our code about automatic dumpsters. I've seen that before. Maybe you have too. Kind of bothers me. Yeah. I think that might be a little excessive to ask. Oh, yeah. For that to close or to put she she suggested automatic closing doors so that people don't leave them open and animals. And we're kind of thinking that might be a little bit. I mean, I'm sure it's expensive. Probably a pain in the butt to maintain and we don't have anything necessarily in the code that's requiring what you're say. So, it'd be nice to match your building. That would be about what we think would be nice for aesthetics. But, uh, sure. If you're asking for Sounds like I'm I'm pan bashing tonight, but I'm really really not. I happen to like Pam. Um the uh dumpsters enclosures is is something we are are familiar with doing and I don't believe there's a a problem doing it. And in fact as long as we're doing pre-cast panels, you know, we can make dumpster enclosure pre-cast panels as they lay on the side or or you know, white CMU, make it look nice, you know. Yeah. We can make it the same material as the building if if it's required. Yeah. But uh automatic closing gate. We have we'll have swing gates with a chain and padlock maybe. Uh I think that's that's fine. Reason that's reasonable. So I'm I'm just thinking that there's probably nothing that's going to pop up that would change necessarily. You know, he's not going to bring something that's going to make you swing the other direction. I I tend to say I I don't I really don't think there's going to be from everything you've shown us, I don't think that the the public road is going to there's going to be anything that's going to be really visible, especially if you do some upgrades to the landscaping as as suggested and others. Um once you're on site, like like they just mentioned back there, it's on site. It's on site. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It's it's the traveling public. It's the neighborhood across the street

and you've shown that in here. um that there's really Yeah, you'd have to see through that dome that's there through the trees. And we're still How far away did you say that is? So, um here almost 659.7 ft, you know, to the front of the building. Add a little bit more on to get to the unit. You're at 700 ft. That little triangle of trees right underneath the man you just brought up there, that's a great place to drop some evergreens because then it aligns between the building and that residential. Yeah. the entrance to the neighborhood there this this year. Yeah, that area there. I don't know if you can keep that or whatever. But yeah, I uh Awesome. I I think we only cleared trees where we needed to. And um I don't think there's any uh I don't think we're touching that too much out here. But if you were asking about the distance, what I'd like to do is I was parked here when I took that picture straight out to the door and and you can see how high you are at the residence and coming down, which doesn't work in my favor. Yeah. Uh but I mean that's that's 664 ft and then you're another 45 ft back there. So you're stop over 700 ft. at some point every day. Yeah. So, yeah, here it's like 900. If I turn the model off, you can see where um you know, that's 900. Not even yet to the middle of the building. Yeah, you need a telescope to see. I know. Well, and and that's that was part of my argument and I know she's happy about it. Tree from a quarter mile away, right? So, I don't I'm thinking, you know, we might make a suggestion that that that you know, some upgrades to the

to the landscaping as suggested at the meeting to be reviewed administratively. Yeah. And I think I think I think we're all kind of saying the same thing. I think the distance and everything. Do you want me to uh call for an administrative meeting once I get some more information on HAC units? I mean, I I don't think it's that far out. I just don't think it's next week. I think it's probably the week after and I can do another sighteline study. What was the distance that you thought the minimum that it would be back off the front of the building? 45 ft. you thought because it's called that first congrat where you're going to want to set your So I wonder Yeah, we could say as long as there's nothing over 6 feet closer than 40 ft from the front of the building. I'm fine with that. Yeah, that I think that I think that that again I don't Yeah. Why didn't I think of that? Again, I don't I think we're more Brian is haven't had a chance to talk. He did. He's still up there. Okay. I moved past the screening about 30 minutes. Yeah. So, okay. So, besides the screening, was there? It's been so long we talk about it. Was there anything else we were talking about? Oh, boy. Go through all this. Brian, was there other things? Yeah. Okay. Should we take a recess? We already talked about the dumpster enclosure and you you've acknowledged and said you could use the pre-cast and we can yeah if if not using the pre-cast we will make it in a a similar material as the building so just provide that I have no problem reviewing it administratively if that's okay with the commission. Um, site lighting was

