Utilities Committee - Regular Meeting

It is 7 o'clock. I call the meeting of the Londonderry Utility Committee from September 1 to order. Loyal swear. I swear loyalty to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic as it represents a nation under God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all. All right. All right. Before we start, Martha asked me to lead the front seat tonight. She had her hand operated on a few days ago and is still recovering, but she said everything was fine, even if it was still very painful. She will be back in the saddle very soon. All right. Uh, loyal foe, public comment and no publicity. You have to appoint someone.

Must appoint someone. So how many of us are missing?

Well, I think...

I'm missing Marta and Paul. Well, I'd like it to be decided tonight. A quick question. Are we being recorded this time? No, it's still not recording. So, very briefly, I learned something because I made audio recordings, which is very difficult, but I made notes. And guess what the audio does. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.

Ah, oh wow.

Everything is fine. Oh, thank you, thank you. So, my apologies.

The next topic he will address is the protocol. Let me make a note. The approval of the protocol of the Utility Committee.

Did anyone have the opportunity to read John's protocol?

Are there any corrections or notes?

I take an application to accept the protocol as it is. Michael, second. All for it.

I am. The chairman of the city administration.

Or James?

All right. So, big progress on the High Range Road Project. You are, I would say, almost three quarters done, if not more than three quarters, up to your end point at Alexander. You have achieved a few thousand feet per week. And you have been with us for one and a half months now. Uh, things are going really well. Uh, wastewater. Sorry, the water down at the sow. Uh, the main line is in. Last tests and repairs are currently taking place down there. There were a few difficulties, but it's actually going pretty well. The old dairy water project is completed. I don't know if it's already in operation. Do you know if it's already in operation?

I'm bumping into some things down here. So, the pipeline is finished until the pump is finished, whose completion is planned for 2027. It will not go online. So you are working on the pump that is located on the former Auburn Road Superfund site.

But are the traffic barriers and so on finished when you work on a pump that is not on the street? Correct. I don't think we had construction work at Old Derry.

Let me answer the question.

Will there be traffic jams at the pump station?

No, it's not on the road. It's on the old dairy forecourt of the Auburn Road depot.

And I think it's been like that for a while. It will also be re-asphalted next year because it has to settle first. Whenever we move a water line, we let it settle for a year and then re-asphalte it. So the maintenance asphalt will remain as it is and then it will be re-asphalted next year. This is the roller coaster ride that goes down hard. That's a pretty good bonus, isn't it?

That's fun.

Then you immediately notice when the ride is bad.

The pumping plant on Auburn Road will not put it on the Superfund site. Wird es davor oder darin liegen oder weil da ja noch?

Liegt nicht innerhalb des Superfundgebiets. Nein, es liegt nur auf dem Grundstück. Und es liegt an der Old Dairy Road. Es wird also direkt dort an der Old Road sein.

Weil dort nicht so viel Platz ist?

Nein, man braucht nicht viel Platz. Man braucht überhaupt nicht viel Platz. Pumpwerke sind nicht besonders groß.

Ich halte einfach die Augen offen.

Also zurück zur High Range Road, dem südlichen Teil bezüglich der Asphaltierung. Ich glaube, sie planen, den südlichen Teil später in diesem Jahr endgültig zu asphaltieren, da das alles letztes gemacht wurde. Aber der nördliche Teil wird nicht asphaltiert. Und ich glaube, die Grenze zwischen Nord und Süd ist im Grunde die Kreuzung Pillsbury Road. Everything south of it should still be asphalted this year and everything north of it will be done next year as soon as the northern sections are completely finished. And then the Woodmont drain project. The entire drain line is already there and the pump station is currently under construction. I think the construction work will go until the end of the construction season 2027. Es wird eine Weile dauern, bis das alles fertig ist. Und danach glaube ich, dass es zu diesem Zeitpunkt in Betrieb gehen wird. Aber die Frage ist, wie viel Abfluss dann dort ankommt. Und darauf habe ich derzeit keine Antwort.

I have a few more logistical things to note, actually only one. As you may have noticed, and I know that John noticed it, we have modernized our access control systems for the building. We will find that there are new locks on the front as well as on Sunnycrest and Woodmont. We got rid of this old keychain that everyone still uses with the code of a person from five years ago. Um, yes, sorry, that was not intentional. I really spoke the truth. And that also applies to the break room. We are still checking how far we will introduce certificates for the committees. We are not there yet. We have, you know, the next committee that you should get. Of course, the council has to keep them. All employees already have them, as well as the election committee and the election office. But in the meantime, John, I assume you didn't have any problems getting into the building last time, did you? Because the new system, the programming, works perfectly. I can correct it from the phone. Unlike the last time, when you had to switch to a Windows 7 computer, with this new system, if we missed the planning, we can fix it quickly. If you need the rooms outside the working hours, mostly not during the week, but at the weekends, just send an email as usual. Then we plan the unlock. And if it shouldn't be unlocked, you can still write to me. So don't write to me, James. He's far away and doesn't have the app. Write to me and wherever I am, I can actually unlock it. So, John, next time we talk on the phone, you know, when I was in Windsor Castle last year? You know, that's just going to be an SMS. And I can now turn it off. So it's really...

Impression.

We did it. But yes, it's much easier now. So the upgrade of the systems was very successful. Last week they didn't really know it yet, but yes. Thanks.

James, with the Woodman project, you already have one day for the final plastering.

The upper part of the project outside at the Bancroft Road was renovated. The bearing layer came on it a few weeks ago and the final top is then followed next year. So it has to survive the winter again. And the section at Heidi Road will then be completely new next year, a little under the pump is already there.

All charging works this year have been completed. Have you already published that in one of your Facebook posts, what the further plan looks like? Because that's one of the questions I get from people around the area. When will the street be completed? But I thought that was the case, where you have to wait a year.

I mean, we would have published something about it. But surely a refreshment would be good to let people get the message. Absolutely.

And the other question I received is, are the disturbances on this street section almost over?

Until the final patch.

That might be a great message that we can spread. These two things? Yes.

I think all the drain connections on Bancroft Road, the heavyweight part, all that is done and they are all in there. As soon as the line is in operation, you can connect the houses. There are no connections on the section of Hardy Road. This is just a 12-inch pressure line. And then the pump station itself. The remaining disturbances on the road will therefore limit themselves to the final plastering and reconstruction.

Ich habe eine Frage bezüglich Pillsbury und Hardy. Die Neuasphaltierung der Straße, die komplette Neuasphaltierung.

Wer bezahlt das? Das ist Teil der Projektkosten. Danke. Dankeschön.

My monthly question is, how is the response to the special events in the district going?

So that's actually an interesting thing. We simply didn't have the opportunity to apply over the summer, simply because of the staff cover. You know, we had some people who were unexpectedly on vacation. We had, you know, we still have some open positions, which led to a little additional workload. In the meantime, the state has approved the House Bill 151888, which you may know more because of its impact on multi-family homes and zone divisions, but also contains another point in which cities can form special evaluation districts if 65% of the people living there agree. And that may not sound like a huge difference to before, but we needed 65% of the people for a petition to then go to the city council with it. This law will come into force on September 17th.

