Board of Selectmen - Regular Meeting

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So let's start.

So we're going to start our public comment session on any follow-up that we felt like we needed to do from the previous meetings. I don't have anything on my list. So we're going to public comment. Anyone here for that? So we will jump right into our agenda. We'll start over on the site with Japan.

I have nothing really to report from the police department. We have a lot of reports of the e-bike issues, a lot of complaints of them up and down the roads. So we've looked into it. The problem we have is the state has no regulations on these yet. So we talked to a couple of police agencies that are looking into creating ordinances for their towns, which they haven't gotten yet because they want the legislation to make sure that they can do this. So we are looking into it right now. How we're dealing with it is more or less, we get a complaint, and I take the kid's information and go talk to the parents or do the parents deal with it. Looking into these e-bikes, there's two different types of e-bikes when you look at it. There's e-bikes with pedals that are under 750 cc's that aren't supposed to go over 28 miles an hour. And then you have dirt bike types without pedals that are over 700 cc's. And right now, what you're seeing is they're both on the road And I think from other states that I've looked into, you've got to eliminate the dirt bike ones from being on the road. They're too fast. They're not designed for the road. They're supposed to be for the off-road, but they're not made for the street. So I think, you know, possibly that's what we're going to see. But as far as, you know, laws and, you know, writing fines, we really can't do anything with it right now. So... Did you say 720cc? Yeah. That's a big... All right. Yeah. It's... but there are two different times so that's that's what i'm getting at and what i see is the the ones with the pedals and the ones that are supposed to be on the roads and the ones without the pedals are supposed to be not on the roads but they get mixed in right now and you know no one knows the rules with this neither do we so instead of getting into the A place in town, is it just citizens, you know, people just drive around the road, you know, they follow and say the kids are in the middle of the road with their bikes, you know, they're driving along with traffic, cutting off cars, because they can do the speed limit with these cars. So they're in the road, driving under the traffic. Okay. Again, there's no rules on it. So there's no, they don't have planks like mopeds, they don't have anything on them. So, you know, hopefully the state Is it is, you know, seeing that this is an issue with this is ongoing and a lot of times through the state, you'll see something popping up at some point, but it's like a new segway. Yeah.

And it looks like by the class of the bike. Throws them into the different segment, but the class of 1 and 2, even. I mean, those are. Those are essentially being able to be written anywhere bicycle is, which is the road, which is any including. Yeah, so it's almost even less restriction than anybody else. Right? Right. There's no restrictions. Right?

There's not. So, this is only what I've seen from other states, how they've restricted it. I've watched, you know, watch a video with someone actually, um, in, you know, how they dealt with the, the 751 decisions and the puzzles. It's a long, you know, a roadworthy, but it wasn't valid. I can't tell you, you know, obviously the pedals make the difference, but.

Yeah, I mean, I guess that from sitting on the side of the road, watching it back and by, you're not going to be able to figure out the difference. Unless it has no pedals, it's basically staring at that, I can see it.

It's going to be, you know, at some point, the flaws come into place, and we'll stop, and we'll do it, and we make that determination. Most of these are kids. They're under 16. You know, they've got something that goes pretty fast now. It's on the road. We kind of have to, you know, so. But they know the laws of the world. And that's the problem with this right now. And, you know, crazy traffic and people, you know, having to break down or, you know, they're cutting them off. So that's a lot of times we try to find them. By the time we get there, the kids find them.

Have we had any safety incidents to date with these? We have now, okay. I'm not saying that's making sense.

Yeah, but there's been, throughout the state, it's all over.

I know there was a fatal one in Hampton, you know, the sperm.

I'll mention the Trix in front of her bed. Yeah.

We've spoken to a bunch of parents about it. You know, as of last week, and we don't think we had too many of them last week, and I think it's the same for the kids.

Chief Hart, they need to follow the same rules that a cyclist on the road would, correct? You know, if a cyclist, like an adult cyclist, and pardon my ignorance here, were to violate rule, you know, traffic rules and regulations, and a police officer were to see it, can they be ticketed for those?

Yes, but you're going to be challenged before because it's not really typically a one way to go. So these, you know, kind of can be considered a one way because they're powered by something else besides football, right? Mopeds at one point and scooters are kind of the same thing, but you know, even scooters need their plates for most of them. So again, it's just something we're going to be challenged with for a little while. You know, I think You talk to force because who's trying to create an e-cycle unit is what they're trying to do to force it. I guess they have a lot of problems. So we're kind of following on their direction of where they're going with this. And again, you can create an ordinance. We'll talk down here. I'm not sure how the ordinance voted through a warrant article or if it's two public meetings and something. Again, we have to look at the patient after the state on which way to go about that. Thank you. Thank you.

at the early start.

Actually, I have one question just for, just because I have some comments or questions from folks in town about the, I assume, any decision that you've made on that or what we should be telling folks who are asking about that.

So right now, I have signed everything. I don't see a need to split the town up with people who wouldn't be regarding it for now. You know, my decision right now is to kind of hold off. We're going to see how things go on the next year. And, you know, whether we maintain it again or not, we'll see. But, you know, again, we're just looking, you know, as, you know, partially with the budgets and stuff, we're looking for outside funding from different places is what we're looking for. And we're going to continue to look for outside funding, you know, as we continue these default budgets because we have to figure out

Thank you for the update.

So for the Friday comment, just got an update on the new tanker truck. It's still in Pennsylvania. I spoke to the dealer today and one of the compartments that we were having built, they built it, he saw it, he didn't like it, so he had him scrap it and redo it, which I appreciate. He just didn't like it. So I appreciate that. He said it should be hopefully done next Monday. And then they'll get a driver to drive it to the shop and the dealership in Mass. That should be probably the middle of next week, hopefully. So then we'll go down with our equipment so they can launch their equipment The next trip will be here. So that's the update on the tank control. We had a kind of a busy week. Thursday we went off for an order of gas. Friday we had a pretty good motor vehicle accident on South Road and Ainsbury Road. Three patients were transported. Thankfully, East Kingston and Edmonton Falls can help us, and we transported a lot. We had two medical calls on Saturday. Fortunately, in the process of those two medical calls, we broke our power lift stretcher and bent a pin, but that was repaired today. Thankfully, we have a service contract, so that helped us out. we were down here back to the old the old days when i was back in the ut we had a manual stretcher lifting people which is not great for anybody's back um so we're happy to have our power back um this coming tuesday night we are going to be in the exeter fire station doing a command um training class which is kind of getting all of the area fire departments to talk the same language. So if we go to anybody's scene or they come here, we're all kind of talking the same language and playing on the same play card. So that would be good. And then just an update on, I know it's in the agenda, but for the roof repair and water damage, I got two quotes. One from Diamond Hill, which was $36,276.17, and then one from JPW Construction for $12,865. I reached out to Great Construction. They nicely sent me an email, said, we're way too busy, so we're not going to bother you. I reached out to Dockum Builders. They were supposed to send somebody, never did. Never heard anything back from them again. We sat with a bunch of other construction people, same kind of deal. Nobody ever got back to me. So I would recommend going with the JPW construction. That's my recommendation.

