Planning Board - Regular Meeting

I will convene the meeting of the Planification Council of Lunenburg for August 5, 2026. I would like to ask everyone to stand up and swear allegiance to the American flag. I swear allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and the Republic of America, the Republic of the United States of America. and I will nominate Brett to vote for Jake and we have seven voting members this is the quorum and we can proceed The first point in absolute of the work of the Board of Directors are the verbal of the meetings of the 8th of July, 2026. I hope everyone has read them. If someone has a comment or something, let me know. Otherwise, I will present a motion to accept the verbals as they have been presented. Anyone else? Tony's motion. One second.

Second. Let's see. So, ok, it's a motion by Tony.

What was the date? 8th of July.

I have to hold on. There is none.

Is it true? I have to withdraw my motion. I'm sorry. My apologies.

Okay, so... You want to do a motion? All those in favor say so, saying yes. So no, you're still a member, Otomany. You know that, I understand. There is a dental extension and... U the verbs are U6 approved and U with U6 U01 and we have chosen another member so now we have 8 voting members Hi it's John The verbs are approved U I would like to change the order of things Let's go back to the old questions which is a formal question of a regulatory plan for 60 residential units with relative improvements of the site, together with a conditional use permit for 597 square feet of impact of wet area in the commercial area C2 and in the superimposition district of the performance of Route 28-196-198 Rockingham Road, tax map 15, lots 66 and 66 A1. SNS Metal Recycling Incorporated as owner and Gino Bernard as applicant and they asked for an extension until October 14th. So I will present a motion for ... So motion. Supported. Supported by Tom. Supported by John. There are discussions from the Council. Not seeing any, all those in favor indicate by saying yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes.

All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes.

All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. All those who are against say yes. We arrive at 8.00. So the motion is approved. I just want to inform the public officially that this new plan that is in progress will continue here on October 14, 2026 at 7 p.m. in this headquarters. And this is your only warning? This is your only warning. There are no other options.

Thank you Tony.

Tony helps me now. He had to live with me on this chair. So, ok, there are other work of the Board of Directors.

Mr. President and members of the Board, in your package there should be three extension requests. The first is for 36 Peaseberry Road. They require an extension of 120 days. In your package there should be a letter from the lawyer Gandia of Divine Millimet.

Remember that 36 Peasebury Road is the proposal of Procopio. It is 250 single-family homes in cottage style with courtyard together with the relative improvements of the site, always located in 36 Peasebury Road, D.A.

They require an extension of 120 days. Ok, this brings us to December.

Yes, on December 4th. On December 4th, ok. I will make a motion to continue with those two requests. So motion. Will you accept them? Both March.

Yes, will you accept them both? Yes, I will accept them both. Both. Both have 120 days. Exactly.

They have time until December 4th, for when and when they must be presented. So John's motion, supported by Gianni.

Just to clarify again, just for a verbal question. So this is for 3644 Peasebury Road, which at the moment are two separate lots. We are doing the same motion for both. Those two separate fights, all of them, right now... Map 10, 842 on the map 10. 10 fights. What did you say? 815 and 842 on the map 10, so we're both doing them. At the same time, right now... We have a motion and a second.

They already did the motion. Geni did the second. There are other discussions. Not seeing all those who are in favor, they indicate by saying yes. Those who are against say no. Proposals. And the President votes in favor. This brings 800 and more.

Proposal request to the President and members of the Council. In its package there should be a request of the new lawyer Gandia of the Divine Millimet for Max Apples at 230 Mammoth Road, map 6, lot 21. If you remember, it was a plan for the restructuring of an existing building to add a restaurant and a parking lot to support the agritourism activity at 230 Mammoth Road. Gendy asks for an extension of one year to meet the conditions of the approval based on the node dated 8 April. So this puts the extension on August 6, 2027. August 6, ok. I have a motion for an extension.

The word is Tony's motion. He heard another second. Ok, Jonathan. Jonathan's support. Are there any discussions on the extension request? Not seeing any, all those in favor say yes. All those against say yes. And the president votes in favor and the extension request has been granted.

The derogation. Now we are only dealing with the extension.

So their request was divided into two parts. One the extension and the other is for the other request. Is there anything else from the stop part? No, it's you. Advice. Let's proceed. New plans and conceptual plans? Public hearing for a formal request to be submitted. By the President, general and subsequent conditions to allow the applicant to start internal and external work on the existing building before obtaining the signatures of the Planning Council in the Agricultural Residential District 1, IR 1, 230 A Mammoth Road, Tax Map 6, Lot 21 MHO Acquisition LLC and the owner and the applicant. and we have received the letter from lawyer Gandia EU there is no other formal acceptance because this is a rebuttal yes this is just a rebuttal so we have to deal with a site plan previously approved with reserve

Good evening, my name is Laura Gandia. I am a lawyer at the Vine Millimetre & Branch studio in Manchester, New Hampshire, representing MaxApples. Here with me tonight is Kyle Christiansen, one of the members of MHO Acquisition, owner of the property. So thank you for granting our extension request. We have another request in front of you, and it is an extension to the approval conditions to allow MaxApples to perform some limited work inside and outside the building. So we expect a slightly longer process to obtain the approval of the plans, based on the approval from the State, in collaboration with ENECDOT, but we are trying to anticipate our construction program. So we ask this Council to allow us to perform limited work inside and outside the building. We believe that some of these works do not require the approval of the Council. It would be ordinary maintenance, such as the placement of a new roof, the tinting, but we are trying to be good neighbors, to be transparent, to present ourselves in front of you to let you know that we are doing this to obtain your approval. I spoke to the building inspector on the phone and we communicated via email and he agreed with the general consensus that the limited works inside and outside the building could be considered ordinary maintenance. But once again, we wanted to be transparent and talk to him first. Come to you. We have communicated with the municipal staff exactly what we want to do. Again, it is roof, coatings, windows, tinting, hydraulic and electrical work. And we know that this is a risk for us. Are we willing to accept such a risk? and I say that it is risky because we know that if we don't sign the projects we will lose money because we won't be able to proceed with the opening of the restaurant. And we understand that, but we are willing to go on and ask for the approval of this advice to do it.

This is something for which we are relatively new because I don't remember anything like this in all my years here. But if it's just, I don't know, could you describe a little more what you want to do outside? The inside is not our competence to tell you what to do or anything else, but it is part of obtaining the planimetry of the site and also of the SIO from the inspector and ILE.

So there will be no jobs in place. So we will not move land or dirt in any way in the site. Kyle, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think your improvements also concern the building that needs a new roof. Do we want to put a new roof? We want to put windows, new windows in the building on the back. And I don't think any of the improvements will be visible from the road. So it will only be the windows along the sides and those on the back. I think we should paint maybe a new outer coating. Is something else missing?

It would be the basic entity of the works outside the building.

I will ask the person to provide any contribution, then to the council and then to the public for comments.