So we're waiting for it. So that we can then take the next step, because we want it to be people, it simply saves a large part of the steps. Since we are currently at 35 percent, we will check and ensure that these signatures are simply taken over. And then we will take this initiative. Because instead of a process with several contacts, with whom we sign, with whom we sign, with whom we act, in which we have to send mail to everyone about public awareness and public hearings and everything. People can just sign it. And again, since this has no financial impact, unless you decide to do so, we feel pretty good about it, because it costs something to no one in his evaluation. Unless you decide to use it. But we have some people who have asked afterwards and say, hey, I live in Nashville. Do you want to make use of it?

Fortunately, we are still in the phase in which people know that before they can do that, they have to talk to Pinnatschuk. They have to get a loan from a construction company. So we don't stop anyone yet. But that's what we're looking at with the new legislation. Is that understandable?

Yes, I think it could also be a good argument to say that even if you don't want to use it, a registration at the resale of your house could help when the time comes.

To know that it is available is a very good idea. And we actually had a few people who signed and said exactly that. They say, you know, I won't do it, but I want it to be there. Plan to sell in five years. Plan to sell in three years. I want this option to exist.

I walked through the city in the last week or so. And one of the people I spoke to mentioned that she thought, this person thought, if they set up the special opening district, they would have to connect to the water supply and also pay for the things. Even for the connection, even if she doesn't want that at all. I told her, whoever gave her this information, delivered the wrong information, So you could at least get a angry call. Do you know who told me that? Yes, I would like to.

And I think I've said that before. Our individual conversations have been very successful so far, haven't they? It's a complicated matter and we want to make sure that people understand it. You know, you can hold it in writing and so often you want to put it in the newspaper, but as long as it doesn't directly appeal to anyone, they will no longer remember what they have seen in the past, right? So they will focus on what is right in front of them. And that's why I encourage people to always come by and talk. I like to sit down with them to talk about it and explain the whole process and its meaning to them. Because really, I can't emphasize enough, no one is obliged to connect to the water network Niemand ist verpflichtet, seinen Brunnen stillzulegen, selbst wenn er das Programm oder staatliche Gelder in Anspruch nimmt. Sie müssen Ihren Brunnen nur stilllegen, wenn Sie an einem EPA-Programm teilnehmen. Das ist eine völlig andere Sache. Aber niemand, der dieses Jahr an diese neuen Wasserleitungen angeschlossen wird, muss das tun, muss das tun. Niemand ist verpflichtet, die Sonderumlage zu leisten. And if you don't take the special deposit into account, it has absolutely no financial impact on your house. Your house is not charged for anything. You only pay for what you consume. So that was my little reminder for everyone who wants to write something about it afterwards. That's exactly what it's about. So there are no costs and people can contact me. I am happy to talk to you personally.

I was lucky enough to have the answers to your questions, but I did not report that they were giving you details.

Yes, I currently have a callback cycle of about 36 to 48 hours. My employment permit does not allow me to make calls within 24 hours at the moment. I just want to clarify that in case someone receives no feedback.

I... You are in the queue.

There is a queue. She is, she is not necessarily short. I try my best to answer people as quickly as possible.

Of the 35% who are interested in it, which part of the city do they come from? Are there certain parts of the city or is it pretty evenly distributed?

So it's pretty much distributed over the 200 properties in question. So High Range Road, Old Nashville Road and South Road, most of them. Is it pretty much the same among you?

Are there any further questions to the city administration?

I actually have a question that might sound a bit naive, but I'm interested in the pump station on Auburn Road. Where is the water from this pump station pumped from?

The water line on Auburn Road is a connection point between Manchester and Derry. It's more of a passage line than anything else.

I'm just a little worried about the Superfund location on Auburn Road right there.

So it does not feed water into the system. It is used because the height difference is a real problem. And when we talk about the fact that we will need one in the future or... Tell me if I'm wrong. Am I wrong? You looked at me, that's really wrong. So when we talked about the fact that we need a pumping station near the High Range Road to supply the entire area between High Range and Mammoth with water, then it's due to these height differences. And that's why there has to be a pumping station there, because the water has to flow up a considerable amount of mountains. So it's not an intake station, it's not a water source, which is only there to pass through.

What you said.

That's why he called me. I thought, wait, did I say something wrong?

By the way, you can clarify it if you need an explanation. The water comes from Manchester. It flows down. It goes to Derry. The pump station is now in the line to support the water.

It will not necessarily supply anyone else in the London area, except for the P.U.B.

An der Auburn Road wird umgesetzt.

Es gibt eine Pumpstation in Derry, die es über den Hügel pumpt.

Wo, wie heißt der berühmte Typ? Robert Frost. Robert Frost. Over this hill. Derry has a pumping station to pump us over. That is already there and works perfectly. This is an extension. To increase the water pressure. Now the discussion is that the water will come from Derry. That doesn't quite make sense. Das Wasser kommt bereits von Manchester nach Derry. Die Leitung wird in der Leitung liegen. Die Leitung wird unter Druck stehen. Aber der Zufluss kommt eigentlich aus Manchester. Korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich falsch liege.

This is generally correct. Yes, the source is Manchester. It is a connection between Manchester and Derry. We call it circulation. So there is already water in Derry and Derry is correct. But this connection point improves the water quality and efficiency of the system. And because there was an additional need for the southern New Hampshire.

Currently, maybe 1.2 to 1.5 million are being pumped. I don't know exactly how much, but that has to be increased. Okay, because they will add more. Okay, in the end it will be over 3 million. So this is an additional flow booster station to pump the water. The benefit for London.

Tell me someone. Carla and Iris are part of our contaminated water sources and they are connected to this line.

Why is Carla directly next to the Partridge Lane and the other streets up there? I mentioned this in the past. Caroline is the whole new opening.

Density and supply. Those are the two things. There are more houses up there.

I counted them.

There is the density. So for the number of houses and the costs of the line, these are the lowest costs per residence of all projects we have considered. The lowest costs per living room. The houses on the Partridge and Mallard are much further apart. The running meters are much more.

As with Carla and Lilly.

But you have more houses. You have, unless you keep going.

So there are over 50 dwellings that are supplied by a project that costs just under 2 million dollars. That's a lot. We have calculated the running meters and the number of houses and this is one of the most significant. In addition, there is a massive PAS contamination problem as well as supply problems. So there is not the water supply, the amount of water that is available to you. So there are these two things. The houses on top of this hill have extremely high contamination. We are talking about thirties, forties, fifties. So it is actually one of these little ones. I mean, for someone who lives on top of another hill in the area, they know what it can be like with these hill areas. That's why Carla and Lilly are an accumulation of factors. That means, I'll say it, Mallard and Partridge have for a while now a line that runs along the Old Derry. This main line already existed. The line runs down to the other street, Clover, huh? Sie führt tatsächlich direkt bis nach Partridge. Sie führt tatsächlich direkt bis zur Büste. Das ist also keine neue Wasserleitungserweiterung für uns, diese Old Darien Road. Aber diese Verbindung, die Derry-Orban Road, zum Rest dieser alten Dare Road-Leitung, eröffnet die Möglichkeit, den Rest der Siedlung anzuschließen. Als sie diese Siedlung bauten, bauten sie sie in vier Phasen. Die allererste Phase planten sie mit Brunnen und sie legten Brunnen für die erste Gruppe von etwa 50 Häusern an. Then they noticed the water problems, the supply problems. They realized that they would not be able to drill wells for the rest due to the supply. And that is why the remaining houses are already connected to the urban water supply. So we have a part, three quarters of the settlements, actually three phases, about two thirds of the settlements already on the public water network and about a third not. And this third has quite significant challenges. So that was up to the number of people we could reach. We were able to bring public water to their houses at this price. That's why it had priority. That's why it exists. It was just pure. Remember when you set the criteria, the number of people, the vulnerability? That's when we found out.

