City Council - Regular Meeting

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I'd like to call the meeting of the City Council Public Finance and Authority to order. Madam Clerk, may I have the roll call please?

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Here. Here. Present.

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All present. Thank you.

Madam Clerk, do we have any supplemental communications?

No supplemental communication for the closed session.

All right, public comments. Before we begin public comments, I'd like to announce that pursuant to new state legislation, Senate Bill 707, public comments will be accepted both in person and remotely via Zoom. The city clerk will not read profane, obscene, or otherwise inappropriate Zoom display names or identifiers. Instructions for providing comments on Zoom can be found on the agenda cover page and on the city clerk webpage. The city clerk will provide instructions for participating in public comment. Madam Clerk, do we have any public speakers for closed session?

Yes. The City Council will now receive public comments for closed session. Closed session only. If you are here to provide in-person comments, queue in the designated area along the stairs, use either podium, state your name, and if you would like it reflected in the minutes. If you would like to provide comments for closed session item via Zoom, use the raise your hand feature in Zoom and your name will be called by your Zoom identifier. Once called, be prepared to unmute your microphone and speak. If you're here to speak on Zoom, please raise your hand. We have no speakers.

All right, thank you. Close session announcement included in closed session, conference of labor negotiators, government code section 54957.6, agency designated representatives, Travis Hopkins, city manager. Also in attendance, Marissa Sir, assistant city manager, Mike Vigliotta, city attorney, and Zach Zee, acting chief financial officer, employee organizations, the Huntington Beach Police Officers Association, the Police Management Association, the Huntington Beach Firefighters Association, and Fire Management Association. Municipal Employees Organization, MEO. Commerce with real property negotiators, government code section 54956.8. Property at 17732 Golden West Street, Huntington Beach, California, 92647, APN 111-01069. Agency negotiators, Travis Hopkins, Marissa Serr, Ashley Wysocki, Director of Community Library Services, Chris Cole. Community Library Services Manager, William Krill, Real Estate Project Manager. Negotiating partners, Michael and Christina Bartusik, doing business as Park Bench Cafe. Rory Bevins not present. Under negotiation, price in terms of payment. Conference of the real property negotiators, government code section 54956.8, property 21091, Pacific Coast Highway, Huntington Beach, California, 92648. APN 024-281-16. Agency negotiators, Travis Hopkins, Marissa Sir, Ashley Wysocki, Chris Cole, William Krill. Negotiating parties, Puya Hanari, Pacific Hotel, LLC, doing business as Paseo Hotel and Spa, not present. Under negotiation, price in terms of payment. Council to have a motion and a second to recess the closed session.

Motion to go to closed session.

Second. Second, recess the closed session.

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Bye. Bye.

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Come ride with the winds that bring you gladness And see if you can see A place that's free from all dismayness

Come see how the stars can lead you far away Where wandering thoughts do roam And ships sailing on the sea sail onward And love not left behind

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Come ride with the winds that bring you gladness And see if you can see The place that's free from all dismayness

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If there's clouds in the sky, you can dry your eyes. If there's rain up above, you can give your love every day, every day. When you smile at me, I can see you're giving all the love that we share. And it's all I'm living for every day. Every day. Every day is sunshine. And I'm so glad that you're mine. If the rain and the snow and the ice is cold, deep inside love is new and the sun comes shining through every day. Every day. Every day is sun.

Every day is sun. Shine.

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Good evening, I'd like to reconvene the regular meeting of the City Council Public Finance and Authority. Madam Clerk, may I have the roll call please?

Councilman Gruhl?

Here.

Councilman Kennedy? Here. Mayor Pro Tem Twiney?

Here.

Mayor McKeon?

Here.

Councilman Burns?

Present.

Councilwoman Vandermark? Here. Councilman Williams?

Here.

All present.

All right, tonight's invocation will be given by Chaplain Jericho Rote.

Good evening, Council, members of the community. I invite us to pray. God, we lift up tonight's meeting, the topics discussed, the decisions made. Throughout tonight's meeting, may we be aware of your presence, speaking to us and guiding us. Teach us to live with your compassion. May our words and actions and conversation reflect your love and hope for all people, for all creation. We pray for the thriving of our city and all those that work to make it the place that it is. And I pray these things in Jesus' name. Amen.

Tonight, the Pledge of Allegiance will be led by the infamous Mike Ali of American Legion Post 133. So Mike Alley was drafted in June of 1967 and completed his basic training at Fort Ord, California. Assigned to the infantry, 11 Bravo, he spent time at Fort Lewis in Washington before being deployed to Vietnam. During his service, he was involved in the 1968 Tet Offensive and saw combat. Mike showed exceptional leadership, obtaining the rank of Sergeant E-5 in just 10 months. He served as well as a squad leader and a platoon leader, and he was discharged in 1969. Mike owns the famous Zach's by the Beach, located next to the Huntington Beach Pier. He has been honored with numerous awards in the civilian world. He was a grand marshal in last year's July 4th parade, citizen of the year, and has been given the key to this city, to name a few. Thank you for your service, Mike.

Good afternoon. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic which stands, one nation, under God, individual, liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

Thanks, Mike. Closed session report by city attorney. City attorney, do you have anything to report from closed session?

I do tonight, Mayor. Thank you. The city council unanimously approved the city filing an appeal of the Southwest Voter Registration Education Project v. City of Huntington Beach, case number 30-24-01397379-cu-cr-njc. Thank you.

Thank you. City council member comments. Would anyone like to make a comment? Butch, go ahead.

Coming to City Hall on Sunday as I do every week to catch up on my work, I came across the weekly anti-government protest on the corner of Main and Yorktown. Every week, I simply drive by, park, and go up to my office. This past Sunday, I noticed something different. Several anti-government propaganda banners and signs were hung on Yorktown and Main Street sides of a private party fencing surrounding the new Mirasol Senior Living Project, currently under construction from City Hall. As usual, 20 to 30 protesters were gathered on the four corners, making up the main and Yorktown intersection. As usual, they were crossing the street, usually, and to their credit, in the sidewalks, but not always. Many protesters casually strolled diagonally across the intersection, creating pedestrian and traffic dangers. As usual, for this group, they had many signs and many of the words, spelled out F blank blank K, Trump, and F blank blank K, ICE. Every Sunday, while I disagree with them, they do have their First Amendment rights, just as I do. As I crossed Maine on Yorktown, coming to City Hall, I noticed banners on the private fence. Two banners displayed swastikas Picture? Thank you. I planned to tell the protesters that the fence was private and I didn't think the developer would appreciate anti-government propaganda messages they wanted to portray. While I was telling them that the signs on the fence were illegal, as was their crossing guard hindering traffic, Several protesters started yelling at me, and everybody's seen that, started yelling at me in the parking lot adjacent to PD. You can see that on the widely publicized video circulated on social media, one gentleman said something along the lines that I need to go vape. Now, I thought that was funny. But another gentleman said, and I'll use that word cautiously, said something to the effect that he wished or wanted me to die, probably referencing my brush with death three months ago. That, of course, is when I told him what I told him, and everybody saw that. In retrospect, I wish I had used another pejorative. It seemed so natural, being that I was being accosted by people that were carrying signs with the F word on it. So to everybody here and everybody that's watching on TV, I apologize for using such a crude word to somebody I didn't even know. As a veteran that served this country, it truly makes me sad to see our duly elected federal government compared with Adolf Hitler and his Nazi party, not to mention carrying signs with obscene words. Thank you. Thanks, Butch.

I just want to remind everybody that the surf contest is happening starting this Saturday all the way for like eight days. And then amongst that will be some of my favorite events is the Hall of Fame and the Walk of Fame. Walk of Fame is on the 30th and Hall of Fame is on the 31st. Those are great events. And along what Butch is saying is, I'll say it again. I know in my, I love this city. I love even this state. The country, there's no better. I've been to Russia. I've been to China, Cambodia, and a lot of other places. And I'll tell you, You don't feel walking down the street in St. Petersburg or Moscow or anywhere in China, the security of just knowing the rights you have that you enjoy and live with in this country. There is no place else. And I'll tell you, I even asked one Russian guy one time, I said, why does everybody look so miserable? He says, what the hell do we have to be happy about? He says, and I asked him, because he was a little outspoken, and he says, I'm over it. He says, yeah, now with Putin, and this is years ago, and he says, with Putin back, he says, yeah, your neighbors, they're there one day, gone the next, and you don't ask questions. You don't see that here. And there's no place for it here. We're America. We live under the greatest flag and what it represents of all our freedoms. And people are ready to flush that down the toilet seeing it in a federal level and a lot of different cities and things. We don't need it. We shouldn't accept it. And we ought to fight it every step of the way. I love this country and I'll fight for it. That's it.

Anybody else?

I'd like to start by reminding everyone that the opening of the New Surf Museum will be this Friday. Actually, I have the time. What time was it? Four o'clock?

Five o'clock.

Five o'clock. So don't forget to come on down. And, you know, I agree with what Pat said. It really is sad to see so many people. And, you know, the sad part is that these are people that are born in this country. They're born in the United States of America, the best country on this planet. the country where millions and millions of people risk their lives to come to. I don't see that happening in any other country. Maybe I'm aware because both of my parents are immigrants and they both immigrated from countries where their governments failed them and they never had opportunities, but it truly is sad to see Americans spit on this country and completely disregard our veterans and everything that this country has stood for. I'm not gonna let anybody tell me that we do not live on the best country on this planet. And it's really, really sad to see so many Americans take that for granted.

On a much lighter note, it's my son's birthday today. So I just want to wish my boy Noah, he's 11 today, a happy birthday. And I look forward to being with you later, son. Happy birthday.

In the last meeting, I referenced a couple of speakers with Bright Star. really heartfelt speakers that I would see if there's anything I could do with no sway over the Ocean View School District or any district for that matter. I did meet with Judy, the proprietor of Bright Star, an incredible lady, toured her school. It was filled with kids, happiness, great workers there, great teachers, really becoming environment. She's worked there or it's been her business for 30 plus years. I also did speak with the district a couple of times. And although I don't think there's a deal yet in place, I'm not going to completely give up. I promised Judy that there's a few more conversations I'm hoping to have. Again, as a city councilman, I have really no sway over the final result of what does come from the conversations. But there's one or two more conversations I want to have. I will mention Mr. Farrow was very easy to speak to with the district. that they can come together even if it's just for another one-year deal, which would be great for the students, great for Judy, great for the school district, and give everybody time to look for alternative solutions as opposed to a vacant building. So it's not completely dead, but from my perspective, I'm going to continue to do what I can, keep the faith, and we'll see what happens.

