Council - Regular Meeting
The Council received a report on the town's inactive License Plate Reader (LPR) system, with the Chief recommending against its reactivation due to equipment issues and public privacy concerns. They also approved the recommended 2027 beach renourishment plan and conditionally approved a preliminary subdivision plan.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Council
- Meeting Type
- Council
- Location
- Kitty Hawk, NC
- Meeting Date
- September 8, 2026
Transcript
264 sections
Welcome everyone to the public meeting of the 8th of September. The Councilor Mons will be excused tonight. We are now going to give the oath of allegiance and observe a few minutes of silence before the oath of allegiance.
The flag of the United States of America to the Republic, because it constitutes a united nation under the authority of God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all.
The council has a motion to accept the order of the day tonight.
Madam Mayor, I vote to approve the order.
Second.
Et tous ceux qui sont pour?
Ce soir, le chef Kalovics présente un rapport sur la technologie et appui. Un.
Et chef, êtes-vous prêt? Merci.
Good evening Mayor, Municipal Council, Director General. Nice to meet you. Tonight, I'm going to give you a little overview of the RAPI systems, and more specifically of the RAPI system that we had here in Kitio. If at some point you have any questions, do not hesitate to stop me and I will answer you.
Here is a little of what we have at the moment. I was talking to you about what is LPR, now LPR, how?
We have used this technology.
In the past, we are today, we see... As I showed you, I told you about it during the workshop last week, this is the definition of the state, of what KLPR...
It is defined in the General Law, 283. A system of one or more fixed or mobile cameras, automated at high speed, used in combination with computer algorithms to convert images from registration plates into readable data by computer. This does not occupy a traffic control photographic system as defined in the GS61 standard. by the International Association of Police Chiefs of the IAP. They are in a way what they describe as an ALPR system.
The IAP systems work to automatically capture an image of the registration plate.
They transform this image into alphanumeric character with the help of optical character recognition of a signed software.
We are talking about the number of plates that there are, or several databases of suspected vehicles.
When a suspect vehicle has been observed. the systems. It contains the geographical coordinates of the place where the image was captured, the date, the time and the register. The system does not call anyone. It does not access personal information of anyone by means of its character analysis of the registration plate.
The data captured by Uniter API itself is entirely anonymous.
Officers can't identify the owner of the vehicle by asking for a government-based and secure database containing the records of the vehicle's registration plate, which restricts the vehicle's registration plate, which restricts... ...as well as the International Association of Police Chiefs, which describes what a RAPI is.
...or a RAPI... We've heard you talk about the way you put a RAPI in the...
The LPR technology started around 1976.
It became more common when the law enforcement forces made their appearance in the 2000s, partly because the technology had decreased.
It was one of the main obstacles to its launch because its cost was very restrictive. National security, the fight against terrorism in the United Kingdom when they introduced us for the first time, the location of stolen vehicles, the location of people searched and the supply of tracks in criminal cases. LPRs are either fixed assets, usually mounted on a pole or a fence, or mobile assets placed in or on vehicles. The high uses that are linked to the application of the law include retail stores that use them at the end of marketing, the conversion of data into information on the behavior of customers, demographic data and the frequency of sales, as well as the measurement of peak hours, the management of parking, the aid to the payment permit, the application of the law, the application of the law and the security. Access control, access to the regulated areas, automatic opening of the barriers, control of parking by recognition of the registration plates. It is seized to help drivers in the state of emergency and the active order agencies that seek to recover the stolen vehicles. So it tries to seize.
It evokes, has therefore launched its NPR program, excuse me, backwards.
The county of Dyer launched its LPR program in 2014. The cities of Southern Shores and Dulles also joined the program at some point before 2019. In 2019, the police department of Kitty Hawk started using LPR technology here in our city.
The funding was obtained through a $36,000 grant from the Dark Community Crime Line.
With this money, the city bought two cameras.
The Chariot of the Counties of Zahir was the main administrator of our application until 2024, when the department of the Chariot Next slide. Next slide. When you set up a program like this one, you must have a reason for what you are trying to do and what your goal is.
We cannot install technology without understanding what it can do, right?
Our goal is therefore to cover all the entrances and exits of the city.
We don't put it everywhere. This simply allows you to know which vehicles entered or did not enter the city at that time. Then all the other elements of the list of hot spots I'm going to talk about.
Well, at that time, we went from 14 cameras to 2 cameras. In 2023.
Because the Dard border began to get closer. The other cities... The efficiency of the program, the coordination, the sharing of resources with our other cities, our other local bodies in charge of the application of the law here.
