Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Hello. On September 17, 2026, we will hold a meeting of the Minister of Public Business on Thursday. Christine, please check your attendance.

Brad Chance.

Address. Ted.

Ruth. Address. Mackie. Terry Mattel. Address. Steve Ward.

Address.

Steve McRucky.

Address. Les Bowen. Here you are. Good. July 16th meeting. Let's take a look at the two sets. First, I will ask for your consent for this meeting. Have you all reviewed it? Approved. Yes, there is approval and rejection. Christina, please check your attendance for both meetings. Yes, we will ask for your consent for the second meeting. And there is a meeting on August 20th. We need your consent and re-appointment for this. Re-appointment. Re-appointment. Yes, now both places have been confirmed, so you can check your attendance at once.

Thank you. Brad Chance.

Yes.

Ted Ross.

Yes.

Terry Mattel. Yes. Steve Ward. Yes.

Dean McClucky.

Hello.

Lesbot Wright. Yes. Yes. Yes.

All confirmed. You're all doing great. Now, here are a few announcements. In the last few months, we've been talking about some of them. I know you were interested in the best announcement to better understand what BES is. And the AMI part is something we've always been interested in and asked questions about. It's nice to see this announcement. Then I'll hand it over to the person who will start the presentation first. Lisa, Mike, or...

Would you like to speak first?

Yes. Yes, then. We asked for a presentation with Kieran from Burns & McDonnell. I think it's ready. Yes, I can talk as much as I want here, but the slide file has not been uploaded yet. Then please gather around the laptop. Yes, if you all gather, we will have a simple campfire time. Before the slides are uploaded, I'll start the presentation right away. You're welcome to ask any questions. My name is Kieron. Thank you so much for inviting me. Rich asked me to talk about the battery. When the slide file is uploaded, it will be written as 1898&co on the slide. 1898&co is the consulting department of Burns & McDonnell. In 1898, the name of the company, Hera, established by Burns & McDonnell, was derived from there. I am a member of Burns & McDonnell. I have been in the company for 13 to 14 years, and for the past 8 to 9 years, I have mainly focused on the energy storage field, especially fixed energy storage devices. Our company has been particularly dominant in the market for the past 8 to 9 years. ENR Magazine has been selected as No. 1 in both the energy storage device design category and the power category. This is what I told you to let you know how important my experience is in this field. Now, let's finish a simple safety training and look at a few topics. What is a battery energy storage system, why do you use it, who uses it, cost and operation factors, etc. You can talk about various topics. You can continue the discussion in any direction, so please feel free to tell me. That's all I've prepared. Now, at Burns & McDonnell, we always think of safety first. Fall is coming and it's going to be hard to clean the leaves, especially the leaves will fall a lot from the big tree. So I have to use the right ladder first. Check if the ladder is safe, check if the pedestal is strong, and always check if it is in contact with the ladder at three points. When cleaning the leaves, be careful not to step out of the ladder frame or stretch your arms too much. Finally, when installing the ladder and thinking about safety, use common sense. Now, let me explain a few terms first. BES, BES, LDES, and you may hear me say PCS. There may be a lot of abbreviations. If there are too many abbreviations, tell me to stop. BES is a battery energy storage system. In the field of power industry, which I will mainly mention, It means a fixed energy storage device, and this technology is mostly generated in the electric car field. Therefore, it can be said that it is a very similar technology when talking about lithium-ion batteries. Lithium-ion batteries are a technology that leads the market in the field of power storage. There are many types of lithium-ion batteries. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to explain what a PCS is. PCS is a power control system or a power conversion system. It's also called an inverter. The power grid uses AC power, but the battery uses DC power, and this device is responsible for alternating between the two powers. When I talk about power, I mean megawatt, that is, instant power output. And when it comes to energy capacity, it means the amount of energy stored at a certain point in the battery. Batteries are generally rated by power and energy capacity, but the relationship between them is also important. You have to consider the charging time. For example, a 100MW 4-hour battery is actually a 400MW C battery. There are techniques with various chemical structures called lithium ions, and the three most commonly heard of them are NMC, NCA, and LFP. LFP is a technique that is commonly used in fixed-type energy storage devices, meaning lithium iron carbonate. In cars, Nickel-based battery technology such as NMC is used in LFP batteries as well. It is a kind of NMC Doritium-ion battery, but the chemical ingredients are slightly different. These batteries generally have higher energy density, but in fixed-type systems, energy density is not as important as in mobile systems. Therefore, LFP batteries are generally used in the automotive industry. However, this technology has been developed in the electric vehicle industry, so some cell technologies are very similar. For example, there are cylinder-shaped cells similar to AA batteries, and there are pouch-shaped cells and square-shaped cells. Square-shaped cells used in the automotive industry are about the size of textbooks. And in there, put two or three layers of foil and apply slurry on top of it. Roll it up like a jelly roll and fill it in a mold like this. This is just one battery cell. Think of a textbook. If you put 50 of these cells in a module, It weighs about 90 kilograms, and it's going to be about 60 to 120 centimeters long. And I'm going to put these four modules in a rack and put six of them in one enclosure. Think of the standard form commonly seen in the industry as a container box that can be seen on the road. There are 6-meter or 12-meter enclosures, but in general, the industry uses the standard 6-meter enclosure with this battery rack. Each rack has a control system that acts as a brain for the measurement of the rack. This control system communicates with the enclosure level control device. Lastly, it communicates with the project site level control device that interacts with the power grid. Do you have any questions about what it looks like when this system is actually installed? If you install these systems on large-scale projects, in the end, you will see hundreds of enclosures for dozens of very large projects. Once again, think of structures with heights of 8 feet, widths of 8 feet, and lengths of 20 feet. Let's assume that these structures are stacked at several feet intervals. For example, a 250-megawatt project requires about 5 to 10 acres of land in an energy storage facility, and additional acres of land will be needed depending on the voltage used by the power grid or the project power plant. In addition, access space and rainwater management facilities for maintenance and safety must also be considered for design. Then, what are these facilities used for? Why does the industry require energy storage? For example, in California, Do you know the curve? So this is In particular, it is related to how renewable energy is integrated in California, and California is related to the integration of renewable energy in the United States, and it can be said that it is a kind of test case for the change in power supply. In general, power consumption shows a peak in the afternoon and sometimes a peak in the morning. Batteries have a variety of uses, but the two key factors that lead to all of this are how much manpower can be supplied to meet the peak demand. The peak is usually in the late summer afternoon. This is when people come home from work, turn on the air conditioner, turn on the lights, and cook. The power supply is the highest. So power companies have to think about this. You have to handle this supply, but you need a lot of power. The energy storage device can be a piece of this puzzle. It can be added to the built-in capacity stack. But what energy storage devices do not only when producing energy, but also when releasing it, For example, it is often used to move the peak of solar power generation. Solar energy is produced the most throughout the day because solar energy is formed in the form of a vortex, but this is not always the peak time for power companies. Therefore, it is possible to adjust the peak by moving energy throughout the day at a late time. The reason why this is called the duck curve in California is because This is because the number of solar panels has increased as more and more solar power generation systems have been introduced. So, instead of drawing a curve that rises again when the power consumption reaches its maximum in the morning, it actually seems that the number of solar panels is decreasing. If all solar power is added, the number of solar panels that other generators have to deal with will decrease. It's like drawing a curve like a duck boat, and then it suddenly rises in the sun. Therefore, the battery is used to move the overall development profile of solar power generation to the right. This is one of the important reasons why solar power generation is introduced not only in California but also in other regions. California is just a test case, and batteries can be used for dozens of other purposes. Even if it is not carried out simultaneously, many people are doing power price difference trading. It is using real-time price information by moving peak times or using the retail market. So many companies can make a difference by using batteries. You can buy it cheaply and sell it expensively. However, the usage of batteries is mainly due to solar power generation integration or wind power generation. For example, when clouds come in, solar power is reduced, or the wind stops, the battery... It plays a role in filling that gap. Or when necessary, it can be discharged to distribute the load. I talked about the capacity of the worker earlier. The battery is also used to stabilize the power network. This is a case where the power company installs it in front of the meter and uses it. But sometimes it is installed behind the meter. Many people are using batteries for residential or commercial power. It is mainly used as backup power. Although it was not well mentioned when used for residential or commercial purposes, it can also be used to reduce its own peak and lower demand or limit time-divided funds. So, if you look at the big picture, there were several factors in the integration of energy storage devices over the past 10 years. In addition to the few cases I mentioned, the government's incentives, obligations, and policy goals have led to a large growth in the integration and implementation of energy storage devices. In particular, over the past few years, the price of gas turbine projects and gas turbines has risen significantly, and competition has become much fiercer in the case of public capacity use. In the past, it was normal for peak subwoofer 용가스 터빈이 비용을 결정하는 기준이 되는 것이 일반적이었지만 이제는 배터리도 그 자리를 대신하고 있습니다. 따라서 많은 전력회사들이 차세대 공인 용량 수요를 어떻게 충족할지 고민하고 있습니다. It is an important decision factor to choose between batteries and peak subwoofers that can supply power for 4 hours. And if you have to save energy for a much longer time, For example, saving 24 hours or for a few days. Even in the case of seasonal storage, the NN Li-ion battery may not be able to meet such long-term requirements. Therefore, the industry as a whole is developing new technologies for these long-term storage requirements, What I want to focus on here is the current usage case, which is usually 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, and 8 hours of storage time. Do you have any questions about usage cases, requirements, reasons for use, and users? Yes. When talking about cost, construction, and schedule, I think it is very important to understand that most large-scale energy storage projects are equipment itself. It may sound like an obvious word, but if I show you the pie chart, you can see that the cost is about two-thirds of OEM, that is, the cost of a raw material manufacturer or integrated company, also known as a system integrated company. These are the companies in charge of the manufacturing and installation of the equipment. The reason is that most of the projects have been moved to the manufacturing environment rather than the field environment. All components such as the cell, module, rack, and enclosure mentioned above are generally made in the manufacturing environment, not the field. This is a big change in the industry over the past 5 to 10 years. Yes. In the past, the customer had to deliver the binning closure and install the battery directly at the site. It was a work of connecting the wiring by putting four modules of about 90kg each. There were even cases of working inside the building. However, due to various reasons, such work has been transferred to OEM companies for many reasons, such as increasing cost efficiency and ensuring repeatability in the manufacturing environment. Now, it is often included in the same enclosure as the inverter and the front charger transformer. So, in general, when carrying out such projects, Preparation work is done first. It will be prepared so that the project can be carried out through non-stop work. If you need to construct a well for rainwater drainage, we will take care of it then. After that, the basic construction is carried out. There are various methods such as concrete mat basic Na-Maltuk basic, Na-Sonic maltuk basic. And after that, there is a lot of repetitive work. To connect the cable from the battery to the transformer, the underground trench must be dug. Then, install the cable on the external port and connect the power, control, and communication connection. And repeat this work until the project is completed. Then, according to the customer's requirements and design, easy operation, test, etc. will be carried out. Therefore, If the entire project is considered from the development period to the completion of construction, it may take 3, 4, or 5 years. However, The process of approval of environmental conditions, the government, the local government, and the federal government. It can take a year to two years, and it can take up to three years to complete all the processes such as design, land ownership, etc. suitable for the surrounding area. And then, the remaining two-thirds of the cost I mentioned will be dealt with as an EPC project. EPC means that the contract company is in charge of the design, delivery, and implementation of the rest of the range. For example, a company such as Burns & McDonnell participates in designing and delivering the project based on the selected equipment, and conducts installation and testing according to the specifications. This entire process will take about 2 to 3 years because of the equipment delivery period. It doesn't take that long because you need a 12-month delivery period for the battery. Generally, the longest time it takes is for high voltage equipment, which is already well known to power company officials. However, it can take 2 to 3 years to get a high voltage converter or a circuit breaker. due to the high demand. Therefore, the project period may be shortened, but the actual site work takes several months to design and deliver. However, it takes about a year for a 100MW or 200MW project to be put on site. This is much shorter than the delivery period. And, It takes a few more months before the actual power is supplied to test the system and check the operation status. And after recharging the power, we proceed with a test run to check whether the system is working properly and whether all control devices are working normally. Then, we carry out the field recruitment test. In other words, we document whether all the requirements of the system and the OEM are met. Do you have any questions about the development and construction process? Yes, yes. You said it takes five years to completely build this type of system, but at this point, is it possible to partially build it and connect it to a power grid? For example, you said you could complete this in a year and complete that in two years, but you said it would take five years to completely build it because of the equipment. Is there a point to gradually introduce large-scale projects five years ago and gradually reduce existing systems? Or is this a step-by-step construction method? I understand what you mean when you say 100MW emergency power plant. Yes. If it's a 100MW emergency power plant. Is there a way to enjoy the effect while operating from 50MW and building the rest? Yes, there are definitely projects that are carried out step by step. 100MW in our industry is not such a big project. In the case of 1GW-class power plants, you can see the approach approach. For example, building 250 megawatts first and then building 250 megawatts additionally. There may be several reasons for doing so. The inter-connection waiting process that I did not mention here is also an important part. It starts with getting permission to sign the inter-connection contract. You can be approved online. Well, that too. It is one of the important parts of the entire development process we talked about. Yes, if you apply for 250, but after a year, the power demand will increase further, so you may need 252 more in that area. If you find out that you may need it, you can install it additionally. Yes, thank you. Yes, that's all I'm curious about. One of the problems we are currently dealing with is the installation location regulation.

