City Council - Regular Meeting

Good evening and welcome to the Monday, July 20th, 2026 City Council meeting. Our invocation will be provided by Dan O'Neill. Please stand for the invocation and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Good evening, Mayor and City Council and citizens. Please pray with me. May we enter this meeting with open minds and willing hearts. guide our discussions so that it serves the good of all who call the city home. Grant us wisdom to see beyond personal interest, patience to hear each voice, and courage to choose what is just and fair. Help us remember that our work today shapes the lives of neighbors, families, and future generations. May our decisions build trust, and strengthen our community and reflect the best of who we are together. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Madam City Clerk, please call the roll.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Here. Council Member Stewart? Here. Council Member Wiley? Here. Council Member Vought? Here. Mayor King?

Here.

All right.

We have no proclamations tonight, so we're going to go right into citizens' requests. And our speaker tonight is Becky Haik. And I'm going to say, while she's coming up here, I just want to make a statement real quick and just remind everybody to please state your name and city of residence. Please keep on your one topic that you have signed up to speak on. All remarks must be addressed to the council as a body and no personal remarks about individuals, whether positive or negative, are permitted. In addition, everyone present must maintain decorum and comply with directives from the presiding officer. If any issue arises, then you will be given a verbal warning, but if the issue persists, then you will be required to leave the meeting. So, all right, you have five minutes.

Okay. Becky Hague, Independence, Missouri. Mayor and City Council, I'm here tonight to speak on the Truman Connect Phase 2 change.

I'm sorry, Becky, could you please be closer to the microphone? Thank you.

Okay. How's this? Okay. A city, just like a family, we all have to make plans for the future, but we do not make plans that would endanger our family in the presence, especially when trying to look out 20 or 30 years out. You have to know that changes will be needed. When Truman Connect first came about, no one thought that Truman Sports Complex would not be there. But things change, just like Phase II has changed in this project. I looked over all the slides, watched the study session, and I have some questions. My first, my concerns are about the roundabout have been answered, have not been answered. I asked. I have asked a fireman, I've asked the police officer, and I've asked ambulance people, and every one of them had the same response. It will slow down our response time. None of them were aware of the plan, and they all had concerns. With Sterling being one of the main north-south streets through Independence, it should give us all concern. Second, I have questions regarding the eight-foot-wide sidewalks on Winter Road to 40 Highway. I agree that a lot of these sidewalks are in bad shape. In sections, there are no sidewalks at all. Some of the sidewalks on Sterling are six feet wide. Some are three feet wide. But has there been any consideration for some of the homes along Sterling? There are homes that do not have room to park a car now. Their one car in their driveway hangs over this current sidewalk. Some parking is sideways in their yards. Most of these are affordable homes and rentals. People are not going to want to live in them if they cannot park a car, much less if more than one person is living there. Are they going to be vacant properties? Excuse me. Also, in the presentation last week, it states that the homes affected are going to be from 20 to 178. But the new plan shows eight-foot sidewalks from Winter Road to 40 Highway. And that's how, and if that is true by the numbers they gave, that will be affecting 400 homes. They are all within eight, so I don't know if anybody's looked, the power lights, some of the power poles, the street lights, fire hydrants, They're all within eight feet of the street. Are they going to be in the middle of a sidewalk? Even one of the light, if you're going south on 35th Street, at 35th on Sterling right now, the one next to the old fire station, it sits in the six-foot sidewalk, the traffic light signal. So are we going to be dodging all this on all the sidewalks? Or are they all going to have to be moved? Have you considered retaining walls? Several of them have retaining walls that would be neat to be moved. And a couple of those properties at the edge of that sidewalk now go straight down. How are we going to widen that? So, then last, the roundabout itself. As I stated, it would cost lower response time to anyone north of 32nd Street, and that includes 23rd Street, which we all know about accidents on 23rd and Sterling, and make it I received an accident report from the police department on 27th and Sterling. And there's only been two wrecks there in over a year, last year. And I believe one was a deer strike. That makes it the safest intersection in this plan. According to the traffic reports meeting, the roundabout would only improve travel time one time in the middle of the day.

You have one minute, ma'am.

In the evening hours, it shows a much slower time. For these reasons, I'm asking this council to postpone the vote tonight on the new plan and take some extra time to address these issues. I believe that it was 2020 when this was budgeted for $8.9 million. And with the additional sidewalks and other changes that would need to be addressed and inflation, I have a feeling this project is going to be a lot higher than that. Thank you.