fine. Engineer will talk about storm water basins. You're going to the BCA for parking and apron with I believe had that last week. Both got approved. Okay. So, that's good. Then the biggest thing that I continue to come to is what's going on to the with that driveway that was a 75 foot easement is now a driveway back to an easement. It looks like it's going to the trailer parking. It dead ends now. That's that is my biggest Oh. Uh future future development. Yeah. Let's uh so what's going on with the trailers back at the So uh the trailers are the I learned the trailers are parked that's leased land from the current owner from Norfolk Southern for and I don't want to disclose how much a month because I thought it was ridiculous but um that's going to go away because as soon as he moves that lease disappears and he's got to move those trailers. You wouldn't start a new lease with them. We don't need that storage. He's using it to store. It's It's a land lease to store. And it's probably, if I had to guess, it's it's probably a lease so that he can have access across their tracks because Norfolk Southern does not like to give permanent access easements across their tracks. So, as long Maybe you could provide that easement for review. Um, I'm just concerned. I have it. I have it. Yes. Yeah. I'm just concerned that we don't know the intent of it. Um, and you know, you're you're making a significant investment which we all love and we want to see the ugly things go away. So, we want to make sure that that is going away as part of this project. Yeah. And I talked to I'm sorry. And and I was going to say then my only other issue is it ter I don't know how you're

terminating that driveway. It just stops on the paper. It needs to stop with some degree of, you know, thought for the safety forces. Yeah. And um I don't know why Matt left that on there because the owner agreed and we talked through that that's access to a future uh development if they parcel off that last triangle of land. It comes to a point there. So, if we look at an overall site, which this one's good, C103, um, there's the building and then there's this parcel, which is all part of their purchase. Yeah. And at some point in time, they will probably parcel off this land if they feel that they can benefit from a separate development here. So, as of this project going forward today, this access road won't be there. However, I think we are taking utilities down that and and capping them at that line. So, yeah, I don't know how you would parcel that off without frontage on a dedicated road, but that's a different conversation. Well, um Well, that is a good point. So, we would have to parcel it off and Jerry meander some some frontage on the Valley View Road, right? And I'm just going to say out loud that that likely wouldn't meet the really really challenging. So yeah, I I would just encourage a commission to um you know it needs to terminate in a meaningful way. So we would need to see that in a revised plan. Well the Okay. So the the road I don't think is being built. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, if that road is for a potential future development of a landlock parcel that would be owned separately by a different developer,

then the road should be built at that time in the future, not right. And that's what we talked the client into. In other words, Matt Weber just didn't delete the driveway from the drawings. Damn, Matt. That's all you had to say. So, you get to prove it subject to removal of that. And if that ever wants to come to fruition, he had to come back for a planning for approval for multiple reasons. Yes, sir. Yeah. Other than that piece, um, and I would stipulate that I I think the city does want to see, or at least my opinion would want to see that easement, have that forwarded to the building department so we can take a peek at it and just make sure it extinguishes. And if it doesn't, then there's some separate issues of access to a non-conforming site and all. Yeah, I don't even think he's going for the easement at this point yet cuz that road may I don't know. He may never develop that, right? So, yeah, but as it stands right now, there's a use down there that's not permitted and we just need to know that use is going away when this project It's It's my understanding that the current owner of the property it will will need to vacate that equipment and storage off of that lot. Yeah. So, we just want to see that. Understood. Is that like an agreement or that like a sale agreement that he wants to there there's some mechanism that that gives them rights to to do what they're doing now. Yeah. Just review that. Yeah. We I have in house counsel. I'll see what she says. Maybe she can write something up to Sure. And and can chair with the building department and Mr. Gdaddy can review it and I'd be glad to talk to him. Should I just send it to you first and Okay.

And you know the the client might have that in the purchase agreement also. So you can redact out the cost of the agree you know the purchase peek at that the snippets. Sure. of it. Okay. However you want to convey that message. And that's currently what on-site storage or I don't know what it is. Outside junk. You got a bunch of junk back there that I think the city would like to see go away. Yeah. I find it hard to believe that your folks are spending a couple bucks that they're going to want to look at that. No, they they um they like my design and um I I think they want a nice clean site and they want to live in harmony with the municipality. I mean, they're in Macedonia now. Yeah. Correct. Listen, it's going to look a lot nicer than what's there now. So, that's good. Big investment. Yeah. Just need to see, you know, have Matt remove that. That clears up that concern and then we can take a peek at that just to make sure that that use extinguishes upon transfer. I feel comfortable with that. Good call. I agree. That was all I All right. Just jotting some notes down here. So yeah, it's the removal that future the road to the future development review of uh the lease agreement for the storage whatever that is. Um those are the two big Yeah. And sure that extinguishes upon transfer and then um any future road lot split or otherwise would have to come back to the