Do you have any idea why those numbers are so widely different?

That guy gave me, he kind of broke it down into, and I have a cap, but he broke it down into interior work and then exterior work. So, and I think JPW was just going to do, he just did everything all together. We've used JPW in the past, but the window on the set, we haven't done some other stuff in the station. So he's very reasonable and, That's a good price point there. I'm not sure why it's so high.

Do you have experience with the one you want to go with? Yes.

We did the windows in the station. We had the windows replaced. He's done for us. He did the spray foam insulation. the heating system, so we used to have it in the past.

And with those, so it sounds like the work was good. Did he come in at his estimate on those previous ones too?

Yes, in some work. Yeah, most of those, the windows, the spray foam insulation, that was all paid for by the fire association. So it didn't cost the town any money. It came out of the association.

So obviously no one has the foresight to see things like water damage. So certainly I'm happy that the place you have experience with it is certainly a little over two. That looks good. Yep. Curious to anybody actually. $12,000 is an insignificant amount of money.

Do we know where that money is coming from? So we put it in the insurance claim of Primex. and I'm happy still working on that side of it because they only, for some reason Primix only quoted the inside work, but it would make no sense just to do the inside work and not fix from the ice cream that came from the outside in. Because the problem is it happened at the two editions, the 1990 edition and the 1970 edition. So that's where the problem was. And we're not even sure until we open up the wall to, you know, what's behind the wall. Is there, you know, is there water in the box? Is there water intrusion? Is it old? Is it, you know, is it rock?

Okay. So a transplant, I mean, I see here it's like a $2,000 difference anyway. And then...

I sent him the quotes that we got, and all of them included something that his didn't. So he was going to go back and talk to the adjuster that came out and tell him why he didn't think to include the report.

I did take the adjuster. I did the inside, and I took him outside, and I said, right here, to me, that's where it's coming in.

And then she went back and took more pictures and everything. So that's all of the insurance companies. Okay.

I don't have your portfolio looking forward. Yep. I would like to get it done before we get started again.

Makes sense. The motion to approve and authorize the estimate to $100,000 for the cost of $12,865, which appears to be covered mostly by insurance with the future scope to be updated. I second the motion.

All in favor?

Aye. And then the only thing I have for EOC is that We had our first drill this past Wednesday. Tom got to participate along with the rest of us. And it went well for my first drill for Kensington. We managed through it, so we'll be ready for our braided exercise later this fall. So that's it. The last drill was the June 3rd.

Yeah, I had that two-thirds cigarette in my room.

Yeah.

So, any of you want to say something, or would you like to read it?

You know, just for me, it was just getting used to, I hadn't seen this set up, so I wasn't sure, so I kind of put together a set up that I thought, unfortunately, my assistant EMD had a family emergency, so he didn't participate. so he has all the knowledge of how kensington works so like that he's like okay game on so i did my best um you know and you know we learned a few things you know we could get a little bit better organized but that was my first video here so yeah it was fun it was interesting and i think definitely uh you know some good takeaways yeah

Matt Rhodes.

Yeah, the road department made several bottle repairs on Great Water, Muddy Pond, and Oak Ridge roads, totaling 20 tons of mix. Road reconstruction bids are due by the end of the week, Thursday at 1 p.m. I've been contacted by several vendors answering their questions, and I anticipate a good pattern of bid response. Lastly, working on getting a few estimates uh together for a pulver replacement uh prior to behaving on some field road um we're going to update the old fashion the old failing metal cmp um pipe to a high density polyethylene hdbe plastic over it so like i said just trying to get people to do that so

Those, I imagine that's a lot longer.

Oh, yeah, for sure. The CMB is the outdated metal and road salt. Plastics are forever. I did notice the buckles that have been filled up. I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Um, tax collector, Carly, do you have anything?

Yeah, the app is going to be a little bit slow, probably like at 12% of the warrant, and next time we have to leave the assembly, we're going to have to go to the assembly. That's the only thing that I've heard. Thank you.

Uh, Gina? I'll switch.

Hello. I wasn't here today, but so I emailed and such. It's been quiet. As far as the building products, there's quite a few coming in, so I guess that's good. Building blocks is moving along. I got some photos of some work that's been started on the side, so they're finally that uh it's a little more on the side they're working on the pad now for the tank that's moving along um the reason why i wasn't here today i'm tripping a septic evaluate class um seeing the alcohol somehow i thought maybe uh i forget that i don't know what that was um So that's working on that. I might take the test for the actual certificate. I don't have to, but I think I might do that. I wish to have it on my profile. Other than that, I haven't read anything from the major. I haven't been by, but my understanding is they took most of the science now. The new topic.

Yeah, the new topic, yeah.

Which is good. The builder is on board with us to do whatever he has to do and make everybody happy. So I haven't heard anything from that, which is good. And that's about it.

On the side, because when I drove by, I think it was yesterday, I noticed that all the plain blue ones were gone, but all the ones with words were still there.

There are two there that social required. the safety statements don't come in, basically. So, and they might still be, I told them they'd have to take every one of their construction signs, their cobalt construction down. You know, it's a construction company, they put your signs up. So I just, I asked them to take most of them down and leave one or two of us fine. And I believe, again, I haven't been by my investment,

There's two of those construction sites.

I think there was one because there's two instances. So it has to be one of the community.

And those are important. You know, there's some issues with that.

And I will say through the police department, I had some issues over there with burglaries and stealing stuff. It's only temporary, but I think it's a wise decision, but now they get, they also installed, they got tools and everything else over there now. Yeah.

We've got a lot of people.

Yeah. Yeah, it's not that they retrofitted the post, whatever, microburst, you know, the nasty business was happening at the end of the day with a rather deteriorated system, but it seems to be holding up. They obviously took their time. Yeah, I've been speaking about it. Yeah.

Not in many other places, but. It fell into the rock, not into the rock.

Again, if they put rocks in it, it might have... Just put some wood on one side, drilled it in, is it essentially a... I'm sure the signs didn't help because it wasn't... Well, the signs are made from what they went through.

And again, it's still active as you see. So that's a plus.

And then moving along on that too.

Do you know also who had brought the permits for plumbing and mechanical forward to the board? We still have to do a public hearing of those. So do you have any things that...

So I didn't do much. Again, not getting anybody back. My mind is not where it should be. I think The fee schedule for plumbing, again, I looked around to surrounding towns. I don't want to hurt anybody. So at that, I'm thinking the residential will be 25, most towns are 35 or 45. And then maybe, I think of what I said, $3 or $4 per 1,000 for the plumbing and mechanical. And then commercially, it would go $1,000.

$50 and then $8.

Again, I wrote it down. I'm not using that right now. That's what I'm looking at. It's not going to hurt the consumer. Obviously, the contractor puts in limits for it anyway, but I'm trying to keep it low enough so that at least we have it. We're not doing, I am doing the inspections, but there are several coming in. We're just plumbing them just mechanically, and I'm not really doing inspections because we don't have those in place. So that's the role.