Thank you. This brings us to our consent agenda.

Mr. Mayor. Proceed. I move for approval of the reports and recommendations of the city manager.

I have a motion. Second. And a second. Is there any items that you wish to pull from the consent agenda?

Mr. Mayor. Yes. I would like to pull item one.

Mr. Mayor, I'd like to pull item number... 26758.

Mr. Mayor? Yes. Can you please pull item number four?

Anything else? All right. Madam City Clerk, please call the roll.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vaught? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. Motion passes. sorry five to zero i had a brain fart for a second sorry um okay this i'm gonna uh item number one i'm sorry six zero uh to council member vat

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I would like to postpone this item until August 3rd to allow staff some additional time to evaluate options and phasing and bring back more information. So therefore, I move to postpone item one until August 3rd. Second.

Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on item number one? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman. Yes. Council Member Perkins. Yes. Council Member Stewart.

Yes.

Council Member Wiley. Yes. Council Member Vought. Yes. Mayor King.

Yes. Number one passes six to zero. Okay. Council Member Stewart, item number four.

Motion to approve item number four. Second.

Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on item number four?

Mr. Mayor.

Yes.

Mr. City Manager, can you give us an overview on this and why we're asking, why the city is asking for this?

So, just really high level, we currently have a vendor, Invoice Cloud, that assists in processing credit card and other transactions. transactions related to utility billing other transactions and so as part of the current contract they have the ability to increase those those merchant fees and so rather than just unilaterally increasing those merchant fees they approached us with somewhat of a partnership in trying to address what we thought might be the best avenue going forward on how to respond to these merchant fees that are being charged. And so we took it to Public Utility Advisory Board. We've also taken this to Finance and Audit Committee. And so the recommendation before you all is to pass those merchant fees, those credit card charges on to the end user. And so you can see as part of this, the addendum to the contract spells out the percentage increase in or the percentage that will be charged as it relates to The overall utility bill, it also increases the cap. Currently, for example, right now, if you have a utility bill over $750, you have to approve that in multiple transactions. So this allows for ease of sort of paying utility billing in sort of one payment. And so... This is a contractual obligation. This is just sort of an opportunity to work side by side with our vendor to determine the best avenue in which those costs can be passed on to the end user.

Okay. Thank you. Any other discussion on item number four? Mr. Mayor. Yes.

Mr. City Manager, can you explain if this charge would be passed on to everyone or just those who use debit or credit cards?

It's to those that are using debit. There's actually two in that it's the debit and credit card charge. There's a flat fee and a percentage. And then for those that are using the electronic funds transfer, there's a flat fee. But then obviously, yes, if you came in with check or if you came in with, I don't even know if we do cash anymore, but if you came in with an alternative method payment, then obviously, no, you would not have those charges.

Thank you.

Any further discussion?

Mr. Mayor?

Yes.

So I just want to make clear that this is an optional fee, not a utility rate increase or anything. Okay.

That's correct. This is not an optional fee. These are fees that exist one way or the other. So these either have to be absorbed into the rates, and we would have to consider a rate increase, or we pass these costs on to the end user. And in this structure where you're having a percentage of the actual cost, then every end user pays sort of their fair share.

Thank you.

Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vaught? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. Item number four passes. Six yeses, zero noes. This brings us to... 26-758, Council Member Perkins.

Thank you, Mayor. This is another conversation that we're having as we move forward to the conversation of August 3rd for a general obligation bond possibility for our historic sites. Won't go into the long history of it, but thank you very much for the indulgence of the council and also the community members as we've been working through this. Just a quick matter of note of information. I just sent the council some information about... THE FACILITY AT 223 NORTH MAINE WHICH HOUSES THE 76TH HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. GIVE THAT A READ AND LOVE TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK. WE DISCUSSED IT THIS MORNING THERE MR. CITY MANAGER AS WELL. ONE OF THE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE ORDINANCE BEING WRITTEN, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE WITH THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS IF THE BOND PASSES THAT INDEPENDENCE RESIDENTS DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO VISIT THOSE SITES LISTED FREE ADMISSION. Future thoughts, kick it out for a conversation, but August 3rd, I believe, is when the ordinance is going to be ready to present for first reading?

Yes. Excellent.

