Prison Committee - Regular Meeting

OKAY. WELCOME TO THE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, MEETING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED ADVISORY COMMITTEE. CHAIRMAN WALF IS NOT HERE, SO WENDELL WILL BE AS VICE CHAIR, ASSUMING THE CHAIRPERSON DUTIES.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO START WITH ROLL CALLS.

IS THAT FINE, SIR?

YES.

OKAY. Can you hear Darcy? There he is. Here. OK. We'll do you last. Chairman Rolfe is absent. Stoonich?

Here.

Walker? Here. Rouse? Absent. Rico absent. Randage? Here. Fryer absent. Parker? Absent. O'Hara?

Here.

Mr. Martin?

Here.

Ms. Howard? Here. Ms. Gruenberg? Present. Mr. Dorris? Here. Ms. Bottomley? Here. Councilman Cardenas? Here. And Mayor Darcy?

Here.

Okay, we have quorum.

All right, approval of the last minutes. So moved. Second. It's been moved and seconded. Are you ready for the question? All in favor say aye. Aye. Nays? Aye. All right, citizens to be heard on agenda items.

Anyone here to speak on an agenda item?

No.

Okay. All right.

Let's move to old business. None. So that brings us to new business, the comprehensive plan project timeline.

All right. Thanks, everyone. I'm going to kick this part off. I do want to say we have our consultant team on participating virtually. So we have Prayag Bagday. Eli Lecter from the Lamar Johnson Collaborative, and with their subs, Steven Karbelis.

Did I say your last name right? Close? Yeah.

Katrina Balog, and then she's our, as many of you know, our consultant, our sub, but she is our community engagement consultant, so she works for MUSE. So what we thought we would do today is because we are in the finish line, as many of you know. So we are still working internally on the draft plan, but we thought this would be a good opportunity to bring everyone up to speed on what to expect in the next several months getting this to the finish line. So everyone should have a handout that says, Joliet Comprehensive Plan Updated Project Schedule. which is, it is subject to change. I had to put out that disclaimer. I'm going to go through this and then please do interrupt me with any questions or comments. So here we are today. We are at advisory committee meeting on September 2nd and Hopefully this will be self-explanatory. We're going to go over the project schedule and then the content and format of the final open house and then our outreach efforts leading into that open house. mid-September, on September 15th, and then after that, we being the consultant team and then myself will be meeting with city council members, which we did the same format at the beginning of the project, so this is built into our agreement, and that will be to specifically get feedback on the future land use map that will be included in the draft plan. And then at the end of September, the draft plan will be sent to city staff for review internally and then with our leadership team. And then the goal is that on and around September 30th, that would be a week out from your next advisory committee meeting on October 2nd or 7th, we will post the draft comprehensive plan to the city's website and then email the advisory committee copies of or links to the draft plan. So that is September. Any questions?

Can I ask a question? Yeah. What is the visual going to look like? I mean, I'm a simple visual observer of things. Is this going to be like a heat map of the city that would identify ideas by a color that would say this is where we want this, this is where we want that?

Yes.

So that will give us a true identification of what we're looking for in the different aspects of the 41,000 acres of Joliet.

Yes, so the draft, future land use map, so we'll be color coded and identified just as you said. Our city is so big, we do envision there being one big map with the whole city and surrounding areas, areas that the city has within our boundary agreement, our planning areas. And then we anticipate there being subsets so that someone who's interested in the details of certain areas of the city can or unincorporated areas do can zoom in and look at that.

So you can basically click on a zone and understand what we're looking to do in that particular part of the city. And then I know that we're in parallel working on zoning changes, particularly like for downtown on tights and things like that. Will that be integrated into this as well?