Just to wrap it up, I just want to give a kudos to Old World. I actually went and saw two World Cup games there over the past couple weeks and I was just really impressed with how much work and investment they've put into that property. The family, Bernie and his sister that own it. The place is packed. People are having a really good time. Food is actually excellent. They renovated the bathrooms. And just the World Cup in general was just, you know, not the biggest soccer fan, but you couldn't help but just get wrapped up in it and just be so proud of how America showed on the world stage. And my favorite thing was watching clips online of people that aren't from America coming here for the first time and just being amazed. and how beautiful it is and how clean it is and how they're unfortunately told internationally that it's not this way. For them to validate what we see in our daily lives was fun to watch and all those great stories. Just thank you to Old World for really putting on a great viewing party for every game for the whole World Cup. Up next is Adoptable Pet of the Month. Tonight we have Denise Woodside from OC Animal with the Adoptable Pets of the Month. Denise, please come on up and tell us about Frost and Isabelle.

Good evening. Oh yes, Isabelle was the one making some noise earlier. I am joined by Dawn, and she has frost. And we wanted to show you some of our friends we have at OC Animal Care available for adoption. and if you're looking for an active running buddy or maybe somebody to go on a walk with isabel is your gal and if you're looking for more of a couch potato frost would be your guy you can learn more about oc animal care and frost and isabel on our website at ocpetinfo.com thank you so much do you want to talk about um

I think you said boarding opportunities, right? Where they can have the animal come first to their house and make sure there's a good fit before they actually adopt it?

Oh, yes. Oh, thank you.

Thank you.

She's very busy. She's so curious. Okay, yes, if you're interested in either fostering a dog for us, you can foster. That program is also, information's also available online at ocpetinfo. under Get Involved, but we also have our Dogs Day Out program where some dogs can go out for a field trip for the morning and you get to learn more about the dog, we get to learn more about the dog, and they get to have a fun adventure in Orange County.

Thank you.

Thank you, Denise. Up next is our business highlight section of the meeting. So tonight, we continue to celebrate the businesses that invest in Huntington Beach and strengthen our local economy. We'll welcome new businesses, recognize our top 25 sales tax producers for Q1 of 2026, and highlight two local businesses through our Minute with the Mayor series. So first, we want to welcome Bacio de Latte to Bella Terra. which opened this past weekend. Founded in Milan in 2011, Bacio del Latte brings authentic Italian gelato made with traditional recipes and high-quality ingredients to Huntington Beach. Up next, we want to welcome Pizza Factory, which is scheduled to open tomorrow at Beach Boulevard and Adams Avenue. For more than 40 years, Pizza Factory has been serving communities with hand-tossed pizzas, fresh ingredients, and commitment to family-friendly dining. Now we want to highlight our top 25 sales tax producers in the city. So the city receives quarterly sales tax performance updates, which provide insight into the businesses that make significant contributions to Huntington Beach's economy. So tonight we'd like to recognize our top 25 sales tax producers for Q1 of 2026. As you can see Arco, Car Pros Kia, Chevron, Classic Camaro, Costco, Delilo Chevrolet, Home Depot, Huntington Beach Chrysler Dodge Jeep and Ram, Huntington Beach Ford, Huntington Beach Hyundai, Huntington Beach Mazda, Huntington Beach Toyota, Hyatt Regency, Hyundai Lease Tilting Trust, Lowe's, Norm Reeves Honda, Pinnacle Petroleum, Reliable Wholesale Lumber, Surf City Nissan, Sullivan Subaru Huntington Beach, Target, Toyota Lease Trust, Trader Joe's, Walmart, and the Waterfront Beach Resort. So thank you guys for being top producers. Continuing with the mayor series, tonight we're highlighting two local businesses. So this week, we're featuring Jersey Mike's Subs, a locally owned veteran owned business that has proudly served Huntington Beach since 2007. I'm joined by Councilman Burns and friends as we visit the franchise owner, Dan Sissel, whose family owns all of the Jersey Mike's locations in Huntington Beach, including their newest restaurant at Seacliff Shopping Center across from Huntington High School. Jersey Mike's is known for its fresh made sandwiches and its long standing commitment to supporting local schools, youth sports, veterans organizations, and community events. So thank you to Dan and the entire Jersey Mike's team for your continuing investment in our city.

What's up Huntington Beach? I'm Mayor Casey McKeon with special guest Councilman Pat Burns. Today's episode of Minute with the Mayor takes us down to the New Jersey Mike's at Yorktown and Golden West. Let's go meet the owner, Dan.

some buzz enjoy some jersey mike sandwiches dan appreciate it thank you guys for being here yeah i'm sure everyone knows jersey mike's but what makes you uh your guys jersey mike's different we are a locally owned family owned veteran owned business all five jersey mikes in huntington beach are owned by my family we give back to the local community we've always felt that we are going to be the neighborhood sub shop and we can't be the neighborhood sub shop if we're not involved in our neighborhood You offer other services too, correct? So in addition to made-to-order subs when you come in, you know, fresh sliced to order, fresh grilled hot subs if you want a cheesesteak, we're going to throw it on the grill right in front of you. But also we offer our catering. We have our catering boxes where you can get 12 individually wrapped subs or we can do individual lunch boxes and we can kind of tailor those to size and we can add drinks, cookies, all kinds of things like that.

And tell us about the new location right across from Money's Beach High School.

New location here. We've actually been waiting this center out for about 18 years, and we finally got our foot in the door here. And this has actually been great. We're right across the street from City Hall, right across from Huntington Beach High School. We're a big sponsor of the baseball team. We get a lot of the baseball players over there all the time.

I was just going to note, conveniently, right across the street from the baseball field at the high school.

And a short walk from the football field in football season. So we got you covered. Thank you, Dan. Yeah, absolutely. Right, JP?

That's right.

Yeah. That's another local gem right here in Huntington Beach. It's forever to support local and keep Surf City thriving. See you at the next stop.

What's up, Mike? Thanks, Dan. Up next, we're featuring Vanity Compound Medical Aesthetics, a locally-owned wellness and aesthetics practice located at Peters Landing. I'm joined by Jennifer Deluzio-Foss to learn more about Vanity Compound's personalized approach to aesthetic care, offering advanced treatments including skin treatments, injectables, body contouring, IV therapy, and medical weight loss. Beyond wellness, Vanity Compound is committed to supporting our community through partnerships with local organizations, schools, charities, and community events. So thank you to Jennifer and the Vanity Compound team for welcoming us and showing us the passion behind your business.

This episode of Minute with the Mayor takes us to Vanity Compound Aesthetics at Peters Landing in Sunset Beach. Let's go meet the team.

Jennifer, why don't you give us a tour of Vanity Compound?

I'd love to. Come on. It is Huntington Beach, and we have a ton of people with tattoos. And not everybody wants them. So peek away is the best tattoo removal you're going to find anywhere on the market. IV hydration and peptides, we'll get back over there in a few minutes. laser hair removal, which, interesting little side fact, 40% of our patients are men.

Nice.

No pressure, but IV hydration, tattoo removal, and laser hair removal.

Okay, how long have you guys been in Huntington Beach?

The business has been here for three years. We've been in Huntington Beach most of our lives.

Why'd you guys choose Huntington Beach to open up your business?

It's our home. Everything we do is right here.

And how big is this? It's a big space. How big is this?

3,000 square feet. Wow, okay. This is it. IPL, hydrofacial, glow facial, custom facials. We literally do everything.

That's another local gem right here in Huntington Beach. Just remember to support local and keep Surge City thriving. See you at the next stop.

Looking fresh.

What's up? Thank you to all our businesses that continue to, yeah. Can't you guys tell?

Thank you to all the businesses that continue to invest in Huntington Beach and contribute to our local economy. Really appreciate your partnership and commitment to our community. Up next is community events announcements. Madam Clerk, please call for community event announcements.

The City Council will now receive announcements for community events only. Community events announcements are accepted in person only. Please come down and queue in the designated area along the stairs and use either podium. State your name and address, name for the organization for the record. Each organization is allotted two minutes for the announcement. If you're here for our community event announcement, please come down. We have our lovely Jason Schmidt, treasurer.

Jason Schmidt, city treasurer. Good evening, council members. I have one quick announcement tonight regarding the financial literacy and workforce development training I mentioned to you during our last council meeting that starts next week on Monday, July 27th at 12 p.m. at Golden West College. We have already had well over 30 people sign up for the program, but thanks to the extreme generosity of Golden West, we're going to extend the sign-up deadline to this Thursday, July 23rd, so we can offer this program to even more individuals. As a reminder, the program is absolutely free for anyone who's 18 to 28 years old and lives in Huntington Beach, Fountain Valley, Garden Grove, or Westminster. This program will be held every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday from 12 to 1.30 for the next three weeks at Golden West College from July 27th to August 14th, and lunch will be provided at all sessions. Students are going to learn about things like opening a bank account, balancing a budget, investing for the future, and succeeding in the workforce. Everyone who completes the program will be eligible for cash awards, financial scholarships, and free clothes to make that amazing first impression at that next job interview. The program is a great way to meet employers who are hiring right now for jobs in a variety of fields, including technology, restaurants, hotels, health care, nursing, child care, cosmetology, manufacturing, automotive, nonprofits, and government. All you have to do to sign up is scan the QR code or type in the website address on the flyer and fill out the form. It is only going to take a minute, and it could change your future. Thank you.

Thank you. All right, moving on to supplemental communications. Madam Clerk, do we have any supplemental communications?

There are no supplemental communications.

Moving on to public comments. Before we begin public comments, I would like to announce that pursuant to new state legislation, Senate Bill 707, public comments will be accepted both in person and remotely via Zoom. The city clerk will not read profane, obscene, or otherwise inappropriate Zoom display names or identifiers. Instructions for providing comments on Zoom can be found on the agenda cover page and on the city clerk webpage. The city clerk will provide instructions for participating in public comment. Madam Clerk, how many speakers do we have?

19 in person, five on Zoom.

Thank you.

The city will now receive announcements, will now receive public comments for any topic including items on the open session agenda. If you are here to provide in-person comments for open session, your number will be called. Once your number is called, queue in the designated area along the stairs. Use either podium and state your name, if you would like it reflected in the minutes. If you would like to provide comments via Zoom for open session, please raise your hand. You will be called to speak by your Zoom identifier. Once called, please be prepared to unmute yourself and speak. We will now call numbers 21 through 30. In person speakers number 21 through 30, queue in the designated area along the stairs. Thank you.

Please proceed.

