Lancaster County Council - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon, I'd like to call this meeting of the Lancaster County Committee of the Whole to order. I ask that the clerk note for the record that a quorum of council is present. That public notice of the meeting, including the meeting agenda, has been posted the required length of time in the lobby of the county administration building and on the county website. And that the news media was notified of the meeting time and place. I welcome you to your county council meeting. I would ask that you take a moment to turn off or place on vibrate any cell phones. Thank you for not wearing any hats or caps in the council chambers, and please be considerate of others in the room by refraining from conversations during the meeting. I ask that you please stand and join council for the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by the invocation given this afternoon by Councilmember Stuart Graham.

Let us pray. Thank you for your many and abundant blessings. Thank you for the ability to be involved in useful work. Pray for the county employees or citizens and for this council. I pray for the agenda set before us today. Please grant us the wisdom to do what is right and what would benefit those who live, work, and raise families in our beloved Lancaster County. In Christ's name we pray, amen.

We have a motion to approve the agenda. So moved. A motion from Ms. McGriff. Is there a second?

Second.

Second from Mr. Lewis. Any discussions? If not, all those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous. We do not have any citizens' comments, so we're going to go on to item 6A, update on the regional park. Mr. Tucker. all right good

Okay.

some type of pervious parking system to save on impervious space and maybe even some cost savings in there too. But we will work through that in the coming weeks and months. Again, baseball fields, three full fields, batting cages, bullpens, concessions, coaches room. Fields are sized to allow that middle field to accommodate USCL's baseball program and they could use this as their home field. I will also recognize all of the staff and y'all throw something at me if i misstate anything you all are have spent hours and hours and hours on this so i want to make sure we do it justice i think to that point i do i think all of you staff and and council has spent an inordinate amount of time programming planning designing trying to fit the budget uh to the park and um and have come up with what we feel like is a is a great A great facility that will accommodate our residents and even some sports tourism play on the fields as well. Just again, some more pictures and renderings of what the final design will look like. At any point, please chime in and ask some questions. In baseball fields, the way we have the budget set up now, we were able to turf all three of the baseball fields, which I think was certainly staff's preferences. I know, Council, you had preferred being able to do staff, and we were able to do that with Tim's help and the contractor's help, looking at some value engineering options, so very happy with how that turned out. Again, soccer fields, three fields, the community room, which I think is a very nice addition. to the park and then the concession stands, obviously. And again, that's a picture of the community room. I think this will also show the community room and the soccer fields, the connection between those two. And then a little bit different view of the community room and the connection with the soccer fields. I will say, I'll back up for just a second, Parking, we 750ish parking places as currently designed. I think that is a higher number than our engineers and consultants thought we needed. But I've heard from a number of you that parking and making sure we have appropriate parking is a priority. And I feel like all of staff feels like we will have the park properly parked. Don't say that three times fast. and again we had looked at several different options with the soccer fields when we when we went out to bid on this everything from sprigging the softball fields to having artificial turf on the soccer fields we landed on being able to sod the fields with irrigation and i think chris chris and his team at parks and rec are very happy with the sodding option and looking forward to getting all of that um splash pad this is a pretty good idea of what the splash pad will look like especially relative to size the the individual pieces and parts are still to be determined but it's a significant amenity to the park i think it's a good size for the park and the way it's set up we will be able to in the in the colder months we'll be able to use this area for other programming and other types of use And so it's going to eventually be more of a multi-use space that is also a splash pad. So very happy about the functionality of the splash pad. A couple different renderings of the splash pad. But the clicker's not working. Well, I guess we'll just really focus on this one for a minute. sabotaging me from up there. Here's another image. I think we've got one more and that's one more. I mean, as you can see, that's a nice size splash pad with some green space there around it. So again, I think that'll be a really nice space to use either whether the baseball fields, soccer fields are being used or not. Again, maintenance facilities also on site. That's one of the conversations we've had with the contractor and the engineering teams is, moving that away from asphalt back to a pervious surface, gravel or some other type of pervious, more low maintenance, but it's also a little bit more economical. And again, this is the budget, the different pieces and parts of the budget that have been approved. That last line is just, it just reflects the additional revenue from the state. And then the most recent contribution from the Roslyn bonds that i think just got received third reading on tuesday night happy to report we have a budget we have a project that's under budget at this point and we are moving ahead which there's that slide we we expect the contractor will be on site beginning construction or beginning some initial mobilization and prep august the 17th we are anticipating a groundbreaking on the 25th We will not be doing that at 10 a.m. We will be doing that at 12, high noon, to accommodate everybody's schedule and just making sure one of the struggles that we've looked at maybe doing it at 1. Some of the shuttles that we're going to use need to be staged and back in their position by 2. So if we can do the groundbreaking ceremony at noon. Jenna's going to change the announcement for that, but we want to make sure we get that out there. We are going to have some parking at the Fitt Building and then shuttle folks up to Roslyn and to the park to make sure that we have adequate parking and it's convenient and it doesn't clog the whole network of roads as we get through there. Let's get through that. Let me pause there. Any questions? I'm zooming through that a little quick. I know we have another presentation that's going to get some attention, and we have to be in Indian Land tonight by 630.

