City Council - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, September 16, 2026

The Kenai City Council approved the library regulations update, authorized supplemental funding for the senior center roof canopy replacement, and scheduled future special hearings.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Kenai, AK
Meeting Date
September 16, 2026

Transcript

297 sections

2:28Speaker 6

I'd like to call the September 16th, 2026 City Council meeting to order. If you're able, please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.

2:37 – 2:49Speaker 5

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

2:53Speaker 6

Clerk, please call the roll.

2:56Speaker 8

Council Member Grimmie.

2:59Speaker 8

Vice Mayor Askin? Here. Council Member Petty? Here. Council Member Kacena?

3:07Speaker 8

Council Member Sonert? Here. Mayor Nackstead?

3:12Speaker 8

Council Member Daniel?

3:15Speaker 8

You have a quorum.

3:16 – 4:09Speaker 6

Thank you. Council, before we get to the agenda and consent agenda approval, I'd like to bring to your attention the lay down materials. We have three. Add item H7, discussion scheduling a board of adjustment appeal hearing brought to us by the clerk. Add item H8. Action approval, scheduling a special meeting of the city council brought to us by administration. And then at item P1, an informational item, Alaska Commercial Fisheries Conservation Alliance, motion to intervene and protest of the Alaska Commercial Fisheries Conservation Alliance, Deep Green Cook Inlet SPV LLC, docket number P-154233. Submission ID 1791000 brought to us by the Clerk. Pleasure of Council, Vice Mayor Askin.

4:10Speaker 17

I move that we approve the agenda as amended with lay down materials and ask for unanimous consent.

4:18Speaker 7

I'll second that.

4:20Speaker 6

Are there any additional revisions to the agenda and consent agenda from Council? Seeing none, would the Clerk please read the consent agenda items into the record?

4:30 – 5:29Speaker 8

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. Approval of the regular meeting minutes of September 2nd, 2026 brought to you by the city clerk. New business action approval bills to be ratified brought to you by the administration. Action approval purchase orders and purchase order amendments requiring approval in accordance with KMC 715-020 brought to you by the administration. Action approval non-objection to the acceptance and appropriation of a donation from Derek Kaufman Fund in the amount of $1,000 in accordance with KMC 725.030, action approval, non-objection to the acceptance and appropriation of the fiscal year 2027 library assistance grant in the amount of $7,000 in accordance with KMC 725.030 brought to you by the administration. An action approval confirmation of mayoral nomination of Joshua Bowling, a student representative to the City Council, and Carolyn Karpik, a student representative to the Council on Aging Commission. Brought to you by the mayor. And that is your consent agenda.

5:29 – 7:13Speaker 6

Thank you very much for that. Are there any public comments on any of the consent agenda items just read by the clerk? Seeing no one, unanimous consent was requested. Are there any objections? Hearing and seeing no objections, the agenda and consent agenda items are approved. So that brings us to Madam Clerk. Do you want to do the oath of office? Welcome back. We have no scheduled administrative reports. We have no scheduled public comments. So that brings us to unscheduled public comments. Are there any members from the public that would like to speak on any item not appearing on the agenda? Come forward, sir. State your name and city you live in, and you'll have three minutes.

7:30 – 10:35Speaker 16

Yes, my name is Russell Clark. I reside at 117 Deepwood Court, Kenai. I am a Cook Inlet commercial fishing permit holder and president of the Alaska Commercial Fisheries Conservation Alliance, a nonprofit representing Cook Inlet and Alaska commercial fishermen. I'm here about the Deep Green Cook Inlet project and a fundamental engineering failure that its FERC application does not address. Deep Green Cook Inlet SPV LLC has applied for a preliminary permit to install 330 to 350 marine turbines and 66 underwater data center pods across 1,650 acres of Cook Inlet seabed west of Nikoski with the subsea power cable landing in the Nikoski Industrial Corridor within this borough. The data center pods are cooled entirely by passive seawater circulation requiring approximately 380,000 gallons per minute of continuous flow. The application contains no thermal plume model and no assessment of what happens when that flow stops. And it does stop. Cook Inlet has mixed semi-diural tides with up to four zero velocity slack tide periods every day. During slack tide, water circulation stops. The passive cooling collapses. 100 megawatts of continuous computing heat accumulates in the project area with nowhere to go. The application provides no fluid dynamics modeling of this condition. The turbines also start generating electricity during the slack tide. Maximum heat accumulation, zero power for backup cooling. The application proposes no solution. The effect on salmon is unmodeled and direct. The East Forland Corridor is a primary migration pathway for Cook Inlet salmon, Chinook, and Coho salmon. A temperature increase of even 1 to 2 degrees Celsius in a migration corridor causes avoidance behavior and migration failure. Superheated thermal pockets accumulating during slack tide across a 1,650-acre migration corridor or a serious threat that the application does not model, analyze, or mitigate. On September 14, ACFCA filed a motion to intervene with FERC in docket number P-15423-00. Submission ID 179100. and 1791227 demanding thermal plume modeling, fluid dynamics analysis for slack tide conditions, and a full salmon migration impact assessment before this perimeter advances. I am asking this assembly to direct borough staff to file a FERC comment in docket number P15423-000 before November 2, 2026.

10:40Speaker 6

Thank you for that. Would you be willing to stand for any questions Council may have? Yes. Vice Mayor Askin.

10:51 – 11:08Speaker 17

Thank you for coming, Mr. Clark. I haven't gotten to read what you passed out. We just got it before the meeting, but is there any address regarding the riptides and the large boulders that are like car size that go up and down the inlet?

11:13Speaker 16

Pardon me. At this point, there is not. They have not even made consideration for the boulders that bounce along the bottom of the inlet.

11:24Speaker 17

I can't imagine that after they do some studying that they're going to find this to be very viable, do you think?

11:31Speaker 16

I believe that they will find it very challenging.

11:39Speaker 4

Any further questions?

11:42 – 12:18Speaker 6

I don't see any, but I want to thank you for your lay down, and I did read that this afternoon, and a lot of that information I'd seen before, and that's quite useful down the road, recognizing that it's not a permit to construct right now, it's just a permit to really study and go forward. So it's something that we'll be considering. And if you needed any more time, by the way, there's another five minutes available at the end of the meeting for public comments if you needed, because you were right up to the line there. I'll let you know it's there.

12:19Speaker 16

Thank you. I would like that five minutes, if you don't mind.

12:22Speaker 6

OK. Well, that will be at the end of the meeting. OK. Pretty close. So enjoy the meeting. OK. Thank you for your consideration.

12:42Speaker 17

I'd like to make a motion to give Mr. Clark an additional seven minutes of unscheduled public comment and ask for unanimous consent. I'll second that.

12:55Speaker 6

Is there any objection to unanimous consent? Seeing none, Mr. Clark, looks like you're going to get seven more minutes right now.

13:32 – 20:38Speaker 16

Thank you. I want to focus this time specifically on what is not in the deep green application and what that absence means for Cook Inlet. Upper Cook Inlet is one of the most hydrodynamically complex tidal environments on the Pacific Coast. Tidal ranges here regularly exceed 28 feet. Current velocities in the East Forland Corridor reach seven to eight knots at peak flow. These extremes are precisely what attracted Deep Green to this location. But these same extremes create a condition that Deep Green's application fails entirely to address. Cook Inlet's mixed semi-diurnal tides produce up to four zero velocity slack tide periods every day. During each slack, current velocity drops to zero. The facility's passive seawater cooling system requires 380,000 gallons per minute of continuous water movement to prevent thermal accumulation. When tidal flow stops, cooling stops. The 100 megawatt computing load continues generating heat. That heat accumulates in the 1,650 acre project area with no dispersion mechanism. The application contains no computational fluid dynamics model for this condition, not for a single slack tide, not for spring tide cycles, not for the compounded neat tide periods when slack intervals extend and flow recovery slows. FERC has issued a deficiency notice on this application for failing to provide basic structural data. The thermal modeling failure is far more serious. No preliminary permit should advance without a complete thermal plume model under all tidal conditions, including the worst-case scenario of an apetide slack period in summer when Cook Inlet water temperatures are at seasonal peaks. The consequential impacts on marine life are not speculative. They are predictable from established biological thresholds. Sockeye salmon, whose late run through the Kenai River system is one of the largest in the world. Transit the East Corridor during July and August. Sockeye optimal thermal range is 12 to 14 degrees Celsius. A temperature exceedance of even 1 to 2 degrees in a migration corridor produces measurable avoidance behavior, delays spawning timing, and reduces spawning success. The 1,650-acre thermal accumulation footprint from this facility sits directly across that migration pathway. The application contains no salmon impact assessment of any kind. Cook Inlet's 331 remaining beluga whales, a critically endangered population that has declined 75% since 1979, use the East Fordham Corridor year-round for foraging, calving, and transit. Federal law under the Endangered Species Act mandates Section 7 consultation with NOAA fisheries before any federal action affected a listed species in critical habitat. Deep Green has not initiated that consultation. Issuing a preliminary permit without it is not a technicality. It's a legal prohibition. FERC cannot proceed. Beyond the thermal and biological failures, the application provides nothing on structural impact. 350 turbine foundations and 66 data center pod anchoring systems will be installed across 1,650 acres of Cook Inlet seabed at depths ranging from 45 to 166 feet. An OBENTHIC habitat survey has been conducted The seabed in this area supports dungeness crab habitat, Pacific herring spawning substrate, and juvenile fish rearing zones. Construction sediment disturbance will generate turbidity pumes across these habitats with no impact analysis filed. The structure itself creates a permanent gear conflict zone for every commercial vessel fishing the East Forland Corridor. Here is the core problem with this application. There is no engineering solution that fixes these deficiencies without changing the project entirely. Active cooling pumps require power that the turbines cannot provide during slack tide. Thermal storage buffers large enough to absorb 100 megawatts of heat through a two-hour slack period at a depth would materially expand the project footprint. Variable computing load management eliminates the commercial viability of the data center. Every fix requires a different project. A different project requires a new application with full environmental review. This is not a filing that can be supplemented. It needs to start over. The city of Kenai stands 47 days from a deadline that will define whether this community has a voice in what happens to Cook Inlet. November 2nd, 2026 is the FERC intervention deadline. A comment filed by city staff at FERConline.FERC.gov with the City of Kenai on record as a party to this proceeding for as long as it runs. Let's see. Do I have any more time? Okay. I would like to go over some of the conclusions and recommendations on the handout that I handed out earlier. Let's see. The Deep Green Inlet Subsidy Compute and Infrastructure Hub Project as filed presents 17 categories of significant environmental impact, regulatory noncompliance, and community harm. One, complete thermal plume models under all tidal conditions including slack tide. Two, they need full computational fluid dynamics model in the power cooling double failure state. Three, ESA section 7 consultation for Cook Inlet beluga well initiated with NMFS. Four, anadromous fish impact assessment including salmon migration, turbine strike, and thermal barrier analysis. Five, marine mammal impact assessment and MP

