Town Council - Regular Meeting

you know say man that was a great park we want to be there more they booked the shelter for a birthday party that birthday party they interact with our staff for the first time they have a great time and then that rolls right into a program participation for a lot of families what we see is these become annual traditions often you know they're prioritizing coming to us over other things and again our events are kind of the the backbone to introduce to out to the community Part of our master plan that we adopted back in 2021 called out the need to continue to tell our story. So that's thousands of new eyes and millions of marketing impressions. I'm not going to pretend to understand marketing, but I think we're doing a heck of a job if we continue to set records across the board. One of the things that we show in this heat map is where we're serving residents, right? Update this map periodically to make sure that we continue to hit the hit all neighborhoods as you can see all by the Reds and yellows We're doing a pretty good job there Record-setting for us. We have a rec software system. I mean and we added about 2,300 accounts That means 2,300 people chose to deal with Indian Trail Park and Rack right there. We're not forcing them These are people are taking their hard-earned time hard-earned money and choosing to spend it with us. I So looking forward, as we look forward to FY27 that we're already in and beyond, our priorities remain clear. Continue the path that we've been on since we adopted that park and rec master plan back in 21. That's really the guiding future for us for investments, and it prepares our park and rec system as we continue to grow. Since the adoption of that plan, the department has listened to the community and executed some of the big moves, including some land acquisition across the street. We also continue to develop land. Again, thank you for approving the field back in June. We're excited to see that come underway. And later on this year, we plan to come back with you with a final version for looking at our community center. This isn't about one particular project, right? But it's about ensuring our long-term planning continues to be driven by data, community input, and responsible stewardship. then finally i would be remiss i had the pleasure of standing up before you you know during council meetings or you get to read my emails but the the staff picture on the on the screen is is the ones doing the hard work day in and day out right they're answering emails at seven o'clock in the morning seven o'clock at night on saturdays uh dealing with emergencies at the park at all times you know working the 18 hour days at family fun day so they're they're the ones that make me look good They're the ones that then in turn make you guys look good. So truly again, it's a privilege to be here working day in and day out. Thank you for your commitment to Park and Rec in the future and in the past by your council and previous councils. So here to answer any questions if there are any.

Any questions for Hayden?

Make a statement.

I just want to say thank you. Great job with the 4th of July parade. I just want to reiterate, I appreciate the downtown employees working on holidays when I get to enjoy, you know, the service that y'all provide. And so thank you for that. And then also thank you for all that you do with the small staff that you have, you know, not a lot of people doing a lot of work. So greatly appreciate it. Appreciate you.

Anybody else? Well, I want to say thank you to you guys are the best and you do a lot and and all the way from doing the, you know, parades to all the baseball tournaments and basketball games that we do and It's amazing that all the camps, just quickly, how many kids did we have at camps this year? Do you have an idea?

I don't have an accurate estimate, but I guarantee it's another record set a year, right? I'll get you that number.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And people don't realize, if you've never been to Family Fun Day, it generally draws about 10,000 people to Crooked Creek Park. And it's amazing what you do for the town. It was a lot of fun, and it makes our town a better town, so thank you.

Good deal. We'll keep having fun in fiscal year 27, and we'll see you all out there. Thanks so much.

Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Next presentation is a special presentation we have tonight. I'm going I'm going to turn this presentation over to Councilman or Mayor Pro Tem also Brooks, because he's the one that's done a lot of work behind this clearance. If you would. And you, you know, Mr. Sutton probably better than anybody up here. If you would like to say a few words and and give that out to Mr. Sutton.

I will.

I won't give up a chance to say a few words.

No, just, you know, Jerome, you mean a lot to a lot of people. We had the conversation and you kept saying, he was very humbly saying, look, if it's gonna be too much, don't do it, don't do it. If it's gonna be too much trouble, make anyone mad. And I was like, no, you deserve it. And once made a presentation and everything, there were so many people that reached out to me saying, thank y'all for what you did for Jerome. This goes back, someone who has some kid who's 30-something years old, and he remembers you from out there when he was in middle school. Somebody sent an email saying they need to make a movie of Jerome. But I want to present this to you, and my word of advice is there will be a Jerome Sutton way, but don't start claiming that Count Sutton and Monroe is named after you and Sutton Street and Monroe is named after you either, but come on up.

Council, if you want to, I think we all ought to come up and be honored to have our picture made with Mr. Sutton. And I told you, Mr. Sutton, that I wish I was half as popular as you were. I'd be very happy.

Thank you all, my wife, my family.

That's a good idea. Family, come on up here. Let's all get our picture made. Come on. Yeah, that's good.

Okay, we'll wait. I apologize.

Thank you. I'll be not ready.

Mayor, just a few words. Mr. Sutton, we want to say to you congratulations and we know that you don't like being the center of attention, but thanks to the council and for all those who recognized your efforts, the thousands of families that you assisted and you helped and you cared for over all these years, that's a testament to the town naming that street after you. So to you, sir, I say congratulations, job well done, and we, from all of us here, we truly appreciate it. That's what makes our town special. So thank you. And I got one of my students right here in front of me. Right.

Hey, Jerome. Jerome protected my children for years, and I would pull out every morning, and you know how shy he was. He didn't want to do the pledge. I get it. But he wasn't shy with the traffic. I mean, he would blow that whistle in a heartbeat. I about ran over him a couple times. No, but hey, everybody misses you. We really do. We were sad when you retired. And, hey, that street I pull into my neighborhood every night says Jerome Sutton Way. Soon.

I don't think it's up yet, is it, Adam? No. Yeah, but the old sign is down. Hey, God bless you, Jerome.

Thank you all so much.

This is a special moment for me.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank each and every one of y'all for everything that y'all did.

Thank you, Jerome. Thank you for all your hard work and all you did. Okay. I want to mention real quick, I just want to thank Richard and Laura Martin back there for bringing this in here today. This right here is, if anybody's, I've got one, never opened it, but it's Monopoly, Indian Trail Monopoly. And they actually sell that. I don't remember where I bought it either. It could have been Walmart or somewhere. Walmart. But you can get one. Now that I'm doing this, I hope Monopoly gives me a little bit of everything that y'all buy one. Let me know, and I'll expect a dollar or two from that. I'm kidding. but uh no you can get that it's real nice and we're going he requested richard requested we put it in our uh cabinet downstairs i don't don't know if we can do that or not we'll have to i'll have to ask the council if we can do that so but i think it's pretty neat neat to have all right that brings us to public comments and we do not have any public comments tonight. I just want to let the audience know also that I see no public comments. anywhere on here, even even where where we have a public hearing. So if you wanted to speak during the public hearing, I'll ask. I don't want somebody that didn't see the sign up, not sign up. I'll ask and we'll ask council to let you come up, speak if someone wants to. So we'll move right along from that. And this brings us to law enforcement update. Captain Moss. We have a It's a big day for us. We also have another honor, but I'm going to let Captain Mullish get into that after he does a brief... That's okay.

I'll say it. I'll give you my normal, boring stats, and then we'll move on from there. No, just wanted to highlight a few things. So in the month of June, our... Our traffic guys actually did a checkpoint and a multi-agency saturation that was held on June 24th. The folks that helped out with that were Waxhaw, Monroe, State Highway Patrol, other members of the Union County Sheriff's Office, as well as our traffic team. As a result of that, we wound up with, there was 39 total folks that we found with no driver's license. We had 83 registration violations, 23 speeding citations. We found two folks that had warrants, gladly took a ride to the Union County Jail. Seven forged tags, all seven of those were towed off of our streets. And we actually got one impaired driver out of that as well. So that was a pretty big deal for us. Other than that, for the entire month of June, the totals for our, again, I like to highlight our folks with no driver's license, we had 131 for the month of June. We got 68 forged tags, wrote 132 speeding citations, and we were kind enough to give 98 speed warnings. So if you were one of those 98 that didn't get a ticket, slow down. And we also had 79 folks that we found with no insurance during that month as well. So they're still out there and we're still trying to combat those issues. On top of that, we worked 114 accidents during the month of June. But, so I got some cohorts here with me tonight. Mayor, I know that you and Abby and Adam were able to come up to the Indian Trail Sheriff's Office a few weeks ago. We had two of our deputies, your deputies, Indian Trail guys, who were chosen by the county to receive the Union County Lifesaver Award. That was Deputy Garcia and Deputy Frazier. Both of them are here with me tonight. Fellas, stand up and let them see your pretty face. See, I ain't the only one. We've got just a real short video. I think the county actually put together a short video, if you don't mind. We'd love to see it. I think we got that queued up, and Mayor, you were actually in the video. But like I say, let you guys see that, and if you have any questions about that or anything, be glad to answer. I tell you what, they will be glad to answer any of those questions, and I'm going to sit down.

but uh thank you anything else before we get started no Andy thank you for being the leader of our of our department and guys thank you for all You know, Andy can lead so far, but you guys are just people that were born to do what you do and born to be a hero. And thank you very much. And people can watch this and see exactly what you did, which happened very close to where we live, not far from Bonterra, where where I live. So let's let's watch.

It was a call for a structure fire and they got to talk about their visible flames. Usually sometimes we get those calls, it starts off with just, oh, they smell something. So I'm obviously always in a hurry, but when they're completely engulfed, I was like, oh my gosh.

We could hear her screaming. Couldn't make out what she was saying, just that she was screaming. We ended up finding her in the end of a trailer in the end of the trailer um where i assume was her bedroom um it was an open window um tried to knock the glass out to get her out um that wasn't cooperating went to the front door tried the front door um being that it was hot i decided not to open it i didn't want it to flash and like the rest of the trailer on fire um came back around Deputy Garcia is trying to get her out the window. It's a very small opening. So I start looking for something that she can possibly try to climb out to stand on. She ended up, Garcia got a hold of her, and she just dove out the window, essentially. He pulled her out. We pulled her to safety. And that's when she told us that the other guy was still inside. But for him, there's nothing we can do.