I certainly talked to John and Nick from the Department of ILE and it went well until it was just a building and I think Laura described it perfectly. In addition, I had recommended that, since this is a request of derogation from the next general condition, it was limited to the number one of those conditions. And I'm not sure that lawyer Ghandi would agree with me or not on this. but construction or site planning work cannot be undertaken until a pre-construction meeting is held with the municipal staff, the presentation of the permit and the publication of the financial guarantee for the restoration of the site. I don't know how to say it, with the city. However, the rest of those general and subsequent conditions, I think, do not concern this request with the permission to build, but I thought that number one would do it. And so I think that was the specific delivery that this group should have taken into consideration. Can I ask if you agree? Hmm, I wasn't sure what he was talking about. Indeed, the Promemoria. So the position of the city is that they will grant the derogation, but they want the requirer to meet John for a pre-construction meeting. No, no, no. Only because we are not talking about any construction or site planning. I understand. So we are talking about the permit to build. So I'm inserting the permit to build within the scope of the building aspect of this. So you're asking for a grant for this. I understand. And of course we will proceed by referring to Nic for all the construction permits. Will we only go with the Edile department? Yes. Thank you.

Yes, I'll start with Yann and then I'll go on.

I agree.

Yes, I agree. I'm curious to know...

I imagine if they are doing internal training and things like that, why should they come here?

Anyway, we only care about the external, you know, the site... What's on the...

But, anyway, I agree.

Yes, but how do you get... I understood the sequence, the staff needs to help me with this, please. The sequence of how to obtain a permit on a planimetry is not... Approved. You don't have, you don't have, as you can, as you can, the department... Edile, Inspector Edile.

It doesn't exist. You know...

Well, there's a bit of gray here, I think, because I think that what we heard is that if had not come, let's say, for the planimetry of the site and had only wanted to make the roof or restructure the interiors, they would have gone to the department and ILE. But since they came here for a planimetry that described all these different types of improvements, the setting up of the restaurant, I think it is for this that the applicant said we want it to be clean, since we have this requirement of the absence of construction work or site planning, we know that there will be no site planning work. It will only be a building permit. But since there is a bit of gray there, we want to make sure that everything is very clear, that now we will eliminate it only for the improvements of the building. That's why, and we recognize that it is their risk, we say that they adapt it for the restaurant, so they improve their kitchens or anything they do for this, right? And we won't see them. I think it's their risk. They recognize it. And in a year, when they want to come back, you know, they will have gone through all these different conditions here. And then, once all this happens, then they will be able to get their CEO and all that follow up stuff. Yes, I missed something.

They can fix the interior of the building, they call it a restaurant because it is what it will be. And the only thing that will happen is that they will not be able to obtain a housing certificate because they have not satisfied any of the other conditions that we have imposed on that property.

I have not heard that they want to do any kind of arrangement for the restaurant with windows, roof.

Well, we... No, I want to clarify that we do it.

It's not what the letter says.

But no, we want to do it.

It says they want to fix the restaurant, right?

I imagine that the building permit includes... The improvements to the building.

You're talking about a kit, a commercial kitchen, the caps, the anti-fire systems, all those things. a couple of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stuff and then you'll come back here in a year and say, well, we have difficulties because we spent all this money we need our CO2 when none of the other things have been done

And if I did, I think you would be right to say, at such and such a date, this hearing of the urban commission, you understood and verbally declared to understand the risk associated with money investment in a project, in a project. And you can't proceed with obtaining the housing certificate until you have signed the plan, you have not turned to the city staff to do it. You have all the permits in place.

And you said exactly what I needed you to say for the registration. I did it. We are registered. I understand.

And so this was my fear because it is not unusual that this happens for a candidate who returns to this council and suddenly finds himself in difficulty for whatever reason.

So my only other thing, Mr. President, if you can entertain me, please. My only other thing is that you need a year to do all this. It's not a year for the installation.

It's not a year for a new sex system if it's what someone decides you need, which is out of our control. It's not a year. Why does it take a year?

We took a year to see one to save my client the time and the expense of having to do it again if necessary. And the second reason is because he is opening a restaurant and, as you well know, there are permits and inspections that must be made through the state, so there is an overlap there. There are some improvements that this advice wants us to add to the list, I believe on your suggestion, which I think will require further coordination with Enexidot. And these things take time. Here's what they are. We hope we won't need another year. I don't think we'll need it, but that's why we asked for it.

So, so, so, it's fine the same way. So, in a year, you come back and you know everything, and then you can start the next conditions, because you have to come back here again to get it, okay? To do the dialect and the sterro and all that kind of stuff, right?

No. My interpretation is no. What we should do is meet the previous conditions to obtain the signing of the plan. The plan would be presented to the Council to be signed and this would mean that we have met all those conditions and, you know, we have them all. As you know, we will meet them all and the following general conditions There is not much that would require coordination with public works and the municipal staff to ensure that any work in place that we are doing, correct me if I'm wrong, any work in place that we are doing, we are doing it in the right way, we are doing it in the way the city wants us to do it and according to the city regulations.

So all the conditions that we have established are there. If they want to change them like this, they have to come back for an audience, for a presentation. Okay, I'll give other people a chance.

Well, John.

Well, so point one. Niente costruzione.

Ciò significa niente costruzione, giusto?

Niente costruzione esterna.

Dice che non si possono intraprendere lavori di costruzione di cantiere finché non si è tenuta la riunione pre-costruzione con lo staff della Cifra. Non dice interno, non dice esterno, non dice niente costruzione.

Bene, è per questo che c'è una richiesta di deroga. Perché c'è un po' di grigio lì. Quindi non poteva.

Grigio male.

Ma il grigio è grigio capita. E penso che...

So it is a permission not to build?

This is a construction permit that they would like to obtain. So the term construction is as if you were going to ask for a construction permit if you were going to rebuild the roof and you asked for a construction permit, it is considered construction. Because in general this commission examines the works in place and then it is called construction. But since there is a bit of gray and you are right, says construction, so that's why there is the request for a derogation.

So, as part of the request for a derogation, they ask not to hold the meeting of construction because there is no construction.

I don't know what you're asking. They are asking for a derogation from number 1, Niente Costruzione, or... I'm waiting. Niente Costruzione.

I'm saying no. I'm saying they have to hold the meeting because they will do construction work. What will they do? Can they have... They can do whatever they want. They will put windows, doors, a roof. They will do work on internal restructuring and everything else. I'm saying it's fine. Why can't they meet you so you know what's going on? So they would have met Nick, the Dile office. So, it won't be with you, it will be with Nick.

You with Nick.

This you with Oxabella.

Nothing. Bye. It's fine with me. Some of us or any member of the audience has questions, comments or doubts about this request of derogation. I do not see anyone who can report it to the council and we have the motion recommended in front of us that the planning council votes to approve the request of 230 memot road tax map 6 lot 21 for the indemnity to provide limited improvements inside and outside the building and I think that the transcription of what has been discussed is part of it so proposed One second. Jonathan. According to Jonathan, there are other discussions. Not seeing all those who are in favor, they indicate by saying yes. All those who are against say no. There are abstentions. The president votes in favor and the appeal has been granted. The motion is 8-0-0. Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

well now we have a public hearing for a formal question of a site plan for a warehouse of 105 thousand square feet and improvements associated in the industrial zone and 1 is the number 12 jacksbridge road tax map 15 803 1 12 jacksbridge road lc is required and charles h evans is the owner and this is a

Minimum completeness. Yes, Mr. President, members of the Council, there are some suspicions on the control list. Most of them are authorization letters for the users. Let's see.