commission for approval. Okay. July. Yeah. Yeah. My turn. All right. Yeah. Thank you. Um, okay. I'll I'll try to be quick here and paraphrase some of this. Um, you guys submitted uh some detailed construction drawings and and that's great. A lot more detailed than we often get for planning commission. So, uh, oh, Matt's drawings. Matt's drawings. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Um, so I've reviewed at a high level here just for planning commission purposes. We have not moved into uh the detailed review of those plans. I always wait for this body to give an approval before I uh perform any real detailed review of the plans in front of you there or the storm water tax just in case something changes coming out of this meeting. You know what I mean? So, Right. Right. Uh so that's where we stand there. uh storm water. Uh you'll have to do the standard uh long-term inspection and maintenance agreement for the detention ponds in which uh the owner will maintain the ponds in perpetuity. Um Brian already brought up the driveway. I was going to bring up that exact same topic. Thank you. Uh sanitary sewer service looks like you have a lift station you're going to pump out the back up to Abraham Way to the north. to the north. Correct. Which probably is a good thing because I don't think there's gravity service on Valley View Road. So, you probably have to go that way. Yeah. But it does uh fall with on within railroad property land. I don't know if you were aware of that. The horse name that you're showing. Yeah. The um Peak Nano, we have a meeting Thursday. Yeah. with an engineer from Norfolk Southern and a consultant for uh real estate and easement. Okay. And um Pano can't can't close on the land. They can't get the

funding from the bank until they have a permanent access easement. So the neighbor to the north already has a uh JWD JWD already has a permanent access agreement with them because I think at one point in time they did a land swap. Yeah, it was going to be my next comment too, but go ahead. Yeah. So, I think what they're going to try and do is is we're going to ask for both of them to be permanent. Yeah. Um because we do have a rail spur feeding this. So, that's usually a decent trade-off. Not only that, it's not it's not the main line that what we're coming off of is also a they call it a spur of a spur. Yeah, it's a spur of a spur because that one goes up to the old stamping plant, right? Um, so at the very least, you know, we'd like to piggy back off of an existing permanent access agreement because we don't we don't see it as any hair off of their back because it's already a permanent one. Yes. So, in other words, Peak Nando is working with the railroad to gain Yes, sir. uh permission, if we will uh to install this sanitary force man on across that property to get to the manhole where you got to get to. Yes, sir. All right. That's great. Uh it also would need approval from Summit County uh as well because they uh own the sanitary sewer system. So Okay. Uh so that's good. And then that kind of leads me to my next one is uh I see that the driveway that you're going to build to the north uh you're going to pave that driveway. It will be improved. Yes. Would be improved. Fantastic. I I think that's a great thing because it's it's been a bit of a mess for a long time. Uh, but the same thing it that seems to fall across land owned by the railroad and JWD is already using that. Correct me if I'm wrong. In ingress, egress and the right to improve the driveway will be part of Peak Nano's negotiation um that you're describing. I'll take note of it. I haven't I haven't thought of it. I I know that we have

uh in the budget to improve all the way to the culdesac and that's great. Yeah, that's what you show on the drawings. But again, it appears that part of the driveway you're improving actually falls across railroad property. Yeah, I'm it's not all appreciate it if we improved. Oh, everybody would appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping I I just from our point of view, we don't want to just blindly approve a plan for you to work over the property line without some uh concurrence from that other property owner, I guess, is my point. It's hard for us to grant the permit without knowing the neighbor is okay with this. Yeah. I I I found it interesting that if you zoom into where that property crosses, although doesn't show it here, um if I take off the terrain, um that it splits into two roads crossing. Yep, it does. And um the only thing I can think of is JWD did not want the heavy trucks carrying the concrete crossing there tearing up their road. That's the only thing I could think of. Yeah, I don't know. That's I' I have seen that before. It's curious. I don't know why that is. It's it's something that uh you know and and Oh, I'm sorry. It's it's a benefit to our discussions when we're talking to Nor folk too. Say, "Hey, we're not when we're not adding another crossing. It's already there. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, just u when you have permission, I guess to work on Norfolk Southern's property, however that comes to you, please share it with us. So, yeah, just piggyback on it. I don't know how can we issue a permit for you to do some on somebody else's. That's what they were saying. Even with the permission, we probably have to go