I'm relatively new to this. So I've been in the Sheriff's Office only for maybe about three years now. And I've only been on the road for six, seven months. And before that, you know, I spent a decade in corporate America just trying to climb the ladder there. And then, you know, I lost my job that way. So you don't get too a lot of recognition doing that. You know, you just feel like a number. You're just doing your job day now. But since being in the Sheriff's Office and working for the county, it means a lot.

You guys did a wonderful thing. There was a home that was burning. You went and saved an individual that was there. You went above and beyond. And we just like to say thank you for your effort.

You know, this is every day at Indian Trail. This is what they do. Not we do, but what they do every day. Has lots of days. So, just thank you. Thank you for doing the job that you're hired to do. And I appreciate it. It's important stuff.

Come on up. We'd like to get our picture made with you. And if you'd like to say anything, the council has any questions for you. But come on, let's get our picture.

Let's go this way. And I'm going to be crazy.

Okay.

Appreciate you guys, thank you. That brings us to the consent agenda. Can I get a motion for the consent agenda?

Motion to approve the consent agenda as presented.

All in favor? Unanimous. Okay, brings us to our public hearing.

By addressing council, you acknowledge that you have read the town's public, excuse me, that's public, yeah.

We don't have anybody doing that, so come on up. Who's doing this, Todd?

All right.

all right thank you mayor um like i said we y'all uh we've talked about this a couple times and uh at these council meetings but we're gonna go over it one more time uh just in case there's people in the audience that doesn't isn't aware of it uh so The location of this special assessment, again, we called it Hemsville Road West, obviously called the location. On 74, you got the Nissan dealership, Chrysler, and then Ford or Honda, is it Ford? Ford, yeah, Ford, and then you have the golf driving range. Well, Hemsville Road, it's on the north side of 74, and this is a private drive on Hemsville, essentially called Hemsville Road on Google Maps, so I just called it Hemsville Road West because it's on the west side versus the east side of Hemsville. So, um, again, small access drive, uh, that, um, several homes are in the back driving range up front. And, uh, the advocate came to us wanting to improve this due to, uh, terrible turn to turn off this road off 74, uh, not a lot of room with wise. Um, and so we're talking about improving just a short section of this, uh, private drive, uh, to a roadway. So the applicant's name is Shana. Sorry, I need to change that. Shana Cook. I don't know why I keep putting Evans on there. It's Shana Cook. This drive obviously is a private easement. The reason we request was conflict point insufficient width. Is Shana Cook here tonight?

Okay, all right.

So she showed up. We actually ain't met each other. This has all been emails and phone calls. So I'm glad she was able to show up. And she can speak if she wants to, if y'all want her to speak or anything about this. so obviously a way to special assessment works is a citizen it's a citizen request the town cannot force the improvement but only 50 percent of the cost to the citizen and so the town has to take the burden of the other 50 percent resolution has to be approved or passed or adopted how you want to say it and then a public hearing has to be set with those parameters stated below So, um, if you decide as a council to move forward with this, uh, project, this is pretty much what the road would look like. Um, we would, uh, we would build it resurface the roadway. We would stripe it up to the, the, uh, 74 right away line. That is that purple line you see right there at the back of sidewalk of the Chrysler dealership. Uh, so we would stripe it there, uh, put a stop bar, put a stop sign, and then we'll put it in a dinner town maintenance, um, at the end. And then we would ask for basically the property owner would have to donate the right of way in the red area to the town at no cost. So special assessment breakdown is basically the cost of the project would be $39,427. That breaks down to half is $19,713.50 to both parties. And then the applicant will basically assess a 10-year at $1,900 and some change per year. So timeline right now is we came to you in March of 24 councils made aware of the potential project. Uh, we came back to you again, that was just an informational piece. And then may 12th, we came to y'all to move forward with the process, which y'all accepted, uh, to go ahead and just move forward with the actual assessment. And then, uh, on the 26th, uh, council adopted a resolution of intent and, and basically started the public hearing process. The town attorney did provide an agreement to the applicant to basically state that if we were to move forward that they were understood about the assessment, how much they're going to be charged, and the applicant has signed it and the town manager has signed it, just to be aware of that. So now tonight we ask you to pass either approve or deny a resolution to move forward with the project. Did I explain that correctly, Mr. Town Attorney?

After the public hearing, if they want to approve it, we would just ask them to adopt the resolution that's in front of all of you. Their hard copies were placed on the dais tonight.

Okay. We have nobody signed up for the public hearings, so if we could get a motion to open and close public hearing?

Yeah. I'll make a motion to open and close public hearing.

All in favor? That's unanimous. I think we've already deliberated this, if I'm not mistaken, but if anybody would like to say anything.

I actually have a question for the attorney. Okay. If we make a motion to approve this, do we need to acknowledge the resolution number? Is that what we include in the motion?

Yes.

All right.

All right, Marcus, would you like to read the motion?

Uh, yeah. Um, I will make, I, I'll make a motion to approve the resolution number zero four parentheses zero seven or open parentheses zero seven dash one four dash two six close parentheses. Uh, this resolution directing that the Hemsville road west improvements be undertaken and levy in a special assessment as presented by Mr. Hunsinger.

All in favor. Unanimous. All right. Thank you, Mayor. Council. Thank you. Thank you, Todd. Thank you. This brings us to ZM 2 0 2 6 0 0 5 6. You know, it's road mistakes.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Our second and final public hearing for the night is ZM 20 26 0 0 5 6. This is a conventional rezoning, so you will not have a concept plan attached. So just a little bit about the request. It is looking to rezone the property from SF1 to RBD. RBD is Regional Business District, which is the zoning that flanks the 74 corridor. We're looking at two parcels totaling just over nine acres. the intent of the rezoning is to allow for RBD district to allow for commercial rather than the existing residential use and the letter of intent that they submitted was to permit uses allowed by right within the RB district including an inpatient rehabilitation hospital medical facility or other associated health care services. I won't steal too much of the applicant's thunder, but it's Encompass Health Corporation and they are looking at doing a specialty hospital at this location. The current conditions you see with the two blue arrows, you've got the two single-family detached, one constructed in 1961 and 1995, and then just a little bit of moderate tree coverage on the rear of the property here. The surrounding area, what it looks like zoning-wise, you do see all of that dark purple where the Walmart and all the commercial, what this rezoning request would do would just extend that RBD to into the property onto Yonce Road. You also have the cream color, which is your SF one. So there's quite a bit of of residential. And then you also have further up Yonce Road, the the school as well as putt putt and then the Yonce Business Park that was rezoned and is working through entitlements to to start construction. Future land use map. doesn't line up perfectly for us, to be honest, so it caused it out to be SF one. But the comp plan does talk about things that are going to happen on Yonce Road, and we'll we'll talk about that in just a few slides. So a couple of pictures for you of the subject property. If you are guilty of cutting through to avoid the the massive left on 74, you may be familiar with the horse farm. This is just across the street from that and a budding Walmart. Here's another photo looking northwest along Yonce. Properties are on the left. And then another view and through those trees is where Walmart is. Here's photos of the existing residential structures on the property. It's a little bit of an analysis. The comprehensive plan consistency, it is within the US 74 West corridor plan. And then although it's not consistent with the future land use designation for this specific property of low density residential, It is consistent with the focus that Yonce Road was going to become part of the activity center of 74. So that commercial would expand, which is what you're seeing and what this request would do. And then the existing development and recent rezonings along Yonce Road. Again, I mentioned Trails Dynasty mini golf. They're actually going through a potential expansion. the school Walmart and then the Yonce Road Flex facility as well. So the subject property request for RBD is compatible with the adjacent RBDs on the southern end of Yonce Road and very near to 74. we can talk about these you know and take them line by line if you want I just wanted to provide you some examples of what the RBD district allows and I want to be fully transparent with why we landed with RBD and not just general business so our general business zone does limit square footage and this proposed facility was over that square footage so we're really upgrading to RBD because the expansion makes sense. But then they also need that square footage. We feel confident that what they have shared with us is what they want to do with the property. But just our disclaimer, of course, is that once that map goes to dark purple, any of the uses on the screen and others within the code would be allowed. so in summary we're looking at rbd to allow commercial rather than existing residential use we do not have a concept plan for this and any of those allowed uses again would be allowed by right unless it requires a conditional rezoning for council the request is in line with the future land uses that would occur along the planned activity center corridor boulevard and your consistency findings for the night staff is of the opinion that the following consistency items can be made this request is reasonable and in the public interest as it promotes the goals of the comprehensive plan in the areas of land use and housing goal number one and land use and housing goal number four following any public comment i'll be glad to answer any questions you may have and your requested action is before you thank you

Any questions? I would like a question for the applicant if they will, if they're willing to come up.

Hey there. Good evening. My name is Edmund Ball. I'm with Encompass Health based in Birmingham. It's a pleasure to be here.

Well, thank you. Um, I was actually, I guess, speaking of the, uh, land owner, but my question is how long, uh, the, the resident, that citizen that lives on the property now, how long has the land been in the family for a while, or is it property? I would not be the one to answer that. Right. Does it have to do with. since the 1800s since the 1800s pretty long time there so and is it still family that live on some of the other parcels in the area okay thank you all the questions i have thank you

The proposal is to build a rehabilitation center. Is that what is going to be done?

Yes, sir.

All right. And how many beds or rooms?

We start in phases. So we'll initially build 40 beds. And just to clarify, the rehabilitation is for physical, occupational speech therapies only. And then we have an expansion plan to add 20 to 30 beds. more beds, and that is all part of this presentation.

And you mentioned you're from Alabama?

Actually, I'm originally from North Carolina, but yes, our company is based in Birmingham.

All right. Just one question. Happy that you're here. Welcome. Thank you. What brought you to Indian Trail?

Yeah, for any new hospital that we build, we want to make sure if we build anything that there's a patient base that we can serve. And so typically that's based on the diagnoses that the larger hospital systems are sharing on a public basis. Because of the nature of the inpatient rehabilitation program that we provide, a lot of our patients are in the 65 plus demographic. And so we're sort of right in the sweet spot, having the pleasure of attending tonight. And, uh, the obvious care that you all provide your, your residents, uh, I'm, I'm, I couldn't be happier, uh, that to become, or potentially become a member of the Indian trail community.