There is no regulation now. Um, I'm curious if you have any advice or opinions on how much to drop from a house or a bottle, whether to use a wall or a barrier to secure vision. Um, there are regulations and standards for those parts.

Well, probably the most closely related to what you asked is the NFPA 855 regulation. This regulation regulates the safety and installation of energy storage projects. Yes, so this part is about the advantage and disadvantage of a specific product. For example, it should be more than a certain distance away from tanks or other materials contained in other containers or buildings. So there are related guidelines. In addition, other architectural laws and standards that the product should comply with are also mentioned. Various UL standards are also applied to the product. When manufacturing a product at a factory, certain safety guidelines must be met, and these guidelines are stated in the relevant regulations. I will only tell you that there are special opinions about this part and that there are related regulations. However, from the point of view of land selection, anyone who is in charge of land selection in any organization should understand that it is necessary to understand the surrounding area, social situation, approach island, and rainwater treatment requirements of anyone, whether it is simply a 3-acre land or a 300-acre land. In addition, the floodplain or forest area must be avoided. At first, it starts with a land of about 30 acres, Considering these advantages and all other constraints, the area that can actually be built will be much less than that. Therefore, the project must be within that range. All of this is part of the development process. Thank you. I have one more question. There was a little commotion in our region regarding the data center. The biggest problem or concern is noise.

How loud is the noise? How do you know? Can you hear it from afar? What does it look like? Yes, that's a good question.