Hi, council. I'm Dave Chenault. I'm with the Finance Commission. I'm here to let the public know tomorrow we're going to be meeting in this room at 4 o'clock. The primary topic will be talking about the sports complex. We'd love to have as much of the public there as possible. We're going to have the people that are behind the current operation to present more details from the last council meeting. We also have a lot of questions for them. And it's really a chance for the public to learn more about what they're proposing and look at different options. We're working very hard. I want to thank staff. Jennifer has attended a couple meetings, so thank you very much. We've had different folks in the different departments help us quite a bit. And we're working very hard for the public and free council to come back with some recommendations as well as more information. So just wanted to let the public know tomorrow 4 o'clock. It's recorded if you can't make it. And we generally meet on the fourth Wednesday of each month at 5. This month's a little early. So if you can be here tomorrow at 4, we do welcome public comment and we would love to hear from you. Thank you.

Next speaker, please.

Hi. Sorry, never done this before. My name is Robin Augustin. I live off Ettinger on Belfast. Friday was our fourth accident in front of my house. I have had two times where I've had to call ambulances. I have had a hole in the, what's the wall, honey? The wall, it took four months to get that fixed from an accident. I honestly have talked to people since my child was in pre-K and he actually went to Bright Star. My son is now entering seventh grade. I am honestly scared that someone will die in front of my house. and nobody's doing anything. We have people going over 60 miles an hour both ways on Ettinger. We have a turn lane going to our street, which is Belfast. We have people coming off Ettinger, going into Belfast. They were going 40, 50 miles an hour. We have people cutting through and going 40, 50 miles an hour, going the back way to get to the freeway. And I have talked to people, Barbara, who was way back when my kid was in pre-K, I have talked to people after they have cleaned up. I have talked to, I went and I've talked to the police. And I'm not kidding you, I am completely serious. Someone will die in front of my house. And I want a stop light, not a stop sign. because, can I bring this over and show this to you?

You can give it to the, by the frame. It's okay.

Thank you.

So I wanna stop light at Belfast, okay? We need a turn light coming in. I need a turn light going out. You have a light at Golden West College, and then people floor it. And then the next light isn't until what, Edwards? Edwards. And people are going 60 miles an hour. And we have had, like I said, we have had four accidents, two of which I've had to call fire and ambulance. And I have a child, and there are several children that live on Belfast, and these are not people that are coming from the daycare. These are people in the morning between the hours of 6 and 9 mostly, and it's also during the afternoon. I've even told the police, give me one of those ray gun thingies, and I will stand at my pertaining wall, and I will get people, not get them, but I will, what's the word?

Miss, if you can, the sergeant, it will give you a blue card. If you could fill that out with your contact information, and then we'll reach out to you and talk about it further.

Good evening. My name is Kathy Carrick and I'm a 50 plus year resident of Huntington Beach. Good evening mayor and council members. It's easy to judge an emotional reaction from a short video clip, but social media rarely tells the whole story. Context is frequently left out to fit a political narrative. When subjected to continuous hostility and aggressive personal attacks, anyone can be pushed to their limit. While high standards matter for elected officials, basic human empathy and context matter too. The poet R.H. Grenville noted, if you want to be respected, you must first respect others. We cannot control national politics or calculated online outrage, but we can control how we treat each other right here in Huntington Beach. Passionate debate is healthy, but constant anger and harassment are not. I urge my fellow residents to bring their concerns to this council with respect and civility. Let's set an example for how a community works together to solve problems. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My name is Mr. Amory Hanson. I'm speaking tonight in support of item 31, the Mayor and Councilman Burns and Kennedy's item to create a semi-concentennial plaque. Huntington Beach officially celebrated the semi-concentennial of America on July 4th, but this celebration has been an overarching theme of 2026. This plaque will be a lasting remembrance of an important moment in America and Huntington Beach's history. Once again, I urge a yes vote on item 31. Thank you.

Next speaker, please.

Good evening, Mayor and City Council. Tim Geddes in the house, and once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more. Well, I appreciate the report from the city attorney's office on the closed session. Finally, we get something. All cases, court cases on subjects like housing and voting are vital to an informed community. And we need to know more, and we shouldn't have to dig for it. Next, I would like to reference agenda item 21, 26607, the response letter to the OC grand jury related to the state housing mandates. I read all 18 findings and 17 recommendations, and I actually agree with many of them. The letter from city manager Travis Hopkins sounds quite reasonable, except, The city council has been uncooperative and combative from the outset and has been rightfully taken to task by the state for failing to meaningfully address its housing element responsibilities for years now. Not only has there been no positive leadership on housing issues, but there has been much, shall we say, negative leadership involved. This has damaged the city and has left us wide open to penalties, restrictions, sanctions, and loss of local control. Our civic reputation has been damaged as well. We need a new direction with a new council majority which could make things right. This lipstick on a pig letter will fool no one and will not satisfy the powers that be. The well has been poisoned. It is only a complete overhaul of the city council will do. You can cue Surf City for that. Moving to agenda item number 31, 638, the America 250 plaque to be installed at Pierre Plaza. Is this from those wonderful folks who gave you the mega library plaque? The public needs to see all design elements and budget figures on this council vanity project before it is set in bronze. And please, no bronze Trump statues either, thank you. Finally, we heard the comments from our Mayor Pro Tem, Butch Leining, about his little experience on Sunday afternoon at the peaceful protest, I might add, at the intersection of Maine and Yorktown. I was there, Butch, and so was a media representative with a camera and a microphone. I believe the expression you used was, go F yourselves. We weren't at one of your rallies at the pier, Butch, and we were right by City Hall. Thank you.

Next speaker, please.

Good evening. Tonight, I'd like to thank Mayor Casey McKinn and City Council for the epic 4th of July party that we had on the 4th of July. We had a fantastic parade. We had a great car show. Thank you to Aaron Kaufman and Tyler Wolf. And thanks to Beef Palace who closed their store and paid their employees to come down and manage the barbecue. And I want to thank Chief Parra for all of the police reinforcements. And I understand we also had sheriffs downtown. to keep order in our city. I want to thank Redneck Rodeo and the Ramsey Brothers for the entertainment. And we even had a mini fair for the kids. And let's not forget City Works who did a fantastic job cleaning up after the fair. I was down there Sunday and the place was spotless. So good job. Thank you very much. I love this city. I'm a fourth-generation property owner in Huntington Beach. I wouldn't live anywhere else. This is the best city in the United States as far as I'm concerned, and I just want to thank you very much.

Thank you. Next speaker, please.

Happy birthday to your son, Noah, first of all. I actually had a whole public comment written, a number of things that I wanted to speak about that were on the agenda, and then heard what was said by y'all at the start of the meeting, and I can't. Are we for real? Honestly. The amount of times that members of this council have said vile, offensive things to your constituents and then we hear people go, oh well that's fine, I don't mind that because I don't agree with those people. Or I would have said it too. And then we come to a city council meeting and there's some kind of ham-fisted, oh I'm so sorry, I felt emotional and so I said this. I have been an open trans activist in this city, being involved in activism in this city for several years now. Do you know how many times I've had people tell me that I should die? Do you know how many times I've had, three times I've gotten the exact comment, oh, that's fuel for the wood chipper. People who sit in the, Is that mic off? Okay. People who sit in this chamber who have said things to me. Do you know what I never do? I never tell them to go fuck themselves. Because I understand that I have a responsibility as a openly trans person in this city where a lot of people, I'm the only trans person that they know. And so the way that I communicate represents the other trans people in this community. The way that you communicate represents the other people in this city. I also love this city. I love living here. I love my neighbors. I love being able to go to the beach and just watch the waves with my coffee in the morning. I love going to the library. I love the folks that I get to know in the Oakview community. I love so much about this city. And that is why I join the people on Sunday periodically who protest at City Hall. Everyone who's there loves this city and they deserve basic respect. That should not be controversial, that should not be bipartisan. Shame on you, shame on you.

Next speaker please.

Hello, my name is Linda Diaz. I am for real and I do not believe in shame. And I came here to thank you, Mayor McKeon, for a wonderful 4th of July parade, that 250th celebration, parade and celebration. Outstanding, memorable, monumental are a few words I'd like to use to describe it. And I want to thank all of you city council, it was wonderful seeing you up there cheering. We're just clapping for you, loving you, just thanking you. We thank you for all that you do. It may not seem like it, I'm only one of many that aren't even here, but we appreciate all that you do and all that you have to listen to, because we love all our people. straight, gay, trans, and there is no discrimination under the American flag. I've got to say that. I also want to say that I brought our son in from the East Coast, from Virginia, just for the parade. And the grandkids were here, and it's generational. This parade that you bring, the celebration, the Fourth of July, the fireworks, all of that, it's about community, it's about families coming together, and it's generational. And we love it, we appreciate it, we thank you, we honor you, and it may seem a little in some of the things that do, words that are shared here, but just know that you're loved. We support you, we honor you, and we treasure all that you do. Thank you for bringing, making Huntington Beach wonderful. That's all I want to say in gratitude to all that you do. Thank you.

Thank you.

Next speaker, please. Andy Einhorn, Huntington Beach. First, I would like to thank the true organizers of the parade. I thought they did a great, terrific job. Real leadership governs from the center. Every resident, not for cronies, donors, or ideologues. This council does not govern. It litigates. Memory lane has shown you have burned through taxpayer money in courtroom after courtroom, losing case after case, and the bill goes to the Huntington Beach citizens. This swamp of failed leadership is a portrayal of public trust, and Huntington Beach citizens are learning exactly who's responsible for this strategic litigation failure. Respect for residents is not a talking point. When a council member curses at a citizen on a hot mic, this body owes a response. You gave none and silence is complicity. We demand a real budget, no tricks, no rated reserves, no more giveaways like the 30 year air show deal. Some of you on prior councils eliminated the volunteer citizens committee who gave their time freely on this city's future. But no room for citizen voices here. This is not leadership, that was arrogance on your part. But with a new council, this committee could come back. I support the Surf City history. However, library services are now being pushed aside for a surf museum. $500 a month rent for approximately 1,700 square feet on Main Street, that is a real sweetheart deal. Rent should be in the thousands. And is that $500 rent even current? or just another delinquent account on this council's books. Stop wasting time on statues and plaques while our infrastructure crumbles. Huntington Beach needs new leadership, leadership that serves our people, our infrastructure, our city's reputation, not themselves. Thank you.

We will now hear from our Zoom callers. As a reminder, Zoom callers, when you hear your name called, please unmute yourself. We will now hear from our Zoom speakers. Bethany Webb, it is your turn to speak. Please unmute yourself now.