20:42Speaker 6

Thank you, Mr. Clark. That was another seven minutes. Pardon? Your time's up. Okay. Did you have a few seconds more?

20:52Speaker 16

I think I had. There's about six more points.

20:56Speaker 6

I think, you know, we've got to follow the rules. I understand. Are there any further questions of counsel for Mr. Clark?

21:08Speaker 9

I have a question.

21:10Speaker 6

Councilmember? Remy, I think you're.

21:12 – 21:39Speaker 9

So I guess to clarify, I want to make sure that I understand it. In addition to the obvious potential environmental impacts, the reality is there are requirements of this permitting process that have not been completed that are necessary by, it sounds like, federal law and several other standards that have not been sufficiently completed. Did I understand you correctly? That's correct.

21:40 – 22:30Speaker 16

Excuse me. That's correct. As a matter of fact, the entity that applied for these permits, they came into existence one month prior to making application for this project. And what happens is they have no experience at this type of project. He's a real estate developer. And what happens is is by allowing this permit to go forward, he ties up three to four years of potential other investors that cannot, that have the experience and have the possible engineering that possibly could, you know, address some of these issues from proceeding or applying for this.

22:33Speaker 9

Thank you. That was very helpful. Thank you. Thank you.

22:35Speaker 6

Council Member Petty?

22:36 – 22:56Speaker 11

Thank you. Yes, sir. Have you shared this information with the Kenai Peninsula Borough representatives or any of our state legislators or the Kenai Watershed Farm or Soldotna? I mean, we're all neighbors in this here. I'm just curious.

22:57 – 23:17Speaker 16

Yes, ma'am. I spoke at the borough assembly. yesterday evening, and I have visited with Representative Vance on this issue, and I've also spoke with board members of UCEDA concerning this issue. So, yes, I have.

23:18Speaker 11

I want to thank you for bringing this to our attention, sir. Thank you.

23:25Speaker 6

Vice Mayor Askin.

23:26Speaker 17

Thank you. Is this company out of California by chance?

23:31Speaker 16

They're out of Massachusetts.

23:41Speaker 6

Any further questions, Mr. Clark?

23:43Speaker 5

No, I just want to thank you for coming and speaking to us for 13 minutes or 10 minutes, was that? Either way, that's a long time to get up and speak to us, so I appreciate that.

23:53Speaker 16

I thank you all for letting me speak that long.

23:56Speaker 9

especially that it was well informed. I appreciate that.

24:00Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. Thank you, sir. We may be having some technical difficulties.

24:10 – 24:31Speaker 8

online here adam clerk do you need a moment thank you renex said there's the video is frozen but everything i'm getting back is the audio is going out and other than resetting the whole meeting and all of the live streaming i have no idea how to make it work also every as long as the audio is going out the audio is what has the value so i'm okay with it

24:31Speaker 6

The audio is going out from here, but we're not getting any in from anyone?

24:34Speaker 8

No, the audio is working fine, but our video is froze. It's the same picture that's been there for quite a while.

24:41 – 25:00Speaker 6

All right, I understand now. So I'll ask, is there any other members of the public that would like to speak on any item not on the agenda? And it looks like we have Cassandra online with her hand up. Could you state your name and what city you're in?

25:02Speaker 8

Hold on, I'm trying to figure out how to let her talk.

25:16Speaker 6

We're working on it.

25:25Speaker 8

Councilmember Daniel, you're my IT person and my letting them talk option is not there.

25:30Speaker 5

Hi, folks. Can you hear me? Very well. Thank you very much for waiting.

25:51 – 28:36Speaker 15

Sure thing. Yeah, absolutely. So hi, everyone. Cassandra Nicholson. I'm a resident of Kisilov. I just want to say I did join Rusty and other members of the public yesterday evening at the Borough Assembly. Rusty, thank you for being present tonight and being so articulate. You did a wonderful job. So thank you, everyone, for your time. Just kind of echoing some of the sentiments here that Rusty had shared, I'm extremely concerned as a resident of this community, a resident of Alaska, and a parent to a young child in this community, in terms of environmental and socioeconomic impacts imposed by the Deep Green Cook Inlet Project, Project Number 15423, Those concerns are both long-term and short-term should the preliminary permit application for deep green Cook Inlet SVP LLC be approved by FERC. Cook Inlet is home of the Cook Inlet beluga whale, a population that is nearly extinct, with a current estimated population of 331 that was referenced from the Marine Mammal Commission. This fact alone should prohibit the further and mere consideration of building a data center in the waters of our beautiful Cook Inlet. Cook Inlet is also an integral part of the salmon life cycle and habitat. There are four hatcheries hosted within the inlet waters, which supplement wild salmon runs and subsequent livelihood of the locals as well as commercial fishermen. Salmon are also a critical part of subsistence living for indigenous populations who may rely on Cook Inlet's natural resources for both food security and cultural significance. It would be, in short, entirely irresponsible to allow a project of this magnitude to even cross one boundary of red tape. There is not enough data to support the environmental sustainability of such a project, given the limited pilots and projects throughout the world to date. I'm requesting that this Council or any other appropriate governing bodies on the Peninsula submit their public comment and or motion to intervene as soon as possible, but no later than November 2, 2026 at 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. I ask that this Council adamantly articulate support for the denial of the application for Deep Green Cook Inlet SVP LLC to have any amount of access to our Cook Inlet waters and or I'll say testing at the very least, just exploring things as an option or any waters throughout our great state of Alaska. Thank you.

28:38 – 29:14Speaker 6

Thank you, Ms. Nicholson. Is there any questions for Ms. Nicholson? Not seeing any here. Thank you very much for your testimony. Is there anybody else online or in the room that wants to speak to this particular item? I wanted to ask that before we go on to see if there's anybody else that wants to speak, but I thought I might turn it over to our city manager, city manager Eubank. Do you have any plans on what you might be recommending to council on this at this point?

29:16 – 30:08Speaker 19

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. I have had some preliminary conversations with the city attorney. He's currently out of the office. We'll have further conversations next week. I do believe it might be in the city's best interest to, at a minimum, provide comment on the proposed project. And we may take a position, we may recommend taking a position as an intervener. An intervener doesn't necessarily denote whether there is support or lack of support for the project. It simply could provide the city an opportunity later and preserve its position as a party to these proceedings. So we're going to be reviewing that, discussing that, likely have a recommendation before council at the October, first meeting in October, October 7th. And we'll go from there.

30:10 – 31:01Speaker 6

Thank you for that clarification. And we do have until November 2 to submit that. I don't have very bit of time. Are there any other members of the public that would like to speak on any item not appearing on the agenda? Seeing no one. That brings us to public hearings. The first public hearing before us tonight is Ordinance Number 3544-2026, amending Kenai Municipal Code Chapter 1.56, Kenai Municipal Library Department removing the library regulations from the appendices of Kenai Municipal Code and amending the City of Kenai schedule of rates, changes, and fees for housekeeping purposes and to align the library with other city departments brought to us by administration. Pleasure of counsel, Vice Mayor Askin.

31:01Speaker 17

I move we enact ordinance number 3544-2026.

31:05Speaker 9

I second that.

31:09 – 31:25Speaker 6

Is there anybody from the public that would like to speak to ordinance 3544-2026? Anybody online? Seeing no one, bring it back to council. City Manager Eubank, there's a lot to unpack here. So if you want to just kind of give us an overview.

31:27 – 32:43Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. I'll start this, and then when we get into detailed questions, I'll defer to our library director, Ms. Wolff, who's here with us tonight. So as indicated, Ordinance 3544-2026 will amend KMC 1-56 and remove library policies from the appendices of code. This amendment will allow management authority and policy administration of the library to be consistent with other city departments. It provides for more flexibility in the administration of the library and allows for more timely changes when needed. It represents significant work, I will say, by the library director to write and have approved the policies that are included tonight in your packet. The memo provided on pages 15 through 27 of the packet include a sectional analysis of the changes and new policies intended to replace the previous code sections and appendices. And if you have specific questions on those, I would defer to Ms. Wolff.

