Municipal Council - Regular Meeting

So many places are unpiping their natural water. They're spending the money to take it out of pipes because it has value. Thank you.

Thank you, Gail. Thank you.

I'm Josh from Logan. I'm thinking about actually moving into these chambers. Anyway, I wanted to talk about the show up for last Saturday with the anti-Boxelder rally in the rain. It was cool to see. It was an anti-Boxelder rally? I'm sorry. I know what you're talking about. Some days we feel that way, too. It was actually fun in the rain. Even if you don't support it, it's always good to see. you know um representatives there supporting the people so also i want to talk about the show up for the um for the the pipeline it was a great show up at the high school a lot of people says important things and i wanted to get up but i was just not feeling very good plus i'd like to have my word on record so i want to You guys know what our national debt is right now? It's about 39 trillion plus dollars.

We've exceeded our, our annual GDP.

So I'm looking at the cost of this pipeline and going, what's going on here? It's a lot of money. I mean, I'm assuming that the 90% is coming out of federal tax, you know, federal taxation. And then the 10% is coming out of Logan City residents. So Logan City residents are basically getting taxed twice, having to pay for it twice. One thing with the pipeline, somebody mentioned that it's about conserving water and trying to help with flood zones. I got a better idea for flood zones. Don't build it. Just don't. They're actually a natural part of our system, of our water system. If we were worried about the preservation of water, we would not have approved the Willow Lakes project because I don't think anybody calculated just how much water is going to be evaporated from those two lakes. Bringing up that water from an aquifer and then evaporating it off, nobody cared about the water conservation with that project. So I think that this project needs to go in the garbage. And I don't want any of our city staff to work on it. I don't want this to reflect on them because I know that they have worked hard on this. There are just some projects that should never come to life. This is one of them. So I'm sorry. But yeah, so anyway, thank you.

Thank you, Josh.

Hi, I'm Matthew . I live here in Logan and Wilson neighborhood. I'm not sure if you all are familiar with the word synecdoche. It's a very fun word. I learned it from a webcomic back in high school with a webcomic called Synecdoche and the World. They represented a country by just like an individual person. So you represent something, a whole by a part of it. So like a piece of pie is as good as a whole pie basically inside of synecdoche and everything like that. you get some pretty cool stuff with that kind of thinking but there's like some funny examples of like a video game like amnesia where all these other countries are like oh my gosh this is so like grim dark and scary and suspenseful and like these creepy fleshy monsters are all over the place in america just like yeah that's you know normal day for me and everything like that and then Suddenly, they're freaking out. America's freaking out. And everybody's like, what's going on? It's just like, there was a penis on there. There was a nudity. It's the thing that freaks Americans out and everything like that. Anyway, Synecdoche is represented in part by a hole and everything like that. I want you all to recognize and hopefully be antagonistic in the future towards banks. So we're going to pretend that you're all small little individual locations and everything like that. And this is a very, you know, long-term engagement and everything like that and city hall meetings as much as we want them to be short can go on for as long as maybe even a filibuster. Akeem Jeffries probably doesn't even have the record for, you know, the longest city hall meeting or anything like that, you know, especially when things are serious like when you have a housing crisis and the warming emergency crisis and domestic abuse crisis, lots of things like that. But anyway, so banks. I want to be a bank for you guys. I want to hold onto your wallets and I can take a seat over back there and hold onto the money. And then you can pay me a small fee to get that money back from you, or for you, so that you can use, or exchange. I'll give special preference if you have a large amount inside of your wallet. Special preference if you don't have any, but you have a lot of cards in there, but not, you know, like cash and everything, because cash is a little bit hard to handle, and I'd rather use my smartphone and everything like that to do these exchanges. It's easier to keep track of that way for me to make sure how much money I can make off of, or sorry, the fees that I have to charge you guys. I have to charge them as a service, and I'm I've been without a job for two years. So, you know, I drive all the way to Bear Lake and look for a job as a janitor and everything like that, but I can't get one there. They took two weeks to get back by email in the typical usual way. But, sorry, Synergy keeps banks and everything like that. So, yeah, I can... sit back there, charge you for getting your money. Or, I don't know, did you know the post office used to do bank stuff before it became a for-profit situation? They used to do money transactions and everything like that before they found all these different ways to define what holding your money was or leveraging a bet or protracting a long-term investment into an inheritable, non-taxable, I don't know, offshore account because... semantics. Anyway, thank you for your time and I'll get back to you later about what I'll accept a job offer from you guys because that will stay here and I have an equal power in this exchange. Have a good one.

Thank you, Matt.

Thank you, Matt. Have a good evening.