It was one of the things to consider when choosing a sub-district. The problem is something to consider in all projects. The noise in not only the battery but also in all power plants is an important consideration. Let me tell you about the factors that cause noise. Each battery enclosure has an HVAC system and a heat management system. Fans, compressors, etc. cause noise. Therefore, all battery enclosures you purchase are marked with a noise level of about 85 dB from a 3-bit distance. And if you install hundreds of these devices, There's a formula that calculates how the noise accumulates, and I don't understand it well, but engineers usually model it. So we're figuring out that the noise is spreading out of the facility. Then there's a ring that spreads out like 55 decibels here and 45 decibels here. So in terms of design, what they do is not normal, but there are often regional noise standards. For example, it's like a standard that you have to do it at a 50 decibel or less than 55 decibels in the sub-border. So there's a way to use the distance to match the standard. For example, you have to buy land between here and there. Or if you can't solve it by distance or land, there's a way to install a physical barrier. It's like a barrier you can see on the highway. The noise problem in all projects is a very important consideration. It is important to know what the surrounding noise standards are and how the equipment should operate to meet these standards. Thank you. Do you have any questions? There are a few things I would like to ask. Could you tell me first? Um, 아마 가장 중요한 질문일 텐데, 이 점은 이해하지만 요금 납부자에게 미치는 영향은 무엇일까요? Will it help the income of low-income people? Or what effect will it have in the long run? We talked about the ratio of cost-efficiency. In short, the ratio of cost-efficiency from the perspective of low-income people. It's not about a specific project, it's about technology in general. From a general point of view, as you know, there is a process for a utility company to measure the cost. That will change depending on several factors. As you know, if there is a process for the Public Needs Certificate, there will be such a document issued by the Executive Committee. I don't remember exactly what it's called in Missouri and Kansas, but it's the Public Needs Certificate. Therefore, in order to develop a project, it must prove the necessity of the project. For example, the reason why an energy storage project is needed is because it is helpful in distributing peak emissions and efficiently distributing energy. And the cost must be justified through that procedure. In other words, it must show the legitimacy of the business of the Power Commission. Therefore, Project developers and owners must meet all regulations and standards and proceed with the project at the most reasonable price. Thank you. And regarding the question of cost, it depends on whether we build and install it ourselves or whether the third party does it. We're going to buy it. So that's going to affect it. In my opinion, if we built a city like the two cities we promoted a few years ago, That would have been part of the infrastructure of the IPL. I would have owned and operated the IPL. It would be different from when other power companies or other companies build and sell power to us. Yes, and the cost problem is interesting. Because, um, completely. It can't be called a new technology, but it's a fast-growing technology. Because applying this technology to large-scale power plants is new compared to the Wangbok engine Inaha gas turbine. Wangbok engine Inaha gas turbine has been used for decades, but this technology has only been around for about 10 years. And technology is constantly changing, and because the electric car industry has grown explosively over the past 10 years, the supply and demand of raw materials is changing rapidly. The materials have changed a lot over the past few years. So there was a big movement in this industry to turn it into domestic production. We have increased domestic production through taxes and tax incentives at the federal level. As a result, many companies are establishing factories, which is putting great energy into regional industrial development. Do you have any other questions? Yes, there are a few more. Some of them have already been mentioned, but I want to check them again because I checked them while writing a memo. I think the optimal system is the same as a peak load development device, that is, a fuel turbine. You need to be able to handle additional load. There are a few of those devices in the current system. So I'm comparing the optimal system in that way. How is the cost compared? As I said, we're going to do the same thing next time. I installed two combustion turbines two years ago, and it cost about $70 million for about 99 megawatts. How much would it cost to build a 100-megawatt battery energy storage system? Have you ever calculated? Wait a minute. I'll calculate it in my head. Don't think too complicated. However, generally speaking, in the past, the peak sub-6 fuel turbine was suitable for that purpose. However, as you know, the price of the gas turbine has risen considerably over the past few years, and the battery price has dropped. Therefore, the requirements to be resolved vary depending on whether it is 2 hours or 4 hours. To be honest, the battery puts the system on the line. Because of the loss of efficiency, the energy that goes into the battery is more than the energy that goes out, but it can meet the same requirements. If it is properly controlled and operated, it is effective as a peak load development device. Therefore, it is competing with gas development in certain projects. This is a decision that power company customers should always make, and price and schedule must be considered. For example, if there is a shortage of power supply in 2030, even if the price of gas turbine and battery development is similar, you cannot install a gas turbine by 2031, but if you can install a battery by 2030, this can be an important factor. I don't remember the exact number of 100 MW, but let's assume it's about $2,000 per kilowatt. This is similar to the gas turbine. Therefore, the cost is similar. Do that. I don't know that they are competing face-to-face in the project. Yes, I see. I'm looking at the memo here. I know what the leading factor is. You've already mentioned that part. The battery lasts short. 2, 4, 6, 8 hours. Yes, if you need a fuel turbine, it can run much longer. That's right. Yes, the installation area is quite wide. I don't know how much the installation area of the 100MW battery storage system, BES, and 100MW fuel turbine will be, but it will be similar. 10, 15, and 20 acres of land. Both technologies require a similar area. A complex cycle or coal-fired power plant would require a much wider area. And solar power generation is now 100 acres. About an acre. And we have that. Yes, I'm also looking at regenerative energy. For example, solar power, we have invested in wind and solar power. But now we're looking at the battery in the opposite direction. As you can see, the battery is hard to think of as regenerative energy like solar power. So, Yes, that's an important factor for me. And in the renewable energy industry, we treat batteries and wind and sunlight together. Why? Because many cases and ways of using batteries allow renewable energy to be integrated. Wind. Because ultra-sunlight is a temporary development method, batteries It is helpful to manage wind and solar power generation that cannot be controlled like a gas turbine. In other words, the battery storage device allows this kind of power supply control. As you know, all power plants have batteries installed. Family chargers use the same technology. But it's too difficult to find a charged charger when you need it. That's the problem. And it's a big problem in operation, but if you have time, there's something I wanted to tell you. You can tell me to stop at any time. It's a few hours and I can talk. Think about your cell phone in your pocket. A year later, the battery is not as good as the battery today. I have to charge it faster. This is a common phenomenon in the industry. It's called low battery performance. You can buy a battery and control the energy capacity according to your needs by reducing the performance decline. For example, if you installed a 100MW battery and the charging time is set to 4 hours, the power supply operator will be able to supply power up to 100MW at once. However, if you install an additional storage device, you can increase the energy capacity to about 400MW again. Case. Yes, very good. And I left a note here. In the previous meeting, it seems that the former IPL manager mentioned that according to the SPP requirements, the portfolio should have a battery storage device, right?

It is not a SPP requirement that the portfolio should have a battery storage device. However, according to the SPP requirements, battery equipment will be installed in the current ownership area, but this is not part of the IPL power grid.

Yes, good. I think I talked about that part, but I wasn't sure about the details. Mr. Rocket, did you have any other questions? Yes, you talked about the cost, but I think you talked about the installation cost. I'm not an engineer, so I'm not very close to an engineer, but I won't make a hasty decision.

The installation cost is also important, but in the case of using gas as fuel as it is now, additional costs occur. Let's assume that the battery is charged with solar power generation. The solar power generation system is actually free to install, so the operation cost will help increase the battery price.

Of course, it would be right if it was a hybrid system installed in the same location, but it is simply connected to a power grid. In this case, you have to pay for the energy you use to charge the energy. In other words, at a certain point, the power consumption must be considered. It is a concept similar to the fuel cost of a gas turbine. Therefore, when analyzing the cost-efficiency, all these factors must be considered. For example, let's assume that we installed a solar power plant in the city, but the profitability is not good. We paid for solar power at the time, but now the price has become cheaper, so we are suffering losses. However, if solar power is supplied to batteries and sold at peak times, it can reduce losses more than now. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's a cost-efficiency analysis. Yes, it's an analysis we do often for our customers. Because there's a term called difference trading that I mentioned earlier. You buy it cheaply and sell it expensively. For example, let's say there's a sufficient difference between the top and bottom 4K prices, which we call TV4, and the 4K price between the bottom 4K prices. Let's assume it takes 4 hours to charge and 4 hours to discharge. Then, how much is the total profit? That's what you're going to ask. Can that reduce the cost of battery installation? If so, yes, that's right. This is a case in which people are definitely considering. Thank you. Thank you for participating in my game. Next month, there will be an economics lecture. Yes, yes, I have to calculate everything because of you. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, do you have any other questions or opinions? Thank you so much for joining us. What we wanted was the Bass phenomenon. I understood what you were saying better. Yes, and how we deal with the situation and how we respond. I'm glad it helped. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you. Um, I have one thing to tell you. The presenter prepared a slide, but I can't show it to you.

In the first part of the quiz, those who are interested, including the presenter, will be able to refer to it later. All right. And if you have any questions, please let Rich know. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much.