And one of them was, the household can afford a chicken. You can't afford the Cadillac. So we have to serve the chicken. In other words, we have a limit.

I don't think that the economy of the settlements was part of the criteria.

No, no, no, we're not talking about that.

The economy of the costs to bring it there.

I assume we can talk about that later. Could you just explain why Mallard and Partridge should be prioritized over this other quarter? Because they have high values for PFS in the quarter. High pressure.

We have many quarters with high pressure, so we have to decide between the high-pressured. Is there another reason why you think it's mellowing?

There are also many children under five years. And that's true. Other people are over 65. What do you do to people in need of protection? You also have these people. We don't count anymore.

You are not in need of protection.

You are in need of protection. These people have been drinking water for longer than the people in the new construction area. So we have younger and older groups of people who have been drinking water for 20, 30, 40 years. And I would like to say that... And that was also part of the criteria.

But I have to say that the young families and the older people, it is also distributed quite evenly across the community. Unless you have a community that is especially designed for smaller apartments, which are more inhabited by singles and couples. But this quarter, this quarter is not a quarter for over 55-year-olds, for over 55-year-olds. There are also many families in this quarter. It is never an easy decision. And that's one reason why this whole thing has been checked by many people and many people have looked at these numbers and drawn the same conclusions. And it's also about where it's easiest. Where can we get the most clear arguments for federal funds? And you know, we have a new opportunity here to supply a large number of families with water very quickly. Es ist viel schwieriger zu argumentieren, dass wir die Gelegenheit hatten, eine Wasserleitung in dieses andere Viertel zu legen, es aber nicht getan haben. Und es ist viel teurer und versorgt weniger Häuser. Es gibt nicht so viele Häuser in diesem Viertel.

Richtig. Also ist gut. Nun, ich sage nur, dass es schade ist, dass Sie nicht beides machen konnten. Wissen Sie, Sie konnten den Neubau nicht machen und Sie konnten einige der älteren Siedlungen nicht machen, die dort schon waren, wo die Leute das Wasser getrunken haben. Nein, nein, ich habe eine Frage.

Schießen Sie das?

So do we have any data on houses with an increased PFAS load problem compared to how many have not installed a filter system? Because I'm just following your direction. So I think there are two problems, right? One is the contamination, the other is the pollution. And I hope that at this point, when you have a contaminated fountain, you have used the state programs for the installation of filters. And that's true. All the houses up there also have the claim for it. Well, I consider that as two different problems. I would like everyone up there to have used it. I can tell you, you don't have that. Then that's another story. You probably won't sign up to get water from the house.

Well, you see, that disturbs me a little bit, because we have all received the letters, right? The 500-foot letters, the DE has 500-foot letters. A large number of neighbors from our neighborhood.

So it's not even 500 who claim that their neighbor has contaminated groundwater.

And it's a concern, because if they have contaminated groundwater, this groundwater will eventually reach their fountains. Right. Water is moving. So many different houses will be contaminated. But some people just don't believe it.

One moment. And then Ray.

I just want to make a suggestion. I think this is an important conversation, but maybe we should do a little clarification as a committee. Just spread the word again. As you said, Lynn, you know, the state, I think the money is still available. Is that right?

It is still available.

So, yes, I mean, just publishing a few posts on Facebook would, in my opinion, be a good way to inform people. And you know, as Tristan said, the city, we now have these criteria. And so, I mean, I think we talked about it last year, you know, this is a long-term plan that we have. So, do you know, the more we as volunteers can do for this committee to help spread the message that people are now caring for themselves, while we, you know, are working on the long-term solution? Right.

Can we find a volunteer who writes a few essays to talk about the possibilities where filter systems can get the same from the state? Do you know some of the transitions?

Does anyone want to try it? Why don't you sign up voluntarily? Okay, I sign up voluntarily for it.

I will sign up for it. We will work together. Yes, I will work with Lynn and John. The three amigos will work on it. The very last chance. You know, the time is running out. The time is running out. We could probably bring something into the time zone.

I think that's the best way to make it known.

Exactly.

Yes.

Just personal experience. If you send something, take postcards. Postcards, no letters. That's my current knowledge. Do people see postcards? They don't open letters.

Wait with postcards until the election is over, because at the moment they all land in... Oh, they land in the trash. They land in the bin.

Every single one. I have a question. Are these the people you're talking about?

I'm not sure. What was the name of the street? I don't know.

Partridge Hill and Cardinal. If you want, you may join the line. If the supply were there, they would have a claim for the money for the connection. Do you think they would be part of the special district?

As far as the special district is concerned, it will only be expanded to residential areas where a main line is located. So when the lines are moved, these houses have the opportunity to become part of the special district. But at the moment, only the houses for financing are eligible for funding, otherwise someone could apply for money and block, although there is no line in front of the house. So there are houses in your neighborhood where there is currently no main line along the Partridge or Mallard.

A few neighborhoods.

So the question remains, apparently these people have highly contaminated wells.

Say that again, Ray.

Apparently these people have highly contaminated fountains in this neighborhood. Is that true?

I don't have any specific... I don't know any specific numbers. We have the numbers. I don't have them ready right away, Ray.

So you're not sure? I mean...

The specific numbers for households in the Mallert-Unde.

Park-specific numbers.

We have contaminated ones.

Over the maximum nitrogen value.

Correct. We have contaminated fountains in almost every neighborhood in the city.

Okay, okay. So you have claim for money from the responsible parties and the question is then... Where did the contamination come from?

Yes, I really want to...

Wait a minute.

Okay, I want to clarify that you can't say you have a claim for money from the responsible party.

That's not... That's the US Department of State.

Nein, das ist nicht die EPR. Die EPR ist für dieses Gebiet nicht zuständig. Es sind keine Gelder der EPR dafür verfügbar. Das ist der Standort Tinkham.

Ich einfach nur...

Okay.

Ich stimme ihm einfach zu.

Die EPR gibt kein Geld an einzelne Haushalte.

Das habe ich nicht gesagt.

Okay.

Die Aufgabe. Der US-EPA und das New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services ist es, das Wohlergehen der Bürger zu schützen. First priority. So to say the USA Bar has nothing to do with it, I think it's untrue. First of all, the Orban Road Superfund location, which is still a Superfund location.

That is our responsibility. Already because it was transferred. Orban was transferred and if it is a Superfund location, then there are potentially responsible parties.

Do you want to say that the US EPA has no responsibility for the Orban Road Superfund?

No, I say that it does.

Absolutely, it does. And you are most likely the cause of the contamination of these fountains.

Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Ray, Ray, I interrupt you again.

Please.

You can't speculate where this... Sie können nicht, ich würde Sie davor warnen in einem öffentlichen Rahmen als Vorstandsmitglied zu sagen, dass es daherkommt, weil es keine Daten oder Beweise gibt, die das stützen.