Seeing no one else coming up, we'll close our public comment and we will head over to mayor and staff reports. There's nothing on the agenda, but I'll give you a moment.

Okay, perfect.

And we'll move from mayor and staff reports to council business. And we're gonna start with the planning commission update from Jeannie.

Last meeting of the planning commission, they approved Cache Valley Electric's new warehouse building at 1126 West, 800 North. in the industrial zone. They also approved Gosner Foods retail store which will be at 981 North 10th West. There is a rezone that will come to us for a property at 595 West 200 North and there's another rezone that will come to us with respect to a parcel at 185 East Cache Valley Boulevard, otherwise known as where the Greek Street is.

Is the one on 200 North, is that the empty lot on the southeast corner of that intersection?

No, that has been approved. That will be a business. No, this is a house.

Okay. Thank you. Bless you. Any questions for Jeannie? Okay, we'll move to council announcements. Anything big or exciting anyone needs to announce?

We've been in a lot of meetings.

We've been in a lot of meetings. Budget hearings.

Yeah, a lot of budget stuff. Budget meetings.

I think everybody's worn out. I know. After a month of budgets, everybody's like holding their breath.

Well, I'll give like two super fast updates, which is going to be like five. Golf advisory board met and the golf course is doing great. It's very, very busy. So if you want to book a tee time, book it in advance. Don't show up the day of because golf is popular this year. I went to Power Advisory Board last week with Mayor Anderson, and there should be some exciting renewable energy power purchase agreements coming soon. There's a wind one in Idaho, a possible geothermal one, and there's another solar one that they're all working on contracts for. We should see in the next couple weeks.

It could be 20 megawatts. Yeah, it could be a lot. The wind one's 10.

Melissa, Katie, and I all attended the CAPSA lunch today. That was... to sort of inform the new head of the homeless services for the state of Utah. And I knew they had a tour, but I've been, I was on the board for many years, so I've been on the tour, but it was a good conversation about homelessness, I think.

And he's been assigned by the governor to travel around the state to different counties to look at homelessness because every county has different experiences with homelessness. It's good to hear.

I'm glad someone went because I got the invite but I was at work and couldn't make it. So I'm glad you three went.

Some of our legislators were there and county officials as well. It was a good group and BRAC and Warming Center and I have a Cache Valley Center for the Arts board meeting on Thursday, and they'll be looking at their budget and such, so that's coming up.

I have one more unless nobody else has any.

Oh, I should say I went to the Wilson neighborhood meeting last Thursday as well. Wednesday. Or Wednesday, yes. Excuse me. It was sparsely attended. There is a new chair.

Who's the new chair?

I don't remember his name. Okay.

Matt did a good job, though.

Yes, he did a really good job. I know the individual lives up on the ridge. Clipside. Clipside, that's right. I keep wanting to say Hillcrest, but it's not. Other than that, Sam did a great job explaining the projects that are part of the Wilson neighborhood. That's about it.

This one's not a board update. I'll be quick with it. Mark and I went to, Mayor Anderson and I went to the Utah League of Citizen Towns conference in April, almost two months ago now. And one of the things that they talked about in the conference was things different cities are doing to help celebrate America 250 this year. And one of the ideas that I heard that I thought was kind of exciting was some cities are allowing residents to close their streets for block parties. um and so we sent that through mayor anderson and his staff and they all reviewed it and the city announced today and put out applications if you want to close your street for a block party you can get your neighbor's signatures and fill out the application online and the city will come drop off road close signs and you can play kickball on the street for a few hours or whatever you want to do so there is information on our facebook page website probably on instagram i don't know where else it's on the internet go to our website um but i thought it was kind of exciting now i gotta convince my neighbors that we're gonna close the cul-de-sac but we'll see how that goes if they were listening i would beg them but they're not um any other council business before we move on Okay, we'll move to our action items. We just have two tonight. Our first one is Ordinance 2609 with Russ Hawley. And he's already on his way. Thank you. You want to give us a quick rundown for the public?

Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Chair, Council. This is an amendment to the business license and mobile food vendor sections of the Muni Code. this is pretty straightforward we did get the legal department to review this they offered one small change but otherwise gave it a clean bill of health it basically clarifies commercial level one level two and then adds Commercial secondary and independent contractor to our business license process. This will help us to better license and process salons that have individual chairs that have their own business. So just some Amendments there that will help. Unfortunately, we're proposing to strike out the bonding requirement for auctioneers. So some auctioneers might be disappointed or happy about that. Going once, going twice. And then the mobile food vendor section amendments essentially just follow the state regulations that were recently amended so that our code follows those codes. That's it in a nutshell. I'm happy to answer any questions.