So do you want to set it for July? We'll do a poll in July, and we'll make sure that we get the fee by next meeting? Yeah. I'll do that this week. yeah i just wanted to make sure the board was okay with doing a public hearing for the fees in july so probably the first meeting in july i think we've been servicing that thing um and i can put it in the paper and do all that yeah before i forget the only text review about the uh the code change uh yeah and we'll have to discuss that with the budget um They'll have them in their new books.

So they just started the 2021 code in New Hampshire, like last July. And I just took the test for that code. And now it's July 1st of this year. They're going with the 24 code. So that means we just bought the books.

Yeah. And then my next test is going to be before you get the approval.

Gino, it sounds like on the plumbing side, you've done some research looking at some other towns. Would it be a bad idea to maybe grab four of them, right? And find an average and then make sure we're maybe- That's what I did.

Yeah, that's how I did it.

I don't want to sign a statement, but I would say if we can do an increase and- Again, I don't want to go- I'm not trying to-

completely the same figures with these other towns. It won't be long because we're a smaller town. A lot of the residents that live here in Longtown and other things down there also increased because of Birmingham. So I'm just trying to keep those notes now. And still be able to work with the paperwork and the bargaining that's going on.

Yeah, this is, this is like, I just, it's funny, it's funny to see them show up. So they just have like a set fee, but what Gina was talking about was doing it for $1,000, like he does the building permits already. Right. So that would probably be the better.

And today I was looking for a building, a lot of building inspectors, other building inspectors from Kingston, East Kingston, Hampton, so on. And we were talking about things that we ought to check. Some of them were just doing a flat fee for mechanical bunkers, flat $75. Others were $150, $150. Tank burns, we do $25. One town was doing $165 for a tank burn. We wanted to be one or two of them, but it's $165.

We're still at $25, which is .

What makes the most sense, at least to me, is the scale, right? For a thousand, it's a lot of sense. It was a big, massive project, and we spent $30 in the same place. Well, let's say it's very small, but I'd like to pay the same amount of money. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Yeah, I agree.

I like that.

Perfect.

Thank you, Gino.

Thank you. Thanks for getting on the subject systems. Appreciate it. Yes.

Um, Sarah.

Um, the dog, right? Um, the list of promising stocks for three 26. There are 12 that want to remain, um.

Which is unfortunate, hopefully.

but it is what it is i've been calling and emailing and trying to do everything i can possibly do um and everyone on the list i have personally spoken with or emailed them so i have only gone so i'm not sure what the barrier is but um you have this for you And I did also notify the animal control officer that that would be prepared. And this is what's there, that $25 fine.

The $25 for the forfeiture and $7 for the fee.

So it's in addition to the normal license fee, it's an additional $32 per dollar.

And I guess my only question is, If someone has a job that is no longer on the spread, but a young American, they can tell you that, right? They just say, oh, how's the final verification check?

So in addition to calling, emailing, trying to contact them myself, anyone who had an expired release certificate, all of those people that except the one I think was a current baby's vaccination. I called the vet and said, is there any way you can verify that this pet is still living? Or, you know, I tried to make some space instead.

Okay. That sounds very thorough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I appreciate that.

So, unfortunately, there will be 12 unhappy people, but...

I appreciate that. Well, something you've done to do it. So I always give fair warning, you have done so. All right, so what do we need to do? Okay. All right, I will make a motion to approve the board for unlicensed dogs in the town of Kensington. That's divided by the town clerk. And I will not read all the names. Whatever they are listed, there are 12 of them. I'm going to be second to shoot. That's probably enough information.

I second that motion.

I'm looking at the budget as far as finding two more options here to figure out how we do that. But I think that, you know, I'm talking with other members of the team and just other child workers in general, and I know they're creative, but I guess they do have some thoughts So I'm still working on hiring those details out. And then on Friday, I have an opportunity to go out of town with my family, so I will be close to the office during 9 to 1. But because Friday is the last day of the safe ground period, my deputy will be covering the legally required and free of open tax one.

In terms of Are there any initial suggestions on how to cover the gap for town elections? I mean, I mean, what what are I just a little more detail that's been discussed so far.

So. The good part about the state election is that they cover the printing on their ballots and shipping on the ballots. Which is like probably half the budget for an election. But there are still expenses like programming the and programming the assisted device for . And then staff. As far as things that I can control, you know, I have to tell my staff today that I can't feed them, but they need to bring their own meal and . That's really the only number other than the number of people that I asked to come help that day. Those are really the only two variables that I can have on that time.

I'm not aware. When we utilize the all-purpose gymnasium area at the school, is that come with a cost or is that?

It has.

Okay.

Other committee heads or anyone, other updates from departments and committees?

Ian, did you get a chance to talk with Pam from conservation today?

I did talk with Pam.

Do you want to share updates? I have her notes.

spray those. Alright, we talked about a few things with the conservation committee, but there's a couple of new members, which is exciting. People are getting, you know, interested in the town conservation side of things so that team will grow. There was a hunter on the Hodges, Charles Hodges land, which is not There's one thing that's allowed to be hunted there, and that is woodchucks. We love to hunt woodchucks. We've got a great spot for it. Otherwise, there is no hunting allowed. And I've been through there in the past as a citizen and seeing people hunting in there. And there's been decoys as much as recently as a little while ago. I should probably get aware of that. Officer Brown was there. So I know him. Call him officer Brown. So it's a little challenging because there's a lot of private land adjacent to the conservation land. And so it's really, well, it's not always done this way either. And so I can certainly understand not understanding where the lines are and what is and is not allowed. However, the person who brings his children into that area, I certainly do not wish to have hunters there because it's one of the reasons I go there. So Pam and team will be posting no hunting signs on the most obvious sentences, one on Stumpfield and one on Milton Ridge. So that will be happening. There was some damage to the sign on the Stumpfield side of things. There's a nice brown sign with yellow lettering. That will be fixed and repaired. Let's just hope that that was bad luck and not various activity. New property over behind, on Trundle Bend, behind the baseball field there, towards Sawyer Park. The trail that goes behind the baseball field is towards Hodges. They put up posting signs, so that is something posted. There's some land, so we'll just keep that in mind and work towards adjusting as we move forward. It's a dynamic situation. Yeah, that's the highlights. In terms of lodges, I think there'll be a lot of conversation with SELT, Southeast Land Trust, about what cannot be posted, where it can be posted. Technically, you need to post every 100 feet, 88 acres. That's an interesting ordeal. I'm not sure that's reasonable or feasible. So, I think you should be mindful of it. you can't post every 100 feet at 88 acres. It's just not going to happen. So, you know, how can we make sure that areas that are handing over to the town in good faith with certain requirements are handled that way? I don't have a great idea other than educating the town of what is and is not allowed and then as things happen, follow up with them and see if people talk to the citizens along the way. I don't think it's egregious or endemic. I think it's just something that happens every once in a while. So just keep that in mind.

You've got to see it here. I don't want to see it with other people or some people.