Okay.

Alles klar. Ich möchte nicht, dass die Leute, die in diesem Gebiet leben, herumlaufen und sagen, nun, ich habe bei dieser Vorstandssitzung gehört, dass meine Kontamination daherkommt, äh, äh. Denn es gibt keine nachgewiesene Verbindung. Die Wasserscheide verläuft in die entgegengesetzte Richtung. Okay? The EPA can not give, there is no way for the city of Londonderry to get money from the EPA. For this special quarter at the present time, it does not exist. We have decided to prove ourselves as a city. About financial resources from the Congress, which are actually running on an EPA-State grant, these are the two for which we have applied for two other projects this year. It is a difficult decision. Just like when the state of New Hampshire has to decide where its money should flow. this will always be a difficult decision and people will not always be happy about it. But as a board, as a city councilor, as an administrative officer in the city and as the leadership of the city, as the leadership of the council, you have to make difficult decisions. And part of it is about how to help most people as quickly as possible. Does everyone in this city deserve clean water? Absolut. Können wir es allen gleichzeitig bereitstellen? Nein. Es gibt einen Plan. Nur ist jetzt eben nicht jeder an der Reihe. Und ich kann das nicht deutlicher ausdrücken. Wir haben also einen EPA-Zuschuss für Carla und Iris beantragt. Heißt das Iris Lilly? Weiß es nicht mehr.

Was ist das Erste? Carla und Iris. Das höre ich zum ersten Mal.

No, I've been talking for months about the grants granted by Congress, which we applied for through the offices of John Shaheen and Chris Pappas, or... For this special community.

For Kala and Iris. And then for a part of the area east of High Range Road. Okay. I want to be very clear, because I don't want anyone to misunderstand.

Deny.

No, it's still going, Ray.

It's still going. You haven't made a decision yet. Excuse me?

It's also in the protocol, or John?

So from the beginning we were very clear and transparent in this matter. I. Discussion.

I know.

But I just want to make sure that we stick to the facts.

And don't give people false information.

That's very important.

Kirsten, if I may add something to the EPR site. There are a number of test wells there and the wells are regularly monitored for the spread of impurities, the amount of contamination and the like. To your point, the water moves in the opposite direction.

It does not move in the direction that we can explain in the article that we will write.

And we can also include other things, such as the evaluation program. This is a good opportunity. to inform you about the water situation in Londonderry. Here are five pages with... And a postcard will be sent to me by the post office. A postcard with four dots? It will be pink.

Don't throw it away. Four dots. All right. Is that all? Or are we ready to move on to the report of the Energy Subdivision?

Energy Subdivision. I think that's Linda. Yes. So I have a few points to go through tonight, so please be patient with me. First of all, we have received the data from Eversource about electricity consumption in the city until July. If we take this data and calculate it on the Community Choice program for the first four months, we have received savings of about $ 516,000 for the community. And August, September and October are not included in it yet, where we have clear price differences between our program and Eversource. But as I said, at the moment it is 516,000 dollars, which I think is fantastic for the first four months of the program. I will calculate the whole thing until January, since we have the data from Eversource until January. The current forecast is about 1.5 million dollars in savings for the citizens of the city over the different numbers in the entire urban area. We are currently looking at about 9,500 numbers and around 90 to 92 percent of the inhabitants or numbers in the city take part in the program. I think that's very remarkable. That's phenomenal. A real success.

That's a very positive story and I think that's another letter we should write for the newspaper.

Yes. In this context, I will meet with the city council on September 21 to inform them about the current status of the program. Schulde gets one or two more powerpoint folders so she can edit them. Bob is actually working on it today. So I'm planning to meet with the city council. I think to send him a positive message at this time is a great thing. So the program is going well. We signed an extended contract in June for 12 months for the city. The contract comes into force in November 2026 and runs until October 2027. The price will rise. It does not surprise anyone that the energy prices have risen drastically, which we also see on the market. I still believe that we have a pretty good contract and that we still have an excellent story to tell when the new prices come into force in November. So we will see some changes in the tariffs, but I still expect that it will be a very positive thing, because Eversource is affected by the same market conditions as we are. So everyone is affected by the same market conditions as we are.

So on September 21st, I will send Martha a note.

She should just copy everything with the foil and if someone comes and wants to say their opinion on it, that would be great. No, I don't think we've reached that point. They just want to participate in the recognitions. That's the most important thing at the moment. At the last meeting, I reported that we had contacted Clean Energy New Hampshire, a state program that supports municipalities in various political innovations and backgrounds to implement energy projects. Ich habe mit Katrin Casper, die unsere Koordinatorin sein wird, ein Telefon hin und her. Sie wird die Vertreterin für Londonderry. In der großen Gruppe in Concord sein. Im Moment erreichen wir uns gegenseitig nicht. Ich habe versucht, sie für das nächste... I don't think it will work, but I think she will be at our meeting in November. So we have enough time to know this in advance and to prepare some questions about what they can do. But in this context, I met with the head of the school authority Bob Slater and Dan Black last week. Sorry, Mike. You couldn't arrange it so that you could be there. But I had a good conversation with the two of them and they are very... I was there. I was just too late. You didn't get my message. No, no, I had an appointment and tried to get there on time. But you are both very interested in checking a solar project on the high school parking lot. So you are sitting in the same boat as me. You want to do it, try it, but to find out how to implement it. And I think, Mike, I myself, the members of the Energy Subcommittee, together with Katrin, Clean Energy New Hampshire and the school authority or the facility manager of the school system, I think we could make some progress in the next six months. I have a very positive feeling that we might be able to make it happen. Does the school have to own it? Can you have a developer build it there and the school then attract the energy? We have to find out what most makes sense. And I think it's time to say in advance how we would structure a contract. There are simply too many variables in this area at the moment. I'm not sure if we really know what the best way is. Anyway, the school authority agreed and I was very pleased and happy to talk to them. And I thought it was a very productive meeting. And last but not least, James, you were in the e-mail distributor regarding the city's energy supply contract, which expires at the end of December this year, and that we have to negotiate again. Well, I assume that the negotiations have begun, but... Our partner for the municipal freedom of choice, Freedom Energy Logistics, wants to participate in a competition-oriented writing-off in this direction. And there is not much time left until the contract expires.

Yes, I mean, at the present time, the information that you have passed on to our energy broker, i.e. UMG, was passed on. But we will certainly also connect with Freedom Energy.

I'm not even saying in which direction we should go, but I think if someone wants to offer a competitive basis, the city will only benefit. I don't know if it's a competitive writing process.

I had a short conversation with Dave today. He is far more experienced in this area than I am. But yes, we will definitely pass on the information from Film Energy.

Yes, just as a warning. You probably already noticed it, but we will probably see some significant cost increases, only due to the market conditions since the last contract signing. I think the current contract was signed two years ago. Therefore, we have probably done quite well in the last 12 months. And with that, are there any questions? Feel free to ask questions. I think things are developing in the right direction. And I think the program on municipal election freedom was a really big success for the city. For the city. I have a few more points.

