City Council - Regular Meeting
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Irvine, CA
- Meeting Date
- January 13, 2026
Transcript
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Yeah. You can talk among yourselves. The meeting please come to order thank you for your patience this is the city council regular adjourned meeting of 01/13/2026 The time is 05:25. At this time I would like to invite our clerk Mr. Carl Peterson to please call the roll.
Councilmember Carroll. Here. Councilmember Go. Here. Councilmember Liu. Here. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Here. Councilmember Trusieder. Here. Vice Mayor Mai.
Here.
And Mayor Agram.
Here. Mr. Peterson, would you, at this time, tell people at home and those present here as well how they can participate, particularly how they can participate in tonight's meeting remotely.
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Thank you Mr. Peterson thank you to my colleagues and for those who are participating tonight. At this time I' like to in a moment ask people to rise for the pledge of allegiance which tonight will be presented by vice mayor my he will be leading us in the pledge of please those who are able remain standing will have an invocation at that time which I'l introduce once we' finished with the pledge. With that I'll turn to Vice Mayor Mai who will lead us in the pledge tonight. Those who are able please rise.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. At this time about half of you got it right. At this time, it's my pleasure to welcome the Reverend Thomas Chesley from a touch of love works. Thank you reverend for joining us tonight and leading us in the invocation and welcome.
Thank you mayor aegren and city council bervine for inviting me to do the invocation of gotten permission from the mayor to add a little something something on the top called the declaration of independence If you will bear with me ill try to get through it without any unnecessary pauses. We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed and whenever any form of the government becomes destructive of these ends it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such form that to them shall see most likely to affect their safety and happiness. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transit causes and accordingly all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the form for which they have been accustomed but when a long chain of abuses and use of patience pursuing invariably the same object events are designed to reduce them under absolute deputism it is their right it is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guys for their future security this is the declaration of independence it' a living document it was alive in 1776 when our founders wrote it it was alive in 1968 when Martin Luther King quoted it and it' be alive in 2027 when we go to vote and I thank you for everybody who is in this room and I pray now father in the name of Jesus that you would come and unify us Lord God make us a people who are who are routed and rooted in love help us lord god to be mindful that we are our brother's keeper we are our sister's keeper and everything we do lord god should have you in mind and have the welfare of the people that we live with and the people we work with and the people who are beside us and behind us and in front of us.
I pray that you would bind us together like a three pronged cord that's not easily broken and help us to walk in love for the rest of this year in your name I pray amen.
Please be seated. Thank you, reverend. We need to invite you back for the July 4 festivities here in in Irvine and elsewhere. Thank you. At this time, we have a number of presentations this evening listed as items one point one and one point two.
The clerk please identify these presentations by title.
Thank you, mayor. Presentation item 1.1 is to proclaim 01/13/2026 as Korean American Day. Item 1.2 is to proclaim 01/19/2026 as Doctor. Martin Luther King Jr. Day. And an item 1.3 is a presentation by the Irvine Barclay theater.
Thank you. We do the presentation on the Irvine Barclay theater, we will be back at the dais here, right?
That's correct.
And now, it's my pleasure to step down to the podium for the first two items, beginning with item 1.1.
Mr. Mayor, if I may ask before you do that, if I could ask for a formal motion to approve the two proclamations that you'll be presenting.
Thank you. So moved, I'll move approval of items one point one and one point two. Is there a second?
I'll second.
Seconded by councilmember lu. Would the clerk we have to await public comment.
Correct and we do have one public comment. Apologize for not mentioning that senator.
All right Public comment would be at this time? Correct. All right. Do we have requests for public comment under items one point one and one point two?
We have one request in person.
One request. Why don't you call that person forward at this time?
Thank you, mayor. If I could call forward Jason Garfield. And Mr. Garfield is speaking to presentation item 1.2, which is the Doctor. Martin Luther King Jr. Day proclamation.
Thank you. So, I'd like to express my most fervent support for this proclamation. Doctor. King's legacy is that he appealed, he criticized this country, but appealed to its highest values. And he was able to strike a balance which a lot of people today, even the most well intentioned among us, struggle with, which is criticizing America while also loving it.
And I would like to also thank the pastor who spoke for echoing the words the Declaration of Independence. Whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seek most shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness. So, I
would
be remiss. It is important, it is relevant and legitimate to apply Doctor. King's legacy to the current era. And we've seen political assassinations, unfortunately, over the past year in our country. But the people who are the most thoroughly upholding Doctor.
King's legacy at this moment in the world right now are the people of Iran. And just as Doctor. King was murdered for standing for freedom and standing for those inalienable rights, Hundreds, thousands, we don't know the full death toll and probably will not for a while, are being gunned down in the streets for fighting for those same essential rights. If we wish to fully honor the legacy of Doctor. King, then I believe that to honor that legacy involves acknowledging, paying attention, and carefully watching what's going on all over the world. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor we do have one request item 1.3 which is the barley presentation. I'll leave it up to you if you want to take that public comment now or wait until that item comes forward.
Why don' we wait on that one since we' acted on one point one and one point two let' defer for a moment about 1.3.
Thank you mayor that' all the public comments for eleven and twelve.
I' going to step down to the podium next to the city clerk at which time we' proceed with the presentation of the proclamations. The first proclamation is one that's near and dear to my heart proclaiming 01/13/2026 as Korean American day. This is a proclamation that was born here in the city of Irvine through the leadership and initiative of our former council member and he went on to become mayor and is here with us tonight councilmember suki kang. Suki would you like to come forward at this time. Is Joanne here as well?
Is Joanne here? Oh, she couldn't make. Okay. She was going to. Okay. My daughter called, so she had to go take it. Got it. And the grandkids. I know the routine. Suki Kang introduced himself to me in 2003, actually at the end of 2002, I believe.
Introduced himself to me as a resident of Irvine, Korean American who had immigrated to The United States and wound up in the Los Angeles area and then here in Irvine, where he's been pretty much ever since. And he took the initiative to familiarize me with the fact that 2003 was the one hundred year anniversary, the centennial of the first Koreans migrating to The United States. At that time, to Hawaii, and then later, of course, to the Mainland. And the story ever since has been one of just remarkable struggle and success. And of course, everyone here knows the Korean American community is one of the wonderful, diverse communities that comprise Irvine now.
And I wanted to turn to you, Suki, to say a few words if you like. I also will be calling up, well, why don't I call up others right now as well, representatives from the following organizations to come on up to the podium in this area here. The representatives from the Korean American Federation of Orange County, come on down. Korean American Chamber of Commerce of Orange County, the Korean American Center, California Taekwondo Committee, UCI Korean Alumni Association, IKPA, the Irvine Korean Parent Association representative as well, and the Orange County Korean Cultural Center. If I've left anybody out who regards themselves as important, come on down right now.
With that, I'm going to turn to our former mayor to say a few words. And I think we' going to have a nice picture and I think I may invite my colleagues down to join us for that as well. Suki.
Thank you mayor mayor grin and honorable city council member thank you so much for inviting all of us and for recognizing this momentous occasion truly appreciate the city of Irvine commemorating the korean american day as mayor said twenty three years Standing here today is especially meaningful to me. As mayor mentioned I still remember my very first day meeting with the mayor. I didn't know how to contact but somehow we got connected. And, asked the city council to proclaim the centennial celebration of the Korean American immigration. At that time, I just had one request to be made.
The 103 Korean immigrants to Hawaii landed in Hawaii on 01/13/1903. Who are actually the first group of people who immigrated looking for opportunity, freedom, and a better future. And, Irvine was the first city ever to recognize the Korean American day throughout the country. So, this proclamation meant a great deal to the Korean American community and it symbolized something larger. That Irvine is a city they embrace, values, and celebrates its people and diversity.
Today, one hundred and twenty three years later, Korean Americans play an integral role of the fabric of this nation. We are contributing to America's economy, culture, and democracy while remain deeply grateful for the opportunities this country has provided. On a personal note, who would have imagined that a first generation Korean immigrant would one day have the honor of serving as mayor of Irvine, the first Korean American mayor in a major US city, And, later, could serve our nation as a presidential appointee, regional administrator at USGSA. So, my journey reflects the broader Korean American story, one of perseverance, civic engagement, and giving back to the community. Korean American Day is not only about remembering our past, but also about reaffirming our commitment to the future, Strengthening our communities supporting the next generation and continuing to serve this great city and the great nation.
So with all my heart once again thank you mayor and council members and everyone joining us at this chamber and from home, thank you for honoring the Korean American day today. Thank you.
Thank you so much, Suki. And it's my honor of course to be able to present this proclamation. There are notable whereas' here. The key one being that whereas the centennial committees of Korean immigration and Korean Americans have designated this date January 13 of each year as Korean American day to commemorate the first step of the long and prosperous journey of Korean Americans in The United States. Now therefore the city council of the City of Irvine does hereby proclaim 01/13/2026 as Korean American Day and encourages all residents to recognize and celebrate this special day.
Thank you all stay where you are I' going to invite my council colleagues to come down we' take a picture and we' be famous all right? Thank you. We now move on to our proclamation declaring proclaiming 01/19/2026 as doctor martin Luther king jr day. We are also honored to have representatives from several organizations in attendance this evening to celebrate this special day that honors the extraordinary legacy of Doctor. Martin Luther King Jr.
I would like to now invite forward the representatives from the various organizations to join me at the podium. Please come forward if you' here. Black chamber of commerce of orange county. Hi Bobby come on forward. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, Orange County Branch, NAACP, is there a representative here?
Wonderful. The Thurgood Marshall Bar Association, Fellow lawyer. Thank you. Welcome. The Cross Cultural Center at UCI.
The Christ our Redeemer AME Church. And members who are here in attendance from the city of Irvine diversity equity and inclusion advisory committee Any of you are present please come forward. Welcome. Leon good to see you again. So, it's now my pleasure to present the proclamation. So, who's first among equals? Is this to you, Bobby?
I guess so.
Alright. Well, let me let me have the proclamation here, which I will I will take the liberty of reading in full it's not long but it is very impactful. This is proclaiming doctor Martin Luther King jr day 01/19/2026 whereas 01/19/2026 commemorates the fortieth anniversary of the observance of doctor. Martin Luther King jr. Day a federal holiday which was signed into legislation in 1983 and first observed in 1986 and whereas on 08/23/1994 congress passed the king holiday and service act of 1994 which for the first time combined a national holiday with a national day of service I might add that we observe heartily here in the City of Irvine and whereas doctor king's faith courage and leadership helped the nation move closer to the ideals of what America was founded upon and continues to inspire americans and whereas doctor king's legacy is recognized on this day and americans are encouraged to volunteer in civic and community programs to honor the pioneering civil rights leader now therefore the city council the City of irvine does hereby proclaim 01/19/2026 as doctor Martin Luther King junior day and encourages all residents not just here in Irvine but all residents wherever they might reside to participate in civic community and service projects to commemorate the spirit of this national day of service.
Thank you all.
Thank you, Mary Agrian. Thank you, City Council members. Today is to receive this proclamation, as we've always done, from the City of Irvine. It's truly wonderful, but today is a little bit more significant. This is going to be the fifteenth anniversary this year of the Doctor.
Martin Luther King Memorial being built on the mall in Washington, D. C. It was the first mall built, of course, through my fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated, but the good news about that all that money the 127,000,000 came from Americans it did not come from the federal government when you leave the Auditorium Semen and you see that telephone pole outside 30 foot tall It's like 30 feet well, 10 feet below, 30 foot tall. That's how tall the monument is. 27 feet deep, 27 feet wide.
So, now you get an appearance and a feeling for it. I just want to say that one of the quotes one of the 14 quotes that are around the monument, kind of my famous one, but it's apropos for tonight. Doctor. King says or mentioned that I wished my four kids would grow up to be judged by the, not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character. Tonight, mayor, city council members, Irvine staff, Irvine Police Department, all of you are characters of great content. Thank you.
Before inviting my colleagues down for a photograph, anybody else have something to say? Alright, it's covered? Alright, why don't my colleagues join us for yet one more photograph. And thank you so much for coming down tonight. Thank you again to all the wonderful participants tonight.
I' going to turn to our city clerk for technicality to make everything official that we' done. Please call the roll on the motion that was offered earlier with respect to the proclamations.
Thank you, Mayor. On the motion to approve the proclamations, you made the motion. Council Member Lee seconded. Council Member Carroll.
Yes.
Councilmember Goh is absent from the dais Councilmember Lu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Yes. Councilmember Trusieder.
Yes.
Vice Mayor Mai. Yes. Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries unanimously of the members present.
Thank you that takes us to item 1.3 with the clerk please identify that item by title and subject.
Thank you mayor item 1.3 is a presentation by the irvine barkley theater.
Thank you I understand tonight we have an important leader from the irvine parkley theater joining us great would you like to come forward at this time please. We welcome your presentation this is an annual event most people in town don' know this but the barkley theater that wonderful barkley theater the theater itself is owned by the city of irvine. We annually contribute about $1,500,000 to its operations. The university of california at irvine owns the land on which the theater sits. And, of course, there's a wonderful supportive nonprofit group that raises the money and helps the theater to do all the wonderful things you do for the city of irvine and for so many others.
I think I've given your report haven't I?
Pretty much. It's been lovely thank you did a much better job than probably I will do.
Welcome. Go right ahead.
Good evening Mr. Mayor and members of the city council I' pleased to come before you this evening to offer my annual review of the barkley and its activities during this its thirty fifth anniversary year. My presentation is a bit over seven minutes long and then I will be pleased to take questions following my remarks. As you know the barkley is the result of a unique public private partnership between the city u c irvine and the nonprofit operating company this highly successful partnership has endured for forty years because it has consistently delivered real value to the community the city's public art committee recently recognized this value when they included the barkley as a key element of the city's public arts master plan advocating that the city sustain its support for and maintain its involvement with what it called Irvine's flagship performing arts facility. The barkley has a three part mission to operate and maintain the venue for the community's use provide production marketing and sales support to community organizations who use the theater and put on programs.
Since its opening in 1990, more than 5,000 performances and 1,800 rehearsals have taken place at the Berkeley. This last season, close to 300 activities took place in the Berkeley. And a little known fact is that each season, more than 50% of the activity taking place at the barkley are events created and presented by community schools cultural groups performing arts organizations and local businesses this past season 150 activities 53% of the total were created by local community organizations To support this work the barkley has an annual budget of approximately $8,000,000 71% of which is the operating company's responsibility we raise that through rents ticket sales and our own fundraising original partnership agreement included a ratio of operating support from the city and university which is shown here and two years ago the barkley was encouraged by the city to apply for program funding we did so and we're grateful to receive that support which now equals 5% of our budget You see the city support comes in two forms operating support and programmatic support and I''ll talk about each of those separately starting with community programs and events. The city''s operating support underwrites community uses of the barkley it allows us to offer 50% discounts on all rental to Irvine based nonprofits and 25% discount on all rental rates to all other nonprofit organizations.
Earlier I showed you a chart that showed 50% of the programming and this is the left hand side of the slide and how the funding matches up against that. We charge those organizations what' effectively 35% of our budget and the city' operating support makes up the remaining 15%. I' now like to take a moment to talk about the many community educational, cultural, performing arts events that take place each year at the Berkeley. Educational programs from the community run the gamut from preschool students to high school students to the adults who provide outstanding education to all students of Irvine. Here are some of the many educational organizations that use the barkley each season.
I've mentioned frequently tonight that many local culture organizations use the barkley to present programs of specific interest to their communities. I'm pleased to say that over the course of each season the Berkeley is home to a wide range of programs that fully represent the broad diversity of cultures that call Irvine home. Here are some of the many cultural organizations that use the Berkeley each season. As a performing arts center the Berkeley does of course provide a stage for a wide range of performing arts organizations in music, theater, comedy, and other genres. And then here are some of the many performing arts organizations that use the Berkeley each season.
More specifically in the performing arts, the Berkeley has, because of its large stage generous wings and sprung dance floor established itself as the spiritual home of dance in Orange County being a home for classical dance ethnic dance programs and of course the nutcracker which has been on the Berkeley stage each season for thirty five years Here are some of the many dance companies, competitions, and schools that use the Berkeley each season for their programs. I would like to turn my remarks to the city's programmatic support. As I said before the city's programming support makes possible these four programs and I will now speak about each of them in turn. Community use days twelve days each year are reserved by the city and they are provided rent free to community organizations designated by the city through an application process overseen by the community and library services department. The community access ticket program each year makes up to 2,000 complimentary tickets available to audiences with limited discretionary means these are typically distributed through partner organizations with constituencies who match the program's goals.
Our most mature program is the partnership with the Vetix Foundation because of the city's generous support we've been able to offer 6,300 complimentary tickets to veterans active service members first responders and their families. One of the best parts of this program is that these tickets get used at a 98 rate this is unusual because industry use rates for complimentary tickets are generally under 5%. We know these folks truly appreciate the opportunity they are given because they attend in such large numbers. We and they are truly grateful for the city's support in making this valuable program possible. The final program supported by the city is the barkley's family series coming out of Covet the barkley dropped family programming from its content because the cost of the program simply couldn't be covered by family friendly ticket prices Audience surveys continually told us the community wanted us to bring back family programming so we included this as part of our program funding proposal to the city.
The agreement was for us to put up two titles a year. Last year we were able to put up three with no additional cost to city and sold the series out because of that success this year we expanded to four titles again at no additional cost to the city and here are the three programs in the series remaining for this year and tickets can be purchased at www.thebarkeley.org. I've so far talked a great deal about funding and programs but not much about audiences and so I'd like to take a moment to talk about that subject. Since returning to live in person performances following COVID, 430,000 tickets have been sold to programs at the barley which is a remarkable number when you consider we're a seven fifty seat venue more than 53,000 households have purchased those tickets from forty nine fifty states the biggest portion of our audience is obviously Orange County and 'm going to skip here because I'm getting ahead of myself so looking the future of Barclays work to be responsive to community input the number one item we hear about is insufficient restrooms we hear about a need for breakout rooms a second performance space on-site catering and finally we know there simply aren't enough rehearsal spaces in the community one emerging idea is to retain the current auditorium and backstage areas and provide all the new support and amenities in the structure that would wrap around the current auditorium working with Irvine based architectural firm l p a the board and staff at the barkeley along with other community stakeholders have developed a concept of one way the new structure might look these are some of the current project renderings and want you to know that the barkley board of directors and staff are very excited about the many possibilities for expanded service of the community represented by this project.
With that I''ll conclude my remarks thank you again for the opportunity to address you this evening and I'' pleased to answer any questions you may have.
Thank you by the way since you didn' introduce yourself fully this is for those who have not met Craig before Craig Springer president of the Irvine Barclay theater, and a delight to work with. Let me ask my colleagues if they have any questions or comments. This would be the appropriate time. I don't see any requests so let me just jump in with one or two things. First of all, these future plans are very, very exciting.
I think I want to just take a moment to note that obviously the theater was, as so many other facilities and programs, was under tremendous pressure during the covet pandemic did just an amazing job in adapting. I followed it very closely.
Thank you.
And you come out of all of that healthy financially. I love your dynamic pricing system. The fact that the city added I think it was half $1,000,000 a year with the express hope belief that those dollars would help generate new generations of audiences, particularly among those for whom the pricing of theater tickets was just beyond their means. And that the Barclay has followed through on that is, for me, a source of real satisfaction. And I think it helps ensure just remarkable success going forward.
I just wanted to weigh in with those remarks. Anybody else have anything? No? Yes, Council Member Liu. Oh, there we are. Go ahead.
So I wanted to say that when I first moved to Irvine, well, almost twenty one years ago now, people were saying oh my gosh you are moving to a cultural desert but we' not. We have barclay here and thank you for providing the opportunity to show my kids nutcracker and classical music, ballet, and other culture activities so I really appreciate your presence here thank you.
My pleasure we' always grateful for the support of the city and we love the partnership and look forward to continue for many years.
Thank you councilmember martinez franco.
Thank you I wanted to thank you personally as a board member of the barkley theater it has been a couple of times that I've been there. It's just amazing. I never imagined all the behind the scenes that goes towards the production of a play and all the efforts that you've been doing in order to keep this play successful. I just wanted to congratulate you for also opening for diverse type of events. I know that I enjoy the Dia de los Muertos.
It's one of my favorite ones. It's open to the public and free for everybody. So I think doing those kind of things for the community, it's great. Also thank you so much for taking the input from the city on the new design for renovations.
I see no further request. Let me just say one more thing. I love your advertising your TV advertising. This
is our vice president of marketing chris adrians he is a critical part of our success and I know we' been successful because almost everywhere I go now someone will say to me I cannot get the jingle out of my head.
United debarker. United debarker. Thank you so much for all you do. Thanks for the presentation tonight. Think we do have any requests from citizens to be heard on this item?
Thank you mayor we do have one from Doug Elliot.
I see Mr. Elliot approaching the podium now welcome.
Thank you mayor and happy new year to all of you. I' Doug Elliot the community and library services commissioner speaking only for myself. We' heard three very worthy presentations tonight but I just wanted to add some comments on this one because I' such a fan of the barley. When I joined the commission a couple of years ago I was asked some questions for a brief bio that I think was councilmember trecedar's newsletter and one of the questions was what are your favorite places to go in Irvine and I said the barley without hesitation and two years later I'll stand by that answer I have just had so many great experiences seeing world class performances in this wonderful intimate jewel box of a facility. Every seat is a good one here right on top of the action and it' just wonderful.
I wanted to comment in particular on some of the things that I' enjoyed about the barkley one is the emphasis on jazz it' become really a dynamic leader in the Orange County jazz scene and especially with the creation of the barkley jazz and beyond orchestra which I think I' heard all of their performances and want to keep going to those are terrific they' all local musicians they do an outstanding job. The other thing that I just discovered for the first time I say discovered I knew about it but I hadn' been to one of these they do live screenings of performances of stage shows from London. Sunday was a showing of doctor strange love production from the noll coward theater. It was terrific it got rave reviews in London and it was just so great to pay for basically the price of a movie or a little bit more maybe and see this stage presentation technologically perfect beamed from London and be able to join it also. I just can' say enough about the barkley I'm excited by these plans for the future and anxious to see them come about thank you.
Thank you Mr. Elliott for your service on the community services commission. With that I think let' make this completely official with a motion to receive and file the annual report.
Happy to do that mayor. Also move.
Is there a second? Second.
Seconded by Vice Mayor Mai. Will the clerk please call the roll.
Councilmember go. Yes. Councilmember Liu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Yes. Councilmember Trecedor.
Yes.
Vice Mayor Mai. Yes. Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries six to zero of the members present. Thank you again, Greg.
All right. That allows us to move on now to the next item on the agenda which is public comments on non agendized items. This is the opportunity for residents and others to briefly comment on items that are not on the official agenda for this evening, but are one way or another within our subject matter jurisdiction. This is part of our state and local commitment to free speech and opportunities to participate civically as to matters on the agenda and in this case not on the agenda. With that do we have any requests to be heard?
Mr. Peterson.