Is the green update the one from legal? It is, yes. Any questions for Russ before we take public comment? So much discussion, Todd. vendor licenses. Thank you, Russ. You're welcome. This is a public hearing. Anyone who would like to comment on Ordinance 26-09 is welcome to come to the microphone, state your name, city residence, and take three minutes or less. And the microphone is open. I want to draw all over my face because I never know if my pen's open.

My name is Linda Johnson, and I live in Logan. And Russ, I love when you put stuff together. And I love when it has, if it's a public hearing, the information, even if it's an overview that was gone over in a workshop, which was the last one and I don't remember a ton of information either, but when there's a code change, I'd love it if we could put the code change so that we can just visibly see that. I think you guys have notes on it that you got from legal and otherwise, but if it's something that's a public hearing that's meant to get comment, I don't know if that's like posted online and I should have looked at it.

So it is posted online with the agendas?

So, Russ, do you have the capacity to put it up on the screen?

It would take me a minute, but I can. I have a copy right here.

Yeah, I just, I was looking for, sometimes there's more information in it, like it has verbatim wording, things like that. Like when the mayor gave his required read aloud, That was required by the state. I know. And things like that. But just if there are code changes, it's just visually very useful for me to see that as they talk about it. Not that I'm saying, oh, no. But just so that there's more than one way people can see and kind of see the details, like where it's changing and whatnot.

Maybe we can work on putting it on the screen better in the future. Thank you, Linda. Any other comments? Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing. We'll bring it back to the council for discussion and or an action.

I move we approve ordinance 26-09. We have a motion?

I'll second.

We have any further discussion before we vote? Seeing none, all in favor of approving resolution ordinance 26-09, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? Ordinance 26-09 passes. We have one more public hearing today. And this is resolution 26-22. And Ruben, I think this is the first time you've ever come to city council. And I don't know if that's because you don't like us.

It's not the first time.

Well, it's the first time he's ever come that I've been here. And is it Rich selfish or do you not like us? I'm about once a year. You're about once a year? Yeah. Rich doesn't misbehave. No, he doesn't. Every camping. Every camping.

He's doing his favorite thing.

I know. He is camping. He's camping with his son. Yeah. loving every moment of it. It's glamping. It's not candy, it's glamping. Is it really glamping? Kind of.

He sent a couple emails today. It's not backpacking.

We need him to go with us. I know, that's what I kept telling him. Ruben, take us away on 2622.

All right, so this is, you heard this last week, but this is $30,000 from the reserves of the golf course. towards equipment repairs. So again, with the early season start golf course and how busy it is, this is kind of the last 30,000 they really need to get them through the rest of this fiscal year. Questions?

Any questions? This is a public hearing. Anyone who would like to comment on resolution 26-22, you're welcome to come to the microphone, state your name, city of residence and take three minutes or less.

I'm looking at you expectantly moved. Golf course has been exceptionally busy this year since it started in February. Was it February or was it January? Because they were golfing in December. I don't know. I think they golfed like a day or two. I mean, there was stuff happening, but not too many people out there. But by the end of February. Oh, I was golfing in February. Like March, they rocked it. And you still haven't gotten with me. I know. I'm going to close the public hearing.

It is June now. It is June. I'm going to close the public hearing, bring it back to the council for discussion or a motion.

I have a motion to approve Resolution 26-22. I'll second that.

We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Should I leave that hanging for five minutes before I call the vote just for fun? No. I just want to make sure that everyone has their thoughts out. All in favor of Resolution 26-22, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Resolution 26-20 passes. Go move that money around, Ruben. It's all accountants do. They don't do anything hard, right? It's all numbers. Just numbers, just copy and paste.

I want you to tell your wife that at home.

Oh, she's probably listening. Did you know that your brain uses 70% of your energy? I did. That's why I have so much energy. So, 70% of your energy can be used doing accounting. It was an easy pitch.

We have one workshop item and this is back to Ruben, 26-23. Ruben, do you want to run us through this one?

I'll run you through, yeah. So $750,000 for electric, these are from electric fund reserves. This is what Mark mentioned in the budget workshops for the rooftop solar infrastructure on the public works campus.

I didn't know they decided for sure they were doing that.

I don't know if it's officially decided, but do you want to have the funding available? Is it official? They discussed in the powers of head office. It's official.

Okay. That happened since two weeks ago that it became official.

How would you like to talk about it for just a moment? Because I think it's significant that we're doing this for the Public Works building.

Correct, because we've worked from conceptual to more detailed design on the new public works campus and buildings that you've previously approved the budget for that. We held out any sort of budget approval for solar readying those buildings for conduits and structural improvements so we could put solar panels. Light and Power Department's been doing some analysis on that, the cost versus benefit of how much solar they could get out of that versus the cost of doing it. In the last couple weeks we've met, they've done, Tyson's done a real detailed review and they felt it was worth it and penciled and makes sense and looking forward to adding solar at some point. this money is now just to pay for the prepping so they can have the panels later.