Electricity, telephone and gas.

Also the authorization letter for the sanitary supply in the project. The other missing element was the copy of the A question to the Department of Environmental Services of New Hampshire for the permission to modify the land. So, first of all, again, it is necessary to act on the acceptance. And also requires a derogation to the only ends of the acceptance with current date. Again from lawyer Yendol. Requiring again to derogate those specific elements to the only ends of the acceptance.

Okay, I will accept a motion from the council to defer to section 3.05 to the only ends of the acceptance. And this would accept the question as complete. Resumption. Jonathan's resumption. One second. Second. Jung's second. There is some discussion about the acceptance. Not seeing any, all those in favor indicate by saying. All those who are against. The president's sanction was affirmative and the question was accepted as a complete one. And we can proceed. We have a 65-day window to pronounce ourselves on this and this requires the opportunity to make a presentation. Ok, who's doing? Oh, Laura. Don't worry. You can take a chair and sit around the table. You can sit on the desk.

There are two microphones. It works.

I have to keep making that noise. Yeah, stop touching it. Yeah, I'm trying to get rid of stuff. There's too much stuff here and I can't see the audience the way I want.

You're old, you shouldn't touch computers. Said the guy with the gray hair.

It's not gray.

Good, white. All right, all right, all right, white. Go with the white.

Guys, I know what you said. Let me go to my office.

Where do I send it? I don't know. Tom, do you want me to send you a message?

Maybe from the computer at work. Try to send me a message. I don't know. I think it's actually on the... So, okay.

Let me... That's why. Let me see.

Let's see...

So, how did you go to the police station? Go to the police station. What happened to the friend? It's a fishing accident. The etiquette is in the wrong place, right?

He made my finger, my hand was definitely in the wrong place. For the week of the bears.

We have. We also saw a bear out there. We were fishing by train for the striper, he got stuck in a three-point line.

And he did exactly what he had to do. He got stuck in the car. So?

So he had to cut the ends and then pull it to the other side.

Actually the boat was moving, so very slowly, maybe one or two knots, but it passed without problems. So it was one of those... you know, one of those observation movements. You say... Yes. One second. Yes. We have to go to the hospital. Yes, we will need a pressure right away.

So, you know, if I were in our house to do gardening, I would be...

So my wife reminded me. My wife reminded me. Yes, we wrapped it with the adhesive tape as a painter, so it was for about 6 hours. A successful recovery. No, I'll be fine. I needed 20 points and I'll be fine. Don't worry. It's just that when you have to do it... Oh yeah, I have a question. It's just that when you have to wrap it around.

It's one of those things that you take off and you think you don't want to look at it.

But... we'll be fine.

If you fish enough, you'll end up stuck. It will happen. I got myself a scar on the head because of that.

I wish it was one of those that I just had to put in my ear, but instead I took my hand away.

You learn from this, Tony? Yes, you're right. Fortunately, it's one more time that I have.

Tony, it's just one time.

Yes, it was the last time you went there.

I'll take a break for a while. So, can we let him start talking while we wait?

I think so. I think they can start verbally. I don't know what the protocol is. Yes, it must be here. I'll do it, it doesn't have to be here. Well, let the presentation begin. Ok Laura, you introduced us. They're all like, you know, most of them will probably stay here, most of them won't. So Silvia is the substitute for us. So she's basically a substitute, she tries to do everything.

She's already been here before, but you know, she hasn't been here for a while, so she's doing her best. But things happen, so I'm sorry.

She has just retired as executive director of Southern New Hampshire Planning, so I have... Silvia is very expert.

Very good. I was telling Tyler everything about Silvia.

She is also a civil engineer, so... She is fantastic.

And now can I take a picture?

Are you ready? So, good evening. My name is Laura Gandy and I am a lawyer at Divine Millimetre and Branch in Manchester and I am here to represent the current Byland LLC and tonight with me is Tyler Murphy who is a member of the LLC. We also have members of the VHB team and this is Richard Whitehouse who is responsible for the responsible project and Christine Chartres Triarchus. who is a traffic engineer and they were both here to answer the questions and provide information on the engineering component and the traffic of the project. We appreciate that the council has granted our request to be submitted only at the end of acceptance. We know that these will become conditions of approval and we also know that the city staff recommends the continuation of this project We have five request requests that we will also examine with the council. We do not disagree with the engineering request of the city, but we believe that such elements can be addressed adequately with the city staff and the applicant. We are trying to make sure that such elements become approval conditions and we are looking for the approval conditioned by this council this evening. So, having said that, I give the floor to Tyler.

So, my name is Tyler Murphy, I'm the requestor of the BylandLC project I have already been in front of this advice a couple of times, so the first was 26 Jax Bridge Road, which has now been completely rented recently, which is great And also 13 Page Road, which has been completely rented since the beginning And I think both of those projects have been a good addition to the city and the tenants have worked well So it is worth noting that we have been here a couple of times and this dates back to 2020-2021. So this is the third project I have in front of me, similar for industrial use in the same area. From here we were about to enter into some of the photographic things in terms of position, but I can at least talk to myself before starting. So, 12 Jax Bridge. This is in Jax Bridge, a commercial park. This is basically on the road on the right on the 93 side and it is just before Penske and after Penske there is 26 Jax Bridge that I did a couple of years ago. So basically it borders with the other side. Not to continue to mention that project but it is incredibly similar. The 26 Jax Bridge was 99 square meters, this is 9000. They are almost identical in height, shape, length, width, etc. This is a bit more of a parking lot. But in general they are very very similar projects and both run around the internet. So it is worth noting that in case someone is familiar with the project, he has seen that this is very very very similar. I'll probably stop here. Let's see if we have it. Where are you now?

I put it on the table where is it? strange I don't know what to say

I have a computer. I don't know if it's that easy to connect them.

Why isn't it here?

Let's all look at this giant monitor. I know, it's like the cinema scope here. Incredible. But this is not the presentation. Did you still have instructions on how to use it? I tried a little.

It is the planimetry that was sent to us via e-mail

Yes, because it is only a contribution of the staff. A presentation. I think we can do it. At least you can use it to show us something, right? I mean that we have all the information.

Yes, God sent it to us, it's quite late.

Yes, it's not so nice, but we can definitely explain it to you. We just tried to simplify some things a bit. There is a lot of information on panmetry, so we just tried to simplify it a bit. We can definitely examine it. It's not a problem.

Yes, maybe while it's still dry. Let's keep talking.

So I think that maybe another thing that we could do in the absence of something in front of us for a second here. Obviously I think everyone understands the position, but I'm happy to answer questions. I made a preview just to show you the activities, the things that surround us. Then we will quickly move on to the requests for delivery. We can talk about it.

Dan, do you want the last one?