Well, that's probably what we're not going to monitor. Yeah, that's just everything. It doesn't say we can't mark it. Maybe we can mark it with paint.

you know, every so many places. You see some of the red markers trying to go, yeah, I mean, I think there's got to be a creative way to do this. I think it is important for folks in town to know that there's a quote-unquote safety environment where folks won't be walking around rifles during the big season. That is important to know that you're safe. But to your point, Chief?

It's not a fishing game, you want to say that it's not. not everybody has an internal gps knowing their problem there was at least something we maybe put something out there in the print market or something we posted on the on the side maybe that'll just show it and if someone sees me enough to say unfortunately they can cut up against the problem

And if you don't know the line, it's basically Boston. It's like a GPS.

And in North Carolina, exactly.

All of our department head updates will go on to new business. I don't know, Bobby, you have something to say?

Yes.

I'm here to ask for help. Up to this point, a set of promotions have been individual tasks.

The set their shapes into the microphone recording. Thank you.

State your name and your address. My name is Harold. I live at 154 Hainsburg road and I've been the moderator for now 16 years and have been responsible for setting up. And as I say, I would be there, but my doctors told me not to do this anymore. It involves taking all the equipment out of here, loading it into a truck, unloading it from the truck, setting it up in the room, and it takes its toll on the body. My volunteer pool is also growing older. And sometimes it's the janitorial staff at the school that does that in other instances. I don't think this school has that capability. So together, I think we need to come up with a solution to my individual problem of age catching up with me. So again, we've got two months.

Flex your muscle guys, you know, just just for more background info. What goes into something like that? Like, how many hours is it setting up the day before? Is it the day?

The morning of we are restricted to the time. We can't get it before 330 on the afternoon before the election. So it's done. It normally takes us till about 6 o'clock to set the room up. Again, physically there are, the election booths are seven inclusive. There are four per station. We have eight stations here. So there's eight sets of boxes. And then there's the handicapped tent, there's the stanchion, The fire department meets on Tuesday night for training sessions, so they have been the volunteers, and that is, I think, with their support will continue the breakdown. And that is done Tuesday night immediately following the closing of the polls. That's the Monday afternoon that's really the difficulty.

Harold, how many folks on average do you have to volunteer to support you on any given election? For the setup, yeah.

Can be myself on one person and myself and two people and Sarah has been kicking in and on regular basis, which I keep telling her it's not fair for that. It's not fair for her to be doing that either. And it's it's it's one of those historical things that's always been done in that fashion and history is set with that history behind us in the community.

One more. for the unrelated thing that we talked about in the previous meeting someone had the recommendation of eagle scouts the recommendation was eagle scouts this was for a different project altogether but i'm wondering if we had a couple of adults in town with the vehicles and you know to lead the process would that be something where we could engage some you know high school students who might be looking for those service hours or something too um

You run in parallel with the volunteers. It's kind of an issue, coordinating them, making sure they're there, and the good intentions, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. And we have to have predictability in this, which is what, again, it needs to be an institute sometimes thing, and not really, it is a great volunteer effort, but volunteers are not fail safe.

And this has to be a fail safe process. Harold, any...

I know you, any suggestions? So you said janitorial staff and other talents that can help to work out, other than asking common citizen to support, is there any other ideas that you have?

No.

I'll ask the association, fire association, if they want to step up and help with that also. Um, we do the, we do the take down because it's right after our meeting and then that's yeah, that's it. We just coming with our pickup truck and. Trucks and we load it all up. Okay. We send it back here.

So is there anything permitting elected officials to do that?

Or so, no, it's not the election officials. Normally we do that.

Is there anything preventing that from happening? Like conflict of interest, I guess, is what is your opinion?

No, nothing at all.

Okay.

High school community hours to school, maybe at the school with the hours.

Yeah, that's might be the, I mean, that might be the, cause she's looking for products in the community for building blocks and that's high school kids. and processes in the world. Thank you. Like I said, we have two months. Before the two months is up, we'll come up with some solution. I'll contact Brian.

Yeah, two months happens really quickly, though. I can't hear very well. Two months happens very quickly, especially in the summertime. When do you need to know

The decision, the answer, I would say by the end of by the middle of August. Because the election is the second Tuesday in September. OK. Yeah, pretty heavy.

Well, yeah, 40 to 60 pounds. She already has a small amount.

Stronger.

I'll be back to Sarah. That's awesome.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Next is sitting the joint loss committee meeting.

So we have to do those joint loss committee meetings quarterly. And we should have four of them a year. And we have not had them. So we are going to have to set a meeting. I'd like to set a meeting for this to start. And then I gave you packets. So you each have a packet of what That's been done in the past. Let me just pull it up so people can see it. So what I did is I went on and I bought the rules, which is 603, and it just tells you establishing the duty, duties, and responsibilities. Then I also went through and got previous meetings, minutes. It was Joe, Vanessa, so it was the three selectmen, Chief Payne, Sergeant Maywood, Chief True and myself. And then we didn't have any employees at this meeting. It's very important to have employees from either the building you're working on. So like if it was here, to have a couple of employees at that meeting. or if we're at the fire station, have a couple of the employees from the fire station and library, same thing. Just so that we're in compliance, we just reviewed a few things and then signed off on it. It can be a short meeting. They usually went into the town hall. The salt shed needed fire extinguishers back in 2020. I don't know if it hasn't anymore, or if they still have them. Yeah, I don't think so. We discussed different things about trips and falls and then there's a whole sheet that you can do a self inspection on. This is new. It was implemented after we had done these other meetings. So you could go through and actually just do like a checklist and then do a few meeting minutes to go with it. and and submit that is the last one that we did in 2020 yeah quarterly all right yes yeah um so we really should should jump back on this so we can do one in either july or i mean you could do it the hour before the meeting if you wanted to um if that worked um And then we could start with this building if you wanted to, so that we would all just like here.

That's one of my questions. Simply here, it's not going to go with us all at the same time.

Right. Or you could just, what they've done in the past. So in 2020, they appointed the then fire chief, which was John True, to do the inspections, but we're not sure where those are now. So we're going to just start and go from here. So if we can just set up a meeting and then maybe just do this building now, and then I can report to the state that we've actually done at least one of the meetings.

I like the idea of maybe an hour before. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. That's the highest likely to get us together.

Well, that's the highest likely to get us together.

Yeah. So we started with this building and then we go from there.

Right, yeah, it's scheduled, right?

Yeah, the 13th building.

Yeah.

It was a new community.

So we just all agreed to do that.

That's not good.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a new building.

We can put it on there too, but it's up to you. I feel like it would be too bad to have an end zone where we . Yeah.

When is it started?

Next budget. Can you hear it?

On Monday the 20th? Yeah.

No, wait, I'm looking at July. The 15th. There we go. So the 15th year.

Yep.

Yeah, that works. That was easy.

Perfect. Thank you. Chief, will you be able to be around so we can get in the upstairs? Thank you. And there's not going to get enough stairs. We need to move it on. Jeff, do you and Chief might go on over set with me in the next couple days to make sure that our checklist, like, at least looks good?