When we do something like that, it can have an impact.
We use this type of technology. We are trying to be in our program here. We should add more. but it is also an area that is no longer covered by the automatic recognition of registration plates, while it was everywhere. I don't know if this answers your question.
This has an impact. Take an example of this. Being able to do this and having the entrances and exits of the street allows you to know who is entering and who is leaving.
Please understand that I am talking about a vehicle. We have no idea who. That's what I'm referring to. So we know which vehicle it is.
This allows us to better understand where and when a vehicle is on our territory. A good example of this was produced a few weeks ago.
The car was stolen from us at the tourist information center here. An agent got on site, took the report, put a search warrant on the vehicle and was fired.
The police officer who worked there heard the search warrant.
He entered the vehicle in their LPR system and immediately indicated that this vehicle had recently passed through one of their readers, LPR.
He transmitted it by radio and told everyone where the LPR reader was.
And when the vehicle had passed through...
This left the police and police officers who were looking for the vehicle to get into the area in the 5 to 10 minutes following the verification of the LPR status.
He located the vehicle with a minor driver sitting on the passenger seat.
Fortunately, he was there.
They were able to get the suspect out of the vehicle, get him out without any damage, and more importantly, no one was hurt. You know, if someone in your head runs away in a stolen vehicle during a chase, you know, when he's young, there are a lot of risks and things go wrong. To get back to the impact, we had double cameras around the US 158 in Bardo and we cut our LPR in August. There was always a camera. Now, there is one. When you arrive on the US 15 or the US 158, entering in Keeney Hall, leaving the White Bridge, like the discussions you had with the firefighters, what an agency does often has an impact on other agencies, because we depend on each other to carry out our missions. A well-thought-out and planned system reduces the redundant applications of the readers, which could reduce the number of LPR readers. That's a little bit of the impact.
How does the system work? The upper system is composed of a camera connected to a port.
The anchor point is like a router that you would talk about on your usual internet. It distributes this information.
The camera takes a photo of the vehicle on the image board. The photo and the data are sent to Houston, where the servers are located.
Our system is a camera. Leonardo LPR. Lag is the name of the server, or system, in which we store our data.
Each agency has its own code. But all the data is stored under the service.
In Houston, these are the high-intensity drug trafficking zones, which you had already heard about, created by... Each state has one. These are federal services in charge of the application of the law... ...in charge of fighting drug trafficking and other types of... ...people are assigned to the office of Justin Aida to manage... ...they work daily with the system ensuring that it works correctly... ...they perform audits on users and data, provide training, access... ...and ensure that participating agencies respect their policies. All this is done for free for the city.
Given that states have data conservation for two years, the date of data conservation must be set. The states that require lower data conservation must inform AIDA and modify the period of data conservation of the agency to 5 years.
The North Carolina law allows data conservation for 4 years. To preserve information for longer, an agency must obtain a perquisition mandate of the state, a federal perquisition mandate, to make a conservation request. In a statement written under oath to the data depository, it must indicate the location of the LPR, the registration plate, the duration of the conservation of the data, and the specific and articulable facts showing the reasonable reasons to believe that these data plates are important for a criminal case in progress or an investigation on a missing person. The police service of Kitty has set our conservation period to 31 days at least, which was required by the state.
The data captured are compared to the list of people searched created by the LPR.
These lists of people searched are updated every 12 hours. The list includes information about stolen vehicles, stolen vehicles, stolen registration plates, people searched, protection orders, protection orders and missing persons. Announcements can also create their own list of people searched. When the registration plate corresponds to one of the registration plates of the list of vehicles searched, if the system is deactivated and you are watching it, you receive an alert on your computer informing you that a registration plate has been signaled to the system. A single alert does not allow an agent to take the slightest measure. The alert simply means that the agent must verify that the alert corresponds to what has been captured in the system, namely the registration plate, that the new rules are correct and that everything is translated as expected. The state where the registration plate is supposed to be. So you can have a Virginia registration plate, a North Carolina registration plate with exactly the same data, or funerals, right? If your vehicle you're looking for is a Carolina du Nord registration plate, which is a Virginia registration plate with its numbers, you have no authority to act.
You don't have any corroborating information.
The alert is still active. This person is in charge of the formation, creation, and realization of the group. So it's a bit like that that our information was used here.
Here's a picture. Show me a picture of it.
So this is it, there is a white area. It looks like a L in the middle of the page. She is the author of the registration plate and the map on this Google map.
Google shows you the length of the date and time when the registration plate was captured. It also shows you the alphanumeric characters of the plate. Where are we today and where will we be in July?