Those are the last of ours, probably. I'll do it.

So, we have five request requests to submit to the attention of the Council for tonight and I will examine them one by one. The first is a request request from section 308 B3. The access points should not be positioned at less than 200 feet from each other on the same side of the road. So, if you look at the site's planimetry, you will see the south road at the corner of the 8th to the south and you will see an area of service for access to the road. So these are the two access points that are closer to 200, so they are at 104.9 feet instead of the city needs 200 for the access points and I believe that the intent is to create double-sensory roads, not a road of service access to the road that will be used only for maintenance and services. So this is the first request from Deroga.

we can stop for a moment, it is also worth noting that you think that people may be familiar with the high-power transmission lines that cross that slope that road goes back into that slope and it is actually a shared road for service both for the transmission lines and for the road signage so if you passed in front you would see a kind of dirt road that is there and then our entrance to the site which in reality is almost similar to the entrance that there is if you passed us today they are more or less at the same point it's just that the other one is not there Simply, it is not a road that is used frequently. It needs the transmission lines, potentially the seal, if necessary. And so the reason why we are at the request of delivery is due to the fact that, having two nearby roads used frequently, we can understand the concern, but it is a service road to be used only on the basis of needs. And it still exists today. The staff in favor of that particular request of delivery

The next request is from section 3.08b6, according to which the width of any roadway, except for the tracks for section 308, must not exceed 24 feet. The urban planning commission can specifically approve an exception that does not exceed 36 feet. Therefore, we are looking for a width of the road more than 24 feet. This is an industrial warehouse site, so in general we see this request. This Commission generally sees this request to allow a greater width of the road for the access of industrial trucks.

In general, this is an exception that the Commission can make as part of the approval of the project.

The next one is from section 4.12.g.4. The plan of the existing conditions must show that the following measures of boundaries have been found and must be set. There is a monument that would be placed in the wet areas. Wet? So we ask to be exempted from having to place a monument in the wet areas.

The staff also favors this in consideration of its position.

The next request for derogation is section 309g.11.i, the minimum dimensions. For industrial cargo spaces, they must be 14 feet wide and 48 feet long. We ask for a position for the cargo bench of 13.5 x 60 cm and, again, this is based on the operation of the existing warehouse structures, which is satisfactory for design delivery vehicles.

So these are all the loads on the back of the building that are delimited and assigned to the loading benches as they are put into use. 13.5 x 60 is a kind of standard of the sector for some of these things, so it's just a little different from some of the citizens' regulations, but once again in line with what I did with the 26 Jaxbree. Personnel supports.

The final measurement, the request for delivery, is from section 4.12 c 19, which is the plan of the existing conditions, indicates trees with a diameter of 15 inches. We ask to be exempted from this, since it would be unreasonable to examine all the trees with a diameter greater than 15 inches, given the quality, I mean, given the quantity and the predominantly woodland nature of the site. The site clearly identifies the borderline of the forest and which areas will not be disturbed.

Fortunately, Cynthia has moved away from Silvia and has some concerns about it. In the personnel's note at the bottom of page 3d7, again his concern was that the demand was the same, influencing the existing grassland and the line of trees along much of the perimeter of this proposed site, and to a large extent he relied on the existing vegetation on the property in grass or on the margins of the property's border line in the line of the wet areas of the grassland. The truck traffic of the warehouse of 105,000 square feet and the parking lot, again as indicated, the load bays must not be positioned on the sides of the building facing a public service except for specific approval. Where such an exception is granted, the council will require the screening in the most effective way possible. It should be noted that the I-93 is a significant public service. Therefore, once again, I recommend that the Council take into account the possibility of granting a partial grant for the areas of disturbance, but that along the planned border of the construction, the applicant will sign all trees of the same or higher diameter of 15 inches to be saved so that the protection plan of the trees can be implemented. In addition, the applicant must provide details on how the trees will be saved. I know that there are some concerns about the layout of the back of the building along the 93. Again, they rely on the vegetation and the vegetation is actually outside, within the public service.

Is it a concern of the Commission for Heritage also the lack of layout on the back?

So if you remember, at the 26th of Jack's Bridge they had done a nice pictorial work Yes, what you could see from 1993 So I still think that this is something that the staff would recommend to do again and again for the concern about the buffer

for the taste of analyzing it because there are many comments here I think that from our point of view we should only insert the three I know that Silvi is not here so I'll keep the third one for when he comes back I think that the first request is that between the limits of existing work we ask for a derogation so as not to sign the trees within the limits of existing work, right? so this is a part and I think it is something that has been demonstrated that has generally been demonstrated in the past, yes in the decision of the council The second aspect that I think John has just mentioned is the screen from the right of passage, which also goes into this, but I just want to separate the trees from the limits of work. From the trees outside the limits of work. So now we are talking about trees outside the limits of work on which we rely, as a potential screen. I think the feeling of the city and, as you know, of the heritage commission could not be enough. So, having said that, we are happy to bring an amendment. Did it remind you of how to do these things? But basically to duplicate the receipt of the 26 jacks bridge, because I think it makes sense. Honestly, they are almost exactly the same conditions. In reality, we are more behind compared to the highway, but it is a very very similar condition to face the problem of the layout. And then the third aspect, we are talking about the trees in the marking of 15 inches in diameter. So we were just talking about trees within the working limit. I'm talking about trees outside the working limit. The last part of the request concerns the marking of trees with a diameter of 15 inches or higher than outside the working limit. of work and so our request is that obviously this site must have a formal control of the erosion it must be monitored by the SWIFT it is also something for which the developers pay and want to make sure that it is carried out by their general contractors it is a service for which we pay for maintenance I think what we were about to ask if it makes sense is that it has not allowed us to disturb anything outside the working limit. It could be 8 inches, 7 inches, 15 inches. However, if we are delimiting the site and the working limit and we bump into a 15-inch tree or more, our advice is to write it, I'll leave it to you how to do it with the sweep and all the rest, and to ensure that that tree is kept outside the working limit, which means that if we are tracing the line and this is the tree, we move it outside the working limit. it's a pretty big site to be able to move the working limit of a pair of feet in one way or another to protect the trees in that way but I think that the point is that to assign all the trees outside the working limit seems a bit useless because it did not allow us to touch any tree outside the working limit or outside the working limit independently from the dimensions that's why the working limit exists we respect it we keep it because we pay for it because we pay for it so these are actually the three parts and if I said something wrong correct me but it's a three-part thing not just to make it a little clearer so to clarify the request for derogation I think that originally it was obtained for the inside of the working limit and then these two additional comments were added in which we are willing to provide a screening on the back an informal screening representative of what is found in the 26d jacks breed and then of course you heard my comment on the voices of the working limits

if I can comment. So my concern was not that they were contracting each tree outside their working limit. So that's not what I meant and I apologize if my communication was not quite clear. We know that this is a very large site, there will be many deforestation operations. And I was worried because I thought it was a requirement. I take that cushion areas seriously. I have many conversations with people who come to our office and are concerned about the cushion areas. So my concern was because exactly what I think the Lord has commanded is quite reasonable. I think it surpasses the reasonableness test. It is precisely in that, you know, in that kind of interval in which that construction is found and if they find something of 15 inches or more to occupy themselves with. And I would like this to be marked on the planimetry and that there was a detailed detail of a sort of construction. Recently, walking in my neighborhood, I saw that, you know, this was a condominium, but they took great care to save the largest trees with a kind of construction of bricks or blocks of cement around the base of the tree to save it. I'm not asking specifically, but I think there are some details on how to save the trees along that edge of the building so that there is a sort of natural cushion if you want. And also to reconsider their plan. We all drive on that highway. I imagine we all do and the last thing anyone would want are the headlights. You know, while you walk that stretch of road, I think that cushion is really important. By the way, to update everyone, I don't have access to this particular network that is in this room. Everything is done before I get here, everything that is uploaded. Unfortunately, that particular presentation, I think, was sent via email a little later during the day and was not taken into account by the staff. So I ended up sending it via email to Sean who is trying to help us. So this is the update.

