City Council - Regular Meeting

I will call the regular city council meeting of March 16th, 2026 to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All individuals are asked to either silence or turn off all cell phones, pagers, and other electronic devices that may disrupt the meeting. Approve of the agenda. Approve the agenda as posted in accordance with the open meeting law and hearing. Place all agenda items on the table for discussion. What is the wish of the council? I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as presented. I'll second it.

Motion by Mayor Zilka, second by council member Lundberg. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? I opposed carries. Approval of minutes special work session meeting of March 2nd, 2026 and the regular meeting of March 2nd, 2026. Approve. Please wish the council. I'll make a motion to approve. A second. Motion by council member Ligrin. Second by council member Meyer. Any discussion? No, Mr. president. Uh unlike other people that abstain because they're not here, I am not going to abstain because I watched it live while it occurred. Very good.

Uh and by the way, since I brought that up, the quality of that has improved dramatically. Good. These things any other discussion hearing? None. All those in favor?

Opposed? carries. Approval of bills, electronic checks 4103 through 4136 and checks 111490 through 114165 totaling 1,4,141.72. Approve. What is wish the council? I'll make a motion to approve the bills. Second. Motion by council member Gosh, second by council member Hansen. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor?

Opposed? Carries. Awards, donations, presentations, and proclamations. We have none this evening. So, we'll move on to the consent agenda. Under that, we have the airport commission minutes. February 19th, 2026. Receive. Animal control report. February 2026. Receive. Approve updated job descriptions for seasonal golf course positions. Appoint returning seasonal golf employees and advertise for golf course attendance and pro shop attendance. Approved fire report for February 2026. Receive internship writer Simmonic wastewater authorized. LPH license Coburns Inc. DBA Coburn's Liquor number 6033 approve Morrison County prosecution report January and February 2026 receive police report February 2026 receive recycling report February 2026 receive wastewater and collections report February 2026 receive water report February 2026 receive what is the wish of the council

I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. Motion by council member Hansen, second by council member Glaze. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? Opposed? Carries. Public hearings and letings. We do have a public hearing tonight. Uh it's resolution 2026-22. Authorize submitt of funding request small cities development program project 403 First Street Northeast. adopt. I'll turn that over to Greg.

Thank you, Mr. President. We do have the affidavit of publication as well as the affidavit of posting for this public hearing. Uh to give you a little bit of background on the resolution in front of you this evening. It's a a funding request, as you mentioned, for small cities development, uh project 403, which is First Street Northeast, which would essentially go from Broadway all the way up to the railroad tracks right out here in front of city hall. Um we are targeting that tenatively as starting in uh 2027 for construction. A little bit of background. We've been working with Bolton and Mink on a number of funding opportunities for that project. This is one of those those funding opportunities that we're looking at. In November of 2025, we had a preliminary proposal that we submitted to small cities and now they're asking us to complete the full proposal, which is a good sign uh for us. Um this program that we're going to uh to apply for is through the Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development, which also known as DED. They have a program there which is the small cities development program that is a federally funded um program through their community development block grant um which is funneled through the US housing department uh of development. So with the project here that this particular uh funding application would be looking to to fund it is the sewer sanitary sewer collection replacement which obviously is part of a much much larger projecting but this is focusing directly on that sanitary sewer portion of it. Um the column second column on the left hand side is the total that we're looking at asking from small cities. It's $600,000. On the far right of that column, you can kind of see the total project cost is $7,883,962 is what uh what the project is projected right now at this point in time. And like I said, we've got a number of other funding options out there that we are pursuing, but this is one of them um that looks looks promising for for the project. Um looking at the backside, you kind of the next page, you can kind of see the map in and where we're looking at going, as I mentioned, is from Broadway all the way up to the to the

railroad tracks here. Um we did have uh two other projects where we've secured funding from this this grant application. One was in 2011 which was a road project. Another one was in 2023 24. It was the main street revitalization. And so we do have some experience with with these projects. The other item to point out if we are se selected for this grant opportunity um there is an environmental review portion because it is federal funds which is required to do that environmental review. there's any historic properties along that stretch. Um, we'll have to do some further investigation to see if there's any adverse impacts. I don't anticipate any adverse impacts just because we're replacing the road very similar to what's there now, but we'll have to go through that process to to illustrate that. And I do expect historic properties on there because I I know of a couple of them already just based on their age. Um, but I don't expect any adverse impacts on those properties. So with that, um, we would ask the council to open up the public hearing, see if there's any public comment, and then ultimately approve the application of this, uh, this grant submitt. Very good. Thank you. Uh, it is 7:37. I will open the public hearing. Does anyone wish to speak? Anyone wish to speak? Third and final time. Anyone wish to speak? Hearing none, I will close the public hearing at 7:37. What is the wish of the council?