We started to receive questions about the system.
We noticed that our program, which had served the city well from 2019 to 2024, was out of breath.
In anticipation of the last two budget cycles, we discussed within LPR and the possibility of moving to the block as the rest of the services of the region. Each year, for financial reasons, I chose not to continue the passage to a new platform, choosing to maximize the return on investment of the city following the purchase of the new one. During the preparation of the budget of the university of 2026, we did not collect reading and therefore did not function correctly. As we are not looking for financing for FLOP, we have worked to put our system back online, to repair it, and to put the department back in phase with the EHAIDA program, because the DEI county would not manage it any longer. Since 2025, our LPR equipment did not work properly, we have tried again. The number of guarantees for the software that was associated with it. We have annual fees to maintain the support, the micro software and other elements of this day. In autumn 2025, we tried to solve all this, but in vain. We will not be able to solve the problems related to the roads in the direction.
We have appointed an agency administrator for advertising.
Members of our service have been trained to adopt the policies, procedures and confidentiality rules of Atlanta Carolina. automatic plate recognition system in operation and to always work. We continued to go back and forth with the suppliers to try to do it. In November 2025, Sergeant Gouard came to see me. We were there, he gave me the point on the situation and I informed him. At this stage, we were not going to renew the guarantee because nothing had been done and our guarantee was of no use to us.
We are not looking for funding for the exercise 2027, we are looking for the exercise 2027 to support our program. It was the beginning of the end of our program.
The system, which once included 14 registration plates, only had one functional reader for our entire city. It was divided by our practices and our internal training, which each agent had to follow before being able to access them.
The policy was in line with the status and the people of the city.
However, it was not adapted to our service. and officially integrated into our general orders.
It was possible and necessary to make our policy more solid, adapted to the service, and to include additional guarantees such as monthly holidays instead of the simple annual declaration, as well as to include a higher level of supervision control, and to formalize... ...only the procedure... ...to examine our access to our users...
In 10 months, we have searched for 14 registration plates. The last search for registration plates took place in February 2026. At the beginning of August 2026, he made another automatic recognition program by turning off the only camera that worked.
At the moment, we have only one camera.
Support plans that are running out, faulty equipment and a program that gives us nothing. I do not intend to reactivate the recognition of the plaque. It is one of those things that we say that we throw money by the window. To our mission, to our mission, to our vision, to our values of the use of technology to improve the efficiency and our capacity, our capacity, our capacity to fight against the community.
A program that we have implemented is a multiplier of strength for small agencies like ours.
Criminality is often associated with vehicles. This contributes to the safety of people and the community by minimizing the need for certain car pursuits to prove or, in some cases, very useful crimes. I think it is prudent for us to work on the already identified areas, create a solid policy, rely on the implementation of a usable program and meet our needs, and see how legal challenges have an impact on LPRs, so that we can make a judicial and financially responsible decision, designed to meet the common interests of our community and stakeholders. That's all I had to say and I will be happy to answer all your questions.
Boss, I have a few questions. A difference between the LPR and the LPR. I see that they are combined and that the definition has even been combined.
Some of those you will see integrate more artificial intelligence. I would say that the note is more on the basic side. What were its capabilities?
When you say the other ones, the ones that are not in operation, this one. Okay. Have you ever said that it was a federal law that kept information for 90 days? Something. What was it?
So each state. More regulation. With the data you collect via NPR.
So. China realized that each state.
It was initially fixed during the conservation of the data. It was reduced to two years.
And each agency that is in a state that has a requirement of conservation of inferior data, has it in an IOP format. This duration of conservation is fixed to the requirements of the state, which in North Carolina is 2.92. We fixed the same time, even lower, 31.31. That's all I have.
I have a few questions. So, if you don't ask for funding, where does this funding come from?
There is no funding.
So, you don't ask for a decision or approval from the Council to have flat candles at the IHO.
I'll just make a presentation on this subject.
Did I understand you well the other evening by saying that there are private cameras, such as the one from the ABC store, which does not belong to our jurisdiction?
Leonardo is therefore a private provider. All our data is then transmitted to the AIDO group, which is part of the government. It is managed by the Congress, financed entirely by 9 million per 8. It has a secure site and conforms to federal regulations regarding data. Excuse me for the databases, the databases, and only the government agencies in charge of the application of the law can access it.
One of the things you did not ask, but I will tell you if you know, we have concluded an agreement.
There are 402 agencies that have access to this data. So these are all police services, police and law enforcement agencies that have access to this data. We must all conform to it. And we all have to respect the policies and regulations that go with it to make it happen. If we don't do it, we're out of the program. Now, there's Comflux Safety, which is a private company, isn't it?