네, 긴 시간이었죠. 다들 좀 쉬시겠어요? 괜찮으신가요? 좋습니다. 두 번째 안건은 AMI Opt-out 프로그램 발표입니다. 음, 그럼 넘어가시죠. 간단히 개요를 말씀드리자면, 지금 이 시점에서 명확한 Opt-out 프로그램을 시행하는 데 많은 관심이 있는 것으로 알고 있습니다.

I discussed the problem with the city manager and wanted to adjust the expectation a little. What I want to tell everyone watching with the committee is that even if we announce today's AMI, we have to expect about 2 years in the future. Therefore, the reason why we did not specify that a certain amount will be required for the proposal prepared for today's announcement is because we have to expect about 2 years in the future. We don't know the exact cost. Of course, we can't predict the future. It doesn't work that well. I hope it works well. Well, I'm still trying, but we're doing our best to solve the problem. We are 100% focused on setting up a selective rejection system through an official draft or resolution, and we are reviewing the most reasonable way. Yes, so today we will hear about what the system will look like and how it will be developed in the future. However, I will tell you again, but the specific content has not yet been decided. We do not know exactly how much each installation fee and monthly usage fee is. Because what will happen to the fees at that time? What will happen to the human resources? What will happen to the equipment cost two years later? Unfortunately, Like everything else, the cost of measuring continues to rise. In fact, I recently finished a month of education at the Natural Resources Department, and the cost of measuring for housing was about $30 in the past, and now it's $300. So, um, I'm telling you the overall inflation of the equipment related to it. So, you might be wondering why it's not being introduced in two years. Part of that schedule is related to the need to upgrade the hearing aid software. After linking the AMI system to the hearing aid system, we do not want everything that has just been implemented through AMI to be ruined by upgrading the hearing aid system. So we are trying to proceed according to the correct procedure in the order in which everything is necessary. Anyway, my story will end here. Thank you. Hello.

My name is James King. I am a member of TMG Consulting and I am consulting on C-A-M-I projects. I have worked in the utility industry for about 40 years. I have participated in various projects so far and implemented the technology of various companies. As a consultant, I also worked directly at a utility company. So I've experienced both sides of things. How things work, and I've experienced a lot of things myself. I've also collaborated with various AMI vendors for years. I've been working in the AMI field for about 15 years. I've been watching how AMI has developed so far. In fact, the AMI project I participated in for the first time was a project to connect the meter through a telephone line. Can you imagine? AMI has made a lot of progress over the past few years. Today, in front of you, I will actively support the AMI project that I am promoting in the city, and I would like to share my experiences and observations in this field. As you may have known about AMI 8 to 9 years ago, I will briefly explain the definition of AMI. It is a very brief and high-level explanation, but it is to help you understand the basic understanding of what AMI is. If you have any questions, please let me know anytime. I will answer the questions as we proceed. AMI is a technology and infrastructure that allows the meter to communicate in both directions with the data center. This improves efficiency. The most noticeable improvement in efficiency is the meter reading. You don't need to manually read the meter or send people to the site to check and solve problems like now. You can handle all the work through the communication network. However, there are many other advantages to AMI-N. It is easier to collect data more often and provide it to customers, and customers can check and manage their usage. In addition, it has the advantage of being able to secure more data from a power company. This is also related to what I mentioned earlier. When analyzing and evaluating the supply and demand of the entire network, it is helpful to find out where the power is concentrated. When is that? The amount of data to be analyzed depends on the customer's use. One of the biggest advantages of AMI is this data collection ability. Based on this, you can start modernization work, install battery storage devices, manage electric vehicle storage at the site, analyze power supply supply, solve problems, etc. AMI helps you to better understand the current situation, progress situation, and all possible situations. It also immediately informs you of emergency situations such as shutdowns or lags. AMI can immediately identify these problems that only examiners can know once a month. That's right. Then, how does the AMI system work? It's actually very simple. It's a structure in which a computer with a built-in communication device communicates with each other. The field communication network is implemented in various ways. There is a software system called the AMN-AMI head-end system, which is run on the server. And the CIS, computer information system, which we just talked about, is integrated with other systems such as charging system and analysis system. Therefore, it provides an end-to-end data flow between all components of the system. Not only does it read the measured value from the meter, but also, for example, if a customer has a complaint or question about the fee, you can immediately connect to the meter and check the current measurement value, current status, charging status, and other notification information. As you can see, the AMI system provides various functions. As you can see on the screen, As I said before, there are various variations in the infrastructure itself, and there is an early stage of understanding which system will accurately meet the requirements of the city. Various elements such as regional characteristics, terrain, and waterways must be considered, and each supply company and solution solves these elements in different ways. Therefore, will be continuously evaluated and reviewed to introduce the appropriate system. As I said before, the smart meter includes both electricity and water measurement devices. We are planning to provide a field network, communication, head-end system, and measurement data management system. We are going to build a large-scale data warehouse to collect all the measurement data. As I said before, we are currently collecting only one data point per month per measurement. However, if we introduce an AMI system, we can collect much more data. We will be collecting 96 measurement data. We can collect up to 24 data points per day per regular measurement, you can collect more data points per day per water meter. That's right. In other words, the amount of data that can be used to analyze collected data is much more. As I mentioned earlier, the integration function, security and operation, especially cyber security, are things to consider when evaluating solutions. So what are the advantages for customers? Of course, the number of visits to the site decreases. The number of visits to the home for measuring the measuring machine decreases, and the number of visits to solve the problem decreases. In most cases, instead of sending the field investigation team, you can solve the problem in the office. It also helps the worker's safety. For example, there may be situations where there is a dog or you cannot approach the measuring machine, and this problem can be solved. As I mentioned before, the visibility is improved, so you can better understand the situation. Everything works smoothly. The service response speed is faster. In other words, you can understand and respond to the situation without sending people directly. If you send people, it may take a day or two to handle it. In the case of a landline, a stop or a capital. When a landline occurs at a customer's house, it is detected and notified. You can take action quickly for the customer. More accurate reference information can be entered. You don't have to worry about data input errors or other problems. Because everything is automated. And of course, you can add various services in the future. As mentioned earlier, if a base is built with various additional functions such as distributed energy resources and electric cars, you can consider it. From a utility point of view, the efficiency and visibility of operation are improved, and you can quickly respond to the situation. The efficiency of the site is also improved, and corporate integration is also possible. This leads to the following. All systems must be mobilized by sharing other systems and data such as charging, customer service, SCADA, GIS. In other words, different groups must prevent each other from using different data sets. Data personal information protection and governance are things that must always be considered. Fortunately, there is hardly any customer data that is transmitted between the meter and the back-office. Since it is a very professional data, no one can publish the content even if they cross-check the data during the transmission. Also, all supply companies are currently using 256-bit AMOA, which is a very high level of AMOA for the data being transmitted. Therefore, it is very safe. But of course, all of these measures must be taken. It is because customer trust is needed. Customers should be relieved and be able to use it. AMI is an infrastructure. Not only does it allow you to communicate with the field device in the measuring machine, but also provides security throughout the system. It is the basis for future development and modernization of power lines. This allows both customers and power companies to use more data. It also provides a platform for power companies to quickly improve their power lines. This is not simply a program to replace the meter. It is not simply replacing the meter and building the infrastructure. It is to improve the way of work, increase efficiency from the perspective of a power company, solve the problem faster, and respond to customer questions more quickly. Therefore, it is a very large project other than simply replacing the meter. Do you have any questions about AMI? As you know, there is a part that I briefly explained, so you may already know the content, but before we move on to opt-out, I would like to summarize the basic content. I'll give you one question. How much is the ratio of using AMI in the United States?

Are we falling behind? As far as I know, yes. We were one of the 12 cities that did not use AMI. So I

I don't have the statistics myself, but I think your numbers will be quite close. I'm sorry. Yes, I remember that the ratio mentioned by Joe Hey, Gunner, was 12%.

Currently, we are among 12% of the country that does not use AMI. And I just finished a class and announced it to several local governments, but only we did not use AMI.