Thank you mayor. We have 15 requests to speak. 12 are in person, three on zoom.
Wow, 15. All right. So let's limit those to no more than two minutes and let's close the queue at this point, all right? With that, please call on the first public commenter. Thank you, mayor. If I
could call forward Susan Sayer, Ali Benava, Alan Meyerson, Caitlin Everett, and Rima N. And we'll start with Susan Sayer.
Welcome, Ms. Sayer. You have two minutes.
Good afternoon my name is Susan Sayer and I' a longtime Irvine resident and I' a senior who will someday rely on public transportation. Irvine is undergoing a huge residential tourism hospital and business related growth are already clogged streets will surely undergo a substantial increase in residential tourism and employee traffic To be successful irvine connect needs to meet the growing demand for public transportation by all these groups and the needs of the ridership we not only need increased number of public transportation routes which take us where we want to go we also need service hours that accommodate all employee work shifts and access to entertainment and medical treatment venues and hospitality venues and hotels. We also need improved public transportation infrastructure such as bus routes located on major streets such as Jamboree Culver Alton Campus Jeffrey Sand Canyon where commercial businesses schools and universities hospitals and medical offices and senior community facilities are located We need dedicated public transportation lanes without which buses will suffer traffic related delays and be unable to meet a published and relied upon transportation schedules. Bus stop curb pull outs are needed which do not block traffic or bicycle lanes pedestrian bridges that cross major thoroughfare intersections near commercial and business venues are needed bus stops and park and ride lots should be located at the Irvine Train Station and at freeway on ramps and exits.
Thank
you miss chair and welcome sir.
Mr. Mayor and members of council good evening my name is a resident of Irvine for twenty one years I want to begin by acknowledging that this dais does not take political positions and focuses on our city's matters, and I respect that role. So I'm speaking today not on behalf of the council, but in my capacity as president of IPA, one of the city of Irvine's unions. And as a proud Irvine resident and a proud Iranian American, on behalf of our Iranian members, many of whom have family, friends, and loved ones living under constant fear. As a union and a community grounded in shared values, we strongly condemn the Iranian regime's brutal and savage attacks against its own people.
Peaceful protesters, students, women, workers, and children have been met with gunshots, violence, mass arrests, torture, and even execute execution for simple acts of demanding basic human rights and dignity. This is not about partisan politics or foreign policy. This is about human rights. It's about standing against the killing and repression of civilians who whose only demand is freedom. For Iranian Americans, this pain is deeply personal.
Silence can feel like abandonment. Speaking out, especially from democratic institutions matters. It tells victims they are seen, and it tells oppressors that the world is watching. On behalf of our Iranian members, we stand in solidarity with people of Iran and condemn the violence inflicted upon them by their own government. Thank you for allowing me to speak,
Thank you for
all that you do for our city. Far end about Iran.
Thank you very much for your
comments. Alan Meyerson.
Welcome.
Good evening councilmembers. Meyerson. Tonight, the Doctor. King presentation touched me. People should be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Truthfulness, honesty, integrity. When I think about those things and I think about politicians, I don't see a whole lot of that. I'm not necessarily speaking about any of you up there, but just in general, truthfulness, honesty, integrity. What does that mean to me? To me that means when somebody runs a campaign and they promise to vote certain ways on certain subjects and then they follow through and do not vote the way they said they were going to vote, that's dishonest.
I have seen that happen on the dais for probably the last ten or twelve years. People running campaigns saying they were going to vote a certain way on a certain subject and then when they got elected turned around and voted just the opposite that they said they were going to vote. That's dishonest. That's not integrity. And, it's kind of a disappointment to me.
It's kind of shameful. I would hope I'm watching the football playoffs and I was thinking about football teams and the coaches on football teams and how they get the teams to work altogether. Because the only way they're going to win is if they work altogether. They don't win if they split four to three or five to two or three to four, they don't win anything. You guys have to work together to get things accomplished in the city.
Don't turn into an events center where you're just doing fourth of July celebrations and spending a lot of money on that stuff. Work together to get real things accomplished. There' a lot of things that need to be done and there' a lot of money that needs to be spent. I don' really know where it' going to come from, but the only way it' going to happen and that' going to get accomplished is if you all work together. So think about it. Do it. Do the right thing for the city.
Thank you. Kaitlyn Everett. Welcome.
Good evening. My name is Caitlin Everett and I'm 17 years old. As vice president of the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation's Take Steps Youth Leadership Committee, I advocate for those affected by inflammatory bowel disease. Today I'm presenting the importance of IBD awareness and how we can reduce the stigma surrounding this invisible illness. Inflammatory bowel disease, or IBD, is a chronic autoimmune condition causing inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract.
It causes pain, fatigue, and malnutrition, yet there is still no cure. This condition affects students, working professionals, parents, and seniors right here in our community. Today, I'm respectfully requesting a proclamation for the city of Irvine to recognize World IBD Day on May 19, aiming to raise awareness and decrease the stigma surrounding this disease. I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in 2019 at only 10 years old. After my diagnosis, I learned that living with IBD was more than finding effective treatments to manage my I encountered barriers at school when my five zero four accommodations were often dismissed by my teachers.
At the same time, the stigma surrounding digestive issues made it difficult to speak openly with my family and friends, and I began to feel isolated from my peers. Last year, I had the opportunity of being a member of the Take Steps Youth Leadership Committee, And now, as Vice President in my second year, I am proud to give back to the community that supported me through chronic illness. I empower others to find strength in their IBD, rather than feel limited or defined by it. My story is just one of millions of Americans living with this invisible illness, including many here in Irvine. By recognizing World IBD Day on May 19, the City of Irvine can take an important and impactful step towards increasing awareness reducing stigma and affirming that people with IBD in this community are seen supported and never alone.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Thank you for your statement. Let me my wife' a pediatric gastroenterologist so this hits home and your request that there be a proclamation or the case of our city we can certainly issue an appropriate certificate. Would you be in touch with the city clerk' office in that regard we have a lot of time between now and May and maybe we can organize a little something for this particular year.
Thank you.
Thank you right here.
Rema and if I could also call forward Jason Garfield Christina Young, Joanne Slobodian, Eileen McCarthy, Vicki Johnson, Mike Rao, and Steve Berger. Welcome.
Good evening. Mayor Agron, Vice Mayor Mike, council members Mike Carroll, Martinez Franco, Lou Goh, and Rosita. My name is Rima Nasashibi. I'm founder and president of Global Hope three sixty five, a five zero one c three nonprofit to end harmful practices towards women and girls such as child marriage, human trafficking, and other forms of gender based violence. Yesterday during human trafficking awareness month, global hope three sixty five was honored by the city of Irvine at a recognition ceremony held right here in the council chambers.
It's very important that it was held during this month because as you know the Orange County Human Trafficking Task Force, their latest report indicated that the percentage of minor to the total number of victims of human trafficking has risen from thirty six percent to fifty percent due to sextortion. And so, we were surrounded yesterday by board members, interns, donors, and community supporters, Peggy Wong, mayor Pro Tem from the city of Yorba Linda, a longtime advisor and supporter of Global Hope three sixty five. We were deeply honored to have our work in human trafficking prevention recognized in a ceremony yesterday led by James May, the vice mayor of Irvine. We are grateful for their leadership and presence of Michael Kent, chief of police, William Goh, Melinda Lou, and Betty Martinez Franco council members. This recognition reflects more than an award.
It's a powerful example of local leadership. I'll also like to extend our thanks to all the City of Irvine staff, including Nicole Rogers, whose professionalism, coordination, and behind the scenes work led and made this event possible. Thank you so much for the award.
And thank you for all that you do. Thank you very much. Jason? Welcome.
Thank you.
So, I would like to propose that Irvine look into creating a paramedic subscription program. And, I know that sounds a little off the wall, but it's actually something that's been very successfully implemented by a number of other big cities. Santa Ana, for instance, I didn't know about this until a friend told me, but if you live in Santa Ana, you have the option of paying $73 a year to the city, totally optional, no one's forced into it. And if you pay that, then if you call an ambulance, it's free. Medical bills ruin people.
Most Americans don't have $1,000 saved up for an emergency expense, and ambulances can run well in excess of that. I had a serious medical emergency last year, and even in very dire straits, I was afraid to call 911 because I knew what it would cost me. And I'm one of the lucky ones. I have insurance. There's people who don't or who have insufficient insurance.
And they get screwed far worse. So I don't understand why have why we get billed for ambulances at all. There's no other emergency service that does that. The police don't bill you for a rescue. So, if we implement this program in Irvine, I think it could help a lot of residents, including many of our least fortunate and if Santa Ana could do it and Fullerton could do it then I' pretty sure irvine can figure it out too.
Thank you. If you would make some information available if you have it regarding the subscription program elsewhere please I' like to take a look at it and sure my colleagues would as well.
Thank you.
Thank you. Christina.
Welcome. Thank you.
Good evening honorable mayor, council members, and city staff. My name is Christina Young, and I'm speaking today on behalf of many parents from Brightwood elementary school in Northwood. Brightwood families that are present, would you please stand? And Irvine Girl Scouts, please stand. These families represent hundreds of children whose emotional safety matters deeply to all of us.
Thank you you may be seated. Thank you for your leadership in making Irvine a city that does not look away from bullying. Your recent anti bullying legislation and the anti bullying expo by vice mayor James my last October sent a clear message Irvine takes emotional safety of children seriously. More than 150 bribe parents have signed a petition asking for one thing a proven structured school wide bully prevention program. We're not reacting to a single incident.
We're responding to patterns family quietly carry home, anxiety, fear, and feeling unsafe at school. That is why our community is requesting the bullying prevention program or o b p p. O b p p is the gold standard of bullying prevention backed by forty years of research with schools reporting up to 50% reduction in bullying incidents. It has been adopted by 1,000 schools nationwide including California districts such as Santa Monica, Malibu, and Palos Verdes. Prince of hernandez of brightwell elementary has reviewed this program and asked us to explore whether the city of Irvine could help sponsor a pilot program at brightwell elementary a pilot will allow the city to track outcomes collect data and create a scalable model for other interested Irvine schools
Thank you. Your time is up. Why don't you just take ten seconds to finish up, if you would.
Sure. So tonight, we respectfully ask the city of irvine to help sponsor proven bully prevention program backed by statistics and behalf of bribe families thank you for your leadership and your commitment to make Irvine a place where every child feels safe and supported.
And thank you for your comments. Appreciate it. Thank you. Joanne Slobodian. Welcome.
Thank you so much.
Hi, everyone. I'm going to begin with my ask first. If the council' intent is to protect Oak Creek the path forward is simple amend the offer so it provides permanent open space protection and formally accept it. If those amendments do not go through then at the very least accept the offer so an easement exists. An easement protects the city if the irvine company ever seeks to build because undoing an easement and the commitments tied to it is not something any council should want to do.
I came here tonight expecting to thank you all but after reading the offer I realize this is another bait and switch is presented as protection but legally it changes absolutely nothing what was recorded is not an easement is an irrevocable offer of an easement and recording it without acceptance creates no enforceable protection most residents don't realize that that that that and wonder whether I wonder whether all council members were made aware of this deception because this was not agendized for acceptance the way real easements routinely are the offer also delays acceptance by referencing a vague 75 threshold in planning area 12 this language does not clearly say whether it applies for past or future development leaving perfect protection in limbo this offer is also not the easement required under 80 eight-one that resolution required a permanent open space easement that runs with the land what has been offered instead is use based protection tied only to operation of a golf course if that use ends as the irvine company has already initiated the protection ends permanent protection should never depend on temporary use a recorded but unaccepted offer protects nothing Oak Creek is no more protected today than it was before the offer existed thank you so much
Thank you for your comments. Eileen? Welcome.
Yeah. Good evening mayor and city council members. I'm here also to speak about the need to preserve the land at the Oak Creek Golf Course. An offer of an easement was made by the irvine company to the city of Irvine the offer does not satisfy the requirements of 80 eight-one the offer is based on land use rather than the land itself which means once the golf course goes away the land will not be protected and the irvine company can build on it. I' asking the mayor and the city council to direct city attorney Jeff Melching to amend the offer so it protects the land at Oak Creek Golf Course forever.
Then I ask the city to accept the offer so it becomes a proper easement. Thank you all.
Thank you for your comments. Thank you, Johnson. Welcome.
Good evening. I have a handout that's being distributed. Oh, happy New Year. Thank you for serving on the council. Thank you for proclaiming January 9 as doctor Martin Luther King junior day.
And let us bear in mind that the arc of justice is bent through collective effort, moral courage, and sustained activism. Protect our democracy. I'm here to tell you today, as of January 1, OCPA's basic choice is now more expensive than Southern California Edison. Yesterday at the board meeting, the OCPA board abandoned the basic choice 3% discount. So Irvine businesses and residents are now paying more for basic choice than they would through OCPA than they would through SCE.
This foundational affordable option is no longer OCPA's policy. And some of this is detailed in the handout. In October 2025, as one of the city council members pointed out, OCPA spiked its rates 13%. It was unprecedented. It was unnecessary.
Now OCPA will use this spiked 13% rate hike for all of 2026. In contrast, SCE just lowered their rates on January 1 3%. So I really wonder, you know, the board from Irvine that serves on the OCPA board, should they serve Irvine or should they serve OCPA in doing this kind of sort of a tax? Nowhere wants this paid more than SCE now for the lowest basic choice rate. So on this handout I have SCE's announcement and the OCPA board item just approved unanimously yesterday to abandon its former rate policies of having an affordable option.
Please look into it and thank you very much
thank you for your comments mike welcome sir
thank you thank you council members My name is Mike. I'm a resident of Laguna Woods, targeted by OCPA. Fended away once before, but again targeted. Yesterday's OCPA board meeting eliminated the guaranteed 3% savings at Basic Choice, and they agreed to peg the price at a fixed rate for all customers for 2026. Right now, all of Irvine is paying OCPA more than they would to SCE Edison.
Here's a question for you. Do the OCPA board members on your city council have a fiduciary duty to protect the interests of OCPA that is superior to their fiduciary duty to protect the business and residential rate payers of Irvine. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments. Steve Berger. Welcome sir.
Good evening council members my name is steve berger I've been a resident and voter in the city of Irvine since 1978. I' proud to be a resident and voter in Irvine. Irvine is a great city. Raised my two children here and I think it' a marvelous city. I apologize if my information is incorrect but I was under the impression that a proposal was recently circulated about the looming problem of spent nuclear fuel at San Onofre.
And, if there is a problem with that spent fuel that is not resolved, that could mean the end of life as we know it here in Irvine and in all of Orange County. And, my understanding is correct, I hope it's correct, but if it's not, I apologize to the council. My understanding is that proposal to initiate a study and find out the extent of any problem was rejected by this council. Irvine should be a leader not a follower. And, if we have a problem with the spent nuclear fuel at San Onofre, we ought to find out about it sooner rather than later.
And, we should initiate an inquiry and we should find out whether we have a problem if so what the extent of the problem is and if so whether there are any solutions. All of Irvine and all of Orange County really depends on that if we have a problem and this council should lead not follow. Thank you very much.
Thank you for your comments.
Our next speaker is Eric Nashanian. Mr. Nashanian you may unmute your mic.
Thank you, council members, Mayor Mayor Agron. Good evening. Happy New Year. On more than one occasion, I inquired upon the city about oversight compliance of the Irvine Recovery Plan grant program. I have some information for everybody.
At a minimum, almost $500,000 or 10% of the money allocated to the Irvine Recovery Plan grant program was distributed to CORCDC, the Church of Redeemer Community Development Corporation and the NAACP OC Branch. When neither the COR CDC or the NAACP were qualified to solicit charitable assets or accept grants because of their suspended status with the Secretary of State or their suspended or delinquent status with the Attorney General's Charitable Organizations Division or both. The NAACP was suspended with the Secretary of State from 2021 to late twenty twenty five and delinquent with the AG Charities Office over the same period, but Irvine awarded their OC branch $172,000 in IRP grant money on 11/22/2022. The CRRCDC, one of Vericon's current employers, was suspended with the AG Charities Department from 2018 to January 2025 and then revoked until late twenty twenty five. But Irvine awarded then $255,000 the second largest grant and IRP grant money on 11/22/2022.
There's more. Two of the commissioners on the subcommittee for the Irvine Recovery Plant Advisory Committee were Rebecca Thomas, the President of the Thurgood Marshall Bar Association and Amilcar Aaron, who's an NAAC operative. These two members were also on the inaugural DEI Committee as Chair and Vice Chair. But there's even more. The NAACP and the CDC were required to get business licenses here in the city of Irvine as a term of the money. They never did.
Thank you. Your time is up. Our next speaker is Michelle Johnson. Ms. Johnson, you may unmute your mic.
Good evening, mayor and council members. I would like to provide an important update on the Orange County Power Authority. Yesterday, the Board of Directors unanimously approved their 2026 rate design, which locked in their rate increase of 13 from last October, abandoning their 3% discount to Southern California Edison. Their CFO revealed that OCPA rates will be 12% to 16% higher than Edison. What does this mean for the average Irvine resident?
It means that 98,000 Irvine households will be paying an average of $240 more a year to stay in OCPA versus Edison. In 2026, Irvine residents will be collectively paying OCPA $23,500,000 more in electricity costs when many families here are struggling with affordability. The city of Irvine's municipal rate comparison was not provided, so it's unknown how much more the city will be paying for electricity from our taxpayer dollars, not to mention the effect on all our small businesses in the city. The city manager should immediately request this information from OCPA. Financially, OCPA losses are accelerating.
The first three months of the current fiscal year, OCPA incurred an operating loss of $15,000,000 Reserves are now at $42,000,000 and declining. They will not meet their forecast of $76,000,000 The City Council should immediately seek to inform all of our residents of this rate increase and provide the information to opt back to SCE. We should also ask for a current rate comparison from Edison so we know the full budget impact on the city of the OCPA rate increase. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Harvey Liss. Harvey, you may unmute your mic. Hello, Harvey. Can you hear us? Our next speaker is IR. You may unmute your mic. Hi, Ari. Can you hear us?
Hello?
Yes. We can hear you. Hi.
Hi. Please press the media or play the media. Thank you.
My existence as a Korean and understanding of past, present, and what's to come, it is impossible not to align with the fight for a free and liberated Palestine. Now we have so many parallels originating from colonialism's consequences. A corrupt Southern Korean administration that has fallen in sync with Western colonial powers against the well-being and peace of its own people. False narratives are spread to feed capitalism, imperialism, and colonialism. There are sanctions against Northern Korea that prevent food, aid, medical supplies, and life sustaining access.
Meanwhile, Koreans lived through decades of Japanese colonial occupation, displacement, and ethnic cleansing. Then our land was carved up mainly by the US empire, a colonial country that made decisions about our land and our people for its own benefit. Still divided, by the way. We were forced to lose our homelands forever, meaning for a lot of us, we would never be able to reunite with family and home again. We continue to be occupied today and are surrounded by one of the largest forces of Western militarism that deeply profits from keeping the peninsula divided. So as a Korean who wants a free Korea and wants a Korea free from colonial manipulation, from life evaporating sanctions, from militarism, see how our struggles Koreans are aligned with the struggles of Palestinians. So, of course, of course, I fight also for a free and liberated Palestine. When we say liberation, it means liberation from imperialism and colonialism around the world. May all of us fight for liberation until everyone is free.
In 1910, US officials legitimized Japan's colonization of Korea with the Tasman Surah Agreement just as the British sentenced the Palestinians to occupation and the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Today, in US backed South Korea, monopoly capitalists are profiting directly from Zionism. Hyundai sells excavators to the Zionist entity, which are then used to destroy Palestinians' homes and evict them from their land.
That you care about is might not realize it, but an issue that you care about is probably a lot closer connected to Palestine than you might think. Like, if you care about ICE agents who are abducting people all around the country, you should know that many of those agents are likely trained by Israel in exchange programs along with cops and FBI agents. Or if you're concerned about our earth burning out from climate change. You should know that in the first few months of the genocide, Israel's bombs released more carbon than 26
Mister mayor, if I may try Harvey Liss once more. It looks like he was having technical difficulties. Thank you. Harvey, you may unmute your mic.
Hi. Thank you. I was called away by the need of a sudden urgency. In any case, I'm Harvey Liss, a resident of Irvine since 1976 and a registered professional civil engineer. I'm speaking of the refusal of the council majority at the council meeting on December 9 to approve mayor Egren's proposal to establish a multidisciplinary team to develop a local storage plant for the radioactive spent nuclear fuel currently being stored on the beach at the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station.
It's exposed to any sort of disaster, environmental, or attack by a grenade or a bomb dropped from a drone, flown from a passing boat, even from a passing vehicle on the I 5. Each of the 153 canisters, many partly buried there, contains as much radioactive nuclear fuel as the entire Chernobyl release. A catastrophic release of the contents of even one canister, would render much of Southern California uninhabitable, risking the lives and livelihoods of millions. With all of the organizations attempting to address this problem, there has really been no progress to date. Mayor Egren's plan, which has actually taken from the successful repackaging and fortified storage of spent nuclear fuel being done in Switzerland, this is not unknown territory.
It seems incredible that council member Mai would refuse to help potentially save the lives and the livelihoods of millions of Southern Californians because he doesn't want to get involved in any project outside Irvine, and I'm paraphrasing. Remember that it was the city of Irvine under mayor Egren that Irvine in 1989 was the first city to ban the production use of CFCs, a ban that went worldwide and is indeed saving the world as the hole in the ozone layer has been shrinking since the ban. As far as council member Tresedo proposing the plan, I don't have to say anything more. We know. Thank you. Bye.
And that is all Mr. Mayor.
Thank you. That concludes our public comments for non agendized items allowing us to turn to the city manager's report.
Thank you mayor city council just three quick items tonight first I'd like to provide you with a brief update regarding Lunar New Year efforts in the city. Excuse me. Following direction provided by the council in December, staff have continued to work with Asian American History Museum and South Coast Chinese Cultural Center to plan our Lunar New Year celebration at the Great Park. I'm happy to report that the event is scheduled for Saturday, February 7, featuring a parade along the Great Park timeline at 11AM, followed by a festival at the Great Park Live at Noon. The city is supporting the event through waived rental fees and staff coordination.
Second item, happy to update or report out that we've won award from something that's close to me, which is the American Public Works Association. Periodically, we win awards, and we've won one this year. And Luis Estevez is gonna provide just a real brief update on what that award is.
Thank you, mister Crumby. Good evening, mister mayor and members of the city council. Luis Estevez, director of public works and sustainability. As Mr. Kremlin, we recently received an award from the American Public Works Association in the Southern California region.
I don't see it coming up here, unfortunately. This was for the Sweet Shade project, Universal Playground project. Here we go. And this project was recognized by the APWA SoCal division on December 9. And it was selected from over 200 nominations that were submitted for their annual best in category project of the year.