All right. Thank you.

Yeah.

I have a question. Did I hear you say speech therapy?

Yes, sir.

Okay. And you're going to start out at 40, 40 beds. That's correct. And the reason I asked that my daughter is a speech pathologist. So that's great, I guess. And she works in Indian Trail. So that's great. And I didn't know that that now for you said you're going to start out at 40 beds. Yes, sir. Uh, what, what do you think you might max out at?

Uh, I think the max would probably be 80, 80.

Yeah. And, um, this is something that I don't think people realize is, is the, uh, in at the atrium hospital. That's right here in Stallings.

That's right.

How, how big do you guys think that, how many beds do you think that hospital is? It's a, it's a big building, but it's 40 beds.

Yeah.

And, and I think people assume that it, that it's a lot better. That was my assumption.

The first time we came in the market, but now, I, that was my assumption that it was a lot bigger. Yes, sir.

Yeah, I did. It was mine. There's a lot of doctor's offices and stuff there too. I'm assuming that's a 40 bed, uh, hospital. And, uh, I guess there's a lot that goes on, but it does look bigger. So that's why I'm trying to visualize how big.

Yeah, we like to sort of spread it out. If we can keep it to a one-story facility, that helps us keep the cost down. Our patients, from a regulatory perspective, are required to have exterior-facing windows. So we have kind of a funny-shaped facility ultimately, but it means that we want to make sure our patients aren't seeing an asphalt farm when they look out their windows, so we like to fit in Um, it's, uh, obviously a very beautiful area, so, uh, we can rely a little bit on the natural, um, environment that's already there.

Well, we're excited for coming that there's sure. Thank you for, for, if there's no more questions, uh, there's no one that has signed up for, uh, to, to speak for against. So can I get a, uh, I'll make a motion.

So to open and close public hearing on favor unanimous. And then while I'm at it, let me make a motion. Okay. Make a motion to approve ordinance number 430 pertaining to petition ZM2026-0056 as presented. All in favor? Anonymous. And then I'll make an additional motion to adopt the statement of consistency findings for ZM2026-0056 as presented and read into the record by Mrs. Dees, our staff.

All in favor? Unanimous.

All right. Thank you.

Very good. Congratulations. Brings us to old business. E-bike safety educational campaign. Ms. Ball. We're moving along tonight, man. This is this is good.

Pressure's on.

We have seven minutes.

All right.

What did he say?

I have seven. We have seven minutes. We're trying to get done by 730, right? So we have seven minutes.

Abby, this don't pay any attention to what you just said.

All right. Well, good evening, Mayor and Council. Several meetings ago, you tasked staff with developing an e-bike safety educational campaign. And shortly thereafter, the town manager and I met with Captain Mullis and some other representatives from the sheriff's office to brainstorm some ideas about the best way to go about that. Bobby, can you pull up the flyer too? We came away with a number of ideas and we've kind of divided those into two phases. The first phase includes the graphic that you see on your screen, which differentiates the kind of bikes that you can ride and the requirements for each. This will be used as handout at events given to riders by the sheriff's office and sent to HOAs to share with their residents. Phase one also includes a page on the town's website, which has the same information and also additional safety tips. We've also created social media graphics that the town and sheriff's office can use as well as a brochure. And phase one, you'll see launched by the end of the week. Phase two includes some larger and more time consuming initiatives, such as a video with the sheriff's office and potentially a safety course set up by the sheriff's office. So we'll begin to work on phase two as soon as phase one rolls out and we kind of receive feedback, see how it goes, see if we need to make any tweaks from there. But our goal is to educate residents on how and where certain types of bikes can be ridden and how to do so safely. Captain Mullis, anything I missed?

Great.

Any questions?

Would you please share any information that you get back from the HOAs or the neighborhoods about how they feel about this and later on if it's working?

Yes, absolutely will do. Thank you.

Very good. Okay. That brings us to Mr. McLam, CIP discussion.

Is the timer still on?

Good evening, mayor and council.

Um, would like to just talk a little bit more about, uh, the five year, the new five-year CIP plan that we've presented at the last council meeting. Just a reminder, um, the FY 27 through 31 CIP and any CIP is not just a list of projects, right? Like, yes, there are a bunch of projects in here. But what it is is it's to show the leadership and the direction that the town's headed and how we're going to fiscally responsibly fund those projects. How we can work with different mechanisms and different things that are available to us to be able to actually fund the projects that y'all want to see happen, that the public has said that they want to see. We've had quite a few conversations in the past we've talked about over the last year, worked with finance, went out and worked with our financial advisor and created a pretty in-depth model. It's about the most sophisticated thing I've seen come out of something like that. This model can look at everything from tax rates, it can look at the debt service capital reserve fund, which is that five and a half cent. It can look at using just your general fund. It can balance those two. You can do inputs to change that information. We can change growth assumptions for the town over time. We can pull those up. We can push those higher. We can move them around as we need to or as we see fit. It has different assumptions that we can put in that are built into the model right now related to expenses and where we see those going forward in the future. We talked a lot during this year's budget cycle about how do we sustain this? How does the town sustain its growth and how does it sustain the spending that happens to make sure that the services are provided to the citizens? We can put those into the model. It can look at all town funds. It can look at debt versus pay-as-you-go models. It can look at grants. It can look at outside funding. So all that is built in, and we can use all of that to show how these projects can be funded. myself and the team needs is we need a little bit of a discussion on what projects does council really want to see funded that are in this plan? If it's all of them, that's good. We'll bring you back a plan that can do that and we'll explain what the steps and the processes are to get there. Or if there's ones in here that are like, we definitely want to see this one done, like we want to see this model to be able to understand it. That's the information that we need. If you look at different funding sources, remember there are all kinds of funding sources that finance uses to help fund projects. You have your general fund, you have your debt service capital reserve fund, you have the capital reserve fund, so that's the separate one that's got the two projects in it. You've also got stormwater. But that's all internal things. There's also external. As all of y'all know, we were graciously awarded $200,000 through the state's budget. Thank you to our representatives that got that put in there. That's another way that we work to fund projects is through outside funding. That can be through state or federal projects. It can also be through CRTPO. I mean, Todd works and Mr. Also works tirelessly to get projects funded and push through there for us to be able to get that funding. Lastly, what I'll say is we just have to figure out which models the council wants to go with. Is everything pay as you go? Because that'll set the pace for which projects can get done. Are there some projects that council is open to potentially a little bit of debt for to be able to push those projects forward? There's also, you can do a combination of those and we can continue to look for outside funding. I think I've said a lot. I'll stop and let y'all weigh into it a little bit.

Okay. Any, uh, yeah, where this way. Okay.

So based on what you're saying, you're looking for some direction, right? Based on the list you gave us. Yes, sir. So I know for me, just personally, we are working on Indian Trail Road right now. Yes. And then we have Phase 2 that's partially funded.

It's partially funded right now.

So that's one, yeah, thank you for bringing that up. That's one that I'd like to look at as well from using the five and a half cents, right? I'm just speaking for myself. The rest of the council can offer their opinion. The other one I'd like to look at also is the public works facility. But that one I'd more or less look at from a phased approach, meaning phase one, two, and three, where we put a building and we put a parking lot or something around so we can park the vehicles there and store salt. As you know, that was one of our big issues when we had that winter storm a couple times this year, I think. So that's one. And then as we go forward, we can add stuff to that, right? Those two I would look at more or less from the standpoint of using the five and a half cents or some partial debt service. The big one, the big ticket item, and we don't have a final item, a final cost on that. We're working through that. would be the community center to understand what type of debt that we would have to enter or undertake. The length, if it's a bond, there is going to have to be a tax increase to be able to do that. So that's something that I'd like to know as well. Doesn't mean that we're going to do that, but I do think that giving us that sort of information there. And then, you know, there are a couple other ones that we can look at, but I think based on getting the information on the two items, the public works facility and the Complete Street, would sort of give us an idea as to what else we can use or what else we can do using that to see, you know, if we have enough funds, if we delay the project when it starts, that sort of thing. I hope that helps in terms of where I'm coming from. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. That's all I had, sir.

Clear here.

So I go to a lot of conferences and people are always shocked when they hear that we try to operate or we do operate, um, off 17 cents and, and the way we do it. Um, you know, so I think the council seems to be trying to bring in as much commercial as possible to help set off some of these things. And, um, you know, I would like to perhaps is there a way that maybe we can survey the people? I talk to a lot of people about how can we fund this or what would they be comfortable with? Is there a way to maybe do a survey to hear what the people want? You know, whether it's I've heard people say that they would be okay with a tax increase if it means bringing more things. what is it every one sense is 930 something thousand dollars yield yeah so i i i would like to you know if it's possible maybe look into that because that would bring a accurate representation and i would feel comfortable doing my job representing what the people want i I'm restoring a house in downtown Monroe, two blocks from downtown Monroe, and I am jealous from the things that I see and how busy they are. And I just read something recently about Waxhaws downtown receiving some awards and things like that, saying it was the place to be and we should have that. So if possible, I would like to see a survey and maybe that could help us with direction as well. Thank you.

Yes.

