Code Enforcement - Regular Meeting

Alright. Good afternoon, everybody. It is 05:00 and we are right at time to call to order the City of Jonesboro Public Safety Council Committee meeting for the day. First on our agenda today, we have roll call. If you're on this committee and or in attendance if you will mark your vote on the device in front of you.

So seven people in attendance. Thank you very much. So we do have a quorum and we'll continue to move Next on the agenda we have the approval of minutes from our previous meeting on Tuesday 02/17/2026. And if you had an opportunity to review those minutes, I will entertain a motion for approval.

Move to adopt unless changes are noted. Second.

Okay, I have a motion and second for approval of minutes from previous meeting. Everybody that's in favor of approving the minutes as presented, if you will denote your vote on the device in front of you. Okay, that item does carry. Thank you very much. Moving on to the next item on new business is going to be we have three ordinances to be introduced this evening.

First of all being ordinance twenty six zero zero eight. An ordinance to amend ordinance ninety three seven forty one to reinstate the multi way four way stop signs at Raines And Wilkins Intersections. Be it ordained by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas Section 1, the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas hereby amends ordinance ninety three seven forty one to reinstate the multi way stop sign at the Rains And Wilkins Intersection. Section two, this ordinance authorizes the city of Jonesboro Street Department to make the above amendment with the passage and approval of this ordinance. Section three, this ordinance being necessary for the preservation of public peace, health, and safety, there is hereby declared an emergency, and this ordinance shall take effect and be in full force from after the passage and approval.

Do I have a motion?

Move forward to full council.

Second. Okay.

I have a motion and a second for approval of this ordinance. Do I have any questions from anybody on the committee?

Just one. Now I understand it's already a four way intersection. This is just changing the sign. Is it gonna be one of those that highlights and flashes supposed to be more prominent?

This is really just to clean up the fact that there's an ordinance saying it's supposed to be a two way stop. It's been marked as a four way.

Yeah, it's been a four way stop for a while.

Since probably I know '97 when I lived at that intersection it was four way stop. So we just we came across it and went well it's it's a four way stop. We probably ought to clean that

up. Okay.

Alright, thank you.

Thank you, Craig. Any other questions from anybody else on the committee? Okay. Anything from the administration? And anything from the publics in attendance? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and we will call a vote on this item. Okay and that item does pass. Thank you everybody. Moving on to the next ordinance on the agenda. That will be ordinance 26,009.

An ordinance to the city of Jonesboro to place various traffic signs at designated locations as determined by the traffic control committee. Now therefore be it ordained by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas to make the following changes as recommended by the traffic control committee. Establishing a 25 mile an hour speed limit on Hillcrest Drive between Nettleton Avenue and Wilkins Avenue.

Move to recommend to the full council.

Second. Okay. I have a motion and a second to recommend to full council. Do you have any questions from anybody on the committee? Any from the administration? And any from the public in attendance? Okay. Seeing none, we will go ahead and we will call a vote on this item. Okay. And that item does pass and will be forwarded on to the full council.

Moving on to the next item on the agenda, the final ordinance being ordinance two six zero one zero. An ordinance by the city of Jonesboro to place various traffic signs at designated locations as determined by the traffic control committee. Now, therefore, be it ordained by the city council for the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas to make the following changes recommended by the traffic control committee, establishing a 20 mile an hour on Main Street from Washington Ave to Kate Ave.

We recommend

full council. Second.

Okay. I have a motion to second to move on to full council. Do you have any questions from anybody on the committee? Anything from the administration? And anything from the public in attendance? Okay. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and we will call a vote on this item. Okay and that item does carry. Thank you everybody very much. That is the last ordinance on the agenda for today which is going to move us on to the next item being pending items.

I know of none unless anybody else on the committee has anything to bring up and seeing none brings us up for our next item on the agenda being other business. Tonight we have two communication documents to discuss. The couple of lease proposals for the Jonesboro Police Department which we will get into but I did have a couple of other items that I wanted to bring up beforehand. I noticed Brian just a couple of things I don't know if you could help me speak on this just really quick. I noticed that vector mosquito control that RFP that we had issued for that or there we go, Tony, sorry.