And so the team was really excited about this award and the recognition, Particularly very proud about this project to begin with, but to also be recognized by their peers for delivering such a fantastic project to the community. The project was completed back in November 2024, and it does include a lot of great features for children for all abilities to be able to play together, a lot of new ADA compliant parking as well, a new restroom facility, and a new bank shop sports court that gets a lot of use and is really popular with the community. So the team was very proud of this project and very proud to be recognized by their peers for this effort, and they were really excited to share this award with you and the community.
Thank you very much.
Well, thank you. And, come back to you but Mr. City manager in a moment but sweet shade park that project is the playground the entire park there. It is a jam and everybody involved should be very, very, very proud. Thank you. Forgive me for interrupting your report.
I was just going to say thank you to your leadership for that project. Thank you to all the staff from Public Works and the Community Services Department that worked to deliver this great project. And then last thing in my report tonight is just a reoccurring update on immigration. Tonight, our police chief Kent is going to provide a brief update.
Thank you, City Manager Crombie. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. There have been no ICE or Border Patrol activities in the City Of Irvine since our last council meeting on December 9. I do want to note that we are very closely monitoring what is happening in the state of Minnesota and other parts of the country as well to see if there would be any potential impacts to the city of Irvine. But as of today, there have been no impacts. That concludes my presentation.
Thank you. Think we will be at a subsequent council meeting coming back with some policies that proactively address this subject either at the meeting of the twenty sixth or twenty seventh or in February. Thank you chief for keeping us all advised.
Thank you mayor.
That takes care of the city manager's report. We move now onto announcements, committee reports, council reports. This is a chance for those of us here at the dais to report on activities that we' been engaged in. It is an opportunity to make brief reports allowing basically three minutes each. And with that, I'll turn first to Councilmember Liu.
Thank you mayor. Happy new year. I'm excited to share with you all of the recent work my office and I have been doing in the community. On January 8, I delivered my first annual state of the district, which showcased the actions and accomplishments my office has taken this year in District 1 in Irvine. Thank you to everyone who attended. Next, please. Yesterday, our office hosted our second blood drive with the American Red Cross at the Harvard Community Center. We received over 20 donations, saving over 60 lives. Thank you to everyone who donated and participated. We'll have our next one in April.
Next one. On Saturday, December 20, during an older adults event at the Lakeview Senior Center, a power outage occurred, and unfortunately, there was no generators available, leaving the facility without lighting. We are now working with the city staff to ensure backup generators are available at our community centers should this happen again, and I want to thank our city manager and staff and public works department and also community services department for responding quickly and assessing so the program could continue to keep our seniors safe. Our 2025 annual report is now live to learn more about the work we' been doing across Irvine this year please scan the qr code provided on the screen or visit melyndalouirvine.com it' been a pleasure serving the community in 2025 and I look forward to an incredible 2026 for our city. I also want to reiterate the fact that here in Irvine we don' tolerate any hatred and I hope to provide make sure that our commitment to ensure everyone feels safe in the city and my office is always here to assist you so please do not hesitate to reach out regarding any questions concerns or ideas you have thank you.
Thank you, Councilmember Liu, Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Thank you. Before I start my announcements, I want to address what happened in Portland and Minneapolis. It was a scary situation and heartbreaking. And I know it has caused real fear and tension for many people. When it's the incidents involving federal immigration enforcement turn turn violent, it deeply affect our communities and shakes trust.
That is not acceptable. I want our urban community to know that we are aware, we care, and we are paying attention of what has happened nationally. And note, our police department continues to protect our community. My prayers are with everyone affected and with those who are feeling anxious or vulnerable during this time. Thank you.
And now with my announcements. Can you go to the next slide? Our office joined Vice Mayor Mai and community leaders in late December to deliver hundreds of jackets and sweaters to urban farm workers who harvest strawberries for our communities. Also, Mayor Agram encouraged his community to donate jackets for the farmers. It was an honor to support the people who helped feed our community.
And I'm grateful to the partners who made this possible. Next slide. Recently, Spectrum News interviewed me about dating their article is about teen dating violence. And I was honored to share my story as a survivor survivor in the recent coverage. I look forward to continue this work as Irvine hosts its first ever women's convention this March, And this event will provide resources, conversation, and support with the goal to help women feel informed, safe, and empowered.
Next slide. I recently meet met acting fire chief t j j mcovern of of the Orange County Fire Authority. Chief mcovern has dedicated decades to public safety and took on this new role earlier this month. I am proud to work with leaders who share our commitment to keeping Irvine and Orange County safe and resilient. Next slide.
As an OCFA board member, I also had the honor of attending the Canine Timber Press Conference this morning. The event recognized OCFA's new Accelerant Detection Canine, which is one of only four of its kind in the state. Next slide. And please stay connected if you want to learn about the latest in District 5 and the city of Irvine. Thank you so much.
Thank you councilmember martinis franco councilmember go.
Thank you mayor good evening and happy new year to everyone. Over the holiday break we have a few of our councilmember offices participate in the run for clause five ks at the Great Park District two proceeds from the race benefited many charities including south county outreach the american cancer society and more it was a great way to end the year and celebrate the holidays. There are a couple more other races coming up in the Great Park I would like to challenge everyone to sign up for first is the fourth annual anohyne ducks five ks on February 8 all proceeds will benefit anohyne ducks foundation mission of producing positive change for children and families throughout Southern California by providing educational opportunities broadening access to the sport of hockey and addressing the health and wellness needs of the community. Registration ends January 9 you can register for the five ks by scanning the qr code displayed on your screen. Next slide please.
The next race I challenge you all to sign up for is the upcoming irvine dream run on May 9 proceeds from the race go directly to the charitable sunstone community fund to support startups and entrepreneurship in Irvine. Registration prices will increase on January 28 so don' wait you can register for the five ks or three ks by scanning the qr code displayed on the screen. You all.
Thank you councilmember goe vice mayor James why.
Thank you mayor can we bring up the slide.
Apologies vice mayor we' working on it.
If we have a technical delay I could go ahead with announcements and we could come back to the vice mayor would that be acceptable?
Absolutely.
There are a few announcements of citywide import that I' been asked to read into the record here. We have January arts events we' starting this new year with a compelling lineup of free art exhibitions and activities and opening reception for the new art at city hall exhibition which is entitled hope center for the arts be seen will be held this Thursday January 15 from two to 4PM and will feature a performance by the High Hopes Band, an ensemble of musicians from the Hope community. This is a community empowering adults with disabilities through the power of the arts. The Great Park Gallery will debut a new layout designed to highlight three distinct solo shows for the first time. This dynamic installation of exhibits showcases a range of painting practices that span embroidery, abstraction, and comic strip storytelling.
The opening reception for the Great Park Gallery exhibitions is Sunday, January 25, from one to 3PM. During this time, guests can also enjoy a free art activity at the Great Park Studio and live music during the Jazz in the Palm Court performance. Admission and parking for all of these events at the Great Park are free. Learn more about these exciting art exhibitions and activities at artsinirvine.org. It' tax season again.
Free tax preparation services are made available in partnership between the city of irvine with the county of orange united way we' offering free tax preparation services from February 3 through April 7 at harvard community center. Taxpayers who live, work, or attend school in Irvine and earned less than $69,000 in 2025 are eligible to receive help filing their taxes from IRS trained and certified volunteers. Additional assistance is available in applying for tax credits including the state and federal earned income tax credits. Schedule an appointment by calling 211 online appointment scheduling will be available take us down at ocfreetaxprep.com. That's ocfreetaxprep.com.
Will This be starting making these appointments in late January. So I presume we will be making this announcement yet again. Also, don't hesitate to visit cityofirvine.org/freetaxfiling or ocfreetaxprep.com for more information. How are we doing on the other announcements?
It's ready to go. All right.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Vice Mayor Mai, go right ahead.
Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to talk about the Youth Leadership Conference and Policy Brief Competition that we have on January 24. It will be happening here in the chambers. It's to encourage critical thinking and independent thought with the youth. Oftentimes our youth are told what to do, not how to think, and one of the goals of this is to prepare them for the real world leadership and not social media sound bites.
So The students will be working together in groups to create a policy brief and present it to myself and a panel of judges. Winners will be officially recognized and have the opportunity to help shape legislation in Irvine as well. Currently, have 102 high school students registered. We have a number of seats available still, so encourage any high school students to attend. It'll be here on the twenty fourth. I look forward to seeing all of you here and hearing what your thoughts are. I think it's very important and looking forward to hear from the students as well. Thank you very much.
Thank you Vice Mayor Mai. I think that concludes the announcements I want to thank my colleagues for bringing us up to the minute on activities in your respective districts. This is I think helpful to everyone in our community. With that, we move now to additions and deletions to the agenda. City manager crumby, do we have any additions or deletions tonight?
Thank you, mayor. There's been a few requests from the council, and we're prepared to accommodate any direction from you and the council.
And, what are those requests?
There's been a few requests from Councilmember Mai related to the agenda. Maybe Vice Mayor Mai can talk to that.
Sure, absolutely. I believe 3.3 I would like to remove Independence Day celebration update. I'd like to strike that from the agenda, And, also, Melinda Lee would you like councilmember Lee would you like to speak to three point five as well?
Sure. We'll postpone and continue the item 3.5 to the next council meeting on 01/27/2026?
We're happy to continue 3.5 if that's the direction for
Which the was that? That would be the
veterans services item on the agenda.
Forgive me for just asking. What is going on here? Why are items put on the agenda and then taken off when people might be sitting in the audience who, based on the publication of the agenda, have come to this meeting?
Thank you, mayor. In the run up to this council meeting, there were requests from council members to modify the agenda. Without direction from the mayor. Staff is not in the position to do that unilaterally. And so we're asking for direction from the council or the mayor and the council as a whole on what to do about those requests.
Are there other requests? Are these No, mayor. All right. What is 3.3 again?
I'll read the title. It's Independence Day celebration update.
All right. Let me just say that matter has been bumping along from one meeting to another. I don' know how our staff can possibly deal with independence day events whether we' having them or not, what combination of events, and what funding and so forth. Personally unless there' a motion I personally would not wish to see that item deleted it' just lead to continuing uncertainty confusion with our staff. Unless there' a motion I simply don' want to see that that one withdrawn from the agenda.
Absent a motion that will remain on the agenda.
Point of order I' like to speak to that if possible. If we're going to discuss this we'll discuss this but until then I'm not going to make any comments to it I'm just going to make a motion to strike this from the agenda.
Second. A motion by councilmember mye. Seconded by councilmember treseder to remove item 3.3 from the agenda. At this time discussion is in order. I' call on councilmember carol.
Thank you mayor I don' really have much to add except to say I' like to understand the reason I'm prepared to discuss the matter, but I'm not sure how I could vote if I don't really know why like you, I don't know what's happening. If the maker of the motion wants to discuss why it needs to be removed I could support that but absent that I don't know. You.
I will recognize myself. I guess that' my question if I might direct it to the vice mayor councilmember mye. What is to be gained by withdrawing it from
the issue? Like to vote
mayor and then we can discuss it after if we need to discuss it.
No the motion.
The motion is to withdraw and there was a second so.
And we're discussing the motion.
I would just like to I'm going to respond to you by saying that I'm not going to discuss until until the motion is full.
Given we're given no reason. We're given last minute notice. This is not a way to run an agenda. I feel for our staff because we've not had our heads together on this Independence Day event planning. Staff had prepared a report that's in front of us.
And we had more or less pledged last time that we would conclude this matter tonight, that we would conclude it tonight. I think we should stick with that pledge. Accordingly, urge a no vote on the motion to remove item 3.3 from the agenda. Anything further? Will the clerk please call the roll.
Councilmember Carrol. No. Councilmember Goh.
Councilmember Lu.
We just voting to remove it.
Voting to remove item 3.3.
Just remove it. Yes.
Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Trisheter?
Vice Mayor Mai? Yes. Mayor Agram?
Thank you carries five to two with councilmember carol and mayor agron voting no.
Alright so it is removed from the agenda. Alright I'm I'm just going to flat out ask my colleagues what is the direction to staff with respect to the Independence Day events? Maybe I'll ask of the city manager.
So, we're in a position in terms of planning for the Independence Day celebrations that have been talked about where staff is not able to secure vendors to provide service, namely for the traffic control, for the stages, and for some of the support services. And delaying any further only makes it less of the ability to do that. So without the ability to have the item on the agenda, there really isn't going to be a city fourth of July event in the Great Park.
That will be the natural evolution here as a practical matter we want.
As a practical matter. Without a vote, there really is no way to execute.
All right. Well, let me just make the request now. Put this on the next agenda. At that time, presumably, the report will come in that we can't have an event because it's too late.
Will do.
All right. Yes, Councilmember Carroll. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I'm actually not interested in destroying four, so I'd like to have a vote. So I move to add it back onto the agenda, if someone would second that, please.
All right. We' actually voted on the matter.
I can add it. I move to add it. You move to add it to be going on. To have a second for that please.
I'll second it.
And then
I'll speak to it. Just because it's acute parliamentary maneuver, congratulations.
Happy to help.
And I think I can see Mr. Melchin kind of shaking his head a little bit here.
The mayor, the agenda before this you should just proceed with the motion. You're right. It's acute parliamentary procedure. If it were framed as a motion to reconsider, it would need to have been made by the winning side. But it's been framed as a motion to add something back on the agenda. I was shaking my head because from a Brown Act standpoint, I'm trying to figure out whether we're now adding something to an agenda, which requires an exigency to add something to the agenda at the meeting that wasn't on the seventy two hour published agenda. But in this instance, it was on the seventy two hour published agenda. It just happened to have been removed by the last motion.
All right. Well, I second the I've seconded the motion. Would you like to pose an argument, Council Member Carroll?
Yeah. I have a simple argument for everybody out there listening in the television audience and the staff and the rest of my colleagues. It sounds to me that the city manager of the city of Irvine said, if we don't take this up in some form out today and discuss it and come up with some type of a celebration for the July 4, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States of America, then we are in dire we're in a dire situation, and we're in severe jeopardy of having anything at all. So I would like a vote on that. A vote yes is to discuss this and come up with something to do on the July 4.
A vote of my colleagues no is that we have decided to put fourth of July you know, we've decided to table fourth of July here in the city of Irvine. I will be attending no problem at all. Like I do every year, I'll be attending with my children, the float with the floats that we build at the Woodbridge HOA, amazing Fourth of July parade. So, I don't need anything else. But for all of our folks living in multifamily apartments throughout our 360,000 person city, I think it's appropriate that we consider some type of Fourth of July event that doesn't require $200 tickets to go see the Pacific Symphony.
That mayor is the reason why I'm I want a yes vote and I want to talk about this. That's the reason why vote no and vote fourth of July away. Thank you.
Thank you. Your motion is before us. Councilmember Liu, followed by Councilmember Mai.
Thank you, Mayor. Well, I wanted to add to this. So if we're going to discuss this, we had precedents before that we had items removed, then we still had discussion. But my point is, to what goal? And that's kind of what I would like to know that I understand.
And it's rather unfortunate that we don't have time and we may not be able to have a citywide event for our two hundred and fiftieth Fourth of July. I know that cities have been working very hard to find that way to make this happen. So I just wanted to know, yes, are we doing this just for the sake of discussion, or we actually do have a solution to this?
Are you directing that question to Councilmember Carroll?
Well, or to anybody who wants to speak in support of continuing or continuing the discussion or adding it back on the
All right. Did you want to respond to that councilmember carol and then councilmember mias requested to be heard?
No, absolutely. That's I understand, Councilmember. I just you know, I know that we have a staff. We have recommended action, and we directed staff to come back to talk about it. So we've noticed it. We probably have a bunch of speakers coming to talk about Fourth of July. So, you know, I think this is a cute way of shoving it under the sweeping it under the rug so that nobody has to hear public comments about it. So I'd like to hear the public comments and be able to deliberate on it. But, that's a good point. I mean, we it was a difficult item to discuss in the last meeting. But, I think to take it off right now is a disservice to the public.
All right. Let me me just interject here for a moment. Additions and deletions to the agenda, are those a matter under state law that require opening that up to public comment?
Only if somebody had submitted a comment on additions and deletions to the agenda. No the answer is no.
No there' no public comment okay Councilmember mi.
Thank you mayor. If we' going to discuss this I thought we had already moved this discussion but I really don' see a reason to discuss this at this point. I've talked countless hours with staff already. It's near impossible to execute at this point in time. I've warned the city.
I've warned my colleagues here in the past over the past couple months we need to get the show on the road or we will not be able to get vendors we will not be able to get sponsorships I' got confirmation that all vendors traffic security are not available it's futile to even continue this discussion because it can' happen. If it happens it's going to be at extraordinarily long lengths from the staff. I don't want to put the staff through that again. It's too late already. They've told me that it's too late already.
I've tried everything to make it happen. Another thing is people this was voted on last time, and it was incorrectly the motion was incorrectly if correct me if I'm wrong, but that motion was incorrect to bring it back at $250,000 That needed to go to the public at first. And, I want that addressed as well. If you could, please.
Are you asking me to Yes. So, the timeline of the motions from the council would be that this item was first brought in November to the City Council for approval, at which time the council voted to increase the budget from $250,000 which was included in the original budget, by an additional $350,000 to a total budget of $600,000 The direction from the City Council was to bring this item back in December to decide between a July 3 and a July 4 date for the event. When the item came back in December, the direction from counsel was to come back in January and present an event staying within the $250,000 budget. And so, what we had placed onto the agenda was complying with that direction.
It was not complying with that?
It was. It is. Okay.
And, I want to state something here is that the things I put on here, I've heard people say this is my baby, this is my thing, this is my thing because I'm placing I'm placing and leading on this. I'm placing these things on here because I'm leading for the community. I had said that we need to get this on the road. If not, it's not going to happen. And, because of certain temperature on this dais here and political gaming, it basically we cannot execute it no matter what.
We cannot simply execute it because of time, because of the constraints from the vendors and the sponsors. I don't know if that was the intention or not, but that's where we're at. So, why are we even having discussion? Why are we continuing this discussion when it is improbable to even execute for the staff? That's that's the reason I wanted to pull it off of the agenda here. There shouldn't be any more discussion of it because it physically is not impossible impossible to do anymore. And, it's unfortunate because we had 40 to 50,000 people show up. I have countless children come up to me and say, when's the next July 4? I have countless families saying we had a great time. We needed to execute, and we lost that opportunity of a window.
Due to whatever reason, bringing it back, changing it, we needed to decide on a day we should have executed when we could in November for the staff to have enough time, but we did not execute on that. And, we brought it back again once again. And, while now we want to bring it up again once again for what what exact reason. There is no reason when there's a confirmation from the staff that we cannot do it simply because the vendors that have been selected. Trying to combine it with sick low people tried to do that. I even brought up the intent to even bring it back to Irvine High and bring back a tradition that Irvine has always had at with IPA, but we can't do it. We've tried every single possibility. The staff has tried every single possibility and there' nothing we can do anymore. Thank you.
We have a motion before us let me just see if I can sort this out. If everybody is in agreement as a practical matter that there cannot be a major new fourth of July event, then why don't we just take action to have staff stop thinking about it and relieve staff of any burden? I mean, we can do it this way and just let things kind of drift. Yes, Councilmember Carroll.
Yeah, thank you, mayor. I think I was headed in that direction. I mean, this is a properly agendized, whether anybody likes it or not, this is a properly agendized item of the City Council of Irvine, California. One of the defects in the process with which we run these meetings is that the general non agendized public and Jeff's going start nodding. The general non agendized public comments appear before additions and deletions.
And with counsel and when Mayor Egren and I can get some of these counsel policies and procedure revisions before this counsel, one of the most important things we can do is to bring additions and deletions ahead of general and non agendized public comments. Because the practical effect, new council members, when you do this and you slide this thing off, is you now have prevented the chance for any of the residents of this city to have public comments on things that have been put on the agenda. Because the time for general, non agendized public comments has expired. So what you have done if you vote not to hear this and not to have discussions that we're talking about, such as bring the item up, Mayor Agron says, sounds like we need a motion, you know. We're hearing from some of our colleagues that there's no possible way this can happen.
I guess we have to move to have staff stop dealing with it, rather than putting in this suspended animation where staff's just spinning its wheels right now doing who knows what, talking to vendors, they're already taxed enough as it is as we build out the largest underdevelopment park in The United States Of America, the Great Park. So, the other practical effect of saying no, and again, rushing this agenda item under the rug is you've now squelched the ability I don't care if it's one or 101 people that have the opportunity to speak. And as we've all met as a council policies and procedures committee working with the city attorney, it's unfortunately just kind of the cadence of the way this goes, is that we can't now have anybody speak to this item and, to not have anybody exercise their speech rights on these agendized items is, in my opinion, fraught with trouble. And it also leads to the idea that we're somehow, we don't want to hear what people have to say about it. And even if no one has to say anybody, to open it up to public comment and have Carl say we have six people in person, and we have 12 people on Zoom is an important part of what we do.
And until general non agendized public comments come after the deletion of an item, you will always have this problem. So from a process perspective and also from the perspective of maybe directing staff that it's over with, you know, which is the responsibility to do, Sounds like we both will have a motion if we properly hear it. The motion will be this thing's over. Here are the reasons why we heard some of those arguments. We'll hear from the public. And then a motion will be made, it sounds like, to to, pull up essentially fold the tent and not work on July 4 this year. So that's my belief why we should vote yes to hear this item and have the public have a chance to speak. Thank you.
Just to remind folks there we go. Just to remind folks of a yes vote would be to keep it on the agenda, basically put it on the agenda. I see that councilmember mi will give you the last word and then have the calling of the roll.
Thank you mayor yeah know 3.3 was removed there's no other discussion on this it's basically a dead deal I don't see why we should continue so I'll be voting no to continue this and let's move on with the agenda.
All right. Absent Councilmember Liu.
So my question is, like I asked before, what is the goal of we're trying to achieve here. But if that is something that we have voted on, and I believe councilmember carol was pointing out the fact that we had already put this in motion and maybe we should properly end it if that's our plan as a council.
That's a practical effect of his motion, yes.
I see what then.
Okay, thank you.
So, a yes vote would put the substance of the matter back on the agenda. All right. Will the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll.
Councilmember Go. No. Councilmember Liu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Sorry, just to clarify, so we are voting to erase this item?
This is a motion to put it back on.
Is this
back on?
Yes. Councilmember Trisheeter? No. Vice Mayor May? No. Mayor Egren. Yes. Carries four to three with Council Member Goh, Council Member Trusieder, and Vice Mayor Mai voting no.
What was that, a forty five minute detour? And we're back where we were.
Can we get a consensus on removal of 3.5 from the agenda?
And again, 3.5 That's
the Veterans Support Services. I feel like there was consensus to remove that item. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much.
Absent a motion to the contrary, that item will be removed. Alright. Now with the agenda set, let's keep going. We move now to the consent calendar all matters listed under the consent calendar and tonight the consent calendar is items 2.1 to 2.6. Those matters are considered by the city manager to be routine and will be enacted by one roll call vote.
There won't be a discussion of these matters unless members of the city council request specific items to be removed from the consent calendar for separate discussion. But first, I think we turn to the city clerk and ask if there are any citizen requests to be heard.
Thank you, mayor. We have one request via Zoom.