Anybody else? No? All right. Well, nobody else speak. I agree with a lot of Marcus's sentiments. Public works facility, of course, the road is partially funded. and uh we're gonna have to a a lot of work to do i i and and before you get misquoted uh clarence um clarence did say he did not say he wanted to see a tax increase because you you can very well well be misquoted by saying that clarence said that he's talked to residents who said they wouldn't mind seeing a tax increase. So don't hopefully nobody runs out here today. So we're going to raise taxes because that's that's not what what was said. Another thing that I realized, too, is we talk a lot about, you know, Monroe. We talk about different towns. It has a lot of things. And any trail doesn't have a downtown. We have no downtown. And that's OK. We're a bedroom community. We have very low taxes. We have, our tax rate is one of the lowest tax rates of any town our size in America, which is huge. It's number two in the state of North Carolina with 50, the 50 largest cities, Indian Trail's 25th largest city. And we're the second lowest tax rate. So we operate on, we do a good job with what we do. I know we're talking about a community center. We talk a lot about economic development. We need an economic development person. We need this. We need that. I will say that in my opinion that a community center will be the biggest economic community economic thing that we can do it would be built as our plans are building it across the street right near Indian Trail Road right with the park and it would be a facility that we'd all be proud of something that would be very similar to us, like a big YMCA with basketball courts. We were talking about a theater, a movie theater, but auditorium for bringing in groups like me, like Marshall Tucker Band and stuff like that that might want to come here. Or we have Lanty Performing Arts here who wants to move into the facility that does plays and things like that. And if we had something like that in our area, it would bring in a lot of economic development. It would bring in restaurants, it would bring in things that people say that they want to see. So it would keep our money in Indian Trail where people don't have to take our money and go to Monroe or take it and go to Matthews or go somewhere else. So and I know the expense of that's a lot of money. I will say this, that I attended the Mint Hill Center when they did that. I think you also attended it. And they got $18 million from the state. I'm not saying we're gonna get $18 million from the state, but we're gonna ask, we're gonna ask for sure. And that would help with a lot. My intentions here would be, and I would hope everybody on council would feel the same way, We're talking about a building that might cost as much as $40 million or would cost $40 million. And that's a scary thought. And I want to do it without raising taxes. I want to do it without raising any taxes. Whether or not you have to go ask 40 different people to give you $1 million or whether you get lucky and you ask one person to give you $40 million and they put their name on the side of the building. I want to see what's best for our town. I think... I was here, and I'll get off my soapbox here in a minute. I was here 13, 14 years ago when we talked about the parks, and we put it on a bond referendum. I'm not saying we need to put this on a bond referendum, but we did, and it got voted in, but a lot of people didn't want to see it, and it's, I think, the single biggest economic development thing that we've ever done 14 years ago. Uh, so, uh, a lot of times it, um, seeing is believing. And I just think this, this would move our town in a way in a very positive direction. Um, Indian trails known for its parks. It's known for bringing 10,000 people into the, uh, for, for family fun day. It's known for all the ball fields. And as it is, if you heard, uh, uh, Hayden talk about the, the, the all the programs that we have for children is amazing. It's amazing what all is done. It's a great place to raise a family. It's also a great place for old folks like me to live in, too. So you know what? Old folks move into move into the town when their grandchildren live there. Am I am I correct or am I not correct? I see more people that say, what are you doing here with my grandchildren live here? So I want to bring people's grandchildren here. I want to bring the seniors like me in here. So I see things that get put out there that And I've emphasized this over and over again. We can't ask for money until we approve this bill, until it gets approved. I see on social media all the time that I haven't raised a dime for it. Well, I can't raise a dime for it and neither can anybody else until we have a model, a model that shows what it is. But I have big dreams. I have a Looking forward to seeing what we can do and I think I think we can get whatever we asked for We just got to keep trying and if it takes us five years to do it, it takes us five years to do it I don't think it will but I think it's a it will be a great thing And I would like to see us also do that without any of the what I was thinking Yes, sir Adam the mayor's said on a couple occasions that we can't solicit donations for this

Can you elaborate on why we cannot?

So if we don't have a plan or a model or the exact layout or what the building is going to look like, we can't go ask a private donor for funding. They're going to say, what is it going to look like? What am I going to have as part of this event? So that's that next step. You heard Hayden earlier talk about we're going to bring back in the next, you know, couple of next month or so a design contract for that design. So that is what we're going to bring back for council so that we can take that next step.

Thank you. I just wanted everyone to understand why he says that. Sure. Thank you.

I don't think I think most people understood why I said that, but that's OK, Tom. I'm glad you asked that question. the uh the thing about that also is is they do have to see it and it it's it's more than just going out and going to atrium or going somewhere else say hey we're building would you buy a car if you didn't see it i mean you know i got a great car but you know can i see it you know well this is really not I get it. But but what I'm saying is, is you have to we're going to have to market this. We're going to have to get a marketing company. We're going to have to show somebody, Tom, you have to show somebody what they're buying or what they want. If it's if it's an atrium, if it's if it's the Sayre building, if Richard wants to throw in 30, $40 million into it or whoever it It has to they have to have a vision of seeing that. And that's why that's why we keep saying that. And and listen, instead of saying, you know, you know, ask why wait and let's all get together and do it. So anyway, thank you, Adam. And if there's no other comments, we'll move on. Can I make one? Sure. You go right. So

If council is is amenable to it, what we can do is I heard a couple of projects that you'll definitely want to see potentially funded. I did hear looking into what it would be to to get a little bit more input from the public on the plan as well. let us bring back a couple of scenarios and a model that include the projects that were talked about tonight, maybe one that includes trying to fund the majority of what's up on the screen, and we'll see what it looks like. We'll bring one back that maybe funds just the partially funded projects, right? We don't put any more money yet to the unfundeds. We just kind of try and fund that middle section. And while we're doing that, that'll give council a chance to look at it and see what that has, and then it'll also give us a chance to potentially reach out and get a little bit more input from the public as well.

Mayor, can I for a second? Yeah. So here's the thing. I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time, and it's not going to cost us any additional money to get that, right? This is an in-house model that we're going to use, right? Yeah. Here's the concern I have, and I think the idea is well placed, the intention is good, but the concern I have, and I'm not saying that in any negative way at all, but that we do not get a lot of participation in the town in our meetings and so on. And I think it's a reason because the public feels very confident and comfortable with what we're doing in town. People are generally happy. If people are happy, they're not going to come to a council meeting and sit here, right? But what I've seen in terms of some of the surveys, we have, what, 46,000 people in town, roughly? Some of them are young people, and they're not going to respond because they're young. They don't get that. But it's the level of response we get to really help make an informed decision. When we get, like, 3,000 people, even during the elections, we get, like, what, 3,700 people voting? that's the only concern i have of that while we wait before we move ahead we don't have to agree to um fund anything in any way but i do agree with you in that i gave you two of my kind of top and then the third one But if you can come back with a model where you've modeled all of this, right? I think that's just more information that we're going to get in order to see what's the best path forward. And it could come into where we look at it from a 5, 10, 15, 20-year capital improvement plan that even after we're long gone off from the council, other people can look at that and figure out ways to do that. I mean, I think that's the thing. I just don't want us to only rely on the survey to kind of point us in that direction, because the response rate, especially around now, may not be the greatest. And Mr. Osboros, this is not me saying it's a bad idea. I'm not saying that. My concern is that how do we get people to really, really respond and be involved in this? That's my concern.

And I know Hayden might have been wanting to come out of his chair back there a minute ago. I'm not sure. But we did do a quite extensive mailer all out to the town of Indian Trail about the wants of a community center. And this was no sales job. We were just asking questions. And Hayden was is much better off than that. But it was overwhelmingly looked upon positively. Uh, people wanted it. Uh, so that, that is something that we have done. We, we have, have, have done that. So, but with that being said, we got a lot of work to do and, um, um, Hopefully we'll all work in the same direction and try to get things done in a positive way. Like I said, we have a great tax rate. We won't keep it that way. We don't want to raise taxes. But we want nice things and we want to keep them right here in town. I think we can do it. I really do. I'm very positive. It takes vision. You got to have vision. You got to have vision to how to do the parks years ago. We got them. We got the best parks in Union County every year, voted the best parks in Union County. It's a good, good thing. I'll shut up. And if you're done, I think.

Thank you all for the direction.

Thank you. All right. The we're getting almost to the end here on new business. We've got social media posts and this was put on By the mayor today, I put this on. I apologize if a lot of you don't know what I'm going to talk about, but a lot of you will know what I'm going to talk about. We get a lot of social media posts in Indian Trail, and some are true, some are not true, but we have some that you can't write back on. In other words, people make social media posts, but they don't allow people to write back and give a rebuttal to. one of the people are or if you're familiar with, it's called the Weasel Report. If you ever see it, it's it was a Facebook page of one of our council persons and that council person is not here today. but they write a lot of stuff on there that just is not true. There's no truth to it, but they don't allow people to write back on it. So they have a following on there, and if you can't write back on these social media, if you can't write back and say, look, here's my version, or here's the real truth behind it, People don't know they dished a lot of people. They look at these social media media and they go, Gosh, and I will give you an example of of what the latest one was and one of the latest ones, another one popped up today. And I want to point out what is absolutely not true, which the whole social media post was not true. But we'll go through a little bit of it. And then I have a statement that I want to make and I want the town if council will vote for it. to put it out because so many people, there is a following of this that believe what's said. On this post this weekend, it said that the mayor was the primary delegate to CRTPO, which is Charlotte Regional. It's a road project that's through federal funds. And I am not the primary delegate for that. Mr. Alsobrooks is the primary delegate for it. It was voted for on council. As a matter of fact, I was on it for almost two years or several years, and I quite enjoyed it. Mr. Also Brooks also attended all those years. Mr. Also Brooks attended it long before he was even on council. I have a great respect for him for wanting to do that because he wanted to learn what it was all about council. After about a year and a half, Mr. Also Brooks come into every meeting. There's only one seat at the table. And there's probably 40 towns that are there. I don't know, 30, 40 towns that are there representing the whole Charlotte Mecklenburg area and county surrounding it. And we get federal funds through that for our roads. So Mr. Also Brooks asked if he could be the primary delegate. he's the best there ever was at it. So that's who our primary delegate is. And Clarence, do you want to elaborate on that at all?

well just it's true what you said i had interest in it i when i ran for council i heard that we had you know well i know we had traffic problems and i knew the best way to be involved in how to fix that problem was to be at the crtpo meetings uh by I heard that from, you know, I was educated by you and from Mr. McIntyre about what I could get at CRTPO. So I took it upon myself to go to the meetings and CRTPO is a, it's a lot of information to digest. So it took some time, but It's very important to me because I feel like I have a big part in what goes on with the traffic or with the roads in Indian Trail. I love to come back and give that information to the people. I am the primary. NCR TPO, the chair is actually the mayor pro tem of Stalin. So not everybody that is there is the mayor. Normally the mayor is the primary delegate, but there are a lot of seats that other council members feel versus instead of the mayor.