Tony, if you don't mind, whenever I noticed that the RFPs were closing for that at 02:00 tomorrow, if you don't mind, have we had any more than just our current vendor that have applied

We for have had inquiries from our current vendor and one other vendor at this particular time and I do anticipate proposals from both of them by the deadline on tomorrow.

Perfect. Good. If you don't mind, could you forward those proposals to the committee?

Absolutely.

Great. Thank you, Tony.

You're welcome.

Okay. And next one, I did have a question for Craig. Craig, if you don't mind, I was gonna ask you about a intersection that I'd come across while it's actually been over a month and it's taken me all this time to remember this. But the intersection that we have for Cole And Wood Street and Thomas Street, where we've done some sidewalk expansions on that side. And I've noticed that on Cole Street, whenever you're turning onto coal from Nettleton that I don't know if we just need re strapping or if we need to look at that orientation there. It's just it gets a little tight there when you're turning back right onto

Those pavement markings need to be milled off. I'll talk to them about getting that done.

Okay, gotcha. Perfect. Thank you, sir. Okay. We get into these lease proposals, does anybody have anything else for public safety?

Okay. So the next item that we have on the agenda being these two leases that have been provided to us to discuss here today. I've tried to think couple of ways to necessarily go about going through these and identifying pros and cons or anything else. However, I think that that can be best reflected by the subject matter experts. So I was gonna ask at this time that if chief or assistant chief would like to come up and make a statement regarding those, thought that this would be a good opportunity for us to kind of see the all encompassing effect of both of these leases.

Thank you, Mr. Chair and it to the we're about think next

by

Mr. The Caldwell. Questions So there's two different proposals we're going to talk about and looking forward for your feedback on these two. So I'll let AC take over and kind of lay it out.

Thank you chief.

So just by the numbers, our goal is like people that we have displaced right now, they're in different parks buildings and some things like that is to try to consolidate the police services into two buildings. And either one of these options would allow us to do that. And the big difference would be like who would move to which building. So with facility, we would move the bulk of our police services to that larger facility and have just our patrol and evidence and those kinds of things over in the Kerway Road building that we currently occupy. With the smaller facility, we would move our patrol services and some of those things that are in the different parks buildings to that smaller location.

And so either way, we're gonna be able to consolidate into just two buildings which is a whole lot better than if you need this police service I'm gonna send you over there. But you need this police service I gotta send you over here. So it would consolidate us to just those two buildings. Either way we've got to do something fairly quickly. I mean if we're once once the construction starts on the 911 Center like I would imagine that the building that we're in on Washington we're gonna have to get out of that.

We're gonna have to vacate that. So we've gotta have a pretty quick quick solution one way or the other. I've got estimates as far as cost and things like that. I think you guys have, I would hope copies of the proposals that shows the difference in cost. The larger facility initially is $375,000 annually. The other facility would be about $200,000 annually. But again, it's kind of where we wanna go from there.

Sure, I know it's difficult to devour this well. There's quite a bit of stuff here to talk about. So is there any specific items that y'all wanna speak directly to or would you rather us open it up to counsel for questions?

It's whatever you think was, for us one of the things is like how much is the renovation gonna cost? Like what's the best bang for your buck? Like what's gonna cost more? What's gonna cost less? Do we have an option to purchase on down the road? Or do we really wanna look at this as just a temporary fix that for maybe five years?

Sure, anybody on committee? I'll open this up for questions at this time.

I'll both five year leases, do we anticipate this taking I mean, the building of E911 and whatever else we need in that facility, do we anticipate that taking five years? Do we anticipate that taking two years?