Over the years, AMI has evolved from manual AMI to AMR, and now AMI is the next step. As I said, AMI has been used for a long time. In fact, the second-generation AMI device has been released and provides more improved features. It not only tracks all the information of the electrical amperage such as voltage, voltage sign, etc., but also measures water temperature and water pressure. Not only that, but it also includes data for local customers. Therefore, much more data will be collected than the reference search data. Yes, I see. I could be here all day. Now, let me tell you about the Opt-out program. As I mentioned earlier, this program will be included in the project. This is to provide an opportunity for customers to opt-out in the AMI project when they have questions or concerns. Here, Opt-out means opt-out in a wireless communication meter. Yes, a meter without wireless function will be installed. To briefly explain the background, there is basically a wireless card in the electric meter. It may be RF or cellular, and it may be installed behind the front panel of the electric meter. The water meter is a little more complicated. In fact, there is a meter that measures the amount of water and a record of the amount of use. As you can see today. The meter has a wireless communication module connected. Generally, this line is connected through the water meter cap or the well cap. And this line acts as a network communication. Therefore, a non-communication meter means that there is no wireless communication module on the electric meter and no wireless communication module on the water meter. This is for customers who do not want wireless communication functions or are uncomfortable for various reasons. There may be various reasons, but we want to provide a systematic program that can manage them. The program must include specific standards and procedures, and a clear basis for applying them must be provided. There are qualifications and measurement models in the policy document. And as I said, unlike a regular AMI meter, it is a meter without communication function. What is the registration procedure like? A few administrative tasks are required to support this program. What is the manual inspection procedure like? What if you use an AMI meter without wireless function? Should we conduct regular check-ups every month? What will the process be like? Approach authority is one of the key elements. In many cases, the checker is installed in a location where it is difficult to easily or safely access the meter, so the AMI meter is installed. Therefore, if you need to check manually, you need to be able to access the meter. This leads to one-off fees. I will explain this in detail in another slide. There are various things such as one-off fees and regular fees for program support. There are some things to consider when discussing the opt-out program. First of all, let's look at what kind of opinion the regional community members have about AMI and wireless frequencies, and what the opinions are. There are also nearby utility companies that have already introduced AMI or overlapping utility companies. Therefore, the experience and knowledge of these companies can help the local community. Regulations and guidelines must also be considered. And another important factor is the internal process and cost. You need to consider how to inspect the meter, how to install the new meter, and how to manage the opt-out program. All these factors are considered in general to design the program. There are also design principles and living standards. Let's take a look at what the actual requirements are for customers to participate in the program. As I mentioned a few times, safe access is important. You need to be able to access the meter. We want to introduce a cost-based payment system. Our goal is to recover the cost of managing and operating the program. We're not trying to leave a profit. Unlike customers using the AMI system, the goal is for customers who want to participate in selective participation programs to burden the program cost. There are pros and cons to any side. Customers using selective participation programs are not able to receive benefits such as data confirmation and usage control that ordinary AMI customers enjoy. However, customers need to understand this, which is why it costs a little more. As I mentioned earlier, we will use one approval calculator in the city and decide on a standard credit credit calculator. I will tell you about the opt-out. I went a little ahead. I will explain about the AMI function suggestion. What functions can customers who participate in opt-out see? It is known that the city has recently built a customer portal. You can check the current situation through a cable company or other communication company account, and you can check whether it can be paid or not. For example, you can pay your bills through the recently installed meter. We will use the same system to check your usage, monthly usage, and even daily usage using electricity and water customers. AMI customers can use this feature. Opt-out customers cannot check the relevant data. The electricity and water payment processing service will be provided by account according to opt-out requirements. And finally, the final policy document and fee must go through a few verification procedures before confirming the final limit to be announced today. As I mentioned earlier, the one-time fee includes the cost of installing a debt credit calculator. This includes human resources, transportation costs, including operating-related indirect costs. There is also a cost of 105 pieces for account settings and monitoring for each account. There is also a monthly fee and inspection fee, and there is also a cost for the personnel and equipment to be dispatched to the site. And there is also an indirect cost for collecting data and processing it for the purpose of collection. Lastly, there is a one-off fixed cost to create a CIS system, that is, a hearing system, according to these selective rejection programs. So we have to go there and go through that process and see if they can handle it well. And how do you enter the inspection value for hearing? And there is also a continuous cost to inform customers when there are problems or issues in program management. Therefore, there are various costs to consider. And once again, the most important thing is that service rejection fee is to recover program service costs. It is not a fine for service rejection, but a pure cost recovery process. What we have prepared so far is the same as the following. We have a so-called standard rejection method. For example, if someone says, I don't want an AMI meter, the same procedure will be carried out. Yes, the one-time cost will be measured between $125 and $175. Again, this number still needs to be verified. We will check the actual cost and calculate the exact amount by combining various numbers, but this range is the expected amount of one-time cost. And the monthly use rate is between $15 and $30. To be honest, it's almost close to the monthly check-in fee of $30 per month. When considering the various additional costs mentioned above. For your information, self-check-in has a selection release option. In almost the same way, we will install a meter that has no communication function for customers. However, instead of sending someone to check every month, the customer will submit the check value every month. The customer will connect to the portal and be able to enter the data electronically. Then there is no concern that the check value will fall. All processes are electronically processed from the customer to the service system. Of course, you have to send a checkbook regularly, but the exact period of 6 months, 1 year, etc. has not been decided yet, but you have to send a checkbook at least regularly to check the current check value. Because you can't know the exact check value in the office. Even if you manipulate the check value a little bit, you have to be able to correct that part. One of the items in the box below should be selected before the customer installs the AMI meter. We want to know the information in advance, so that we can go to the site and prepare a special preparation to install the appropriate meter. The city will install a meter with no communication function, that is, a meter with the same size throughout the district. The fee is determined by the cost recovery standard, and I have already mentioned this. The final fee will be confirmed before the project is launched. Lastly, the one-time fee is not referred to the customer until the project is completed. It is not appropriate for some customers to pay early and for other customers to pay later. Therefore, I think it is fair to refer to the relevant fee only after the project is completed and all installation work is finished. Once again, it is applied to one-time fees and continuous fees. And as I mentioned earlier, the fee is applied to a service location, that is, a residential area, not a water and electricity fee. Therefore, if you refuse the service, it will be excluded from both service modes. 궁금한 점이 있으시면 말씀해 주십시오. 지난 몇 슬라이드에서 많은 내용을 다루고 설명도 많이 했는데. 질문 있으신 분 계신가요? 네. 음, 죄송합니다. 음, 아날로그 계량기와 디지털 계량기의 차이점을 좀 더 자세히 설명해 주시겠어요? The analog meter is a rotating dial. It's been used for a very long time. Someone said he used an in-ear meter for 30 years. It's been used for a long time. It's mechanical, so as time goes by, the measurement value is not accurate. That's the biggest difference. The digital meter has a circuit built in, so it works electronically, so it's much more accurate than an analog meter. Yes. I'll tell you one more thing and explain it right away. Yes. Yes, so the digital meter is a different method from the mechanical meter. That's right. But... The difference is that you can install a wireless transmitter or not. This is the biggest difference. That's right. Yes. When we order a meter from a manufacturing company, we want a meter without a wireless transmitter installed. Then you will have a meter without a wireless transmitter and a meter with a wireless transmitter. Therefore, those who have chosen not to use a wireless transmitter will be provided with a meter without a wireless transmitter, and those who do not will be provided with a general AMI meter.