Yeah, I think we have code and stuff all over that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. We don't need it anymore.

Okay.

Perfect. Thank you. I will post that meeting for 5.30 and then regular start at 6.30 for next week. And then we'll just give you some information.

Thank you, Kathy. Thank you.

And we have the state agreement to provide officers and suppliers to always stop when they should.

Yeah.

And we've got two original copies signed on them.

This is so they're advertising and starting starting this week last week.

Yeah.

Do we have any idea anticipated to occur in 2027? Right. Anytime in 2027? We have no idea.

They said that they were going to give us an update. And then 2027. Yeah.

I didn't say when.

Is there any, with the school going in there and the stop there, I know there was like the traffic study that was done. Is there anything where they, where we feel like this needs to happen before the school opens? Or was it, did it not matter, impact that traffic study?

You know? That's what we thought about. We talked to them about the traffic study for the traffic there. We didn't know this was being implemented. And that's how we were told that we were one of the 10 times I would get this because of the accidents that we did. So I don't know if that's going to push it. We still only know the fabrics now.

Yeah.

So, you know, if I don't push it, you know, this is, I don't know when we had the first rain last year, right? Yeah. For the draughts. We could try. Yeah, I don't know if I can try to get a nice, uh,

I don't follow up with it.

They didn't have any interest for me on the traffic.

I'm assuming like Matt said, they're not going to do it in the winter. Yeah. But it's always stopped. So I don't know. It's not like they're going to do anything. They're just going to be digging places for signs and just redoing that blinking light, I guess, in the middle of it. I don't know what the difference is, honestly. didn't know they found artifacts in that intersection so they have to annotate all the signs but that might take a little bit longer i don't know okay yeah archaeological yeah yeah so i'm gonna see that yeah i think i did i think actually

I'm not sure what that is. That's what this is.

Alright, so throughout the duration of the project, the discretion of the department, I assume the department is the NHGOT?

Yeah.

Alright, uniformed officers and flaggers will be used. Chief, is that your uniformed officers?

Yeah, and if they were just asking if we need it, that's up to them. You know, they can use their flaggers, they can use their flaggers many times, so they have discretion. If they, you know, might have limitations, yeah, I want us to light it up because they won't pay attention there, but, you know, They want a couple of offices there. Anytime you shut down that intersection, it's a disaster. So, okay. Again, the biggest part would be changing the line. The rest of it's down the side of the road. Pretty much, you know, put the signs in the road. From what I've seen in the two, I saw them There's one in Amsterdam, like Chester, that they just did. They just put some other sign and say, you know, different crowd rather than head.

Well, you know, I want to be familiar.

Yeah, so they did one single lane. Yeah, probably exciting.

I guess the only question I don't have, maybe, is what's the difference if they can put a flash on some other sign? For 19 years, I've sat out there.

That's where I get all these, you know, my newbies from people's ball and stuff. Sometimes they're like, because they just don't know what's going on. Yeah, it just, they come up, they come up through Seabrook and it's always going to run through Seabrook. And again, I have to see, you know, that serves a lot.

You know, maybe we can ask them if they can do the last one. You're talking about the stuff, son. Okay. So don't be too long. Yeah, that's something we can just ask. Oh, sure. Okay. Yeah, for sure.

All right. Anything you put in an email, it's going to go off to their last. So she will make sure that everything is informed.

So in terms of this document, so we're just looking to approve that it's going to happen?

We want to approve, sign and agree to the agreement with the Always Stop Safe Project. this number and authorize somebody to sign on behalf of the town.

Who is the best person to sign on behalf of the town?

Or sometimes I sign too. So the chair, if you're going to be doing that, yeah, I would have a chair. All right.

And then we'll send this one way to the director of product development who will send it back to us.

Yes. Perfect.

Okay. So, I mean, my last question is, how much time do we, hence up, do we get before this conference? I think you said two weeks from now. Did I? Yeah, you said two weeks. Exactly.

And then what, let's say, like a month after, or something like that, it's like,

doesn't have that i think they put you know new traffic back in and you got to get on the side saying new traffic back is where i saw them and after a couple months they pulled the signs you know they're big signs okay okay well um i will certainly make the motion then to sign off on the municipal work to zone agreement for down to the intersection of 115 107

which is considered state project 448. What's the municipal work zone agreement for statewide all the way stop control state product number 44861 federal project XA-A005 parenthesis 599.

I second that motion. They love me to close my position.

Sorry I didn't close it off.

Next time. Take it down to the answer. Solar extension? Yes. This amount. So just being approval for that. Each time the property sells, the new owner has to apply for it. Got it.

That's right. I remember this.

All right, well, I'll make a motion to approve the solar exemption for map 12, lot 45B-2. I second the motion. Aye.

we discussed the fire so summer camp refund request is it me is it my family and i have like one of my things changed camps basically yeah that's not me yeah my weekend is all over okay i mentioned we're probably fine okay yeah yeah All right. All right.

All right, it seems here that, sorry, I'm just reading this really quickly. Okay, there seems to be a valid reason for making a motion to approve the refund request for a degrading amount of $205, but a very valid reason for requesting that one of the weeks that was already paid for be refunded. I second that motion.

Um, what's the rain goes through the fire and we can see how that was there.

This is full of anger.

Yes. All right. Check is due on check. So, you're getting really close.

It was.

So it's $150.50. $150,000. $150,000. Thank you. Yes. $150,000. Thank you. Start with that one. Are we motioning this? I will make a motion for the... All right, I love you.

Who's getting immersed?

We're going to get there.

You're going to get it. All right.

All right. I'll make a motion to request the distribution from the, here we go.

the reimbursement for the fire emergency capital reserve fund for $150,000 for the fire tanker as approved by the voters. I second that motion. Okay, I'll do better this time. Okay, Chief.

Yeah, another one. All right. So I'll make it. I'll take a motion to sign it. I don't think it's on here. This is our portion for the grant that we got from the SMBAs that we owe to Tom Hampton.

Okay. to the grant on our behalf. So they're handling all the money and all the reporting and all that and stuff.

We're just, we're along for the ride. Okay, that seems fair to me.

And just for this, I would remind folks how much this saved us and what we're getting like in grant.

Oh, exactly. It was like, for us to buy like the 21 air packs and the bottles, the 40 bottles that would have been somewhere in the range of

um 250 thousand nine thousand six hundred and fifty eight dollars yeah there you go that's a good chunk of money into your thank you for running along from that right yeah uh so yeah the overall total work was seven hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars we were twenty eight percent of that thing our local portion is nineteen thousand or two essentially ten percent All right, I will make a motion to request for reimbursement from the Fire Emergency Endowment Reserve for the reimbursement of the SCBA through the Town of Hampton, which granted three communities a base against the McKensington for the total of $19,065.88 for the SCBA. I second that motion.

Chief, just to understand again, those require anything, right?

Right. That's what we've been going to burn and build and breathe. That makes sense. Fire and get cancer. Yeah, and they have an expiration date to them. Yeah, they're only good for 10 years, and then we need to cycle them out. Yes. They get inspected annually every year in service, but every five years, the bottles need to get rehydro, so they have to be pressure tested and all that and make sure they're still good. And they just need to be done and stored. That's great.