So the real time crime center dispatch, that's all it's gonna house, nothing else. All the police services that are currently displaced will be displaced until this tonight is resolved one way or another. So when we start construction down here in Washington for for that, it will be on the back parking lot of the patrol building. So, we'll interfere with some services a little bit but yeah, we can still park down the end a lot and and continue on. But that building is in need of a roof and has been in of roof for the past twelve years.

So as the rains continue, the water is still leaking into the building. So there's concerns at the point in time that something's about to be done there or move out of it also. So urgency of getting something done here sooner than later is kind of crucial. Then if we did get a chance to vacate that building, as we're building down here on Washington, it may give us a chance to go ahead and take that building down during the process. But as AC said during what we're looking at tonight is the cost.

What is the council looking to invest? How much is it going to take on top of the lease for the church building? The renovation cost is on us. And if I'm moving the bulk of services into that building, so you're looking at estimated 1,000,000, 1,500,000.0 remodel and then whatever fixtures we have to add to that. Go to the Caraway site, 12,000 square foot.

I think Mr. Caldwell will incur bulk of those costs on renovations, but we'll still be out some expense. So a little bit cheaper on lease on that. So these are some of the factors that you all have in your paperwork that it's up to you all to look at and mull over. Now the church building is 33,000 square foot.

Would that meet our needs today, tomorrow and in the future? Absolutely. But again, at the end of whatever and we're all fairly confident in the next five years, we're not gonna be building a new police department. I don't think in the next ten years, we're gonna be building a new police department. So whatever we're committing to on one of these two pieces of property or if anything else pops up in between now and then, wherever we're gonna land is probably gonna be a ten plus year ordeal.

So you anticipate what will move into the facility, whether it be on Caraway or down here. Help me understand, because I know we've got a lease for building downtown, if I'm not mistaken, that's on the agenda for the council to move some of the nine eleven staff, correct?

That's a temp lease for that staff only. It's a small small office space lease. If one of these two properties come into play and as soon we can move into them, if the building for the nine eleven is not built by then, then we can transfer them into whatever we're acquiring. So, that's a three year build out and we acquire something and start moving in any sooner than whatever that lease is, we can cut that lease and move those few staff into wherever we're going

for temporary.

I guess I got So I think your question was what's going where? So if we come down here on Church Street, the bulk of police services, administration and all, we're gonna move down here. Criminal investigations, administration, everything but patrol and evidence. And they would patrol and evidence would move to Carrowway Building. And then all the services that are placed in our parks department right now, they would all come down here to the Church Street facility.

So we get everything we need in that building with room left over for the future. And if we go to Caraway, everything that's on the police department building on Caraway now will stay. The patrol division and the outlying facility, it's in the outlying parks departments, departments, they will move to that building. So either way it goes, we're consolidating into two buildings. The question is, and both will have adequate space for today and one for the longer future and so again, there's overall lease cost.

Is there any options to buy a property down the road? Renovation costs taken consideration. So this is where we're back at. What decision does this committee want to look at and think we need to go with it.

Councilman McClain, do you have any follow-up? At this time. Okay. Yes, sir.

Kevin or me?

Not sure. Which one had

a question?

Councilman Brian. Just to expand a little bit more Chief Assistant Chief, let's say Caraway Road, think that's at how much that capacity is it at versus the Methodist Building, how much capacity are we at versus as we look to the future?

So the next ten year future, forecasting ten years, I think either one will certainly suffice. Obviously the Union Street, the church facility, will cover the next thirty to forty years if we were there that long. There's 33,000 square foot in that building. It's three floors. The top floor right now is currently is not even built out. It's vacant. So I could house everything but patrol and the motor pool down this way. Now on Caraway, I have plenty of parking. We have plenty of room. The thing about that property there's a lot of land around it.

If something happened and we got locked into that thing and that space was not adequate and we end up buying that building, then there's room to grow. The egress getting in and out of that is we got Caraway, we can cut through between the two restaurants and then to the back alley. One disadvantage down here on Union, the parking is across the street. There's a lot across the street that will be part of the lease, but the city will be responsible for sealcoating the lot and striping that lot. And I'm looking at parking about 75 cars during the business day on the lot down a bit little a

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that only do

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are here tonight also. If there's anything as far as leasing and whatever you have in your packets, they'll be here to discuss also.