Can I ask you a question about the analog calculator? This question has come up a lot. And I know that you are interested in whether the word analog should be included in the rejection of the use of analog calculators. You probably know this part better than anyone else, but you can hardly get a dial type 9 calculator anymore. Yes, we have replaced the digital meter that he mentioned with a meter with a communication function, and we have been doing so for 10 years. All regulators are asking for a meter replacement program to be operated, but as I mentioned earlier, the meter slows down as time goes by. We It is also called a cash register. It is important to ensure the accuracy of the meter, but it is to pay a fair fee for the power consumption used by all customers. If there is a section where the meter is not replaced and the speed is slow and cannot be measured properly, customers using a replaced meter will pay the actual fee for the power consumption used. In other words, replacing the meter is a very important reason from a business point of view. And the dial meter, which people generally think is analog, is currently not widely distributed, or it is almost not distributed. And it's what I mentioned when I talked about this problem before, but I wanted to emphasize it again. Yes, that's right.

One more thing to add is that the analog meter is less accurate when the flow rate is low. And one of the regulations we have is to reduce the amount of water unused in the water supply system. Therefore, it should be reduced as much as possible. A very slow and small number may not be detected in an analog calculator, but a digital calculator detects even this amount and helps to meet the regulatory requirements. Therefore, digital calculators have many advantages. And as Lisa pointed out, we all have to make sure that everyone is fair. To treat everyone equally, installing the same meter for everyone regardless of communication requirements is the way we run opt-out programs. If we do that, the problem will be solved. But once again, as you said, I'm sorry.

Um, what we're trying to do is not just installing a meter that can be communicated by just turning on the switch. As I mentioned earlier, parts that are not included in the electrical meter will be installed, and wireless reading function, that is, the entire equipment will not be installed in the water meter. I know that there is an argument that if you turn on the switch, you can comply with the AMI standard. However, it is impossible without the necessary equipment. If you are concerned about that part, I would like to clarify it again. Yes. Thank you. I'll give you a few more questions. Please wait a moment.

Oh, I'm sorry. Next questioner. And lastly, questioner. I'm sorry. I'm trying to decide the order. Regarding the operation method of the meter, I will ask the person who chooses a meter without wireless function to see if data is generated and stored. Is the data still stored in the meter? Yes, that's right. However, depending on which type of meter is used as a standard, there will be a difference. A meter without communication function simply shows the measurement value like an analog meter. Other accelerators can connect devices to extract data, but in general, voltage change or other data cannot be checked in such accelerators.

And just like today, if we send people to inspect the accelerators, they only check the measurement at the site. We don't bring the data stored in the calculator. To be honest, we don't have the equipment to do that. Yes. Is the data confidential?

It's the data of the city, though. Yes. What I'm saying is that from your point of view, it's an exclusive right. Yes. All right. Do you have any other questions? It's not your turn. Thank you. Then let's assume that there is no transmitter among the measuring machines. And if the house is sold and the new owner wants the measuring machine, I have to pay everyone and go out and install the transmitter again, right? So.

One of the things to consider in the final condition is that when the ownership rights are changed, especially in the case of public facilities, it will be converted into an AMI system when the ownership rights are changed. Yes, then at the city, that is, at the time of the public facility, we have to replace the appropriate meter. Yes, at the public facility.

Yes, that's right.

At that point, I'll start enjoying this point by using an AMI meter. And to answer the second question I heard, you're not going to go back to the meter and install a wireless device, are you? You can just replace it with another meter with that function activated. To be honest, the cost of sending the meter back to the store and installing a new meter is more expensive than the price of the meter. Yes, I understand. Thank you. Yes, go ahead. Uh, when this starts, Do you have a one-time installation fee for people who want AMI? As far as I know, there is no such fee, and there are usually no cases like that, and I have never seen such a fee in other places. No, that's included in the entire program fee. All right. Then I assume that I'm a lazy neighbor and I don't need an AMI. I just need to install an AMI device. With that stupid wireless function. Why do you want me to pay? It's because of the cost of installation.

I'll tell you again, it's my second visit. This is a problem that distinguishes the need for reworking and the special cases of installation of most systems. If anyone knows if this statistics is accurate, please let us know. However, most of the systems have more than 90% participation. So, the person in charge may be different, and even another group may be in charge. We are very specific in our responsibilities and tasks, so it is not necessary for the same group to perform the work. Yes, I understand.

Yes, I understand. My customer calls this repetition. I just install this and that. I know you don't want AMI. I understand. There are a few simple questions. Yes. And another question. If. 6 months, 1 year, or as per the cycle I'll assume you're doing a regular checkup. If there are people who read the measurement machine less than they actually do, will the penalty be increased? Yes, I know. It's on the right slide. I guess I have a good example. It goes naturally to the next slide. I guess I read it in advance. Yes, please continue. I'll stop now. I had to show you the slide before I got the question, but I'll tell you about the standard of qualification. The standard of general participation should of course be that there is no delayed payment. Well, there have never been any problems related to measurement approach. It's a problem that employees may have experienced on site. There has been no service interruption for the past 48 months. In other words, there have never been any problems that employees went out on site and caused a service interruption. Also, there has never been any friction or unrecognizable incidents with city employees. Well, one of the most important things we considered in our research is employee safety. Because we have experienced several accidents in the past, I wanted to ensure that safety was a key qualification standard. Internet access is essential for self-inspection. It is because you have to report the number of inscriptions electronically. It is to prevent someone from entering it directly. The number of inscriptions must be reported accurately and must be reported according to the schedule set by the city. So, we have to decide how to do the schedule that customers report on the phone. Of course, that schedule must also be in line with our reference period. So we have to set that part. If you fail to meet these requirements, you will be excluded from the program and will not be able to re-register. In other words, the management cost that I just mentioned occurs. Someone has to continue to manage this part. For example, if James violates the third time, someone has to send a warning signal, and then the person in charge has to go to the site and install an AMI meter. Yes, that's right. Because AMI provides a lot of benefits to both power companies and customers. So we want to support as many people as possible, including as many people who participate in the AMI program and those who refuse to participate. Yes, do you have any questions about this? Yes, I don't think so. All right. Here are various programs and comparison costs. At the bottom, there is a Missouri-based law, and you can see what standards are set here. I think it was around last year. This content is not applied to Independence, but in other areas, it varies from $40 to $69 per month. I don't know how that number came out. And there's a $982 one. But most other places are about $125. Cities in Michigan are worth $100, but most are between $125 and $15. In the case of Nebraska, one-time fees are $220 and monthly usage is $50. You can check it here as well. The Missouri Public Service Commission has set a limit of $15 for this fee. Here you can find a business that the investor owns. Yes. All right. The next step is the last slide. I promise you. You have to go through the cost verification before adopting a policy. That way, you can check again to see if this fee is correct. You also need to review the law and policy. Everything must be checked from a legal point of view. The technical decision will be evaluated and selected by the supply company through the AMI process to standardize the measuring machine and wireless technology. The operation design examines what our business process is from a field operation point of view and a back-office point of view. And let me ask you again about the selection exception fee grade. What kind of fee system do you need? What kind of fee structure should be set to support the selection exception program? Last question. I'm talking about electricity and water. What if someone asks you to check the water meter without electricity? Of course, there are cases like that. That's another decision. If you look at the situation so far, if you reject one, you reject both. Because the reason for rejecting one is usually because of the wireless frequency RF problem. Yes, as you know, you can't completely eliminate the electricity installed at home. The other one is installed at home. We haven't discussed that part in detail yet, but the common opinion of the employees is that there is no plan to give them the right to choose. Giving them the right to choose is going to be a lot of trouble in reality. Yes, that's right. Oh, it's you. Yes, I see. Yes. As you know, RF, wireless frequency, is a concern. I have experienced RF problems in various projects and concerns from various individuals. We want to tell you that the RF problem is not such a serious problem to what extent it is worrisome through communication with customers. As I said earlier, almost everyone has a cell phone these days, and cell phones emit more than 100 times more power than this meter. This meter stops working once every 4 to 6 hours for less than a second. That's enough time to transfer data. After the data is transferred, it returns to combat mode for another 4 to 6 hours. Does this meter have a battery? Yes, the wireless module has a battery. It's guaranteed for at least 20 years. Yes, how long is my next question going to be? Yes, but I don't think you need to ask me again because I think you've read everything else. I was about to ask that question, too. And of course, the electric meter can provide sufficient power. Yes, you plug it in and use it. I understand that part. Yes, do you have any other questions? Thank you for listening to the presentation. It was very useful information. I'm sorry it's been a long time, but if you have any other questions, please ask us anytime. I'm happy to work with you. Lastly, I'll give you a simple question. Steve, you have to do it before the question. It already provides automatic detection. So it's installed in most households. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I think it would be easier to tell you where you didn't install it. Independent power companies. I think it's about 11 percent. 11 percent. Yes. I don't know exactly how much that is. Now that's over, let's move on to the implementation. Let's take a look at the best advertisement for the demonstration that Steve requested. Let me explain briefly. We're still working on it.