Are you doing a little work in the desk?

Well, I have to say that we are about to go over the non-graphic elements. So this has been, in a sense, the end of the request to submit. The five, the five that were there. I think from one to four they are relatively simple, but you know, five.

We clearly need 5 per hour until we can implement them. It was easy.

I still have a question about the number 1 from John, which concerns the fognia.

Again, this is not a good idea.

Ok, yes.

So I will make a motion to approve the derogations contained in the bill dated today, August 5, for derogation number 2, derogation number 3, derogation number 3 and derogation number 4.

Proposed by John. Another proposed by John. Approved. Supported by Otani. Is there any discussion on the part of the Council? Not seeing any of them, all those who are in favor say yes. Yes. All those who are against say no. Since it seems affirmative and the derogations from 1 to 4 have been granted 8-0-0.

I believe that for derogation number 5 it is recommended a partial derogation.

I think that what ... Are we doing this? No, simply, they are not acting on Silvia's merit. Ok. So that we can solve the issue a little better. Thank you. So, the next slide, can we talk about it? I mean, if we have the time, we can continue for a while, I think, here. These are the current conditions of the site, which we will talk about later. So, the current conditions of the site, the site is 11.9 Acre. about an acre of wet areas in the back. We went to the conservation commission and the entire development will remain outside the wet areas and the cushion area of the wet areas. They examined the issue. So we are not having repercussions on the wet areas or on the cushion area, but I want to emphasize that there are areas on the site. They are large in size, it is an acre, but it is also a very large site of almost 12 acres, but we are not having them. And the issue has still been presented to the conservation commission. They also agreed with it.

for the presentation. The plan has not changed since then.

The current conditions of the site are about four disembarked acres, which remain only as land for lack of a better term, and gravel on the site. In the last two years it has been used as a temporary deposit. For example, more recently, when the transmission lines have been repaired, the people who repaired them have deposited all their equipment there for a period of nine months and have repaired the transmission lines, etc. so it was a bit of a passenger use but basically it was used for storage and storage there is no active activity you know I guess there is a permanent activity in progress so it was just a continuation of various use areas of storage and storage in the last two years the rest of the site is currently wooded and has a nice downgrade on the back towards the 93 Apart from this, the site has never been developed, at least our knowledge, in our research. So it has been modified over time, filled, filled again, excavated, but no permanent structure has ever existed on the site, at least up to this point. And this is the current panorama of the site, but as I said it is about 11-9 years old.

The second thing that was discussed at the audience meeting were the stone walls. The stone walls are on that site and I think that knowing that they will be disturbed during work if that stone can be used as part of the landscape aesthetic and I think it has been said that the wall of containment on the Saudi early drive could be in stone but it would be ... I think it would depend on you, you know, but at least Use the stone on the site in a place that is exactly the right place.

This is Salvelli Drive and the entire south facade is basically what you see on the street. So we will try to take a little of that stone and use it in those scenic areas where you actually get a certain visual appeal, whether you are driving or actually entering the office area of ​​the site. This is the main access point where you will have the maximum visibility for a monumental sign a little further ahead. So this is the visual point of the site for which we want to try to use those stones and we will incorporate them in the landscape. I must say that it is worth noting that, obviously, we live in a very ancient area of New England, but these stone walls are not the ones you usually see, the ones that cross the beautiful fields in front of the road. They are very low, far away, hidden behind the trees. So, uh, they are there, but I would like to at least clarify the advice that these are not some of the things you will see in historical districts and things like that.

But there are! There is nothing beautiful in them, you know, aesthetically, but they are a stone wall and can be used for various purposes, usually decorative. And so we will do it and we certainly understood that comment. But only for the good of the people who understand it. It happened to us that some of our stones from the stone wall have been stolen. Really?

Interesting. I don't know if there is a price for a stone of a stone wall or not.

And if you search on Google, because they are there, you will find about 6 different answers. It's pretty incredible. It seems that no one is going to agree on why we are here. People say that for the farms, for the cows, for the boundaries of the properties, for all kinds of different things.

Let's dig a little more. There are a lot of stones.

But my personal experience with gardening is that you want to move the rocks, but you know, not too far. Are we able to? I want to.

Pierre has done two projects here in the city. In a way, he understands us. Yes, yes, and yes, no, and I think, I think, I don't know, I think the good thing is that if God wants, no one has ever heard of those projects since they have been completed. It's always the habit. If you approve a project and hear about it again, it's... No, you don't hear about it. This is the problem.

Yes, the whole commission didn't think that the building project would go well.

we will continue anyway but tried to do it does not work because I have it here on the screen or not we should simply ask our questions let everyone go home if I will do it and I will simply ask yes yes yes this is a bit like one because we do not do it let's just say that then it will come back anyway some suggestions about it and then

I will examine everything. I saw the review on the back of the upper building you were talking about and I think it's cute. It had that screen on top like a stone wall. And I thought it looked fantastic since 1993. Yes, that's what we think, based on report 5, this will probably be the part of the development.

It's simply in direct contrast with one of his neighbors.

Yes, so what I was saying is that let's try to do the same thing, this would be part of our convent for the delivery of our convent 5. And I don't want to repeat 26 Jax Bridge more and more times because they are so similar that it is difficult not to continue to mention it. Ok. It works. It's just a visual thing, so.

What is the screen made of?

It's actually a chainstay review with some black plastic sticks that are made to slip behind them. So they are made of black chainstay and then they are braided. We don't want to do a lot of s**t. We are here.

No, don't copy. You don't have to copy. We agree and we will continue anyway with the plan, so it's fine.

So, having said that, in terms of visual elements that I will try to explain, I don't think we need to talk about management. Rainwater, as much as I don't want to see or hear sounds. That's why I think the piano is useful. Obviously, the management of the rainwater has been carefully examined and meets all standards. We have two surface basins and then an underground basin, which I am sure the advice is used to see the plastic, the elements that are under the level of the soil, but we can show it next time. The lighting of the site was professionally designed by Apex Lighting, ensuring that the footcandles go down to 0.0 where necessary, so that there are no losses of light from the site. We have also included images of how our lights appear mounted on the deck and the lights mounted on the wall in our presentation and... But I repeat, these are things that can always be used. I think it's worth talking about something that is not a visual element, as I am about to say now, so the management of the rainwater, the lighting of the site, the traffic.