Yeah. yeah the the yes the land use map would have a shading that um signifies what the vision is that we're already working towards with the zoning yep okay keep it simple month of october october 1st We're going to begin substantial community outreach. So we'll talk a little bit more about that at this meeting. But neighborhood councils, community events. We've worked with the Chamber of Commerce, for example, in the past, as well as City Center Partnership and African-American Business Association laid out to really push out the message of getting people to the open house and then getting people to comment on the draft plan when it's available. So that will be the big push.

starting in um october jane can i back up a second to the uh neighborhood council meetings um can we get a draft of all those dates all those times to get as many people at those community meetings or those neighborhood meetings as possible yeah i'd like i'd like to attend them all we should probably have a few of us attend them all to share the work we've all done and reinforced and again, get more thoughts from them as we talk about their distinct neighborhoods.

Yeah. Yeah. So right now, um, the plan is to have Francisco and I, um, go to all of them, um, one or the other, or maybe occasionally both of us at the same time. And then the goal will be to have advisory committee members also attend those if they're able to, just to be there in support. I know some of the council members often go to those too, so Cesar has practiced. Boise runs one of them. Elaine's on a board for one of them. So you guys have all done great jobs thus far, and we wanted to keep the momentum going with reaching out to our neighborhood councils as well as homeowners associations. We do have some pretty active ones on the far west side, so we want to make sure we hit those as well. Okay, so October 7th advisory committee meeting. The plan for this is the consultant team and Key City staff will be here on hand to review the draft comprehensive plan with the advisory committee. We will also at that point provide an example of what the companion, like a sample of what an implementation plan will look like, so that way you can envision that as we have our discussion. We do anticipate this meeting running long, so I'll send an updated calendar invite. So I would block out three hours. We will be providing lunch, that is the plan right now, so that way we can get through the document and have a good discussion if needed. So budgeting extra time for that. Which date is that one? This will be October 7th, our normal meeting. We're hoping to extend the time frame to 1 p.m. just in case we go over. October 20th is City Council meeting date. The goal would be for staff, myself, to provide a status update on the project and promote participation in the final workshop. To make that clear, I wouldn't be delivering a presentation on the draft plan at that point because the open house wouldn't have happened yet. So this would be an opportunity to give everyone a status update and to get excitement about the open house that will be the following week. October 29th, the final open house or workshop number three is scheduled. We have confirmed it with our consultant team. And Juliet West High School, it will be back there. It will be from 5 p.m. to 7.30 p.m. And once again, we'll be reaching out to the advisory committee to schedule certain times to staff the welcome table and other components of that workshop slash open house. And then we're going to talk further about the details of that on this agenda today.

Shane, did you say 5.30 to 7.30 on that one?

Yeah, 5 to 7 30. Yeah, people arrived early last year, last couple times too. The next day, Friday, October 30th, we will be posting the draft plan for official public comment. We are working through still, we have some ideas which our consultant team could better elaborate them myself. HOW WE ENVISION COLLECTING THE FEEDBACK, BUT WE DO INTEND TO HAVE A FOUR-WEEK COMMENT PERIOD, SO THAT WOULD RUN UNTIL NOVEMBER 29TH, WHICH IS THE SUNDAY CONCLUDING THE THANKSGIVING WEEK. SO THAT IS THAT TIMEFRAME. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?

HOW ARE WE, I SHOULDN'T SAY MARKETING, BUT HOW THAT WHOLE COMMENT PERIOD, LIKE, WHAT IS THAT PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC GOING TO BE LIKE?

Well, that's a good question. I envision it being promoted the same ways that we are promoting people going to the open house slash final community workshops. So heavy social media push, email blasts, going again, talking to certain neighborhood councils, community organizations. So a heavy push to get people to comment on the draft plan if they haven't done so already through the open house.

And how are we receiving those comments? Is that electronically?