Mr. President, I will make a motion to adopt resolution 2026-22 authorizing submitt of funding request. Sorry. Second. Sorry. Motion by Mayor Zilka, second by Council Member Lunberg. Any discussion? U Mr. Council President, if I may. You want to go first, Frank? Go ahead. No. Uh Greg I see that thing is just up to the railroad tracks. Yes. What's going to happen? They're on anything? Nothing at this point. So after the railroad tracks that was done, don't quote me on the air, but 20 20 thou or 2007 2008 time frame. So that was reconstructed at that point. Put sewer and water and all that pipes and all that.

There's not sewer, excuse me, there's not sewer and water on the stretch in the road here. Um when they did the development across the road, there was a a chunk of water that was put in. Um the way that river view is served, it actually comes off of Fourth Street. It cuts across over at that point. So this section right over here doesn't have um really any utilities in it. So we were looking at the stuff south of the railroad track just because that's where the utilities are at. Okay. Thank you. Y Mr. President, go ahead. Uh at one time we were discussing doing something across the railroad tracks to make it safer. Yep. Uh could that be part of this project? Do them at the same time or

likely they will be two separate projects. Um and I anticipate one will be before the other one. Um so the railroad track portion that's that's the Ripley Spur project. We've got two grants for that project. Um both First Street and Fourth Street, the railroad crossings are going to be upgraded. Um and so that one is a tenative in 2026, both of those. And then this project would happen in 2027 for uh for construction and we could use sidewalks. We could use sidewalks at that point. Yep. So they would this project would tie into that project. Um when it's done, it'll be sidewalks all the way down. Yep. Okay. Any other discussion? Hearing none. Resolution call roll, please.

Lunberg, yes. Lugren? Yes. Meyer? Yes. Zilka? Yes, Kafla. Yes, Glaze. Yes, Hansen. Yes, Gosh, yes. Carries. Moving on. Letings. First one is a computer equipment. GHA Technologies Police. Kyle.

Thank you, Council President. Our m request an authorization to purchase replacement computer equipment for our patrol as well as office workstations. The equipment requested is a one Panasonic Toughbook for uh squad car 708 along with a docking station, two portable laptops for officers that they use at their desks as well as six Dell desktop computers for our admin staff and record staff. They are replacing aging systems for our replacement program that we have been going through with Exona. The total cost for the equipment purchased from GHA GHA Technologies is $23,367.80. And funding for this purchase is included in the 2026 capital improvement plan.

What's the wish of the council? I'll make a move to approve. Second. Motion by council member Glaze, second by Mayor Zilka. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? I opposed carries. Item two, spring leaf and brush collection day of caring. Bob Leir Roloff's Refuge and Recycling Inc. Award. Usually just throw me in on that. You're gonna take that one? Okay.

If if the staff isn't here, the good odds are good. I'll take it. All right. Thank you, Council President. Uh so today we're looking for the award for the spring leaf and brush collection pickup. So we did uh we requested quotations for that. We received two bids. The low bid going to Bob Lemir's Rolloff Refuge and Recycling at $8,190. Uh the uh competing bid came in $5 more. Last year's spring collection was rewarded to uh Bob Lamir as well. It was $7 more last year. So, we're getting a deal. The pickup date is set for May 9th regard regardless of the weather. and that is following the day of caring event. This is set to be paid for through the score grant. So today staff is looking for the council to approve or award the quotation of $8,190 to Bob Lemir's rolloff refuge in recycling Little Falls for the uh fall leaf and brush collection to be charged to the score grant uh to be held on May 9th. Rain, snow or shine leaving out Leaving the empty bags. Leaving the bags. Sorry, I'm just reading it verbatim.