One request. Why don't we have that individual come forward now? And then we'll look to the council for motions. All right?
And then apologies, Mayor. There's one that just jumped in last minute.
So there's two. There are two. All right. And if you would please close the queue at this point.
Thank you, Mayor. Our first speaker is telephone number 347. 347, you may unmute your mic.
Yes, this is Dee Fox, and I want to talk about item 2.6. Residents were told the Great Park would be a balanced master planned community, jobs near homes, manageable traffic, adequate schools, and environmental response and environmental responsibility. What are we seeing instead is a steady erosion of that vision. This ordinance adds 1,300 more residential units while cutting back nonresidential job producing land. This is the exact opposite of balance.
Each time housing is added and jobs are removed, traffic gets worse. Communities commutes get longer, and vehicle emissions increase despite the city's stated climate goals. We are promised planning that kept infrastructure ahead of growth. The reality today is peak hour gridlock around the Great Park and schools operating at or near capacity. Now this council is being added to lock in even more density with no enforceable guarantees that roads will be widened, intersections fixed, or schools built before families move in.
We were promised sustainability. The reality is years of diesel construction equipment, increased pollution, and thousands of additional daily car trips, all concentrated in one area. You cannot claim climate leadership while approving land use decisions that knowingly increase vehicle miles traveled. At second reading, this council has a choice, uphold the original commitments made to the community or admit that those promises no longer matter. We need to get on this, you guys.
This is crazy. These new council members, they don't even know what they're voting for. They put things on the agenda, and then they take things off the agenda. I I was gonna speak on Melinda Lou's agenda item, the last one, and now I guess I can't even speak to it. But she's gonna bring it back next week. Whatever. Thank you, Maygrin, mayor Larry for sticking up for the people. You.
Mayor second speaker dropped out of the queue so that's all the speakers.
Are there counsel requests to remove any items from the consent calendar? Let me clarify something item 2.6 which is the second reading on the housing enhancements in and around the Great Park. Approving the consent calendar, in my case, since I voted against that, my vote on that particular item on second reading will be recorded as no.
That's correct for you. Everybody's vote on second reading will be reflected as the same as it was on first reading.
All right. I just want to make sure that's there for the record. All right. Will the clerk please call the roll oh, I'll move adoption of the consent calendar.
Second.
Seconded by Council Member Liu. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Council Member Carroll. Yes. Council Member Go. Yes. Council Member Liu. Yes. Council Member Martinez Franco. Yes. Council Member Trecedar.
Vice Mayor May? Yes. Mayor Akron? Yes. Carries seven-zero.
All right, that takes care of the consent calendar, allowing us to move to counsel business item 3.1. I' going to need a lot of help from the city clerk and others, a lot of cooperation to move through this. Please, would you, Mr. Peterson, identify item 3.1 by title and subject.
Thank you, mayor. Item 3.1 is approval of appointments of city council representatives to city advisory committees and governmental agencies and selection of interim mayor.
I wish to advise anybody who is participating electronically via zoom that now would be the time to raise your hand electronically to enter the speaker queue. Let me introduce this item with just a few comments. Each year the city council appoints delegates and alternates to various outside governmental agency boards as well as in house advisory committees on which the city council has representation. This is as required by the Irvine municipal code. The proposed appointments and there are many of them this evening.
This is done at the beginning of every year. The proposed appointments before you this evening include some of what are referred to as my recommendations for the ensuing year. I want to just kind of qualify that. By custom and tradition, the mayor solicits from counsel colleagues interest in their serving on one kind of a committee or a county agency where we have representation or whatever. And typically, then, the many, many opportunities for service in county regional agencies, committees and the like.
That is kind of a volunteer activity on the part of council members express an interest in one thing or another and most of these are filled amicably and with a lot of cooperation between and among council members. Sometimes you get into situations where a number of them have interests expressed by more than one council member, maybe two, maybe three. And we have to have a process for deciding among those who have expressed interest which will actually be our representative for the next year. So let me just go back to this. The proposed appointments before us this evening are for the ensuing year for the balance of 2026 And these include those related to in house advisory committees and outside governmental agency boards where there are either no changes or those with changes where the level of interest in serving does not exceed the number of available positions.
In other words, they' not contested by anybody. How do you want to proceed, Mr. Peterson, in this regard? Should we start with those first?
I'll defer to you and the City Council mayor, but I might suggest that you first take up, if somebody makes a motion to approve the ones where there's no changes, all in one motion since there's no contest. Alright.
Are you putting on there a list? It's not on this screen. Okay. Or you'd have to be Superman to read that. But basically, there are a number of committees and the like where people have been serving and they've not requested a change.
And as far as I'm concerned, that's good because we want some continuity. I don't think we want to go over these individually, but I can say that various agencies and committees and so forth where we have representatives are very, very important. And I think especially important among newer council members to be able to gain experience. And so I'm glad to see there are many where there are no changes, no changes requested. Why don't I simply move adoption of all of those that are on the screen before us?
Is there a second?
I'll second.
Seconded by Councilmember Liu. All right, any discussion on that?
Just one thing, mayor, that I just want to mention for the record. There are no requests to speak on this item.
Oh, excellent. And the queue is closed, right?
I'll defer to you on that.
Let's close it now. Okay. Actually, no, let's keep it open on this whole item. Let's keep it open. I don't want to cut off public comment if, in fact, somebody has some later on. All right. There's a motion properly before us. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll. Yes. Councilmember Go. Yes. Councilmember Liu.
Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Trusieder?
Vice Mayor May? Yes. And Mayor Agram? Yes. Carries seven-zero.
Yes. Thank you. And to all those who are continuing in those positions, as they say thank you for your service for your continuing service. In cases where the level of interest exceeds the number of available positions, I'm not making any particular recommendations myself. What I typically do is just encourage people to discuss these matters among themselves and see if we can resolve things.
Mr. Mayor? Yes. Before we move on to that step, there's actually an in between step, if you will. We have two outside agency committee appointments where there are changes, but the level of interest does not exceed the number of positions. So there's two that are highlighted on the screen, which includes the Orange County Power Authority and the Irvine Community Land Trust.
All right. These are not being contested, so let's get practical on it. With respect to which is the first one? The first
one is the irvine community land trust.
The irvine community land trust previously serving were councilmembers go and my I believe right? Councilmember go has agreed to step off is that correct? Correct. And that makes room for councilmember my I'm sorry councilmember who
take his position and nobody else has expressed interest. Why don't we just move adoption of that change right now. I'll be happy to move it.
Is there
a second? Seconded by councilmember Cecilia? Any further discussion? There being none, will the court call the roll.
Councilmember Carroll?
Councilmember Go. Yes. Councilmember Liu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Yes. Councilmember Trusieder.
Vice Mayor May.
And Mayor Agram. Yes. Carry seven-zero.
That allows us to move on to the second one, which was OCPA. PA. Correct. And as I understand it, just to review the bidding, is it councilmember which is the one who's stepping off? Councilmember Goh. Goh is a step down.
And then councilmember Tristeider would fill the vacancy.
And there being no other requests for anyone else. If we I
do have a comment. CEO of moska did request that we did put an alternate as well.
Let's come to that on a second. Let's vote on filling the active positions first. And then we'll turn to the question of the OCPA's request for alternates. I'm sorry was there a motion did I offer a motion? We need one I believe. I'll offer a motion to appoint councilmember to replace Council Member Go. Second. Second by Council Member Mai. I see no requests to be heard. Will the clerk please oh, I'm sorry.
Council Member Carroll?
Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I just want to clarify. I believe the per meeting, and maybe the board members, is $315 It's not $212.5 is it? What's the actual meeting fee Through the chair? I think it's over 300 at this point.
I think it's the same as the sanitation district. So what is the sanitation district?
I'm sorry, wrong list. One moment.
It has it on the previous slide, I believe. All right. Line 15 has the sanitation district.
All right. That Yeah, 315 per meeting. So it's the same. I wasn't aware of an increased stipend. If that's the new stipend,
then the allocated amount is provided. Am I correct?
Yeah, would just move that the motion include that it's $315 a meeting.
All right, just to correct that. And with the motion properly before us with the clerk please call the
roll.
CHAIRMAN Councilmember Carroll. CHAIRMAN Yes. CHAIRMAN Franco.
Councilmember Trecedor.
Vice Mayor Mai. Yes. Mayor Agram. Yes. Carry seven zero.
Thank you. With respect to the request from OCPA that we have two alternates, I would ask at this point are there any volunteers to be alternates to ocpa?
I' be willing to step in as an alternate. I' working on some important aspects in terms of trying to maintain our two seats post the payback of
the loan so I believe we You would like to be an alternate? Correct. I think everybody's very excited about that. We have one alternate. How about another? Is there another? You're unlikely to be called on. Councilmember Martinez Franco volunteers as well, I move that they be designated as alternates. Is there a second? Second. Seconded by Council Member Goh. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Council Member Carroll. Yes. Council Member Go. Yes. Council Member Liu. Yes. Council Member Martinez Franco. Yes. Council Member Trusieder.
Vice Mayor May. Yes. And Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries seven-zero.
All right. We're on a roll here. What's next, Mr. Peterson?
The next is what you indicated before. The next is a list of those where there's limited positions available but the interest exceeds the number of positions.
All right why don't we take those one at a time. What is the first one?
The first one is the irvine barkley theater operating company. There are two positions open and there's three council members who have expressed interest.
All right let's get clarification on this. We do have staff continuity and representation that' been michelle grettenberg is that correct?
That' correct.
Does this have anything to do with her position? Not really. No. All right. This is just among council members. So who are those who have expressed interest?
Councilmember Martinez Franco and Vice Mayor Mayor are interested in being reappointed and councilmember trecedar is also interested in participating.
Since we have three for two positions let me suggest that each of those who have expressed interest, instead of self nominating and all that business, just please speak to your desire to continue to serve in the case of those who are serving now as to why you would wish to continue. And those who are not on, speak as to why you'd like to be added to this particular committee. Shall we start with incumbents?
I'll defer to you, mayor. But to your point, the incumbents are
Yes. So it was mentioned that we have a staff member on there so if that staff member was to relieve herself or leave the position there would it would it open up three slots for us or are those designated staff versus council members?
These spots are at the pleasure of the council and could be filled with three council members if that's the desire of the council.
Would this be proposed at a later time outside of this meeting, or how would that happen?
No, it would be our preference to do it now. Please do it now.
Are you making a motion to that effect now?
I would like to make a motion to have help me if I'm structuring this incorrectly here, but I would like to see three board seats represented by three city council members here.
That would be an appropriate motion. Is there a second?
Second.
I'd like to I'm sorry, Councilmember Carroll, did you wish to speak on this?
Oh, yeah, to the motion, yeah.
On this motion?
Yeah,
with your All right, because I want to speak to it as well. Go ahead.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I just
want to get some clarification about it. So it sounds like we've traditionally had two members on the Barclay board and one staff member. Has that been the way it's been as far back as we is that the precedent? Or what can we get a little more perspective on that? Maybe Yes.
Ms. Gretchenberg could come by.
Partially aware of the history Our veteran. Beyond this current term, and maybe Assistant City Manager Gretchenberg Thank
Council Member Carroll, before Michelle speaks, I'll just limp in and say, until you had a seven member council, I'm quite confident you did not have three members sitting on the Barclay board. You
really stole the thunder of
Assistant City Manager Gretchenberg, although I would love to hear from her.
the city manager has been on that board for many years and I' just say it has provided in my judgment the kind of continuity that I' be very hesitant to lose. I know I'm expressing myself on the motion, but I think this would be the appropriate time. Go ahead, Councilmember Carroll. Councilmember Gretchenberg, did you have anything to add? I'm sorry staff member.
Thank you. Good evening mayor and city council michelle Gretchenberg assistant city manager. Yes certainly as city attorney mentioned the two there has never been three council members on the barkley board I want to say as early as maybe four years or so or so that was the first time an actual council member was appointed to the barkley board prior to that there were staff members and or planning commissioners on that board.
Thank you thank you mayor for clarifying appreciate it and you know so I'll be supportive of keeping a member of staff on that board and keeping would you continue to serve Ms. Gretchenberg if that if continued with the way that it's been going? Would you still be our person from the staff?
I've had the great honor of serving the Barkley Board, Barkley Theater Board of Directors, at the pleasure of the City Council. And certainly if the council that's the council's interest in continuing that I am certainly available but certainly if there's a different interest I absolutely understand that as well. You. Thank
you. So yeah for this council member I'll be supporting the two members picking two council members and keeping one staff member and keeping Michelle Gretchenberg on the board thank you mayor.
There is the motion before us from councilmember mye to change it to three council members. Councilmember carol having spoken next is councilmember trecedar.
Yes thank you. I think that when we had a five member city council it made a lot of sense for there to be only two representatives from the council on this board because we didn't want to violate any Brown Act restrictions. But now that we have expanded to seven, then we can be up to three and still adhere to the Brown Act. I really respect Ms. Gretchenberg's knowledge and history with this board.
And of course, she would still be able to offer all the same advice and resources that she would before. The reason that I am interested in serving is simply because the Barclays Theatre is a partnership with UCI. I am obviously closely associated with UCI and so it would make sense we have a direct partnership if I am on the board. I think that it would make things a bit more streamlined. And so that is why I'm hoping to be appointed. Thank you.
I'd like to speak to the motion that is in front of us, which is to have the representation currently provided by our assistant city manager to dispense with that and put three council members on. While we can do that I think it' very unwise. It was my pleasure and honor to serve on the parkway theater board for a number of years. It' a complicated organization with a very very important complicated mission and having the direct availability and representation of our professional staff I found to be very helpful. Council members come and go to have continuity of staff representation representing the interests of the city is I think the proper organization.
Accordingly I'm opposed to the motion and encourage my colleagues to oppose it as well and move on to a vote among the three who have expressed interest. Councilmember trussieder.
I just want to reiterate that I really appreciate the knowledge and experience that Ms. Gretchenberg brings to this. Could she attend even if she were not on the board could she still attend the meeting so that she can provide some advice or information as necessary?
We're happy to provide staff support.
Yeah, Okay. So that's good. So we could still have all those valuable resources that Ms. Gretchenberg represents, and have three council members on the board. Thank you.
All right. Councilmember Carroll. Yeah.
Was just also it's probably just a question for the city attorney. But is there a potentiality of a conflict of interest or appearance of a conflict of interest to have a UCI employee on the board of that entity? Being that it's sort of a UCI city partnership, How does that intersect? Is there anything that we should be thinking about?
Does not create a conflict of interest from the standpoint of the Fair Political Practices Act or the Political Reform Act or any other California law, primarily because it's an uncompensated position, the position with the board. So I can't speak to the question of appearance of conflict, but I can say as a matter of law, not a conflict.
Okay, great. Thank you. And I would just say that, you know, with regard to this, yeah, this isn't this is just continuing to choose two members. So, kicking the staff member off and voting yes to do that is sort of the easy approach. The harder approach is actually making decisions up here and choosing two of the seven to sit on the board and preserving the relationship we have with a, voting member of our board, our assistant city manager, Michelle Gretchenberg, to remain in that position as she's been serving for a number of years. And we can have that harder conversation with three people interested and picking two among the three. So that's why I'll be voting no. Thank you.
No further requests to be heard. What is the motion before us?
The motion as I understand it would be to appoint councilmember martinez franco and vice mayor mye reappoint them and also add councilmember truce eater to the board so at all three requests.
That is the motion. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll. No. Councilmember Goh.
Councilmember Liu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Councilmember Traceter.
Vice Mayor May.
Mayor Agram. No. Carries five to two with Councilmember Carroll and Mayor Agram voting no.
All right. We've taken care of that item. Now we move on.
Thank you, Mayor. The next one would be the Irvine Child Care Project, which is a nonprofit JPA between the city of Irvine and Irvine Unified School District. And one thing, if I may clarify for the record, this isn't a committee that, technically, there's more interest than there are available positions. What we're simply asking for is there were two council members that expressed interest, Vice Mayor Mai and Councilmember Liu. There is not on this committee there is not two delegate positions but rather there is a delegate and an alternate. So we need clarification as to who would serve as the delegate and who would serve as the alternate on this committee. Thank you.
I' just thinking it' too bad between the two of them they couldn' have decided this matter. All right. The Irvine child care committee. There are two expressions of interest. I would invite councilmember Mai as well as Councilmember Liu to state your reasons for wishing to serve in the position and then I guess we will figure out how to vote on the matter.
Council Member Mai is requested to be heard first, then Council Member Liu.
Sure. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I'm interested in serving on this. I've served on the Irvine Child Care Committee for approximately three years also working with first five in the county I also have two children at Irvine unified school district in regards to the positioning here I understand that there are two slots I'm more than happy to provide my services and my serving as an alternate if Councilmember Melinda Lu would like to be the delegate.
Well, thank you. That's a gracious offer. Do you accept, Councilmember Lu?
Yes. Thank you.
All right. I think why don't you make a or I'll make a motion to that effect that the appointees be Councilmember Liu and that the alternate to be Vice Mayor James Mai. Is there a second? Second. Second. Seconded by Councilmember Goh. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll? Yes. Councilmember Goh? Yes. Councilmember Liu? Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Trusieder?
Vice Mayor May? Yes. And Mayor Agram?
Yes. Carry seven-zero. Thank you. And as they say, three years, thank you for your service, Council Member Mai. With that, we move on. What's next?
Thank you. The next one is the Irvine liaison and coordinating committee with the County Of Orange. There are two available positions. Those that have expressed interest are councilmember Traceter, Vice Mayor Mai, and councilmember Go.
There are two positions, all right. First of all, as I understand it, this committee is yet to meet right?
It's not that they haven't met they just haven't met in a long time it's my understanding that it's been well over two years since they last met.
Probably they should meet so we could better coordinate things with the county. But we appreciate the expressed interest. I think let's use the same procedure. And I would invite those who have a trusted interest councilmember terceder being first here on the monitor to tell us why she would like to serve on this committee and that would be followed by the same offer to Councilmember Mai and Councilmember Go.
Thank you. Yeah, I am so glad that my colleagues, Vice Mayor Mai and Councilmember Go, would like to serve on this committee. And I have a lot of faith in their ability to do that. So I'm happy to withdraw my name.
CHAIRMAN Well, thank you. That's gracious on your part. And I'll move that council members Mai and Go be our two appointees to this yet to meet, or soon to meet, we hope, county coordinating committee. Second. Seconded by councilmember Mai. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll? Yes. Councilmember Go? Yes. Councilmember Liu? Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Trezieder?
Vice Mayor Mai? Yes. Mayor Agram? Yes. Carry seven-zero.
Thank you. Please give us a report when they meet. Next. Thank
you mayor. The next one is the orange County Fire Authority. There's one position available councilmember Martinez Franco currently serves and councilmember go has expressed interest in serving as well.
Councilmember franco you have been the incumbent is that correct? I' call on you first and then call on councilmember goh. Please if you would just offer us a brief couple of moments as to why you would like to continue to serve?
I will give the courtesy to my colleague William Goh to start with his
All right, you defer to him. Councilmember Go, you wish to serve, in effect, replacing councilmember martinez franco would you like to speak to that?
Thank you mayor. I' one of the few council members unfortunately that live in the high fire danger zones me and my homeowners we' been talking quite a bit we' had numerous town halls a lot of our insurance premiums have been going up quite a bit and some have been threatened for cancellations as well. So I feel the pain and I want to be able to get resources available I've been working with the cert team and the fire preparedness team at Portola Hills they requested quite a bit of help and support as well from the city and ocfa if possible to get their region supported as you know they' been evacuated numerous times in the past I believe that the definite much more attention needs to be put upon Irvine residents Irvine Homes District 1 Millen Duluth District needs quite a bit of attention as well so this Turtle Rock area where councilmember carol lives so I understand a lot of the issues and really want to put forth and put the time in to serve the public and getting us the resources here at the fire authority.
Thank you. Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Yes. Thank you. About the fire hazard zones, That's the state designating those. But let me start by telling you this distinguished members of the city council, neighbors, and friends. I would like to take a moment to thank you for entrusting me to serve with integrity on the LCFA Board of Directors over the past few months.
In a short amount of time, I have fully immersed myself in this responsibility. I have participated in critical negotiations that relates to ambulance ambulance services and firefighter compensation decisions that directly affect response times, morale, and the safety of our residents. These are not as abstract policy discussions. They are decisions that determine whether help arrives in time or whether it doesn't. But it's what I have witnessed outside the ballroom that has stayed with me the most. Do we have the presentation?
We're working on getting that up. Councilmember Martijn Serenco, thank you for your patience.
Thank you. So this is why I seek reappointment to the OCFA Board of Directors. Next slide, please. Standing at the nineeleven Remembrance, I was reminded that public safety is building sacrifice. At the OCFA girls empowerment camp, I watched young girls discover confidence and courage because firefighters chose to invest in them.
Next slide. At third graduations, I listened to residents, teenagers, and city staff share how they will take what they learned and use it to protect their families and their neighbors in case of an emergency. And I attended the holiday fire safety prevention press event knowing that a single piece of information shared that day could prevent tragedy. But with that, I have also received heartbreaking calls from our fire chief. News of residents who tragically lost their lives, not in fires.
Homes destroyed for fires, yes. Business forever changed by fire. Those names may not always appear in our reports, but they are real. They are our neighbors, our friends, our families. They deserve leaders who do not treat this responsibility lightly. Know that they have been in my prayers, and they have guide every decision I make. OCFA is a complex joint powers authority. It cannot be fully understood or responsibly covered in a matter of months. Continuity matters. Stability matters.
Next slide. Rotary representation to Quickley sends the wrong message not only internally, but to the residents of Irvine, our county county partners, and other government agencies that rely on consistency and trust. Irvine is the largest contract city and one of the largest financial contributions to OCFA. With that comes responsibility, my friends. Our city is growing rapidly with almost 320,000 people living in Irvine, our residents deserve adequate fire stations, proper coverage, and the fastest possible response when they dial 911.
That level of advocacy cannot be learned overnight. It requires building relationships, institutional knowledge, and sustained commitment. Work I'm already deeply invested in. Let me be clear. This is not about politics.
This is about people. It is about whether a parent makes it home, whether a child is pulled from a burning room in time, whether a neighbor receives life saving care when seconds matter. Playing musical chairs with this board risk far more than political discomfort. It risk lives, and that is morally grown. So I ask you this.
Do we want uncertainty on a board responsible for life and death decisions? Or do we want continuity from someone who is already fully invested, informed, and working every day to strengthen OCFA's ability to respond faster and serve better. I have the time to dedicate to this agency. I have the passion to advocate for fair wages and safe working condition for our firefighters and staff. But most importantly, I have a deep commitment to the urban residents who rely on OCFA OCFA services on the worst day of their lives.