Hi, Bethany Webb, long time Huntington Beach resident, anti-fascist. I want to start by recognizing the ridiculousness of the opening comments and praise the patriots that go out every Sunday to fight for the country we love. The swastika signs are anti. Nazi, anti-fascist. People are out there sweating because they love this country. We show up, we talk about this city because we love this city. And we are watching the decline of both our city and our country at the hands of mega fascist circus clowns. This is really simple. Donald Trump's approval rating right now is in the 30s. His disapproval is in the 60s. Nobody is buying this anymore. Huntington Beach does not want your circus. They don't want a statue Mr. Burns of Trump, that the amount of, you're gonna have to have somebody guard it to stop people from destroying it. When are we gonna get back to doing things for the city, balancing the budget? We lost the Olympics because you're clowns. The idea that the vapor Mr. Twain couldn't handle it, he drove towards those people. He started the conflict. He could have gone on his way and let people express their First Amendment rights. So yes, he expressed his. He told citizens, a young woman, to go fuck themselves, as Mr. Burns on his hot mic called somebody a fucking cow. You're disgraceful to this city and to this country. And by the way, yes on A and B showed us something. Huntington Beach rejected MAGA. 60% rejected it. We are going to vote in a new city council of moderates. Nobody wants full left, full right. We just want a city that will pay attention to the people, to what the people need. So here's an idea for anybody listening. Some really easy names to remember. The first two rhyme, Aaron and Tarrant. The second two, Brenda and Ben, the two Bs, Erin and Taryn, Brenda and Ben, those are the serve city for. If you want to get our city back to doing the people's work.

Next speaker, please.

Speaker number ending in 8238. It is now your turn to speak. Please unmute yourself.

Thank you, Council, for the opportunity to speak for your city. My name is Craig Jeffrey, founder of Parents Right to Build Children. I've been doing this for 23 years. I've had a lot of activity and bringing good information and changing things in the legislature for law enforcement. I am addressing the concern before you. There are two documents, one is a public comment and another one a press release to vote. What happened in Times Beach, there is a contributing factor associated with it that causes violence. And my work has been given to the President of the United States, Sanctuary Health, and the FCC. I've got a sense of research. I have a website, socialemotional.pe.s, that will take you there. However, the problem is that we have a lot of child abuse going on because we don't see that the social media is causing physical harm to our children's brain development. I've gone to the entire schools in Orange County, and I would say we have a problem. And I would encourage that we become mindful of what we want education around the world there is going back to pencil and paper. And I think once you see that and the common delay that's affecting our ability to contain violence in our schools and so forth, we've gone the wrong direction. There is a school beyond screen petition, North Carolina Board of Education, a thousand more. They did San Diego and they did Los Angeles. I think we need to go back to supporting these initiatives and bring a calm to the storm and replace Brooks and Pencil. and HealthSquad, but the first HealthSquad that we're buying, it's doing very well. And we need the support of our legislators to help us in Sacramento. You will see in this analysis I've given you, it takes a little bit of a child. I strongly recommend that you partner with Tye Tye and strengthen and move forward to your elected members of Congress, because Kids Act was passed bipartisan, and the President of the United States, the Secretary of Health, said extreme time cost is mental health and the scc agrees i think trying to circle around this once you see the documentation i provided you you'd be very concerned about the issue of technology and grooming kids and schools thinking oceanside school said i have the document that it is esports is college bound and they're six right now they have problems and i hope that we can achieve the goals and proper utilization of technology in a way that it doesn't cause child abuse. And I'm in Congress and I'm in the state and I hope we can do a resolution that will identify this goal and objective of education and not to create a very destructive ability to read and write and so forth. I thank you for your opportunity to speak with you. I hope to answer any questions you may have, but I am on my website. You'll see the documentation June 14th on the blog on Christ in the United States of America. Thank you very much.

Next speaker, please.

Chris Clewe, it is your turn to speak. Please unmute yourself now.

Hey, City Council, it's Chris, long time Huntington Beach resident, running for AD72. And yeah, I just want to echo what multiple previous speakers have said on Butch Twining's non-apology apology. I have run security at that protest at the intersection of Yorktown and Main. And the only problems we have ever had are from far right mega people either threatening us or gunning their engines or literally attempting to run us over with their cars. So while I respect Butch's First Amendment, rights to tell someone to go fuck themselves. I think as a sitting city council member, you should not be saying stuff like that. You are someone who represents your community. And as someone who has been a representative of their community in the NFL, you are constantly told that what you do matters. And how you present yourself to the people around you, that matters. And so the fact that you felt okay saying this to people exercising their First Amendment rights, to people who are trying to point out that this government is creating concentration camps, that over 53 individuals have already died in ICE custody, and that somehow this is okay, none of us should be okay with that. The pinnacle of patriotism is to be able to tell your country when it is doing something wrong. And that's something that I hope you and Pat Burns and the rest of this council understand is that you cannot just say you are American and that you are patriots. You actually have to do the work. And a very notable quote from the Nobel Prize winning author, Sinclair Lewis, is that when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. And I cannot think of any greater example of that than this city council. Because everything you do is not about the community. It's about grandizing yourselves and making yourselves look better regardless of who you hurt. And so I just want you to understand that as Huntington Beach residents, we want you to act for us. We want you to create a better Huntington Beach for everyone who lives in the city, regardless of whether or not they voted for you. So please keep that in mind, work for the best outcomes for your community, all of your community, and stop promoting this obvious fascist. Next speaker, please.

Thank you.

Louis Maturino, please unmute yourself. It is your turn to speak.

Can you guys hear me?

Yes. Please go ahead.

I'm a United States Marine Corps veteran, Huntington Beach resident, born and raised in Southern California. I want everybody to know, whether it's left or right, our country's being taken over, it's being overran by a foreign government. Everyone needs to understand what APAC is and see where all our tax dollars are going. Whether Huntington Beach or not, we're sending billions and billions and billions of our tax dollars to 90 other countries. And people need to understand what's going on. This isn't left versus right anymore. Our government's taken over. Our government has been taken over by a foreign entity. And I just want everybody to understand what's going on and to do their research on APAC. That's it.

Next speaker, please.

We will now hear from the next in-person speakers, numbers 30 through 40. Please come down and queue at the designated area. Thank you.

Go ahead, sir. Hello there, counsel. I'm back. Mr. Burns, thank you for appeasing the masses, I guess, and taking my call. And basically, I looked at that, and you said, there's nothing you can do. And that's about the only thing we can get. I go to the newspapers, never get a call back. I filed a claim with the state, the housing authority. Haven't heard anything back from them. But it's the only thing. You guys have to look at the details here. Sit down with me, and I'm just going to give some highlights here. But basically, when Saunders came into Surf City, or Beach Cottages, formerly Pacific Ocean Park, the rent I paid was $978. It had been going up because obviously Huntington Beach was beginning to grow, so forth. Anyway, as of September 1st, I will be paying $3,384. That's an increase of 246%. Now, if you divide that by 13 years, the effective rate is 12% per year, which is impossible. It's possible because it's been happening. He's charging way too much money. He wants to take over the whole park, all the seniors. Some of the seniors try to sell their houses. They rehab them and so forth to his contractor's satisfaction. But they never sell because they tell him, well, just tell your new buyers that we're going to increase the rent by another $200, $300. So the deal closes. Now, there's people like me who've been there 23 years myself, but the family bought the place back in the 60s. I'm not going to move that place. I can't sell it because it's old, and I haven't really rehabbed it. I'm going to keep it neat, but it's too old. It's over 60 years old. So I have to put up, I have two jobs now. I got another job. You know, 78 is tough, but I guess it keeps me in shape. But, you know, I need your help to talk to Saunders. Mr. Burns says he talks, or you see him, he knows him and so forth. We gotta sit him down. Maybe come down here and let's talk about it. What's going on? I'm a senior, I'm 78 years old. I can't go to my bank. I can go rob a bank, I guess, or whatever, but I don't tend to do that. Something's got to be done by you as a unit to talk to this guy and say, what's the problem here? Because there's a lot of seniors on my street. Two people get 150, I get 221. Well, you're closer to the beach. You cross the street? Give me a break. It's crazy. And like I told you last time, all of my money, my retirement, pays for the space rent. So just like all your commercial, I don't get a chance to do any of that stuff. I mean, I would go old school, you know, for me, you know, I go to perks and Neptunes and all that stuff like that, but it's just tough and I need your support. I need your support. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Yep.

Next speaker, please.

Hello, Jignesh Patiyar, lifelong resident here at Huntington Beach. It's been a while since I came and spoke. Good to see everyone here. Hope everyone's Fourth of July was great. It was nice to see you all on the parade and wave at everyone. And I didn't get a chance to see the fireworks at the beach. But if it was anything like where I was, it was safe and sound. Obviously, it was a lot louder than that. Agenda item number 31. I really do appreciate that as well. There's a lot of real estate on the Pier Plaza plaque right there. So it'd be really nice to put a commemorative 250th anniversary, I think everyone would really appreciate that and recognize the importance that that anniversary has not just for here, but for the entire nation, everyone visiting Huntington Beach. And that being said, a lot has been said about the protest that happens on Sunday over here off of Yorktown and main at the Civic Center. And it's kind of being painted in the light of just regular protesting and people just having a grand old time. And I've been down there myself, you know, because you would think that if people were with different opinions, want to have their voices heard, that a conversation should take place. But a lot of the time when you're trying to have open discussion and conversation, you're met with, you know, whistles blowing directly inches from your ear. ringing bells right in front of your face. And if you should react at any point in that, they will go ahead and accuse you of attacking them and assaulting them when in fact they're just antagonizing you and trying to get a ruse. And at the end of the day, I think the conversation needs to be had where we can have open discussion. And if you're trying to have this space where you want people to hear what you have to say and trying to understand what your position is, you would want to have a conversation and a discussion about it. But that tends to not happen all the time. And it's kind of sad. And I can't really reflect on Butch's words and actions. But at least from my perspective, it's kind of hard not to react when people are screaming in your face saying, get the F out of here. When they're holding signs that say, everyone's welcome. Please come by. You know, it's almost counterintuitive and oxymoronic. And it just kind of sends a bad message. And I just hope that, you know, if there is a time that we can have more conversation so we don't have to have these butting head ideas. Thank you.

Next speaker please.

Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and members of city council. My name is Linda Rodriguez and I serve as the Board of Director of Government and Community Affairs for the Orange County Women's Business Chamber. On behalf of the Chamber, I would love the opportunity to connect with members of the City Council and formally invite you to join us as one of our upcoming meetings. We would like to welcome you and provide an opportunity to connect directly with women business owners and professionals from across Orange County, learn about their work, and share more about the work happening in Huntington Beach and the community. I will be leaving a few of my business cards with contact information. I'd be happy to connect with you and your staff to coordinate an invitation and identify an upcoming meeting. that may work with your schedule. I apologize for not bringing enough cards, so I hope you can share. And I'll pass them along, maybe take a photo of it, and my contact information so you can have that and we can connect later. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to connecting with you.

Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please.

Good evening, thank you for letting me speak. I was here several council meetings ago, and I was inquiring why the entrance gate to the Overlook Park remains closed. I've reached out to several people in the parks department, nobody knows. I do know recently that they had put up a sign that you can park on the side streets, but why can't you use the parking spots that are allocated in the park like every other park? There is no other park in Huntington Beach that the entrance gates remain closed 24-7. During the pandemic, I was told that the reason they closed the gates was because they didn't want people congregating, but the pandemic's long past. So does anybody know why those gates remain closed, the only park in the city? I filled out a blue card last time and I haven't received a response. Do any of you live over there? Okay. All right. Do I need to fill out another blue card? And is there a limit or time frame where they're supposed to get back to you? You can't answer that?

Someone will get back to you. Fill out the blue card and someone will get back to you.

Is there a general time frame? Because it was, I don't know, two council meetings ago.

Okay.

Thank you.

Next speaker, please. Good evening. My name is Russell Neil. I'm in Huntington Beach. Now, some people are expressing shock and dismay at a word coming out of Councilmember Twining's mouth, which they have never heard before, except when it was coming out of their own mouth. I think it's something about a proprietary interest in this case. But concerning item 21, responding to the grand jury report on California housing mandates, my only objection is their use of the word unintentional. That these mandates destroy pleasant middle class neighborhoods while doing nothing to improve housing availability or affordability is far from unintentional. That is in fact their intended effect, as is their policy of driving industry and with it, good paying jobs out of the state. It is a sort of engineered poverty. The destruction of the middle class family structure of American society is very intentional. Senator Scott Weiner, the architect of many of these laws, has called single family homes and yards immoral. I suspect he has a similar view of the family itself. Democrats are collectivists at war, not only with individual homes, but with individual thought, speech, and belief. Their social model is the plantation, a society with a few rich rulers in big houses and the impoverished masses in slave quarters. It is a model they have not changed since antebellum times. This city has bravely fought against this agenda in court, and in spite of recent setbacks, continues to fight by whatever lawful means are available. Forwarding the grand jury finding to the judge with your comments is an example of that, and I encourage you to continue the fight. Thank you, and God bless you. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker, please.

Good evening, Chris Reni, Native. Saturday night I was waiting at a restaurant and some guy recognized me and said, hey, I see you at the council meetings, thank you for speaking up. In contrast, the same afternoon a council member told a constituent, go duck yourself. We expect our council members to set an example, not lower themselves to the hoi polloi. Now if the city really is a business, city council are the employees and the residents are the bosses. Any employee who cusses out their boss usually gets terminated in short order, not made mayor next year. And on the nature of businesses, Huntington Beach must be the best landlord ever, because you've let the surf museum be laid on rent twice in two months, and they've overstepped their lease agreement already. Plus, the museum is going to be closed on Saturday, August 1st, which is a real pity that it's going to be busy on the last Saturday of the US Open. That's a major lost opportunity. That is if people are going to wander five blocks inland. Also, I must take an exception that protesters are spitting on this country. We're not. We're reclaiming it from traitors. If we didn't care, we wouldn't be out there on Sunday afternoons. We're indignant that con artists hijacked this country through fear, stupidity, and hate. We believe in liberty and justice for all, not just white people identifying as Christian. And you show patriotism and faith through behavior, not just wearing red. Now Dr. Lawrence Britt identified 14 characteristics of fashionism, including nationalism, disdain for human rights, always calling someone the enemy, obsession with security, corporate power is protected, an obsession with crime and punishment, and cronyism and corruption. If you don't like comparing the United States with Nazis, stop trying to make us more like Nazi Germany. Thank you.

Any more speakers?

No more speakers.

All right, council committee appointment announcements.

Council members, do you have any council committee appointment announcements?

All right, AB 1234 reporting, does anyone have anything to report? Openness and negotiation disclosures, does anyone have anything to disclose? City manager, please introduce the report.

Thank you. Chao Vu, our Public Works Director, will provide our capital improvement project updates.

Thank you, Travis. Good evening, Mayor, members of council. We want to present some CIP updates as we do for projects that are valued over half a million. So for our first project, we want to present zone three overlay. The city is divided. The city's pavement program is divided into 12 zones. You see in the top right corner there. And streets are selected based on their PCI, which is called the pavement condition index. And that determines whether you get a slurry or an overlay. So we are going, we just finished Zone 3, and that's in the pink section that you see up top there. The project rehabilitated about 75 of the worst residential street segments in Zone 3, and it is bound by Bolsa Avenue to the north, Golden West to the east, Howell Avenue to the south, and Graham to the west. Work included limited localized pavement repairs, cracked ceiling, cold milling, striping as well as asphalt overlay. The project was awarded to Hardy Harper Incorporated. It was completed ahead of schedule. The overlay project extends the life of several streets and provides new asphalt surface for the next 12 plus years until the street is reevaluated for repairs. Oh, did I miss something?

What happened here? All right.

Financial impact. The funding sources for this project are infrastructure funds, Measure M, gas tax, water, and sewer. There were no change orders for this project. All bid items were covered in the scope of work. In fact, the project required less asphalt than originally estimated, which resulted in 2,300 ferro tons of asphalt under the bid quantities. resulting in $250,000 in construction cost savings. We also had reductions in cold milling and petrol mat quantities, which is a fiber. The total budget was $3,785,800, which is the budgeted amount and includes the construction contract, the change order, or not the change order, the contingency. There's a 10% contingency as well as supplemental costs. The final cost was $3.2 million. And so the remaining budget is about half a million dollars, which will be carried over into the next fiscal year and then reallocated as part of the budget process for capital projects.

Why do I keep doing that?

There's another slide. Conclusion? Keep going. Up, up. Yes, that one. So, this project was a success. There were no safety incidents reported, and the project was a critical investment in the city's local street infrastructure. It extended the life of the paved street It was delivered with minimal disruption to the schools, trash, delivery schedules, as well as businesses. We had an excellent working relationship and collaboration with the contractor. For the next project, we have HBPD women's locker room, but it's more than just a locker room. So, our facilities are old. It's from the 70s. This project not only includes the women's locker room, but includes the records room, offices, adjoining men's room at Civic Center. We added capacity to the locker room. We modernized it. We also made it ADA compliant. We have a video clip for you. Shannon, can you help play that please?

My name is Joseph Pinnell. I'm the capital projects administrator for the city of Huntington Beach. This is our PD women's locker room project that we just completed. It went from an 800 square foot building or space to 2000 square feet. So if you step over here, we'll go check out the new reduced records room. As you can see, the space is greatly reduced in size, but this machine really has allowed the records to maintain their same level of service. So we're very excited about that and adding to our new technologies here in the city. Office number one. We've provided new space in this construction zone. All of the mechanical, electrical, plumbing, walls, everything's brand new. So it's been a huge upgrade. This building was originally constructed in 1974, so you can only imagine what that might have looked like. In here is our new lactation room for new mothers. It's a private space for them, and we at the city really take care of our employees in that manner. Again, the main attraction. would be the new women's locker room. It used to be a galley style locker room. It had limited spaces and for our growing female staff, this will allow us to accommodate more staffing as we grow as a police department. So we have a number of large officer sworn lockers. Allow them to stow their gear and keep everything safe and tidy. And then over here, the smaller lockers are primarily for our civilian staff, but also too, they could be utilized and for the police officers as well. Everything in this space has been updated to ADA compliance. So we are ADA accessible, whereas the previous structure was not. We have new, three new restroom stalls, all new tiling, two sinks, and then three shower stalls, one of them being ADA accessible. And then lastly, we'll head out. Within this project, we were able to incorporate the men's restroom as well. There is a small janitor's closet for janitorial staff. And then the men's restroom has been created to mirror the women's as well, as far as design goes. But everything, too, has been updated for ADA compliance. And overall, we're really excited how this whole project turned out. So thank you.

OK. OK.

So that was Joe Pennell. He's one of our newer capital projects administrator who rose his way up through the ranks in public works. On to our project budget and schedule. The project was awarded to Full Swing Construction. Despite change orders, no additional working days were required to complete the construction deadline. We want to thank key personnel. It was all hands on deck with this project. Captain Riley and police department, public works facilities, our streets crews, IT for helping with the access controls.

I keep missing the financial for some reason.

Okay. All right. The funding source for this project was infrastructure funds. The total budget was $1,099,477 plus 20% contingencies. All in all, it was $5.6 million in total construction costs. We have a balance of $14,000. The project did have 10 change orders. I can explain. So they fall into basically three categories. Unforeseen existing conditions discovered during demolition. As I mentioned before, when it comes to vertical projects, you don't know what you're going to expect unless you open up the walls, knock them out, ceilings. There are things that have happened over time, especially if it was built in the 70s. We also have code compliance as well and lifecycle improvements that were completed as we had access to the components, whether it's HVAC, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, we had to fix it if we discovered it. We also had city requested operation improvements from the police department so we can support their needs. Overall, the changes are consistent with renovating an older facility where concealed conditions are not readily available or known. An additional wall was reconstructed because of the existing construction and what was discovered during the design assumptions as well as the as-builts. So the plans that we had did not exactly show what was there. So a lot was unknown. A drain line was added after field conditions were different from the record drawings. Additional framing was required to address concealed conditions upon demolition. Existing VAV units, which is a variable air volume system to help regular airflow to different zones, was also replaced. We had the ceiling open, and so we needed to replace that as an opportunity to a system that was already outdated, and it helps improve circulation and makes the HVAC system more energy efficient. Electrical power was added for the powered lockers. The men's restroom were upgraded for ADA compliance, as well as finishes that were added after the demolition. We had epoxy coating that was added to expose concrete curb. We had code compliant lactation room that was added at the direction of the client, which is Huntington Beach Police Department. Office refinishing had to be expanded to provide consistent finished product throughout the adjacent work areas. Minor finish improvements had also been added, including hardware, more painting, and mirror that had to be relocated. So, as I mentioned, despite unforeseen conditions, undocumented utility conflicts, the impacts of deferred maintenance discovered during construction, This was a successful project. The project was delivering a modernized, functional, code-compliant facility that improves daily operations, user comfort, safety, long-term maintainability for the department personnel. And through the continued coordination of our staff facilities, designers, contractors, and project man personnel, solutions were implemented. The completed renovation provides upgraded plumbing, ventilation, finishes, accessibility features, locker room amenities that better support the needs of department staff and extend the useful life of this facility. And that concludes my report.