Leaving the bags opened. Yes. What's the wish of the council? I'll make a motion to award this spring cleanup to Bob Laneir. Second. Motion by council member Gosh, second by council member Glaze. Any discussion? and two brother-in-laws must have knew they're only $5 apart. Well, since you brought it up, you know, in a joking manner. Yes, I was reading it rather serious here. I I've got concerns with how close all of this is,

but I'll leave it at that. Right. The bids come to us sealed. I thought that, but I never said anything. I mean, I Maybe they're working together. I don't think so. Not knowing the two of them. Well, I did the math while I was sitting here. It's like 0.0001% difference. It's $5 and one dropped $5 from last year and the other dropped seven or whatever. It is what it is. And it's that's fine. I'm not saying a word about it, but it stands out. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor? I opposed. Carries.

Old business. First one here is petition vacate rightway request portion of Fourth Street Northwest. Deny. Greg.

Thank you, Mr. President. At your last council meeting, we received a petition um to vacate a portion of Fourth Street Northwest. You can see on the screen the area that uh were that was requested. We did speak to the or I did speak with the planning commission in regards to that section u to see if it was something that the planning commission would want to uh entertain vacating that portion. I did express some concerns in regards to vacating that portion simply because of a transportation component of it. Now I know currently we do not have any road constructed in that area. It's essentially a paper uh platted roadway. But if we were to look further out, which I know our screen doesn't do that, but if we were to look further out um in future years, we'd be looking at potentially looking at some sort of connection um north and south. This is one of the few areas where we continue to have rightway both on the north and south of that uh that spur line that used to be there. Um if you go to the east, we've got Lindberg Drive, then you've got Fourth Street, and then if you go further to the west, you've got A Street, which continues north and south. If we were ever to look at a connection point um in between there because that's about um seven blocks in between Lindberg and 8th Street, we would have to we would have to put this would be the only area for that that connection. Um in addition to that, looking at 8th Street in terms of usage, it's probably not going to be a high volume corridor. Um because of the rideway when uh when it was developed to the west, half of that rideway was was given away, vacated. And so we really only have 33 ft of rightway on that 8th street portion. So we're not able to widen that without acquiring additional property in order to make that road a little bit bigger and a little bit more high volume. So this is realistically the the area that we'd be looking at um in the future if we ever wanted you know to go further north than what we are currently with um with that with that transportation network. So with that, um, the planning commission also agreed in the recommended to deny the request

to vacate that portion of 4th Street Northwest. Thank you. What's the wish of the council? I'll make a motion to deny the petition. I'll second it. Motion by Mayor Zilka, second by Council Member Goshik. Any discussion,

Council President, if I may. So, I'm I'm curious because we've just had a really hard time with the railroad when we're, you know, vacating our crossings. Is there any chance that we're actually going to get a crossing? Quite possibly. Um the rail or the the planning commission also recommended that we try to pursue that because there's no railroad spur on there. It's just platted. It's an old railroad bed that the tracks have all been taken off. Got

um this stretch. I mean, right now the um there's a spur that not a spur, there's a grant aid trail for snowmobile and ATVs that go on that stretch and so that might be something that we might consider looking at acquiring some point at some time um for a trail or something like that. So very early high level discussion potentially about that, but that was that was a thought that was brought up as well. Okay, Mr. President,

go ahead. uh further east on the old Sooline bed, we had a nice trail that could have went through there, but since has been bought by or he put in a some kind of Mr. Crowder or some kind of a thing where he owns that property, Yep. So, it would have to end up right on Lindberg. That is correct. Yes. Okay. Yep. Any other discussion hearing? None. Just a reminder, if you vote yes, it means that we are denying it. Correct. All those in favor? I opposed.

Carries. New business policy number 93, social media approve. Alex.

Thank you, Council President. So before you is a social media policy. The staff is asking uh for council to uh pass the it it's standard practice nowadays to have a social media policy at the city. Our police department does have one but the city itself does not for our uh today it's only Facebook page. So we were working with an attorney that we are currently working on social media matters with. Uh this was recommended by them uh drafted there as well. So, what this essentially does is it clearly states what we can and cannot do to include the ability for staff to remove comments that are not relevant to the specific topic item that may contain harassment, discrimination, legal violations. Um, and it's just a standard policy that helps make sure that we're utilizing our social media appropriately and within the city standards.