Thank you for your participation. Mr. Mayor, you are a mayor and a congressman, right? Yes, that's right. Um, after our announcement, I think it's a good idea to make the best regulations and vote to encourage the congress to think that it is going in the right direction. Of course, as you know, Mr. Mayor, you received an application this morning, so you don't have time to read it yet, but I think this is something we should do, and I hope Mr. Mayor will suggest it.

If you look at the proposals presented here, in particular, if you look at the content related to the selection of sub-districts, it seems more appropriate to include the proposal of the regional social development city development group UDO type rather than the structure set by the city council. At this point, all the content discussed is screening. It is related to security, fire and battery safety, but all of this is part of the UDO of the integrated development group. For those of you who don't know what UDO is, let me explain. Yes, I've done quite a lot of UDO related work, so I know it well. All of this is related to UDO. UDO. Since it is related to the new software, this opinion will be delivered so that it can be reflected in the UDO review process.

해당 권고안들은 이미 시의회에 제출되었고, 수정안에 대한 논의가 진행되었으며, 현재 10월 5일 회의로 연기되었습니다. 네, 맞습니다. 따라서 이러한 의견들은 검토를 위한 참고자료로 전달된 것이라고 생각해도 될까요? 시의회는 해당 수정안에 대해 표결할 것입니다. 수정안들이 제출되었고, 채택되어야 합니다. Yes, that's right. Additional amendments are also under discussion. I think it's about three. Yes. It's still going on. All right. Thank you.

Oh, you asked me to submit an AMI opt-out advertisement to the board of directors.

It's you, right? It's you. Oh, it's you. I thought it was him. It was you. Hello. Have you ever met him? Oh, that's fine. If you go to the financial part, you will make another mistake.

How do you finish the time wrong? Are you ready?

Basically, Mr. King told me a lot about what was in the revision I submitted, and thank you for the presentation. In my revision, I used the word analog equipment, but I think it's right to change it to non-communication equipment. In the content I submitted. Well, the rest of the content seems to have been explained very simply by King. Well, basically, a new house construction. So if you think about someone building a house, If someone wants a device that doesn't have a communication function to buy or build a house, I think they have the right to request it before the start of construction. 제 생각이 맞나요? 누군가의 질문에 답해 주실 수 있을까요? 현재로서는 그런 방식으로 검토하고 있지는 않습니다. 기존 고객을 위한 것이 없습니다. 따라서 신규 고객은 그런 옵션이 없습니다. 시행 전에는 가능했습니다. 그럼 집을 짓는 사람들은 어떻게 되나요? AMI를 받게 되겠죠. 네, 알겠습니다. 원하지 않으면 거부할 수 있나요? No, of course it's impossible before the implementation, but it's impossible after the implementation. In other words, if we don't move forward, we'll just have to step back for the next 20 years. Even if people don't want to move or install AMI after building a house, there was no AMI where they used to live. But if you move to another house or move to a city, there is no choice to install AMI. AMI is only applied to existing customers.

Is it protecting existing customers?

That's right. That's the right way to put it. Yes, it's protecting existing customers. Rejection fee is reasonable. I think the content of the presentation is reasonable. Another thing I want to tell you is that there are people who need medical exemption like those with heart disease. Among those I know, there is a person who has a heart attack because the smart meter works, and if the smart meter works, there is a serious health problem. Yes, I will promote the recommendation of a medical expert with a license to remove the exemption fee for people with medical exemptions. We support such exemptions, but the cost is the same as before. So I don't agree with that opinion. Of course, how to proceed is an advisable matter, but I think it's appropriate to be exempted if the doctor does not recommend it, but we still have to measure blood sugar and burden the cost of installing other kinds of measuring devices. So at first I didn't include that part. Yes, I understand. and nothing related to it has been developed yet. All of these opinions are good opinions that they should consider. Yes, and to tell you this and that, the only part that I think is a problem is As you know, I think parents have the right to protect their children's health. In my opinion, I think family leaders have the right to guarantee the health and safety of their family members. And I think that's very important. So I'm going to keep trying in that direction. I will continue to review other methods. And in relation to new housing construction, if someone wants to move from another region to Independence, I will not have a chance to enjoy what I enjoy. How nice would it be if I could register for the selection program and enjoy such benefits? But if someone moves other people or families to Independence, get a good job and become a member of our regional society and contribute to regional economic development, but if those people can't enjoy it, I don't think that's fair. So what I'm telling you is that I'm in a position to oppose all of this. Yes, that's right. Anyway, that's all I have to say. Yes, I know. One more thing. In the email you sent, you mentioned the SB4 bill and the mentioned provisions in it. Yes. It is related to the Missouri Public Business Commission, the Missouri Public Utilities Commission, and this committee plays the same role as an organization that invests in public business. Yes. And the local housing organization is easy for me to say. No, I can't actually say that. Local housing organizations are not subject to this bill. Yes, I understand that there is a difference. So I suggested that local housing organizations follow the guidelines here. Yes, that's what I'm suggesting. I understand. Yes. All right. 그럼 이걸 어떻게 처리하시겠습니까 그냥 그들에게 전달해서 반영하도록 하시겠습니까 어떻게 진행하시겠습니까 아니면 그냥 기록으로 남기시겠습니까 음 저는 2번과 4번 항목을 권고사항으로 제출하고 싶습니다 2번 과 What about the fourth item? I think it would be better to provide information rather than working on the whole process. It would be better to provide information than I do myself. Yes, Christine has the information, so you can share it. Yes, Consultant, Lisa, Rich, Mike, and Jacob. If you want, to me. Yes, good.

This is what I think.

Yes, it's perfect. Good. Please tell Christine. Thank you. Yes. Now we will move on to the establishment of the Public Business Department.

Yes. This content should have been delivered with the case update, but I will say it again, but this is a very comprehensive request. As we discussed at the meeting last month, this is the direction we should go. To briefly explain the background, the Public Business Department was established as the IPL directorate was established in 2018. At that time, the relevant request was cancelled while maintaining efficiency until 2020. Therefore, this request is to reinstall the Public Business Department once again. The ultimate goal is to reduce operation and increase efficiency and improve communication between three institutions. Being in the same building is a big help, but the same work as planning and review tends to proceed much better when everyone communicates smoothly like a family. Therefore, we want to take every opportunity possible in the public business field.

I've been in charge of the governance part while reviewing the demonstration site.

Yes, actually.

This is what we've been proposing from the beginning. When it first came out, the sentence was different from now, but it was the direction we discussed and worked on. So I fully support this bill. And are you looking forward to the announcement at that time?

Yes, I would appreciate it if you vote in favor or against the board. This bill will be submitted for the 1st hearing of the House of Representatives at the 21st meeting on Monday, next week. Therefore, we would like to move forward regardless of whether there is a public business committee, POAB, or a proposal. Anyway, the vote is a proposal. I would appreciate it if you vote. Do you have any questions or opinions about the draft of the Public Business Department?

I think this is a reintegration of the three institutions. If not, would you like to submit a consent form? I won't tell you which way to go. It could be a consent or a rejection. It's up to you. I suggest consent. Yes, the consent has come in. I will re-apply. There are some people who have re-applied. Is there anyone who wants to discuss this consent? Yes, voting means approving and approving of this case.