So they do all that.
They hold their own information.
They hold the data, but you are the owner of the information.
A bit like what we do. The difference is that what we saw was on a government site. And only the government is a force of the order.
You are not because you are a force of the order. You need to know the information.
You can't just access it. I have nothing. I have a follow-up question.
So, without putting the cart before the oxen, we have an email from the previous mayor that I read. If we do not ask to make flocks, I suppose that we are just making a presentation to the council so that they understand. That's all.
Their requests have been addressed to the council so that we expose our position on certain issues. What time with the officials we want to provide you with everything, what can we provide you with everything? What is the recognition of the registration plate? How did we use it? As I said, we have examined it for the last two years.
I think it is possible to improve our use of it.
We never came to see you. We didn't intend to do it for the moment. Nothing like that. You can't say that we won't do it. You can't say that we won't do it. You can't say that we won't do it. You can't say that we won't do it. You can't say that we won't do it.
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You can't say that we won't do it.
You can't say that we won't do it. You can't say that The police is just a community. We don't monitor it. There are things that I would like to see, but that we won't do because of the cost and the application that do not correspond. So everything we do in terms of technology, we submit it for financing. This was presented to the Council.
I think it was during the meetings of the Council of August 5, 2019, when, I remember, I was at the Council when it was done.
But you recommend waiting for the courts to settle things before taking action.
She was part of it.
I mean, it's not just the courts, we're the ones who get it.
You go back to what we said.
We are sitting here and we had this conversation and the way we do things here.
The examination of each policy, procedure and practice, to ensure that we do the right thing.
After having examined all the data we have here, I think it is in our interest to ensure that we have a solid and robust program to present to you, instead of simply coming and saying that we want to go and go to another place.
So yes, I intend to wait to see what the laws ... Before coming to see you, I would not come to ask you for funding.
And then, you know, you have to worry that the Supreme Court is completely changing something and that we need to invest in something else.
So for this budgetary exercise, there is no intention of having it. It's just something to present for the future.
And if it does, there is no demand in our budget for the budgetary cycle.
I tell you that I don't have the intention today, by presenting in front of you,
to present for the year 2028 a proposal to form a form of financing, to reactivate our LPR and to adopt a system similar to this one, which is not this intention.
We must collect the information to ensure that we have the infrastructure and the capacity necessary to continue.
As the councilor told me, if we work together on this subject, all the jurisdictions work together, we reduce to a minimum the expenses that we must make for each one.
I can therefore make sure that what we are doing is in front of everyone in order to support the global mission of the forces of order here.
I mean, I clearly want you to have all the tools you need to succeed. The reason why I asked these complementary questions is that if it was something we had talked about, I think it would be just to organize a public audience on the subject, to hear what all the residents had to say about it before I was inclined to go forward.
I therefore appreciate your answers.
Thank you.
Good evening, Council. Good evening, members of the public. I am here tonight to talk to you about the Rechargement Project for the Plages of 2027, which we are here for, to discuss and examine. It is a recommendation of our Coastal Protection Engineering Engineering Service. CPE for our concept of recharging the beaches of 2027 and I will give you a little context on what we know so far. Our first project took place in 2017. It actually suffered a major erosion and the volumes fell below the design threshold. There is always an objective for the place where they want the sand to be. The 2022 project has been modified according to the performances from 2020 to 2017. To date, this 2022 project has worked extremely well. Overall, the volume of the beach has remained above the design threshold. Here is a diagram of the threshold, which is the black tip line. You see a...
C'est-à-dire le seuil du projet qui reste stable.
La ligne rouge montre le déclin du projet entre 2017 et 2021. Et en bas, vous pouvez voir toutes les années. Cela commence en 2013 et va jusqu'en 2025. So just in the middle, or a little after the middle, you'll see August 2027. That would be mainly the end.
And that's where you see the red line go up very high.
And then he traces it until August 2035. And you see that it still remains above the dotted line. C'est leur projection actuelle. Ce n'est pas une garantie. Tout cela n'est que science et modèles, etc. Mais nous espérons que la poursuite de notre succès de 2022 finira peut-être même par nous permettre d'avoir des intervalles plus longs entre les... ...de la plage de boulot... Here are the individual performances of each section. You will soon hear about the northern section of the beach, the central section. Here, the north is blue, the south is purple, the center is green. And you can see how they have, in a way, divided each section, while the project went well in its entirety. Some sections did not come out well.
And that's why we're here tonight.