through the law department because we, you know, they should really be asking permission to um do something on their property even though you are going to be doing it, but I you know, I can't legally issue permit for you to do work on somebody else's property. That was my point. you know, cut. So, in the in the permit language, would you say this does not apply to Norfolk property or Yeah, we we can we're able to give you permit on what's in on your property. You know, if you want to do something on somebody else's property legally, they're the ones that should be applying for the permit. Uh unless you guys work some kind of agreement that the attorney will, you know, will accept. Exactly. Yeah, that that's what I'm thinking. Yeah. So Trevor, if you could provide us whatever information or permission uh that Peak Nana will get from the railroad, I think that's the starting point. Exactly. And then between myself, Nino, our law director, and yourself, we can figure out the proper way to permit it. So I don't know. Yeah, that is I don't want to speak too deep into the details. I just want to call it to attention. Yeah, I'll I'll hand it over to council. Let her deal with it. Yeah, there there you go. Now you're talking. I like that idea. So, uh, so that's great. Uh, if you have a retaining wall more than 48 in, we need a a stamped, uh, design from a PE. I noticed you had a detail in there for retaining wall. So, just be aware of that, please. Okay. Okay. And then the last thing, uh, the land bank parking that you show on the, uh, the parking schematic, I guess let's call it, the land bank parking appears to conflict with one of the detention ponds that Matt Weber has shown on his drawing, the southerntherly one. So, um, something's got to give. And you don't have to answer on the spot how it's going to be. I just want you I can answer if if a new tenant moves into this building. Yeah. say a call center

that has a thousand employees, two shifts, and it takes up all 500, then you'll see a different architect up there asking to move the pond and get in more popular parking. So, so move the pond further south if you're going to build the park. Yeah. So, it'll it's, you know, it's not underground detention. Not at this point. So, you know, it's just dirt. It's just dirt work. Dirt work, right? Okay. You could always head south where the trailers are. No, it's a different make a make a mound. Where would the trailers go? On the back of the train beyond city limits. City limits, right? Um that's all I have. Thank you. Yeah. Otherwise, I'm I'm good. No, I I understand all of your comments. Um you did ask wet pond or dry. Yeah, I guess it really doesn't so much matter. That's your choice. I I just threw that on there because it popped into my head. And I looked at it and I, you know, Matt usually does wet ponds. Um, neither is acceptable to us. Yeah. So, he's got some inlets and and he's got an outlet, but I didn't. When we review his detailed calc, we'll answer. Yeah. Give him a hard time for me. Oh, yes. I'm going to I'm going to harass him that he didn't delete the driveway at the south. Oh, I already did. Oh, you did? Okay. All right. Otherwise, I'm good. I'm comfortable with a approval pending administrative review like we sometimes do. Okay. Nina, you have anything else? I'm ask this question all the time. Do you have a schedule of events there when this company's existing going to remove all the equipment there? When you're going to start it? Um, well, they haven't closed in the land yet. Okay. So, I I don't anticipate it happening beforehand. I don't I just don't see that owner doing anything

until he knows he's sold the land. Okay. Um, so some of the things we're waiting on is uh the Norfolk Southern agreements and then uh power will serve letters and both of those are in the works and they're you know Norfolk Southern I think is is probably a little further along in the process but it's a longer process than what the power companies design you know because I'm not I'm not the person I talk to about the the power requirements and what we're asking for and and what design they have to do, but they got somebody on it. Design is being done. Um, you know, because there's there's going to be power for for day one and then there's going to be increased power to follow is is how those agreements are going because they can't provide the 600 1.21 gigawatts of power that they want. Uh, and it's all German. I think your equipment is all from Germany. I'm sorry. that all this equipment most of them are coming from Germany. Yeah. And I understand that a lot of those they do not do not have you listing approval. So, no, their their equipment does. They are. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Um cuz you brought that up the first meeting and I think uh Kevin uh the project manager. Okay. I had looked into it. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else? You guys got questions? We have beat him up for um I I was starting I was trying to jot down notes of of things to include. So maybe I'll I'll start with that. Um I missed something. We're we're good with the design. I think so. Yeah. Okay. Just make sure just just want to make sure tilt the wall. Do you want me do you want comments?

No. No. I'm good. All right. So, I'll make a motion to approve the plan uh subject to the reports of the engineer and planner. Some additional items. Susan, if you're ready. Uh dumpster enclosure to match the building. Removal of the road to the future development. Um, a review of the lease agreement for the outdoor stage to make sure it extinguishes upon sale. All right. Um, no additional roof screening with the stipulation of no mechanicals greater than six feet closer than 40 feet from the front of the building. Can you repeat that? Yeah. So, so no additional roof screening needed with a stipulation that there's no mechanicals greater than six feet closer than 40 ft. from the front of the building. And then additional landscaping as discussed and all this could be approved administratively. Is there a second? A second. I'd second