I'll make a motion for approval.

Got a motion.

Second.

And I have a second. Any further discussion on 26-758? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman. Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

No.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-758 passes with five yeses and one no.

All right.

This brings us to our regular agenda on public hearings.

A public hearing for the application to rezone the property at 16523 East US 40 Highway from R6 Single Family Residential and C2 General Commercial to C2 General Commercial. New information only.

Thank you, Mayor and members of the Council. My name is Rick Arroyo. I'm the Assistant Community Development Director here at the City. This rezoning was considered by Planning Commission on June 9th of this year. Planning Commission did vote in favor of this rezoning. This is essentially a corrective rezoning for the property at 16523 East US 40 Highway going from an R6 single family and C2 commercial to solely a C2 commercial. The applicant in this situation is wishing to take that property and turn it into a multifunctional culinary arts trade school and rehabilitate the three existing structures that are on that site. I have no new information to provide.

Thank you.

26-062, second reading. An ordinance approving a rezoning from District R6 Single Family Residential and C2 General Commercial to District C2 General Commercial for the property located at 16523 East US 40 Highway, second reading.

Any discussion on 26-062? Seeing none, Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman?

Yes.

Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes, 26-062 passes with six yeses and zero no votes. Mr. Mayor?

Proceed. I'd like to make a motion for item number two and 26063, second reading be postponed until August 3rd.

Second. Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion on item two, which is 26-063? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Abstain. Motion passes with five yeses, zero noes, and one abstention. All right. Item number three.

A public hearing for the special use permit application to operate a rental car business at 3601 South Nolan Road. New information only.

Thank you again. This special use permit was considered by Planning Commission also on that June 9th meeting. Planning Commission did vote in favor of the special use permit. This is to allow the Avis Car Rental Company that operates off of Nolan Road to access a property at 3601 South Nolan Road as overflow storage for their rental vehicles. The area currently is a paved lot behind a strip center with multiple tenants. With that, I have no new information to provide.

Thank you. Any questions?

26-064, an ordinance approving a special use permit to expand the operations of a car rental agency to 3601 South Nolan Road, Independence, Missouri. Second reading.

Any discussion on 26-064? Mr. Mayor. Proceed.

Let me expand this. Do you know if they're going to make any...

security enhancement to the parking lot So the applicant has indicated that they are looking at fencing as well as lighting there is improvements to Landscaping as well on the site. They'll also have to put Parking stalls that is required as well. So yes, they are looking at security updates.

Okay. That's all I have.

Thank you any further discussion Madam City Clerk, please call the vote

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-064 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

A public hearing for the preliminary development plan application for the McBee Acres subdivision. New information only.

Thank you again. This preliminary development plan was considered by Planning Commission on that June 9th meeting. Planning Commission did vote in favor of this preliminary development plan. This is to revise the lot envelopes for the McBee Acres development that is located north of 24 Highway. It's west of Salem Drive and it's IT'S IN A PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT JUST INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 2022, BUT IT WAS APPROVED WITH TWO DISTINCT LOTS. FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTIBILITY, THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO HAVE THIS PLAN UPDATED WITH THOSE LOT ENVELOPES, AND SO THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE. WITH THAT, I HAVE NO NEW INFORMATION TO PROVIDE.

THANK YOU.

26-067, second reading, an ordinance approving a preliminary development plan for the property located north of the US 24 Highway and west of Salem Drive in District R30 slash PUD, high density residential slash planned unit development in Independence, Missouri, second reading.

Any further discussion on 26-067? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman. Yes. Council Member Perkins. Yes. Council Member Stewart. Yes. Council Member Wiley. Yes. Council Member Vaught. Yes. Mayor King.

Yes. 26-067 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem in this case, before we move on past the rezoning ordinances, if we could go back to 26-063, we also need to continue the public hearing that's been posted.

Do we just need to make a motion to postpone the public hearing for that day? To that same day, yes, sir. I'll make the motion to postpone the public hearing to the August 3rd council meeting.

I second it.

Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Abstain. Thank you. Passes with five yeses, zero noes, and one abstention.

Okay. A full public hearing for a retail selling of intoxicating liquor of all kinds in the original package for On the Go located at 9307 East 23rd Street. Full public hearing.