Thank you, Chow. Do you mind going back to the paving schedule map?

Pavement. Yes.

Thank you. So I know some individuals come here and speak, and I've seen comments online that we don't focus on the normal functions of a municipality government fixing roads and potholes. And I always say, well, yes, of course we do. So it's important. I really appreciate you showing those photos of the amazing work you guys are doing. Oftentimes I'm at events and residents have specific questions about specific streets and when they will be repaved. Is there anywhere you can guide them to go perhaps online where they can see the paving schedule to understand when said street will be repaved or re-striped or re-slurried?

Yes, we can provide more detail on our website about our zone maintenance program and give them updates on where we're at, what zone we're in and what time frame we're at. So yes, we can update our website to make it more definitive.

Please, good example. This happened a couple of times this last weekend on how between Golden West and Gothard. And I let them know that one of our biggest projects is that lift station there. And once that lift station is complete, we will then repave that street. It doesn't make sense to do it now while those big trucks are going in and out and being up those streets. So yeah, if we could just on the Public Works tab on the website, get more updates about certain zones. I think that would address a lot of questions. Will do. Thank you.

Thank you for the demonstration. A couple quick questions. Thank you for the reports, by the way. So there was two projects. On this last one, can you restate what the budget was and what the final cost was? I thought I heard you, I saw the numbers, but I thought I heard the reference to five million. So I know I didn't see that up there. Can we see that slide, the budget, the change order, concession, and what the total spend was?

Yes. The slide here does not show the total budget, but I would have to describe it to you. The $1 million that you see up top plus the $219,895, it's a 20% contingency, equals $1.3 million plus the supplemental, I'm sorry, the $247,549 is another budget supplemental. So it leaves us a balance of $14,000.

So was the council budget for this project or the line item, the 1552, or is that the sum total? against what was budgeted. You know, the spirit of this exercise, and thank you for doing this, when we started asking for it was, you know, the simple things is, was it delivered on time, over time, were you happy with the vendor, and on budget, over budget, under budget. Those are kind of the three data points, and then the rest of it is just all the, you know, the fill in. Was it on time and under budget or at budget?

It was on time, under budget. Okay. We have a balance of $14,000.

Yeah, so when I heard the 5 million, I got a little confused there. Sorry. No problem. And then one other, or two quick questions. So I heard your reference that there was, the as-built drawings weren't what you saw when you got into the construction. Is that, I would imagine in the modernized world, the as-built drawings would always model exactly what's getting built. But because this is from the 70s, is this something that we're going to find with other projects that are older, that the drawings of record aren't necessarily what was constructed?

Yes. it's that's just the way it will be a common um obstacle that we would encounter for older projects yes they must not have been as good as department as you guys are now you wouldn't allow that we scan everything now okay and um one other question now i heard during the project

that the city was making some requests actually during the project. Is that the norm or is it? Yes. Okay, so there's a scope of work that's agreed upon. You go to work and then as you're doing that, Change orders happen when something's not the same as what you anticipated. But requests, I wouldn't necessarily consider that a change order. So as you guys roll these projects out, do customer, in this case the city, requests come into play quite often?

If we have contingencies and it's built into the project budget, yes. It could be at the request of the owner. In this case, our client was the police department. And there were contingencies available, and there was a need, and there was a request from our police department. And we were able to accommodate them and stay within budget.

Fantastic. Thank you for that. So with both vendors, would you say if, that was the one other thing we were kind of looking for. If you were grading them, they all got, it sounds like they came in under budget on time, so I would imagine they graded pretty well. Are you happy with both vendors?

Yes.

Okay, thank you, Joe.

All right, thank you. City Attorney Report, City Attorney.

Thank you, Mayor.

What's up, Vic?

So Shannon, are you gonna run through the, are you gonna do the clicker for me? Okay. So the slide deck is kind of extensive. I'm going to not go through all of the slides and I'm going to condense some of them, but we are here to answer questions and I invite everyone to review the slide deck because it's got some really good information. Excuse me. So back in 2016, previous city attorney Michael Gates and I discussed the possibility of creating a community prosecutor program. And at first I was kind of skeptical about the program, but to Michael's credit, he had a really good idea to add some additional tools to the city's toolbox to assist the police department in protecting the citizens against quality of life issues that often arise from lower level crimes. We met a number of times with the district attorney's office, and in July of 2016, the DA provided authority to the city to prosecute some state law crimes. Shortly after, and more importantly, the city council provided authorization for the program. Shannon, if you could go on to the last slide on the history of the community prosecutor program. Yeah, there we go. So we're probably caught up. So we implemented the community prosecutor program to support the law enforcement efforts of the police department and to prosecute crimes that impact residents, importantly, their quality of life, particularly in the city downtown area. The community prosecutor currently prosecutes Huntington Beach municipal code violations and certain California penal code violations. And just so you know, the charter actually provides authority for my office to prosecute municipal code violations, just not some of the state law penal code. violations. So we go on to program goals. Thank you. So some of the goals of the program are to work cooperatively with the DA to prosecute crimes impacting residents' quality of life, work cooperatively with the DA to prosecute crimes impacting the downtown, provide prosecutorial support for the police department, seek convictions, probation, stay away orders, restitution, etc. from folks who have committed crimes, and also to seek alternative corrective measures through diversionary programs. So I think Chief Parra sums up the success of the program, and if I could just quickly read through a quote he provided to our office. The City Attorney's Office Prosecutor Program empowers our officers to address quality of life issues that directly impact our community. With dedicated local prosecutors assigned to each case, carefully examining the merits of each unique situation, They can determine the best course of action to reduce repeat offenses while holding individuals accountable for their actions. Support of this program is crucial in maintaining the high quality of life we expect in our community. And I wish the chief was here, but I know he's very supportive of the program. In addition, I'm not going to read it, but Jessica Keeley, the manager of the Homeless and Behavioral Services for the city provided a quote as well. And that quote lauds the program for its success in helping reduce the homeless issues in our city. So if we go on, we'll go on to the next slide. And happy for you all to meet our community prosecutor, Steven Pomeroy. Stephen is sitting at the table over there and here to answer questions after we're done, if you'd like. Stephen started in the city in September 2021, has a BA from Berkeley, we won't hold it against him, JD from Loyola, and he was importantly a former deputy district attorney in Humboldt County and a resident of Huntington Beach, so he understands the city. So some of the common state law crimes that Stephen prosecutes are petty theft, resisting arrest, obstructing officers, trespassing, public intoxication, vandalism, to name a few. So the rest of the slide deck kinda goes on to describe all of the different crimes and some of the scenarios where those crimes take place, but I'm just gonna read a few. And, June 2025, a defendant stole $180 worth of merchandise from a local Target. He was arrested, and in October, he pled guilty, sentenced to one year informal probation, 60 days jail, which was commuted until the time the probation was successfully completed. Importantly, he agreed to remain subject to search and seizure, ordered to stay away from the store, and all of the merchandise was recovered. I'm going to go on to another important one, so if we go to the trespassing one, Shannon. So January 20, 26, defendant returned repeatedly to the Newland Center after he was asked to leave. He was arrested and pled guilty, sentenced to one year probation, 36 days in Orange County Jail, and ordered to stay 100 yards away from the shopping mall. So I'm going to go on to some of the municipal code violations that we run up against quite a bit. So Huntington Beach Municipal Code violations for unlawful camping, drinking in public places, loitering in city-owned parks, urinating in public, curfew violations, and smoking at the beach in the pier. So as to the unlawful camping, one example on December 2025, defendant was reported sleeping under a blanket on top of a makeshift mattress at the rear of a business in Beach Boulevard. Defendant was offered and refused housing resources. The defendant pled guilty and was sentenced to 30 days in Orange County Jail and had to pay fines and fees. There's some additional slides about Diversion for Homeless Individuals, Prop 36, and Prosecutor's Duty to Victims. I would invite all of you to maybe take a look at the slide deck and if you're interested, have a look and please get a hold of me if you have any questions. But I think I'll move on to the last slide, which is our case statistics, which kind of paints the the picture for the great work that Stephen's doing. So from July 1st, 2025 till June 30, 2026, the total number of criminal cases that were filed were 1,132. 1,132 cases in a year. We received 294 convictions, 147 diversion resolutions, 260 of the cases were dismissed for various reasons, including mental health issues and prior sentencing problems. And we currently have 423 pending cases that are either open and or with out for the arrest. So that's our program in a nutshell. The most important piece of this is that the community should understand it's the city council's unwavering support of my office and the police department that keeps our city safe. And we thank you for the continued support of our office in this program.

Thank you, City Attorney Vigliotta. Steven, thank you as well. Thank you to previous city attorney Michael Gates for starting this program. We talk about it often. Prosecutor program, as Mr. Vigliotta just outlined, is so critical to all our efforts, especially since I've been here in 22 and my colleagues. For the last four years, we've achieved the greatest homeless reduction numbers in our city's history. On the Orange County point in time count, we're the number one city in Orange County for homelessness reduction. Crime over these four years is down over 27%. It's a credit to you as our special prosecutor. It's a great local tool we've had to not only prosecute crime, but portray a posture that criminal activity will not be tolerated in Huntington Beach. So it's a testament to you. I really appreciate it. And just a question I have to keep the success of these data and metrics I just outlined. Is there anything else you need from us to give you more tools on the municipal side or from the council as a municipality that we can help you with?

Thank you, Mayor. You know, Mike's been a great boss, Mr. Vigliotta, and I would defer to him in terms of what we need. Openly, we are talking about, in the future at some point, retaining another criminal prosecutor, but that's a budgetary factor that, honestly, I'm just not familiar with the ability to go to in that direction. No, the city's been great. Mike has been great in terms of the support that I need and, you know, a terrific place to work.

Mr. Vigilante, so would another prosecutor allow you to process more crimes, process them more quickly, a combination of both, or what do you think?

You know, I think it's a great question, and as this program evolves, we'll certainly think about new ways to move it forward, and that may be coming back to the City Council to add another position for another prosecutor. Right now, I think Stephen's doing an excellent job handling the caseload, but if we were to expand the program, again, that would mean some other discussions with the district attorney's office, and so that is still a little bit in its infancy, but we'll come back and talk more.

Could it compress the timeline of when the crime occurs to when it's adjudicated? Or is it more just caseload?

It's more caseload.

Yeah, like I mentioned before, I work in the commercial real estate retail industry, and I do talk to a lot of big retailers, and they said they have noticed petty theft crime has gone down. That's a big thing for them, because they call it shrink, which is actually theft. But that's a big deterrent as well, because that's just robbing sales tax dollars from our city. And that's a big focus as well. So again, if there's anything you need from us, from the council for policy or legislation, just let us know, because it's been so successful.