Serving on the OCFA board is not a title for me. It is a responsibility to its people, to our communities, and to the lives entrusted to us. We owe them consistency. We owe them seriousness. And above all, we owe them our very best. I hope, colleagues, I can count on you to do what is morally right for the residents of Irvine and allow me to continue that work you trusted me to do just a few months ago. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments. I think what I'd like to do is open it up to anyone at the dais here before we move on to an appropriate vote. I see no request. Let me let me just say as a general rule my own attitude toward these various appointments and ocf a is certainly an important one. Others are very important as well.
I really value continuity. I recognize a steep learning curve, particularly for people who are new to counsel work. We are regrettably way way way underrepresented on the ocf a board. How many cities are there? 24 or 23, 24.
We have one vote even though we put in the lion's share of the money and we are not getting back our fair share in services. We need a representative who will fight for that. I think when we for no clear reason in my mind we kind of upset the continuity and cut somebody' service short I think we' hurting ourselves. I think I have no doubt councilmember go would do an outstanding job. But councilmember Martinez Franco has been doing the job, learning the job.
And I think she should be permitted to continue serving at least for another year or two at which time a rotation might be more appropriate. That's my comment. Anybody else? All right. No other comments?
I think the way we do this is we simply move to a roll call vote that does not require a motion. We move to a roll call vote and if each of the council members would designate either Martinez Franco or go. Is that appropriate? All right. With that, would the clerk please call the roll.
Councilmember Carole. Martinez Franco. Councilmember Go. William Go. Councilmember Liu. Pardon me? Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Martinez Franco.
Councilmember Trusieder.
William Go.
Vice Mayor Mayor
Martinez Franco.
And Mayor Agram. Martinez Franco. Motion carries four to three reappointing councilmember Martinez Franco to the orange County fire authority.
Very well. Congratulations. Thank you for your continuing service. Next on your list.
Thank you mayor. The next would be the orange County mosquito and vector control district board of trustees. And if I may just include the council has the ability to point to a two year term or a four year term on this board. Historically, the council has always appointed to a two year term. And there's one position available.
Absent objection, I would say we stick with a two year term. There seems to be no disagreement with that. So this will be for a two year term. And who has expressed interest in this?
Councilmember lu and councilmember treseder. Councilmember lu and councilmember treseder.
Let me just say although it's always the subject of some jokes and so forth, this is a very, very important body here.
We've
had all manner of vector control problems in the county. I think historically we've done a very good job. But this is an important appointment I' glad we have two qualified council members who could serve ably on this. Don' I turn to councilmember lu first and then to councilmember treseder to express their interest in serving. And then we' move to a vote.
Thank you mayor but I believe councilmember treseder put her name on the queue first.
I' sorry I didn' treseder you go first.
Thank you this is vector control correct?
Yes that's correct.
Okay I'm so grateful that councilmember Liu is interested in serving on this and I feel confident in her abilities and withdraw my name. Thanks.
All right. Thank you for graciously doing that. I think we need a motion, though, to officially appoint Council Member Liu and also move. Is there a second?
Second.
Seconded by Councilmember Liu. No, I'm sorry. Councilmember Cecilia, forgive me. Will the clerk please call the roll?
Mayor, if I may, just to clarify, again, to your point that this is for a two year term, correct?
For a
two year term. Okay. Thank you. Councilmember Carroll? Yes. Councilmember Goh? Yes. Council Member Liu? Yes. Council Member Martinez Franco?
Council Member Trusieder?
Vice Mayor Mai? Yes. And Mayor Agram? Yes. Carry seven-zero. Excellent. Let's move on. The next one is an in house committee, the ad hoc city council legislative affairs subcommittee. And one point of clarification, I apologize, there was an error in the staff report. The staff report indicated initially that there were two positions open on this committee. However, after doing further research and looking at the history, one of the positions is required that the mayor serve. So there's only now one position available. With that said, you, Mayor Abram, currently serve along with Vice Mayor Mai on this committee. There was also interest expressed by council members Goh and Treseder as well.
All right.
Well,
let me turn to Councilmember Tracida first.
Thank you. I withdraw my name from consideration. Thank you.
All right. That gets us down to thank you. That gets us down to two. Councilmember go and councilmember mye. Why don't we choose member mye's name came up first and then council member go. Let me just say in advance it's been a pleasure serving with you council member mye. With that, I turn the floor over to you.
Thank you, Mayor Egren. Yes, it's been a pleasure also serving with you on the legislative subcommittee here. I believe William Goh would do an excellent job as well, so I will be removing my name from the order.
All right. Thank you. Councilmember goh will be working together. I move that councilmember goh be appointed to serve on this internal committee. By the way, let me take this opportunity to thank our city staff. They do the real hard work of tracking the various legislative goings and comings in Sacramento. And they do a very, very good job. It makes it a pleasure to serve on this committee. Anyway, I offered the motion. Is there a second?
Second. Seconded. Seconded by councilmember Goh. Would the clerk please call the roll. Councilmember Carroll. Yes.
Councilmember Goh. Yes. Councilmember Liu.
Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Councilmember Trecedor.
Vice Mayor Mai.
And Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries seven zero. Next. Thank you. The next is the City of Irvine Hotel Improvement District operating committee. There is one position available. Councilmember Carroll currently serves. There's also been interest expressed by you, Mayor Agron, Councilmember Goh, and Councilmember Trezieder.
I'll try to make this easy. I'll withdraw my name. Since there's expressed interest by others.
I'm sorry what the others were councilmember treasurer. Councilmember treseder and councilmember go have expressed interest in councilmember carol currently serves.
Councilmember treseder would you like to speak first and then councilmember go.
Thank you. Guess what I'm withdrawing my name.
All right councilmember treseder withdraws her name. I'll move that councilmember go, who I understand has some real actual knowledge about hotels, be our appointee.
Yes. Sorry, I actually like to put forward Councilmember Liu for the HID Committee.
Oh, all right. Okay. Let me just withdraw any attempted motion I was offering. We have then a second expressed interest here, Councilmember Liu and Councilmember Goh. Councilmember goh why don' you go first and then councilmember lu after and we' move on to a vote at that point.
Thank you mayor. As you mentioned I do have quite a bit of experience in the hospitality side we currently own and operate some restaurants and hotels in our portfolio. I' been working with the hotel industry hand in hand on a lot of items but with that said I do believe councilmember re lew will do a great job and I' happy to support her and provide her any expertise and feel free I will be happy to attend any hid meeting that I needed my expertise on.
You' deferring to her? That' correct
I will withdraw my nomination here and I believe council member Lee will do a great job and I' happy to support her as well every step of the way. I'
m moving in that Go ahead did you want to offer a statement or did you just want this by acclamation?
Thank you for all your trust in me and I will definitely rely on my fellow council members to expertise from councilmember carol for sitting on the board and also councilmember goe's business expertise and rely on all of your experience. I''ll do my best thank you.
I'll move that Councilmember Liu be our designated representative to the Hotel Improvement District.
Second.
Seconded by Councilmember Tresidder. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll.
Council Member Go.
Council Member Liu. Council Member Martinez Franco.
Council Member Tresieder.
Vice Mayor Mai. Yes. Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries seven-zero.
All right.
Thank you. And the last committee, mayor, is the policies and procedures review subcommittee. Again, that's another internal committee. There are two positions available. You, mayor, and council member Carroll currently serve. There's also been interest expressed by Councilmembers Goh and Tresieder.
Yes. Let me just ask of my colleagues. Councilmember Carol and I have met on a number of occasions we' had the help of staff in trying to clean up some of our internal policies and procedures and we are very very close to just making recommendations to the council for our consideration here at the dais I would ask that we defer consideration of this particular one for thirty days, during which time councilmember Carol and I can, with the help of staff, prepare our report that would come to the council. And at that time, the council could choose new members if it wished. I move that that be the action taken.
Is there agreement? Is there a
second? I will second that.
Seconded by councilmember lu. Would the clerk please call the roll.
I believe councilmember treseder is in the
queue mayor. I'm sorry councilmember treseder.
Thank you I just wanted to check because I think I remember the council's direction we discussed this before was for the subcommittee to have a report back last November. That was delayed?
We clearly did not meet a November deadline. Although we did have a meeting that I think resolved a number of issues. And it's just a question of having staff prepare those and having us pass them along. So to the extent that we're tardy here, I apologize. But I think at our first meeting in February, we could be ready here on this. So I would ask for an affirmative vote on the motion.
Thank you, Mayor. Council Member Carroll.
Council Member Go? Yes. Council Member Liu?
Council Member Martinez Franco?
Council Member Trezeder?
Vice Mayor Mai?
Mayor Agram? Yes. Carries six to one with Council Member Trezeder voting no.
I think that concludes our work.
Almost. We have a couple of more procedural items, if I may.
Oh, yes. Please.
There's an action item. It's action item number three, which is to adopt the Fair Political Practices Commission public official appointment form eight zero six and direct me as a city clerk to post an amended form to the city website to report any changes in appointments to the governmental agencies providing stipends as determined by the city council.
All right. And there are about a half dozen of these appointments that do involve stipends and Correct. Modest compensation to those who are appointees. All right, I'll move staff recommendation. Is there a second? Come on folks, we have to
I'll move
second it.
All right, seconded by Councilmember Liu. Any discussion? There being none, would the clerk call the roll.
Councilmember Carroll.
Councilmember Goh. Yes. Councilmember Liu.
Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Councilmember Trecedar.
Vice Mayor May?
And Mayor Egren? Yes. Carry seven-zero. And then, mayor, last but not least, is the selection of interim mayor
for the ensuing year. Who is serving as interim mayor now? Councilmember carol. Councilmember carol is interim mayor now. The interim mayor is basically third in line and if the mayor and vice mayor are not present at a meeting, presides at the meeting, is there a motion? Are there volunteers? Is there interest? If there's if there's no interest councilmember Carroll. Mayor I'm. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes,
mayor. I'd like
to Councilmember Mai.
Thank you, mayor. I'd like to nominate Kathleen Treseder as interim mayor.
All right. Council Member Treseder has been nominated to be interim mayor. Any others? There being none instead of closing the nomination, why don't you offer a new motion that she be our appointee by acclamation?
I' like to make a motion to have councilmember Kathleen Tristeater be appointed interim mayor by acclamation.
Excellent with the court call the roll. I'll second that with the court call
the roll.
Thank you so just for clarity this will be to close the nomination period and appoint councilmember trecedar for the ensuing year.
Does this have to be done by nomination?
No, it doesn't. The nomination was withdrawn. And in its place, a motion to directly appoint Councilmember Trusieder as
the interim mayor was made.
That's what's before the council.
Thank you. Councilmember Carroll? Yes. Councilmember Goh? Yes. Councilmember Liu? Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Tresieder?
Vice Mayor May?
Mayor Agram? Yes. Carries seven-zero.
Good and Councilmember Carroll thank you for your service as interim mayor. Anytime. All right. With that, we've concluded this somewhat tedious but very important task. I want to thank everybody who's volunteered.
I would ask that that part of our agenda going forward that includes counsel reports that from time to time, particularly those who are serving on outside entities, please report back your representation. I think historically Councilmember Treseder and others have done this with respect to OCPA, but I think we need reports back from OCFA, OCPA, vector control, all of them. Please, from time to time, make reports. With that, thank you. All right.
Next, do my colleagues want to take a brief recess, or do you want to just plow forward? Move forward? All right. We'll move ahead. Item 3.2 on the agenda. Would the clerk please identify this business item by title and subject?
Item 3.2 is economic development division blueprint.
Thank you. With that, I'll turn to our city staff. Please introduce yourselves and make your presentation if you would. Thank you.
Good evening mayor and members of the city council and pete carmichael assistant city manager and with me tonight is Karen cook our director of economic development. Tonight's item is actually a follow-up to an item that was before you about a year ago, early twenty twenty five. We presented the results of a pretty comprehensive study of Irvine's innovation economy. It was a study jointly commissioned by the city and the Chamber of Commerce, and really recognized that the city is at an inflection point. The first fifty years of the city economic growth has largely been a function of physical growth, Real estate development, the conversion of ranch lands to the community we know and love today, and real estate development and allied industries have been the primary source of wealth creation.
As we move forward and as we approach build out, both here in Irvine and the region, the report recognized several key industry sectors that were poised for growth. Among those were health care and med tech innovation, enabling and creative technologies, defense tech, amongst others. Over the last twelve to eighteen months, to augment some of the work that was done through the ground up study, we conducted some pretty extensive outreach to the entrepreneur community, sole proprietors, small businesses, and some of the corporate leaders here in town. That work provided another level of detail, some on the ground specifics with regard to challenges and opportunities our business community is facing. And the study elicited a series of what they called innovation economy levers, or next steps that we could take based on the findings of the report.
But there were two key takeaways that really drove the blueprint. One was the fact that there are resources out there, but they're disjointed, they're tough to access, and they're tough to navigate, particularly for entrepreneurs and small businesses who are subject matter experts in their particular line of work, but not in starting new businesses. And then second, the fact that the city, a public agency without profit motivation and really motivated by long term local and regional economic growth is uniquely positioned to take a leadership role, to align those resources to bring together the service providers and economic developers in Orange County and in the city of Irvine that can provide resources to businesses that want to locate in Irvine or expand in Irvine. With that, I'm going to hand over to Dave Caffaro, the CEO of the Irvine Chamber. Dave and the Chamber have been a great collaborator with us over the two years and the work that we've done and in putting the blueprint together dave's going to speak really briefly into the report and and some of the background from his perspective and then carron will walk us through the remainder of the brief powerpoint and highlight the actions that are recommended for you tonight.
Thank you, Pete, and good evening. So this is where we shift from analysis to action. And as Pete mentioned, we've done a lot of work analyzing things over the past year plus. We've got a really clear picture of where we are today in terms of the overall ecosystem and where we've invested the past year plus in defining where we believe we can go to help shape the next chapter of our economy. And this is the time that we need to do it.
Our vision is clear, and you can see it on the slide in front of me. Our goal is to position Irvine as a globally recognized innovation hub where cutting edge industries, visionary entrepreneurs, and highly skilled workforce converge creating transformative economic opportunities, sustainable prosperity, and an unparalleled quality of life. That's what success looks like. And the mission is clear as well that we want to create a thriving future ready economy where innovation sustainability inclusivity drive transformative opportunities for Irvine residents and businesses that's how we create the future our mission is to create a thriving future economy and with this is our definition of success we have a set of supporting priorities and goals to help us get there we also recognize that we are competing with other cities California, in the country, and in the world. Things are different post COVID.
It's so easy for businesses to relocate or to work virtually. So we can't be lulled into believing that we don't have to build on our strengths to attract, recruit, and retain businesses here. We've got to be very focused. So the goals and objectives that Karen will share are designed to help us first and foremost lower barriers to entry, make it easier for entrepreneurs to start new businesses here, and also to help promote Irvine as a place where people can relocate existing companies we want to attract businesses from all over the world here and finally to make a compelling case for existing businesses and talent to stay here We are competing with the world and we want to keep the businesses here. So with that, Karen let me turn it to you.
Thank you so much Dave and Pete. Over the past year the economic development division focused on delivering immediate tangible support to Irvine businesses and our community. Staff supported more than 300 businesses through conferences, clinics, business forums, pitch competitions, and mobile unit engagements of the county, reaching companies across industries and across various stages of growth. We launched new tools to improve access to city information and completed the most comprehensive community development customer survey to date. This helped us identify where processes are working and where opportunities and improvements were needed.
Those insights led to the pilot of the Irvine Navigator Program, a concierge style service to help businesses navigate city regulatory processes more efficiently. We also just secured $105,000 grant to expand the pilot program. Through our analysis and stakeholder engagements, it's become very clear that Irvine needed a coordinated long term economic development strategy rather than a series of isolated efforts. That work resulted in the economic development division blueprint ahead of you, which provides a clear roadmap for the next two years. In step with the blueprint, we also began building the capacity to implement it.
Key milestones included hiring May, City of Irvine's first Director of Economic Development, and establishing a dedicated leadership and accountability, and formalizing a partnership with the Greater Irvine Chamber of Commerce to strengthen public private collaboration and business engagement. The blueprint is really organized around four priority goals. Goal number one, building high performing economic development infrastructure internally. This means making it easier for businesses to get answers, data and decisions without being bounced between departments and organizations. Goal number two is strengthened innovation and entrepreneurial ecosystem.
This is really helping ideas turn into companies. For example, engineer that works at Edwards Lifesciences has their own transformational idea. They need to be able to find early support in a space to launch and grow here in Irvine. Goal three, business attraction, retention, and helping businesses expand. This includes streamlining our businesses licensing and permitting to help existing companies grow whether that's a global employer or a local manufacturer adding a new production line.
Goal number four elevating Irvine's brand and inclusive opportunities. This means telling Irvine's innovation story more effectively and ensuring opportunity extends beyond tech because when high wage jobs grow the entire local economy benefits. Again this isn't about creating new programs it's about aligning with trusted partners in our community reducing duplication of efforts and maximizing impact. Pursuant to a recently executed funding agreement the city is coordinating closely with the chamber of commerce on key blueprint initiatives which are highlighted in green on this slide. This partnership allows city staff to focus on strategy and coordination while leveraging the chamber's boots on the ground network and execution capacity to accomplish the selected goals.
Now I'd like to introduce the Irvine Center of Innovation and Entrepreneurship. The Irvine Center of Innovation and Entrepreneurship is not a side initiative or a standalone project. It's a central pillar of how the blueprint moves from strategy to action. During our outreach throughout 2024 and 2025, two challenges came up repeatedly, regardless of industry or company size. First, resources are fragmented.
Entrepreneurs and business owners told us they don't know where to start, they don't know who to call at first, or how to navigate this system, whether they're launching a startup, opening a restaurant, expanding an existing business, or trying to access capital. Second, access to early stage capital and coordinated support is very limited. Promising ideas are leaving Irvine not because they want to, but because they have to because the support system they need exists elsewhere. The center is designed to address these two gaps by serving as a single front door coordinating services, partners and programs that already exist and filling critical gaps where they don't. Just as importantly the center is not only about innovation in narrow sense it supports our tech and non tech businesses alike strengthening our broader economy, and helps ensure that growth in high wage jobs translates into opportunity across the community.
With that context, I'll walk you through what the center is, how it works in practice, and why it's such a critical implementation tool for this blueprint. The center will serve as the city's oh sorry, it's already to establish the Irvine Center and Center of Innovation and Entrepreneurship, staff needs city council authorization to take several next steps which include one initiating MOU negotiations with key partners, including the Orange County Inland Empire SBDC Small Business Development Center, to support colocation, coordinated service delivery, and referral pipelines at the center Two, proceed with issuance of an RFP to firms shortlisted through the RFQ process and return to City Council with a recommended accelerator operator and contract award for consideration. Accelerators are globally recognized firms that make a small pre seed equity investment in a company and trade for equity. This currently does not exist in our ecosystem right now. Three, initiate sponsorship and fundraising activities and pursue additional revenue streams to support build out programming and operations of the center.
Four, evaluate and advance real estate options for the center and return to City Council with the site recommendation and proposed lease terms. In the coming months we'll return to city council with a business plan and final contracts for consideration. Staff is requesting city council authorization to proceed with these recommended actions, implement the economic development division blueprint and proceed with activities outlined for 2026 to 2028 and initiate the next steps to establish the foundation for the center of innovation and entrepreneurship Thank
Thank you for the presentation. I'm sorry I had to be out of the room and missed your presentation. Mr. Dave Caffaro, I think at this point we'd like to open it up to questions or comments. Let me just say that before I recognize councilmember carol, let me just say that I think what staff is recommending makes all the sense in the world we are at such a remarkable stage of our city' development including its business development economic development it's difficult to not come away with that conclusion when you compare us with the struggling in so many other cities.
I think, too, we're at a point where, with the new and invigorated chamber of commerce leadership, that I'm guessing the next fifty five years the city's been here fifty five years as a municipality. But I'm guessing the next fifty five years are going to be just amazing. I'll just add one general thought. I'm glad this center will be for innovation and entrepreneurship. There's kind of a tendency now, everybody's interested in the whiz bang technologies and AI and everything else, and of course the opportunities there are extraordinary.
But kind of old fashioned entrepreneurship for the kinds of businesses that may not be as exciting but are essential to the success of a community. I'm sure my counsel colleagues here, as I do, for many, many people who say they just wish that the struggling small businesses could do better in Irvine. Independent, struggling small businesses, mostly in retail realm. I know that, because we've talked a little bit about this before, I know that this is part of the blueprint, and I'm glad it is. And I'm prepared to move ahead along the lines recommended by you here.
But let me turn to my colleagues for their comments and questions. Councilmember Carroll, and then Councilmember Mai.
Great. Thank you, Mayor, and thank you very much for the presentation. I guess I have a few questions. The first would be, what is this expected to cost?
Councilmember Carroll, happy to answer the question. Are you referring to the innovation center itself?
I guess the whole yeah, to begin with, yeah. There are other pieces I would to know about that, too.
Yeah. The blueprint, generally speaking, is an effort that is put forward by the city's economic development staff that's already in house. There is a modest ongoing budget for this year and again for next year the innovation itself is a separate larger investment in physical space to bring these partners together under one roof we're in the throes of the business plan process right now and that would be something we would bring back probably in the next ninety days prior to execution of any of the contracts.
Can you give me an idea of just a preview of what we would be?
Early estimates, if you look at tenant improvements, you look at fitting the space out, you look at early lease obligations, it's in the 2,000,000 to $3,000,000 range. We think, based on preliminary conversations, that there is a lot of community and business community interest in sponsoring this. We're confident that we can defray most, if not all, of those costs through sponsorship and partnership. But we'll bring more detail back on that in short order.
Okay. So just to get a sense, so 2,000,000 to $3,000,000 And then to the extent that we're not able to fill cost, the 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 outside non city resources would that then be a request for us to where would the funds come from the city's general taxpayer fund?
There's variety of sources there's some cip dollars already allocated for just the physical improvements the tenant improvements. I think partnership with the sbdc for instance as Karen mentioned they're bringing $2,000,000 worth of annual services into the center at no cost. To answer your question we don' anticipate a scenario where there' a significant shortfall but to the extent there was we would try create a reasonable ask for city investment alongside the private sector.
Great. Thanks a lot look forward to hearing from it, hearing about it and hearing about you know the details of it and of course the investment you know, required. You know, hopefully it sounds like most of the money, if not all of it, will be come from outside sponsors, and that sounds like a, you know, great opportunity for us to be the facilitator for something of this amazing magnitude. So, I look forward to hearing more and glad to hear some of it's already paid to the extent possibly already budgeted. That's good to know. Thanks very much. Thank you, Mayor.
Thank you, Councilmember Carroll, Councilmember Mai, followed by Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Karen, Pete, and Dave, for your presentations. You guys have done a wonderful job. I'm so happy that we are having this initiative here. As someone who worked in the startup angel investment space with tech coast angels and a number of other groups there's been such an interest in this sector and for something like this I would say the past twenty years and this is just an exciting time there's always been guess even a thirst for government to get involved in a way like this to build a center and I think it's going to be a wonderful way of driving revenue to the city bringing businesses to the city. I myself over the past year have been meeting with businesses from international business to the local business trying to bring them to our city and this if we could showcase something like this to a lot of startups and to companies that are looking to to grow and tap into the the talent pool that we have in Irvine and have something to showcase like this.