Good evening, Mayor and members of the Council. My name is Tom Skenelman, the Community Development Director. This establishment is located on the south side of 23rd Street at the far west city limits. It's located between Blue Ridge Terrace and Glenwood Avenue. This is a new facility. The applicant constructed it over the last couple years, recently receiving its certificate of occupancy earlier this year. They are seeking a liquor license to sell packaged liquor This is before the City Council because there is residential uses within 300 feet of this property. There are no other active liquor licenses within 1,000 feet of this location. That concludes staff's presentation. I'm available for any questions.

Any questions?

Mr. Mayor.

Proceed.

Has anyone reached out to voice a concern about this?

We have not received any phone calls or emails regarding this application.

Okay. Thank you.

Okay.

Mr. Mayor.

Proceed.

Could you clarify what's within 300 feet? I didn't hear that.

Residential property. So whenever there's residential property within an establishment, it does require City Council approval.

Mr. Mayor, I apologize. Yes. So have those neighbors been informed of this?

Correct. The public notice to all the surrounding property owners within, I believe it's 200 feet, have been notified, and we have not received any phone calls or emails regarding this application. Thank you.

Any other questions? This is a full public hearing, so I will open it up for anybody that wants to speak in favor of or against. Please state your name and your address and what city you live in, please.

Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, council members. My name is Ali. I live in 3813 North Ewing Avenue, Kansas City, Missouri. I'm the operator and owner of On the Go Independence, located on 23rd Street. First, I want to thank you for the time and for considering my application. I want to say that I invested a significant amount of money in this store to build a big building, good looking, safe, clean place for the community. We have security cameras throughout the building, inside, outside, all over the place. We strictly check IDs on all age products restrictions. We are committed to follow the city and the state recommendations and regulations to get this application approved. I just want to say that we've done so many things in this building so we can have a one-stop place for the neighbors and community and it's a big building. Without the full package, liquor license approval, it's going to be very hard for it to survive. A lot of the neighbors and customers are so excited and so happy about this store that we did. I also send an email for the council members to come and visit so I can be transparent and so they can see themselves what we've done inside there. Just want to say with all respect, I would appreciate if I get this liquor license full package approved for the survival of the business.

Thank you. Anybody else that would like to speak in favor of or against? Anybody else that would like to speak in favor of or against? This public hearing is closed.

Council action is requested on the application received from on the go for retail selling of intoxicating liquor of all kinds in the original package that is located at 9307 East 23rd Street.

Any discussion on this? Can I get a motion to approve this?

I move to approve on the go retail selling of intoxicating liquor.

Have a motion? Second. Got a second. Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. This passes with six yeses and zero noes. Second readings. Second readings.

26-010 second reading and ordinance amending section 3.01.001 of the independent city code to expand the definition of a public nuisance animal second reading.

Any discussion on this?

Mr. Mayor?

Proceed.

Thank you. I support this expansion of the nuisance animal ordinance. This revision simply adds animals that are repeatedly found loose on property other than their owner's property without permission. I think it's a common sense update that helps address ongoing issues while promoting responsible pet ownership.

Thank you. Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Councilmember Dorman? Yes. Councilmember Perkins? Yes. Councilmember Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vaught? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. Ordinance 26-010 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

26-059, second reading, an ordinance amending section 18.18.001-010 of the Independence City Code concerning bicycles, motorized bicycles, and motor scooters, second reading.

Any discussion?

Mr. Mayor.

Proceed.

Mr. City Manager, can you give an overview of this and kind of why are we doing this and why I'd be asked to do this?

Yeah, I'm going to call up city staff to better answer those questions. I can do it. I'm going to defer to a city attorney then.

Thank you. This was a sort of a joint effort between IPD and the city prosecutor's office to address some parts of the code that are a little outdated as it relates especially to motor scooters and other kinds of bikes that have become much more popular the last few years. So the point of both this ordinance and the following one is just to make some updates and code corrections that they think will fill some of those gaps, will help to better enforce the existing ordinances as it applies to those types of vehicles.

Okay, thank you. So we've had some accidents recently in the city and elsewhere with some of these motorized bicycles and motor scooters. Is this kind of because of that?

That is part of it, yes. I know they've had a number of accidents and other issues that have prompted the discussion, which then again led to IPD and the city prosecutor's office working to come up with these suggested revisions.

Okay, I'm going to support this. I just want to make the comment. I think we probably need to make sure that we try to get the word out to let them know these changes have been made so that everybody's fully aware. So if we could post something maybe on the Facebook page or however we normally do that. Okay, thank you. That's all I have.