Chief, just run down the cost one more time. $3.75 a year on the Methodist Church.

First year.

First year.

The first year. They built into their lease proposal a gradual increase from, and that first year is at a bargain, dollars 10.3 a square foot, but it slowly goes up until year ten. They gave a ten year proposal, although we're only looking at the initial five, where the other would be steady across the board, the same $16 a square foot.

What's the increase on that?

From $10.30 to $11.70, $12 and a nickel, I've got the you talking about annual cost? Yeah. Okay. I've got the annual cost as well.

Mr. Emerson just handed it to me here. Okay.

I think it's part of that lease

I start to say like year five would be $422,000 a year.

So on Kerway property, what's the initial lease?

It's 196,528. So just a little under $200,000

On construction cost, it was a million plus on the Methodist Church.

That is not by any architectural means by, you know, that just kind of spit balling what it would take to come in and add what we need to add. That is a very rough number. But at the end of the day, that is something we're gonna have to look at is figure again to this that, hey, we gotta come up with this plus that. If it's a million, million and a half, I don't know. But we're adding more. We're condensing that more people into that building. So that means more office space and more

More cost. And it doesn't have

More equipment.

If you think about public access to a law enforcement facility, you don't want everybody to be able to just walk in the back door. You wanna have some security to your facility. I mean, even our accreditation points that out. And so that's not what a church building is designed for. It's not designed for limited public access. It's designed for everybody to come in. So there would be some cost to kind of set up that.

We're thinking a million plus on construction, plus then going across the street and sealcoating and restripping

Yes, sir.

The block over. What about on the Caraway Road? What is what's our initial construction moving over there?

From speaking to Mr. Caldwell, a lot of that call should be on him. I'm not sure how much, it could be 100% or what. But if I'm misspeaking, he's welcome to step up and correct me on that. During

You're expecting a ten year lifespan before we would either build a new police station or move out of that one. A million dollars plus on initial construction is a pretty good chunk when we lease Caraway Road for $200,000 a year. We have the first five years for free. That's what I'm considering here is.

Yes, sir. That's, again, our job is to present you with the information that we have and use the committee to take it from there and digest. And again, know, doing our we look at the same thing as the cost. And at the end of the day, you know, is there an option to buy the church property? Don't know if that's been defined, if that's available or not.

There is an option on the Caraway Building. We can either buy it up front. It being commercial property, I think it's certainly if we end up buying it down the road and did build a big new police department ten, fifteen, twenty years down the road, that'd be a property that'd be easy

to sell. Think both of them.

Getting that property about five acres on Caraway, somewhere in that ballpark?

Roughly.

Okay, so would that give you adequate room for possibly future expansion and parking?

Yes, yeah, there's plenty of, the building is 12,000 square foot and behind it's a huge green space that we could certainly add fencing and add secure parking as time as time grows, time goes on. So it's for convenience, it'd be ideal for my patrol officers to be able to pull up the side of the building, walk right in for their meeting, and get out and go different directions depending on traffic. Looks good. Now, of course, patrol would be on care way if we should go to church. Patrol would be in the Care Way Complex at that point. And for them getting in and out, it's still not gonna be a problem.

Our commitment's always been to build you a new station from scratch. So the idea at the end of the lease of purchasing is really not figuring into my decision because I think y'all deserve a new building that houses everybody. And we had that discussion on Washington. So mean I'm trying to, so in your opinion and both of your opinion, either one of them will work for you and you can make do with either one of our decisions.

We can make do with either one of your decisions.

We always do.

I mean that's just bringing it down to a financial decision for me because you're both telling me that either one is adequate. I'm telling you that in ten years we're gonna be building a new station so we just have to figure which one's gonna be the best bang for our buck for that ten year period.