We're going to talk about that a little bit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. We're also hoping to use our libraries, too, to promote. I'm thinking we might have a visual aid, like a big board at each library. I do have to talk to the library director about that, but that would encourage people to go to a QR code or just the website to draw them to our project website to give feedback on the draft plan. All right, November 4th, so this is the following week after our community workshop number three slash open house. We do have another advisory committee meeting. The plan for that is to do a recap of the draft plan and the open house and then start to have discussions about the implementation plan for the project. Again, November 29th is when the public comment period concludes for the draft comprehensive plan. On December, any questions for November? For December, the advisory committee meeting, we do intend to have one, and the goal for that meeting is to review the implementation plan. In January, this is the finish line here. We anticipate having a committee meeting on January 6th, final plan adoption review. The plan will go to a public hearing at either the regularly scheduled plan commission meeting, which is January 21st, or a special meeting. If we do one, it would likely be January 14th. and then the goal is to get it to city council likely february 2nd but we could do it also january 19th and february committee meeting we anticipate having one i forgot to input the date and this would be to have a wrap-up meeting and then talk about again next steps so plans adopted what would be the next steps i think the meetings actually would be february 3rd so it would be the day after the THE PLAN GOING TO COUNCIL. THAT IS THE TIMELINE GETTING THIS PROJECT TO THE FINISH LINE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. DR. ROSS, SORRY, YOU'RE HERE. OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S OKAY. Consultant team, did I leave out anything you want to elaborate on before we move to the next agenda item?

No, I think you covered it pretty comprehensively. Those dates are obviously all the ones that we've been discussing, Jane, with you and staff, and so it makes sense to us. But happy to elaborate if there's any other questions.

Okay.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

COMMUNITY WORKSHOP NUMBER THREE.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO HANDOUTS FOR COMMUNITY WORKSHOP NUMBER THREE. I'M GOING TO, KATRINA, AT THIS POINT, KICK IT TO YOU. SO I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE WE'LL WANT TO DO IS THE, WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU TELL US WHICH WORKSHIP YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH FIRST.

ALL RIGHT. HI, EVERYONE. NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. KATRINA FROM MUSE. Let's start with the community workshop, the proposed content. We can go through that and then talk a little bit more about outreach. So we wanted to share the idea for the workshop and what kind of feedback we're looking for. So you can see at the top, the outline is the kind of three key categories that we want to think about when we host people at the final open house. The first is orienting people to where we are in the process. So we anticipate making kind of a high level fact sheet about where we've come so far in the plans, where we are, and what they can anticipate and what happens next. It won't be, of course, as detailed as you just heard from Jane, but hopefully it will give people a sense of what they can expect from the plan moving forward. We want to continue to reinforce and share what we've heard throughout this entire process. We've had lots of opportunity for input and feedback, and that has shaped the ideas that are in the draft plan. And so for each activity, we'll make sure that we're sharing, here's what we heard from you, and here's how it's reflected in the draft plan. We'd like your feedback on these certain aspects of the plan. And then the third part is the activities. And so we have four kind of stations that we'll set up where we have targeted feedback opportunities. The first is on the character area map. So if you recall at the previous workshop, we really dedicated a lot of time to having people provide input on what those character areas could look like. And we want to bring those back and say, have people provide input on the elements that are included in the character areas in the draft plan. We want to share the future land use map and get some input on that. And then we want to have what we're calling a partnership wall. And so the idea here is really around with an eye towards implementation is once the plan is adopted, it will not be solely on the city to implement all aspects of the plan. There's a lot of partners that will be involved. There's ways for people who have been involved in the plan thus far to contribute to achieving the goals and the vision for the plan. And so we want to kind of start to generate some ideas there. Some of that may provide good input on the implementation chapter that we'll be working on. And then we'll also have copies of the draft plan. So for anyone who would like to flip through the plan and provide general feedback, we'll have copies available. So on the second section, you can see I've provided a little bit more detail about what those stations will look like. So for the character areas, it will be something similar to what we did at the last workshop, and that will have the character, annotated character area maps that show the different elements the team is proposing for those character areas. We'll have the drone images that we had the last time to help people give context as to what's there now. And then we'll have a board asking for feedback on the different elements of each of the character areas. For the future land use map, we'll have one board that will show the existing land use and then one with the proposed land use. We do anticipate showing the areas in Joliet, the far west, the west, so if people want to kind of provide feedback on the area that they live, there's an opportunity to do that. If people want to provide feedback on the entire map, of course, they can do that as well. And then for the partnership wall, essentially we're envisioning five different boards there that will share, here's what we heard from you around housing or transportation and mobility. Here's a couple of ideas that were example ideas from the draft plan of how we might address that. And then the prompt is going to be, who do you think can help and how they can help? And the idea there is to get people thinking about how they as individuals or the organizations that are a part of or the nonprofits active in Joliet can also be brought in and participate in plan implementation. So we'll have some examples to get people thinking. So we'll pull partner organizations that are referenced in the plan. We'll add any more, but that will just help people think about, you know, what kind of the universe of possibilities are and then people will be able to write down how either their organization that they're a part of or one that they know of might be able to help in the different areas of the plan. And then finally I mentioned the draft plan review. So we're anticipating at the community tables we will have the full draft plan copies available. People can review those and they can either provide general comments on a comment card or we'll have a QR code that will lead people to an email address that they'll be able to provide general comment to. And this, like Jane said, the plan will be posted online and so we'll have opportunity for people who aren't at the workshop to also be able to provide general feedback and input through that email address. I'll pause there before we talk a little bit about the online piece, but are there any questions about the workshop activities or the flow?