This is going to be wonderful. I've also met with a number of investors or philanthropists that are in the tech space, and they are ready to go. They're ready to help fund this. I think $1 to $2,000,000 is even very modest to some of these guys, and they're ready to sponsor and donate. So, I'm excited to see this happen for the city. We're truly a city of innovation, technology, medtech, biotech. We' the place to be and it' going to be great to have you guys all working on this and have this for our city we' to really showcase to the world what we' capable of thank you.
Thank you councilmember mi councilmember martinez franco.
Thank you. Well, I wanted to thank you for all the work that you're doing for someone who is a business owner. And I've been so deeply embedded in the business community in Orange County and LA County, and a little bit on the Inland Empire. I think it's a great decision that you are partnering with the SBDC. I've been taking advantage of all their workshops.
And everything that they offer is fantastic. So if you want someone to vouch for them, I learned a lot of my skills as a business owner from them. But also from the chambers and the Irvine chamber, I know that has done such a great job. So I'm happy that you're looking for partners to do these because definitely we cannot do this all alone. It has to be a community involved.
And I know a lot of business owners that are still struggling. So this is going to be a game changer for them. Also for bigger companies, start reaching out to them so they don't leave the city of Irvine. And they keep on investing in our city. I think that's also going to be good establishing those relationships with them. Thank you.
Thank you councilmember Martinez Franco. With that, a motion would be in order.
Mr. Mayor, if I may, there are requests to speak on this item.
I'm sorry, Who is it's not showing up here. Oh, you have some
public No,
we I just want to let you know we do have members of the public who wish to speak on
Forgive this me. Yes. How many requests do we have? We have seven in
person and one on Zoom.
All right. Let's see how we do with a ninety second limit. If somebody needs just a little more time, I'll be happy to grant it. But at this late hour, I think we want to move through these as quickly as we can. Go ahead.
Thank you, mayor. If I could call forward Jim Mayfield, Scott Fox, Mike Merchant, Jasmine P, and Sid Rahmani. Thank you. We'll go ahead and call forward to Scott Johnson and Mike Daniel. And we'll start with Mr. Mayfield.
Welcome.
Mayor, council members, my name is Jim Mayfield. And I just wanted to say, really, in the interest of time, congratulations to the economic team. It's been a long time coming. I've been working at the intersection of government, private sector, and economic development in Orange County for twelve years. I'm an Irvine resident, and I'm now a small business owner, and this is the right time, and I really appreciate all the work that's gone into it, especially the partners like the OCS OCIE SBDC, the Irvine Chamber, and all of the stakeholders. So, well done, and really appreciate all of your work. Thank you.
Thank you. Sounds like we've been looking for you, so I hope you're going to stay in touch.
Most definitely.
Thank you.
Scott Fox.
Welcome.
Thanks very much. I'm Scott Fox. I'm the CEO of the Orange County Startup Council. I'm also a local angel investor and serial internet entrepreneur. I'm the kind of guy that you want to move here.
I've been spending a lot of time over the last fifteen years since I moved here organizing the local startup community, and that's because it is exactly what Karen said. It is so fragmented. It's hard for entrepreneurs and investors, even those of us with resources and connections, to find anybody. My organization has been doing that out of my own pocket and supported by local law firms banks and nonprofit foundations have all been contributing to our work for years and we're big supporters of what they're doing here been involved worked with Karen in previous incarnations, as well as Dave with the chamber. We have thousands of, we are the number one source for early stage tech and med tech startup information.
We have a newsletter. If you guys aren't reading it, you should be. It's free. And we are the only news source covering this scene, and we are here to amplify the signal that does exist. There's a lot of latent entrepreneurship that's hidden in nooks and crannies around the community, and this is the sort of focal point that we need to support and cohere and convene those groups and build that community so that we can move everybody forward. So, I'm here as a personal, both as an investor and as a serial founder and as a community organizer, all of those things. And, if we at the Orange County Startup Council can be helpful to this effort, we're here. That's why I sat here for three hours for that ninety seconds. So, thanks very much. It's good to meet you all. Hope to work more with you in the future.
Thank you. And, let me see. You used your ninety seconds very well. Jasmine.
Hi. Good evening, everyone. My name is Jasmine Pachananda. I am a City Of Irvine resident, and I am chief operating officer of an organization called CEO Leadership Alliance Orange County. And we are a nonprofit here, a consortium of business leaders of companies across Orange County.
Of course, many of those companies who are part of our consortium are based here in Orange County, including some of the largest companies like Edwards, Medtronic, Deloitte. We also represent medium sized companies and startups who would greatly benefit from this particular initiative, but from the economic blueprint as a whole. As a consortium, we are focused on building the talent needed to maintain Irvine and Orange County's momentum as an innovation ecosystem and an innovation attractor. This is one piece of what needs to happen. So we're really excited to be supporters here.
We also work across the country with similar organizations like CLAOC, so other groups of business leaders across. And they always ask us, who is the economic development agency in Orange County? And, of course, there isn't one. We all there's many of us playing a different part of this, but we really look forward to working with the city of Irvine to coordinate efforts and ensure that companies are coming here, innovators build their businesses here, and ultimately that the talent that is here in Orange County and in Irvine stay and thrive
Thank you.
Your time is up. So thank you very much.
Thank you. Appreciate your comments. Sid Ramani. Welcome.
Thank you. Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Sid Ramani, and I'm here representing the Irvine Hotel community to voice our strong support for the economic development division blueprint and the creation of the Irvine Center of Innovation and Entrepreneurship. I'll keep this very brief. I've spoken with the hotel community leaders and we are ready to support this vision.
We're committed to to welcoming new businesses, hosting delegations and investors, and showcasing the exceptional quality of life that makes Irvine unique. On behalf of the entire hotel community, we urge you to move this initiative forward. It strengthens the economy, supports our residents, and helps ensure that Irvine remains a global leader in innovation and a vibrant destination for business and travel. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments. You so much.
John Johnson.
Welcome.
Good evening, counsel. My name is Scott Johnson. I'm CEO of Orange Tree, a medical device nonprofit focused exclusively on the medical device industry here in Orange County. I've been in the med tech industry for years now. And having overseen ten years of being in the industry, having spoken with 175 CEOs over the course of that time, I have asked them what continuous challenges are preventing them from moving forward, and there is a thread to their answer.
And what really surprises me is that even though the industry is making $20,000,000,000 in economic output as of this year, forgive me, to 2025, with the two fifty companies, we still have one problem. And if we look at the element that's been missing in our community where the evidence of its impact and other hubs around The U. S, Austin, Boston, including Minneapolis, it is an innovation center. With respect to our sector not being optimized for this future growth, it's a huge missing component to ensure medtech is sustainable growth and ensuring especially on the wave of a global AI revolution. Let's build, invest, and lead, and I encourage you to vote and move for this economic development agenda for tonight.
Your commitment means jobs, health, progress, but most important, it means keeping Irvine the beating heart of Orange County's future as a global med tech center and a potential $25,000,000,000 industry within five years. Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you for your comments. Mike Daniel. Welcome.
Thank you. Good evening, mayor and city council. Thank you so much for allowing me to say a couple words. I'm the network director for the Orange County in the empire spdc that acronym you keep seeing up there but we just so little insight of who we are we're a team of 150 business owners and business experts that offer one on one consulting and training to people that start and grow their business as simple as that we're funded by the federal government to the small business administration also receive funding from the governor's office at the state of California and we're hosted at cal state Fullerton we have three locations in Irvine already and we've done a lot of events this past year in partnership with the city of irvine and city manager office and economic development we did an access to capital conference for traditional business restaurant retail hospitality trying to find capital that's 50,000 to 100,000 that's affordable we also did a pitch event in December where we had two winners in the medical device and technology arenas both receiving $5,000 we think this is a great opportunity for us to partner with the city and bring some of our resources Currently we have three centers that are focused in Irvine focused on startup focused on growth and a lot of it is restaurant retail hospitality and we also have a complete tech side of what we do and technology side helping businesses really at that early stage from ideation to feasibility, and figuring out, do I have something that I could go out and get capital for?
And we also have a small business innovation researcher, SBIR, component to what we do. Quickly, we saw a little more than 15,000 businesses last year and did about 45,000
Thank you. Time is up. One on one You can finish up. Take a few Yeah.
Did about forty five thousand hours of one on one consulting. We helped those businesses access a little over $200,000,000 We did about 600 training events like the training events that you're talking about throughout our region. So, we're excited about this partnership or potential partnership, and we want to be able to provide some of our resources to the city as well. So, thank you.
Well, you. Thank you very much for your comments. Do we have any remote participants?
One via Zoom.
All right.
Our next speaker is Nafari. You may unmute your mic.
Thank you very much. Thank you, mayor Agron and the city council members and to the outstanding team at the city's economic development program. My name is Sandina Fari, and I have the absolute privilege of serving at Reedy Children's Health, University of California, Irvine, and I also serve in the FDA PDC consortium commercializing children's medical devices. We are all in support and encourage you to vote and to move forward with an Irvine Center for Innovation, Entrepreneurship, and Research. I spoke to a few of my colleagues today who you may have received emails from, Doctor.
Hanak, Doctor. Teraman, Doctor. Chogle, our physician entrepreneurs who are eager to commercialize devices across the lifespan. By creating this Irvine Innovation and Entrepreneurship Hub, we can generate high quality jobs across the spectrum, research innovation support staff, data scientists, engineers, statisticians that really understand pediatrics to adult devices. We can train up regulatory affairs professionals, quality assurance, and the operational talent, clinical trial coordination coordinators as well, and device trial experts specializing in these multicenter trials really across the state with Irvine serving as the center.
This is the knowledge economy and these positions that need to build a sustainable
Thank you. Your time is up. And that is all mayor.
Thank you thank you all for some very compelling articulate testimony we appreciate it. What would you like us to do?
Mayor we' happy to answer any additional questions if you have them otherwise the recommended actions are before you and we' ready when you are.
There are. Councilmember Carroll do you have a question or comment? Followed by councilmember mye.
Thank you mayor. Just want to say great presentation on behalf of staff. The public comment, really appreciated it. I think it rang true for me. There's sort of three many more, but certainly three of the key kind of core industry sectors in our great city, that being the hotel community. It was great to hear from you, Sid. Thank you. On behalf of that medical devices, I mean, I have med device clients based in Irvine. Our medical device profile is really if it's not eclipsed North San Diego, we certainly rival it. I'm sure our chamber CEO could speak to the med device piece.
And then, of course, hospitality, restauranting hospitality. And that's just three sectors that can really benefit from an incredible center like this. I would go ahead and just make a motion and move both of staff's recommended items.
I'll second that.
And thank you, mayor.
And we'll turn to councilmember mi oh, I'm sorry, councilmember lu.
Thank you, mayor. I don't have a question, but I have a quick comment. In the last year that I've been on council, I've met with a lot of the ethnic chambers who are also interested. Thank you to Mr. Caffaro for being willing to include everybody in the discussion.
As a former SBA attorney, I realize how many small businesses are just missing that information. And thank you for streamlining everything and putting it all in one packet so everyone has that one contact point to get all the information. And I want to say that we are very lucky to have Karen, who's extremely experienced. And I've sat in a few meetings with you with business or representatives from business community, from even outside of the Irvine community, or even outside of the country. And she's very knowledgeable. So thank you for doing all this. I'm looking forward to having more business development in the city.
Thank you. I see no further requests from my colleagues to be heard. Let me just express my support for the motion. But more important, my sense that we're on the verge of doing something very, very important here. And I want to thank you, Karen, for your work.
And Pete, you've been a real driving force on all of this quiet, but nevertheless a driving force behind the scenes in trying to anticipate how we can best grow economically. And I'm excited to see what comes of all this. So there is a motion that is properly before us now. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carole. Yes. Councilmember Goh. Yes. Councilmember Liu. Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Yes. Councilmember Trusieder.
Vice Mayor Mai. Yes. Mayor Agram. Yes. Carries seven-zero.
Vote of confidence onward. Thank you. All right that concludes that item. Taking us now to item is it 3.3? Or did we add it and it becomes a different number?
It's 3.3. All right. Will the clerk please identify this item by subject and title.
Thank you, mayor. Item 3.3 is Independence Day celebration update.
All right. We have staff here. And with that, introduce yourself and anybody who's assisting you as well. And thank you for being so patient.
Good evening, Marin City Council. It's just me tonight. My name is Melissa Haley, director of communications and engagement. Tonight, I'll provide an update on the planning for the twenty twenty six Independence Day celebration and outline some considerations. As part of the ongoing planning efforts for the twenty twenty six Independence Day celebrations, staff presented potential event concepts, public safety requirements, logistical considerations, to the respective commissions in the City Council in November and December 2025.
As a brief recap in November both the finance commission and the community and library services commission reviewed independence day planning and budget considerations. At the November 12 meeting, the City Council approved the Finance Commission's $600,000 event recommendation, but also directed staff to return at a future meeting with an analysis of costs and operational considerations associated with hosting a celebration on either July 3 or July 4. Staff returned on December 9 to present considerations, planning, and logistics for an event at the Great Park and recommended hosting the celebration on July 3 to support efficiency and cost savings. The city council directed staff to suspend exploration of holding an independence day celebration on July '4 at the Great Park and returned to the City Council in January with alternatives that could be delivered within a $250,000 budget. As a brief reminder, the approved budget for the 2025 event was $250,000 As part of that direction, staff evaluated multiple large and small scale options and the feasibility of each, including combining Independence Day with Cicola Irvine.
The Cicola Irvine concept was explored as it already includes planned street closures, traffic management, staffing, and public safety coordination, which are significant cost drivers for large scale events. With these efficiencies, staff could maximize available resources, planning efforts, and staffing to deliver a combined community event. Considerations made by staff that were included in the staff report were community experience, fiscal responsibility, and event growth and awareness. As planning for this event has continued within a limited planning window, staff have identified several operational challenges that were not fully known when the staff report was prepared. These challenges are largely related to traffic management availability, scheduling constraints, and increased regional demand associated with July 4 holiday and respective planning efforts.
The specialized traffic management vendor that supports Sickle Irvine is not available for the July 4 time frame, and other vendors offering similar services have limited availability. As one might know, there are many five and ten ks races that are supported by long term traffic management companies. Cyclo Irvine requires a traffic management company to support an approximately 1.5 mile road closure, including the provision of meridian barriers, K rails, traffic soft horses related equipment and resources. Given that limited availability of vendors there are concerns surrounding route evaluation securing a street location and completing the necessary traffic closure plan in a time sensitive manner. This information is being shared to provide the most current and complete understanding of operational considerations in combining these two events.
Should the council direct staff to continue the advanced planning of a combined event or any event at all, staff will need to immediately source vendors, As shared with the limited vendor availability, they would need to be retained as soon as possible. We have started reaching out since November to try and learn, and many are booked. That includes traffic management, entertainment, and production. If we were able to secure a traffic management vendor and source them, our routes would likely be deeply impacted and not aligned with a 1.5 mile route as Irvine has had in its previous two years. Many of the preferred performers are already booked, as mentioned, limiting access to the quality entertainment options available to staff.
And we would also need to secure ground transportation and planning and evaluate those options to support attendance regardless of a location. Sponsorship and revenue opportunities would need to be finalized, as we have not finalized a plan to put forth in front of our sponsors to date. The original recommended action was submitted at the time of the agenda publication seven days ago. Since that time, staff have become aware of the additional considerations, demand, and competition. In light of the level of community interest, the status of the approved level of funding, and the timing factors, staff are now recommending deferring the item to allow for reevaluation and proceed with Cicola Irvine on the scheduled date of May 2.
This concludes my presentation, and I'm available for any questions you have.
Thank you. Let me begin the questioning by asking, is the planning on schedule for the May 5 sicko Irvine? Is that planning going well at this point?
Yes, it has. We have been planning that event as scheduled May 2 up until the previous meeting
in the May 2 is it?
May 2, correct.
G. All right.
Up until the previous meeting we had in December where staff tried to pivot to create an alternative selection, we do have planned. We have been meeting with stakeholders along the route and would like to continue that route. If we shift, we would need to move that route location. But for May 2, we've been planning and proceeding as normal.
All right. And everything's
Everything is fine.
Is fine. All right.
Might add in, Mayor. The vendors, the difficulty with locking down the vendors that we're experiencing for fourth of July doesn't apply to May 2. So we're able to secure support services.
As mentioned, there are at least eight, five to 10 Ks that have a very deep rooted history in the area, not just Irvine. And there is a big competition for those vendors to shut down streets and provide those resources. So it's not even the company. Additionally, it's the K rails, sawhorses, and other resources that help close the streets.
Let me just put out there where I think this is headed. The Sick Hall Irvine event in May, it seems to me we would want to this would be its third year we would want to go ahead with that proceeding as normal, have that event. And that's budgeted already.
Correct.
As regards the Independence Day event, it seems to me we should just recognize that we're not really going to have a major Independence Day event In addition to part from the pacific symphony scheduled event, the associated fireworks display, all that is going going forward. Is that correct?
Correct.
It seems to me also that for July 4 at the Great Park, we could easily schedule just a few enhancements of what's another day at the park. We might want to add to the fireworks resources that are going to be on display as a result of Pacific Symphony. But beyond that, not really do anything. I think this is where that is headed. We did purchase two fifty flags, didn't we, at some point, two fifty American flags?
Correct. That was a separate motion. That would be public works and staff are doing cross collaboration to install the two fifty flags and then create a campaign around that.
And where are they going to be installed?
Varying locations in the city, Great Park, Front Lawn here at City Hall, that falls in line with our Field of Valor program.
Right. Which seems to me to be a nice choice that we've made. Those flags, think, will add to the festivities. But beyond that, I don't think this is going anywhere. That's kind of my read on it.
If my colleagues disagree, if staff disagrees, please say so. Otherwise, I think we just acknowledge that and move on. I don't think that combining, by the way, of the Syklo Irvine and the fourth of July event, I get a little nervous about all that. I just want to make sure we have a fourth of July that is appropriately celebratory, that we don't bend and even break our staff in the process, and that we certainly don't have anything resembling the kinds of problems that we had on the last July 4 when, frankly, we tried to do too much with too little. That's my view.
Councilmember mye.
Thank you mayor. I said earlier tonight and I just wanted to address you Melissa and your team. Thank you for doing your best and trying to work with us and the many personalities up on the dice here and I'm sorry that we couldn't get our stuff together. But, I know you guys were pivoting and turning, calling late nights. We were texting, were trying to get vendors, combining things, putting things together. It takes a lot of work, and it's really appreciative. And I apologize that you had to jump through the hoops for us and end up at this juncture. But thank you for working on this and your entire team.
Thank you councilmember mye. Any others? Do you need specific direction city manager Crumby, or can we let you and staff take it from here?
I think I'm seeing consensus that we're not going to host an event this year, and so we'll proceed in that fashion. And if I could just add in thank you to Melissa and your team for all the incredible work that you did.
All right. Did you need anything, Mr. Melchin?
I have a couple of public comments.
Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Shortcuts here. Mr. Peterson, would you tell us how many commenters we have? Thank you, mayor. We have
six requests to speak, three in person. Six.
Let's try and encourage them to speak to us for ninety seconds each. If they need a few more seconds beyond that, I'll be happy to grant it. All right?
Thank you, mayor. If I could call forward Susan Sayer, Allen Meyerson, and Austin Wagner. And we'll start with Susan Sayer.
Welcome, Ms. Sayer.
Yeah, hi again.
My name's Susan Sayer, and I'm an Irvine resident since 1981. I'm opposed to spending hundreds of thousands dollars on the twenty twenty six independence celebration honoring the birth of our nation when Our United States is no longer the democratic nation that was created for the benefit of we the people. And instead of celebrating the birth of our nation, I will be mourning its loss, the loss of our democracy that was created to support all people located within our country's boundaries. I mourn the fact that we have become a nation which now directs its energies and financial resources to suppressing the will of the people and conquering and controlling other countries rather than supporting our people, our infrastructure, and our environment. Instead, I request that we celebrate the birth of our nation by directing that the money be used for support services created to meet the many needs we the people such as providing affordable housing child care school and senior meals health care including both medical care and counseling services our infrastructure including irvine connect another transportation services and environmental protection program many of these programs which our current administration has cut funding for and I just want to mention I do
I think your time
is raise up. Financing the Cycle of Irvine event, which is designed to celebrate the city of Irvine, because I celebrate Irvine. Thank you.
Thank you.
Alan Meyerson.
Welcome.
Good evening again councilmembers Alan Meyerson. I just wanted to say a couple of things. First I'm glad the city is not spending $650,000 or $600,000 on this. Think that's a wise choice. Another thing I wanted to say was since sick little Irvine is going to still go on I'm not sure why we can't celebrate two fifty years with some signs or some small things we can recognize during sickler Irvine.
Nothing stops us from doing something like that. And, I also wanted to say to the vice mayor, I appreciate what you wanted to do last I'm sorry it didn't turn out the way we would have liked. I appreciate you wanting to do something this year. But, I don't think we need to blame anybody stating that people are playing politics. I don't think that's helped anything helps anything. I think when you sit on the dais and you have ideas, sometimes they're going to work out. Sometimes they're not going to work out. It's not necessarily anyone's fault. It's just the way it goes sometimes. You don't always get what you want. You can't please everybody all the time. Thank you.
Thank you. Austin Wagner. Welcome.
Hello, my name is Austin Wagner. Thank you for having me. I guess I'm not really sure how necessary my commentary is on this, as it seems like we're going forward with the Cyclo Irvine, but I guess going forward I really would like a little maybe more protections for sick low Irvine I think it's a really great event I think it really resonates with a
lot of our values that
we have in Irvine for sustainable transportation and even the innovation that it was created and supported by dedicated members of Irvine here students and people who actually live in Irvine kind of came up with the idea and presented it and through that was actually able to start this wonderful event which I really like and enjoy so I think sickle of Irvine overall is a great event I hope it kind of stays as a standalone event I think it really brings a lot of value and it's a lot of fun too a great event for us overall. With regard to the Great Park, this is kind of unrelated in a way, but Google Maps tends to route people to the Southern exit. I noticed that it really backs up a long Marine way, but you may be able to contact Google Maps and request that there's some sort of like dispersion that allows people to go through that northern exit. Because that northern exit is usually very open. I'm sure you guys kind of deal with a of the traffic stuff there on your own, too.
And you know more about that than me. But that was something I noticed, something I brought up, and something that kind of helped me leave like the events at the Great Park in a nice, kind of easier fashion. But yeah, thank you very much.
Well thank you for that intelligence, the observation. Did somebody jot that down? That the northern exit might be emphasized to beneficial effect? Okay. Will do. Good.
Next. Our next speaker is Doug Elliot. Mr. Elliot, you may unmute your mic.
Thank you. I'm Doug Elliott, commissioner, speaking only for myself. I support sickler ryeing continuing in early May, which is the best weather for the event. As for Independence Day, let's think outside the box a little bit. Plan A didn't work.