We have a couple of special alcohol permits to approve.

This one is on the ranch. Yeah, that's a great question. Okay. Yep. All right.

And that was where they saw that the chief flag had because we haven't ever done that before. But in the process of doing this part of it, the fire chief and the building inspector were making sure that there was attention to that as well, so they had principle for that as well.

Okay. Was there a thought, and I could be mistaken, there was a bunch of different pyramids we've been discussing, of instituting a normal fee for alcohol? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. If you wanted to add that to the fee scale for the permits that we're doing for genomes, you can do that. If you wanted to come up with an amount that you think is appropriate for these.

I probably would move us to do some research on whether those channels are doing to be similar.

Okay.

So just on that note, so it was actually, I think, during the Seat workstation testing that, you know, because these keep coming up. And so the fee, but the other thing was like, chiefly, is there one that we in the past, if you can recall, do you see any of these or do you think it warrants having an extra officer arm? Because, hey, there's going to be 50 people. And I'm thinking years past, like, hey, there's going to be a lot of people.

We have probably once a hundred people. Okay. So usually when they have a lot of people who are required, we stay there. And again, to kind of judge on circumstances, like, you know, weddings can get out of hand sometimes, but, you know, let's just say, you know, teachers, they can be, I mean, usually they have a party over there at the park or whatever. So we kind of figure out, you know, the circumstance and what's going on. And a lot of times, I've had to put up all my clinics and receptions and all the music. And when it comes to music, it becomes the issue. And then, you know, towards the end of the night, it's more or less the issue. I can't say we've had any major issues with it. We've had a couple of things with some interviews, but...

past five years and say they're bending in terms. There's not been any correlation to arrest or issues with DUIs or anything similar to that with ?

Not that we've had details there. Again, we can't recall any issues that don't happen . Why not? It happens most of the time. I don't have .

Okay, do we know where your liability lies if the town were to sign off on the alcohol permit example at the pavilion at Sawyer Park? If someone were to have left that party where there was a permit allowed and they got to get something happened, would there be any potential liability on the town for signing off. Like, I know, like, for example, they'll say, hey, if you get a DUI or something, was your last time in a licensed establishment? You know, they'll want to know. Because then, you know, we live in a student-friendly society. So I just could get concerned about, like, if, God forbid, somebody left and something happened, could there be any potential liability on the town?

I think going through lawsuits as we have, there's liabilities for everything to do. So there's always that potential.

They do have to supply insurances. Like if they rent a branch, they have to supply an insurance. And if they rent a park, they have to supply an insurance too. So they're already covered with the event. They have full insurance.

And do we know what those parameters are to the insurance and what's necessary?

I believe you have to have insurance. I remember doing this with my brother-in-law. The company supplying the alcohol, people have to get insurance. I'm not sure.

Yeah.

And some of those are very, very hard to serve.

So that's again, it falls into the other way to the police officer there is the police officer supposed to watch where everybody's being served to, you know, some of those things. No matter what you do, it's a liability. Maybe we should look at insurance and put a disclosure on it. Maybe we should have some kind of disclosure on the bottom of it.

What's at the bottom of the permit?

I think they have to apply to get the... By signing this form, the applicant acknowledges that he or she understands and will comply with all applicable liquor regulations set forth by the New Hampshire Liquor Commission and it's not an offence intended. Essentially, they just in the inside from the top of the back to the top of Kensington and the select board acting as local licensing authority shall not be lying to licensee or to others in injury or damage shall result from the exercise of this special office. So we should probably look at this.

Yes, it is. So, you had those, it doesn't really work as far as I think it does cost to be on top of a piece of paper.

Yeah, I just think here's where my brain is going with this. All this also 1 was the 1 that jumped out at 150 people that made me think. Just the potential that, you know, whether it's a fee or whatever it is. Who we look into, you know, if you're going to have served, there's no bringing your own. It has to be done through an approved license. And I'm just, I don't know how they have to do here. We can't. But I'm thinking, like, the potential to, hey, it has to be served by a licensed software. It's a bartender. And now all of a sudden, now, maybe there's more assumption to liability because. you now want a catered event that was a licensed liquor distributor, et cetera. I just, I'm wondering if there's something to look into there a little bit. Is there some potential there?

I know we all saw the reason why I signed off on that one is because they needed to get it to the state before they could actually pull a permit. So they have to pull another kind of a permit to the state. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe a revenue stream for the town in the area?

Yeah.

It's good.

No, it's okay.

In association with this one, you and the chief are assigned it?

Yeah. Okay.

So just acknowledging that it is.

Yeah. I wanted to bring it up.

Appreciate that. All right. Chief, you're not assigned this one. Are you, this is at the Grange on June 20th with 30 to 50 people, age ranging 60 to 80 people. Uh, 88, sorry, excuse me, um.

Are you generally accepted? It's far over. It isn't, you know. But you know, you're putting a lot of people there at the range where in the park. You know that that's that's my concerns is.

It's um, this is the 20th. It could be what 12 days from now.

Well, the problem is, I don't know if I can come down the fence or anything like that. You know, we've had issues with the blogging department. So again, I didn't sign it because I wanted to discuss it to make sure we have a discussion. I think the property, using the property has an understanding of the partner. And I didn't know what a partner was because, again, you know, in school, we have to get permission from the school to be a school partner. So I don't know if we've done that yet.

Right. We could put comments on the back side here.

Yeah, I usually put comments on the next page.

Oh, this is the actual range.

Yeah, this is the range.

They're not going to have liability insurance coverage if they're going to have alcohol. So they have to make sure that there is that to be provided.

It's going to be tears, so that's a decent amount of a couple of cars at least while we're at the back of the crime department stop.

Yeah, it's 30 to 50 people.

Yeah, is that right at this church right here? Yeah, the Grinch.

No, it's the same one. So if we're calling that funeral, the anti-tribal racial church, we can always have that church right there. I mean, could you, could we put, like you said, a note that says that there's limited parking and people have to shuttle from there to park or something like that and leave cars down at the church? It's not a one-one-one. It's not. Are you there? I'm getting the time to stop.

3 to 5. 3 to 7 o'clock. I always lie down.

I imagine we'd almost rather have cars on the side of the road than a bunch of people walking up and down.

If you decide you don't want them parking up on the fence, that's when it happens. They park on the fence.

We have a lot of permit that's been needed in the region by the Army and the rest of us. We've always had a lot of preference about finding a parking spot for us.

I have a bottom sign with the other, you know, some, we just get clarification, but the understanding of the bar.

Right. Right. Restrictions, conditions, remarks are right there.

What's the wording you would like to use to try and prohibit illegal parking along the road? Reach out to the police chief.

All right.

I would say I would reach out to the school first and see if they could use me.

I mean, with the days I'm online. The Saturday.

The Saturday. So school's closed. So I don't see really an issue with using the school. I want to say a permission. That would make it very simple. You know, crossing the road from the school.