Sure, just to. The Comcast facility in Manchester has a parking lot regulation with solar panels. Something similar to what we hopefully implement with the school district. I haven't been able to bring anyone up there to talk to me, but I have a public announcement or press release about your Comcast facility in Port Plymouth, Massachusetts. We have installed 177 panels over your parking area there.

This will cover more than 95% of the needs of this facility. The 1100 panels generate about 600 megawatt hours of electricity, which would normally be sufficient for about 60 households.

So obviously that's doable and I will continue to work hard to get through in Manchester and see if we don't

get a tour there and talk to someone who knows the details.

You know what would also be interesting, Mike? If you do it in detail, they could tell you who your client was for the installation.

Then we could just talk to them directly.

And these people probably too.

The point is, it is feasible.

That was for a while, so under other circumstances than now. But we will see. The other thing I wanted to address is I received a letter from Clean Choice Energy for the second time. And many, many people have received such a letter. It's very practical because it's a form. It's not really an ad. It's just a form that authorizes Clean Choice to take over their energy supplier.

And so they leave their previous provider. And as Lynn said, about 92% of us are our current supplier, the city of Londonderry, within the scope of the aggregation program. So the people are rightly confused about it. One of my neighbors asked me, do we have to sign this form to stay in the Clean Choice program? The answer is of course no. And I hope that we can make it public. I mean, it's not illegal, what they did. It is certainly clever, but it is also the case that the people are still new in the aggregation program. The people are still like, oh yes, I remember reading something about it. That must be part of it. Yes.

No, it is not.

And by the way, they also went from door to door.

There it was.

My head.

Wow.

I don't have to open it because I already... No, no, no, no.

There is a significant increase in these semi-robbery, I say semi-robbery, they are actually not, but they hide it. Companies that use very unobtrusive sales practices, both at the front door, as Ray said, as Ray said, as well as at this post office. And then we come to regular frauds, where people, applicants, write emails to the planning committee and construction committee and challenge them. to transfer money for your applications. Therefore, I would advise everyone who hears this to be careful. If you have a question about something, call the city administration. Call the city administration. Just call the general number. Tanja, you get all these strange questions. She does phenomenal work in the search for answers. So you know, that wasn't the first case. There was another gentleman who... There was another ad that came in. I don't remember what it was for anymore. You are the second person who addresses me on this letter today. that I heard about today. So, you know, the sellers are getting more and more desperate and try to do these things to make it look like they're serious. And it's not a scam. It's a legitimate company, but they use very unfair tactics. The other thing is, if someone as a dealer goes door to door, he has to have a travel business card from the city. That's why people can always call the construction department when someone comes to their door. I mean, please don't do that. Do you know the Wildcats or something like that? But with these companies you can always call the construction department and let them know that someone is out there, because they should know if someone is active in business.

But we make the article about the other line of water, you can also separately or including that, oh, by the way, we have the conversion going on. Or we separate the energy issue and say, they are now with us, unless they have resigned. And there are other companies that want to sell you a service. Yes, I'm thinking about saying something negative about it. Now, John, in the same sense. I'm thinking about saying something negative about these other companies. I'm just wondering if it would be worth a letter of recommendation that we could publish in the next week or so. Just say, be aware of these things. You know, if you are a member of the municipal election program in the area of London... Hey, I don't have time for these people. I would even wish for someone to ring my doorbell. I want to play a little with you. And by the way, the young gentleman who was at the door was very nice and very polite. I didn't throw him out, but I told him that I was worried.

Maybe I'll play a little with you.

Often they ask if they can see their bill. They say, I'm there. We just have to see your Eversource bill. No, no Eversource employee will ever come to your door and ask for the bill. No representative of the Community Choice Aggregation will ever come to your house and ask for the bill. That's one of your sales tactics. They say, oh, I come from, you know, the energy company. I just have to see your Eversource bill for a moment. And so they start. So there is never, really never a reason for it. Just like the city of London will never ask us to transfer money, You will never be asked for your Eversource bill. And that's important because these things change, isn't it? It may be difficult to keep an overview, but these are two important points. We will never ask you to transfer money to us. And Eversource will never come to your door and ask for your bill.

Yes, that wasn't so bad. Do you want to see my bill?

They are from the waterworks.

They have my bill. What are you doing? Go away. All right. So we have to write a few letters. You know, it might not be bad to refer to the state guidelines at the end of the letter, in which third parties are compared. And I assume that our aggregation program is now included there. I wouldn't expect it to be there. Okay.

But I haven't seen if it's in there or not.

There were a lot of people there, but maybe ours is so new that it's not quite there yet. But at least it offers the possibility to check things like, for example, the proposed tariff, when it expires, whether there are fees for the departure from the program. You know, all of that is on a nice little multi-page sheet on the website of the state.

So the problem I'm struggling with, John, is that it's just getting too long.

Don't read it.

Then I just want to sit down, I listen to it and say, we just have to address such letters and let people know that this is not our program.

Well, maybe we can do that when we come to the area of public work, as part of the conversation.

Maybe we could do something like that once a month, like letters of support from the committee or something like that.

I don't think that's bad at all.

All right. Is there anything else on the subject of energy?

No, that's all I have.

All right. Water. Kirsten and James gave us a great update on water. That was wonderful. Thank you. Wir bemühen uns weiterhin, Kontakte zu anderen Wassergruppen im südlichen New Hampshire zu knüpfen.

Du musst dich einfach nochmal anmelden und ich richte dir.

Wir können danach darüber sprechen. Ich mache K.

The big movement in the water is what the people from the city spoke of, which was good.

That was it for the moment.

Waste management. Yes, that's me.

We talked about three main topics at the last meeting. Two of them focus on what we had originally taken up in the city's strategy plan. Of course, this is now on ice, but we will still continue with these projects. The first is a video and other messages on the subject of composting at home, with which Joy is in charge. Would you like to give Joy a short update on your stand and your timetable?

So I met with the city administrator June in June and we have designed a timetable when information should be published. In doing so, we focus particularly on composting at home, both for homeowners and for residents of properties that have outside areas to compost there and perhaps a little bit for gardeners, so that they can use the compost directly on site. So that's the goal. I talked to him and he made suggestions for home composting. Which containers does he consider useful? Such with lids that can be closed tightly to keep rodents and the like away. It is now my task to check and procure these so that we can order some and make them available to people as soon as we start the educational programs. The idea is to bring the program to a start by next April. We are aiming for the Day of the Earth and planning an appropriate action. At the moment, I am working on procuring and ordering the compost containers, as well as creating a foundation for the educational program in order to plan how we can bring the topic closer to people. So, yes.

The second point on our strategy plan was the creation of a video for the maintenance of clearing groves. Our vice chairman for supply companies has already done the most difficult work and created a first script design that we can now all check. Here, too, we strive for a similar time frame in the spring to publish the video and provide accompanying information material. We think about Facebook posts, maybe ads in the newspaper and the like to achieve as much effect as possible with our work. Joy pointed us out to a report from March 2023, which shows clear caves in the city of Londonderry, which represent an environmental risk. Wir werden uns das ansehen und prüfen, ob wir einen Weg finden, diesen Leuten die Bedeutung der Wartung von Klärgruben zu vermitteln, insbesondere in Fällen, in denen sie an Naturschutzgebiete oder Wasserwege angrenzen, die für unsere Stadt von entscheidender Bedeutung sind. We just talked about this report at the last session and everyone had the task of reading it and bringing ideas to the next session, how we can inform these people, what is allowed and what is not.