It doesn't mean we have to do nothing. How about thinking of a small scale event like we do on Veterans Day that can appropriately honor the historic occasion without spending a lot of money, without needing vendors or traffic control or anything, Just a dignified, patriotic presentation could be done for a few thousand dollars at most with local talent available in the community. And I think the implication signaled what needs to be done. Honor the declaration, honor the anniversary, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, and we could do that. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Jay Bruce. Jay, you may unmute your mic.
Hello, city council members. I was thinking, you know, with this kind of following clear with clear of my idea. I've you know, this is an idea my idea from the start, but I've always thought that after what happened last year, we should be spending that $250,000 or whatever, like, city council wants supporting multiple small events in each village and not one central location. I mean, I mentioned this before, but, you know, the fireworks show that's been held at Irvine High School by the Irvine Police Association prior to COVID. That was always a good experience.
You know, traffic wise, it's more manageable because people could watch from outside Irvine High School and, like, in the fields at Heritage in Orchard Park. And I think, you know, how supporting those, like, multiple smaller, you know, dispersed celebrations throughout Irvine would help keep it Irvine centric, you know, keeping the numbers down a little and not have people coming in from outside the city. And I think it'd also be good because each event could have different focuses. Like, we could have, you know, the fireworks show at Irvine High School. We could also have things like, you know, Doug Elliot's idea of that sort of, like, tower hall focusing on modern issues and focusing on the promises and the Declaration of Independence.
I think that's the way we can move forward, just smaller events throughout the city.
Our next speaker is telephone number 347. 347, you may unmute your mic.
Yes. This is Deepak. Bingo, the last caller hit it right on the head. Woodridge Village Association, for example, they put on a great fireworks display every year. It's fantastic. I don't see why these other homeowners associations don't contribute and put it on to their people in their communities. And I do remember when high school used to put on a fireworks display. Irvine would have it at various high schools throughout all of Irvine. It wasn't just at one place. So that's a really good idea is to maybe the city can contribute a little bit. They don't have to contribute a lot. Homeowners associations can't afford to put on a fireworks display. Anyway, it's just a thought. And if we're going to do anything, better start now. Thanks.
And that is all mayor.
Thank you. That concludes our public comment. I don't think we need a formal motion do we staff kind of clear on where this is going?
I think we're hearing that there's consensus and we're going to move forward without the large scale event.
And then report to us how you're proceeding, and obviously along the way if there's need or desire to bring it back to the council for public discussion.
If there's need, we'll bring it back.
You'll do that. Excellent. All right. I think we've concluded. Oh, I'm sorry. Councilmember Martinez Franco. Thank you.
Hi. Yeah. Thank you so much for trying. I just have a question. That money, where is it going to go back to?
So the money lies within our currently approved budget. And any unspent budget, which in this case would be all of it, would be returned to the sources that came from, namely the general fund, at the end of the budget cycle.
Okay, thank you.
Excellent. That concludes this item. Item 3.4, would the clerk please identify this item by
subject? Consideration of a request by Vice Mayor Mike to discuss a municipal columbarium at the Great Park.
Very well. We'll turn to councilmember Mai at this time. Did you wish to introduce this item, councilmember Mai?
Yes, absolutely. Thank you mayor. Let's not put that up yet I'm going to talk a little bit and then thank you. Alright so this item has been reintroduced as a compromise solution. The item is brought forward again to find a balanced, workable option that honors longstanding community desires while addressing resident concerns after years of debate over a full veteran cemetery at the Great Park.
A municipal columbarium, not a veterans cemetery. The proposal is for a city run columbarium, a compact above ground structure for ERNs. Open primarily to Irvine residents, not a veterans VA approved or full scale veterans cemetery. Ensuring it complements rather than competes with Gypsum Canyon Veterans Cemetery. I also want to thank Mayor Egren for his work on this, as well as the original idea of a columbarium.
Priority access for key groups. Priority of this columbarium would be given to veterans who served at El Toro alongside eligible Irvine residents with strong community ties or minimum residency requirements, providing meaningful recognition on historically significant ground. Alternative funding to protect residents. Funding would be pursued through private donations, volunteer programs, or any other non city sources. Ensuring Great Park residents special taxes are not used avoiding any additional burden on local homeowners.
I want to be clear that this is no interference with Gypsum Canyons Veteran's Cemetery. This municipal facility will not replace or conflict with the planned state backed veterans cemetery in Gypsum Canyon which remains fully supportive as Orange County' primary veteran cemetery option. Directing staff to study feasible sites in all areas of Irvine with the exception of the artist site, exploring funding models, and gathering community input represents a responsible, inclusive step to deliver on honoring veterans and residents without the challenges of past proposals. Upon talking to many residents and many individuals in the community, I originally had wrote this memo with a motion on it. I'd like the revised motion that I'm going to propose here placed on the screen, and I'm going to read it as well.
My motion for this agenda item is to direct the city manager and appropriate city staff to develop a comprehensive plan for Irvine's first and only municipal columbarium. Evaluate and identify one or more suitable locations within the city of Irvine that minimizes that minimize impacts to existing residential neighborhoods and community uses with priority given to sites of historical relevance including but not limited to Bill Barber Memorial Park, Northwood Memorial Park, Cultural Terrace West, a potential location adjacent to the proposed flying Leatherneck Museum, and other appropriate sites citywide. Incorporate eligibility criteria prioritizing Irvine residents individuals with strong ties to Irvine and those who served at marine corps air station El Toro. Acknowledge community input supporting a designated appropriately cited facility away from homes clearly distinguish the municipal columbarium from a state and federally supported Gypsum Canyon Veteran Cemetery. Explicitly exclude the Arta site from consideration consistent with the city council's two prior votes against that site in the past year and returned to the city council within ninety days with proposed site options design concepts community capability considerations funding mechanisms and an implementation timeline for council consideration.
Second.
That' a motion offered by councilmember my seconded by councilmember treseder. Did you wish to say anything further or should we open it to discussion by the entire council at this time?
Let' open it to discussion.
Let me me begin the discussion. What you have proposed, including excluding the Arta site from consideration, is in fact directly contrary to existing zoning law in the city. What I would like to do is just show a few slides because there's a long history here, a lot of grief, but in the end we actually have a law in the city covering this matter. The people of the city of Irvine have voted many times. They, in 2017 and 2018, qualified a referendum for the ballot with 20,000 signatures and had a vote that ended 63% to 37% when there was an attempt by developer Five Point Communities backed by a $2,000,000 campaign to move the Veterans Memorial Park And Cemetery from the artist site to the so called Strawberry Fields or freeway site.
And that was rejected absolutely overwhelmingly in the face of a $2,000,000 campaign rejected by the people of the city of Irvine. Then there was an attempt to locate again backed by five point and then mayor shea at the time and others to move the designated location of a veterans Memorial park and cemetery as well as gardens at the Arda site, move it from there to the so called golf course site, kind of where the heart of the park is now. That in turn sparked a citizen initiative. Hundreds and hundreds of citizens gathered as volunteers 20,000 signatures to qualify this initiative petition for the ballot. The signature gathering began in 2019.
It ended in 2020, just as the pandemic was setting in. And on 05/12/2020, the City Council of the City of Irvine adopted the language of the initiative
Point of order. Mr. Melching, I believe this agenda item is talking about a municipal columbarium. What's your point? We're talking about a municipal columbarium, we're not talking about a veteran cemetery right now, or veterans cemetery at all. We I move that we don't speak about this or stay on topic here about a municipal columbarium not a veteran cemetery. Are we discussing here that's my question for Mr. Melching. Well, it's not for Mr. Melching your point of order My point of order? Sure to you, Mayor, is that we're talking about a municipal columbarium.
Yeah. A columbarium is a feature of a cemetery. You do know that don't you? And you do know that 80% of people are now using cremation and Sure. Associated
agree with you on that.
And you
do know that veteran cemeteries have columbaria.
This is not a veteran cemetery this is a municipal columbaria.
Well, you have a whole new proposal then that this has nothing to do with veterans.
It doesn't have anything to do with it gives preference to veterans it says that it does not say it's a veteran cemetery so I want to keep on the topic. So my point of order is if you don't agree upon that, I mean, we can ask the counsel colleagues and if they agree that we should continue going down this route then we should.
Well, are you asking to muzzle me so that I can't speak on this matter?
No. I would like you to speak to the topic and to the agenda item.
Are you calling my my remarks about the history
we know about the history of a veteran cemetery. This is it's not up for discussion now because we are not talking about a veteran cemetery we're talking about a municipal columbarium. I would like to discuss a municipal columbarium and a municipal site. I'm not talking about a historic site of arta or veterans or cemetery or what happened in the past I' talking about a municipal cemetery. Like to keep it on topic.
What you have done is placed on the agenda an item and now a motion that we see for the first time that speaks to what kind of accommodation for veterans and veteran cemetery use you want to see in the future. I'm trying to describe what we have now. We actually have a law now. And what you are proposing is violative of that law. Let me just explain.
There is in this initiative that was approved not just by virtue of signatures gathered but by counsel approval on 05/12/2020, there are specific provisions. Let me read in the recital, which is part of the law. The recital says, whereas the people of Irvine enact this measure can we put it on the screen now? Slide number one. Whereas the people of Irvine enact this measure to instruct the city council that the city' residents prefer to locate the Southern California Veteran Cemetery on the Arda transfer site and not at any other location in the city of Irvine.
At any other location in the city of Irvine And do so by enacting this zone change ordinance and so forth. Then, even more explicitly, slide number two, which lays out the land use and zoning at the Arda site, which is Development District 9. The language reads, and it could not be more clear, this district is the location for a veterans memorial park and cemetery. This district will be the exclusive location for a veterans cemetery. Now you're able to put on screen whatever you wish by way of a proposal.
But the particularly offensive part of what you have done is to basically say to the people of the city, regardless of the law and regardless of the will of the people, you are trying with your measure to rule out any possibility whatsoever for a veterans memorial park and cemetery at the Arta site.
I am ruling out a municipal cemetery from the Arta site explicitly I understand that it has been zoned for a veterans state funded veterans cemetery at Arta site I' asking for a municipal columbarium that is not at the Arta site and consideration for other areas within the city Not excluding other areas of the base but full consideration to other areas within the city. This will not be a veterans cemetery. That ship has sailed long ago. It is a municipal columbarium. There is a clear legal definition and difference.
People will not be able to use veteran benefits on a veteran cemetery in Irvine they will be using them at Gypsum Canyon because that' where calvet and the veteran affairs allows them to use their benefits there. This is a city run calumbarium that has preference and respects those who served on the base veterans and Irvine residents. It doesn' say you have to be a veteran to be there you can be anyone in the city.
Are you saying we can' have a municipal veteran cemetery?
I'm not asking for a municipal I know you're not asking
for it, but are you saying we can't have one?
I don't know the legal definition of that. I just know what I'm asking for, which is a municipal cemetery that gives preference to veterans.
Let me let some others comment. By the way, let me do one thing. If we could pull up slide number six. Because what I found, James, you'll probably agree with this, is that we have, many people don't know what a columbarium is. It's basically a structure for the storage of remains, funeral urns, 80% of all funerals now are cremations and associated placement of those cremains in an appropriate structure, whether it's a wall, kind of like this is, or another kind of beautifully cultured sculptured facility that is a part, incidentally, of every veteran's cemetery in The United States, at least all the modern ones.
So, your, let me just, let me just say something that's very personal about all this. Over these years, while Five Point and countless politicians one after the other have, for purposes that are really greedy and self serving have tried to destroy the idea of a veterans memorial park and cemetery in our great park. Support for that has remained overwhelming in this city from one end to the other. Overwhelming. That's been measured not just in polls, but in the vote on the initial referendum.
It is doubtless that this remains a compelling idea. And I've been approached and have relationships with dozens of widows and family members, veterans, relatives, children, who have said to me, will we ever have a Veterans Memorial Park And Cemetery out there? I say, we're definitely going to have the memorial park, and I'm going to do everything I can to see to it that we have a cemetery out there. Not now for in ground burials. That's pretty much ruled out.
I recognize the reality of Gypsum Canyon. That will be a suitable location for in ground burials, as well as columbarium burials. But for the storage of your loved ones remains, yes, we're going to find a place. We are going to find a place in the city of Irvine. And we're going to find it as soon as I and others can make that a reality.
Placing a columbarium in our Veterans Memorial Park And Cemetery can be done quickly, it can be done efficiently, at very little cost, and by the way, the fact that it's not covered 100% by burial benefits, every veteran is entitled to about $1,000 a columbarium disposition of the cremains typically runs $2,000 to $5,000 So we don't have to go out and raise money and all that. We can have we can have a Veterans Memorial Park And Columbarium at the Arda site. And of course, we'll have gardens and perhaps other features as well. We just need to follow the law. Now, as far as looking for other places and everything, you're free.
You have a staff. You're free to look into this, that, and the other. But the idea of directing our city staff to go out and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in staff time looking around here, there, and everywhere. By the way, some of the things that have been mentioned are downright crazy. The idea of putting this at the cultural terrace, it verges on crazy.
If children are supposedly offended by the specter of death associated with a cemetery, putting a columbarium at the cultural Terrace west or east will actually result in some 3,000,000 visitors a year, being proximate to the specter of death. So I think we just kind of stick with the law as it exists now. If you want to explore other possibilities and changing the law and whatever is associated with it, use some of your ample staff money. Each of us has been provided with ample staff resources to do this, not to direct our city staff, our highly paid professional staff to do it. Others wish to be heard.
Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Hi, thank you. My position with this is kind of the same that has been always. You know, my constituents that have asked me to build a veteran cemetery, to support a veteran cemetery, then a columbarium, For me, I still support these. I'm just having a hard time right now to make a decision because this item came out so quickly. I didn't have time to go and knock on the doors of my neighbors, my friends, and ask them if they were okay with that, if they still wanted their parents' sashes to be buried in a different site than was promised before, and now it's moving again.
I've been living here for so long, and I've been following this item as well. And I know that when you promise something to the people and then you're dangling like a little cherry and just moving it along, people start to trust in you. People start losing trust in government. The other issue that I have is that including the Park in there, I don't have a problem to have a columbarium in my district if that is the wish of my people and if we had the space. Bill Barber Park doesn't have the space for starters.
We have, like, two foot soccer fields and or and two baseball fields compared to the Great Park. And this is one of the reasons I wanted to run for an elected official because I saw all the resources going to the Great Park. And the Great Park is getting everything in the poorest neighborhoods in District 5 and District 6 have been leaving behind. And for to suggest that we can bring a Columbian and take more resources from children out of the park, taking the playground out of the park to put other things that are not going to that it's going to be making taking those resources of for them to play. It's not good.
So I'm just having a hard decision with this one. I still support my veterans, and I still support the people who asked me to support this at the ARDA site. And also, we have the legal challenge that I didn't understand I didn't understood. I met with Mr. Melchin to get explain the legal situation.
And I think it's only fair if we bring an outside expert to decide what are the legal challenges to that we are going to face in order to move the site. And although I understand this is a study, I mean, I'm just asking either to bring a more legal expert or to also exclude bill Barber park. Included someone else in District 5 if you find the space. But Bill Barber Park, I think it should be out of the question. Thank you.
Thank you, Councilmember Martinez Franco. Is it Councilmember Traciever next?
Thank you. I appreciate the vice mayor for bringing this item forward. I was hoping that we would have a follow-up on the columbarium vote. When the columbarium idea was first proposed to the council, it was embedded in another item. And I was hoping that we'd have a chance to just discuss the columbarium itself.
And so I'm happy to say I very much, of course, support veterans. I think the mayor's idea of a columbarium was genius. It's a way to make sure that folks have a great resting place that people can visit and that they have honor. But it doesn't take up as much space as a veteran cemetery per se and would likely cost a lot less. So I think that that is wonderful.
Now in terms of whether it has to be ARDA, for myself, I am happy visiting like, I'm hoping that, say, my father's ashes could be entered in the columbarium. I'm happy to visit his ashes anywhere in the city. I don't have a particular reason why I would insist on ARDA. I'll
have to
say it's not intuitive to me why the only way we could support veterans is if we have a columbarium at the Arda site. I understand the mayor making this legal argument. We have discussed this in the past when we've talked about the Veterans Cemetery. But as I understand it, Mr. Melching has said that indeed if the city council wants to put a columbarium or a cemetery or something like that somewhere or something else in ARDA, that we can do that. That we're exempt from these zoning codes. Is that correct, Mr. Melching?
Yes, that's accurate.
Okay. So Excuse
me, may I I just jump in? Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll let you finish. I'm sorry.
Okay. Thank you. So I understand. So we have a disagreement. We have Mr. Melching saying one thing. We have the mayor saying another. They're both lawyers. Between the two of them, Mr. Melching is the one that is hired by the city and hired by the council to give us legal advice.
He has a duty to give us advice that's in the best interest of the city. And so when he agrees with a member of the council, really any of the when he disagrees with really any member of the council, and I have to decide, well, who is correct, I'm going to lean toward Mr. Melching in terms of legal subjects. Now again, I guess I am a little bit surprised. I thought that folks would be very excited to get initial step down on a columbarium to fulfill what we would like to give to our veterans.
But it sounds like maybe that is not universally accepted unless it is exactly at the Arda site. I guess I just don't understand that. The problem with the Arda site normally I wouldn't mind. The problem with Arda site is, as we've heard, many, many residents do not want that. Are There other places in the city where we could put the columbarium, we wouldn't have this conflict. And I would like to do that. Now in terms of like, are we making a lot of specific decisions right now? No. We're not saying, well, it has to be in this particular park or this particular district. We're asking the staff to look into it.
Now, we have asked the staff to put a ton of time into the Veterans Cemetery in the past, so I don't see that there's anything that is inconsistent with asking them to look at this new thing, which again, I think is very viable. I think this is a way to get what the mayor has wanted now for decades, is to get a columbarium to honor our veterans.
Thank you.
Let me just what is the law in the city? What does the law provide now with respect to the location of a Veterans Memorial Park And Cemetery?
The initiative measure that was adopted by the council in May 2020 indicates that the Veterans Memorial Park And Cemetery location would be the art of site. That's correct. Exclusively the art of site. That word is used exclusively and nowhere else in the city of Irvine.
Right. That's
Thank the you,
the law could be changed, no question about it. We've got a difference of opinion about that. But there's a difference between opinion and what is the black letter law. No doubt if there were an attempt, for example, to locate a library to locate a library on the ARTA site, that's going to require a vote of the people. You've got to go back to the people.
Mayor, as you know, this is where you and I don't agree. Yeah.
If you tried to do it through a city council vote alone, that will immediately precipitate a lawsuit. And your opinion is, well, pretty good chance you believe that the city could win that lawsuit. My opinion is pretty good chance the city would lose the lawsuit. Inevitably, though, we would be talking about millions of dollars in legal fees associated with that. I like to stick with the law as it is, which is highly directive.
And it's not the mayor's law. It is the law of the city Of Irvine as put together by the people of the City Of Irvine qualified and approved. I just it' the lawyer in me that just can' resist making that point over and over and over again. Does that mean that Mr. Mai councilmember Mai can' introduce a different idea putting a columbarium a municipal columbarium as he refers to it elsewhere in town?
Yeah. But getting the approvals to do that, finding a place. You know, there was a veteran cemetery committee formed and a general municipal cemetery committee formed in the 1980s. They never found a site that was suitable. The developers didn't want it here.
They didn't want it there. Somebody didn't want it here or there. You're not going to get approval for Bill Barber. You're not going to get approval elsewhere on the Great Park site beyond the artist site. The idea that it would be on the cultural terrace where there are millions of people seems to be highly inappropriate.
I guess I would just ask people to pretty much trust the judgment of the people of the city of Irvine that we have found the appropriate place and it's been there for years approved by the people and is the law of the city. Councilmember lu then councilmember carol and councilmember mye.
Mayor, I would prefer to let the public comment come first, and then I will make my comment.
All right. All the others wish to hear from the public as well? All right. How many do we have?
Thank you, mayor. We have 12 requests to speak.
12 requests. Why don't we encourage those folks to limit their comments to ninety seconds? If they absolutely need a few more seconds, I'll be happy to grant it. Okay?
Thank you, mayor. If I could call forward Alan Meyerson, Mike D, Jennifer Curry, Steve Berger, and Anita Bhatt. And we'll start with Mr. Meyerson.
I can't believe I'm talking about this again. I'm one of those thousands of people who voted for the cemetery at the artist site more than one time. I'm still waiting for it to happen. I don't know why it's okay to have a veterans Memorial Park at the cemetery, but it's not okay to have a columbarium at the cemetery. Out of fear people might see it, but it's okay to put it at the cultural terrace.
It's kind of weak. I'm infuriated by this whole thing. And, I'm beginning to wonder, Vice Mayor Mai, can you think on your own, or does councilmember trecedar have to be in your ear every five minutes telling you what to do or making suggestions to you because I' seeing it over and over again and it really makes me wonder who' controlling that corner of the dais. Don't take offense to that. I'm just telling you what I'm seeing.
I don't know why you voted against the columbarium at the artist site. This could have been done already if you had just voted for it. You didn't want to vote for it. You think people aren't going to be against it being somewhere else in the city? Councilmember Treseder said people don't want it at the artist site. You think people that are going be living near it where you want to put it aren't going to complain about it? When you're going to put it somewhere else, they're going to complain about it. You're going to put it somewhere else, they're going to complain about it. It's never going to happen Disgusting. Unless it's at the yard
Mike.
Good evening council members. I want to start by thanking Vice Mayor Mai for being proactive and trying to bring the community back together and how to best honor our veterans we must accept that there' no longer possible to achieve the original intent of the city' plan to honor veterans with a sanctioned veterans burial site at the Great Park due to the selection of Gypsum Canyon and the significant build out of the Great Park neighborhoods. I don' know if the city needs a burial site but if we pursue one it should align with the current reality of what this burial site would be how it would be funded and sustained and the input from the community in which it will be built a new plan must consider today' facts with Gypsum Canyon now the only sanctioned veteran cemetery with state and federal funding any burial site in Irvine would be a municipal burial site open to all qualified or urban residents and not eligible for full veteran benefits. Committing to building and maintaining a municipal burial site the major commitment long term impacts to the community and must have a clear financial plan including long term operational funding and understanding that rating the Great Park development funds would further delay park features that the community overwhelmingly supports like a library and further contributes to the unstable financial situation facing the completion operation of that park.
With the Veteran Cemetery as it was envisioned no longer viable the Veteran Cemetery under the law mayor argon keeps referring to is no longer applicable to this conversation that Veterans Cemetery is at Gypsum. I hope we can come together as a community to focus our efforts on more productive approaches to honor our veterans and not waste millions of dollars defending a lawsuit the mayor of Brevine just threatened to bring against his own city if the city wants to spend your funds in pursuing a municipal burial site let' have the conversation but let' do
it right out the past
thank you.
Jennifer.