What's the wish of the council? I'll make a motion to Second motion by council member Glaze, second by council member Ljigrin. Any discussion?

Uh yes, Mr. President. I I'm not going to take objection to anything in the policy. Just want to offer a word of caution here. Um, if this hasn't been reviewed by legal yet, but I know other municipalities and government organizations have gotten hemmed up when they start deleting comments and stuff. So, I would just be very careful. There's once you post something on social media, you you've kind of opened up the door and if if somebody wants to call the council or staff names, you kind of have to roll with that. Once you put it out there, I know we had a thing with an arrest with our police department. People were all over that and you just got to take it. So,

and I agree. It would be my recommendation uh and I please check into the legality if we're trying to put out information uh as an FYI think it's a useful tool, but if you can do it without enabling any comments whatsoever, I think that would be the best way to go. This policy was I'd say 90% from an attorney. Okay.

And this is in it used in uh other counties and cities as well. So it has passed through legal and um to address there is minimal staff that even have access to our Facebook page. So um if it came to the point of deleting comments in a certain circumstance, this is not something we would want to do often. It would uh be something that would require approval from myself and if I do have questions, I personally would go to legal to verify that I'm doing the right thing. Any other discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor?

I opposed carries. Item B, resolution 2026-21, golf fee schedule, adopt. Alex,

thank you, council president. So, you have the golf uh fee schedule before you. Uh we have not actually changed the amount on any of these uh particular items. We did add a couple things such as club rental, the golf cart storage for year round. We do have a number that like to stay during winter, but we have not had a specific charge for that. um to list halfp price memberships after 4th of July. Uh MGA, the Minnesota Golf Association membership and modification of the name of the it used to say college um membership fee. We changed that to young adult, but otherwise we've kept all of the fees the same amount. We just added a few items for better clarification and coverage.

Thank you. What's the wish of the council? I'll make a motion. I'll second it. Motion by council member Lojigan. Second by council member Gosk. Any discussion? Yes, Mr. President. Go ahead, Frank. What constitutes a young adult? That one is 24. 18 to 24. It is in the notes section. Okay, Dave. Um, Alex, you know that I gave Sony that piece of paper with the other golf courses. Did you see that? Um, briefly. Yes.

Uh, that was given to me by somebody who called around and at that time there was one golf course where a lot of people go play, $500 less for membership than what we were. I think that went up. They went up to you might have it there. I don't know if it's if you have that or not. I do not have that form on me. Um I do know we went over some of it and I do have it's uh Paul's math for all the fees on he has a comparison chart of the Little Falls Golf Course, Piers, Eagles Landing, and Oak Hill, right

on almost every single subject. We are not the most expensive. There's a couple where we're the least, we're the second, we're the third, but I believe there's only carts and well, senior couple is the only items that we are the most expensive on this long chart of of prices. No, I think Eagle's Landing is the one I'm talking about and they're less than we are membership for a family.

Yeah. And and but of the four were not the most expensive. No, but what I'm saying is Eagles Landing and I just the only reason I'm bringing it up is I've had four people who will not golf here because the fees for memberships are too high. And that's the only thing bringing it up. I uh when I talked to Sony today, she said our golf cart rental, I believe, was higher than everybody else's. Yes.

And our membership fees uh like Eagles Landing, I think she said was 1350, but we're still hiring. Can we not lower that to kind of get more reasonable with the especially Eagles? I I don't know. I'm just bringing it up for discussion. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I just believe that we're we're too high on our membership for that.

So, our membership items, we have single, couple, or household. Each one has their own way of phrasing it. Uh family, senior, single, single, senior couple, college, junior, and league. Of all of those, I do believe senior couple is the only one that we are the most expensive on. Otherwise, we have at least one course that is more expensive than us. So, it does vary across it and they've been taking into consideration the cost of the other nearby courses. So, if there's a specific question on items, I can give you more information on that. Plus, you got to remember if you want to drive out to Eagles or you want to drive down to Oakidge or Oakill or you got to drive today, it's going to cost you money because with a gas price 320.