32:44 – 33:06Speaker 6

And City Manager Eubank, after the description there, there's the, kind of working my way down there, the policies. We're really not voting on the policies. Everything's just being moved into a policy that will be approved by you, the library director and city attorney, correct?

33:07Speaker 19

That is correct, Mr. Mayor.

33:15Speaker 6

Councilmember Grimmie.

33:16 – 35:10Speaker 9

I don't have a question, I guess a comment more. I appreciate that decodifying these gives the library and Director Wolf the same autonomy that other departments currently have here at the city, and I think that gives her opportunity of future directors, of course, to meet the needs of library staff and patrons and the buildings themselves, building itself on a more timely basis. I met with Director Wolf and then with Director Wolf, Attorney Bloom, and City Manager Eubank a month or so ago regarding part of these changes specifically in relation to how the front room at the library is currently allowed to be utilized. And this part of one of these changes will allow more public access to that space, which we had recent public comment about that being an issue. And I think that making this change gives Director Wolf the ability to meet the needs of not only the staff and the patrons, but our residents as well, who want to be able to continue to take advantage of the great spaces that are available in that library. I mean, that front space and the other, the smaller rooms and the smaller conference room are great spaces for folks to utilize in our community. all of that to say, I support this change and I think that it speaks highly of the work that Director Wolf has done in going through all of these policies and considering the needs of everybody, not just library staff and patrons, but residents as well.

35:14 – 35:52Speaker 7

Mr. Daniel. Thank you, Mayor Nack said. I too want to echo support for this. I know this is a lot of work. It was interesting looking at some of the changes in there. The sleeping policy, I thought that was really interesting from before in the code. I was like, huh, all right. This is definitely a good refresh, definitely is needed to help us meet our needs of the community as a whole and the library and the patrons, of course, just like Council Member Grimmie said. I did have a question, though, for City Manager Eubank. Are there any other departments that need to go through this change? I know we've been kind of working through a few of them in the past. Are we pretty much to the point where we're administratively handling a lot of this stuff?

35:52 – 36:21Speaker 19

City Manager Eubank? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council Member Daniel. No, this is the library is the one department that has specific policies regarding in the appendices of code and then has a number of these what we would consider policies in code as well. So it really is kind of an outlier as far as the city department went, how code handled it. And like I said, this will provide us greater flexibility and be more responsive to be able to make changes.

36:25 – 37:02Speaker 6

Any further discussion? I do also appreciate all the work that's gone into this and reading through all the policies, kind of making sure that everything is collected in there and it's been expanded on a little bit. And to the city manager, I guess I would like to ask, you know, the process of when this started and how you did it and perhaps just a little explanation of what you're most excited about in all of this, because there's a lot of changes in what you can do now within a reasonable time limit.

37:04 – 38:41Speaker 14

All right, I'll try. So we started this process about a year ago, actually, just rewriting the policies. This is something that I've been wanting to do for a while. to clean up the code and to make sure that we have the flexibility, as City Manager Eubanks said, to actually make changes in a timely fashion. So it took us about a year. Now these policies, we didn't just write them out of nowhere. I did a lot of reviewing of other libraries' policies. None of these policies are really out of the ordinary, they're pretty standard in library world, so I didn't have to reinvent the wheel, thankfully. In terms of things that I'm really excited about, just being able to make certain changes The sleeping is one of them actually. It's always bothered me that it was in code, that we said no sleeping, it's prohibited, and then having that taken out is a very good change. Also easing up on library card eligibility, us being able to make it easier for patrons to actually get library cards is a really good one. I had a whole list of them and I forgot them all. Let's see what else. Also, I will say that we have a bunch of procedures in place. So the way we handle circulation, for example, but actually having a policy that we can refer back to when we actually make policy changes or procedure changes is also a very good thing. So just being able to be more flexible and being able to respond to community need, I think, is the most important thing to me.

38:44Speaker 6

Thank you very much. Any further council discussion? Seeing none, please call the roll.

38:53Speaker 8

Vice Mayor Askin?

38:55Speaker 8

Council Member Petty? Yes. Council Member Cassana?

39:00Speaker 8

Council Member Sonnard? Yes. Mayor Nackstead?

39:05Speaker 8

Council Member Daniel?

39:07Speaker 8

Council Member Grimmie? Yes. Student Representative Bolling?

39:11Speaker 8

You have seven yes votes. Ordinance number 3544-2026 is enacted.

39:17 – 40:08Speaker 6

Thank you. We are now on item E2, ordinance number 3545-2026, increasing estimated revenues and appropriations in the general and senior center improvement capital projects funds to provide supplemental funding for the senior center canopy roof replacement project brought to us by the administration. And this is being done through KMC 1.15070, which allows an ordinance making, repealing, transferring, or otherwise changing appropriations to be enacted on the same day as introduced. And from what we've read here, that this is a time-sensitive issue. We have a construction project underway, and the season's ending soon. So that is why it's before us like this tonight. So I'm looking for a motion to introduce. The Vice Mayor Raskin.

40:08Speaker 17

I move that we introduce Ordinance Number 3545-2026. I'll second.

40:17Speaker 6

Moved and seconded. Clerk, please call the roll.

40:22Speaker 8

Council Member Petty? Yes. Council Member Cassana?

40:27Speaker 8

Council Member Sonnard? Yes. Mayor Nackstead?

40:32Speaker 8

Council Member Daniel?

40:35Speaker 8

Council Member Grimmie?

40:37Speaker 8

Vice Mayor Eskin? Yes. Student Representative Bolling?

40:41Speaker 8

You have seven yes votes. Ordinance number 3545-2026 is introduced.

40:49Speaker 6

Thank you. Now, a pleasure of counsel regarding a motion to hold a second reading. Is there a second? Vice Mayor Eskin?

40:58Speaker 17

I move that we conduct a second reading of ordinance number 3545-2026.

41:06 – 41:40Speaker 6

I'll second that and request unanimous consent. Annumous consent was requested. Are there any objections? Seeing none, the second reading has been unanimously approved. Ordinance number 3545-2026, increasing estimated revenues and appropriations in the general and senior center improvement capital project funds to provide supplemental funding for the senior center canopy roof replacement project brought to us by administration. So now, pleasure of counseling regarding a motion to enact. Vice Mayor Askin.

41:41Speaker 17

I move we enact ordinance number 3545-2026. I'll second.

41:48Speaker 6

Is there anybody from the public that would like to speak to Ordinance 3545-2026? Seeing no one, bring it back to Council. City Manager Jubank.

42:01 – 43:15Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of Council. Again, I'll kick this one off and we'll defer any detailed questions to Mr. Frey. During the investigative stage of the design for this roof replacement, The joists for the roof were examined in a limited number of locations. Holes were drilled, cameras were used to get up in there. Once the canopy was removed and truly exposed these joists, the joists up in there, there's significant damage well beyond what was originally thought as part of the design. This change order, a change order is needed to replace all of those joists. It's also going to, I believe, replace the metal that has adhered to it because it's likely to be damaged or destroyed during removal since the joists actually have to come out. And as Mayor pointed out, we are requesting this on a double reading like this because of the short construction season. The construction, the canopy is now open, and the contractor would like to get in there and get it finished and buttoned up before winter here. And I would defer any other detailed questions to Mr. Frey.

43:16Speaker 6

Council questions? City Council Member Daniel, go ahead.

43:22Speaker 7

Thank you, Renax. What state are we in now? Is it just covered, tarped? Did they stop construction until it's approved? Where are we at?

43:32 – 43:46Speaker 12

Yeah, it's tarped off right now. They demolished the removal of the sheathing was part of the construction project, so they removed all the sheathing, and it's currently just tarped off at this point. We've just been reviewing submittals and getting ready to authorize the change order to continue to work.

43:51Speaker 6

Approximately with this change order, when would the completion date be?

43:57Speaker 12

I want to say October 30th was the deadline, but that might be off by a few days.

44:07Speaker 6

Any further council questions? Seeing none, clerk, please call the roll.

44:14Speaker 8

Council Member Cassana?

44:17Speaker 8

Council Member Sonnard? Yes. Mayor Nackstead?

44:22Speaker 8

Councilmember Daniel?

44:24Speaker 8

Councilmember Grimmie? Yes. Vice Mayor Askin? Yes. Councilmember Petty? Yes. Student Representative Bolling?

44:31Speaker 8

You have seven yes votes. Ordinance 3545-2026 is enacted.

44:37 – 44:55Speaker 6

Thank you. Next we have item E3, resolution 2026-61, authorizing purchase of two police interceptors using city fleet replacement fund. and the state of Alaska equipment fleet contract brought to us by administration. Pleasure of council. Vice Mayor Askin.

44:55Speaker 17

I move we adopt resolution 2026-61 and request unanimous consent.

45:04 – 45:19Speaker 6

I'll second. Is there anyone from the general public that would like to speak to resolution 2026-61? Seeing no one, we'll bring it back to council discussion. Your manager, you bank. Did you have anything more on this for us?