Mayor, let me add to, can I add a little bit to that, sir? Go ahead. Yeah, so the thing about our CRTPO, I served there, and I wasn't the mayor at the time when I served. I've never been the mayor of Indian Trail.

I'm the only mayor that has served on it in a long time.

Yeah, but our mayor also at the time, I think Mr. Alvarez, was the one who It sort of defaults to the mayor, but the council, so choose, can have somebody go in. And I think before I served on CRTPO, Mr. Moss, who was on the council at that time, was the representative. And I was the alternate, and then I became the primary, and I think, I can't remember who else was the alternate. The point I'm making is, Even recently there was some news media thing about Monroe and Charlotte and they want to find Charlotte and so on. And our representative Clarence actually, Mr. Alterbrook, sorry, the Mayor Pro Tem, served on there and was able to really, he had some really cogent points that he was trying to make and therefore we weren't caught up in all that, you know, sort of issues that were going on. So when I saw this particular thing, I was very disappointed. Disappointed because I look at it as the council, we're trying to get things done in internal advocates for roads and so on. And I'm just very disappointed to see that sort of, that Listen, we're all grownups. Those lies, it disappointed me to see that. Because the thing is, I'm trying to figure out, okay, where is this coming from? Not to mention, the information is not, and the decisions as to who served on the board in December, I was at that meeting, I was sworn in that night, they were unanimous. So I'm just trying to figure that out. In our case, here in Indian Trail, and as do other towns, if the person goes and they're doing a good job, you applaud them. We've done so on numerous occasions, even received updates from Mr. Alterbrooks, and I think he's doing a really good job at that. So, you know, I don't see the need for that, being honest with you, to be able to come out there and put that sort of information. That's very divisive, you know, and it invites, you know, that sort of negative thing that portrays our town. I mean, I was trying to get out of here at 7.30, and You know, here we go. But but in any case, that's all.

I just want to wrap this wrap this up as quickly as possible. This is just one thing out of many, many social media posts that are completely and I know some of you nod your head because you sit in these meetings, you hear what goes on and then you see what's written and you say that's not what happened. What at all? But this social media post went on to say that the mayor doesn't go to these meetings because i'm chairman of the abc board too not only that i do coffee with the mayor i do i do i do i try to do a lot of things i hope to be one of the busiest mayors i love my job i love what i do i love speaking to people i love love what i do so But I was appointed to ABC many years ago because we weren't getting money here. And we weren't getting money from the ABC stores like we were supposed to. I didn't ask for the job. The council appointed me because they wanted it fixed. We fixed it. We fixed it. We got $300,000 this year from the ABC stores. So we're doing very well. They're not perfect by no means, but they don't. But the social media piece says that's a paying job that pays it pays a whopping $250 $300 a month to work very hard for trust me very hard. I've worked Saturdays and all sorts of different days to do that. But What's not mentioned in this post is I give much of that money to charity simply because that's just what I do. That's what I believe in. So that's not mentioned at all. What he's saying is in the social media post is Coleman's in it for the money. He's in it for the money. Remember this if he wants to run again. Well, he wants to run too, so he's trying to put You go in a positive direction. Don't go in a negative direction and make up things that are bad. But I just wanted to tell you some of the things. And I'm not here to pat my own back, because I don't do that. Anybody that knows me here, I don't brag. I don't tell you. But this fired me up. I'm going to tell you a few things that I gave my monies to from the ABC store. Back to School Bash, Boy Scout Troop 270. And I give checks. Those checks are the money for those that go straight to these people. Food for Families, Smile. Alan Trusinski, who was a friend of mine of the VFW and a lot of you are nodding your head. I paid for a, when he passed away, suddenly passed away. and we did a fundraiser for, I paid for every food that went to the VFW or got it donated and we raised over $10,000 for his family. So I do work at what we do. I've paid for VFW steak night come on the third Friday of every month. So bring your own steak and then we'll supply the baked potatoes and the salad and we have a good time. We do and it's always for a great cause. I've supported that. And I could go on. I've paid the electric bill for people that's had it in the past. But again, Common Heart, Council on Aging, Lanty Performing Arts, those are all things that I contributed. That's not mentioned in these posts. All it says is I'm in it for the money. So this has gone on for years. This isn't a thing. These posts have been going on for years and years and years. and it makes it very difficult on this council. So I had a little help in writing this, and this is what I would like to be written on our social media page, so here it is. Tonight is a reminder of what this council was elected to do, get things done. just look at what we've accomplished together a new chestnut parkway now open eight new pickleball courts welcoming residents a new road project out for bid at chestnut square park a balanced budget with no tax increase final designs for chestnut square park phase 2b and the continued design work for our future community center. Those are just a few of the many positive stories unfolding across Indian Trail. Unfortunately, there remains one voice that consistently chooses division over celebration, criticism over collaboration, and pessimism over progress. The people of Indian Trail deserve better. As your mayor, I want our residents to know this one individual will not stop our progress, distract us from our purpose or deter this council from its mission. We will remain focused on delivering results, serving our community and building an even stronger Indian Trail for everyone. Tonight, should remind us why the people of Indian trail and trust entrusted this, this council with the privilege to serve. They didn't elect us to manufacture controversy. They elected us to deliver results. And that's exactly what we've done again. Chestnut parkway is open eight new pickleball courts, a new road project for chestnut square. We passed the ballot, but a balanced budget with no tax increase. Final designs are underway for Chestnut Square Park phase two, and we're moving forward with a design of a community center that will serve generations to come. Yet while our town continues to move forward, there is one member of this council who seems determined to focus on division instead of progress, negativity instead of possibility, and conflict instead of community. My question is simple, when will it end? Uh, as mayor, let me be equally clear. It ends where the commitment to the people begins. One person will not derail the momentum of this council. One person will not overshadow the incredible work of our staff who are simply the best, uh, volunteers and fellow council members. And one person will not distract us from the mission. The people gave us to build a stronger, safer, and more prosperous Indian trail. I am very proud to say that we have one of the lowest tax rates for a town our size anywhere in the US and have the second lowest tax rate of the 50 largest cities in North Carolina, with Indian Trail being the 25th largest city. Our Sheriff's Department make us a model city across the United States for how safe our town is. It is for a town our size. We have good schools. Low taxes, safe city, good schools, great parks, great staff and we have a lot to be proud of here. We will keep moving forward, we will keep delivering results, and we'll let our record, not the rhetoric, speak for itself. Now, what I'd like to do is, that statement, I'd like to be posted on our social media, so post, and I think I need a vote from council, if that may be, somebody like, you got something?

I'm just looking at the social media policy under 10B. The particular post will be discussed at the town council meeting and the misleading or inaccurate information is to be addressed. A motion may be made directing the town manager to prepare and post on the town's Facebook page a statement. The motion shall state the misleading or inaccurate information that is to be corrected. So I just want to make sure that the motion has the misleading or inaccurate information that you desire to be corrected.

Well, OK, I more or less said what the what the inaccuracies are. And I would I would prefer not to put all the inaccuracies on there simply because I want to give him any publicity with with what it goes on. I guess then what I'm asking for is just for the council to give permission to to for me to to have this put on our social media. Is that not possible?

as a statement from you or OK, not from the town manager.

That's right. A statement from from the mayor.

Yeah. I mean, if if they authorize that.

Right. That's what I was asking. Yes. Yeah.

OK. Yeah, I was I thought this was dealing with the social media policy.

So it is it is everything. But I made this statement and I purposely made this statement not to go and not use a name, not not to to to make a make the problem even more because there'll be social media posts off of this that will come not true either. But we need to stop this. We need to stop it. And I think most people, and I know people that sit in this room and watch these meetings know that it's not true. Here's the problem. Many of you I see in here tonight are seeing you for maybe one or two times. You don't come. People just don't watch meetings. So if you get a following on social media and you don't allow people to write back on it, you don't allow people to say, hey, that's not true, and that's all they're doing is writing things on social media that aren't true, then it gets frustrating. It's very frustrating. Um, and that, that, that's basically what I'm saying now. I, I do want, you know, let's have this conversation and I want to get this done at the same time. I do want it to be a statement from, from the mayor and the town. It, uh, uh, it, or it can be just from the mayor, but I feel like the town backs what I'm saying. Any comment?

Marcus, you look like you want to say something. I do. Tom has something. Let Tom go.

I don't know that's appropriate. I understand that it frustrates you with the post that you're reading on the Weasel Report. However, I don't think it should be... means shouldn't be to defend you know something that offends you I'm a no on that and I don't think it's appropriate for us to use town again town means

Let me just say this, Mayor. I'm going to make a motion right now, and people will vote however they want, but I'll make a motion that we direct the staff to post the mayor's statement on the town's site or Facebook page, whichever one is appropriate, addressing those very comments that the mayor just made here.

Okay. Well, I appreciate that. Uh, uh, Clarence, that, that was a motion though.

All right. Before we go into the motion though, I'd just like to add a comment beyond being a council member. I will like to say, because as a witness to what you said, um, when you're elected official, you get a lot of invites to a lot of places. and they're asking you to bring your wallet. So you and I go to a lot of places, and I've seen you invest and give a lot of money, but other than that, I've seen what nobody else in here has seen. I've seen you invest in people to help people, and I almost would promise seeing you write checks that people wouldn't believe. to help people out. So I really, people in this room would not believe the amount that you've written to help people out. So I will say as a witness to that, I witnessed it with my own eyes and I know that's true.