Yes, Christine, please check your attendance. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. We received information that the City Development Registration for the Data Center will be held here at 6 p.m. on Wednesday, 23rd. Yes, and that's a new place, so if anyone wants to participate in the meeting, please come anytime. You can ask additional questions or give your opinion. Yes, good. Thank you. Now, it's time for the report.

The meeting is quite long. It's been a long time since I've had a meeting like this. Time. You're overdoing it, right? Yes, about an hour. Yes. That's it. Look at the meeting log I've recorded so far. Now, I'll hand it over to Jacob first. Don't you want to talk to my twin sister Amy? No, I've only seen Amy in the previous meeting. I'll tell you now. Yes, and... To let everyone know, as I said last month, June 31 is the end of the fiscal year.

Therefore, this July's fiscal year is going to be the fiscal year of the first month of the new year. Well, let's start with IPL and briefly explain some of the key figures. The IPL correction budget for 2027 is $250 million. Until July, the actual expenditure was $18 million, which decreased by about 7.46% compared to the budget. However, if you look at the total operating cost, the fixed budget is $211 million, and the actual expenditure is $15 million, but the operating cost is 7.2%. In other words, the total operating profit has hurt the total operating cost. And moving on to the next page, The capital project budget was $41,000,000. The fixed amount is $79,000,000. In July, we used $33,000. Therefore, there is still a capital project budget of $79,000,000. The next list contains these capital project lists. Well, I think the project size is increasing. It's getting bigger and bigger. Next time, I'll make the text bigger.

네. 프레젠테이션은 그렇지만 글꼴이 더 크면 좋겠네요. IPL 관련 질문 있으신가요?

No. Okay. Then let's move on to the capital. The total operating income is $32 million, which is less than the annual budget. I used $3 million of it. The actual monthly budget ratio is 9.34%. There was a lot of loan income. The total operating cost is $31 million, which is less than the budget. The cost is $4 million, which is 13.56% compared to the budget. Some of it is the cost of goods, but it's an increasing trend this year. The capital project related to the capital is 36 million dollars a year. Of them, I used 1.7 million dollars in July. There are 34 million dollars left a year. The capital project list related to the capital is as follows. Do you have any questions about the capital department? No, not yet. And finally, the low-level operating profit is $4,1 million in annual revised budget. In July, $3.7 million was spent, which recorded an increase of 8.94% from the budget, which is a very good result. The revised operating cost is $33 million, and $2.9 million was spent, which recorded an increase of 8.71% from the budget. This is a slightly high number. The supply cost of the high-level was slightly increased, which is similar to the trend of increasing the cost of the high-level in the beginning of the year. There is a capital business list on the next page. The capital business correction budget is $24 million. $74,000 was spent in July, so $24 million is a little over. We will also provide you with a capital business list. Do you have any questions? Thank you.

Now let's move on to the custom service. Yes, I understand. Oh, yes. I thought I was showing you the IPL statistics chart, but it's a little lower. Well, there's nothing particularly important in terms of time. I'll give the two of you some time. Then let's wrap it up at the right time. Now, I gave you a question, especially about the damage to the Shure farm. That was the next order. Now, shall we start? As you all know, about two weeks ago, there was a storm. About 5,000 people, or 5,300 customers, were damaged by the storm. From Sunday afternoon to Monday morning, we resumed the storm damage recovery and requested support from other regions. We sent support teams from Odessa, Harrisonville, and Marshall, and two additional support teams from Black & Beach, BLA-CKM%, and VEA-TCH also joined. We restored power to most customers by Monday afternoon. However, there were quite a few single or double-deck houses that fell down in the back yard and the power supply was cut off. So we've been working 24 hours a day to re-supply the power to the customers. On Wednesday morning, we withdrew the support team, but at that time, the damage was not reduced to the level that we could handle. We removed the trees at 10 a.m. on Wednesday night and finished the work of restoring the power supply of the single-deck house. The storm damage recovery has been completed for all customers until Thursday morning. The Black & Beach team stayed here for a few days and helped with more difficult work, such as removing trees in the backyard. So, thanks to all the people who participated in the support, it was really helpful. Yes, such short-term or long-term work feels like a long-term effort. Yes, that's right. The work that takes a long time is the problem. Sir, sometimes I don't understand. Yes, I see. Can I add one more thing? There's something I want to do clearly. I want to give compliments to people who deserve compliments. You said Harrison Billy, right? Or you said Higgins Billy? Harrison Billy. It was Higgins Billy. Higgins Billy. Is that right? Yes, I think you said Higginsville. Phil, I said it wrong. It was Higginsville, not Harrisonville. I want to say thank you to my neighbors. Yes, you did a great job and thank you. And there were 43 trees on the roadside.

Yes, how many were there? 43, 43. It was 43, but later it increased to more than 60 for a week. I'm not sure if it's just big trees that fell down because of the storm. This is only for the branches that fell on the roadside. So imagine how much it would be if it fell on the back of the road and disturbed the whole line. Yes.

So last Saturday, I opened the storage box with a tree without a head, and there were more cars than usual. People took advantage of this opportunity. It was really good that people responded so quickly. Yes.

Okay. Thank you. Amy, how are you? You must have been lonely there. We don't think we'll ever be able to go. Yes, I know. But we're here. It's 4.13 p.m. and we're ready to go. As Jacob mentioned, you're only looking at the first-month data of each graph this year. Therefore, we are comparing the data in early 2025, 2026, and 2027. If you look at the graph, July data is almost the same as last year. There is nothing particularly abnormal. If you look at the accumulated kilowatt-hours and the annual revenue, you can only see one small point at the bottom, and you can check the annual growth trend through this. If you look at the temperature and humidity page, you can see that the average temperature and humidity in July of 2025 and July of 2026 are very similar. Compared to last year, there is not much change. And the customer performance was updated at the end of 2026. This figure is based on June 30. And at the end of this fiscal year, we will update it again. Yes.

Do you have any questions about the statistics chart? I really like the graph data. If you look at the graph, you can figure it out quickly. Jacob, I'm sorry, but you don't have to take out the calculator. Yes, thank you. Yes. Go back to the case and it's page 2.

Vice-Chairman I don't have much to update, but if you have any specific questions, I will answer or look for answers. To put it simply, concrete masonry work is still going on. The architecture for the second building has also been accepted.

However, it is known that the Bly Road Connection Section Construction has not yet begun.

That part seems to be under construction for the sixth month already. Well, I don't know. It really feels like a soul.

I don't know when the park will be completed.

Actually, it was scheduled to be completed within this month. I have to use the subsidy until the end of this month. Recently, it didn't rain much, but in the early days of construction, it rained a lot. So the construction was delayed because of the weather. We've been waiting for the day the park opens, but I can't tell you the exact date. I'm sorry.

Do you have any questions? Yes, do you have any other questions? No.

Then let's move on to the chairman's speech.

There are a few things I want to tell you. From September 27th to October 4th, there is a Love Where You Live Independence Cleanup event. As you know, there is a resource volunteer application form on the web page, so please participate in the regional social cleaning volunteer. It's a really good thing. I've never seen such a large-scale event, but it's nice to see it. And another one is the Civil Academy. It starts at 6 p.m. on Tuesday, September 29, and ends on November 16, and you can get various information about the market. If you are interested in both useful projects, visit the website and apply. Oh, and Mr. MacNucky, I'll give you a quick question. Renew Missouri A group called Renew Misery is working with the Senate to provide the best possible regulation. Pizza and power supply will be held from 5.30 p.m. to 7.30 p.m. on September 30. Yes. Please let us know about the story about Bess and the free pizza delivery event at the North Library on September 30, 24. Please let us know about the story about Bess and the free pizza delivery event at the North Library on September 30, 24. Yes, please. All right. Any other questions? Yes, the next meeting will be held here at 2.30 p.m. on October 15th. I would like to request foreign consent. Yes, I agree. Is there anyone who wants to re-vote? I request. Don't fight. You can vote next time. Do I have to vote now? Yes, I voted. Thank you. I don't think I need to vote. Yes. Yes. I haven't had a meeting like this in a long time. It was useful information.