So, Council President, if I may, um, so we're the highest on the cart rental out of the courses. Yes. So, I think so. Cart, hang on. I'm getting to that section. So, if you were to look at seasonal cart rental for a single individual, we are 500. Uh, I I don't know which ones these are. So, we're 500, another is 3.45, another is 300, another is 495. Okay. So, you're saying for the season? So, a cart membership. Seasonal pass. Yes.

Okay. Well, that's probably too high because if you just go and rent a cart every single time you golf, you're at 1175. That's about 550 rounds. That's a lot of golf for I mean it doesn't really make sense for anybody to not just rent it per time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Okay. So, either because I don't know. I think 1175 is quite a bargain for a cart rental. So, I think that might be a little too low. On top of that, um, we're looking at if you keep your golf cart at the course, you know, and yeah, you have to have a storage fee and everything like that, and then you have to pay the trail fee on top of that, it makes way more sense to just rent a cart every single time you golf and that's going to be put put constraints on how many carts are available on a given weekend or anything like that. So, I think the trail fee is too high and I think the storage I mean if you're where they're paying to store their cart there and then they're paying a $300 on fee on top of that that's approximately I'm approximating 30 rounds that they have to play which is pretty much twice a week maybe once a week. Anyway, it's I think a couple of these numbers are disproportionate to what the what the value is. With that being said, in the past, I've always advocated for uh Little Falls taxpayers, citizens of Little Falls to get a break. I don't know if it's 10%. Their citiz their levy dollars are going towards the course. I feel that they should get something for that, you know, and and and people that aren't living within city limits pay the full price. I feel I think that's a nice way to appreciate the citizens and and say thank you for supporting our golf course. And lastly, and I'm going to give this another shot because last year I didn't get very far with it. I still think we need to change the kids play for free. I think we need to change it back to not paying with a playing a paying adult. Um, again, I'm going to give it the brief version. Our community is constantly looking ever since I've been in high school. What is there for

kids to do in Little Falls? What is there for kids to do in Little Falls? Well, we have this golf course. You get to go and play there for free as long as you're respectful towards that golf course and you don't and you follow the rules. This is an opportunity for you to learn the game of golf and play um just at your leisure and and and learn how to play a fun game. So I think we should take away is my recommendation that we take away must have pay paying adult to play when we talk about the kids the youth playing for free or do you consider you up to what?

Well, it's up to 18 because the the next membership would be is 18 to 24. I don't I don't feel if again and as I advocated for last year, let's make these kids if they want to play for free, they have to take a course. I'd be willing to teach the course. This is how you fix the ball mark. This is what's expected of you when you when you're on the golf course. This is how you behave on a golf course. You're respectful to adults. You're respectful to any to employees and to workers. And can make it a halfhour course. This is what your expectations are. You break the rules. you lose your o you you you lose your opportunity to play. I like I like Yeah, if I may interrupt.

Yeah, go for sure. Yeah,

I like that idea. Um because one of the comments from um employers employees at the golf course um was the fact that after a while they were considered babysitters. And that was the biggest complaint that I heard that they had to go through and babysit these kids that the parents dropped off. Um and it took them away from the other stuff that they had to to do. Um, and I've been out there where I've had a call in because kids were not doing what they were supposed to do and actually getting themselves in a predicament that could actually cause some harm to them. Um, so if we would do that, I would say would have to be a course that would be a little bit longer than a half an hour,

right? We could talk about that. Very very welllaid out. Da da da da. and they couldn't go on there until they've taken that class and had a a a slip that they would present that I completed this class. And so I'm okay. I mean, those are the kind of things that I would be looking at if we would go that route. Um man, one more thing I might add or ask in that fee for a family to pay 1,500 if they go out and play golf, do they get free range balls or they have to pay for those two? Yeah, they have to pay range balls. To the best of my knowledge, there is no package that includes free range balls. I believe

I think we're the only one that does that. That's another point. No, I don't think we're the only one that does that. I you you're comparing to Eagles, which is fine there. You can hit the range. They just have the balls out there. Y I'm not aware you can't do that at Pine Ridge. Nope. No, but you can do it at at Oakill. Well, it's kind of a sister course, right? With Yeah, but I'm saying that, you know, with a similar business plan. So, well, well, what I what I'm getting used to is kind of

what I always like to do is sum summarize um what I kind of hear everybody talking about is that we're not really um in agreement with everything on there right there on the on the on the schedule right now that we may need to take a a a more in-depth look at it a little bit more. Um, do we want to just table it till our next meeting? Um, and turn it back over and have them go through with Paul and what else and look at some of the things that we discussed about and see if you want to make any changes or I don't know. I mean, I know I know it's getting close to golf season, but I also

