Planning - Regular Meeting

Alright. We're ready to get started here. Can we have roll call, please?

Gilmore? Here. Miles? Millard? Here. Bailey? Here. Apples. Here.

Okay, thank you very much. Need a motion to approve the minutes from the last meeting. So moved. Seconded. Seconded. All those agree?

Say yay. Yay.

Alright, Moving on. Number one, HERC Reynolds. Here he comes.

John Neely

So you're going with a fence?

Yes, sir.

I guess a non see through fence or is it just chain link? Is it going to be just chain link or is it going have

Chain link with green screening.

Okay, with the screen. Yes. That's the word I was looking for. Thank you. Well, we've done this for other parking areas and especially in industrial areas. You all got any questions?

Harold, do we have to

John, have you submitted that yet?

We put a landscape plan in the sale.

Yeah, there was. The only problem that we've come up with is that this is a separate lot. It's not tied to the building itself. So they've basically got two options. They can replat this into one lot or they're gonna have to go to MAPC and get use permit for the parking lot?

Well, I'm sure they're still gonna want it to be gravel even if MAPC grants it.

Can we step in front of them?

We have before. Is it

the whole L? Is that the lot you're

talking about?

Yes, sir.

So all of that would be the Class seven?

Basically the whole lot would be provided there's not anything on the east side or detention or storm water mitigation.

Where's building currently? The rental place currently?

Is it on the other

Two buildings on the south side of the property, the other side of the property on the south side. It's adjacent. Okay.

As owner of this property own the building they're in? Okay.

It's the South property is Hark Reynolds. The l shape we're dealing with is the Max Dacchus family trust.

What's the use? Are you gonna use this for just to park equipment and stuff like that?

Yes, sir. Much like Sunbelt Rentals or the cat rentals, stuff

Q3, the made them curve it? That just because we're granting the variance for the chat doesn't mean we're disallowing the sidewalk or anything else out on the front. Is that correct, Darryl? We're granting the variance for the check. That's it. Okay.

Okay. And ABC would take care of all the other stuff, correct?

Well, it'll all be staff approval. I mean, it's not big enough to make we'll look at it for everything else, make sure it's compliant everywhere else.

So you think if they don't replant, Darryl,

will

come back to MAPC for conditional use?

Well, the reason I asked that about

Well, apparently, the ownership, you're not gonna be able to replat it into one lot. Yeah. You've got two different owners.

So it will have to come

back for conditional Yeah. Yeah. For Parking. It's conditional on I one.

And I one is conditional use.

That's what's confusing me. So we're an I one, we're not in C three.

Right, you're in I one. So if they get the conditional use, do we still have to get

the variance? Yeah, they can't vary. The only thing they could do is approve the parking lot. They can't vary the pavement type. You just

said conditional use of the gravel parking lot.

No, just the parking lot's conditional use. Any type of parking Gotcha, right.

Mr. Chair, I'd move that we grant the variance as requested. Second.

Second. Can I have a roll call vote, please?

Miles, Miller? Yes. Bailey? Yes. Yes.

Thank you. Next.

Alright. Mister Orr? Are you? Tell us what's going on.

I'm building a home on 1200 West Matthews Avenue. Yep. I'm requesting variance to change the ceiling height on the bottom floor to nine feet and the ceiling height on the top floor to eight feet.

Okay. And currently that's in that area is 12 feet. It's 10 and a half on

the bottom. 10 and a half. And nine on the top. Because it's in, if I remember right, it's in the neighborhood transition district. Everywhere else would be 12 foot bottom floor. The neighborhood transition, changed to 10 and a half. Because there's not just a lot of houses down there that have 12 foot ceiling heights. Not many houses in Jonesboro with 12 foot thick lines. No. But the others that he had requested on here being in that redevelopment district, they didn't they didn't apply because the setbacks and everything, he's fine on his setback. Yeah. Think that's It's just his ceiling height that, you know, that we could he came up. Right.

It was part of that West End.

Yes. It's in that whole redevelopment area. Yes, sir.

Darren, I think we granted this variance on more than one occasion.

Been a few times. Okay.

So we're going from what what did you say it was?

From ten and a half to nine on the 1st Floor and from nine to eight on the 2nd Floor.

Is this your house?

Yes. Live in will live there.

Got family down there, don't you?

Yes. My parents built a house on the corner of Washington And Matthews.

Aunt lives around the corner.

Aunt lives around the corner. She lives on Washington And Isbett. So we'll all be in that little three block stretch there.

Anybody would like to speak for or against this variant? Alright. Come on, dear. Just go ahead and slide. Let her speak right there, please. Thank you.

Hi there. My name is Meg Sebastian. I own the house next door to this. I just have a few questions. I'm not trying to crush anybody's dream. I'm just trying to understand. This is the first I've seen of the elevations. So mister Orr left a note, very polite, lovely note on my door. And I had asked him, can you please show me the elevations? I love the idea of a young family living next door.

Who wouldn't want that? I asked for the elevation to site plan, and I've I've never seen it. This is the first time. It looks adorable. And what I saw in the variance was or the the variance application was that he was looking for changes to the setback requirements. And so what I'm just trying to understand is what's actually being asked for. Right? And because I live next door, I'm I'm just trying to see what's actually being asked for. That's all. And is there a site plan that's actually got a PE stamp on it? And what does it look like?

There wouldn't be a site plan with the PE stamp for a single family home. That's not required in Jonesboro. Okay. Annique, do you have

that? It's very difficult. Okay.

So it so what he left me was he was asking for a variance with that he was changing the setback report that he was asking for a variance on setbacks. But what I believe I heard you say is that he's he's not asking for that any longer.

Yeah. He he doesn't need any for for setback. He's plenty off the street in every direction.

Okay. So the only variance is ceiling height?