The project of 2027 is planned for 720 000 cubic meters of sand, which should be enough to last more than 5 years. This is the forecast. CP, CPE. Evaluate 5 alternatives using the 3D morphology model.
What do you think, Lily?
By examining different configurations.
These models are right here. The volume of the alternative is evenly distributed along the KITIO project area.
With an additional volume placed in space 20.
A density of variable range placed in the north centered in the south.
Derived from Alternative 3.
It will decrease in the majority of the northern section and increase in the central and southern sections.
Alternative recommended for information is Alternative 5 with a density of ground reduced to zero in the northern section and increased along the central and southern sections. And just one point of information, Alternatives 3 and 4 showed a negative change in volume over the course of the project, and Alternative 5 showed a positive change in volume.
Here you can see the northern section, which goes from Kitty Hawk Pier to the central section, which goes from the square to Lillian Street, and the southern section, which goes from Lillian to the southern border of the city, in the colonies of Niveau K. This is alternative 5, which again is not recommended.
The northern section of Kitty Hawk will not receive any remblais. The center of Kitty Hawk would receive more ramblers, then the south of Kitty Hawk would receive the highest rambler. The advantage of the fifth alternative is that a low density of ramblers can create construction problems and will probably lead to an increase in the unit cost. In addition, this alternative places the sand where it is most necessary.
The story has shown it so far. At the end of the day, the engineering and the personnel of the coastal protection, Liliana, myself and Lily are on this project and we recommend the fifth alternative.
We have a meeting tomorrow with all the other cities and we ask you your opinion tonight for this model of 5th alternative.
So all the inhabitants of the northern part who have paid the highest taxes for the resupply of the beaches no longer receive them in the cycle.
And the way we play things is to know if they want us to protect the whole beach of our city. I don't know what I think they have the right to. I was just wondering if it was a consideration.
The recommendation of the CPE was solution 5. And the difference between solution 5 and solution 4, they were really similar. There were just a few cubic meters more or a few thousand cubic meters more.
I asked why all these numbers were different.
Our project is 727.08. And he said he used them just for the model of our project. It would end up being the 727th.
So that being said, what would be the difference between solution 4 and solution 5?
Solution 4 has a negative impact over time.
It has a positive impact over time because you put more sand where you really have it.
David, can I ask you something?
I know that at the beginning I was skeptical about the restoration of the beaches, so we trusted the engineers. I think that's how it happened. I thought this morning, you know, we trust them.
Note that the beach at the northern end is beautiful and we still have very famous hot spots at the southern end. And I am quite confident that we can pass this message through our efforts to inform the public and try to move forward and ensure that we anticipate what some of you know that people could feel. Do you need a motion to take something? Or do you just want... I think you just received...
Everyone agrees with that.
Fifth option, madam.
Thank you. Let's now move on to the comments from the public. Then we have the comments from the public. The public is allowed to address the municipal council on any subject. Please speak to the microphone during the lecture and indicate your name and address. Lorraine, can someone sign up for a follow-up comment?
There are things for all of you.
Thank you for your time.
I am the organizer of Des Flocs d'Art, a group of citizens protected by technology, LPR.
And the mayor asked, why is everything going wrong now? The honest answer is that the technology itself has changed.
Two years ago, it was a flag-ladder in circulation. It was on a list of dangerous vehicles.
It has now become almost virtual. The name of the vehicles. It's very worrying for many people.
And it's the software powered by the AI.
It's not the LPR we had before.
You go to the church or you go to a meeting of the Arabs and you share problems with them. A lot of these systems are connected, there are flaws. What they don't share, maybe not with a lot of people who are preoccupied by what we love or what we detest.
I'll send you a video.
I know you all don't have much time, but it's a very well documented video on the global functioning of this technology. I've heard a lot about what they say about the FLOX public relations documents. Well, it's a company, and the public relations supports are intended to sell a product, and according to the research I've done, I think we're in the right place. I think we're in the right place. Absolutely. I appreciate that. But we can wonder if this is a constitutional problem or not. Because it creates a thread of movement So what I wrote is not entirely in line with what I wanted to say after what I heard Palovic say. S'il vous plaît, je préférerais que nous interdisions toute technologie RAPI. Car je ne pense pas que nous ayons la capacité d'obtenir uniquement les RAPI qui sont sur notre compte et qui sont certainement partagés au sein de notre communauté. Ce qui ne nous pose pas de réponse.
Le partage de masse et la quantité de données collectes et qui finit par leur appartenir.
Il y a eu beaucoup de questions sur leur contrat.