halls for a second and answer any questions any questions well we talked about you know playgrounds very important in this park and with this additional revenue coming in from the nine hundred twenty thousand dollars and you know we're talking about naming rights and all that is that You know, at this point, that needs to be incorporated into the, you know, grading of the facility before it gets too far.

I don't disagree, and I think we are considering that. We're trying to figure out. We want to make sure that we have the funding to do what we have on the screen. We think we may have some additional funding to go ahead and look at the playground and that we need to get the contract. all of you know there's going to be some significant dirt that has to be moved so we're going to be in that phase for a little bit working through tim has been working through chris has been working through sort of a timeline with our contractor to figure out some critical dates where we need to be making final decisions on certain points playground would be would be one of those decision points

And I know you hadn't been here a long time, but the big concern for the residents up there is going to be, you know, the traffic coming in that main entrance. But I think there's a possibility of another entrance coming in. Is that it?

That's not it. That's an existing road. The one you see there at the bottom is... That's the existing road?

Existing road.

We have met with the adjacent property owners just last week. I think once we get through the UDO and get it adopted, we will start working with them for their property. They are agreeable conceptually to us providing a second entrance to the park It's going to be purely a function of cost. I think you all know the topography of that piece of property. And running a road through that adjacent parcel to get to this parking area is going to be a considerable feat. It's absolutely doable. I have a bad habit of saying everything's doable with enough time or enough money. And we can get a road here. I think we need to better understand what the developer's plan next door and then be able to attach a cost to what another entrance road would look like.

I know we have a lot going on, a lot going on with the new financial software and all, but over the last few years, the revenue from our hospitality tax and over the next year or two should be going up significantly and it should have been last few do we you don't have to you probably don't know the answer but the do we audit any of this to see who is actually if if the businesses are actually paying i know in the past i've you know years ago looked and the restaurants weren't charging it and i would turn it in but I think we need to make sure that, you know, that everyone is paying this because that's, you know, some of these new restaurants are doing three to five million a year. You know, when you get to Texas Roadhouse and Chick-fil-A's, they are big revenue producers.

I don't have an answer.

Okay. But, I mean, that's something they would just put on the radar in the future.

A few years ago, and the fact that we don't have business license, we can't keep up with it. But I think at one time we did do an audit to determine whether they were paying. And I don't know what effort it took to get it done.

I'll check into that and find out. We can also pursue the avenue. I think the developer of Roseland would probably be willing to contribute some of the funds because they want that entrance as well.

Quite candidly, I mean, the neighboring development is going to be fairly substantial. There's an opportunity there to look at what revenue will be generated by the neighboring development, and that would be a different funding source that we can evaluate.

Any other comments? I want to clarify on the field at USCL. Chris might answer this. I don't know. they're going to use that field, but when we let these tournaments come in, are these players from USC going to show up down there and think they're going to practice on that field so that will be controlled to where they can practice over on their old field or something, right? Yeah. I just don't know conflict, because we're going to depend on these tournaments to keep all this stuff going and these businesses supported and everything that's going to be coming in for this with tournaments. So I don't want to get down there and go have a tournament, baseball tournament, and ain't but two fields to use, and USAL is trying to do something on one.

I said he'll run them off. I said he'll run them off.

Okay. I just want to make sure we don't run into any issues there and think.

I think on that particular concern, I mean, I think that's very easy to manage just through good communication and partnership with USEL. I imagine they'll have to end up being eventually some type of a MOU or some type of an agreement with USEL that sort of outlines the scope of their use and what their responsibilities are to maintain. That's where I would normally want to address something like that.