I was just about to suggest. We don't need the positive media to talk.

Good. My name is Christine Triarchis, I am a traffic engineer at VHB and I would like to briefly illustrate the analysis of traffic and the subsequent process of fair review and updated analysis that we conducted. We started the analysis of traffic with a meeting to define the scope of the city at the beginning of March of this year. In that period, we examined the dimensions of the development and the expected generation of vehicle trips of the site. On the basis of that meeting of definition of the area, we agreed on what is defined in a brief analysis according to the regulations of the site plan. So, in general, it would include a estimate of the generation of trips, the generation of vehicle trips for the proposed site, an estimate of the expected distribution of the site's trips, so how the trips would arrive and depart from the site.

Remove the noise from this thing.

An analysis of the site's distance in the two sites of the site. And during that meeting we also discussed and offered to collect data on traffic in the peak hours at the traffic crossing of Rockingham Sims and Vista Ridge Drive, since it is expected that all the trips of the site would pass through that traffic crossing.

In fact, it dates back to when the architect made it. It could be a map. Yes, the positive thing is that most of us are familiar with that area. Ho una buona comprensione di ciò che stai dicendo. Ok, bene.

È solo un incrocio di cui parlerò?

Notevolmente migliorato e lo conosciamo abbastanza bene.

Onestamente la mia diapositiva non aveva molte immagini, quindi se siete tutti d'accordo farò riferimento solo a quell'incrocio. In our original analysis, as I said, we collected data on the existing conditions, so we collected the vehicle volumes on Jack's Bridge Road near the proposed site, as well as the volumes in the peak hours at the traffic crossing. We used the average rates of the travel generation manual of the Institute of Transportation Engineers to predict which trips would have been proposed for the proposed site and this generated about 144 daily trips on holidays with trips in peak hours, including between 13 and 16 vehicles for each peak hour. In that cross-semaforized key, where it is expected that all trips will pass, this translates into an increase of less than 1% compared to the volumes in the peak hours. Furthermore, the evaluation of the distance from the site concluded that the requirement of safe distance from the site for all seasons established by the city is satisfied and exceeded in both routes. VHB has recommended to continue to maintain the visual through a continuous management of vegetation along the site's facade. The parallel reviewer of the city, Stantec, therefore examined that brief evaluation of traffic and generally considered acceptable several important elements of this presentation, including the descriptions of the site and the traffic volume, the distribution of trips, and the review of the distance from the site. The parallel reviewer asked that the analysis be expanded and perfected in some ways, so in a sense the generation of trips was recalculated with a slightly different methodology, using the equation of regression I instead of the average speeds. and then to conduct a complete operational analysis of the existing and future conditions in that traffic crossing. And finally, continuing the coordination with the city on an updated presentation of the New Hampshire Transport Department's permit for that traffic crossing. So, the first step was to update the generation of trips using those equations of the adapted curve. There has been no difference in daily trips. The rush hours have slightly increased, accounting for between 24 and 31 rush hours. That slight increase in the races in the peak hours means that the volumes in that semaphore cross would increase by about 1.5% per second of each peak hour. We therefore wanted to examine some future forecasts, so we analyzed the existing conditions in that semaphore intersection and then we examined some future years. We therefore examined the forecasts for 2027, so a year later, and for 2037, 11 years later. And to do this, we increased the volumes in a couple of different ways. So, first we made a general growth, to take into account only the fluctuations and increases year by year, and we hypothesized an annual growth rate of 1%. In addition, we coordinated with the planning department and we incorporated seven specific base projects that are currently in the authorization phase or have been approved in the authorization process that we know will arrive and we have also added them to those trips. So this brings us to our base future condition. We have analyzed it in the future, so we have added that generation of travel updated of those trips in the peak hours from 24 to 31, we have analyzed what we call our construction condition. We then analyzed again that signal based on the future absence of existing construction and the future construction and what we really want to do is to compare that future absence of construction without the proposed project and the future construction with the proposed project and see what the delta is in the potential increase in tail delays in that intersection. And what we have discovered is that the addition of the proposed project would have a minimal impact on the operations on the tails in both those years of future forecast. There would be no changes at the general level of the service, no changes at the level of the service of the individual movements, with some slight delays of up to a few seconds and increases in the length of the lines up to a maximum of a vehicle on any approach. So, in conclusion, our original study found limited impacts. We welcome in favor the parity review process. We have incorporated the requirements perfectly and the updated analysis has confirmed that the project can be carried out with a minimum impact on traffic. The paritari reviewer provided updated comments to the team just yesterday. We will respond to such comments. However, we do not expect that this would change the conclusion of the study. The paritari reviewer recommended that the city consider accepting impacts on operations such as EVs to continue with the permanent process.

With this, I am happy to answer any questions on traffic analysis or the paritari review process.

Cristina said she did what the VHDB did, that is, work on the analysis of traffic. The brief analysis associated with this. We will have to update the... the city access permit, or SIMS, on Route 28. Again, it's a city access route on a state road.

And, as Christine said, we ask them to continue to help us with the update of that permit, which is typical of what we do.

It is their honor to present the question.

In the end, we sign it.

You have to make sure it is.

So this is one of the suspended permits. Quite important. Permit to Naked Lot. Correct. Updating.

Well, I'll go to the bakery for any questions. Is there another one? No, I don't have any more.

Good morning.

You said a couple of things. One is that we can get an idea of what's going on here.

Development.

yes so it is a speculative development so this equals 26 basically we try to design something open and flexible for the use as a warehouse deposit then to commercialize it to the tenants who adapt to that use so there are two tenants at 26 1 800 packrat and blue ocean have a vision of 60 40 in the building now they will appear from there but I shouldn't use the word unlucky, but it is a bit unlucky that the industrial market is one in which the construction, the approval process, the construction process of the physical building requires so much time that it is simply too far because the tenants take it seriously until they dig a shovel in the ground. Yes. And once they see that the earth is moving, you know, they arrive on the market, they think they understand it, but it takes a lot of time to build these buildings. Despite being a warehouse.

I understand.

You said that one of the recommendations was the maintenance of the visibility distances. And how is it inserted into the plan? How does the tenant do it? The tenant is then transferred to a rental contract. How does it extend? In fact, over that 5, 6, 7, 10 years, so that it actually comes to us, Do you want to talk about the part of the plan?

Yes, absolutely. So, I mean to say, in the current plan, the way we have examined the distances of visibility is that they meet the requirements of distance of visibility. We would simply recommend that, as you know, as the vegetation and shrubs continue to grow, they continue to be maintained to maintain those distances of visibility.

So maybe it's a question for John. Yes, so we make sure that no plants are planted within that distance of visibility.

So even in the approved plan, that if it finally comes to pass, we make sure that there are no gardening interventions in that area.