I have a question about the partnership wall. So is the goal of that for us to go ahead and just kind of solidify our known partners? Or is the goal to really see if there's any other neighborhood organizations, neighborhood groups, nonprofits that can help out? I guess if we're going to pull out names of organizations that are helping or that we're already aware are going to be key partners, then why are we turning around to our community saying, hey, can you just verify this is accurate? Is that the goal? I think I'm just a little bit lost in the partnership wall. Sure.

And so let me repeat what you said, because it was a little coming in and out. So you're saying, because we do reference some partners in the draft plan, are we repeating what we're doing in the workshop? Or are we asking for new ideas?

Right, yeah.

OK. So yes, there are some partners that will be, that are, you know, named in the plan as example opportunities. The goal here is really to get people thinking about potentially new partners that we haven't thought of or ways in which people can, or people or organizations can help. And the idea is like, Generating ownership for the community people who are there about thinking about oh, this isn't just the city They're gonna take this and just kind of check off and do all the things This is an opportunity for me as an individual to potentially participate in certain ways It's an opportunity for organizations that I know of to participate and so some of that feedback is potentially could help inform the implementation plan, but it's also helping us create kind of a sense of ownership. So it's beyond what is referenced in the plan is the goal to get some ideas. Maybe we missed something. Maybe someone has an organization they know is really active in a certain area and they'd like to kind of lift that up through the partnership wall.

Great. Okay. Any other comments or questions right at this point before we move on to the other component of this on this page?

Okay. All right. And then we had a question a little early on in the timeline of how people can provide feedback on the plan. So we're proposing that we also have an online opportunity. And so what we've proposed to the city is that we kind of take the in-person workshop activities and adapt them for an online component. This is similar to what we did at the last workshop, and we found it was very effective in kind of generating more input than what we received at the open house. It kind of provides those two opportunities if someone is not able on the particular evening on the 29th to attend. And so we would adapt the feedback around the character areas, the land use and the partnership wall and then we would also have that open opportunity for comment if someone has a general comment about the plan they will be clear they can you know send an email to a dedicated email address that will go to the city and they will collect all of those comments and so then we would be able to take the feedback from both the in-person and online combine that feedback and provide it back to the city for kind of any edits or updates we would make to the plan or input on the implementation plan

Yeah, so last workshop, which the physical one was held at the Julia Public Library, there was discussion and then agreement with the committee and staff that there would be an online component, engagement component, which was an add-on, so it wasn't something that was part of the contract for this project. So we did go ahead and do that. Again, the committee agreed and staff was able to make it work, and the consultants were definitely able to make it work. So we're proposing again to do something similar. So looking for corroboration from the committee, if you want us to, um, do an additional online engagement for the final open house committee workshop, number three. Okay. Does anyone feel that we shouldn't do that? Okay, great. Well, we're, we've already, uh, working towards that and Katrina, they said yes.