45:21 – 46:26Speaker 19

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just just I just want to point out. So annually, the city adopts its fleet replacement plan as part of that budget process. These two police cruisers were scheduled for replacement in that plan. The plan estimated replacement cost for these totals $120,812 for the 12 units. As Council can see here, this replacement is going to be about $152,000, so a little over $30,000 difference between what was projected and what actually is. I did have this conversation with the finance director today. After review, they are confident that the plan does have the capacity to sustain these two purchases, but would like to caution that, you know, that plan is reviewed annually and it may require, you know, increased contributions in future years as a result of these escalating prices for vehicles. So, I'm happy to try and answer any other questions.

46:27Speaker 6

Mayor Redekopan. Any questions on the police cruisers? Councilmember Daniel.

46:31 – 46:43Speaker 7

Thank you, Mayor Naksit. A quick question for Police Chief and maybe City Manager Eubank. Are we doing the upfitting ourselves, or do we have to get that sent off somewhere? Is your manager Eubank?

46:44 – 47:36Speaker 19

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Daniel. Our city shop currently is doing the upfitting. it's something i think we we have in the past my experience here at the city we've traditionally done the upfitting ourselves we did for a short period of time source that out i think i know our city shop prefers to do it internally it makes repair future repairs much simpler for them because they know where everything is since they're the ones that install it it is something they work in in their schedule i do think potentially it does take a little bit more time sometimes than if we did it through alaska safety or one of the other vendors in the state that does this type of work but we currently are doing it in-house and i'm comfortable with them continuing to do that as long as they have the capacity

47:39Speaker 7

Thank you for that, and I appreciate that we can do that work in-house, and I think it's another value add for our citizens. Thank you.

47:48Speaker 6

Any further discussion? Council Member Petty.

47:52 – 48:33Speaker 11

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. City Manager, after this replacement, when is the estimated time of the next replacement of vehicles? And I know that we had previously been utilizing, we were thinking to use trucks in our replacement. Is that the case for these replacements so that those trucks, after their designated time for the force, could be utilized in other places in our community? you know, not in our community, but in the city's fleet. When is the estimated time that we'd need other replacements? Is that known? City Manager Eubanks?

48:34 – 49:55Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council Member Petty, I don't remember specifically for these two units. You are correct. We do have a blend of our scheduled replacements. Some of the vehicles the police are using are pickup trucks. Those stay with the department a shorter period of time. I believe seven to eight years is what's projected, and then they rotate to another department like Parks and Rec where they get significantly less use. um mileage put on them so they last our typical replacement is around the 15 year mark i i'm not sure exactly what our replacement is on these specific vehicles because these are going to re remain at the police department for the duration of their existence so they'll be they're the 100 of the time they average i'm thinking around 18 to 20 000 miles a year on a police cruiser So really, mileage is what racks up and determines the life of these vehicles in comparison to those pickup trucks where we leave them there for seven to eight years and then rotate them to a department that puts far less miles on them. So these are just the Ford. They're not pickup trucks. These are just the cruisers. And we'll stay at the police department the entire time. Finance Director, do you know the life expectancy of these cruisers?

49:55 – 50:12Speaker 3

I believe we have these for 15 years, but one of the other things is that we look at, like these would be used like the temporary officers that we have during the summer. So sometimes they're, you know, kind of cycled out, but they're not used as much later in their life.

50:16Speaker 11

And a follow-up. With these replacements, what percentage of our replacement fund will be remaining? Is that known?

50:28 – 50:39Speaker 19

Mr. Mayor, thank you, Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Petty, I don't know that number off the top of my head, but perhaps I can get the finance director to send you that to review the budget.

50:39Speaker 6

Thank you. Councilmember Grimmie?

50:44 – 52:12Speaker 9

I want to point out three things, city manager, that you have mentioned just in the last couple of minutes. We've been talking about this, that I think are important to highlight in regard to our city's fiscal responsibility. The first is that we have and utilize a vehicle replacement fund. we're planning for a rainy day, like a Christmas layaway fund almost, if you will, that we are using existing staff that we already have and are paying for to outfit police vehicles instead of outsourcing. So we do pay for staff. We are not paying actual funds out if we were outsourcing it. And then thirdly, you continue to look for ways to recycle these vehicles in every possible way that you can after Their use for active police work isn't suitable. We're shifting them to TEOs. We're shifting them to public works. We're looking for ways to continue to use these things. 15 years for a public service vehicle? Yeah, I think, I mean, there's a lot of people that don't drive their own vehicle for 15 years and they average a lot fewer miles than police cars do. So I just wanted to take a second to highlight those three things that you mentioned in our conversation here that are indicative of our city's continued fiscal responsibility.

52:16 – 52:44Speaker 6

Any further discussion? Seeing none, unanimous consent was requested. Is there any objection? Seeing none, resolution 2026-61 is adopted. That brings us to item E4, resolution number 2026-62, authorizing a contract award for SCADA design and installation services brought to us by administration. Pleasure of counsel, Vice Mayor Askin.

52:44Speaker 17

I move we adopt resolution 2026-62 and request unanimous consent.

52:50 – 53:03Speaker 6

I'll second. Is there anybody from the public that would like to speak to Resolution 2026-62? Seeing no one. Bring it back to council. Council discussion. Senior Manager Eubank.

53:05 – 55:13Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. So Resolution 2026-62 will award SCADA Design and Installation Services. SCADA stands for Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition System. Thank you, Google. want to point out to council this is pretty this is a non-traditional i think resolution for us in the sense that um the actual award we're asking you approve tonight is only twenty thousand dollars uh the typical minimum threshold for council is thirty five thousand dollars um the reason this one is being presented to you in this way is i think we're using a a bit of a non-traditional procurement methodology for this in that um the uh request for proposals that went out, asked for proposers to propose on working with the city to evaluate our current system and propose a plan for upgrade. um that's all that's being awarded here tonight we do expect beyond that once they have and we have approved the plan for upgrade and negotiated a price for that work to have that back before council by change order which will absolutely push this over the 35 000 limit so i wanted council to be aware the project itself we haven't been able to You know internally get our arms wrapped around we do need assistance with that So this is a little different model than we typically use for our procurement And I just wanted you to be aware like I said of how why we're doing it this way and why you're seeing a resolution for only $20,000 subsequent change orders like will be for several hundred thousand dollars and will show up on the PO list for consideration. But I wanted to give you that heads up tonight before you move for approval of this.

55:16Speaker 6

Council Member Grimmie.

55:18 – 55:38Speaker 9

Can you, in one or two sentences, explain what the project is? I mean, the resolution and the memo say the system, the project, the system. So I think it would be helpful if it had just a CliffsNotes version understanding of what the system and the project are.

55:38Speaker 19

City Manager Eubank. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council Member Grimmie. This is where our Public Works Director is going to shine.

55:46 – 57:09Speaker 12

Thank you. So essentially, this is kind of the brains behind our water system. The SCADA system basically helps run the water plant as far as seeing demand on the water system, knowing to turn the pumps up higher to meet that demand. It helps do our treatment and filtration system over there. It programs when we're switching over to pumps at the reservoir, when we're opening and closing, so when we're filling and draining the reservoir at the airport, all those kind of things that go on with the water system itself. In addition to that, it also helps capture a lot of data about the system so that we can see all these pressure drops in the system and all these things that are being captured instantaneously. We can see trending over the year for how much gallons we're using a day, year, all those types of things. It's also an alarm system so that when we see like a pressure drop in the system, whoever is on call is getting that notification from this system. so that we're being notified. We could see power outages, you know, if the generator fired up, all those types of things. We can see those remotely on computers or phones to be able to capture all that. So it's a lot of the brains behind the entire system. And this would just be for the water system that we're working on this now with potential to roll this out. We have existing systems for wastewater and the lift stations, but we want to start at the water and redo this system and then kind of branch into redoing the other systems as well.

57:11Speaker 9

Thank you. That was very helpful. Thank you.

57:15Speaker 6

Any further discussion? Council Member Daniel.

57:18 – 57:44Speaker 7

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. Two things. One, where are we at now? What is our system like now, I guess, and what are we trying to accomplish just upgrades, modernization, cybersecurity, which I hope is a huge part of this because SCADA and PLCs are not very secure in nature. So I'm just curious where we're at now, where we're trying to go with this, and then I'll ask my next question after that.

57:45 – 59:01Speaker 12

Mr. Frye. Thank you. So a lot of it is modernization and cybersecurity. We do have a lot of existing PLCs throughout our system. A lot of the system at the water plant right now is 10 to 15 years old. A lot of stuff SCADA components start aging out around 10 years. Components that tie in over at the public safety building and the water reservoir are older than that. The main issue we have is that a lot of it has been added on and added on over the years, so we don't have a lot of great Combined information of the entire system just because it's been scabbed together so a lot of times when we have people come to work on Something it's you know well I can fix this but I can't fix this and it's it's it just creates problems trying to so The the goal is to redo the entire system so we're kind of starting fresh with something that any Consultant can come in and work on for us and see all the and we have all the history and knowledge of how it was programmed and how it's all set up and where everything is going so that it can be operated better in the future, if that makes sense. We are anticipating a new software program most likely than the one we're currently using. Okay, thank you.

59:01 – 59:21Speaker 7

That makes a lot of sense and I really appreciate that approach. And the second part to this is, this is just the award for basically the consultation and the design and the help to figure out what we need. Are we, after we go through this process, is it going to be the same company that will do the actual project, the bigger piece of it as well?