Will do. And that's why I wanted to highlight that stolen merchandise case. It's the broken window theory. If you let little crimes take place, they just evolve and it turns into bigger crimes, bigger crimes, bigger crimes, and then you end up having a really problematic city.

Awesome. Thank you.

First off, when I see that slide right there, one word comes to mind, and that's deterrent. So I really like that. Regarding another prosecutor, it would almost be you hire them, you reduce the crime because they know it's a deterrent, and then you've got to say goodbye to them. That would be the perfect scenario.

No crime is the goal. Yeah, no program is the goal.

Just a quick question for the residents that are watching in regards to the flow of information, communication. So I know a lot of the community prosecutors, obviously it's proactive, so it's looking out and it's making sure that we're getting ahead of certain crimes. I know that we've posted good numbers, but I mean, as evil lurks in society, the work is actually never done. And I've communicated with a lot of residents where they start to see where certain areas have been cleaned out and then quickly whether it's behind fences or over by overpasses where there's criminal groups that actually start to and this isn't i'm not talking about homeless shelters i'm talking about actual groups that are more gypsy-like would it be beneficial for residents to reach out to your office um in any capacity or the community prosecutor do we continue just go through the traditional avenue of calling police when they're not necessarily committing a crime however you know ultimately there is going to be a crime committed and they develop kind of this nucleus of criminal activity.

Yeah, they need to contact the police department. We work on the back end once there's been evidence of a crime and it's been forwarded to our office. Gotcha.

Thank you.

I just want to thank you for putting this together. I was about to take some like 25 slides. You know, one thing that I'm very proud of is that people, who are not from Huntington Beach, no, not to come to Huntington Beach to commit crimes. We have a strong police department. We have a wonderful fire department. Our marine safety, which we don't talk about enough, is working all the time considering all those miles of beautiful beach we have to keep everybody safe. And everybody just kind of works together so well. And if we didn't have, if every department wasn't as strong as it was, we wouldn't be as safe as we are. So I'm really, really proud of the work that's been done the last several years. So thanks to our police, fire, marine safety, our attorney's office, everybody's been really great.

Great team effort.

Also Public Works. Public Works, they do so much. They're actually the ones that keep our city going. And we don't talk about them enough, yeah. I do. Yes, Casey does. Thank you.

Yeah, go ahead. How many other cities in Orange County actually have a similar program to this?

That's a great question. Steven, do you know?

Well, as far as I know, to my knowledge, it's just Anaheim and us, the city prosecutor program. There are other city attorneys or prosecutors in city attorneys' offices that handle many cities, and they just handle municipal code violation types of things. But as far as prosecuting penal codes, violations. It's just Anaheim and us.

I'm glad we're one of the two. I'm curious how much of the caseload involves e-bikes.

I don't handle minors. The district attorney's office will handle the minors, so I don't see e-bike violations.

If we had another assistant prosecutor, would we be able to handle the minors? Or is that like a policy where it all goes to the district attorney's office? So if we decided to increase enforcement, though, policy-wise, would we be able to handle those cases? Or do we have to give them to the DA?

I would defer to the Huntington Beach Police Department. they file the initial charges. So enforcement starts with them. And then they would funnel it to the DA's office. And honestly, I just don't know how they're handling it.

I guess in terms of being kind of a waymaker in Huntington Beach, I'm wondering if we could start kind of maybe spearheading, you know, a program like that for some of the greater offenders.

It's a great idea, and it's kind of the point I was making with the mayor is that to expand that program, we would have to have further discussion with the DA's office on how we allocate those cases. Right now, we don't have the authority over them.

Roger that. All right. Thank you.

All right. Thank you, guys.

right consent calendar yes mayor um i would like to pull one item yeah um item number 27 the abandonment abandonment of old pilot lane drive water well project we have a couple administrative things we need to do before we can bring that back to the city council that was 27 he said yes all right anybody else want to pull anything okay

I'd like to table item 19 for the time being.

Anybody else?

Motion to move the rest.

All right. Second. Did you get that, Madam Clerk?

Yes. Item 19 tabled. Item 27 pulled. Burns is the first. McKeon is the second. Councilman Grohl.

Yes.

Councilman Kennedy.

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Twiney.

Yes.

Mayor McKeon.

Yes.

Councilman Burns.

Aye.

Councilwoman Vandermark. Yes. Councilman Williams. Yes. Items pass 7-0.

All right. Let's see. Item 30. Administrative item. Staff, please introduce the report.

Thank you, Mayor. Tonight, I'm honored to bring forward a contract with Zach Zee to be our chief financial officer here in Huntington Beach. He served the Huntington Beach community for the past five years under several roles, most recently the assistant chief financial officer. And in the past seven months, he served as the acting CFO for the city of Huntington Beach.

He brings experience from private sector firms before coming to Huntington Beach and I would like to turn it over to Marissa sir to provide a quick staff report Good evening mayor and members of the City Council I have a very quick report for you that outlines the terms of the proposed employment agreement with Zach The compensation would be at placement at step e of the non-associated executive management salary schedule It's roughly 104 dollars per hour Other fringe benefits are tied to the non-associated resolution 202541, which includes city medical contributions, executive leave, cell phone stipend, and auto allowance. The agreement also includes severance language that's consistent with other department head employment agreements. And that concludes my presentation.

Zach, just for the record, can you pronounce your last name, please? Thank you. Can you spell it so everyone knows at home unless we can put it on the screen? I'll spell it. Z-I-T-H-I-S-A-K-T-H-A-N-A-K-U-L. He had the biggest jersey growing up on all the sports teams. Probably the last in the line. That's right. Thanks, Zach. Any questions, anybody?

Motion to move it as recommended.

Looking forward to it, Zach. You've been great so far, so continue the good work. You're very accessible and answer all our questions. So we really appreciate it and welcome aboard full time.

So Pat moved it. I'll second. Are we going to vote?

Yeah.

Councilman Kennedy.

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Twiney.

Yes.

Mayor McKeon.

Yes.

Councilman Burns.

Aye.

Councilwoman Vandermark. Yes. Item passes 5-0-2.

Thank you. Do you want to vote on it? Item 31, final item. Council Member Adams, Council Member Kennedy, please introduce the report.

Thank you, Mayor. So the issue statement is, it's regarding the monument down there at the pier, a beautiful monument. with some gorgeous, probably onyx, I don't know the type of stone, but what I noticed recently was there's probably three or four, the last time anything's been placed there was 2014, so most of that monument is blank. So because we are a patriotic city, we celebrated America 250. I reached out to the mayor and I said, we should probably think about adding something commemorating America 250, referencing those who served, freedom is not free, and the fact that Huntington Beach is a very patriotic city. So I can read the issue statement. It basically says the city of Huntington Beach is celebrating America's 250th birthday through many events throughout the year to properly memorialize the Huntington Beach America Semi-quincentennial celebration we propose engraving one of the black rectangles at the pier Plaza monument The script this is not going to be the final language But inscriptions to include things like Huntington Beach America 250 the the logo near the top the Huntington Beach the fact that we celebrate his historic moment of America's 250 birthday patriotic city proudly honoring and thanking all those who've served our great nation who remind us of freedom is not free and The recommended action is to set aside resolution 2017-25 and direct city, direct staff to create the engraving template for review initially by myself, Mayor Burns, or Mayor McKeon and Council Member Burns. Of course, the final draft will be brought back before the council for a full approval or vote, if you will, for the monument in Pierre Plaza to commemorate the Huntington Beach America 250 celebrations. Awesome. I'll second that.

Any discussion on it? Sure. Okay. I love the idea. Very good idea. But I'm curious why the set aside on resolution 27, 17, 25.

Just so it can come just directly back to council, not required to go down to the community library services commission. Just comes up to us. We'll bring the draft before you guys and just for final vote in basically 30 days.

I guess my only concern there is that the other council members as well as the public will be pretty much in the dark until, as it says, a final draft will come before the council. And then at that point, we really don't have a lot of opportunity to make adjustments, and the public won't have the same opportunity they would get to put together some input. And so those safeguards are put in place by a past council with Peterson et al. It was a 7-0 vote. And I don't see any reason why we shouldn't just simply follow the policy that was already in place. And it actually specifically contemplates a historical significant event such as this one. Shannon, if we could pull up the resolution. I mean, what jumped out to me was just, you know, setting it aside. And so in that highlighted section, number six right there, it says if a park feature or other community facility is to be named based on a finding of historical significance, i.e., the America 250, In addition to review by the Community Services Commission, the City of Huntington Beach Historic Resource Board will be consulted prior to a recommendation for the Community Services Commission to City Council. And so that Historical Resource Board, I mean, they eat, sleep, and breathe, you know, the history of Huntington Beach. And I would love to get, you know, some of their input in terms of what they think belongs on a celebration of 250 years, and then at the same time, you know, provide the opportunity for the Library and Services Commission to take a pass at it, and it gives the public an opportunity to look at it. And I just, I hope we're not in such a hurry that we're going to cut the corner there on that policy.

Yeah, no, I'd say we can, of course, take their input. I don't think it needs to be a final draft by August 18th. I think we, and this, between now and 30 days, we can get all input and bring a draft forward. Great. And then have discussions, and then bring it back again for final vote. You okay with that, Don? I mean, I...

So he's proposing one thing. What are you proposing?

Just change the war We don't need a final draft brought forward by August 18 just a draft brought forward and in the meantime Let's reach out to the historic resources board and any commissioners that they have comments and let's just keep the ball moving and then I second that I second your man now unlike you guys who left we're gonna point our new CFO I'll second that motion Okay, so what's the motion?

What was that last part? I said, unlike you two guys that left right when we're about to appoint our new CFO, you didn't vote on him. I don't know what the point was, and you didn't even abstain. I will second your motion, and what do I do? No. We went to use the restroom. You knew it was coming up. You both used it at the same time. There's only room for one. It doesn't matter to me. We voted on Zach. Welcome aboard, Zach.

This just kind of hit me off guard a little bit. Like, what's the implication that we were?

Just drawing a correlation. Mayor, good motion.

Just so I understand the motion, so is it, we're going to do three things at once, correct? We're going to work on the template. We're going to consult with the Historic Resources Board.

Fair enough.

And then consult with the park and library commissioners and then bring back a draft on August 18th and then we'll kick it around with the public and see if we want to make changes and then we'll bring back final forum at the next meeting and the next meeting thereafter. You guys okay with that? Yeah, I'll second that.