Est-ce que ça signifie réellement... I think a lot of people are trying to... Thank you. Good evening, everyone.
I love the way Kitty Hook takes things slowly and easily. It's not funny to get lost in every novelty, last novelty, best thing. And I think the chief has done a great job explaining the history of what the city has had in the past, what it has used, and how it is. A big part of the mess that we are hearing now, a big part of the emotion, a big part of the concern that people have, is that we are talking about these private companies that sell this technology to our police officers.
They don't do it.
It's up to us to keep an eye on what they're doing, to understand what they're doing, and to seriously and long-term think about what we're buying and what we're getting in the way of. And I appreciate the boss's attitude in this regard. I appreciate the way he manages things. And if you ever get there, why ? Before making a decision on this subject,
As I said, that's why I like to be with you. Thank you, Catherine.
Thank you.
Mrs. Clark, do you have her address?
Hello everyone.
Thank you, chef, for your presentation. It's great. And I just want to echo these last comments.
I know that you are always very faithful to the listening of your voters. You really take the time to analyze what is best for our county. And I appreciate that. I would say yes. Floch's technology is very scary because it is a third party entity and this reminds me that you cannot trust these third parties with our information. Let's take the example of our school system in North Carolina which has gone from primary school to a massive violation and your children We are still a very small town, a village and a community. And I appreciate the fact that we have not yet jumped into the water.
I was very proud during the meeting of the commissioners later to say that our city does not exist.
And I was able to attend this meeting and express my opinion in particular. Thank you very much.
I like the sand on the beach because I go there often.
And I hope that we can perhaps talk about the possibility of making White Street an official access to the beach. We are working on it. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council Member.
Dylan, I want to see you.
Yes, I just wanted to come to talk because...
I like the beaches here in Kitty Hawk. Certainly, I wanted to make a remark on this subject. As for the fifth alternative for the reprovisioning of the beaches, let's put some sand where there is erosion. I had very certainly modified the water regimen, which will create erosion in other places.
It was not bad.
Just... Maybe we should not have remblay.
It's too hard. I asked this question, it's too hard. I understand. In addition, afterwards, the engineers...
I wanted to approach the cameras. It was very instructive and I agree with some of the public's demands to say that the LSAT or the LSAC, I think it was Léonard, the registration plate readers who were static or installed on the vehicles of the fleet, was probably not a bad idea. These problems are almost certainly due to the fact that it is a private organization which is the subject of an investigation of the Congress. People cancel them all over the country. It is certainly not a technology in which we really want to go. I would even be predicting, saying that it would probably affect us, as residents of the county and all the municipalities of the cities, to propose a ban on some of these local surveillance technologies, powered by the IAEA, which power these large network that they essentially have. Article 1 of the North Carolina Constitution, section 20, is very clear on mandates. I mean, what would be the difference for a policeman who would hold himself back? We don't have the manpower to do it, but in general, you have to have a mandate or a suspicion of crime in the course of commission, on the point of being committed, in order to investigate. And I think it's for a reason. I mean, it's supposed to limit our government, so that we don't live in a tyrannical oppression. A top veteran member, member of the Armed Forces of the Army, served during I did a lot of surveillance work for the American government. I consider myself an expert in governmental surveillance, surveillance technology. I do not understand what they are supposed to be and we should certainly avoid some of these things if we want to protect our right to private life.
Guarantee my right, guarantee my right.
That's all I'm going to tell you tonight. If you have any questions to ask me, do not hesitate, I would perhaps like to obtain your coordinates if someone has other questions about these technologies or a future order. In fact, it is a proposal that I submitted to the Council of Commissioners.
Thank you very much. Thank you for coming, for making this trip. Let's move on to the day of the conference. All those who are for. None. Since no item has been removed, let's move on to planning.
Very good.
Tonight, we have a demandant who demands the approval of a plan to divide an existing 9.42 acres plot located at 4516 Clubhouse State Drive into four residential lots in the BR district. As the sea plot exceeds two acres and is divided into more than three lots, it is not considered as an example.
The examination of the personnel revealed that the proposed laws generally meet the dimensional standards. The proposed notation includes an important monomile.
An English would be necessary on the standards 103 and 104.
To reach the minimum surface area, we would need 15 square meters. Personnel a recommandé qu'avant l'approbation finale du plan, tout le remblais requis soit terminé pour atteindre les dimensions minimales requises et que tout les permis nécessaires soient terminés.
Par l'intermédiaire du corps des ingénieurs de l'armée, par l'intermédiaire de la juridiction des zones humides. So if the preliminary plan is approved, the landowner will have a name to finish the improvements, bring the remblais to reach a minimum size of land and submit the final plan for approval. You see, this is what was submitted as a plan. In this part, three others are proposed.