Is it about private clearing systems? And how many, so how high is the range, the number of tanks that have been cleared?

I counted them. Joy, do you happen to have a number?

No, you know, I didn't look at it.

I haven't read the report for a year.

And I honestly can't remember. But you know, they have a report from Western Samson and they have different criteria. It is based on the proximity to surface waters. It is based on soil composition and the age of the system. And these are the criteria that they have drawn for the determination. I don't remember. But you know, the vast majority of us in Lannery use clear groves.

Oh yes.

We will have the report through until the next session and then present the report to the supply committee, where we will specifically refer to your number. I found the report. Of the 1370 identified items as Tier 1 or Tier 2, 736 lie in a spring water protection area. Is that good?

I don't know what Tier 1 and Tier 2 mean anymore. I think we have to research and see how they define that.

The report is easy to find. Just London environmental risk assessment.

And I think it's on the nature protection commission's website.

Document center, view, something. I'll send it to everyone. I'll send it to everyone.

Mark in the agenda of the city council under point 1.2.

Two reports were actually created. The one you are probably referring to as a comprehensive environmental test was created, I think, on March 17, 2023. It contained a clear recommendation. I think I talked to John about it.

But there are two of them.

There is also an earlier one. And there are specific recommendations in it that we really should try to make known to the wider public. And actually this is really the responsibility of the state. Do you know if we could somehow put this in the foreground? Once again, I think we all have to check this report and maybe Ray can send us the information for the first report so that we can see through it and discuss it thoroughly. Thirdly, just a short update. There was a meeting with Surface Energy. They actually held a presentation in front of the city council, in which they briefly spoke about a plan to set up a delivery station for citizens near their plant at the northern end of the city for food waste. and they would be responsible for all the costs associated with it. We talked about cameras and waste containers and then the regular emptying. There were some details that I think still have to be worked out exactly where it should be located. Should it be on the site of Purpose or on a urban ground directly behind the gate of Purpose? There were other concerns about materials that are not food waste and get into the containers and how this would affect their ability to convert these food waste into energy. And there were some suggestions on the two sides of what we are doing. But I think it is an interesting development and, to be honest, a merit of the city director that he introduced the idea of composting as part of this new proposal by Purpose Energy to the discussion.

And the last one would be a suggestion to you.

That there is a connection between solid waste and another committee in which I participate. Beautify London, because of course solid waste can lie on the street edge and we can all collect it. And I invite you to join us on Saturday, October 3rd from 9 to 12 o'clock. The starting point is the Matthew Thornton School. And I would be happy to see a good representation of my fellow fighters from the supply unit there to go out on the streets and to experience what many of us hold for the nonplusultra of solid waste, which is thrown away on the edge.

Can you tell me the time again?

9 to 12 o'clock. Saturday, October 3rd.

Did we have a response?

We don't have that. I don't think we talked about the next Saturday, but the one after that, because I think the next one is...

Some event. We'll be on dry weather. Yes, we will. There's nothing worse than collecting garbage in the rain. And by the way, you can pick up garbage on your street on every busy day. That's true. We also have Ray programs for that. Thanks.

Oh, what's all that noise in front of my mouth?

Yes, that happens to you.

Just a second, John. Next comes cable and internet, but I'll make a little digression. Troy, we haven't talked about your recycling video.

Or do you want to discuss it like that? Yes, once. So, Georg and I exchanged ideas about, you know, we're trying to get a video from the supply committee from time to time. So we're working on bringing a recycling video on the way. It's a low-hanging fruit, so to speak, because there's already a lot of information. It's pretty easy. People know each other, you know, people are very familiar with throwing things in the blue bin, mixed up. But we want to spread information so that people do it right. And that's what we're working on. I just sent Jeff a very late, I don't know, I was late, proposal for a conversation that would take about ten minutes. And we're thinking about, you know, showing foils, how to recycle properly, right? And Waste Management has great information on their website because they have a program called Recycle Right. And so we have a lot of information that we want to collect and publish.

Yes, I'm actually really looking forward to it. We have the research for the Klairanlagenanleihe, which we are working on. We have a few articles that we want to write. We have the recycling that we put together. So hopefully we will find a good rhythm for our public work.

You know, if people see an article from the supply committee every month, then people start to think, oh, there's something coming. We'll probably get to see it.

And then it's a question of whether we can ensure that our content is good, that people learn something and that May I clarify one more thing?

Maybe Tristan, if you have the information, to briefly point out that Purpose Energy is coming back to the city council. Is that correct? On the 14th, a public September.

So you come to a public hearing on the commercial industrial tax exemption that you apply for? If you apply for this, you have to specify to what extent the project serves the common good, how it contributes to the common good, and your composting program was listed as one of these points. If the council then accepts and approves the application, these specific examples are determined for the common good in a basic serviceability. So that's serious and you can't just say that you're going to do it and then not, if it doesn't show up, your liberation is at risk. So it's really a documented thing. So it comes on the 14th in front of the city council to a public hearing in September. The next council meeting.

I'll make it very short. Still technical problems with cable failures. Not cable television, but the cable that leads to the people at home. Sometimes they don't even notice it. The cable boxes have some data storage so that you can't see the outputs. However, if you watch a long broadcast or a recorded broadcast, they sometimes just stand still. You have to restart the box.

That still happens.

I will talk to Christian about it. People collect data because people either say, oh John, you're the cable guy from the 80s. Maybe I'm from the 80s. And they look at some of these things and find out that they can call me. So I collect data. I happened to find out that we still have other problems. I knew that this was happening, but it is expressed in some of the newer, smaller units. I can't remember the model number. You have an internal protection when you heat up and overheat. Some people receive a message. Please make sure that your cable TV box has sufficient air circulation. Okay, that's new. Part of the problem is that I have to collect more data. For example, a certain person told me how high your upload and download speeds are on the Internet.

It's terrible.

We had a conversation.

It was just for fun. Everything was blocked.

So I had a download speed of zero and an upload of zero or something like that. So I said hello to Bill Gates, turned it on again. And it worked and I thought really well. And then John ashamed me a little. I don't shame you. I took 60 years to get some of these things in order. But yes, you don't get what you pay for. And that's exactly where I have to collect more data. So it could be a time after the memo to take care of the water things and clear that out of the way and clear that out of the way. It's nice. I can call, I can get people to come up. Or if someone from another district calls me, this guy goes there and I get a notification. We leave the connection with this person for an hour. Do you know that this is not acceptable? You have been in the city for a long time, so you have to either equip yourself. You have a mixture of fiberglass and cardboard. So not like the company you asked me about, they only have fiberglass. So, in work. And yes, if you get such a zero, it means that you have lost your IP address for the box. And she doesn't know how to communicate with it. My computer doesn't know how to communicate with the system. No, your box is basically a server. It's a computer. It's a server. That's why I say to people, use your protection. I mean, yes, I'm doing house visits. And I go in, take my laptop, connect it to a cable box and say, wow, do you know that our new neighbors have a C network that I can see? Please, please use software. Do you know what Edge gives you? Sorry, what Microsoft gives you with Windows Defender? That's the minimum.

It's pretty good.