Okay. And it will be owned by our power department?

Correct. The intention is they will use the rooftop space as a solar, I don't know what to call it, solar area. A farm. A farm. That they own directly into the grid, not through the public works meter or building or anything like that. It's just a line power infrastructure on top of a public works building. That'll be great.

They talked to PowerBoard and said that it'll be 1.2 megawatts on Earth. Excellent. And they felt like it was not a good deal and not a bad deal. It made sense to go ahead and do it.

What especially makes this a good deal is it's behind our meter and we don't have to pay transmission fees because it's under 3 megawatts. So that really helped with the cost analysis.

But this money that we're approving tonight is just to build the infrastructure for it. It's not for the panels that are already coming later. Do we know the cost of those yet?

I think Tyson put a little money or analysis into that, but I don't remember.

In Power Board, they didn't have a set cost, but they had a rough range, but they're still narrowing it down.

Does there need to be a documented agreement in substitution of like a lease or the space that have been used?

I don't think so. It's all owned by Logan City. I don't think that's necessary.

Unless Light and Power gets all up in their cup.

You didn't expect that many on that one, did you?

Public Works gets all in their thing and says, we want that power.

Public Works wants all the power.

Hit the next one, Ruben. This is $8,801. This is for police overtime shifts. We get this from the state, reimburse those shifts. So you've seen these quite a few times. Any questions about any of that? And then the next one, this was also talked about. Sam brought this up in their budget workshop. This is $5,850,000 for its COG money for the 400 North, 600 West corridor project. And again, he explained quite a bit of that last time in that budget workshop. But any questions about that one?

Well, I think probably just for the sake of people who might not know, the COG is the Council of Governments, and that it comprises all of the mayors and the county executive, and they make decisions based on C&D road funds. Is that correct? I got it all right? Okay. Isn't it pronounced C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C

You gotta get the three C's in there.

They accept, once a year they accept applications from the various entities that represent the COG and then they vote to allocate the money. And then they go, mm-hmm.

Yeah, just like that. That's what the towns do.

for those of you that have not gone through this process our Public Works team does an exceptional job to prove to bring forward like proposals that will actually work right and we also we fund a lot of it yeah we have we have really good match Other cities do not have the staff that we do and their proposals can sometimes not be as professional. Is that diplomatic how I said that? Should we name the cities? Our team does an awesome job.

But there is some money set aside within the Council of Governments for the smaller cities. and so that's one just for the smaller cities so that because the fact that they don't have the staff it's difficult for them to compete with the larger communities who have staff that can assess and evaluate the needs of the community as a mayor without this kind of staff it would be very difficult to do so i'm not pointing fingers i'm saying it is hard and they do an amazing job Sorry, I didn't mean to go on and on.

Thank you for clarifying.

And the last one is $4,630. This is a state-funded thing as well for the fire department training. So another thing they get quite a bit.

Any questions for Ruben that we didn't already interrupt him with? I did it as much as you don't look at it. It's a workshop. That's what it's for. I know. Any other considerations before we close?

I have one more quick one. I forgot to announce the parks and rec board have been talking recently. They just closed a trail along the deer fence that has been getting. What people have been building jumps on it without yeah, misused, I guess. And so they're going to hold a meeting on June 11th from 6 to 7 PM. They're hoping that people who use that trail and mountain bike and want trails to be built to come to that meeting to give. Ideas on what they want and where they would like it and it's in Logan city, but it's wild land. Yes.

And so the state. has control over it.

So the state likes or doesn't like the gel? They do not. They do not. Okay. Because it's interfering with the wildlife. Yeah, absolutely want them removed. Yeah.

so for mountain biker if you're mountain biker go to that it'll be here at city hall in the conference room hopefully we can find a solution yes that would be good for everybody a couple things um first i've been absent for a while um during the month of may but today no yesterday i got to drive on the new intersection at cass valley boulevard and 200 East and it looks amazing. So yeah, thank you for the great work there. Then also a reminder that Cache County, County 250 is planning that dance on June 11th at the Cache County Event Center. It's gonna be at 6.30. So those of you that love dancing.

So ride your bike here, talk about bikes, and then ride your bike to the dance.

So is that the one where they're going to do all different kinds of dances for the 250th? Yes. And you can either watch or dance or both. And it's free. And there's going to be food. Right? Somebody said there was going to be food. Refreshments. Oh, okay. Water and punch. Punch.

Anything else?

Ernesto, have you driven on King's Road lately?