Well, just let me say this too, just for the audience that's in here today. It's not, uh, Mr. Amber, you said this about me. He said it about our attorney. He said it about Mr. McIntyre. He said things about, uh, missile, Mr. Also Brooks. He said many things against anybody that's either running against him or against him. So it's not just me. I'm not, I'm not looking out for just me and every single one of, you know, that he's created just false stories. This whole story that he wrote the other day was completely false. There was nothing about it that was true, and it's happened many times. And it's not just me. Uh, it, it, it's about everybody up here. So Mr. Mr. Ambergy, uh, I understand the way you feel because he's your friend and he writes good things about you. So, uh, and, and, and, and, you know, if it were me, if he wrote good things about me, but he was lying, I wouldn't accept it, but that's the difference between you and me. So with that being said, we have a motion on the table. Yeah. Uh, can I get, uh, um, all in favor of that motion? Mr. Also Brooks, Mr. Harlock. Uh, so three to one, three and all against, uh, three to one passes.

Thank you, sir.

Thank y'all. And I'm sorry we had to go through all that, but every now and then we got to go through this and we did it. And I hope everybody understands, um, which now it brings us up. We're, we're got one more thing really before we're going to close out here is, uh, yeah, Mr. Hunsinger.

I have a lot of questions on his presentation, by the way.

Well, I'll tell you what I do, too, and I think a lot of people in here have a lot of questions. I have a lot of questions for you. This one's a save the best for last, I think.

They're not directed at you, but you are the guy who knows. Yeah.

Well, unfortunately, this is not a pleasant subject, so we're going to continue this downturn of us meeting. All right. So I'm here tonight to talk about the town staff's process with dealing with our third party utility companies. These are your fiber optic companies like Ripple. Everybody knows Ripple came through here a couple of years ago, installing fiber to pretty much throughout the town, pretty much at every subdivision in our town. And so now we have others that have decided to move forward with their infrastructure. And so we want to Kind of give the public and the council and the mayor an insight of what we have to do as far as a process to make sure we keep these folks in line as best we can. You're not allowed to leave, Crystal. You've got to stay. All right, so. so what we as a staff you know obviously when they come to town sometimes they just start submitting plans they don't you know uh to our portal and we don't get an email or anything so first thing we want to do is contact the the company that's doing it usually the the submittal process is basically the contractor third party they've hired like an att has hired somebody to do this work We obviously don't get the owner. I call them the owner. You're going to see that throughout this presentation. The owner is like the Verizons, the AT&Ts, the Googles. They hire these contractors or these consultants to go out there and do the plan and try to get the project started. um so we asked for a meeting for them just initial meeting just to get to know them and then we um then the plan submittal process starts and then we of course do a plan review of it and then we have a pre-construction meeting before the uh construction starts and then there's a thing we'll talk about with public outreach by both parties the town and the owner And then the encroachment approval process starts. And again, we'll talk about the difference between plan approval and encroachment approval. And then, of course, there's conflict resolution, and then it closes out of the project, again, because obviously it's construction, so everything doesn't go 100% correct. Utilities get hit, stuff like that. Homeowners get upset. So it is part of the process. So the initial contact meeting again, we set up the meeting in person with the owner and basically just got to get a sense of, you know, what's their plan or plan just to come in and do some maybe maintenance, meaning they've got infrastructure out there, they're trying to upgrade or they actually put in new stuff again just to get to know who they are, who are the individuals we're going to deal with throughout this process begin because once they start, it takes two or three years. I mean, I think Ripple took almost three years to get everything done. So this is going to be a long process with these new companies coming in that I'll talk about at the very end of this PowerPoint. And so again, try to get a sense of that. And then we try to tell them how we're structure, you know, you know who we are, who you're going to deal with. Talk about our, you know, mention our communication director, Abby, because she's an important part of trying to get this out to the public. Let no one is this this construction is going to start. And then discuss the overall project scope and their plans for the next few years. And then at the end, we talk about our plan review process so they get an understanding of, you know, how long it's going to take, you know, when they issue the plans and all that. So the plan submittal. So the owner begins to submit the plans in our Evolf system, which is our online portal that all private development goes through. So it's the same process as a commercial site or subdivision would go through. Uh, these folks are doing the same thing. Um, we don't have, we can't, dictate how many plans they send so sometimes they'll send three or four at a time right off the get-go and so uh and then just to get you to understand that they are gis based drawings meaning uh they're not like construction drawings where you go out and survey the actual uh properties and everything you get elevations and all that these are just uh basically a layout of the the streets and the parcel lines and then they're putting their lines Where they would think they can fit them and you have details in the back that kind of explains Okay, they're going to depth doing this vice versa again. You can't go out there and expect Individuals to try to find a private your private systems like your water service lines your sewer all the other utilities going on and The locates do that, but your irrigation system, they're not gonna know where that's at, so a lot of times, sometimes that gets hit, so those things are not gonna be on those plans. Now, to say that, we do as a staff, when we start reviewing those plans, If we see that there's going to be a problem, like there is a tree, there's a flower bed in your front yard, that that's not on the plan, we're going to make them go out there and survey that and make sure that that line is not going to encroach on that person's amenity, if you want to call it that. So there is a back and forth when it comes to that, but just to get you to understand what we're having to deal with when it comes to plan review. And then again, plan approval and encroachment approval. Like Evolve-wise, when we say we're approving that plan, that is not to mean they get to go out and start doing the work. The encroachment agreement is the mechanism where they are allowed then to move forward. So plan approval starts, and I'll get to the next process after that, but for right now, the plan approval is what they get, and then they get the encroachment later. So plan review, we only have one person designated right now to do plan review, and that's just so we stay consistent with each plan, because we've got three or four companies putting the plans together, and we don't want, you know, when we have, we're all human, so we look at things differently, and so if you get two different individuals doing different plan set reviews, they can see other things, other ones, and you don't want that company to sit there and have to go through that back and forth. So to stay consistent, we're just keeping one person to doing those. So the applicant receives approval or a denial, basically with comments stating what's wrong. They have to address those comments, send a response letter, and then we move forward to the second review. All plans have to adhere to our UDO and LDS guidelines. UDO is obviously our Unified Development Organs. LDS is our land development standards. Again, this is a little different, so there's not a lot to go by with those guidelines, but they do have to follow a few when it comes to those plan sets. And then easements and right of ways. Now, you'll have some folks... You have some subdivisions out there that have right-of-way, obviously, because they're public streets, but they actually have easements behind the right-of-way. Some of these third-party franchises, if you want to call them that, they may elect to use that easement. Well, if that's the case, we still do the plan review to protect the HOA that's over that subdivision, but they have to go through the HOA at that point if they want to use that easement because it's outside our right of way. so that is the conversation they have to have between the hoa board and we we've already had that started going on in a couple subdivisions they haven't these folks haven't started those subdivisions but they have uh they have submitted plans where they're starting to engage the these hoas and then again you've got a maintenance versus a new installation and uh so you've got some companies and i'll talk about these at the end that are actually make uh upgrade an existing line that's out there But most of them are actually doing new installation. All right. So the pre-construction meeting again, it's it's scheduled out. They get that first plan submittal approval approved by the town. And what we do is we only allow them to start on one plan, like they may have three or four plans in the system because this is their first project. This first time we're dealing with this contractor, they only get one plan set approved and move forward with. So the owner contract must be present. That pre-construction meeting is obviously important for the contract to be there. We're not going to have that meeting if the contract is not going to be there, because again, we want to ensure that he understands what we expect when he gets out there to do the work. Main topics of discussion is basically the contractor's methodology, public outreach. Again, we're going to talk to them about what they've got to do, what we've got to do, and we'll talk about that in a minute. And then we have an encouragement agreement, parameters we discuss, and then property owner issues, sure remedy. Again, you're going to have property owner issues, and we want to understand what is their game plan to keep up with this, because they obviously are not going to be able to fix it right at that day if it's an issue like with an irrigation system or something. but they've got to be able to show they're going to keep a database and stay on these uh issues so the property owner's not just sitting there idle not knowing what's going on and then a town action plan i call an action plan just a fancy term but basically if these workhorse keep persistent we stop all work You're not gonna get another plan set from us approved. You're not gonna get to move forward with it because if you got a lot of work, property owner issues in one subdivision that you're not addressing in a timely matter, it all stops. And that usually gets their attention because they can't afford to have that contractor stay idle. They want to go to the next subdivision once they get stumped, the initial one. So again, it's the only tool we have and that's what we use. So public outreach. Um, so the owner is, this is what discussing in the pre-construction meeting. Basically they have to do well in the initial meeting as well. We do bring that up, but basically they have to do door hangers a week in advance of the start and they have to have an interest sign. at the main entrance of that subdivision. Now we don't ask them to put, if they got two or three main entrances, we don't ask them to put them on all three main entrances, just one, to say, it's usually the primary one, because obviously we know most subdivisions where the primary entrance is for it. At least have a sign out there that has a name, a contact, a 1-800 number, whatever it is that the property owner can contact And obviously if they can't get a hold of them and they're having trouble, obviously they can call us. But the main goal is they need to talk to the owner first. And then equipment signage. Again, we encourage these companies to have logos on their trucks. Again, that's hard to do sometimes. They show up, they don't have them because... I don't know why. It's not that expensive to put a logo on a truck, but it has happened where you just have a bunch of white trucks, don't have anything on them, and the homeowner's calling us saying, what is going on? What are they doing on our property? So again, got to keep communication up. In town, obviously, Abby is a part of that meeting. She's the one that we keep informed so she can put it on social media and let these people know when it's coming. Also, we reach out to the HOA management company. if we can't get the magic company but we will email the board but we mainly go to the management because usually the hoas that's what they want they want us to go to the management company and then management goes to them and so we've been actually doing that and uh we actually got one coming up pretty soon i'll talk about here in a minute so approaching approval so okay plans have been approved Pre-construction meeting has been completed. And at that time, we'll start executing the accroachment agreement. Obviously, the public outreach is going on around that same time as well. But, you know, we can't not wait to after they do the public outreach because, you know, these folks, you know, they got to spend money on that, too. And if we if they're hesitant that we're going to hold that agreement over the head, you know, sometimes, you know, it's just some comfortable situation for them because they they want to spend the money. They don't want spend money if they don't know they're going to get actual full approval. So we've got at least issue at the end. and then move forward with the public outreach. So that's kind of how it works. All right, so conflict resolutions. All right, so only gets one plan approval, like I told you. If install goes well, multiple approvals will be granted. For instance, to get one approval, one subdivision, they do pretty good. Maybe you get one or two bad calls from property owners that got to get fixed, but nothing major. We'll move forward and give maybe two subdivisions next, right? And we just keep moving the process forward, and we did that with Ripple. Ripple had a terrible contract when they first started, and I apologize for what subdivision had to deal with them at the beginning. Terrible contractor, stopped to work, had meetings with them. Contractor got fired. And they got a new contractor. Well, that new contractor knew what he was doing for the most part, trying to keep people's yards in decent shape, put the tarp out there, put the dirt on the tarp, put dirt on grass because it's hard to get off the grass. I mean, stuff like that, little things like that goes a long way. So that's how that works. As long as it keeps moving forward, we'll give them a couple subdivisions at a time. and keep the contractor moving um if not then a meeting request is requested by the town uh to basically talk about what's going wrong with this car you know what's why is the contractor doing this why is he doing that all right once we're all satisfied with the communication of that we'll allow them to move forward and then again if it starts back with bad habits again town goes back to bullet three stops approvals and we do meetings again and keep just losing money. And that's just how it works. So, you know, just to wrap it up. So, you know, obviously we're trying to keep this This process is as less complicated as possible. It's good for the owner, it's good for the town. We don't wanna, and you don't wanna overcomplicate it too much because it's construction. It just doesn't work out well when you do. But we try to make sure the owner keeps his end of the partnership. Again, as long as he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, everything runs smoothly, we'll keep moving forward. Keep citizens informed is obviously very important. Make sure assisting citizens as best we can. If they're not getting communication properly through the owner, they can contact us and we'll try our best to get that process moving forward for them. And then, of course, stay on the owner about citizen work issues that may arise in the process. So let you know that there's four companies right now with plans submitted. You've got AT&T Gigapower, you've got Windstream, you've got Google, and you've got Frontier Verizon, which is representing Verizon. AT&T Gigapower actually will be in Annandale next week. Their goal is to do about 37 miles in the next two years. As you know, we have 100 miles of streets, so... So they're slowly going there. I think the reasoning for that, and I think the reason why they're picking certain subdivisions is because you gotta have a primary line along that state road. And if they don't, then obviously they're gonna pick those certain subdivisions first where they have existing infrastructure. So I'm assuming Poplin Road, they've got existing fiber. So they're working on getting other fiber extended along state roads, so that's why, It's going to be a multi-year process. They're trying to do 16 miles the first year and 20 something miles the next year. And so it's going to be a slow process then because they don't have all the infrastructure along the road yet. Wind stream. I'm pretty sure they're trying to do the whole town. And they've got some upgrades where they've got existing lines in certain places that are trying to upgrade. So they're kind of a mixed bag between those two upgrades and new installation. And then you got Google ready to move forward throughout the town. We got a conversation with them. I think they're gonna move next after AT&T. Windstream, we've not heard from them, so we're not sure where they're at right now. And I think Frontier's ready to move forward as well. And they basically are telling me that there's a lot of Verizon lines that are existing out there that they're trying to upgrade. So they're upgrading facilities at this moment. They're not putting in new facilities. But again, I'm just talking to contractors, not actually Verizon representatives, so I don't really know what the master plan is yet when it comes to that. And I'll be happy to take any questions.