But of course there are all the others. I'm not going to say who they are, but the new start basically says, hey, I'm here. That's what happens with these long breaks. The connection wasn't stable enough. It doesn't know what to do. So they try to track it. It loses contact and they just sit there. You get neither the menu nor the channel selection displayed and are just stuck. You could wait 15 minutes. I tried it once and about 20 minutes later it worked again. That's a long time. That's a long time. Another quick tip, grab behind the box and pull the plug. You can no longer access the Xfinity Support because the remote control no longer works. The cable box does not react. So just go back and disconnect. Wait 30 seconds.

There is enough capacity.

Capacity.

Capacity to run the box.

So wait about 20 to 30 seconds.

And you will see the logo. Welcome to Comcast. I've seen that a lot.

John, do you believe that the problems lie in the cable boxes and not in the wiring outside the house?

Or the amplifiers? Or do you not know?

No, I know that. It's not because of the wiring. And there could be problems. Some installers have made mistakes. With the connections, there is a method to seal them so that they are tight. When they are brought to the house, it is sometimes ignored. Water drips in, it is corroded and the impedance rises, all those things. But that's usually not the reason. What has happened is, since they started in the 80s, the city has always grown. In addition, the central was moved. The power station, where the satellite dishes and all that used to stand, was moved on the hill to the 102 towards Hatzen. This change in configuration plays a role. We simply have too many users. They don't follow up. And the problem is not just here. It's everywhere in the country in certain areas. And that's a problem. And as I explained to Jeff, cable internet only has a speed How fast. What you buy is like a traffic light red, yellow, even more yellow, whatever. They step you back. It's exactly like with T-Mobile or Verizon, when the data volume is almost used up and they start throttling the speed. Well, the cable company throttles you from the beginning. They don't guarantee it. It's always in their clause. They don't guarantee it. So, you know, I said to Jeff, after he started it again, it was always better. So, uh, at some point I'll just let the city know, hey, if you have problems, let me know. I'll write an article and say, if you have problems, call Comcast. By the way, call your neighbors. If three people in the same street have a problem, they have to provide service within two hours. So I want to post and publish such things. So, yes, it's a thing. It's like water. If something falls out, the cable. Even worse, if the cable falls out, people run through. You can lose the power, but if you have a cable, you are satisfied. So thank you. I took so long. That was it.

All right. All right. Thank you very much.

Uh, conversation round.

Let's start left.

Mr. Breslin. Well, I think I've talked about this in several sessions. And actually, Ron told me about a constant...

Wasser.

Nennen Sie es wie Sie wollen. Kommission in der Stadt London zugestimmt und ob das nun für London zutrifft oder nicht, sollte meiner Meinung nach ein Diskussionsthema sein. Aber wissen Sie, diese Dinge sind fortlaufend. Sie hören nicht auf. Und wissen Sie, wir verlegen Rohre in den Boden, schließen die Leute an. Wir haben immer noch Sorgen wegen des Wassers. Und es ist das Wichtigste für alle. Und

Many people get the control over it.

I think we need to know who has the control over the water that is in the city of London in the ground. Who has the control over it? Is it Payneish Water or someone else? And do we have any right to speak with the water that is in the ground? Most people who use fountain water, and there are still many, have very deep fountains. And they pull the water far out of the ground from the very bottom. And it is so important that we, the city of London, have a certain control over a part of it. We understand that it goes beyond the borders. We understand that. And just because you own a house, you don't own all the water in the ground. Not necessarily. But I think it's very important that we keep that in mind. The reason why I mention a water commission is that with all due respect for what we have here, the city council could decide at any time to dissolve us. That happened in the past and can happen again. I hope that doesn't happen. But if you have a permanent commission, the question can be whether that is a good idea for Lon and Derry, a discussion topic. And that's why we suggested talking to other surrounding cities to see what worked for them or not. Derry, Hudson, Litchfield, pick one.

You can talk to all of them. Because they are all in a similar situation and go through different things.

That's why I think these conversations need to be continued.

I have a question to Raya, actually in general, but shouldn't we get the advice from the council to do that?

I would just like to get started and... Well, no, no, it's up to the council. I misunderstood something. You are the government chairman. You are the government chairman. I just think we should... By the way, we have a representative of the city council with us. I asked him this question and he indicated that he thinks it's a good idea. I haven't heard anything since. You know, we're not going to make this decision.

No, yes, that's a lot of other good ideas. No, if no one does anything with it, it's just another idea.

Therefore, I think that the discussion should continue with other cities. This can be a topic for the discussion with other cities. You know, part of what we do is to ensure that we have contacts with you, but I think that's a valid topic. Can you... And I know we talked about it and I think I saw one of your pages on which the pros and cons and the arguments were listed. I've seen you once. I'm sure you have them, but we can talk about it in the Water Department.

And I don't see any reason why the city council should indicate that we don't have the authority to do so.

And I think we don't set any guidelines. No, no, no. I think, I think that when we talked about it last time, we wanted to put together a specific recommendation from the Water Board, how it would work, how it would differ if there were different levels of performance. We haven't discussed it yet, have we? But then we'll bring it to this board and this board will vote on a recommendation and say, that's our opinion. And then we'll fall a little bit on the formulation and then we would present it to the city and then it would vote on it. That's how I understand it.

I think it's worth a discussion. All right, Jonathan. I have some members of the Energy Committee distributed. I'm just bringing this up because I noticed it as innovative.

The Swiss bring solar panels between the railway tracks throughout the country.

They actually experiment with it.

And now several other countries are also interested in doing the same. The estimate is that this will provide 30% of the energy that they need to drive all trains in Switzerland. And they basically finance it by preventing the solar panels from growing weeds under the tracks. And they don't have to fight weeds. And they have also taken into account that regular maintenance is necessary and that a worker can remove a solar panel in less than 10 minutes to make the whole thing extremely efficient. And I'm only presenting it to the committee, not because we have a lot of trains in Londonderry. But innovation is always interesting, I think. And from efforts on our parking lots and on the roofs of some of our newer buildings and some of our existing urban buildings to hear is a step in the right direction. Not quite the step that the Swiss are currently at, but we will stay a little behind him, but that's okay.

I'm even far behind him.

That's excellent. Can you send me a copy of it? I would like to read it. Linh, if you want, I can write a letter for you about solar energy providers, just so you can write it yourself. Oh, okay. I'll send it to you. I just wanted to ask you about the copy of the letter that I can take home with me.

Not my curiosity, but my creative abilities.

Yes, absolutely. It sounds like we're doing well in public work. I create a calendar. Not a calendar, but a kind of to-do list of articles and videos we work on so that we can go through them. At some point we might want to talk about having a chairman for public work, but I don't know if that has to be a committee, but someone who takes care of the activities. But until we have discussed this as a group, I will take over and make sure that we have a certain frequency and try to bring everyone to it, to contribute to the outreach efforts and to ensure that we

I didn't notice what you said there.

We are making good progress in the work of the public, the communication and the videos and we have a few articles that we want to write. And we briefly talked about writing a monthly article, so a monthly article for the newspaper, right. So I will follow up and we can talk about it every week to make sure or to try that at least once a month something comes from this group, for which we should have enough people to achieve that.

Thank you.