Thank you. Yeah, the camera's on you, so I'll wait for any feedback or questions.

Okay. All right. Anything else about the online engagement?

It may be a minor question, but is it going to be like a forum where everybody sees everybody else's comments? Because that can get...

No, we don't anticipate that it would be where you respond, and then it pops up with everyone else's responses. So you would respond to survey questions, and that would all be collected on the back end.

All right. Anything else about that? OK.

Well, the next handout that you have is really outlining the communication and outreach strategy that we're proposing for the third workshop. You can see at the top of your page, we've kind of bulleted specific ideas for how you as the advisory committee can help. This is an important part of the planning process. As Jane said, we're almost to the finish line. And we really want to make sure that what we have in the draft plan is reflective of what we've heard from the community. So we're hoping for a really good turnout at the final workshop. We will provide you with a draft email that you can edit and send out to your networks or your community. inviting them to attend the workshop. We will be printing stacks of postcards that you can pick up and drop at places that you frequent in Joliet. We'll be sharing social media posts through the city. You can share and boost those yourselves. And then, of course, there's the conversations that you have as you move throughout your day, inviting your friends and neighbors, coworkers, people you interact with through the day to the final community workshop. And then underneath that, you can see kind of the comprehensive list of communication channels. We try to spread out the communication with a mix of online and in-person. So as Jane mentioned, making in-person presentations is an important part of this, sharing with our partners, draft emails and materials that they can send out to their networks, inviting people to come. One thing I wanted to kind of highlight in particular was this marketing mail piece that's on the second page. This is a physical mailer that will go to residents near the character areas. We employed this strategy at the last workshop and found that a sign-in sheet, when we asked people how they heard about the workshop, we got a fair amount of responses from saying that they got the flyer in the mail. And the flyer in the mail will invite them to the workshop but also point them to the website where they can also provide feedback. And we're proposing to do this again near the character areas. And the reason is we're bringing back the character areas for comments. So we want to make sure people who kind of are near the character areas have the opportunity to provide feedback. And we also like that the character areas that we've chosen are kind of spread out throughout the plan so we get a wide kind of geographic reach by sending out those mailers. And so we're proposing to do that again, do a select number of physical mailers to residents within or near the character areas. So happy to take any kind of comments or feedback on the strategy if you feel that there's a particular method that's really successful, happy to hear that as well. But just wanted to make sure the committee was aware of all of the different ways in which we would like to promote the workshop and then the specific ways the committee can support that.

All right. Any comments, questions about anticipated communication channels for the UNI workshop number three?

Can I ask about turnout last time? The anticipated turnout and how the results were both in-person and online and what the consultants felt about that.

Yeah, so for in-person workshops, I would say we generally, you know, for a plan that's kind of broad city-wide like this, we generally see around 100 per workshop, and that's about what we've been getting in Joliet. Last time we got a little over 100 people attending the workshop. the online you tend to get broader engagement because it's a you know lower barrier for people to you know log on and spend a few minutes providing feedback and so we do generally anticipate um those results are higher so you know for the juliet example the survey that we did early on in the process about 2 000 responses there that was a fantastic outreach. We got a little over 160 the last time we did it, which is a really nice turnout again. So this is typically what we see in communities that we work with, that you can expect about the 100 for the next person. Thank you.

Jane.

Yeah.

I had a question. Pace bus ads. Why wouldn't we include like the Julia Harrell News, WJOL?

um we we do anticipate doing that we we just had a conversation about that um i took the social media category that's in here and expanded it to say yeah print yeah we have the work went down local news and event calendars

and that's where we recommend posting on event calendars, because that often gets picked up by other aggregator sites or other sites, so it's a nice way to spread out the date, but then doing patch.com and the Herald News and other places too.