So, I mean, I like choice. I think it's very American. I like that.

It's capitalism at its finest.

Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, I like choice. But the thing is, I mean, I have Ripple Fiber right now. And you're telling me that I'm going to get four other options. I mean, where are they going to put all those lines in there? And I ask that question because on Saturday I saw – A GENTLEMAN FROM UNION COUNTY SORT OF MARKING THE LINES. AND I HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM. YEAH. AND HIS THING TO ME WAS, PLEASE MARK IT, LIKE, NEXT TO THE HEADS. YEAH, FLAG IT, YEAH. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ALSO, BECAUSE I LIVE IN ANANDDALE, SO I GUESS I'M, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE GUINEA PIGS, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO GET TESTED NEXT WEEK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT HOW CAN WE ALERT CITIZENS to do that because the mayor himself, when Ripple came through, they tore up his irrigation system. I mean, they tore up his irrigation system. The guy spent around two days trying to fix it because he couldn't really figure out what was wrong. But how can we inform citizens or residents of these um issues and i mean i know some of the staff live in annandale who work at the town and yeah phil stone farm which is right next door but you know i know we can't prevent it because uh internet is seen as a utility right now right But I'm just trying to figure out, I mean, from a cost standpoint or just an investment, I don't think they're going to get that return because they're basically just pricing themselves down. Because there's one company, Ripple, all through the town. I think Windstream has some pockets of fiber, Fieldstone Farm being one of them. But how can we alert people that when they're coming and also maybe some not things that they must do, but probably some suggestions. So when I mow the grass this weekend, I'm going to put up the flags. But for those who may not be in the know like I am, is there a way that we can alert some people as to some of the things to do to prevent that possible damage?

yeah i mean we could obviously obviously we can put on social media but we could talk with the i don't know what that's i don't know what the door hangers actually say uh because i haven't seen the giggle powers door hanger yet but we could possibly get them to put that on the door hanger as well and just say hey look these are the things you might want to personally locate yeah that we're not going to have because um Most folks, wind streams, I've heard some horror stories about wind stream just trenching, you know, just keep trenching. But most folks, you know, they dig a hole and they bore through a couple parcels so you're not actually trying to, you're not cutting through lines. So that's what you should do, you know, pick a hole right beside somebody's driveway and then go a couple, three lots away AND BOARD. BUT AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR DIFFERENT METHODS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS.

I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, CAN A HOMEOWNER SAY NOT IN MY YARD? NO. No, because I spelled it right away. All right. The front yard.

Now, the HOA, if they're doing that easement, they can deny them being in that easement.

I mean, they don't have to approve them to be out there. All right, good. And then the other thing is, for instance, AT&T comes out next week. They bust my line. How do I get in touch with them? Do I have to call the town? Because, I mean, I'm at work in the office. I come home. There's a big flood, you know. Especially, I mean, I'm just asking how... They're going to have to fix it. Yes, we know that. I don't have to pay a lawyer to get them to fix it. But who do I call? Is there a number that they're going to? I'm asking those questions because people who may want to know. How do we get them to repair it? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOUR IRRIGATION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOUR WATER SERVICE? WELL, ANYONE. I MEAN, I HAVE BOTH. FOR THE IRRIGATION, I HAVE, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL THERE.

RIGHT.

IF SOMETHING'S BUSTED, HOW DO I KNOW WHO TO CALL?

Most of those contractors, if an irrigation line is busted, they know how to crimp it to close the leak, like right instantly.

Especially now with the water restrictions.

They know how to stop the water for those private systems. If it's the water service line, which would be on the main side of the service, the county would have to fix it and not on your side. So you would have to call Union County Water. But these folks, this 1-800 number, they're the ones that should know who to call after that. When they put that sign up in your subdivision and on the door hangers, I mean, they're going to have a number for you to call. That's what I was going to say.

The number that's on the door hanger, and this is for any subdivision, whether it's Annandale or whether it's Brandon Oaks or it's Holly Park or whatever subdivision. The door hanger will have a phone number for the company that is doing the installation at that time. Now there's subs doing it, but for that company, whether it's Giga Power or Google or Frontier, it'll have a phone number and the sign in the front of the subdivision will also have the phone number.

So, yeah.

And you can always, I mean, somebody can always call us. Yeah, but the thing is. We're then going to direct them.

Yeah, but the thing is, the town is not the one installing it, right? Right. And that's the thing. So, for instance, two weeks ago, my internet was out because Gigapower, they were digging some stuff. That's who it was. I didn't know who at the time. but they were doing some, and I had to call Ripple, but it wasn't Ripple who did it, right? So it's kind of like hot potato who to call, that's why I asked that question. All right, I don't know, man. It would be nice if we could deny some of those guys, but I know we can't.

Melanie would not legally allow us to deny any of them. I wish we could, I wish we could.

No, unfortunately, we'll get sued.

Yeah, I wish we could, because it's ridiculous. I mean, I'm not gonna switch, so. but they can run their lines. Yep.

I have a question. Any. Yes, sir. Running fiber lines. Is that part of a phase for new construction or like a second or third phase for a new neighborhood before they can come online? Is that is it required one more time? So let's say a new neighborhood has been built.

Okay.

Are they running fiber before the neighborhood comes online or is it something that they take priority with the new neighborhoods?

Yeah, correct. Like I think how it works is that these type these type of companies will contact those subdivisions are being built like the developers. and they'll work out a deal where we'd like to come in and get our stuff in, because they're already working with the gas company or whoever else that goes. So I think that, and we don't get involved in those conversations, so I don't know what gets put in the ground besides what we monitor, but I think that's how it works. They just basically are contacting these home builders and working with them during the process of the construction.

Thank you. Any other questions?

All right.

Well, no action is needed. So thank you for the update.

Not a problem.

All right.

That brings us to manager's update, Adam. All right. I'll make this pretty quick. First one is actually asking for council's approval to do something. As I stated earlier, state legislature awarded the town $200,000 with y'all's permission. I'd like to send a letter to our representatives from the town, from y'all just saying thank you officially from the town for that. Now that it's the budget has actually been signed and is fully in place. So

YOU NEED A MOTION OR YOU JUST NEED US TO READ IT?