How much money you're gonna invest and then walk away from it at the end of the day. I got you.

Thank you, Chief.

Okay.

I'll see have one more question. And assuming we say go avoid the one m, what kind of timeline do we think because there's going to have to be a remodel period, but I don't know if we're talking it'll take two weeks to remodel or two years for each facility because I do know we have people scattered and we do need to address that.

We're not

gonna do

a knee jerk reaction tonight but we do need to address that sooner than right later. What kind of time would it take to do a remodel?

So your first step is we have to get architect on

board architect Right, understand steps. Didn't know if you

had a rough idea. The contractor have to come back, I'm assuming, to the council to do that. And then the second phase will be getting a contractor on board to do what needs to be done. And again, if we're putting a bill for that, then that's on us. If Mr. Caldwell is putting the bill on construction down here, then he may have resources to get it done quicker. I don't know. That would be a question maybe he can answer. So what exact cost that he may cover for down there? Needs to be done? Again, would say direct your questions to him.

I think there is some information in the packets that you have. If you think about it just from a common sense standpoint, a smaller building is gonna take smaller time to build out.

Looking at the, it says the tenant would only have, we'd have 200,000 in improvement, is that correct? At 200,000, so if it's more than that, then we got the rest of it. And the building down here off Union, we have no allowance.

Correct.

Either entity approached us about buying either one or and have we asked that question about purchasing?

So, the place on Caraway is for sale as we speak. So, that that is an option if you want to buy it straight up. The church right now does not have an option.

What is the asking price for the property on Fairway, chief?

Mister Caldwell. 2,000,000. Again, goes back to is that an investment the city wants to make and something we would actually own in ten, fifteen years. If we do vacate it for a new building, could we recoup our money? We just ask that you take that consideration also.

Noticed we have the proponents for both of the properties here. Do either one of them, Carol, do you want to say anything about your property on Caraway Road? Sure. And then I think Mr. Parker's here for Let's the hear from both of them.

Carol Caldwell. Half the building's already built out. Chief's had the keys for a while. So you don't have to spend any money in 6,000 square feet. Bathroom's already in. Building's firewall is already in. So the 200,000 is about what it's going to cost to do the build out, the total build out on the other side. So any other questions? I think there's the timeframe. After an architect, after you put it out for bids, I'd say three months. But the other half, the 6,000 that's ready now, you can have the keys tomorrow, you can move it in tomorrow.

Is there an opportunity to apply a portion of the lease to the purchase price?

No.

You knew I was gonna ask, I always ask you before we talk about real estate.

What's the initial lease on that, Carol? What's the frame on that? A year at the time or two years or

five years?

Well, offered five. We're open minded to whatever it takes. When it's finished, you shouldn't have to spend any money on it at all. The $200,000 I think is enough money to do the build out on the other half. You can do heating air, electrical and plumbing and that's it. It's 6,000. I was told it's going be a lot of cubicles. And like I said, the 6,000 square feet, you start moving in tomorrow. You don't have to do one single thing. It meets all the barcode stuff.

It meets the privacy about what he was talking about where I think the public can't go in part of it or something like that. Is that right? The building's already set up for that. Just a stroke of luck that it is, but it is.

I think Chief, you touched on it a little bit, but do we have enough parking at both, I assume the building downtown, we have enough parking, do we have enough parking on Caraway?

Yeah, there's 30 something spots right in front and 82 on the side. We've got plenty of parking.

Thirty two and eighty two.

And it's already in. So again, the parking

lot comes to the church across the street. It would be adequate for current staff that would be there, the 72 cars that would be there daily. But if we had a class, which just has some nice classroom, would be a nice classroom area. If I brought in 30 to 50 more people during that day, we could overflow over on the other church lot. Right to the right desperately need will be down there.

So if I brought a class of thirty, forty people in, I still have room for those attendees plus what staff would be in that building day in and day out. So the short answer to your question is yes, adequate parking be adequate on both spots.