59:23 – 1:00:13Speaker 12

Yeah, that's the goal of the project and the way that we're doing this. We felt that we would have spent a lot of money trying to have a consultant design a SCADA system for us. And a lot of times you're going to get a company like this that's involved in doing that design. Once we have them involved in the design aspect of it, it essentially eliminates them from bidding on the construction of the project because they would have an unfair bidding advantage doing the design for it. So we're essentially looking at this as more of a design build project, as you will, that we're getting a design and construction consultant on board with one project. And we do have a consultant that's been working with us on our water and sewer projects that we plan on involving as far as reviewing the construction costs and plans to make sure that construction costs are going to be reasonable compared to what they're seeing on other similar projects.

1:00:20 – 1:00:51Speaker 6

Good questions. Any further questions? Unanimous consent was requested. Are there any objections? Seeing none, Resolution 2026-62 is adopted. That brings us down to we have no unfinished business. We have a discussion item of Councilmember Gremme regarding Council employee review consultant. Councilmember Gremme?

1:00:54 – 1:03:17Speaker 9

We discussed this. in the budget planning stage. And it was ultimately included in our budget. And I'm bringing it up now because evaluation time is in the spring. And as winter hasn't even really started, I know it's hard for us to imagine the spring already. But I think it's going to sneak up on us quicker than we're ready for. And this is a good time, I think, to get this ball rolling. As I've heard from my fellow council members, because this was my first year going through the evaluation process of the three employees supervised by the council, the process has improved in recent years. But I would... I would argue that the process remains cumbersome, unstructured, difficult to navigate at times, and in my opinion, difficult to defend. Having a consultant review our process and give us recommendations on what we're doing right, what we could consider doing differently, I think is going to be better for us in our ability to supervise these three employees, and it's going to be better for the three employees that are supervised by council to continue to meet expectations of council and do their jobs well. Having this process evaluated by a contractor was suggested at the recommendation of our HR director, Mrs. Randall. And I spoke with all three employees previously that are impacted by this, and they were in agreement with going down this road to seek some suggestions or evaluation of what we could consider doing differently moving forward in this evaluation process. So I think for all of those reasons we need to get this ball rolling and start the process of having our evaluation process evaluated by an outside consultant as we budgeted for this budget cycle.

1:03:22Speaker 7

Any further discussion?

1:03:24Speaker 6

Council Member Daniel.

1:03:25 – 1:03:48Speaker 7

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. A couple things. First of all, I agree we should definitely take a look and see how we can improve this process and have another outside entity would be nice. Do we have, and this might be for Ms. Randall, do we have timelines? Do we have a contractor already lined out? Do we need to find somebody still? I guess maybe where we're at.

1:03:53 – 1:04:46Speaker 18

Thank you. I have spoke with a consultant to get a, when I got the quote, she didn't give me the exact timeline, but she did kind of give me a list of how she would go about the evaluation. If you want to know, just real quickly, I printed it out. She'll review the existing tools. She'll interview the council members, as well as those being evaluated on the effectiveness of the tool, the current process to determine what's working, what could be working better. She's going to update the tool and process to incorporate identified changes, including best practices, and review that with the decision makers. and then finalize the tool and the process. So I think it would be a big assistance to the council to work with a consultant.

1:04:47 – 1:05:00Speaker 7

Thank you. And a follow-up for you. Do you feel this would be a sufficient this is sufficient or do we need to go deeper or is it too early to tell what this particular process, I don't know, it's kind of a loaded question, sorry.

1:05:01 – 1:05:22Speaker 18

Thank you. I think that it's kind of early to tell. I think that it's what you ask of the consultant is kind of what result you'll get. Being able to give your input will help to develop the tool. Thank you.

1:05:25 – 1:05:42Speaker 9

I forgot to mention, too, I think that's part of what I would ask us to determine today is how we want to proceed, whether that would be with a small committee or what we want to do moving forward with this.

1:05:45 – 1:06:24Speaker 5

I'll just start by saying I think I really appreciate the efforts that have been made by the prior councils and especially Stephanie, her work on this process. But I agree that this is a really good opportunity to make that better. If you have that chance, why wouldn't you? I would advocate for getting feedback from all stakeholders, city council members, and the three employees. And HR, and yeah, I think for efficiency, maybe a small committee would be best. And as the other person who brought this up, I would be happy to be on it.

1:06:25 – 1:06:57Speaker 6

Very good. Back at the budget cycle, I concurred that any processes we have can be improved, and this could be one of them. And that I'd hope that council committee would take the bull by the horns and flesh a lot of this out. as we move forward and be here today, basically, with some ideas. And while we're here today, and so perhaps the first step to do is to decide who's going to be on the committee. It sounds like Council Member Grimmie would be.

1:06:58Speaker 9

Yes, absolutely.

1:07:00Speaker 6

And Zavala. And do we have a third for the committee? Council Member Petty?

1:07:07Speaker 11

No, I won't be on the committee because I won't be here.

1:07:09Speaker 6

You put your light on. That kind of commits you.

1:07:12Speaker 11

Well, I had my light on some time ago with a question for our HR director.

1:07:19Speaker 6

Sorry, I missed it a long time ago.

1:07:22 – 1:07:36Speaker 11

Duly noted. Ma'am, how was this consultant chosen and what is their field of expertise and what do they bring to the table?

1:07:42 – 1:08:04Speaker 18

Thank you, Council Member Petty. She was recommended to me. She's a consultant with Workplace Solutions Alaska. Her experiences with all things HR and she's been doing this for a while. She was referred to me, so.

1:08:05 – 1:08:25Speaker 11

And where does she come from? I mean, where does she live? Is this in Fairbanks, Alaska, California? I do not know her current location. Could you provide that for us moving forward? I certainly could, yes. Thank you.

1:08:26 – 1:08:44Speaker 6

City Manager Eubank, to kind of follow up, it was a question I wanted you to answer anyway, was regarding the procurement. of an individual or a company with such a small amount what our city procurement requirements are and is that a council consideration?

1:08:46 – 1:09:36Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I believe the thresholds here as far as what is in code just allow us to select the vendor. I think our internal policy requires to get three quotes. I believe I gave this Randall Ms. Cosgrove, right, is the name. I believe she used to be the HR director for the state of Alaska. So she has not only a lot of HR experience, but a lot of public sector HR experience as well. met Ms. Cosgrove and Sitka at a conference and heard her credentials, spoke with her briefly about the project that had come up during the budget process, and then put her in touch with Ms. Randall. So that's what I can tell you about Ms. Cosgrove as well.

1:09:36Speaker 11

I graciously appreciate that added information so that we can move forward and make informed decisions. Thank you.

1:09:44Speaker 6

Council Member Petty, did that pretty well answer your question that you had?

1:09:48Speaker 11

Thank you, Mayor.

1:09:48Speaker 6

It did. I appreciate it. Vice Mayor Askin was next.

1:09:53Speaker 17

I'd like to serve on the subcommittee if that's okay.

1:09:58Speaker 6

Okay. Well, that would make three of you.

1:09:59Speaker 9

Thank you. I just wanted to say I did a quick Google search of workplace solutions. Mila Cosgrove is located in Juneau.

1:10:14 – 1:10:48Speaker 6

Okay. Any further discussion? no direction just so that the committee here perhaps you could keep us updated on your progress and when you think that we might need to have an executive session or whatever is appropriate thank you quick question for the clerk if you just provide us guidance on how we should and could meet without breaking any rules actually there's only three of you so if you need the

1:10:50Speaker 8

conference room, just give me a call and we'll make sure it's booked out for you.

1:10:55Speaker 6

The library conference room is available too.

1:11:00 – 1:11:26Speaker 9

Mayor Mrakas, Good some over Grammy I just wanted to say, I will follow up with Mrs randall and figure out what the next steps are on that end, and then I will make sure to keep the subcommittee apprised and then we will absolutely report back to the Council. Mayor Mrakas, You know, as often as we have something worthwhile to report, thank you, thank you for your consideration in this and getting this movie and I appreciate both you volunteering to assist with this.

1:11:27 – 1:11:40Speaker 6

Yeah, and I think it's probably best, you know, once you guys do come up with, if you have some comments or you want something to be fed back, that it be fed to the clerk's office, if that's okay, Shelly. That way, you know, it's filtered.

1:11:41Speaker 9

We will have lots of questions for you, Madam Clerk. Okay.

1:11:44 – 1:12:22Speaker 6

Okay, very good. So now, no further discussion on that. We'll move on. We have a discussion item, scheduling a board of adjustment hearing. Brought to us by the clerk. Open discussion. It's brought by the clerk, but I think we're probably looking to our city manager here for... Madam Clerk, maybe you're the one that would have kind of an idea when we would... I don't know how voluminous the paperwork is and what kind of time we need. And there's an end date, but go ahead.