So the process, how it works, will be the preliminary plan.
And then the applicant will have to, according to your recommendation, fill it up, and then present it to you, submit the final plan for confirmation, right? The wet area. Go ahead.
Currently, as shown in the proposal, the three new laws proposed, try to zoom in a little. You see, there is, like on this one, this area here, is proposed to be filled to the side, which is square. So, in the current state of things, the three lots proposed, the new ones proposed, have not yet been signaled, because they do not respect this minimum of 15,000 square feet of the surface of the Earth. So, the demand could go and make the comeback now, and come back with the preliminary plan and the final one at the same time. But he chose to follow this path.
And then, once these lots have reached this minimum of 15,000 square feet, they will come back with the plan and will make it recorded.
Do you want to talk to the engineer of the Corps des Armées?
I haven't done it yet at this stage. The engineer has reported...
There is a pocket on this 102, I think it's the 103, this section here, near the road. It is not an emitting area. So it wouldn't need the army on it.
It is not under the jurisdiction of the camera either. So... But we would just need a copy of the Army Corps' term, you know, to authorize all this commotion.
How would you verify that it was filled? Would you ask for an updated report showing the edge of the field?
So, once they submitted the final plan, it would show what it really was.
Where is the real surface of the field at this stage?
So it's more of a concept. Then it would come back to show what it really was.
Can you develop this a little more, please?
I know that...
I'll just ask the question.
I'll just ask the question.
Rob, what is the difference between the shading of lots 104 and 103? It is indicated by national permit, where it is indicated non-jurisdictional, like the lot 103. But there is a little supplement added to the lot 104. Sur le lot 104, il est indiqué que l'ombrage indique que les terres humides non juridictionnelles doivent être comblées par droit de zone humide juridictionnelle à remplir par permis national. Et puis sur le lot 103, il est indiqué que les terres humides non juridictionnelles doivent être comblées.
Il n'est pas indiqué que les terres humides juridictionnelles doivent être comblées par droit de zone humide juridictionnelle à remplir par permis national.
Je me demande juste que c'est... Je ne connais pas ça. 104. It simply points towards the gray area.
The little legend just below. We have a different shot than the one displayed on the screen. Leaf 2 of that, or not? Yeah, leaf 2.
Yeah, it's... Why is it different from the other one? 103. I don't understand. So, there are three zones here.
Yes, it's just there where you can walk, where there are wet areas.
That means that the army has no jurisdiction over it. They can be filled without a permit.
The rest are adjacent wet areas. Where they touch, they are all connected.
It's there to obtain a national commitment.
So, I think that So you are non-jurisdictional on the 103rd floor and it is actually isolated from what we used to call an isolated pocket, a small pocket, just a small bump in there. And you're just going to feel this bump where this area touches a wet area. And why? I see the other one.
Thank you. I'm looking at the map. That answers my question. Thank you. Mr. Guiti, do you have a coordination with the Army Corps?
Oh yes, I already gave the document. The only thing I haven't done yet is to pay the compensation fees.
Are there any problems with the creation of a wet zone, isolated on the lot 102?
I've already gone through it.
I have all the pairs. I gave copies of everything to Rob. Now your filling on the LOS-102 creates an isolated wet zone because you fill in a kind of salt.
And I'm going in.
Okay.
Don't pay attention.
According to my past experience, the army corps did not seem to pass. I always understood that they were trying to avoid filling the wet zones that would create a pocket of isolated wet zones like this one.
We have received everything from the Army Corps who said that we were ready to leave as soon as I would have paid the attenuation fees. And I'm just waiting for the city's approval before paying the fees. I don't know if Rob...
It's understandable.
And the only other thing I mentioned that Rob raised. I don't know if we talked to one of you.
is that I was looking for a way to plan a derogation in the order for the filling, because I do not plan to continue to build on it before 2 or 3 years of retirement, which should already be the case.
So I was looking for a way to register this. Do you know if this contains an act restriction? Do you know that there is a caution to fill? Yes. Since we are simply examining the preliminary plan, the order of the ballot contains a section planned for a derogation of the ballot that the Council approves, for a derogation of the ballot that the Council approves, rather than an adjustment of the Council. If the Council approves the preliminary plan, then M would have the possibility to ask another audience.
This would be a public audience, where he could ask a derogation of the ballot.
He will do the filling. In the current state of things, I prefer to wait to be ready to put it in and do everything at once, rather than being ready to build on it.