I got the substitute motion for you. I move to substitute the recommended action with the following that the proposed America 250 plaque and monument at Pierre Plaza be processed in accordance with resolution number 2017-25 and that the matter be referred to the Historic Resource Board and Community and Library Services Commission for review and recommendation back to the City Council.

So I'll do a substitute motion, which I just said is that we will work with staff, council on a template draft. We will consult with the Historic Resources Board. We will consult with our parks commissioners, bring back a draft before council on August 18th, and then kick it around. If we need another draft, we'll bring it back again.

I'm unclear. Are you still setting aside resolution 2017-25?

I am, yes. Because nothing's being named, so this is a plaque. And I think we're overthinking it. I think we can all do work together at the same time and still have a nice draft that comes here, and then we can make changes and bring it back. So that's my substitute motion.

So it's not specifically related to, like, naming after a formal council member or mayor. I mean, you're naming it. It's going to be a 250 plaque. So your belief right now, city attorney, does 2017-25 not apply because it's not specifically dealing with a name on the plaque?

I mean, it applies. You either set it aside or you don't. You're either going to follow the rules in the resolution and set it aside or not follow the rules and...

I suggest we follow the rules. That's all. Again, this was our H item. This is supposed to be something fun. It doesn't need to be controversial. We don't need to overthink it. I think we can do everything at once. I think we can satisfy your concerns. I think we can still work on this. We're towards the later half of the year. This is a big moment. Let's have fun with it. It doesn't need to... gets so technical, I think we can all work together on this. I mean, I've talked to the Historic Resources Board. I've just talked to Kathy Shea over email about it, about something else. We can talk to my commissioner on the Parks Commission. I mean, that's my substitute motion. So if there's a second, we can vote on it.

With all due respect, Mayor, I spoke with the Historical Resource Board, and they said that they would love to receive this. And so I would just say, let's follow the rules. Let's just follow the policy. I don't see any harm in doing that.

Well, they can still participate. I mean, we can talk with them often. It's not this... Again, I don't think it needs to get this technical and this, you know, made such a big deal about it. I mean, it's supposed to be a fun moment. It was a great historic event. Let's just work with them and us at the same time. And everything is going to come back for a draft. And if we don't like it, we can make changes and kick it down to them then or whatever. But let's just work on it. I mean...

Is it being named for anything? No. Is it being named?

That's what I'm trying to... The city attorney just said it's not about that. He says you either follow the rule or you don't.

Well, that's what I'm... Well, it's not... He says it applies.

He did say it applies.

The resolution applies regardless.

or we wouldn't have been setting it aside so I think following what a 7-0 council majority you know Eric Peterson and all they passed this they put these safeguards in place it's reasonable it gives the community an opportunity to provide some input and we get the input from the historical resource board I think it's reasonable and I think not doing it that way it's not not technical and we should be technical sometimes right we should dot our i's and cross our t's because when we move quickly you know we make mistakes it's half hazard and so let's just follow the process I guess what I'm saying is the committee will have input because a draft will come back before council and they'll have comments it'll be posted on the agenda

let's say hey we want to make changes live input through the historic resources board we're going to be talking to love input through our parks commissioners and i think it's totally appropriate i mean this is the h on that we thought would be fun and be great i mean i think we should follow the rules i think it's disrespectful to the rules if you want to cut past it substitute substitute motion that i made if we don't get a second then we'll vote on your motion

Where are we? I'm trying to figure this out here. So this is getting reviewed by the Historic Resources Board and Library and Parks Commission?

Yeah, to provide input simultaneously while we're all working on this together.

Okay. In an agendized way or in an informal way?

I would imagine through an informal way, just with talking with them.

It's just going to be a phone call, text message, okay.

Meetings, I mean, what's wrong with that?

Because the rules say that it's supposed to go back to them, and it would be agendized. There would be minutes.

There would be public input. That'll happen at a council meeting.

Instead of three council members deciding for everyone else while we're all in the dark.

It won't, though, because we'll contact

historic resources board it's coming back for council but can can those boards give input outside of a meeting otherwise it would violate the brown act or not i could talk to no you can't get well you can't get a majority i can't get a majority but i can talk to a couple individuals and i was just follow the rules we could have everyone involved i was on the community services and library commission i was on a ad hoc committee for a naming of a park and technically we're supposed to go and have the ad hoc committee and then we go recommendation to the community and library services. If we were going to name it, But this is just dialogue on what's going to go on in the plaque.

This is the same exact process that the MAGA plaque went through.

Everything's got to be your way, though. You don't see any other way.

It's the city council's way.

That clearly states it.

I just want to make sure that if they're communicating that we're not violating the Brown Act. So if it goes through them, then it has to be in some sort of a formal setting from what I'm understanding.

Correct. If they're going to take action on the item... Shannon, could we slide to the bottom of that resolution? More than three are going to act.

It has to be... We're all on board for it, so let's just put it through the commissions.

I mean, let's just... Slide down a little bit. I'm sorry. Yeah, a little bit more. I'm sorry. Up. I'm going for... And so this isn't my way, you know, with all due respect, Councilman Burns. This is something that passed through previous council in 2017. It was a 7-0 vote.

They also bought the Elon.

This is Eric Peterson that was on that council, 7-0. There you go. There's all the I's.

Did the Charlie Kirk mural go through the thing when we voted on it? Should that have gone through it? The Charlie Kirk that we voted on? That one fell through because of funding. No, but did it go, was it going to go through all the boards and everything? I don't recall you said it wasn't going to go to any of those. You were going to design it and we were going to fund it. So are we talking about the Charlie Kirk thing right now on the agenda? I'm just asking a question. I forgot. I remember you pushed that thing and we voted on it.

No, I mean, you asked me a question and you interrupted me or what? Don's got the floor.

No, so I can't recall when you brought the Kirk.

I can't recall either, to be honest with you. Well, I don't think it did. Whether there was a set-aside or not. I don't believe that there was a set-aside on that.

I think if we wouldn't have said anything about setting aside this, it would have been voted on. You probably didn't know about resolution. I didn't know about 2017-25. I think our city manager brought it up, so if it wasn't brought up, maybe he would have brought it up.

I didn't realize it was such an inconvenient rule for you guys. I just want to follow the rules. You guys don't have to follow the rules. You could vote to set it aside.

All right, so there's a substitute, substitute motion on the floor.

Second on substitute, substitute.

So motion is seconded by Burns.

Can you outline that, please?

Yes, we are going to, council will work with staff on a template. We will consult with the Historic Resources Board. I will consult with my community library and services commissioner on input simultaneously. Then a draft will be brought back at the August 18th meeting for review, amendments, tweaks, changes, whatever. And then from that step, we can either vote on it then or make changes and bring it back.

Yeah, I mean, we can allow Chaz, community library service person, I mean.

Yep.

Please call. So I didn't hear a set-aside in there. There's no set-aside. That's good.

No set-aside. Set-aside resolution number 2017-25. Thank you.

So either way, the final's going to be, the draft will come to us for approval. If that doesn't work out, it'll come back for modification. And then the final would still have to come through council.

Correct.

The three of you guys are not just going to sit there and say, hey, this is what we want.

That's correct.

And the public will have input. They'll see it before it comes to the council.

It'll be agendized. It'll be brought back for council, public comments, requested changes.

So the public will have the opportunity to comment on the night that it gets voted on. The draft.

The draft, yep.

It's a final draft. That's the way that was written in this.

set aside okay my substitute substitute motion is set aside resolution number 2017-25 and direct staff to create the engraving template for review by council members candy burns and mckeon with input from the historic resources board with input from the community library services with a draft brought forward for vote and review on the august 18 city council meeting for the monument pier plaza to commemorate the american beach huntington beach america 250 celebrations

Councilman Grohl?

No, I just think we should just get to the point where all of us agree, just not set aside the resolution. Everybody will be on board, and then it's good to go.

Councilman Kennedy?

Yes.

Mayor Pro Tem Twiney?

Yes.

Mayor McKeon? Yes. Councilman Burns?

Aye.

Councilwoman Vandermark? Yes. Councilman Williams?

No.

Item passes 5-2.

So before we adjourn, I just want to honor and remember previous mayor, Joseph Joe Carcio, who passed away recently. Joe Carcio was known to so many simply as Jersey Joe. and he dedicated his life to service, whether in uniform, in business, on the battlefield, or in City Hall. And he believed that communities become stronger when people step forward to give back. Joe's journey began in New Jersey, where he developed the values that would define his life. His service to the United States Army instilled a sense of duty and leadership that remained with him for decades. After making Huntington Beach his home in 1979, Joe became much more than a successful businessman. Through Bella Luna and Jersey Joe's Restaurant and Deli, he built gathering places where friendships were formed, stories were shared, and neighbors became family. One of Joe's greatest passions was for investing in young people. For 15 years as a varsity baseball coach and 10 years as a football coach at Ocean View High School, he taught lessons that extended far beyond the school board discipline teamwork, perseverance, and character. Those who knew Joe often say he never met a stranger. He had a remarkable ability to make people feel welcome, valued, and heard. And that genuine connection with people became one of his greatest strengths as a public service. Joe carried that same people-first approach in the public office. After being elected to the city council in 2006 and serving as mayor in 2011, he led with accessibility, common sense, and a deep love for Huntington Beach. While he was mayor, he celebrated the HB Little League winning the World Series and presented the key to the city to surfer Kelly Slater. I know that was one of his proudest moments. He understood that thriving local businesses are the heart of a strong community. His creation of the Surf City Savings Program reflected his commitment to supporting local entrepreneurs and strengthening our local economy. Even after leaving elected office, Joe never stopped serving. He remained engaged as a legislative liaison, mentor, advocate, and trusted friend of so many in our community. Joe's legacy cannot be measured only by the offices he's held or the policies he championed. It is found in the lives he touched, the young athletes he coached, the businesses he supported, the colleagues he mentored, and the residents who knew they always had someone to listen to. On behalf of the City of Huntington Beach and our City of Huntington Beach City Council, it is our privilege to present the Celebration of Life Accommodation and Recognition of Joe's Decade, which we're going to, I think it's in August, right? Yeah, so we're going to give a nice commendation for Joe to honor his life and recognition of Joe's decades of dedicated service and his lasting contributions to Serve City USA. So to Joe's families, we extend our deepest condolences and our sincere gratitude for sharing him with this community for so many years. Joe often led with energy, optimism, and unwavering belief that public service is about people first. And his example reminds us that leadership is measured not only by what we accomplish, but by how we treat others. So we may honor his memory by continuing to serve our community with the same generosity and humility and love that defined Joe Cargill's remarkable life. Thanks, Joe. Do I have a motion to adjourn?

Motion. Second.

Meeting adjourned.

Thank you.