Yes, but the gardeners think they are talking about shrubs, like small bushes that sprout and suddenly become Well, I repeat, Johnny, if there are small crevices that point through the grass, I think the landscaper is not doing his job. So it's outside, are you talking about the place or is it, how do you know, on a property? I mean. No, it would be on the site. usually on the site. So that area that is in the visual distance window is currently like a landscape.

Correct.

I know we put Doria to the test with that cross. What Nori did to that cross, is it also suitable for this use or will further improvements to the cross be necessary? You know, Sims Drive, Rockingham Road.

Well, all the analyzes have been taken into consideration with what is currently available in terms of timing and signal geometry and the analysis has been carried out based on that.

The answer to your question is that because of what you did to Norian they must not do it.

Not necessarily. Again, that's why we have to go back to the Transport Department. Although we are saying that we want, I'm sorry, the Transport Department. Right, but that's what I'm saying. We have to go back to show them and they will release a permit to the city for this further building of 105,000 square feet.

But since it's COT, we can't force you to do it, but the Department can do it. Exactly. That's what I meant by another percentage. I understand.

And correct me if I'm wrong, it will be presented to the traffic analysis. It is part of what we are helping the city to prepare so that the Department of Transport can intervene appropriately.

No, I was in the council when Gloria arrived and it was a three-year project and everything revolved around...

At that time I always said that you are always the last one to arrive to solve everyone's problems and unfortunately you are the penultimate. Well, now you are the last one to arrive. So I just want to make sure that we all treat each other in an equal way when they enter this planning council. The generation of God. Cristina, do you know what Noria is talking about? About my brand and the service station?

Yes, this generates a significant increase in travel compared to what this proposed development does.

Yes, I understand where you do it.

If I could add, I know that Stantec, on page 3 of their memorandum, actually talks about approaches to Sims Drive and talks about Noria and states, as evidenced in the comments to other developments proposed along Sims Drive, Jack's Bridge Road and Vista Ridge Drive, the questions for Sims Drive shown through the analysis confirmed in the field observations through this project study and other simultaneous studies extend beyond the new route of the Noria service station and the route of exit 5 of North London Derry. The Noria service station requested, as this advice says, to provide a block ban on Sims Drive as a treatment to maintain operations. And then it concludes, based on the re-epilogue of the analysis of the capacity of Table 5, it is expected that this project will increase the average length of the tail by about 6 feet in the 95% degree. And it continues a little more in the sense that, in the worst case, it could add one more vehicle to the tail for this approach. So this is what you're saying?

Worse scenario.

So I have a question about the process. Why don't we have the control module of the Commission for Heritage in our file? Nice question.

I don't know how to answer this question. Yes, someone has dedicated a lot of time to that control list. I wrote down that control list that the Commission for Heritage should use so that we can have it in our package.

Ok, I didn't know if it was there. I tried. I think the only thing we have in verbal is that our verbals

Okay, then the same thing for the conscon that has its module. Also that should be in the package. Conscon has its leaflet and the president writes a note at the bottom. For anything and because it is not here, I would like to ask them for the next meeting.

from another entity, I would have included it in my comments.

Yes, so just to update you from the last time you were here, the Commission for Heritage at the time, the director of planning, assistant, the city manager, as it was called, and I myself have commissioned the Commission for Heritage to provide a control list and to sign it for each project presented. And it was given. Now, who gives what, we can understand it, but as far as I'm concerned it is a blank sheet. It's a control list in which they write the project, the date and so on, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then they compile it, and then And I hope they have it, because I am the only one between Heritage and the planning board.

So, have you understood what we are talking about?

Yes, we can talk offline, but in any case I have no other comments at the moment.

We'll do pressure anyway. Here. I'm in place. Yes, because we had Chirstodin. She didn't know anything about that time.

I know you have it. We'll talk about it later.

Okay, John. John, okay? My only question is about that toilet on which we are holding the diary.

How many centimeters?

What could people use? Think of a lock and if you don't know how to describe it, but you know the deal when it comes to a triangular head. More industrial locks, anti-panic locks, things like that. This was the proposal and we are working on it because Eversource, PSMH has it. We are working to position a lock there. But that kind of lock, if you know what I'm talking about. I'm sorry I don't know the exact name.

Is there anyone in the audience who has questions, comments and concerns about this plan? And I don't see anyone and I will refer you to the council to establish a date for the continuation.

Before you vote, I will present a motion to continue. We have September 2. September 2, 2026. It's enough time. I think so.

Actually, I'm not asking for a suspension.

It's pretty soon. I'll give them a little more time. See you on October 7th. I would like to comment, and we must, we must. Feel free to suggest another one. Well examined, rich tooth. I would like to try for the second one. I think we are quite close on many of these things. You are very close with your permit, Tyler. State permit. State permit, your permit for funeral discharge. My two cents. Got it?

So, what's the date?

I'll put the second one and I'm not necessarily in disagreement with John, but there are other things we can recover on.

We could always continue again if things are not all done. So, motion to continue with the second one. Why?

I continue with the second one. Do I have a motion from John?

I support everything well.

September, September, 2026.

What does the people say?

I supported the motion.

I support Tony. I support Giovanna's motion. I support Tony. All those in favor of the support, saying that I, I, I. All those against, I. Abstentions. And the president votes in favor and the extension is granted until September 2, 2026. 19, right, and it goes through 800. There will be no other communications? Yes, no other official communication.

And Mr. President, just to be clear, when we come back we will focus only on what I think we have done to the council with a deep presentation. We will focus on the suspended points at the order of the day on September 2.

and as well as on the architectural elements, I will ensure that we all make sure that the control list is distributed, but I will also show the architecture, but I will also show the architecture.

That was really in terms of presentation the visual nature of the same.

This is something that we have not done and that goes directly into the comment of the Commission for Heritage on the control list.

The control list is representative of... And I would say that we should to deal with the element that we have pushed. We didn't give you a derogation, right? So, as a suggestion, I thought about it and you know, when you draw a straight line and if there is a tree within 15 inches from the line, then move the line. Okay. You said that if we get in touch with the tree then we will move the line. But what I'm saying is that if that line is within 15 inches of a tree, then don't knock it down. Move the line to the other side and leave the tree because you can't put it back in place. A 100 foot tree? You can't. And when you knock it down it leaves a greater impact than 15 inches. And then my hope is that, especially where you said you said you had a lot of space, you said the right words. So if you can understand how to use that formulation to help us, it would probably be more advantageous if you used the language rather than if we did it.

So, so, I hope you come back with something like that, we shouldn't do it ourselves. Thanks in advance.

Ok, other questions? John has a topic. I have a topic too.

Or one.

Thank you very much. So there were a couple of articles and then one on the daily news here that people have brought to my attention on this workshop PUD. And one of the quotes here is something like we will have a PUD strategy proposal in 60 days. So this planning committee, I have not been part of it for a long time, has worked to redo the PUD in a period of 18 months. So my request to the council is that if we intend to review this ordinance, if we can ask our connection with the municipal council to explain to us what it will be, what the proposed strategy will be, and perhaps these sessions must be held in front of the planning council so that we can have an idea of ​​what is being asked. I'm not saying that I believe everything that is written in the newspapers or anything else, but if you don't mind, John, please find out. The 60 days we spent, 18 months, seem rather aggressive. Maybe it's possible, maybe not, but if we could find out. It would be of great help. It's current, I know that it was on Derry News and that someone just sent me and there were similar things in other publications. Yes, it's current, I don't know anything but I can see if I can find out more.