And school's going to be out by then anyway, too. So, I mean, it's going to be quiet. I mean, if they can reach out to the school and the department.

I mean, you're talking about probably late please reach out to the Kensington Elementary to use their permit amount.

Yeah, that's correct.

All right, well, Chief, I realize you're good, okay? Awesome. And while you're at it, I will make a motion to agree to sign the alcohol permits on June 20th until 5 p.m. utilized in the Grange as described within the alcohol permit request. I second that motion.

Okay, Rich.

and i'll just i'll take it as a takeaway to do some research on what other towns are doing which is um the only thing that we got going though is that we're getting a refund out of the planning for last year

Um, bring out $7 and then another $33. So credit or nothing.

Right to the elections.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, we anticipated violence for me.

Um, we didn't do anything with it.

So yeah, we actually sent them in. So I don't have to go to the hearing. Yeah, I agree.

Okay. Well, I will make a motion to accept on behalf of the town of Kensington workers' compensation for the amount of $3,087. Second that motion? I'll take it. Okay. Excuse me. In addition to that motion, I'd like to continue with another motion to accept on behalf of the town of Kensington unemployment compensation and return of $34. I second that motion.

And then we have some excitement.

I have a few minutes. We got accepted for the grant. So, Sarah, we have a town clerk's office that's going to be able to do and do the books downstairs. So, it's about a $10,000 grant. And we have a home buyer who's going to do the work for us. So, we'll be working on that. We have to have an inventory. So, we got past the first one, the actual application.

So it's kind of exciting. That's great. Yeah. I do have a question. Yeah. So having dealt in academic world before and knowing that we are on a default budget and many other towns are as well, there's no such thing as free before the grant money is about as close as you can get to it. Have we ever, has the town ever discussed or thought of either a part-time or full-time role that is equal at the Kent Grant writer. Generally speaking, the role typically pays for itself and some and allows other department heads to do the roles in which they're hired to do. Instead, they're going to do extracurricular activities to try and hunt things down. I've chatted with a few department heads. We all seem to be generally in favor. Obviously, it comes with a fee. It's not free. This is an employee of the town in some capacity, but I would highly recommend we think about it. There's more grants out there than we'll ever have time to find to do research on, ever, both federal, state, and local, but less so. But it would be really interesting to understand the appetite. When I think of the most recent, I had someone in procurement whose job it was to argue with the vendors to reduce the costs. At one salary, you eliminated $3 million worth of costs, which was more than paying for their salary. And this is just one example. There's millions of examples out there. But I think it would move us to look into that. We just saw $195,000, $199,000 just off of us, right? There's others out there. There's just more and more happening at a time when our budget will continually be squeezed.

It's a good idea. We can look into what other towns have for grant writers and maybe we could... Yeah, exactly. It doesn't necessarily have to be some sort of re-hire full-time.

In fact, I think that would probably not be exciting to a lot of people, but can we be partnering with clowns? Can we all? The grant, I think the great example was the SCPA, right? That was three times coming together.

One time to believe, the other two jumped on. Just trying to think about it.

While we're on that topic, so one other thing that I want you to just discuss is for the town to look into Omnia. So Omnia is a government-based GPO. So it's what I do for a living, actually, but I'm not in no way affiliated with this company, so there's no conflict of interest. So they specifically work with towns Essentially, the lower costs through, and sometimes they'll ask you to change vendors, but it's everything from telecom and stuff that we've had issues with as well. And in many cases, you work with the same vendor or supplier that you work with, but they negotiate contracts. It's free, so there's no cost or dues. The vendors and suppliers that participate, they administer the fees to Jet Army. reach out to a few folks the reason it came up was because of otis and the elevator and so otis is actually on agreement with omnium so that would be something where before we potentially the town pays um like a maintenance type of a schedule work fee they could become a member of AMIA, which could then say, hey, 10% less or 12%. There's always a discount over. So something that, again, wouldn't cost the town anything, but would potentially bring some good savings. It could apply to equipment that different departments use. There's a lot of different variables. So I've already tried to request to see if there's somebody who's served. There's a sales rep that is going to be somebody who knows the different agreements that are potentially applicable to the town. But I've tried to see if I can at least start finding a contact and it's something for us to potentially look into behind the scenes as well.

I think it could play into, especially with budgetary constraints.

I think it's something the problem with helping your partner last year. Did you really? Yeah, we found millions when we searched it. It's paid in July of the 25th. public procurement simplified.

I'm trying to get more information myself. It could be something where we potentially have one of their representatives come to a meeting or schedule a meeting to learn more about some of the benefits we could tap into there. But it's kind of like thinking about Costco or BJ's or Sam's Club that doesn't have a membership fee.

Okay. All right.

I'm just looking at the budget. I'd just like to look at the overall expenditures. I think all the line items are just here or there. Chief Kane, you're at 37% on budget. We're such a pathway through the years. I think it's a little higher.

Usually, I'm a week or two off on capital. So I think my numbers are 41. I'm at 41%. You're at 41 now, okay.

Hey, it's a default budget. That's very windable. Chief, you're at 41.5%. Let's say that's right on. I would say where you want to be. Anything that is above or below what you're thinking for the rest of the year? I'm feeling pretty good. Okay. Hopefully we'll see a wind of rains. We'll see a wind of rains, which brings me to roads.

right i think you know being three thousand dollars we have to sell from blizzard this winter yeah yeah it was an exceptional winter and i did it so that's why i'm thinking that i'm gonna hold off real estate and going this year um and potential tree removal services just so i have that wiggle room coming into you know saving out of safety if you have another snowy summer you know i'm already tapped out yeah you know And skipping one season roadside mowing, the brush isn't going to creep in, you know, one year. Yeah.

You know, so that's... Is that an arm on the tractor stage?

Exactly.

You know, just mows the ditch lines and, you know, small...

If I said skip it for multiple years, you'd probably have an issue, you know, as far as brush creeping in and stuff. I think we can forego eight seasons. And like I said, true mobile service, obviously, if there's an emergency, we'll have to roll up. Yep. Yep. Makes sense. What's what sprinkles and leases. So the town, so the town doesn't own any. Equipment so. We merely own the town and it's all that. So basically we rent a loader. To load the trucks with the same.

And then you just said you did, but 20 times 200.

Yeah, it's 120 times. I'm still waiting. I'm still waiting on the bill. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's been on such and on the, um, in the color replacement on some field that'll come out of that line. I don't do. Okay, you don't much about that. That is probably.

I'd say 6. Okay. Salt and sand, right? Do you pay that on a monthly basis? I know they sell more than salt.

Yes, it's more of a quantity. We see folks every fall. Last year, I believe it was like $70 change per ton. And then I reserved 320 tons for the season. And basically...

the trailer dumps the 18-wheel dumps come at 30 tons per trip so they just order it as needed so thank you yep looks like it's solid waste for 40 which is less than i would assume would be around 50 right so we're getting there but that's going to be false that was the casella line that would be imaginary just last year I haven't read a single complaint in about a month, so that's nice.