Good evening mayor and city council my name is Jennifer curry I'm an Irvine resident thank you vice mayor mye for bringing forth this proposal and for working to find a compromise that works for all the residents of Irvine. If the city decides to move forward with a column burial study I believe the city must undertake a comprehensive planning process for a burial site any location at a minimum should have outreach and multiple workshops after which professional surveys demonstrate majority resident support in the community where the development will take place. It' also important to recognize that circumstances have changed dramatically since the cemetery was first discussed thousands of families now live in the great park schools around the Arta site and the state has never committed to building a veteran cemetery I do appreciate the mayor bringing up the children' concerns regarding being in proximity to remains. Any study should reflect today' reality not yesterday' assumptions. Council members and any other public speakers if you have locations please confer with your council members to bring those studies forward for sites forward for study this approach aligns with the district based representation that Irvine voters approved each district should make decisions that work best for their community Irvine is a city of innovation and can be creative when addressing resident concerns this is an opportunity to find new solutions that truly serve all residents of Irvine
thank you your time is up
can I say one more thing I have faith in this city council that you can work together to find a solution for all the residents of Irvine thank you for your service?
Steve berger.
Good evening again, mayor Egren, council members.
A lot of what I
was going to say about the Veterans Memorial Park And Gardens And Cemetery at the Artisite in Irvine have been rendered moot by comments of the council already. Councilmember Mai, your proposal specifically is a way devised to go around a veteran cemetery or a columbarium at the Arta Site. The Arta site was long presumed to be the site that was supposed to be where the Veterans Cemetery was was meant to be. In Irvine, in Orange County, Chipsum Canyon is a pipe dream. The figures I've heard are three fifty million dollars It will never ever ever be built.
I'm saying that in public form now. It's my opinion. I could be wrong. I might be wrong. But, I would defy any of you on the City Council to find $350,000,000 to build Gypsum Canyon right now. We can have a veteran cemetery in Irvine at the order site in a secluded section where it' not where children are not exposed. Where the families where Keaton School is not exposed. And, we' doing that with a berm that is going around. Accommodations have already been made.
Thank you your time is up.
Accommodations have already been made. I ask this counsel to not look for excuses or bypasses. I ask them to put the Veterans Cemetery And Columbarium where it's supposed to be at the order site. Thank you.
Anita Baum.
I'd say good evening, but really good night, given how late it is. Thank you all for making time to listen to our comments. I'm blessed with three children, very young ones and so the art of compromise is something that I know a lot about and all of your parents in some capacity as well. As a business executive I have managed many negotiations with very difficult parties and working in a public federal capacity and also worked on very difficult public private partnerships. I have full faith like jenny said that we can get to a better compromise here the people at Great Park have spoken time and time again it is not a cemetery or a columbarium do not belong in Arda holding a library or any institution hostage for that reason is not what this city stands for and I know that we' better than that and I know the legacy that any of us want to leave particularly those on this dais wants to be one of respect and of what the people actually want and deserve and education honoring our veterans in the right way not using them as pawns I think is really critical to that we' grateful for your service please do the right thing and listen to what the not only the voters in 2020 said but the people continuously have been coming here representing hundreds of people in their districts have been telling you through email and in person.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Prakash. Prakash, may unmute your mic.
Hi. Good evening. I am I also support vice mayor Mai's agenda item. It was thoughtfully written. It also includes creative financing mechanisms, some of which councilmember Trisheeder had also mentioned in the past.
I would I would
want to I want to
address Betty's comments about the Great Park, which is completely misinformed. The Great Park is not getting a windfall from the city of Irvine. The Great Park residents pay all the special taxes that go to the park build out,
and we're half $1,000,000,000 short
of financing. So I think I think you as a council member should go and look into how the city gets financed. This is a great opportunity to build something for Irvine residents and for veterans. It's just a study. We'll have sixty days to evaluate it. We spend money on all kinds of nonsense. Why can't we spend money on this? It's just an evaluation study. If we really want to find a solution to our vets, if you guys really care about the vets, this is what we should do. And saying no to Bill Barber, is that not NIMBY? What exactly is that? We're not saying no to the Great Park. We're offering up locations in the Great Park.
We're offering up different solutions. You're offering up
absolutely zero. So I would reconsider your thoughts on this, and I want to thank the vice mayor for putting this forward. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Harvey Liss. Harvey, you may unmute your mic. Harvey, can you hear us?
Sorry, Harvey. One moment. Okay. Go ahead, Harvey. You may unmute your mic.
Hi. Can you hear me now? We can hear you. Great. I'm Harvey Lissa, executive director of Build the Great Park Veterans Cemetery Committee. I want to say that the item that Mr. Melching is saying overrides the 2020 initiative was inserted by him into our municipal code after signature collection began on our initiative, and he approved the title and summary of our initiative, but before the initiative was adopted on 05/12/2020. Is this a conflict of interest? In any case, that initiative designates the Arta Site as the exclusive location for a veteran cemetery in the city. It does not mention State Veteran Cemetery, and the columbarium is certainly included in the cemetery.
Council member Mai's memo states, including a designated area honoring veterans. It seems to me that that would violate the 2020 initiative and would require another citizens initiative. We believe that nothing written into a municipal code can override a citizen's initiative since that is the essential reason for having a citizen's initiative in the first place. So we believe that a court will also support our opinion. And finally, due to the enormous cost of building a veteran cemetery at Gypsum Canyon, 145,000,000 according to report by Geosyntech a year ago, and that expense can only be made after 45,000,000 is spent on the initial construction of a public cemetery, there will never be a cemetery at Gypsum Canyon of any kind.
And that price doesn't even include entrance and exit ramps from the 91 Fluor. That would add another 100,000,000 at least. The only place we'll have a veteran cemetery is at the Arda Site.
Thank you. Your time is up. Our next speaker is telephone number 347. 347, you may unmute your mic.
Yes. This is Difa. I believe Vice Mayor James Mai has forgotten that the Great Park has been officially titled the Orange County Great Park and not the Great Park for Irvine residents. I want to call out the profound disrespect embedded in this proposal. Military service is not local. It is national. It is sworn to the constitution not to a zip code. Men and women who served at MCAS El Toro did not serve for Irvine and they certainly did not serve so the sacrifice could later be filtered through municipal eligibility rules. What is being proposed here is not honor. It's built with conditions, limitations and control.
Honor is not something you ration. This proposal needs to include ceremonial military honors and inclusivity at the very least or what's the point other than to silence our veterans? And Kathleen Traceter, the second time you claimed sexual harassment at UCI, you got caught in line and cost UCI to settle. So I have no respect for anything you have to say. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Perissa. Perissa, you may unmute your mic.
Thank you all. I had a great speech, but frankly, at this point, it just seems crazy to even be nice. I appreciate Councilmember Mai and Councilwoman Mr. Cedar for supporting this. I mean, it's a compromise. The Great Park has fought against this for ten years, and Mr. Meyerson said it right there on the first comment. Nobody wants it in their backyard. He doesn't want it in his backyard. So why does he insist on coming to every council meeting and forcing it into the Great Park?
You know, this is honestly, it's my five year old can compromise better than what's going on. And it's fascinating to me that we have a city attorney, but there seems to be so many other people who have much better legal understanding than our city attorney because they seem to know what's gonna happen in courts. It's fascinating, actually, that they can predict what a judge is going to do. I mean, in Anaheim, I'm pretty sure that that law suit was killed within about five months. So, obviously, these expert lawyers that are not the city of Irvine's attorney do not really know what they're talking about.
They just keep trying to strong-arm every thing that's happening and forcing it into the Great Park and forcing it onto Arda when we are willing to compromise and having it somewhere else. But Larry said, you know, the kids at the Columbarium at the Cultural Terrace are gonna be impacted. What about the kids at Cadence Park? This is crazy. Like, honestly.
Our next speaker is Jeremy Fick or excuse me, Jay Bruce. Jay, you may unmute your mic.
I hope so. I don't have a as big of a personal stake in this issue, but I just wanted to say that's my understanding that the entire reason that this columbarium was even brought up is because a ballot measure in 2020 zoned the Arda site for a cemetery. The argument for the columbarium is that the Arda site is zoned for a cemetery, so this would be a way to store veterans' remains without having burials. So that means that no matter what, we can't build a columbarium outside the Arda site because only the Arda site is zoned for human remains. We'd have to find somewhere else that's zoned for, you know, human remains.
There's also obviously going to be the legal question that's already been raised as to whether or not giving preference to veterans makes the columbarium a veteran Cemetery. And so locating the columbarium outside the Arda site would require a ballot measure. But I think, you know, whether the council can or cannot legally put the columbarium outside the Arda site, like putting that aside, if we want that to happen, you know, at the basic level, I think we would need to pass another zone change to allow for a cemetery at one of these parks. And I think that's what we need to focus on. You know, if James Smythe is serious about having a columbarium somewhere in the city, you should pose this study with the intention of proposing an accompanying zone change or ballot measure because the zoning is the root of the problem.
My opinion would be that a con bearing would be sitting somewhere in Bill Barber Memorial Park or the Great Park somewhere giving their
Thank you. Your time is up. Our next speaker is Jeremy Ficarola. Mr. Ficarola, you may unmute your mic.
Yeah. Hi there. Jeremy Ficarola. I live in Cypress Village, which is near Great Park. And I'm actually of the opinion that I don't think any space in Great Park should be a place for burial.
I know the cemetery issue has been going on for, I think, a decade, maybe more than a decade. And it's just it's it's really tiring following this issue. All I really want is Gray Park to be developed according to all the plans that that we have set forth. The cemetery issue, unfortunately, and I'm sorry to say this, but I think this is a vanity project for the mayor. I I know the mayor, and, you know, I've worked closely with him in the past.
And I'm it's just it's at a point that now he's using lawsuits to threaten the development of the Great Park for the Irvine residents. And I think it's it's inappropriate. I think it's unfortunate. I believe that the veteran, the vets will be honored at the Gypsum Canyon site. And it's just really sad to see this issue come up over and over again. And let's just build what we plan what we have planned to build on the Great Park because the residents are getting very anxious. Thank you.
Our next speaker is transparent Irvine. You may unmute your mic.
Vice Mayor Mai proposed a beautiful motion for municipal columbarium. Rather than entertain it, Mayor Agron flipped the conversation to the past and to the cemetery at Ardagh. Why is that? First of all, there's an independent expenditure with over $500,000 in debt in which Mayor Abram's name is listed multiple times as is his newspaper, Irvine Community News and Views. Secondly, he will be using said newspaper to make a political point about tonight.
All you have to do is watch the next couple of Irvine community news and views, and you will see he will manipulate it to try and make his point about the Articite. This is wrong. It is manipulative. It is not transparent. And if it offends you as it should as an Irvine citizen that your mayor is not disclosing his PAC, as you should stop the conversation right now and say, I have an independent expenditure tied to the cemetery, and that's why I care about it, then you should file an FPPC complaint.
There is one already open for a year and a half with the FPPC. Let the state know how he's manipulating the system for his own pocket and his own benefit rather than do what's right for veterans and our city. May vice mayor May's proposal is one that is fair and honest and stands for our city. Mayor Agron, stop the nonsense already. Shame on you.
JOSHUA Mr. Mayor, that's all of the original speakers. There are four additional requests to speak in the queue, so I'll defer to you.
Says microphone. There we go. Okay, but no more. Just the four.
Ninety seconds. Thank you, mayor. Our next speaker is Zoom user. You may unmute your mic.
Hello? Can you hear me?
We can hear you.
Okay. I'm just hopeful that you guys could support Vice Mayor Mai today. And, there there is a huge difference between the Cultural Terrace and the Arda site, and that the the Cultural Terrace is not next to homes and schools. What I'm understanding is that you don't think District 2 children and families are important. You are more concerned with the children that visit the Cultural Terrace, and that is really disheartening to hear from our mayor. Thank you. That's all I have to say.
Our next speaker is Oh. Oh, you may unmute your mic.
I just wanted to thank vice mayor Mai for bringing this proposal forward. It's the only council member that actually is looking for a compromise. I'm a Great Park resident, and I'm getting tired of this issue as well. I'm also a few callers a few caller back suggested I'm not in in support of of any site in the Great Park. I mean, the the the the makeup of the park has changed significantly.
There's significant residential areas in the area, and, there's schools and kids involved. So this is, you know, this just has to be resolved in a matter that respects taxpayer residents. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Shakila. Shakila, you may unmute your mic.
Everyone, can you hear me?
Can hear you.
Honorable council members, I urge you to vote s on vice mayor's May's proposal to evaluate the locations for Municipal Columbarium. This is the correct path for honoring our El Toro veterans while respecting the residents of Irvine. And Great Park community has already contributed heavily to honoring our veterans, specifically allocating veterans memorial and gardens. We are not opposing to honor veterans. We are opposed to planning decisions without data.
This study provides an opportunity to utilize real data through surveys and transparent engagement to identify a location that works for everyone. Please support this item and ensure the community feedback is primary primary driver of the final location selection. Thank you. And we we don't want any kind of columbarium or in the Great Park area. Please look for the options, and we are open. And please reach out to the residents who are residing in the Great Park and nearby. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Junaid Salari. You may unmute your mic. Junaid, can you hear us?
Yes. I can hear you. Council members, this is Janead Solari. The mayor came up with the idea of a columbarium. It was a fine idea, but it was voted down last month by city council because it was brought forward haphazardly without any research, without any study, without any outreach, in a location that did not have community support.
It was rightfully voted down last month, But vice mayor Mai has put forward a reasonable proposal that would study potential columbarium sites in a deliberative manner in this city. Is a columbarium not what the mayor wanted? Why has he backed off from what he himself had proposed? When city council brings forward an idea, our expectation as your constituents is to do so in a matter that is deliberative with research. That's exactly what vice mayor's vice mayor Mai's motion proposes.
It is a reasonable compromise, and it is a reasonable manner to find a site for the columbarium in a place that has community support. This is what leadership looks like, and I commend Vice Mayor Mai for raising it. Thank you.
And that is all mayor.
Thank you thank you all for your public comments we have requests here from council members to be heard so I' turn to number one on the list here is councilmember lu.
Thank you mayor. Quite frankly I thought I would get a little more clarity after hearing from the public comments because I am pretty confused by this memo. And I don't mean any disrespect, but we are talking about veterans, honoring veterans, making a preference for veterans, while at the same time it is not for veterans and it is a municipal and then the location evolved from anywhere in the Great Park to pretty much the entire city's fair game. I really do not understand. The fact that there are questions about funding, My question is if one of the ideas is to have a friends of the library, so to speak, structure for funding.
If that' the case and it' private funding, is this still a city run facility that will qualify under the city facility exemption which obviously mayor and Mr. Melching also have a disagreement on. So, one of the callers is right. Heart of the issue is zoning. Is there anywhere else in this city that is zoned for a cemetery, whether it's veterans or municipal?
Well, if you have an answer right now off the top of your head, please answer.
I do. The zoning code, it has two categories in the zoning code of land uses. So you imagine a matrix that has all the land uses on one axis and all of the zoning designations on another axis. One of those categories is State Veterans Cemetery. State Veterans Cemetery is allowed in one place, the Arda site.
Then another category is cemetery, crematory, mausoleum. And the cemetery, mausoleum is allowed in the 1.2 throughout the city by way of a conditional use permit. And it's allowed in the 1.5 Recreation District, but only in Planning Area 51. And as a footnote, there is no 1.5 land in Planning Area 51, so that one doesn't count. And it's also allowed in the 2.1 estate density residential district citywide by way of a conditional use permit cemetery, crematory, and mausoleum.
And lastly, that use, like a state veteran cemetery, is allowed on the ARDA site.
Okay. And just a quick question. I think we mentioned this at the last meeting. A columbarium is legally defined as a cemetery. It's essentially the same thing. Yes. Walk me through the process. Are we supposed to go through, well, say, And then, if that's going to build, this is human remains, so are we going to have to go through a whole sequel process as well?
You're talking about the state regulatory process to actually site a cemetery?
No, to actually have a cemetery.
We would need to get ourselves educated about that whole process.
Okay. And, to be honest, all these locations that have been thrown out right now, I just don't see it anywhere not near a residential area. I mean, this is the city of Irvine. We have houses everywhere. And, it's really hard to not find one that is close to a school or residential area because, quite frankly, that is how our city is designed, by village style.
And each village has their own housing with walkable schools, shopping centers, and that is why we like it here. And I am quite frankly very confused by where that will be if, say, in council member vice mayor MICE District 3, Northward Community Park, are we taking out the castle? That's my question. And the other thing is, where are we going to find this money? I mean, yes, possibly private financing.
But we just decided not to run the fourth of July event when we were almost guaranteed or promised on the dais that there will be sponsors, but unfortunately, that didn't pan out, and we had to forego that. Here is another pie in the sky. And, I don't understand why this has to be there's a false dichotomy, in my opinion, proposed that there has to be decided that we have to have a cemetery. If anybody truly cared about supporting veterans, they would have gone to the Gypsum Canyon public hearing in Anaheim where you will learn that half of that site is actually going to be a public cemetery to allow regular residents who are not veterans to be buried there because in Orange County apparently we haven't built any public cemetery for over a hundred years. So, there is no lack of cemetery sites if that gets built which I think it will get built you know, hopefully, because I hope that it gets billed, and there's enough funding, enough support right now, enough push to get additional funding, and there's already 65,000,000,000 I mean, millions committed to that.
And so and, yes, I I agree that Great Park residents came out and voiced their concerns about that. And they are absolutely right that, you know, the the ship has sailed. We missed that point of building it at ARDA. And if you I mean, I've been consistent about this. I don't think that's the right place to build it.
We' not even talking about building even if we came into the funding right now today and have that built how are we going to maintain this? Are we supposed to sell it like we' some kind of Rose Hills facility or entity? What happens to any families that actually end up with no heirs to pay the maintenance fee? Who is going to run that? Or is this going to fall on irvine taxpayers to maintain that?
There' so many questions that are unanswered and like mayor said we all have proper funding for staff and I' quite frankly very baffled why there' so many unanswered questions in this memo. I just want to reconfirm this, that ARDA, in the proposed motion right now, ARDA is excluded. Can ARDA be legally excluded from this motion, and as a potential site for whether it's municipal or veteran cemetery? Yes.
Yes. This motion has nothing to do with zoning at all. This has to do with what the city will explore.
Right.
The zoning does not control what the city will explore.
It was just that we keep coming back to the same issue so we' going to have there' another thing California law requires a massive up from financial commitment that the city current funding model special taxes may not legally satisfy for long term state recognition so if it' not state then what are we talking about we talking about using irvine taxpayer money general funds to do that and if we' using general funds are we taking money away from other services we just had that discussion about fourth of July and people I mean frankly I was one of the ones that was having sticker shock about spending a massive amount of money on one event. To me this memo lacks transparency because none of us had heard about this nobody was consulted or even any of the residents. And then it's an overburden on the city's budget and resources right now. And I see more importance in serving the community. I had to pull my memo well, my memo with vice mayor on providing veteran resources, is serving living veterans who serve the country and their families.
And because of this controversial issue, I have to pull that because my speakers are quite frankly not able to come because of this. And there is just a incomplete lack of information there' lack of information and incomplete information on this memo and for that reason
Point of order. I think all those that information was
to Excuse be filled in by me.
Can I finish?
Wait one second he interrupted with a point of order. State your point.
My point is this memo is doesn' have all the things that councilmember malinda lu is mentioning because they are asking the staff to fill it in. That'
not a point of order. Go ahead councilmember
hawaii. I really don' think we should continue to put staff members on the wild goose chase. For that reason I will motion to continue this item indefinitely. And, I would like to see if there is a second for that.
Are you moving to continue the matter?
Yes. Indefinitely.
How does that differ from a motion to table?
A motion to table is the same as a motion to continue indefinitely. Okay. Same
So This is in effect a motion to table. And that's, as I recall from Robert's rules, not debatable. Is that correct?
Yes. It's a priority motion. Not if it gets a second, not debatable.
All right. With the clerk on a motion to table indefinitely with the clerk please call the roll.
And I apologize was there a second to that.
I'll second it.
I'm sorry thank you Councilmember Carroll seconded.
Thank you councilmember Carroll. Yes. Councilmember Goh. Me clarify. Once
we vote this item will cease there' no further comments?
That' correct.
I' kind of upset I' like to make a comment. It is my district that' being debated time and time again until midnight. I would like permission to at least make a comment.
It' not a debatable motion.
I' not commenting on the motion I just thought that.
You' surmise you' want to vote no on the motion to table. Will the clerk please call the
roll? So, again, councilmember Goh.
Can we just restart that? Because I'm not following what's going on here.
Absolutely. I'm just redoing the roll call on the same motion, which is a table to continue. Councilmember Carroll. Yes. Councilmember Goh.
I just want to clarify. If this comes up again, I'd be able to speak to it, correct?
No. Councilmember Liu.
Councilmember Martinez Franco.
Councilmember Trecedor.
Vice Mayor Mai. No. Mayor Agram. Yes. Motion carries four to three with councilmember Goh, councilmember Cecilia, and vice mayor Mai voting no.
According to my notes that concludes our business tonight however councilmember lose father passed away some weeks ago we would like to be adjourning the meeting tonight in his honor. At this point I would like to turn to councilmember lu and introduce the adjournment motion if you would.
I will move to adjourn the meeting and before that I will make a short comment about my father. So thank you, mayor. Thank you for the opportunity to honor my father's legacy today. First, I want to thank everyone who came out to celebrate his amazing life with my family earlier this month. My father was an accomplished public servant, a respected litigator, a dutiful son, a loving husband, and a father whom we were very lucky to have.
His legal career started during his military service in Taiwan. After a decade of decorative service in the Taiwan Army, he retired as a judge. For over forty years, he built a successful law practice. While he advocated for his clients, he also helped expand the public defender service, established halfway homes, provided pro bono services to vulnerable communities, and taught business law to the next generation of lawyers. During the 80s, my father served two terms on the Taipei City Council where he introduced many ordinances to protect the health and safety of residents, improved protection and equipment for first responders, and advocated for many modernization projects in Taipei including the type a metro.
His childhood hardship of food and housing security made him generous. And he was an active Rotarian involved in many charitable projects. My father taught me how to be generous, kind, and empathetic. He taught me how to lead with grace and compassion. And he taught me that public service is the goal and not a means to an end.
Most importantly, he taught me to value people friends, family, and those who need help. I'm glad I was able to care for him in the last few years, bring him some pride in the little I'm able to accomplish, and spoil him the same way he spoiled us. I miss our conversations about law and politics. His legacy lives in every life he's touched.
And thank you. Thank you for those touching comments. I move that we adjourn the meeting at this time. Would you like to actually make the motion to adjourn in his honor?
Yes, so I move to adjourn this meeting in my father's honor.
Thank you. I'll second that motion. Would the clerk please call the roll?
Councilmember Carroll? Yes. Councilmember Goh? Yes. Councilmember Liu? Yes. Councilmember Martinez Franco? Yes. Councilmember Trusieder? Yes. Vice Mayor May?
Mayor Agram? Yes. Carry seven-zero.
Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. The meeting is adjourned.
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