I can't see Chris from here, but move over, Brian. You say you can handle that, Chris? You can handle that?

That's all you can do.

Yes, that'll be handled. We've already been talking for a couple of years now at USCL about this and how we'll manage their schedule in the fall and spring so that we can coordinate our programs and then hosting tournaments as well. A lot of the tournament use from the Diamond standpoint would also take place in the summer months, late spring and summer, because that's when the older age groups typically, when I say older age groups, the high school teams, from a travel standpoint, that's when their tournaments take place. So there'll be plenty of flexibility built in for us and we'll be able to manage that accordingly.

Mr. Graham.

And I'm sorry if I missed this. Assuming everything goes as it's hopefully supposed to, what's the end date, roughly? October of next year.

If all goes according to plan. Again, there's a lot of dirt that has to be moved, and that's very weather sensitive.

So it's 12 to 14 months, basically, timeline.

on the winner any other questions or comments Thank You mr. Tucker just reminder August 25th August 25th high noon we'll be doing that groundbreaking we'll send another note out to you just to make sure wrong don't give him something

I think I've said everything I needed to say about this.

Thank you all.

All right, thank you. We're going to move on to item 6B, review of the unified development ordinance, public input sessions. Mr. Sean Scoopmeyer, UDO consultant from White, Smith, and Cassini.