Sheriff, I can comment. Don't worry. Certainly.

So this has been sent to the council on the basis of a report on the state of affairs. And also us, Tony, Eric, involved, as well as the president of the planning council. The 60-day strategy concerns the impact of this proposal, of PUD.

It does not concern the modification of the PUD ordinance. And none of those articles talk about it. So it's not going.

You were quoted badly. Here's a shock.

So, I'm shocked. I didn't say to believe what was there.

So just to be clear, how do you know, and you were all here and I was here when the discussion came in UAP. All of you have expressed different concerns about the impacts. So I worked with the staff and the members of the planning council who participated in those meetings, as well as with the school district, to examine those impacts and how we will mitigate them going forward to anticipate them before the question is actually presented. Part of this is already in progress in terms of studies on traffic.

They paid for Activity 1 and Activity 2. Activity 1 is complete in terms of traffic counts.

Activity 2 concerns the mitigation measures of the analysis and which mitigation measures could be necessary. So these elements are present.

A strategic component on fire protection is also in progress. And still such information has been sent to the Council to inform them that the President of the Municipal Council is also involved in such discussions. And we are planning meetings with the city of Derry to examine them.

The school districts have provided input, the Commission for Conservation has provided input and Recreation has provided input. So there is a lot of work to ensure that we are prepared to work with the developer to help manage such an impact in advance. We learned from the last PUDs. We are trying to anticipate such a process, to do better as we go on. So there is no discussion about the modification of the PUD order. I have not received instructions from the council to do it. The staff does not propose any changes, so I want to be very clear about it.

Unless there is a question. Yes, I have a question.

I just want to be clear. So what I'm saying is that I don't know if in 60 days there will be a sort of plan. If I didn't notice in the weekly update you could tell me what week it is and I'll go back to check because I read them. I just don't remember anything like in 60 days we'll have a... No, we have nothing in arrival.

What we are doing is that we have our process at 30, 60, 90, 120 days. And we are following those steps so that the staff produces results.

Ok, so there is nothing in ours that concerns something within 16, that's where I want to get.

Talk about what we are doing in terms of collaboration strategies with the urban commission and all the other departments to be able to work on such strategies.

In order to have a plan for the developer in terms of such impacts.

And at this point, if I could add something, I would say that an addition, because it has to do with what has been reported also on the newspaper. The PUD meeting, to which very few participated. The city manager did a great job in listing the pros, cons, pros and so on of the PUD.

There were some public comments. Some neighbors in that area who participated. And from there many positive things emerged. Unlike what you will read on the local newspaper of tomorrow, which I happened to read today. And so I think one of the things that emerged from the meeting was, I think I said it three times, that it is almost over on the newspaper. They almost succeeded. I said three times that there is still no question. They are about to ask a question, but they haven't done it yet. So at the moment there is nothing. Nothing will happen. Probably something will happen, but to date, in an instant, nothing has happened yet. In addition to this, we talked about what were the advantages for the community in having a pad. This must still be reported. I mentioned it at the PUD meeting and I said that maybe this time they would have reported it. It did not happen. Again on the newspaper of tomorrow. Tony.

You could also read the one about the reunion, because they talk about it as if it were true. Your comments are not finished in the... Well, at least three times, at least three times I said they didn't ask questions.

There is no question, I did it.

Me too. And that's how the whole presentation started.

And the recorded one, by the way, if you want to watch it, is very instructive. The title says the city faces a huge project and then lists Ruccolo as one of them. Yes. Yes. Well, I ... I ... So, you know, there are a lot of things ... I think there have been many positive things emerged from that meeting. Unfortunately, no one will ever know unless they have an hour to watch the video recorded of the meeting. So it is what awaits all of us to speak to the general public and help him to understand what is good and what is bad. One of the most important things that no one understands that one of our current pubs has the obligation to refer to us and the municipal council every year to prove to be negative from the fiscal point of view neutral from the fiscal point of view positive from the fiscal point of view And if they are negative from the tax point of view, there are repercussions. They must fill the gap. They must fill the gap. No one knows. Everyone thinks that everything is horrible, but there are a lot of things that people want. I was mentioned in that meeting because I mentioned the subdivision in 16 housing units in Southern South Road. That is probably one of the most negative taxes in the city in the last decade. The city will be the owner of the roads and will have to take care of them and there will be children in schools. Negative taxes, negative taxes. We will have to make holes. We will have to fix the brakes. We will have to do all these things. If it were a PUD. None of these things would be true, apart from the fact that children will go to school. So, you know, there are pros and cons, depending on what people want when they vote, but the fact that it's all negative is not true, and somehow that message is not received by the right people to get it into the hands of the right people. So, thank you for keeping me on this. Nothing.

And he had one thing, that is, that Brian Battaglia had asked for an open position at the Southern New Hampshire Planning and Trust and had published an announcement, I think, for a period of two weeks, none. So what we have to do is make a recommendation to the municipal council for the nomination of Brian Battaglia to the commission for the planning of New Hampshire Meridional. Brian has been part of the planning commission for eight years now, so he deals with transport.

So it's just time to

So someone moved.

So we need a consensus.

Consent or emotion? Emotion. John's emotions. Page. Tony's support. Is there any discussion? Not seeing anyone, all those who are in favor of yes. All those who are against no. Then you join. No. Sean is abstaining. Verbally. So they are 7-0-1 for the recommendation to the municipal council for the nomination of Brian Petillo.

there is one thing I want to raise for that multifamily project that we just approved a month or two ago and they went and dug up that land and I didn't know if we could go to the staff to take a look I don't remember if we had allowed it or asked for a kind of cushion we were talking a lot about trees today here and 38 cm tall trees the site is like a cliff and those poor people will go to live in front of the ice cream shop That Smith Lane, Rockingham Road, all that side, for which we had all the problems with access traffic, blah blah blah. And they just went there. And maybe that's how we approved it. I don't remember what we said. Hey, it must be a cushion for this thing or something like that. There were some p*****, I know the truth.

If I had developed the site, I would probably have left that cushion.

Because it would have interrupted the site. But it's just that... And maybe they did everything based on the oil, but I was just saying that maybe you should go there and see what's really happening, because it's right there at Portato di Mano.

Yes, we can also check the words to see what happened.

Or even the video, I don't remember. I know they had the delivery, because it was a kind of...

It's pretty tight. There were five books of six things and... It's pretty tight.

Yes, so this was the reason why we needed a lot of time to do it, right?

No, I think it was near the airport.

We made them enlarge. We made them enlarge because we turned his toilet into a road.

So, update emotions. An update emotion from Gian. You are not supported by Gianni. Those who are in favor of the update indicate by saying me. We are updated. Thank you, people.