1:12:22 – 1:13:55Speaker 8

Thank you. So the appeal, so this time restriction on this, our code requires that when we receive an appeal that the council or the board of adjustment has to have the hearing within 45 days. Under special circumstances, they can take it out to 60 days. This appeal came in too late to make this packet, so the information was In the lay down tonight, the 45 day date is Sunday, October 25th. Code allows us to go to the following business day. So Monday, October 26th is the 45 day period. Generally, in the past, council has scheduled these on the same day as a council meeting, early in the day. That does not have to always be the case. In that time period, Wednesday, October 7, and Wednesday, October 21, are council meeting days. The 60-day date, if there's extending circumstances, is November 9. I would like to let you know that there is a council meeting on Wednesday, November 4. However, during that period is elections. And October 19th is a recognized city holiday. October 20th through November 3rd is absentee voting outside of these chambers, which has not prevented us from having a board of adjustment hearing in here during absentee voting. We just closed the doors. However, November 3rd is election day. And November 5th, 6th, and possibly the 9th, these chambers will be used for canvassing the election. For sure on the 5th and 6th, if there is a large number of ballots to be canvassed, we will be continuing on the 9th in here.

1:13:57Speaker 6

Madam Clerk, when would be the soonest time that we could have that? We know when the end is, how about the soonest and maybe

1:14:03 – 1:14:18Speaker 8

Because of the noticing requirements, we have to mail notices 15 days prior. Trust me, they're ready to go. If you guys choose to send those as soon as possible, the soonest date would be Monday, October 5th, with us mailing the notices out this Friday.

1:14:21Speaker 5

7th works for me, before the meeting.

1:14:29Speaker 9

How early would that need to be?

1:14:32 – 1:14:59Speaker 8

The hearings generally go two to three hours. There's opening statements by the staff, then there is a staff report. We have public testimony that's open for five minutes to speaker, then the appellant gets 30 minutes to present their case, the appellee gets 30 minutes for theirs, and then they get 15 minutes for rebuttal each, and then five minutes. So they generally can be up to four hours, but I've seen most resolve within about three.

1:15:03 – 1:15:43Speaker 9

I'm going to be that guy. That's a lot to do on the same day that we have a council meeting. Is it possible to look for different day after I mean after the 5th or I know you rattled a lot of dates where there's a lot of things going on and I'm sorry I didn't keep track of them all but it just would have to be after the 5th and before the 26th is what I understood you to say so I mean that if we wanted to stick to a Wednesday that would leave the 14th we we don't have to do it on a Wednesday we could do it first thing in the morning

1:15:44Speaker 6

you know, for that matter, during the day too. Or at noon. Or on a weekend.

1:15:51Speaker 9

Yeah, I don't like any of those, I guess.

1:15:53 – 1:16:04Speaker 6

Well, you see, that's the thing, is you could. You know, and it would be nice to be able to do it while staff is here and not have them come in at special times.

1:16:04Speaker 9

Yeah, I mean, if we picked another afternoon or whatever, I don't know.

1:16:12Speaker 6

About the 6th, that's Tuesday, the day before, and that works for the clerk.

1:16:19Speaker 11

I will be traveling and I will not be here. I would be available on the 19th and after.

1:16:35Speaker 9

I have a 3 p.m. on the 6th, but I can move it if I need to.

1:16:44Speaker 17

I'm good either day.

1:16:45Speaker 6

Okay. Okay. You're good either day.

1:16:50Speaker 4

I'm not sure we're going to be able to capture everybody.

1:16:55Speaker 8

Microphone. Your microphone.

1:16:59 – 1:17:15Speaker 6

Oh, sorry. I think I had it going on and off. So thank you. So how about the sixth? And we could do it at About 3 o'clock or 2 o'clock? Do you think it's going to be a three-hour?

1:17:18Speaker 8

That's a decision of the council. Sorry.

1:17:20 – 1:17:32Speaker 9

Well, I guess I would, I mean, I think you're getting ready to ask the same thing of Madam Clerk that I was. What is going to also work with city staff so that, I mean, you guys aren't unduly interrupted either?

1:17:34Speaker 8

Either can work. So two or three will be fine.

1:17:38 – 1:17:53Speaker 6

How about we make it 2 o'clock? That way we've got got the time and then we're not going to be going over late. Mr. Daniel. Oh, I'm good. Two o'clock. Perfect. Okay. Council Member Sonata, I see you got your hand up.

1:17:57Speaker 10

Thank you, Mayor Knapstead. So my question is to Madam Clerk. If I am not back by then, will I be able to zoom in on the BOA?

1:18:07 – 1:18:21Speaker 8

Thank you for the question. Because the matter is a quasi-judicial matter, participation through Zoom is not permitted because you're not receiving and hearing the evidence in the same manner as the rest of the board. Thank you.

1:18:24 – 1:18:50Speaker 6

Good question. I forgot about that. Do we want to push it back then or do we want to leave it at that date? Well. If we move it back, it starts interfering with other things. It sounds like Councilmember Petty is going to be gone. And I'm not sure. I don't want to speak for Councilmember Sonert. I think her return is still. Maybe I missed that.

1:18:51 – 1:19:15Speaker 8

Maranac said, if pushing it out closer to the meeting on the 21st would not affect us. When absentee voting is going on, we just close the door. The election at that point will be in go mode. Ballots will be done. Voting will be started. And in the weeks before that, we are in a big push getting ballots done and everything prepared.

1:19:17Speaker 6

Very well. So we're going to take it out toward the 21st. The 21st is a meeting night. Yeah, it's a lot, but it's

1:19:27Speaker 17

The 19th or the 20th then, or is that what you're thinking? Are you wanting to do it ahead of the meeting?

1:19:32 – 1:19:47Speaker 6

I'd do it ahead of the meeting personally, but it kind of depends on council. I'm fine with either afternoon of the 20th or afternoon of the 21st. Councilmember Petty, will you be back by that time? Yes, sir. I'll be in. Okay. Well, that's a plus. Available.

1:19:53Speaker 7

I'm good with doing the whole, the night of the meeting. My preference would be the 22nd if the other days don't work, but we can make it happen.

1:20:03Speaker 6

You prefer to do it on the 21st? Yes.

1:20:06Speaker 7

I know it's a long day, but then it's all done.

1:20:09 – 1:20:22Speaker 11

So could we have the meeting begin at 1 so that we give everyone plenty of time? So it's all taken care of? If we do it on the meeting night?

1:20:23 – 1:20:47Speaker 6

Well, it sounds like three hours is adequate time typically, so that would take us up to 5 o'clock, and it would give us an hour at the end for over. And by the way, if we had to stop for a meeting, we're going to stop for the meeting, and then we would resume afterwards. So, you know, 2 o'clock on the 21st.

1:20:51Speaker 9

My preference would remain doing it on a different day, but if the majority would rather do it on the 21st, that's fine.

1:20:58 – 1:21:22Speaker 6

Okay, hands on the 21st. Okay, how about the 20th? Okay, looks like it's the 21st. And by the way, both work for me too, so that kind of knocks everything out in one night. So the 21st at 2 o'clock. And Madam Clerk, when can we expect to get the materials?

1:21:22 – 1:21:38Speaker 8

So with this, the notices will go out. The packet, the evidence materials will be due from the appellant and the PELI 10 days prior to the hearing. And we will get that out to you at least seven days before the hearing, depending on the volume and the assembly required.

1:21:39 – 1:22:03Speaker 6

Thank you. For those that haven't done that, that's a bunch of homework to do before the meeting. Thank you very much. That brings us to an action approval item eight, scheduling a special meeting of the city council brought to us by administration. City Manager Eubank, this one is you.

1:22:06 – 1:24:26Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. As council is aware, we had a significant erosion event in Old Town this year at the top of the bluff near Mission Avenue, or what was Mission Avenue, I guess, at this point. The city engaged an engineer to give us a proposed design to provide us some fix over there. We just received that design. Part of this project includes relocation of an existing water main that's in that area. Public Works approached me as soon as they got the design requesting or wanting to know how we could proceed. And the initial request was to do a lay down resolution at tonight's meeting and informed him that those are not possible. The next most probable is a special meeting request. So the Public Works issued a bid today for the work. It will be advertised for two weeks, the minimum required in code. we will provide if the if the special meeting is approved we will provide the city clerk with a a resolution and memo with blanks indicating who the contractor is that will be filled in by substitute at the meeting this the expedition of this is going to allow us hopefully gain us a week to 10 days to try to get this work done before we could experience any freezing conditions that uh really could make the replacement of that or relocation of that water main problematic the other parts of this job are going to try to redirect storm water in that area away from this section where it's spilt over and caused a significant erosion and Mr Fry do you want to add anything that I missed in that So we are asking, like I said, for a special meeting on the 30th. It's being advertised now. Bids are due on the 29th. It's, again, our two-week minimum in code. We'd have a meeting the next day to do the award.

1:24:27Speaker 6

Senior Manager Eubank, my sense of this would be it would take less than 30 minutes, maybe closer to 15.

1:24:36Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. I think if the administration does its job, it should go relatively quickly if we have the information there for you to make a decision.

1:24:46 – 1:25:09Speaker 6

The reason for the question was if there's a block of time and it's going to take, let's say, 30 minutes, it doesn't have to happen at night. It doesn't have to happen at lunch. It could be, or it could be first thing in the morning. So kind of working around everybody's schedule. I can make it work whenever, but I prefer to do something like this either at the very beginning of the day or toward the end.

1:25:10Speaker 11

I would like to request that we do it at the very beginning of the day because of scheduling conflicts on my part.

1:25:18Speaker 6

What is the beginning of the day for you?

1:25:19Speaker 11

7.30. I'm sure 9 would be more appropriate.

1:25:28 – 1:25:41Speaker 6

It's a lot earlier for me, but I like 7.30 and most people don't. So, Council Member Gramee, I know you're looking at your schedule there. Wednesday the 30th.