Good afternoon, everybody. I'm actually Tyson Smith with Whitesmith Cousineau, but Sean Skutemeyer is here from Whitesmith Cousineau. I'm going to kick things off and give you sort of an overview of where we are on this project and what your expectations might be as we head into the fall and the adoption process. If we want to get into specifics tonight with this afternoon, we're happy to do that. I'll just leave that up to you. if you would and then we can bring sean in sean's been the recent uh architect of the latest draft of the udo so he's here if we do have questions jerry do you mind backing me up one there sure and i have a plan here um so project timeline very quickly we were hired a few years ago to undertake the rewrite of the udo your udo now was adopted in 2016. we started off with an assessment of the document us looking at it and giving our input and also hearing from you from staff on what needed to change One more second, Sherry, please. Thank you. And then we put out a final full draft about a year ago. And then the ad hoc committee was formed to really dig through that during the period of the moratorium. So we're at a point now where, having done that work and produced another draft, we're ready to bring that forward to the public and to you and to the Planning Commission as well. We're here now, one more time please, thank you. We're here now, yesterday and today, to have open house sessions. We had two yesterday, the first at two o'clock yesterday with the design community, land development, land use professionals. Very well attended, we probably had about 40 people in here. We were able to share with them what we were thinking and they were able to give us feedback. We have tried to focus these open houses towards a format where it's a lot of one-on-one opportunity. So we're able to sit with, these are two hours long, and we're able to sit with anybody that has a question and answer their questions, clear up misunderstandings, clarify what the options are and aren't under South Carolina law and that sort of thing. Last evening we had our first general public open house of this week and that was at 6.30, very well attended, pretty well attended I guess I would say. We're having our second tonight up in Indian Land and we expect good attendance there and we'll continue on from that point, okay. I want to just touch on a few things regarding the concept of the UDO and the approval process that you may hear from your constituents to make sure you're able to give them clear answers and get information. One of the ones we always get is, are there more regulations in the new one? than there are in the current one. Nobody wants more regulations. The reality is this one probably has fewer. We've been able to take some things out that weren't working or don't seem to be working, like the mixed-use district, and also to streamline a few things. For example, your zoning chapter had three chapters in it that we were able to consolidate, that sort of thing. However, if you flip through it, you may say, this one has more pages than the current one. I want to encourage you not to focus on that or to have anyone do that. I'll also encourage you, if you flip through it and flip through the current one, what you're going to see is there's more white space in this one. The text is easier to read. The headings are bigger. There are a lot more graphics and illustrations in the document. suggest that it's a lot easier document to use even though it's got a few more pages. So at any rate. Okay, next. Will my property, will this change my property? So what we wanted to point out here is there are no changes to base zoning districts in terms of your zoning map associated with this step. This is just a text amendment with one exception. There is a proposed extension of the highway corridor overlay. It's now a 160 and part of 521 to add a piece of that from 521 to the city limits. of Lancaster and then also a portion along Highway 9. But other than that, people's property would not be rezoned as a result of this step this fall. What's the most productive way I can participate? Read the materials, review the materials, know what's out there, know what we're talking about, ask questions, and then give us your feedback. This applies to you all, to your planning commissioners, and also to the community. This is really, really important. We know that these are long documents that are arcane and complex, and there are a lot of different factors at play when we talk about what guides land development. But we've tried to also make it very simple to understand. We are posting the boards that we used last night, which we got a lot of good feedback on, where we've basically done a poster board for each of the major changes, and there are about seven or eight of those that we've identified. I think they're helpful. They'll be on the website probably tomorrow, if they're not already. Ask questions. And again, this goes back to the idea with the one-on-ones that we're doing yesterday and tonight. If we can hear the questions that people have, if we can hear the concerns people have, we can respond to them. And if we can respond to them, then we're getting good information and good conversation back to you. And then feedback is critical. So one of the feedback components that we know we're going to have questions about is... Will this affect what I can do with my property? So we try to provide a path that anybody in the county that owns a piece of property or is curious about a piece of property can walk through the steps of knowing what applies today and what would apply under the UDO. And that is in the frequently asked question number nine, and that's on the website, and I'll give you some guidance where that is now. But you can direct your constituents to that as well. So they'll know, maybe this doesn't affect me, maybe it does, and if it does, here's how. So on the website, we've got the draft posted, of course. It can be downloaded there. It can also be reviewed there. But you can also insert comments there. And you can see where other comments are being put in by anybody in the community can do this. You can respond to comments that other people have had. At the end, we will assemble these and provide them to you. So you'll get the direct feedback from your constituents that they've put into the UDO. We also have here, Sherry, if you would go back one, please. The FAQs are there. We spent a lot of time with the subcommittee on the FAQs. We shared those with Brian before we posted them because they aren't just toss-offs. These are things that we know come up and they can lead to misunderstanding. So we tried to address some things at the baseline level. And I mentioned the open house boards will be up there as well. And then finally, there'll be a link on the website for anybody to click on to send questions to staff. can answer them or they can bring us in and we'll help answer them so that's critically important as well and then finally I want to just talk about where we go from here after tonight's open house in Indian land the planning commission will take this up next Tuesday night Sean will be here with our other colleague Kelly Cousineau who some of you will remember has been involved in this from the beginning and they'll meet with the planning commission next week there'll be public input and they'll make a recommendation to you of course and then first reading is scheduled at this point anyway for september 14th and then second reading september 28th and then final reading october 12th and of course the moratorium on residential expires around the 10th of november i may be off a day there so the goal would be to get this buttoned up prior to then Final comment I'll make, just recall, as you well know, if you've been serving for a period of time, these things change and they're made to do that. We try to build these things to be as durable as possible. That's why all the public input is so important, that we find sort of a consensus solution. So we don't have to change them often. However, that will happen. And I think the critical thing here, we've heard from staff from the very start, was we've got some structural changes to the current UDO that need to be addressed in terms of procedure, readability, usability. We've done that. The second thing, of course, that's important is we've got new residential development opportunities, or options rather, that are in this that will respond to the moratorium and some of those critical pieces. so i think even if there are little parts that we need to address later or you need to address later the udo is still solid and responding to the main concerns of the project so we'll take any questions you have and uh

As Brian said, we'll head to Indian Land for our... Mr. Chairman, can I just make a couple of comments or observations? I attended both sessions yesterday, and there is a lot of interest. This room was full of builders and developers, not only for the panhandle, but for... especially north of Lancaster on. Came to the meeting last night and was really disappointed in the turnout. The only residents were here were audience members that come to our council meetings. I think there's four districts here that we had nobody from our districts. In the lower part of the county from the middle down, so to me that was disappointing. There's no more interest from, seems like two thirds of the county. than the Panhandle, and you know, they've done a great job of putting this together. Just a question about the adoption process. There are, you know, it's a great document, but there are a few proposed changes when it comes down to first reading or whatever that on like percentages of open space or something like that. Are we gonna be able to make minor changes without this thing going all the way back through? Because it won't get improved. But I mean, it's like anything, this is an ordinance. And will the county, will the council be able to make a change in this proposed document without running into issues with the moratorium?