We're coming around.

While we're talking about this, if you don't mind, this is the equipment and information that Tom was talking about for owners. So I just got sent this. $12,500 bill to replace the hydraulic oil in the elevator, which needs to be done every 10 years, and this happens to be the 10th year that we've had it. I was aware that this was a maintenance that needed to be done. So I didn't put it in the 25th budget anyways, but I'm going to reach out to Otis and Tanya.

What's the risk if we delayed it?

Right.

Right.

Awesome. Tommy said he would cut some off. He wouldn't be able to answer that.

Yeah. I've been waiting to get her back to listen to the idea. So that would fall back on them as well. I'm even wondering too, they may be aware of The barrier will just say, you know, hey, that's the best.

So there's a couple. Well, I got to say, the public goes right against the joint talks and then they get a conversation.

Yeah. We got the elevator. It's one of the things that we have to look at.

Yeah. All right. We'll work on it. Yeah. It's coming. Yeah. The check engine light hasn't come on yet. No. We will change time this year. That's when you're stuck in it.

The thing is that elevator doesn't work. You're not seeing a hotel. No.

So it's not working like constantly up and down. I'm just curious. So like, The oil break down, what is this just a selling point? Is there a state regulation?

Yeah, and that's what I'm trying to find out.

I'm not saying you do an hour on that, but like, but it's realistic if that goes up 20 times a day. No, no. Right? Like, again, you're not talking to a hotel or somewhere that's worn out. Yeah. It's like, the hours on that are probably really good. Yeah.

You're not having to send this in some sort of repetitive schedule that they have.

They're looking better. It's nice to be involved. It can be a way off from that. It just seems a little, you know.

Well, we put it in and said to make sure that somebody uses it at least once a week. So, we're good with that. We know that.

Yeah.

Well, I used to use it, too, before. Just because we needed to make sure.

Well, I should have some more follow-ups.

Does that increase the price to fix it later?

I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm saying like that. It's like, you're supposed to get your rental change to your car every so often, but if you drive the time, you're going to get a change soon if you don't drive as much. So I think, obviously, it's something we should definitely work a little bit into, but I don't know that.

I mean, 10 years plus or minus, because generally, so anything that hasn't been maintenance has a window. And it usually has a six months before, six months after sort of thing, based on the thing that I would think about in the field. i would imagine that if we don't do this exactly this year and put in a budget for next year we will be no better or worse off uh by two cents i don't think my elevator's here so they're not that well no at all i mean it's like inspiration made out of the action the next connection isn't that nice to remove it that's right

Moving from the French friends, they have to be a little bit from the.

They're replacing him, but they don't.

It's not going up. It's not going up. It's not going up.

It's not going up.

It's not going up.

The reason why I'm in myself is because I know many people that have a wasteful of heaters that will gladly take it for nothing. So that's I don't know what that is.

So I mean we can save 4700.

We're going to the elevator to the elevator. How big is that?

It could be the size.

So, like you said, put it in a $55 tank. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would certainly push towards taking in the cost for the moment. It's not a real budget.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I realize it's supposed to be 30 days, but I'm going to guess that price is going to change in the next 30 days. If it is, I'd be sure.

Brandon wants a sale, all right? That's a suggestion. I promise you, we should all brand him a 31-way sale.

I'll talk to Brandon once we get the price. Yeah, I know of another one here. I was at a company that just started. He had a company, kind of semi-retired, and it was opening up a smaller business in Seville. Yeah, of course.

Doesn't hurt. Yeah, I'm both. Do you have to have Otis?

Do you have Otis?

Otis probably has the service, really.

Yeah, yeah. Otis is one of the two biggest models. I haven't even found Otis. Otis and Stan.

Yeah, I just didn't know the difference. Other people work on Otis equipment and they still give you a warranty, etc. So they're going to be doing it. Yeah. Yeah, Otis is absolutely...

anything else then um you mentioned the air conditioner you can hear this it seems to be working tonight with them yes okay we had it here for a thousand dollars okay we had to um refrigerate so refrigerate yeah it's just like a car I kind of chugged it it was hot air Well, they weren't working. That one wasn't working at all. This one was still working somewhat, but they both had to be at least, I think they were more than half empty. I don't know. Honestly, I don't remember the last time that they were filled. They've been there 10 years. Did they get serviced regularly? Yes.

They shouldn't imagine.

Yeah, yeah, this is a grossly.

That's why she was. That's why he was kind of nervous. So we did say that for another $500 he could put a test on it to see if it was leaking and I did not. Well, let's find out if it's not working. If it's leaking, then we have another issue with sensitive.

It's the next three more time. Well, he did. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that. So we just have the minutes and then Bill and that's it. OK. And then we'll have to join us in a meeting at five billion three.

we're looking at uh minutes from may 6th and may 18th yeah two questions on the six okay Yes, at least. OK, yeah.

We are not.

We're on snow and I don't. I didn't go back with the sun.

I didn't have time to, but.

So we stay ready once a second.

It was last Friday. So whenever you're trying to skip on Saturday, don't change anything.

I also actually want to also.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I was given these. I had two just small edits on the six.

So if you don't have it, I think we could do a motion to approve both.

with edits for those two minor minutes.

OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I do the motion to approve the minutes for May 6th with edits and May 18th.

I'm the second. Yeah.

Did it make any sense to sound?

Almost. Well, one hour.

One hour.

Thank you. Perfect.

got people yet for the phones folks over here so big thanks no okay no um i didn't need somebody else um to just get a quick you know yeah oh yeah Somebody asked if you were doing the 250th celebration for the. For the USA. Oh, is that here? Yeah.

Then I didn't just.

Sorry, it's like, oh my God.

Perfect. Are you supposed to go down there?

there was also a community conversation so um susan barr had said something but oh right that was one of that saturday at the church yes and it was more excellent It wasn't, it wasn't kind of what we thought, but like what I just said, it was just the open forum.

Yeah, they got a grant from the Humanities Council. Yeah. So it's an initiative to kind of bring, it's more about bringing the community together and helping to get stronger community than it is any particular topic.

I guess I'll be real quick.

I don't know if that's what happened to you.

Yeah, it didn't go on. I'm sorry. When we go over budget,

certain areas, it's just the overall total event that matters. Right. If we go over the overall total. We don't. We just don't. We don't. We just don't. Even as an outside balance carriers from here before.

You would have to get an emergency expenditure. So like if we have to do this elevator, there is a mechanism where you can reach out to the commuter center and ask for emergency expenditure. to fix the elevator. This is something that has to definitely be taken care of. So I didn't do that today. I was going to ask. I didn't do that. That's everything. So that's the actual payroll we're handing out to people. This is how it's usually done, which is the hours. That's at the totals. Does anyone know what I'm hearing today? Yeah. Oh, okay.

All right. Yeah, it's easy to see who folks are and go ahead. In fact, I answered that caller. Is there a crossword? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And thank you for your comments today.

That was very educational.

I don't know if you can see that. It was essentially the same thing. Oh, yeah. Perfect. So I have to make it back.