1:25:46Speaker 9

I have a 9 and a 1. I can try and move the 9. Yeah, I mean, I can try and move the 9.

1:25:54Speaker 6

If we had the meeting at 7.30 or 8?

1:25:58Speaker 9

No, first thing's difficult because I have beginning of day stuff I have to get out. So first thing in the morning wouldn't work for me.

1:26:06Speaker 17

How would a 4.30 in the afternoon?

1:26:09Speaker 9

Yeah, 4.30 would work great for me.

1:26:15Speaker 11

I will not be available.

1:26:24Speaker 7

OK. Noon? Does that work for everybody?

1:26:29Speaker 9

I mean, maybe we need to see what works better for the majority and go that route.

1:26:36Speaker 6

Ms. Petty, is there any time after?

1:26:39Speaker 11

Would 9 o'clock work for everyone? If I'm available. Thank you.

1:26:53 – 1:27:04Speaker 6

Okay, last suggestion I heard was 430 on the 30th. Is it 30th? Council Member Stonehart, is that going to work for you?

1:27:07Speaker 10

Yes. I can make either work.

1:27:12Speaker 6

Okay. Okay, it is 430 on the 30th. And Madam Clerk, you'll send us out a

1:27:23 – 1:27:46Speaker 17

reminder um i move that we schedule a special meeting of the city council on september 30th at 4 30 p.m request unanimous consent second unanimous consent was requested are there any objections seeing none so moved

1:27:47Speaker 6

So that brings us down to commission reports. We have Council on Aging, Council Member Raskin.

1:27:54 – 1:28:27Speaker 17

Thank you, Mayor Nagstead. The council met on the 10th of September at 3 o'clock. Their chair, Ms. Craig, had resigned. Patty Segura has been selected, was elected the new chair. They reviewed the repair required on the canopy that we addressed this evening, and they followed a work session with the plan for the rest of the year. The next meeting for Council on Aging is October 8th.

1:28:29Speaker 6

Airport Commission, Council Member Sonar.

1:28:35Speaker 10

Vice Mayor Askin attended that meeting for me, so I'm going to defer to her.

1:28:43 – 1:29:09Speaker 17

Thank you. The airport commission met on the evening of September 10th, and they received an update from the contractor and the engineer that it's possible that the runway will be back in service by September 21. They had before expected that wouldn't be available until October.

1:29:10 – 1:29:24Speaker 1

And there was short discussion. Thank you. Parks and Rec.

1:29:25Speaker 6

Councilmember Grameen.

1:29:26 – 1:31:49Speaker 9

Parks and Rec met on September 3rd and we were visited by two members of the Kenai Peninsula Pickleball Club who shared with us that they are a large group and growing quickly. They have some grant money and have been looking for opportunities to build and build up pickleball courts around the peninsula. They've been scouting out places and Kenai is where they would like to do this mostly. They're centrally located and we have the space and the opportunities that they're looking for. They are also working to apply for additional grants, but using part of the money that they have, they worked with Kenai Middle School and their Mr. Dosko there the PE teacher and the leadership students and put together a couple of pickleball courts that the pickleball club is utilizing now and Kenai Middle School students are using it through their PE classes. They're looking for additional opportunities in the future to work with the city and the school district in in utilizing spaces for for pickleball and Director Best pointed out that in the master plan, the one deficiency noted for our city in regards to our parks was that we didn't have any outdoor pickleball courts. So he's looking for ways to work with this group and the school district to create more pickleball opportunities within our community and just increase the overall compliance, I guess, essentially with the master plan that was developed because we already have great programs in place. That was our one negative. So we also talked about the Alaska Kite Association created a new chapter in Kenai because it has become so popular in Kenai due in part to our kite fest that happens on an annual basis. And the pumpkin fest is on October 10th. They had 1,000 pumpkins last year, and we'll probably do that many or more again this year. There will be opportunities for people to volunteer, and our next meeting is on 10-1.

1:31:51Speaker 6

Thank you for the report.

1:31:52Speaker 7

Planning and zoning. Council Member Daniel. Thank you, Mr. Nackstead. There was no meeting last week, but there'll be one this coming Wednesday.

1:32:00Speaker 6

Very good. Beautification Commission. Council Member Petty.

1:32:04 – 1:32:43Speaker 11

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. Yes, we met on September the 8th, and the discussion was around new banners for the light poles and also they discussed the opportunities for the flowers for the upcoming year of 2027 and spoke about the christmas lighting opportunities that we have our next meeting will be on october the 13th regrettably i'm going to need someone to cover for me if anyone is available i would appreciate it thank you what day was that Tuesday, October the 13th.

1:32:43Speaker 6

Okay, I'll check and let you know.

1:32:46Speaker 11

Okay, thank you.

1:32:47 – 1:34:53Speaker 6

Thank you for that. All right, that brings us to Report of the Mayor. I have a few items. On Friday, I attended an impromptu sort of retirement goodbye for Mary Bondurant. I don't think I went to all of them. But that was probably the last one. But anyway, a number of city employees showed up and some throughout the day and said goodbye. And I heard Council Member Daniel had been there too. So that was good because I came a little bit later. So it was nice to see her off and she was excited. And we do have our new airport manager here. And so welcome. And I'll be looking forward to meeting you. more thoroughly there. And today I attended Alaska Recreation and Parks Association meeting, at least the very beginning of it was held and hosted. It was held at the Kenai Visitor Center and hosted by our Parks Recreation and by Mr. Best down there. And I did some opening statements and there were about 45 to 50 attendees there from all over the state and a number of vendors, another 10 or 15 folks. So the room was pretty well full and they are meeting today. They met today and they'll be meeting tomorrow as well. And there was a kind of a pre-meeting two days ago too. I wanted to... Thank the fire station for placing all the flags out on the lawn that they do every year for the 9-11. They call it the field of flags, and I'd appreciate it. I like seeing that. It's a very visual testament. And lastly, I want to congratulate Rep Bowling for coming back for us for a whole other year. We'll take you all the way up to graduation, I think.

1:34:56Speaker 6

So that brings us down to administrative reports. City Manager Eubank.

1:35:03 – 1:42:47Speaker 19

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. I'll start this evening with staffing and recruitment. I, too, want to recognize and thank Ms. Bondurant for her, I'm thinking it's almost 10 months service as our interim director while we filled that position. It just really, truly is a testament to Mary's you know, continued commitment to Kenai Airport. She worked there for over 20 years and led that department. And just sincerely, I sincerely appreciate her coming back and assisting and keeping that operation not only going, but moving forward during that 10 months. So thank you, Mary. We have some other new employees that I'd like to welcome. Kristen Bonner, as a police dispatcher. Melissa Earl, as a part-time police administrative assistant. Jay Phillips, as the IT system administrator. John Hammond, as a part-time Parks and Recreation attendant. And again, Mr. Rick Johnson is here this evening with us. He is our new airport manager. We are currently recruiting for a police officer and a utility operator. Give Council an update on Wildwood Drive. The state has issued a change order with QAP. They're the contractor who's actually doing our runway. They're actually also doing the spur highway job. QAP will be repaving Wildwood Drive for the city. The contractor has requested a detour permit from September 24th through the 28th to accommodate that work. So it looks like it'll be getting done this month. Looking forward to the improvement of what is the city's worst road. I definitely want to thank the Alaska DOT for their work and assistance in completing this project. And on the runway project, Councilmember Askin, I do have, or Vice Mayor Askin, I do have a little bit more of an update. The update I have is they're looking at the week of September 28th for potential reopening of the runway. After the 30-day cure period of the asphalt on the new runway, they're in the process of completing the grooving, which is a significant amount of grinding. Last I knew I think public works director told me they were doing about 300 feet a day full width. We have 7,850 feet or so approximately. So there's a lot of grinding to take place. After the grinding, they still have to provide the painting and the markings for that runway. They're touching up on the remainder of the lights and things like that. The last estimate I had was the week of September 28th is likely for reopening, which is right on or even ahead of schedule. So I think it's been a great project. If we can just get some weather here at the end to cooperate, I think they'll knock that thing out of the park. Again, we heard tonight about the proposed data center. I'll reiterate again that I am working with the city attorney and looking at the city's options at a minimum of providing comment, but potentially filing a motion to intervene on the city's behalf as well. I will stress a motion to intervene at this point really does not necessarily have to indicate opposition or support for the project. It can simply be just to preserve the city's standing in the process and assure we have a voice later on in the process. So we will be discussing that and likely have something before you for the October 7th meeting that is well in advance of the November 2nd deadline. That is for those comments or interventions. Regarding housing trends, the September issue of the Alaska Economic Trends, this is a document I believe it's published by the Department of Labor, came out this week. I think there's some really interesting information in there. The median monthly cost of a two-bedroom rental increased 11.1% to $1,336. This last year, it's the second highest increase among surveyed areas. That was for the Kenai Peninsula, not City of Kenai, but the Kenai Peninsula as a whole. The borough added 215 housing units in 2025, including 24 new multifamily units. However, the estimated principal and interest payment of a median valued home was $1,896. For me, this is an astounding number, which is a 98% increase since 2019. So in the last seven years, you've seen a 98% increase in the monthly premium and interest payment to own a home here locally. I will say that that complete issue, I really would encourage council if you have time to go out and read it, is on the Department of Labor Work Service Development's website. And I'll ask Christine to send a link out to council to that document. I think it's definitely worth a read. And I think it also really does support all the work we've been doing trying to get more development, more housing development here in Kenai. Seasonal hours began at the Kenai Community Library and the Kenai Recreation Center. My note says here their winter schedules. I'm going to stick with seasonal because I'm not really ready to commit to winter yet. Recreation Center is now open on Sundays from 11 to 5 and the library is open on Sundays from 1 to 4 through next Memorial Day. Some events happening here. Kenai Senior Center is going to host a Waffle Friday on September 25th, 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. The event's open to individuals age 60 and older, and the cost is $3. The Kenai River Marathon, hosted by the Kenai Chamber of Commerce in partnership with the city, will take place Sunday, September 27th, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. The race will begin and end at the Kenai Visitor and Cultural Center. The Alaska State Fire Conference hosted by the Kenai Firefighters Association chapter takes place in Kenai on September 28th to October 2nd. You should expect to see additional activity at the Regional Fire Training Center and former Challenger Center. I would like to commend both Parks and Rec and our fire department personnel for taking on hosting both of these conferences. You know, they bring a lot of people. The fire conference in itself is bringing over 200 participants plus vendors to the community for the extent of that conference. And I really appreciate the hard work that goes into hosting those. And then, as Councilmember Grimm, you already stated, on October 10th, the pumpkin festival will take place. I hope it's a great day for the community to come out and get ready for that part of the season. And with that, Mr. Mayor, I'm happy to answer any questions.