I believe so. And I would say, again, back to your first comment, I was a little surprised by the lack of attendance last night also. That said, there are still at least four, five counting tonight, opportunities for the public to participate and have comment and have questions. So, I mean, I think we can continue to advertise and publicize the rollout and make sure that we continue to push and push and push, and we will do that. As far as changes, up until October, assuming we're able to stick to this timeline, up until October 12th, we can continue to tweak. I mean, we've had a couple of staff conversations already about things that we already recognize are probably going to have to be dialed in and tweaked a little bit. obviously when you start looking at major wholesale languages to section and chapters, it gets a little more difficult, but it is still very much in draft stage at this point. And so I think that's honestly where these public input sessions are the most important. The most input that we can get and get the most feedback we can get between now and August 18th, it helps us edit the document before we get into the approval process. Once we get into that, you know, we have to be careful not to get too crazy about the changes. But even up until October the 12th, I mean, there's opportunities for tweaking and dialing in. And again, to Tyson's earlier point, this is still a pliable document even after October the 12th. It's just a different process to amend it at that point. And so, I mean, yes, there's opportunities to continue to refine it.

Any other comments? I got one. I got trust and faith in what has been done here with the firm y'all leading it, our staff in on it, and our ad hoc committee that was in on this. And I feel like it's a living document, and there are going to be some changes. But we've got to go with it, and I just feel good about the group that's put it together. and everybody knows there's always gonna be some changes that we'll have to make down the line, and it just happens, but we gotta start somewhere. Thank y'all for what y'all have done.

Any other comments? No, I mean, they, I mean, they were, I talked to the developer of, of like Dollar General, and you know, they, they, they, they run into the same issues everywhere else, but he, he was telling me what they did in Sumpter County, and I don't know if I have this exactly right, we have the rural business, but we limited it to like 5,000 square feet, and that you're not gonna have any buildings over that in a rural business. zoning classification but they they have if you want I think they said if you if you want to build something between five and twelve thousand square foot they they use the same regulations they do in the overlay district so the communities get the nice building with the landscaping and they just don't get a metal structure know in their community and that's that's one possibility you know and and then my other concern is uh we we talked about open space and open space and you you can you talk to to jose and stuart but i still have a concern with the mdr we need to i would like for us to dig a little deeper in that before the final document. But most everybody I've talked to, this is a lot better document than what we've had.

My wife and I have a running joke. You can drive through the least dense populated areas in the state and come to a crossroad and there'll be a Dollar General there.

Yeah.

Is there any other comments?

I just have a clarification because I think it was one thing that came up during the ad hoc committee. So what are the requirements for approval of a minor subdivision? Because we had talked about that, right?

Didn't we? We had mentioned we wanted all commercial, any commercial that's subdivided would be a- Would come through us, right? Is that in there?

So there is some things that we talked about on the ad hoc committee. as far as minor subdivisions and creating lots off easements or road frontage. When they provided me with the document, the things that we talked about, the process was not in there. But based off that overall adult committee meeting and being transparent, we were going to leave that in there. But I'm going to make a recommendation to the Planning Commission that we amend that and change that being that if you're going to create a parcel, it has to be with road frontage or have family exemption. But as far as commercial, if they're going to build a road to create parcels, those are going to have to go through the preliminary and the final plat. So process being the planning commission.

I thought we had talked about having council review all of those if I recall correctly is that what we discussed I don't remember council being that was going to approve it I remember it going through the planning commission yeah I don't know if with that planning commission has the final say so in a subdivision plant whether it's commercial or residential right yes but they would have to It would have to go before them. Okay. Is that what you were thinking?

No, I knew that process wasn't here at all, but I wasn't sure if we had said that it would go through planning commission or planning commission and council. So that's what I was clarifying.

think this we said planning commission and the state code says planning commission on creating you know a subdivision and creating a road with the right of way um and so that's that is when we wrote that with the consult we just left because there was a lot of talk and a lot of different opinions and that type thing so based off what they heard they left that in there but i remember us saying that we we need to have road frontage yeah family exemptions, we need to get away from creating substandard roads. And so we're looking into that, and that'll be a recommendation to the Planning Commission that we need to amend that in the UDO.

Yeah, I would probably suggest if we can go back to that section and the conversation that we had on that one, because I think it was pretty important because- Yeah, because certain situations-

Councilman Louie said. I'll just leave it as it was pretty important. You also asked about the issue of commercial subdivisions. Yep. I think that there was some question among members of the ad hoc committee whether that got into this document. So it's in 12.2.2.2 A3. It's in there. You've just got to dig and find it.