Chief, the $2,600 lease we're considering on Main Street for six months tonight. Would if we took the smaller place on Careway, would there be room for them in six months?

Yes, sir. Okay. Yeah, we can certainly carve out a piece for them and the training room that we're talking about would suffice for them. They're training these dispatchers so.

My main concern is if we went with the smaller facility would we eventually be able to move them into?

Yes, would be room both places to accommodate them and then if anything else popped up, we can probably make those accommodations also. Some of the additional cost on this besides the build out going to a cubicle concept, there'll be some office furniture, there'll be some funding for that that will be need be. So I'm trying to cut down on the number of walls that's going up and go to more of an open area with a cubicle design to kind of help cut down on construction cost. So it'll just be a little bit more efficient and cost savings. And then down the road if we do get a new building wherever then if the equipment we can pick up the cubicles and move them elsewhere.

Does anybody else have any more questions for Mr. Caldwell? Okay, at this time I'll have Mr. Parker come up and speak to the FUMC building. And Chief, you might just want to hang out.

Thank Mr. Chairman. My name is Don Parker and I am chairman of the board of trustees of the First United Methodist Church. We were contacted I think back in November or December about the possibility of leasing our youth building which has really been underutilized since it was built and certainly we welcome the opportunity to visit with the city and there were a lot of discussions went back and forth and we put together a proposal based on what I had understood was would be acceptable to the city. Kind of hear tonight it's more indefinite terms and I'm just here to tell you if there's a negotiation to be done, we're certainly willing to negotiate.

The building is 36,000 square feet, not 33,000 I didn't want to make that clarification. And when we started looking at it, I had understood that at least the first two floors were pretty much ready to move in. And so tonight hearing a million dollar number for renovation was a little shocking to me as I'm sure it was to you all. I think that again, I don't know exactly things may have changed since we went through the building with the chief and other city officials. But there are a number of individual offices rooms that could be easily converted, I think fairly cheaply for use for city services with the police department.

So we have our proposal. I know there's been some discussion about an option to purchase. Certainly we would consider that if it's something the council wanted. My understanding was the city is not in real position to do some buying right now. But if that's important to the city, we would certainly consider that from the church's perspective. And I'd be glad to answer any questions that you all may have about the facility or about our proposal.

Thank you, Mr. Parker. Only thing that I have are some questions that were submitted by the committee or anybody else that was on council. And I think a of these have been spoken to tonight. And of course, you being said that we're open to negotiation on some of these. But one of these that came up that I think is not necessarily covered in there, but it was like the clarification on the depreciation process for roof repairs. Could you speak to that?

That was actually, I thought, a good suggestion by Brian when we were talking about if there was, let's say, you've leased it for ten years and there was a new roof required in year eight and we put a twenty year roof on it. Well, at the end of the lease, if the city moved out and didn't continue leasing the facility, we, the church, would pay the city back the unamortized portion, I. E. Eighteen years for the roof. So basically, you're paying whatever you pay for. If you move out, you're recouping the unamortized cost.

Yes, sir. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Parker?

We heard a purchase number on our way. Would, has the church thought about a number for purchase?

We have not thought about the number but we would certainly consider a reasonable proposal. Probably an appraisal would be appropriate thing to do. And I guarantee you could buy an existing building cheaper than you could build a new one.

Thank you.

I am loud enough but they'll complain in the back. There was something on there that said court services was allowed but probation was not allowed and and on the misdemeanor side that's the same thing. So would probation services for the misdemeanors be allowed in that building because right now they're one of the unhoused groups from 04/10?

Those were, those that list of approved divisions was what we received. Yes, I think there might have been some confusion there but the biggest thing I think we did not there were some church members that didn't think it would be appropriate for district court to be located there.

Do we have any more questions for Mr. Parker?

I get one last question and this may be Chief, Mr. Parker also. It's 36,000 square feet, is that Chief big enough to consolidate the current Caraway Road and the current everything that we have besides the real time building that will be eventually built?