1:42:48 – 1:43:05Speaker 6

Any questions for our city manager? I guess I have one. It's a little early, but we haven't talked about the bluff for a long time. How is it holding up? And I think there's a final inspection period coming up. Maybe it's next month. Yep.

1:43:07 – 1:43:32Speaker 12

It's scheduled for some time in September. I can't remember the exact date off the top of my head, but the Corps of Engineers will be coming down to do an inspection at some point. I plan on joining in on that walkthrough. So you're actually going to physically walk the entire length? That is, I believe, the plan for the Corps is to walk the entire length and make sure everything looks good for the one-year warranty inspection for the contractor before the final sign-off. Excellent. Thank you.

1:43:34Speaker 6

If there's no further questions for the city manager, the city attorney, Bloom, I see you on Zoom.

1:43:42Speaker 13

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead and members of council. I don't have anything to report, but I'm happy to answer any questions.

1:43:49Speaker 6

Any questions of Mr. Bloom? Thank you for zooming in. Thank you. City Clerk Sainer.

1:43:57 – 1:44:29Speaker 8

City Council Chambers, Thank you, Mr next to just remind everybody that October 4 is the last day to register to vote or update your voter registration to be eligible to vote in the November. City Council Chambers, election and we have worked with the fire department recently to update our mobile food vendor application process to include the fire inspection. City Council Chambers, And that is when we send out our reminder notices of explorations of licenses, it will include the instructions on how to contact the fire marshal to get there. letter also. Then I'm available for questions.

1:44:31 – 1:44:49Speaker 6

Any questions of the clerk? Seeing none, that brings us to item L. Additional public comments. Are there any members from the public who would like to address the council at this time on any topic at all? Anyone? Mr. Navarre.

1:44:57 – 1:47:47Speaker 4

Mayor Nackstead, members of the council, Tim Navar, 719 Sycamore and Kenai. Two things I wanted to, since comments were brought on the discussion for the council's employee evaluation, one thing I think you should look at and consider is AML and asking them. And then also in December, there's the AML conference. I think 9th through the 11th, that you can interact with other members of other bodies throughout the state and get a lot of good information. I can tell you from the past, you know, evaluating your employees is an individual kind of assessment and no matter what questions you ask, it really comes down to your interaction over the year. And that's how you have to evaluate and defend it. But I know that the director of AML knows we'll be happy to, and maybe without spending money on a consultant, and be able to actually get what other entities use the other huge resource who I've used all the time I've ever been in public service is the Clerks Association because they also have a tremendous amount of knowledge and information that can assist you in making a good decision and reevaluating maybe what you do or you don't do. Sometimes people might ask you how you do yours and whether it's a workable thing. That's how it gets better. The last thing is on the housing issue, 100% Communities is hosting on November 9th from 10 to 2. a borough-wide conference on housing called Housing Gaps and Solutions. It's sponsored by the Kenai Peninsula Foundation and Bridges, just like that groups did the last four years with transportation. And that's been a huge success. And so I encourage council members and members of the administration to attend that. I don't think they've to find a location, but they finally did find a date with a facilitator that can, and so I think December 9th from 10 to 2, and I'm sure you'll get notice, but that's a timely subject, and I think you're going to see that yearly conference happen every year for the next four or five years, and I think you'll, it'll benefit everybody. So thank you.

1:47:49 – 1:48:05Speaker 6

Thank you, Mr. Navarre, for the information. Are there any other members of the public that would like to address the council at this time? Seeing no one, that brings us to council comments. Student Rep Bolling.

1:48:07 – 1:49:00Speaker 2

Good evening, Mayor Nackstead and council members. I'd like to start by introducing myself for those of you who might not know me. My name is Joshua Bowling. This year I'm a senior at Kenai Central High School, and I look forward to continuing my work with the city. Now a few important dates. On Friday, September 18th, starting at 6 p.m., Kenai Central High School will be hosting our annual homecoming parade. The parade will follow our traditional route, leaving AIH and traveling down Lawton Drive to the high school. After the conclusion of the parade at 7 p.m., the Powderpuff football game will begin alongside the lighting of the homecoming bonfire. On Saturday, September 19th, the KCHS varsity homecoming game will take place against Houston at 2 p.m. The junior varsity game will take place earlier in the day at 11 a.m. All the above events will be following our 2026 homecoming theme, which is Mamma Mia! Finally, I'd like to congratulate student representative Caroline Karpik for her appointment to the Council on Aging for a second term. Thank you.

1:49:02Speaker 6

Thank you. Councilmember Gremme.

1:49:06 – 1:50:02Speaker 9

I hope that lots of community members will join us on Saturday at the homecoming game to cheer on our football team, but also the cheerleading team and the band students. The band really does a great job working with cheer to fire everybody up. And it's really great to sit in the stands. It's fun. And I wanted to say thank you again for the flags that were put on all the poles for Labor Day. I notice every time it's one of my most favorite things about living in Kenai, but several several residents mentioned it to me too over Labor Day weekend and just how proud it makes them to be residents of Kenai where our flag was flying and celebrating and recognizing Labor Day for what it is. So I appreciate the extra effort that city staff continue to go to to set Kenai apart.

1:50:03Speaker 6

Thank you. Council, Vice Mayor Askin.

1:50:06 – 1:50:26Speaker 17

Thank you, Mayor Nykstad. I too appreciated the flags and the field of flags on September 11th. Welcome back, Mr. Bolling. It'll be a pleasure to work with you again. Welcome to Kenai, Mr. Johnson. And thank you to Mary Bondurant. And I think that's all I've got tonight.

1:50:27Speaker 6

Council Member Petty.

1:50:30 – 1:51:20Speaker 11

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. I will concur with my council members for thank you for honoring our country by raising the flags and also commemorating the tragedy that happened on 9-11 25 years ago. I graciously appreciate the fire department always honoring and remembering. Yes, my thanks goes out to Mary Bondurant for her continued dedication to our Lovely city, and I wanted to welcome Mr. Johnson to the great city of Kenai. A reminder for all, on this coming Saturday, here at Millennium Square, Alzheimer's will be the walk for Alzheimer's to raise money and funds. And anyway, I bid you all good night. Thank you. Council Member Cassana.

1:51:23 – 1:52:23Speaker 5

Well, I guess I could just say ditto, but I'm not going to. I'm going to say congrats to Josh and Carolyn again. Thank you both for taking time as students to participate in local government. I think it's a big deal. It's hard enough to get adults to do it, and so I think you are maybe the best model for both adults and our youth in our community to be involved. I also wanted to recognize Director Best for his role as president of the Alaska Recreation and Parks Association and the conference that he's organized here, which you've already mentioned. And so I'm thankful I get to go be a part of that tomorrow morning and hopefully get to congratulate Tyler and thank him for that in person. And then also, yeah, a big... Welcome to Rick Johnson, and thanks for taking a chance on us. I appreciate it. Council Member Sonnard.

1:52:27 – 1:52:51Speaker 10

Thank you, Mayor Nackstead. I just want to start with thanking Mary Bondurant for her above and beyond service of duty to our city, and a thank you. Well, and a welcome to our new airport director, Mr. Johnson, and a thank you to Vice Mayor Askin for filling in for me on the airport commission meeting. And good night to all.

1:52:55Speaker 6

Council Member Daniel.

1:52:58 – 1:53:43Speaker 7

I think you all said it very well, so I might just do a ditto. But I do want to say thank you to Mary personally because she, I did stop in as the mayor said at the very last minute and it was interesting. I didn't, you know, when I first got on council I didn't understand the airport and how valuable it is. It's a very valuable asset to this community and I'm very thankful we have it and we have great staff to help run it. I'm really looking forward to Mr. Johnson stepping in. But Mary's, I think, left a great, you know, a lot of information for you. She was telling me, I've got plans for this and plans for that. I was like, man, We could have 737s flying here tomorrow if they wanted to. Anyways, it was pretty neat, but I appreciate everybody's dedication, and everybody have a good night.

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