Ceiling height.

Gotcha. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

Great. Alright.

You got any other questions?

I don't. Thank you.

Thank you. We appreciate it. Anyone else like to speak? Okay. Come on back up, mister Orr.

Do you have any more questions for this gentleman?

I'll make the motion that we accept the variance. Second.

Roll call please. Miles. Millard. Yes. Bailey. Yes. Apples. Yes.

Thank you much.

All right, thank you.

What? Hello. Did I call you up here?

I'll wait.

Get on up here. What John said, good Rob deals

Hess with Stonebridge Construction. We're representing the owners, Stromsing for property at 3,225 South Caraway Road.

The

kind of explanation behind this, we've been in a couple of times, we've had a couple of things we've had to ask for throughout. There was some discrepancy in the overlay district maps versus the verbiage. So when we had talked to the city early on, they told us that this fell outside of that. So we had not had any concern regarding signage because of that. But when we actually went to apply for the permit, and Daryl and I spoke about this, The verbiage reads a little different from where the site is, as far as where the Overlay District from the interstate.

And Daryl might be able to shed a little more light on that. That's really what we're looking for. We've got a road sign that they've our clients had already purchased and had built based on the information that we had from our earlier discussions. But when they went pull the permit, it brought up another concern that there was a kind of a discrepancy between the maps and the verbiage and the code.

Yeah, sure. The maps that you can find on our website show a corridor along I-five 55 showing the overlay district. District. It's supposed to be 300 foot from the edge of the right of way of I 555. I think I got the right number of fives in there.

The right of way for it actually goes all the way to Parker Road, but that's not what's shown on the map. It just took from the center of the interstate and 300 feet each north and south. So we're in the process of updating updating that that to actually show what it should be instead of what is shown now on the map. So Stonebridge came in. They were working with the maps.

Even even my people were working with the maps, and they looked at the signs and and, you know, didn't see anything wrong. And I've happened to walk by and and look, and I said, why is this not a monument sign? And he said, well, it's outside the overlay. Well, it was outside the overlay, but that's not what was shown. So we had recommended coming to y'all, getting it straightened out while we get the maps fixed.

Okay. They are in the overlay. They are. And the overlay calls for a monument sign. It does. You're, y'all what kind

of sign are y'all want to do or bought? It's a pile

on sign. The pile on with this LED.

Yes, it has a basically it's one sign for that entire site. So that actually has the gas price. The gas station as well as Golden Chick adjacent. And all the signage for that whole site is on one. Because we're we've kept that site as one parcel, there wouldn't be another sign on that entire site period. So

And how tall is that sign? Five. 35 feet?

Which is, I think, shorter than what's across equal to what's across the street and way shorter than the other ones around on

Come and go.

So

you're gonna change it to where he would be in the overlay? Or you're gonna change it to take him out?

Would take Oh, it's gonna be in the Overlay District. But everything he did was basically what my staff told him. So we need to take responsibility on this thing. Mean, because if if Stonebridge would have known, they would have they would have done the monument sign. We let it get to the point that you that wasn't an option. I mean, if you've already purchased your sign, it's already sitting there waiting to be installed. I'm not gonna be the guy that tells you, no, you're you're gonna get rid of that one and you're gonna come back and build a build a new one when our the information we gave him wasn't right.

And then the overlay is just for the interstate or is

there an overlay on Caraway? There is not on Caraway, but there is a long interstate. It's the main corridors and I don't know how we skipped Caraway, but we did. But it's, I mean, Red Wolf Stadium Southwest. John Southwest. That that's where the overlays are and all of I 555. Okay. And like I said, the ordinance that was adopted by city council says 300 foot from the edge of the right of way. And when that was drawn on the city maps, it they just went to the center of the interstate and went 300 foot each side.

And then it did not reach.

It did not reach So as they're looking at it, they're saying, well, here's the overlays north of this and it's really not.

Well, and it's even farther because there's the exit ramp and then there's a green space and then there's so it's even farther. It's probably 600 feet from or more probably closer to 700 or 800 feet from the interstate because of where it sets. Like I said, we reached out and we've had multiple meetings regarding this project from the beginning. So this is one of those that we reached out specifically, I did personally and to check on signage to make sure because I assumed at the time that it was on the overlay. And I was instructed it wasn't. So I'll let my clients know that we can proceed on with the pylon.

Where is the sign going right down the corner?

It'll actually be where that tree is shown at the be on the north side of that entrance on Way Road.

Where that black where that black tree is? Is that what you're saying?

No, on on the other side.

Oh, right there. Yeah.

Yeah. Right there.

Actually on Care Way.

It'll be about it'll be on Care Way, but it'll be off of Care. Just off a little bit because too tight to put it on front of the gas station.

I don't know that we've got the capacity to remove a piece of property from Overlay.

Again, we're not taking the property out of the Overlay District. We're asking for a variance for this. Is it a sign variance? That's what we're truly asking for.

That's all we're asking for is the sign. We're not asking for anything else.

Everything else is in compliance.

Yeah, everything else. Yeah.

I thought I thought we had done that previously. Okay.

Across the street you got the same thing.

Yeah, we're fine with it being limited to the sign only. There's nothing else.

That's big deal with me is that we're not taking the piece of property district. We're just running a variance on the sign. Heif. Right. At the end of the day, it's the height of the sign.

And height.

And and top, yeah.

Yeah, that's all we're dealing with today.

Make a motion that we accept variance for the sign.

Do we have a second? Second. Roll call vote, please.

Miles. Millard. Yes. Bailey. Yes. Apples. Yes.

Any

other? You wanna make it 20 foot tall? No,

sir. Not today. I wish everybody a Merry Christmas. Merry

Christmas y'all.

Merry Christmas. Thank y'all. We done.