I cannot essentially shut down Caraway Road and move to one facility because patrol operations are twenty four hours, seven days a week. And trying to run that patrol out of this building down here, not being able to park next to the building, just not feasible.

Not to mention, let me remind you that if we close down Caraway Road, we no longer have control of that building. It reverts to either ASU or the US Army.

This building, moving everything into this one building, I would lose bay access, my motor pool. Either building, there's no way I can walk away from Caraway Building until we take into consideration if we're going to build a brand new complex, it will have to include evidence, a large motor pool. So whatever cost we were talking previously talked about jacked it up considerable amount because and then plus the lot for storage. I don't think all the stored and evidence vehicles sitting down there on Caraway, we want them the church lot down here on Union. Down here on Caraway, everything is kind of behind the building, out of sight, out of mind for the most part, but you put that out on Main Drive thru, the curb appeal was just not there.

We could always build a fence, but a tall 10 foot wooden fence around that lot would be another building. Again, even consolidated everything down there, I would have to have actually more parking because that lots can be full as it is with 70 cars and I took everything else plus the extra vehicles. I would need both lots. So, you know, day, now Caraway will have to stay as is. Services will still be split to some degree, just depends what building we go with and which will go where. We've already kind of discussed that.

Any other questions for Chief or Mr. Parker?

And to back up on Mr. Parker's comment about the million dollars. Yeah, there are parts of that building we can't walk in and use. Don't get me wrong. But if I'm taking everything of investigative and records out of Caraway and moving down here because there's no sense buying a 36 or releasing a 36,000 square foot building for just a handful of people.

I'm going move police operations then yeah there's going to be more walls and probably going up on the 3rd Floor and more furniture so that the cost plus construction I think will be very high. But again, the furniture aspect of it, yeah, we keep walk away when we go back to a new building, whatever, that investment is still there. But there will be some certain some inherent construction costs. And again, we're having to pay for architect either way we go.

Questions? Chief, didn't want to add one thing. There was some discussions early on about just leasing the first two floors which really satisfies the city's needs but just from an access standpoint it didn't really make a lot of sense. We talked about it and it was kind of difficult to figure out how we could both use the building. The third floor is unfinished. It's heated and cooled but it's not finished out. It's one wide open space. It's lighted and heated and cooled. So there would be, you could basically design it however you wanted to, I think, like the building on Careway.

Correct. The only concern that if we didn't take the 3rd Floor and it's still left with the church, then that falls under CJIS concerns of being compliant with the Feds computers and things being secured. So there is a federal government guideline there that component that to take into consideration on secure facilities. We can make it happen. We could harden it. It would be changing out doors and a lot of locks. But again, not saying it can't be done. I'm just saying it will drive the cost.

Anything

else for Chief or Mr. Park?

Everything's up for discussion and consideration.

All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Appreciate y'all.

All right.

This is giving us a lot to think about tonight. A lot of numbers, a lot of asked to dot teased across things to necessarily work out before we continue any discussions on these items. So at this time, we'll go ahead and we will we'll we'll go ahead and close comments for other communications. If anybody has any questions that they've necessarily thought of or anything any additional information that they need to move forward in these, please feel free to send it to myself and I'll distribute it to the active parties. Only other thing that we have on the agenda tonight for public safety is going to be public comments.

This is an opportunity from anybody in the public to come up and to address the Public Safety Committee. If there's anybody in attendance, this is your time to step to the podium.

Mr. Chair, while we're waiting on public comments, I noticed Mr. Caldwell's proposal had a 30 deadline on it. Are you anticipating calling a special meeting in say two weeks to decide which one of these two proposals we're gonna go with?

I think that that would be for Mr. Caldwell. How are we good on that thirty days or could it be extended to forty five, sixty? Okay, gotcha. Thanks sir. All right, Seeing nobody else that has come up for public comments. Next item on the agenda is adjournment.

So moved. Second.

Okay. Have a motion.