Thank you. Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-059 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

26-060, second reading, an ordinance amending section 18.01.001 of the Independent City Code to change the definitions of electrical, I'm sorry, electric personal mobility devices, motorcycle, and motorized bicycles. Second reading.

Any further discussion? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-060 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

26-065, second reading, an ordinance approving a final plat for the Meadowbrook Estates, second plat located southeast of Eureka Road and Artie Mize Road in Independence, Jackson County, Missouri, second reading.

Any discussion on this? Hearing none, Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman?

Yes.

Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought?

Yes.

Mayor King?

Yes. 26-065 passes with six yeses and zero nos.

26-066, second reading, an ordinance approving a final plat for Jackson Place, first plat located west of Jackson Drive and south of Artie Mize Road in Independence, Jackson County, Missouri, second reading.

Any discussion on this ordinance? Hearing none, Madam State Clerk, call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-066 passes with six yeses and zero noes.

26-068, second reading, an ordinance approving a final plat for McBee Acres located north of U.S. 24 Highway and west of Salem Drive in Independence, Jackson County, Missouri. Second reading.

Any discussion on this ordinance? Madam City Clerk, please call the vote.

Council Member Dorman? Yes. Council Member Perkins? Yes. Council Member Stewart?

Yes.

Council Member Wiley? Yes. Council Member Vought? Yes. Mayor King?

Yes. 26-068 passes with six yeses and zero noes. This brings us to first readings.

26-070, first reading and ordinance repealing and replacing ordinance number 19522 and granting necessary easement authority as part of the Valley View Extension Project, number 512001, first reading. 26-071, first reading and ordinance authorizing the acceptance of funding from the U.S. Department of Justice, U.S. Marshal Service, through the Joint Law Enforcement Operations Task Force, for use by the police department, making the necessary appropriations and authorizing future change orders for additional funding and or time extension.

Thank you. This brings us to council member comments. Council member Dorman.

Okay, I don't have any comments at this time. All right, thank you.

Council member Stewart.

Nothing tonight, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you.

Council member Wiley. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Vaught. Nothing tonight, Mayor. Nothing.

Council Member Perkins. Well, I'll do it then, by golly. So just real quick. Thank you, Mayor, by the way. Under new information only tonight, I know we have some folks here that are here for the. preliminary development plan for the property located at 136 East White Oak Street. We received an email today from the applicant. It'll still be on for the August 3rd consideration. The applicant, Community Service League, has asked to postpone that indefinitely. So it'll still post in our agenda, but that will be the ask that I'll make to the full body at that time to postpone this indefinitely. I thought you were sitting here, so you're more than welcome to come back August 3rd. Love to have you, but don't want you to waste your time either. Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you. Just a couple things. First of all, I think I was robbed of the Ted Lasso winner look-alike contest. I think I nailed it, but somehow I didn't win. I had a great time. I want to thank Jeff and Cindy for all their efforts on Saturdays while the World Cup was going on. There were a lot of things going on. But they did a good job of having that open and providing food and games for the kids. And there were some great soccer matches. I also want to thank the Independence Fire 76ers. I hope I get this right. Independence Fire 76 group who put on the Fire Fest Saturday. That was an awesome event. I enjoyed attending it. And I'm looking forward to the next one as well. So this Wednesday at 6 o'clock over at the Genealogy Center, I will be having my first town hall. There are actually five... things I'm gonna be discussing. One of them is gonna be, we'll have a presentation from the Missouri Works Initiative program. We will also have a presentation from Centerstone on mental wellness. We will also have the GM and the owner from the Independence Center there to talk about the Independence Center. And then we will talk about small businesses where we will have a little discussion on small businesses and what we can do to help improve. And then we'll also talk about areas in the city for city cleanup. So all are welcome to attend and come out and listen to the presentations. And that's all I have. City Manager Anderson, would you like to speak tonight?

In the way of announcements, I know it's been a long time coming, but as of today, we have officially launched the executive search for the City of Independence next police chief. And so... Check it out. Check out our website. Check out our social media platforms. Share the post with anybody that you think might be interested in the position. But as of today, that executive search has been posted on all of the job boards across the nation, and we are really excited about what that search is going to lead to.

With that, this meeting is adjourned. Thanks, everybody, for coming out.

Thank you.