I don't think we're going to be starting, you know, in two weeks. In two weeks. Correct. Um although I if that's the case, I would like more clarification as to what you would like us to look in and I can provide more information to you as well. So, for instance, the four different golf courses. I believe that I'm just throwing that out there. So, I don't know what the Do we have a motion in a second? Not right now. I just summarized this in opinion. If we have a motion on the second. Yeah, we have to deote. Maybe we should take a vote. Yeah. Okay. So, a motion on tableing it or a motion on what? Well, don't we have a motion to approve this? A motion to approve it. Yeah. So, we should take that. Yeah, we have a motion in a second. So, let's vote.

Well, okay. Let's do that then. It's a resolution. Um, call roll, please. Lilrin, what is this now? to approve the fee schedule as is on the board. That's the resolution right now. To approve to approve the fee schedule that's on the board and that would be what would be in place for the 2026 season. Meyer, no. Zilka, yes. Canafa, no. Glaze, no. Hansen, yes. Gosh, no. Lenberg, yes. So, we've got what? Four and four.

Four to four. Four and four. So, that fails. So, it's back to the drawing board. Could I get some clarification on what you would like to see looked into, addressed, updated, etc. I'm just point of order here. I'm just going to base this off of what happened last meeting. So, and one of the most interested parties here was a no vote. So the no voters can summarize what what their issues are uh get together on what the fee schedule needs to look like and bring it back under another resolution. Just my thoughts. Yeah, that's fine.

I agree 100%. I that's fine with me, but we're not going to take road tonight. And so would you like us to call you? Right. I I would also like to ask Alex who who was all involved in setting up the fee schedule. Uh that would be Paul the golf course superintendent, myself, Sony are the primary ones. We've had other staff looking it over. Okay, those would be your primary.

And here's here's why I asked. Under uh previous organization, we had the fees laid out in front of us and I asked who was involved in this? The answer was nobody. We didn't ask the members of GF what they thought. We didn't ask Canadian Cup what they thought. We didn't ask the extravaganza committee members what they thought. I mean, we have a lot of resources out there that would be willing to give an opinion and interacting with a lot of those people in the past to be quite honest with you, I think they would have the uh intellectual integrity to say even if they thought something was low, they would say so. So, um, you know, I when it comes to the fee schedule, I I don't think staff needs to be a lone ranger here. You can go outside of the walls of city hall for opinion on something like this. You got a golfer that sits up here. One thing I would like to mention and food for thought if we do and I and I can have a conversation with you on some of my ideas. Um you know this this council historically is very very timid on putting more money into this golf course. And you know if we cut rates and I hear what you're saying Mr. Glaze I agree. you know, that membership is boy, 1,500 bucks. That's a lot of money and you got to play a lot of golf in order to make that pay pay for itself. Um, but if we cut those rates, we're going to be, you know, we just

barely broke even as it was this last year. Correct. Correct. I mean, it was pretty much zero dollars. I mean, pretty much zeroed out to not to no profit, no loss aside from aside from the depreciation. Yeah. for depreciation transfers. I think we made about $1,000 if I'm not. So, I mean, most for all central, it's almost zero.

So, you know, if we if we go if you if you slash prices, especially with the memberships, you got to play the long game. And the long game is getting more people out there because the prices are more competitive and getting more. But that's going to take a couple years to get up to that point rather than just most of the people that golf out there just pay for their membership and they golf every year. So I think there's there's there's a little bit of checks and balances to weigh on that too. I I agree with you, but I think you would get the people who were left last year because they were too high would come back and play here because they love the course here. Yeah.

And so I I would see more people coming. That's that's my opinion. I agree. I understand what you're saying, too. You know, it could go either way. You're right. Checks and balances. So, two people $150 spread over two people for an entire season. 75 bucks a piece.