Any other comments or questions?

Jane, I would just like to step back to the partnership wall from the previous. You know, we're looking at the city of Joliet, but we have Illinois Housing Development Authority. Why would that be? And I know we have Joliet Junior College, but we don't have University of St. Francis.

This is just a random.

This is just random. Okay. It's not final. Oh, no. Okay.

Right. Like, why aren't the realtors on there, Damon?

Yeah. I would agree. Yeah. I would agree.

Yeah. Yeah, we wanted to give a sampling of the list that might be included to help people, you know, thinking about the partners. So we'll make sure that we're kind of going through the plan, pulling every single partner that's there, and then working with the city, too, to make sure that we've included others. But the idea is not to be exhaustive. It's to kind of help people think about, you know, who might be out there and what kind of ways in which people can support.

Any other questions or comments?

All right. Well, that's everything for the community workshop number three. So I guess we'll move to staff reports.

Okay, I have just two updates. So the first is our project web page has been updated to reflect that the economics of community design, or as we often called it, the urban three project is fully complete. Many of you know the presentation was already posted about a month and a half ago on the city's web or project web page. So you have the actual presentation, the presentation slides are up. Now we have added the final report. The final report is up and it's actually in two different layout formats. One is to visually see it on your screen. It's a wide horizontal layout. And then the other one is done vertically. You can download that if someone felt like they wanted to print it or if it's easier for them to scroll through in a vertical layout. That is what you see right now. We need to start promoting that, which I think if we start promoting that right now, that'll help start getting people interested again in the comprehensive plan. And then we will drop that. We'll shift that to another section of the web page. I think it's under reports and resources. And then the opening will be then more about the final open house and draft plan. So as of right now, this will be a way to kind of reengage people. We have been somewhat quiet over the last couple of months as we've been working on the draft plan. So I just want to announce that that is available. Actually, that was my two announcements. Websites have been updated with our project timeline, too. And then the final report is available on the city's project web page. Hey, Jane. Yeah.

How do you envision sort of dovetailing with the comp plan?

It is dovetailed within the recommended actions. So it's, again, it's been foundational as a sort of existing conditions as a resource to support why these are recommended actions. And it also will reflect the future land use map. Thank you.

James? Is there any, I mean, I'm thinking with our outreach for the next open house, I think that we really need to push that this Urban 3 plan is up and ready to be viewed, because that'll help shape some of the feedback we get. Because I think if people are coming into this with their own perspective, based on what they've observed, and it's not informed by facts and informed by data, that kind of helps, well, that informs what they comment on and how they view these open houses. So I think that the two should be pushed at the same time. Like, hey, prep yourself for the open house by watching the Urban 3 video.

I agree. Jane? Yep. The East and Southeast Regional Alliance initially scheduled Dustin as a speaker to present the Urban 3 plan to our neighborhood committee. So I'm wondering if we can still have someone from the city provide that presentation. I think he was on our agenda for October.

The answer is yes. I think we were planning on coming, I was going to reach out to you anyways about October, so I was going to have Francisco or I or both go to that. Okay. Yeah.

Is there a way to kind of like summarize the Urban 3 in an easy to understand format and kind of, because it's not a... I don't want to say the Urban 3 study is up for interpretation, right? We know what it says, right? Yeah. Is everyone going to make their own idea of what the Urban 3 is saying in the sense of what the results are? Like lay people's terms. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because again, if we're going to come into why are we trying to go vertical in downtown, why are we doing this or why are we doing that? From my interpretation of looking at the Urban 3, it says that mixed-use, commercial, residential, all that is where we're getting the most tax revenue, and we're bleeding out on parts where there's not any of that. So is there a way to put that in layman's terms so they see that and they understand why this next step is in the comprehensive plan? Otherwise, we're just telling people to watch the Urban 3 and make their own assessment on it, but then it's like, are they really making an assessment on it?