that. All right. trust. Um, Mr. France, anything? I thought it was an excellent job. It was good. Pretty good. So, I write stuff down. I remember things once in a while. Nice job, Susan. Excellent. All right. More discussion. All right. All in favor? I All right. Great work. Thanks. Thank you, sir. Yeah. And there was one I got to show you something. Can I see that? Mr. It's just a pen. You ever heard of it? Well, it's a Yeah, right. It looks like Oh, sorry. Yeah, we can do it. Yeah, this is an easy one. So, um what I wanted to uh show here was it was off the edge of the It was off the edge, but I I dropped a Humvee in their parking lot because they might have uh some government conting that we got. Where's the rusted? That's pretty cool. Very cool. Thank you for bringing all that. Yeah, it was idea. stuff. You want to blame yourself? We'll go back to what was issue or item one. Now item three is the uh block cond consolidation for the parcels at 9764 Valley View Road. Um nobody here to discuss it, but we could probably still go over it. You want to start with your Sure. Yeah. Um so

essentially uh the applicant is proposing um to combine a portion of parcel 33268 about 35,000 square ft with the existing parcel um to the south which is 33 01195 or addressed as 9764 value. The result is that um the consolidation will make parcel 33 01195 the address 9764 value view enlarged to 2.1167 acres. The corner parcel then would be reduced to 3.3148 acres. lot splits and consolidations are regulated um in this uh planning portion of the code specifically 111703b um there's really no issue with the DOP there's no concern I had noted that um zoning but I looked at an old zoning map I have an updated one now that was reszoned I think in 2011 correct um so my memory is escaping me a bit I must have worked on it But uh it was reszoned to BO. So the um what I reference is R1 is actually BO. There's no concern there. Looking at that district um you need at least an acre. So no concern is the parcel will be um larger than that. So I'd recommend approval. So go ahead. Go ahead. Are they both the residential? No. One's one's B1, one's BO. So when you combine the two, what what is the final parcel going to be or the one the one to the south will be um all B one one and the one to the north will be all BO BO is so what is business office business business office that's what the new parcel will be the new parcel of all

the vacant land will be B1 what's permitted in B1 business what's permitted in that district yeah hang that's kind of odd another an care facility probably coming up. Yeah, that if I remember correctly that that is why it was reszoned now that I think about that it was but that is one of the uses. Long-term care facilities, skilled nursing home, senior senior residents, these are all conditionally permitted. So they had to come to the planning commission um banks. They're all pretty soft. Offices Yeah, pretty soft uses. Well, I wonder why he wanted them. He's not here, but consolidated. What's the point? Were there different zoning just to have more land on the the vacant piece to make it more developable would be my guessing one? Uh, but it's it's residential. No, I know he that was he had it wrong. He was looking at an old map. It's the the B. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. That confused me. Yeah, it's business office. So B1 district is I guess the reason why I'm asking this question is because I know we had a lot of discussion regards to that other facility that's going on by the bowling alley and so are we looking to possibly consolidate this and then have it zoned to be something that would allow a facility that would tax the police and EMS and fire and stuff like that even more so it's it's already allowed now. It is already allowed now. Okay. So, we're not we're not doing anything that's going to change that. But I guess that would be my concern. No, it's already the going to business office. You'd have a more likelihood that you'd get something different than what you just described than staying if it were residential. Got it. Yeah. But it's irrelevant. It's already zoned that way. That's what I wanted to make sure is

that we're not changing the zoning. just flipping the acorage is all. Mhm. So, it meets the requirements. So, there's I only commented because I looked at it and obviously I didn't remember there was a reasonzoning and I'm like, "Oh, at least it'll match zoning wise because it looked like it was split zoning previously." But that's fine. It's all business. Got it. Okay. It's fine. So, I I don't see any reason to not approve it. Joy, you uh Yeah. I mean, it looks good to me. We're not creating any new parcels. same number of parcels when we're all done. Uh parcel isn't non-conforming. It's not landlocked and nothing weird like that. Brian already touched on the zoning kind of gets cleaned up here, which is a good thing. So, I recommend we approve it. And then, uh, chairman, it looks like the surveyor of record has signed the plat, but the applicant or the owner has not. So, once the owner signs, then you and I. Okay. But we should not sign until the owner does. Okay, Nino, do you have anything on that? Any questions here? Nope. No further questions. Make a motion to approve. I'll second it. All in favor? I I All right. I think I think that's it. Sign this one. Uh, someone make a motion to adjourn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Tony, you want a second? Very good. Tony, you seconded that. Yeah, I'll second. All right. All in favor? I I