Right. I I I just base the single rate a as kind of my hinge here, right? It's 24 rounds, right? So if if a person golfed in league and and went one day most weekends, they'd be money ahead over the course of the summer. So if I just focus in on that, I I don't think our entire rating scheme is out of whack. I guess I guess maybe compared to other courses is what was alluded to. You think $800 is high for a single membership? We are the

I'm I'm I'm more I'm more concerned with the with the carts because Yeah. Okay. To store your cart at the cult course is one thing, but to pay a $300 trail fee. Okay. Okay. That's that's 30. I'm rounding because it's 1175 or whatever. You know, you're that's 30 rounds. Okay. It it it it failed. I I'm willing to listen to what what the resolution comes back with. All All I ask, especially when it comes to the youth, if if somebody's going to advocate advocate for for free youth golf, bring me some kind of evidence that giving away golf yielded in more paid memberships.

Well, the only thing I would say is if we lose more money, then we'll have another discussion next year. Yeah, absolutely. But are we going to lose money no matter what? So if we're going to have this discussion, council president, if I just we're going to make money this month. Yeah. Is there anything on that? Just

I I would be advocate for, you know, maybe maybe kids don't play for free on the weekends or maybe you know certainly I know they already don't play for free on league nights because the course is essentially closed for the Canadian Cup League. So I mean there's there's there's ways of doing this, but I do I I feel strongly that um again it goes back to the long game. So to advocate to say that this is going to make us more money in the future. I know many many kids that never never um were introduced to golf. Well, the a lot of these kids are out of college or 18 years old and they're in college. If they want to golf now, they got to pay 400 bucks. And I'm I think it's wonderful that they have a membership that's essentially half because that's $400 that they have to pay and if they get hooked on the game of golf, they'll pay the $800 if they move back to Little Falls and decide to raise their families here. So, um you you know you the first the first and foremost you got to get butts in the door, right? You got to get people in the seats and that's exactly what the kids play for free um membership. That's exactly what it does is it gets people out there and exposed to the game of golf and then from there you're just playing the long game.

Mr. President, go ahead. We had a long discussion. We took a vote. Now we're having a longer discussion. And I think uh what Alex is looking at is pretty much what do you want change something to look into? And I feel one of the issues is the kids golfing. There's troubles with it. But if there's a course taken, fine. And we can discuss this. And then the other thing is the price of the carts or membership, you know, certain times of year, but I think that's something we can discuss later. We're not going to solve it tonight. Nope.

I agree. If you voted no, get together and come up with a plan. It was 440. You're not a quorum. will go ahead and converse away. Did that give you enough guidance for what we're going to do? A little bit. I look forward to hearing what some of the suggestions are from those who voted no. Um I'll also be able to provide for you all the comparison chart with ourselves and our three nearest uh neighbor courses so that you can have a little bit of context on what some of those rates are. You might want to throw in Pine Ridge too because that's within you just for just to have the full because I know there are a lot of people that go up to Pine. Come on. You don't know this off the top of your head? No, I haven't worked there for a couple of years now. So, council president membership is

Yes. before we took a vote on it. I was going to ask about um clubhouse fees. There were none on the fee scale. So, are there no clubhouse fees now? Um, or is that a separate chart completely? With the agreement with Carrie, all of that is handled by her. So, that was, I believe, not on last year's fee schedule either. Okay. Thank you. All right. Um, announcements. Any announcements except for the fact that

Except for the fact that next Monday we have our um strategic planning meeting. Uh, I believe that starts at 9:00 at uh Lynen Hills. Um, and hopefully everybody handed in your lunch, lunch menu, lunch choice. Um, and then we do have uh a planning thing that we need to go through and fill out before then. And if you haven't already done so, please um send those comments from our um meet and greet with the community to Alex before Friday. Um, you're downstairs. Yep. Yeah. Do you want these ideas we have back brought back to you, Alex, or you want this to bring it to the retreat?

Uh, so this much like last year, these are discussion points that I'd like you to think about. Does help for you to to take notes if you're going to be unable to attend that day. It'd be great if you can get it to me, but these are items we'll discuss during our uh morning session. You don't need them before. I will not. No. Okay. Just want to give you some items to specifically think about. All right. Then I will adjourn the meeting at 8:14. You have to invest on a new pan. I noticed I'm right up to there. Hey, can you go here longer?