Or they're even understanding it.

They're understanding it, right. Now, we say that in layman's terms, this is what it is. This is what the results say. Now, dive deep into it and try to understand why it got there. It can be something that at that point someone can really take interest into understanding, well, how did you get there? How does that make sense? But you don't know what you're trying to make sense of until you kind of at least get into that.

So I think that the final report, which is on the city's website right now, speaks to what you are suggesting. It's what, Gray, like 30 pages? I don't even think it's that many pages, especially in the horizontal layout. It is written more in layman's terms. There certainly is some technical terms in there, especially for people who live in the finance world. The conclusion is pretty simplified in that it speaks to, I think, what you're saying.

So can we do like a one-pager summary of the conclusion, right? And then once you have that one-pager of the conclusion, people can go then go into that 30-page thing and really dive into it. They really want to know more about how we got to that conclusion.

Yeah. Just to simplify it. So yeah, we could do a one-pager and then the final report is way more simplified than the slides, which are there as well for people if they want to click on that as an attachment and see all 200 of them.

Because I think that's one of the, this point is, like you said, you're getting into the comprehensive plan, but you're like, well, why are my, why are we adding or thinking about these things when we don't have any data to back it? Yeah. But we do have data now, which is good.

Yeah. Probably reorder that on the website too. Yeah. So it's... Yes, the one-pager presentation.

I would call it an executive summary. That's it for me for updates on

If I'm missing any for something you've been keeping an eye on, you can ask me now or if you have anything during member comments.

There's an African American study that you guys were doing.

What's the status of that? Great question. Still in draft format. August was a busy month for people that we were trying to get a hold of, you know, with the parade. So, in fact, I have an email I have to get back to about recapping and diving back in with our committee and outside partners. So, we're hoping to have it finished this fall with a public presentation either happening in November or If it can't happen, and there's really only two dates, it could happen in November. We would like to kick it to February. I agree. It might make sense to kick it to February. We would like to. That's the goal, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Hey, Jane, just a comment. Thanks for doing this. This is really helpful. Okay, great.

Any other member comments? All right, public comment.

Public comment. Looking for comment?

Only if you want.

Only if you want.

Well, I'd be happy to. No pressure.

If you have official comments, you have to go to the microphone.

Can I go up there?

Yeah.

I would love to do this. Okay. I have only rudimentary followed your process, but it's been pretty consistent. But throughout this whole process what I have not heard is I got papers How are you going to do this? Where is the financial? It's great to have this project management person. You can have your scope. Then the rocks of reality come before. And you have to find political and financial assets to pay for this. You don't need to have the answers. But every time I've gone to something, this has never been a discussion. And the other thing is, when are you going to go? So you come up with this plan. 2026, 2035 rolls on. Not any company will get more in time. Do you have a tentative schedule? A tentative. When is this going to be through? And you can't do that until you know what you need.

I think I can answer that for you and for all of us. We have met with some very large developers that are looking at Joliet to invest in our community. Of course, everything's got to make economic sense. But some of the zoning changes we're looking at are going to give opportunity for more vertical, which makes more sense. And the cost per square foot going up is out. We've got a lot of infrastructure that's already in place that doesn't have to be duplicated. But we have talked to some very large developers that are looking at our community, knowing that we're of the 102 counties in Illinois, we're the fastest growing county with a lot of jobs coming our way, so housing is a need. So we are talking to people that will invest in our community.

You need to tie that in with the conversations. When you go to these groups, it would be great to also explain how we're going to Good question. Thank you.

Thank you for your comment. Any other public comment? None. Motion for adjournment?

So moved. Second? Second. All right. Boise was motioned, and then Nora seconded. OK. WE ARE ADJOURNED. ALL IS IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT, MEETING ADJOURNED.