So sorry. That falls under the Planning Act, I guess, of South Carolina, that the Planning Commission has the approval of subdivisions.

That's right, so it would be reviewed by the Planning Commission if it's a non-residential preliminary plat. Even if it's two lots, and even if it's on the road frontage, it's still going to require... What section was that, I'm sorry? Yeah, it's 12.2.2.2. So it's under preliminary plats. It's really just applicability. under preliminary platts, under procedures.

But it says preliminary platts, major subdivisions. So maybe we just need to strike out the major subdivisions?

Well, I think that, you know, we say major subdivisions because it just kind of helps people find where they're going. I mean, we can certainly strike it out, but

Yeah, because I think it also says in 12.2.2.2a, generally major subdivision preliminary plat review applies to all proposed that don't qualify for review as minor subdivision. So I think that's exactly what we're trying to get away from.

It either needs to be a minor or a major.

It's just all. Yeah. It's all.

So I'll just add one thing to what Brian said. So what we've done here in this draft is we've tried to represent what we understood to be a general consensus from the subcommittee. And that was, gosh, what did we start with, 74 decision points or something? So we did pretty well, I think. So our goal was to make this reflect the general consensus. Clearly, they have a few loose ends. The process here will be... Once this goes to Planning Commission, we'll hear from them. We'll fold that in with the draft that's moving towards you all, and then we'll fold in the public comments that move towards you all, and the decision sort of keeps going that way. So it will all be before you, and we can get as deep as you need to make it say exactly what this council wants before we get to October.

the only other comment that i had is i know we talked about having enough people here and access from the public if we were to have town hall town halls with our constituents is there an opportunity to have kind of the presentations that you are just so that we can share that during town halls and kind of go more broad with these conversations um

Sure, I mean, we can make any of the materials available if that's the question, but work with you on the out, yeah.

Yeah, I think it would be helpful just to have the same conversations, the same materials that we can go through. So if we did want to have additional conversations, they would be consistent with what's been presented before. To Mr. Harper's point about just getting it out more into the community.

I think some of the vision boards you have posted, those would be, good conversation starters to look at some of the key points, and we can print out some larger ones for the, if you know you're doing a town hall, if you know you're doing a public event, we can make some of those in a larger format for you to use. Okay, I appreciate that.

Any other comments, questions? All right, we'll move on to item 6C, which I think we might have just covered, but...

I think we did. You just covered that. I don't know if Sherry wants to run back. I mean, again, it'll be in front of Planning Commission next week. And if all goes according to plan, which it needs to go according to plan, third reading before you would be October the 12th. I think the moratorium expires mid-November, November 10th. So that gives us little bit of wiggle room but not much um so again i would go through and and for all of you that have been in the weeds on the the development of this you know you know spend the next week going back through it making sure the points that you wanted to be in there are where you thought they would be and again any any significant edits if we could make those before it gets to planning commission that would be better

Mr. Chairman, if I can, to answer Councilman Harper's question, if there are substantive changes that you all make, yes, it does have to go back to the Planning Commission.

I'm talking about percentages or setbacks.

Well, if those are considered zoning changes, amendments to the language and to the substantive changes to what is proposed, then yes, it does have to go back to Planning Commission, and they have 30 days to turn that back around to you. I say that because of the timeline and the moratorium.

It's gonna be impossible to pass without, you can't change a percentage on open space.

I think substantive is gonna be up for debate.

Agreed.

Yeah, that was gonna be my question. What does that actually mean? What is the definition of substantive?

I mean, if you strike out a- It's not a minor change.

Correct. Yeah. So if we're making minor changes, I think we're fine. I think if we're going on an open space, if we're changing an open space percentage from 30% to 5%, that may be a substantive change. If we're going from 30 to 25, maybe that's not, but I think that's a discretionary definition.

Any other comments?

Can I make one other statement? Go ahead. In regards to Platts, please understand that 629-1150 of the state code says that Platts must be approved by the Planning Commission.

No, I wasn't saying circumventing. I was saying going through them first and then going to council was, I think, part of the question.

Well, their final approval, though.

Their final?

Okay. And then any appeal from that goes to the circuit court. So county council can be involved, but they are not a final approver. And then it can be appealed to the circuit court.

So then it would be planning commission where any plat would go through. Okay. And that's the change that we would have to make in these documents. Okay. Thank you for that clarification.

All right. Any other comments, questions, concerns? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.