I'M JUST GOOD. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PART OF THE BUDGET THIS PAST YEAR FOR THE TOWN BUDGET WAS A NEW WAY TO REACH OUT TO CITIZENS. WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE GET TO CITIZENS AND THEY HEAR FROM US. Uh, Abby has been working diligently on the biannual report and that is gonna get out to the public. Every citizen in town that has a mailing address will get that mailed to their house. Um, that'll get there in mid August or so is what we're shooting for right now to get to all residents that it's kind of like a magazine style newsletter that everybody will be getting. Um, talked about earlier. I forget who said it or multiple people. I think I've said it. We have bid out, uh, Todd and his team has bid out another project right now. The internal park road, uh, for over here across at chestnut square park is on the streets. If you know anybody that wants to bid on it, please have them do it. We're looking for a good price. Um, Abby last week, uh, put citizens Academy on out for people to sign up for. We are already full. We already have, uh, and are gonna start on a wait list as of tomorrow morning. So, um, took one week and we're already full. So, uh, that I think that's a testament to all of the team and the things that they did and put into that. And then everything, uh, that Abby does to push that out through social media. Council will be getting an email from Abby with all of those dates so that if you want to put them on your calendar to come to any of those sessions, you'll have those dates and they can be on your calendars. And the last thing is coming out of the state budget bill. This is on the opposite side. The town no longer has the authority to regulate off street parking. SO IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A LOWE'S HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE WITH TWO PARKING SPACES, YOU WILL BUILD A LOWE'S HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE WITH TWO PARKING SPACES. THAT'S JUST YOU AND I. YOU'RE GOOD. that that was that that's as a result for water ship some water that was that was the argument being used right that was one argument surface water and so surface water storm water was one argument um another one was just the expense to put in parking some municipalities regulate minimums off of square footage and it didn't fly. Brandy, help me if I say something wrong. They just the calculations weren't good and it got to some powerful legislature. I know it's just it doesn't in the law.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we're going to do the best we can, but that's just one thing that we're going to be working through. But we told you we were tracking some bills and that's one of those that actually did did go through. So

that's it i'm good go ahead we're gonna wrap this up councilmember mcintyre oh yeah let's go

All right, I was going to make it brief, but I was trying to end at 7.30, but yeah, we're all past that. So as we conclude tonight's meeting, I have a few things that I've written down here. As we conclude the meeting, just... I want to remind or I am reminded of the story that Indian Trail continues to be one of progress, not just in words, but in action. And as promised, I'm going to mention this every single meeting. We've celebrated recently the opening of Chestnut Parkway, improving connectivity and safety for our residents. I took my wife on it a couple of days ago and she was really impressed. I let her know that, hey, when I'm not at home at night, here's some of the things that I'm trying to help us get done. So I got a kudos on the back, attaboy. We've opened eight new pickleball courts, giving families and neighbors another place to gather and stay active. We've adopted the budget, as the mayor mentioned, no tax increases. And we're moving forward with phase 2B of the Chestnut Square Park and plans for the future community center. Hopefully we can arrive at a good plan and get a number so that we can start use that as a means to raise funds to point people to. And then there's another step that I saw a couple nights. For those of you who are not, I probably suggest that you go out there. Anytime the town puts a project out to bid, you can get an email when that goes out. I think that email came out 12 something on Saturday night or Friday night. One of these nights thought I saw it and I was like, yeah i felt really good that's the internal road for the park going out to bid so when i saw that i i really felt here we go again engineering guys moving the town forward right um so those things are things that are going to lead us to you know unlocking the full potential of the park and being able to serve generations to come um tonight it was an honor to recognize mr sutton by naming a street in his memory i want to thank mr also brooks our town staff adam his staff fellow council members for making that happen mr sutton's dedication helped shape indian trail into the community we enjoy today and it is a fitting it is fitting that his legacy will live on for future generations You can see that he's a very modest man. He doesn't like the attention. He was, I want to say, nervous, or he didn't really want to say the pledge too much because he doesn't like the attention. But it's good that the council chose to recognize him. um i also want to thank everyone who attended our july 4th parade this year's celebration was especially meaningful i got to drive in the parade never done that before so thank you hayden and we come we commemorate commemorated our 250th anniversary of american independence this is a historic milestone milestone and reminds us of the enduring values liberty service and community that continues to define our nation The turnout was really good, very inspiring, and it was really good to, I didn't get a chance to see it, but to hear that the mayor was walking the period route, shaking hands, kissing babies, talking to residents, and being among the people. In many towns you do not see that, but in Indian Trail, the accessibility that people have to the mayor is something special, and I believe it's part of what makes Indian Trail unique. On a lighter note, I have one request for Parks and Rec's director. Next year's candy budget needs a little boost because I ran out of candy. I did not, I mean, I had to get to the end and I was giving out one candy and people looking at me like, yeah, this is a cheap politician right there, so we can't have that. But it's a wonderful problem to have. Progress isn't promises built one decision at a time. With healthy debate, that can always take place. But we should also take a moment to appreciate what we've accomplished together. Every road we complete, every park we improve, every responsible budget we adopt is another step toward the future that we want for our residents. The measure of a council is not in its words or its social media posts. It's in what it leaves behind. I believe we're leaving behind a stronger, more connected and more vibrant Inland Trail. And I truly believe that the best chapters of our town story are being are still being written. Thank you all. Have a wonderful evening and God bless the town. God bless America and God bless all of you.

Councilmember also Brooks.

Thank you, madam attorney. Um, I would say I'm not gonna take as much time as councilman McIntyre there, but my excuse is I'm gonna just use the time of the two council members that are not here. So I'm glad to hear about citizens academy being, uh, full funny story is I had someone from the past citizens academy reach out to me and said, mr. Also Brooks, I wanna run for, uh, council. What should I do? And I said, well, you know if i run you're running against me so i can't tell you all my secrets but um it is great to see citizens involved but you know what i do realize that these seats aren't ours these seats belong to the people of indian trail so it's not mine to protect so i gave him as much information as i could with that said great fourth of july parade again staff thank you uh fourth of july parade of course we celebrate this country and the people that fought for this country with that said there will be some engraving for the plaques out on the veterans memorial garden There's a private citizen who reached out to me and said that there's some scholarships available if anyone needs help with that. So feel free to contact me if you need help with that, you want it engraved, but you can reach the town at 704-821-5401 for the talks of having your loved one engraved, name engraved. I want to say thank you to Lenti Performing Arts. Great performance with Mary Poppins last Saturday. Really enjoyed it. Some of the things that they do. If you don't go out to see their performances, you're missing out. They had Mary Poppins flying through the stage there. So it's worth seeing. Speaking of performing arts, Indian Trail has Indian Trail Art League, and I asked them to give me a little something so I can read. They're looking for people to join. Indian Trail Art League is a nonprofit organization dedicated to supporting visual artists. We promote the development and advancement of artists. We are proud to be working with Indian Trail Park and Recreation on upcoming community art projects. A recent past project was the mural done by local artists on the graffiti wall at Cricket Creek Park. We are committed to bring in more creative opportunities and public art experiences to Indian Trail community. We meet the first Tuesday of each month at 7 p.m. at Town Hall, except in August we will be meeting on Tuesday the 18th, and we'll be offering a free Zentangle class that night. Please look into it if you're interested. Let's see. Also for Council Member Buchholic who heads up the Adopt-a-Cop, Adopt-a-Cop will correspond with National Night Out, which is August the 4th, the first Tuesday from six to nine. To participate where you can adopt a cop, you can reach out to her at cbuchholic at gmail.com. and she'll be happy to sign a deputy or someone from the office to you. With that said, thank you who made it through the meeting, and everyone have a good evening.

Council Member Ambergy.

I think the good thing about being last is they steal all the thunder, and Marcus can't be beat. No, I just want to say God bless you all, and Jesus loves you. Good night.

Mayor Combs.

Couple things up. You talked about Mary Poppins and the flying around. Real quick, I'd tell this. I took my daughter to see Peter Pan in New York on Broadway, and Peter Pan got stuck in the ceiling flying around, and they had to stop the show and get a ladder and go up there and untangle him. I don't know how many people can say they saw that, but that actually happened. So a special night. But anyway, I want to remind everybody I've mentioned earlier, coffee with the mayor is dinner with the mayor. July the the 28th at 6 o'clock at the VFW. Please come. We're going to have a good time. I hope y'all come. Y'all aren't going to be here, are you? Yeah, you're going to be gone. But the rest of you, please come. We have a good time. And you can ask questions and all that good stuff. We have on July 23rd for we have Facebook Live. We have the American Legion. We have Ken Wise and Richard Privet and Dominic Leo. That's Thursday, July 23rd at 1 p.m.. That ought to be a good a good one. So July 4th parade was was done very well. I was glad to see everybody and even had a few comments. Andy asked me if I walked the whole route. He said, did you walk that whole route? And I said, yeah. The one thing I've managed that I've thought about that that helps out is usually I ride. And when I ride, I throw a piece and eat a piece. I throw a piece and eat a piece. But when you walk, you ain't got time to eat any of it. You got to walk. So you actually it's a good diet way to do things. So I didn't eat any candy this year. So anyway, Mr. Sutton is a legend. Thank you for all the hard work, Clarence, in getting that sign done. Thank you. You did a good job. Deputies Garcia and Frazier, I don't know if anybody noticed when Deputy Frazier was telling his story, he kind of lost it a little bit. And that's kind of deputies we have working. Andy, thank you and you guys for all you do. We're very blessed to have you guys as our sheriff's department and appreciate it more ways than one. So anyway, with that being said, I hope everybody enjoys the rest of their July. We don't have another meeting until later in August. It's the second meeting in August. I don't know exactly the date. Come back. And that'll be kind of wrapping up summer. It's hard to believe that the next meeting will be not wrapping it up, but the school will be started again and things change. But anyway, can I get August 11th? It's all, it's all, so we do the first one and it's just August 11th. Yeah, it is August. So we, we, our meeting is not, we do have one in August. I knew that I always, I always say that every year, I think we ought to do it the other way around. That makes no sense because August 11th, kids are still out of school and you got, and when, and, and we, then we postpone the meeting at the end of the month when Kids are back at school when you want to go on vacation. Thank you all for coming. God bless everybody. Can I get a motion to approve? Motion to adjourn. Yes.

Motion to adjourn.

Unanimous.