And the Labor Day is just around the corner. Don't forget the long weekend. And don't forget, yes. All right. Short question, Christa. Our friends with the money, the New Hampshire Drinking Water and Groundwater Trust Fund, opened the applications for the Treuhand Fonds on August 5, 2026. Do we have anyone in the office who takes care of that?

Not to apply for funding? Not to apply.

This is a question that we have to clarify when you said, this person in the office, in the office.

Didn't we have someone who took care of all the grant applications and the like?

We don't have a funder. Oh, I thought we had one. No, you see here the people who put together all the grant applications that we put together and the police writes their own. We don't do that and the fire brigade writes their own.

We don't have a funder.

So it started on August 5th? I took part in the short seminar on August 24th. And we only have time until September 24th.

I know that the leadership level is in contact with the management of the NHDS regarding strategy and planning.

Is that something that I, as someone who is willing, could simply design and write

I think this is a strategic level that is currently being dealt with on a political and leadership level. And because these things have to come from... What exactly is the political and leadership level? The matter of city council and administration. The decisions on how to deal with this come from there. It has to come from there.

My next question is, do you even know about it and have you already traded? These are money that you have to apply for. So again, this is part of a larger conversation that Ron and Sean have with the state.

It's about where we are in the priority list, because we only have a limited amount of energy and time, just like the state and only a limited budget. You were all in the room when you told us last year that there was no queue.

You were generous.

Only regarding the application. I know. So, as I said, I cannot answer this question at the moment without further consultation with the council or the city director. I can tell you that I didn't write a support application, I didn't work on this application. We are currently using a massive grant and are allowed to keep the remaining funds, which is a great success.

I know, we are in the public sector.

I remain public.

And I know we have to be politically responsible, because we have already demanded a lot.

We have received a lot. But I still worry that you will never get anything if you don't ask ...

Exactly.

And I say it very directly. I don't agree with you. I will say it directly. I have already written quite comprehensive support applications. Yes. I know the technical details and the reporting that is associated with it. So yes. So that ... I would be annoyed if we didn't apply at least.

So John, it's not that we couldn't write it. It's just that only the people who have the authority to sign it.

Is the council.

Are the council and the administrator. So we are the ones who have to work together. John would write a draft.

It's a bit more technical than that. There are guidelines that you have to follow.

And we have to have a project ready. We have to have a project ready for it. And the council has to agree to the support.

You know, there are currently a number of steps that are part of it.

The council will meet again on the 14th and 21st. And as mentioned, the city administrator is on vacation, so he'll be back on Thursday.

Let me have this conversation with Mr. John and get some information before we move on. Before you, before once again.

The same thing for one and a half years. We had the same conversation for one and a half years.

I know we couldn't consciously. We made a conscious decision not to apply for any money last year because we had this grant. And they were in the same room where they basically said to us, we have already given you a lot of money. We won't give you any more expensive money.

And in order to take up a loan, every loan must be submitted to the voters. There is a lot to think about, because when we have submitted an application and they come back and say, we give you a loan for the whole thing, then we have to go to the Wieners. And go for this loan and ask for this loan. I understand all that.

So is there... I'm honest with you, I'm a little surprised that we still accept subsidies in 2026. I thought they would all be done. Yes, that was a surprise. I got a little signal that notified me.

That is part of the reason why we applied for these two projects with the congress funds. With the idea, and also remember that in Londonderry in a construction season there is only a certain capacity, how much work can be done. You know, we have the Sunny neighborhoods that start next year.

So there's a lot and Penny Truck can handle a limited amount. But as a group, I think we've done a good job. We know which projects have to be done. We know that Penny Truck has helped us and also carried out a few. We still have at least 8 to 12 more to do. And that takes a while. I would now rather agree to draw attention so that it is no longer in processing in two years. Not that we didn't take it seriously. And I know we need the engineers from Penny Truck, as before, to help us.

That's why I say, let me talk to the city director, then I can give him more information. But I hesitate to say again, this is...

I don't like to say that, it overshadows my competence, but it overshadows my decision-making ability. I'm not the person who makes these decisions, but I would like to get an answer from those who do. Does that result in... Of course it does.

Is it F?

Ja, ich verfolge nur das Hin und Her in diesem Gespräch. Und schlage vor... Das ist ja extern.

Das ist okay.

Ich weiß, das ist sie. Nein, nein, ich weiß... Ich schlage nur vor, dass... Falls Sie in Zukunft Hilfe beim Schreiben der Förderanträge benötigen... Ich bin ganz ehrlich zu Ihnen.

Sie machen das normalerweise intern. Ich bin ganz ehrlich zu Ihnen.

Richtig. Aber ich würde gerne dabei helfen... I can't help with this round because I'm away at the end of September and a lot is going on at the beginning of September. But I think there is a tendency, I don't know if that's a New Hampshire thing, but I have people say, hear. People in elected positions say, you know, we really shouldn't, we have to be careful. We don't want to act too greedy when we ask for money. And you know, I have to tell you, because I was active on a national level, nobody in other federal states cares about acting too greedy.

And I'm sure the lady to your right, who has been drinking bottled water for six years, would like you to do that.

So there is nothing wrong with investing in money. And the only way to get this money is to invest in it and push it. I really think this is important to recognize, because this issue of PFAS and PFOA is not just a problem in New Hampshire, as we know. It is not just a problem in the Northeast, as we know. It is not just a problem in the USA, as we know. It is an international problem. And there will be, damn it, many states and communities that are pushing for this money when they need it. So I really don't think that we should hesitate in any way to demand what we need. If you don't ask, you won't get it.

Wenn du ein berechtigtes Anliegen hast, ist es kein Problem, danach zu fragen.

Genau.

Und ich wünsche, das wäre so einfach.

Wir haben ein absolut berechtigtes Anliegen. Und dieser Staat leidet schon lange unter diesem Problem. Und unsere Abgeordneten wissen das. Und unsere Senatoren wissen das. Und die Leute, die derzeit für ein Amt kandidieren, wissen das auch.

But most people talk about it. On both sides of the political spectrum.

So let's use this interest and this attention. I'm finished. This protest.

Yes, I agree with Danny. The worst thing they can say is no. And if they say no, you haven't lost anything, except that I asked them. You're wasting your time. That's what kept me from it. That's why practitioners are there. You're hiring practitioners. I'm a practitioner. So you mean I should support Christians in this? If you look at the support criteria, you know that you can't meet them. You still invest a lot of time, effort and creativity, as well as research and work to submit a grant, in my opinion, where you have a chance of at least 1 to 3, so that it is worth it. Yes, you definitely have to invest resources.

It's half an hour after my bedtime. I'm fine.

How was your first day at school?

It was great. It was great. It was great. I had four. My child had one. And no, two. With two.

Are there any news from school that we should know about?

Any excitement at school.

Kids are looking forward to being there again.

And you know, I have to say, it's great to see our high school students as high school teachers. They are just phenomenal children. So yes. Good news. Good things.

Public round table. Oh, do you want a round table with us?

It's half an hour after my bedtime. Kisses.

I'm fine. I talk a lot here.

Public comment.

Since there are no more questions, the next session is on Tuesday, October 6th according to MARTA 2020. I take the application for application. Michael Spelz makes the application. Second. Doyle Fragomiller. All for it. The chairman agrees with.

Yes.

My first session as chairman.