But to be clear, it would be a request. So all you need for now is a preliminary plan, and it is a decision that we will obviously make later.
I would worry about the type of precedent. I understand your point of view in your case here, but I would worry about the type of precedent that this creates for all future preliminary plans to come, the construction of the road, the installation of the waterway.
Try to find a way to do it.
I'm sure my neighbors will appreciate it too.
Other discussions?
Other questions? Do I have a motion to be examined?
Madame la maire, je propose de recommander l'approbation du plan préliminaire de lotissement pour la phase 2 des domaines du clubhouse à condition que le demandeur démontre que la taille minimale des blocs est respectée avant l'approbation finale du plan.
Je vais appuyer.
Merci David. Tous ceux qui sont pour.
Je me suis opposé.
Merci beaucoup. We don't have any new cases, no old cases, and so let's move on to our reports. Okay. It's very busy with events. I am therefore happy that we have so many people in the public and I hope to see you at some of these events or all of them. First of all, I hope that the public will join us for the inauguration of our rescue service memorial. The memorial is a community effort and we are very happy to see it come together to honor our local heritage and the people who risked their lives to protect others. We will receive representatives of the Coast Guard, representatives of the rescue services. Nous avons le musée maritime qui a presque terminé la construction d'un bateau de surf qui fera partie de l'exposition. Nous sommes donc très enthousiastes. Le service de police de Kitty Walk, en collaboration avec des organisations confessionnelles, d'autres services municipaux et des agences de sécurité publique, organisera un festival d'automne Faith in Blue le 3 octobre de 13h à 16h au bâtiment du service de police. The event will include numerous activities for children, a visit to the police station, and a force option simulator, an interactive training tool used by the police to train to make decisions in a fraction of a second, escalation techniques, and recourse to force scenarios. So you can do it and see how you get out of it, how the situation ends. It seems very interesting. On October 8 at 3 p.m. here at the town hall, everyone is invited to come and see the project for bikes and pedestrians. The city and its partners have been working on this since last spring. C'est une excellente occasion de donner votre avis et de façonner l'avenir des efforts de sécurité et de connectivité de la ville. Restez. Et le soir du 8 octobre, nous organiserons notre soirée cinéma d'automne avec la projection de Casper et il y aura des friandises. Apportez donc une chaise et peut-être une couverture. Installez-vous confortablement. C'est généralement un événement très populaire. Cette semaine est très chargée. Gardez le propre Kitty Hoku. Le 10 octobre, c'est-à-dire samedi, à 22h, nous organiserons notre événement de nettoyage communautaire Keep it Clean Kitty Hoku. Veuillez vous inscrire sur notre site web si vous souhaitez faire du bénévolat. Un autre événement très populaire. Et enfin, j'apprécie les mots gentils du public ce soir lors de leurs commentaires publics. C'est agréable à entendre, surtout lorsqu'il y a une situation litigieuse. I also want to take a minute to thank our planning service, Rob and his team. They received two compliments last week and I wanted to salute their efforts for a well-done work. First of all, they were mentioned in the Costland Times by Kurt South, the program manager for the Baptist Church of Kitty Hawk, and he stated that it was a pleasure to work with them. Their planners and inspectors have worked with us all along the process and I think we have been very lucky to have this cooperation to advance the project. And secondly, I would like to thank your lovely staff, always available and helpful at the Kitiak City Hall. Jessica, Jessica and all the SUs. are so useful and understandable when I'm frustrated or when I don't know what to look for. They recently provided me with a survey for my archives. That's great. So please give them one more. Nancy Byrne, co-president of the Universal Unarian Congregation. And so, thank you. As a municipal official, good things are always good in the long run. Dylan, do you have anything tonight?
Do you want to go on a trip?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, it's okay. There's nothing for you. Okawi wouldn't have given me anything.
Put it back in my head.
Do you think he'll get it? Thank you. I just want to quickly thank Rob and the planning staff of SEACOP for these wonderful compliments. It's always a good thing. And thank you, boss, for the very informative presentation today. I thank you for taking the time to gather everything and to present it to us.
I would also like to thank the chief and all the people who came tonight and all the kind words you had to say on the council and the city.
It's good to have support and people who come to our meetings and who are aware of what's going on in your city. And I really appreciate it. Le bateau commémoratif de la station de sauvetage devrait être là jeudi. Et le livre, il a été construit à Beaufort et le livre jeudi, donc ils vont le joindre à ce moment-là. C'est donc un projet passionnant. C'est tout. Ai-je une motion pour ajourner la séance?
Madame le maire.
Et tous ceux qui sont pour?
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