Township Council - Regular Meeting

Call to order. Opening statement please.

The agenda is complete to the extent known. At the time of posting is subject to change pursuant to NJSA 10 colon 4 dash 8D. Any inquiries should be directed to the Township Clerk. This meeting is being held in accordance with the provisions of the Open Public Meetings Act. Adequate notice of this meeting has been advertised in the manner prescribed by law. This agenda is complete to the extent known and formal action will be taken. Call. Councilman Nadeau?

Here.

Councilman Rebelle?

Here.

Councilwoman O'Donnell? Here. Councilwoman Fisher is absent tonight. And Mayor Leggio?

Here. Mr. Gross, is there a reason to go into executive session?

Yes, there is.

Motion. Second.

Our fearless leader, our clerk tonight, so you have to bear with me as I take us through the agenda, as well as for our public comment tonight. We don't have our clock, so I will be timing you, so I'll give you warnings if you're approaching your time limit. Let's start with the pledge.

Please rise. Your allegiance and a moment of silence, please.

First up on the agenda is acceptance of minutes of previous meetings. We have the June 9th, 2026 regular meeting and executive session meeting minutes.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Now, reports from township officials. Nothing from legal.

Just a few announcements. We have our 4th of July celebration coming up on July 2nd. We're looking forward to a great turnout from the community. On that night, we're going to be dedicating the roadway at Soldier Field as Sean Acker Boulevard, in memory of who passed away this year, our resident. We hope that a lot of people will come out for that as well. On the 4th of July, the Township of Howe will have a float in the Monmouth 250 in Middletown, celebration in Middletown. At our July 14th meeting, we will be recognizing township employee retirees, certainly in the last year or so. So we're looking forward to that as well. In the August meeting, we'll have police promotions. And on August 21st, we're going to have the naming of our football field as the Arthur Stanton Football Field out on Old Tavern Road. So we've got a lot of exciting things going on. Looking forward to the summer. And I'll just mention we're township employees now. We are now on summer hours. And what that means to you, the public, is that many of our offices have expanded hours. either mostly in the morning there may be one that is a little bit later in the afternoon but we will be no reduced hours for the summer schedule and like I said many of the departments have expanded hours that's it all right after hearing of citizens and public comments on consent agenda items in general matters each person shall give their name and address

To the clerk, the council should be addressed as a collective body and not as individual members. Each person shall have one turn to address the council and comments shall not exceed a total of five minutes. Speakers shall be notified when their time has run and no time extensions shall be permitted.

Was there a sheet up there? All right, so that's no big deal. Ladies first. Who would like to start?

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AMERICAN SIDE APARTMENTS, ANGELA MORONEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOARD OF EDUCATION MEMBERS, RESIDENTS. ACCORDING TO RECENT STUDIES NEARLY 60% OF EMPLOYERS SAY YOUNG PEOPLE LACK THE SKILLS NEEDED TO SUCCEED IN TODAY'S WORKFORCE. It's a gap that communities like ours have the power to close. My name again is Angela Moroney, and tonight I would like to introduce a new community initiative called Teens Work How. Teens Work How was created with a simple goal, helping local teenagers connect with opportunities to learn, work, volunteer, shadow professionals, and explore future careers. As a parent of three children who attended Howell schools, I believe preparing young people for adulthood is one of the most important investments we can make as a community. Over the past several weeks, I have spoken with business owners, workforce development representatives, and community leaders throughout Howell and Monmouth County. The response has been overwhelmingly positive. Earlier today, I attended a Howell Chamber of Commerce meeting where local business owners expressed interest in supporting young people through mentorship, career shadowing, workforce readiness education, and employment opportunities. I spoke with professionals from health care, law, retail, and the skilled trades. What I heard repeatedly was that businesses want to help young people succeed and that many teens are looking for opportunities to gain experience and build confidence. Too often we hear about what teenagers are doing wrong. Teens work how focuses on what they can do right. It gives young people the opportunity to build responsibility, learn workplace skills, explore careers, and become active members of the community. I believe Howell's future depends on investing in our youth today. The questions we ask and the opportunities we create will shape the Howell our children inherit tomorrow. I'm excited to continue building Teens Work Howell and working with local businesses, schools, community organizations, parents and residents, who want to support our youth, and thank you for your time supporting the future of Howell. I have started a Facebook page, and I have an email for Teens Work Howell. I also want to thank the township for fixing the pothole on West Farms Road. It was there for a very long time. It got very deep, and I opened my eyes one day, and it was gone. So I want to thank the town for that as well. Thank you again.

Paula?

Good evening, Mayor, Council, and professionals. I have a question about zoning that might not be anyone's forte here tonight, but I was not about to ask at last night's zoning meeting due to the way that one of our long-upstanding citizens was treated by one of the professionals at the meeting. I was there to hear about the change of use from a warehouse to a manufacturing facility for plastic bottles and containers. From what I've gathered, the warehouse was approved for construction by a different applicant slash owner than the owners that are looking to build a manufacturing facility for, as I mentioned, the production of plastic bottles and containers. So here's my question. If the original owner was the one that got the approval for the warehousing and you have a different owner that is going to be doing the manufacturing, setting up the manufacturing of the plastic bottles and containers, do they piggyback off of the previous approved variants? Not to mention that the warehouse has totally different environmental issues that need to be considered and do they need to be, in fact, reapplied. In addition, because there's an enormous amount of forest that will be cleared, including the federally endangered northern long-eared bat, They're cute little things, despite being a bat. But I called the New Jersey Fish and Wildlife to see if permission was needed to destroy the habitat of an endangered species. They confirmed that it was, and that there were restrictions that the trees could not be cut down during the nesting season, which from October through April. So that's the plan that I guess the manufacturer will be adhering to. Could you imagine going on vacation and coming home and your home is gone? I know they call that progress, or I guess we could say it's eminent domain for wildlife. if anyone is concerned about the air quality our drinking water which the ardena brook is close by and is already polluted that runs into the manasquan river basin where we get a majority of our drinking water from that's real comforting also if your children attend the ardena elementary school that is also close by the next zoning meeting is scheduled i believe for july 13th hopefully they'll let the public speak they were not going to last night but our joe b managed to get a word in or two edgewise thanks joe and thank you mayor and town council for listening to our concerns and your transparency and i wanted to find out is there some way that i could get in touch with the environmental commission we still have an environmental commission right in howell um because i'd like to get their take on that on what they feel about this plastic um bottle manufacturer coming in to our uh to our community. Um, I spoke with them, some of them last night and said, Why don't you just go up to Linden or Elizabeth? You know, the air, everything is polluted up there already. Why come here and and pollute our our our community? So that's it. Thank you so much.

Good evening, Council. Sharon Pressy, 9 Willow Avenue. I would like to know who authorized the removal of the geese from Lake Louise, which is illegal. What gives you or anyone the right to come to our lake yes our lake we pay taxes for the whole town which includes the lakes we all know what happened to these geese i have lived by the lake for 65 years and the geese were there before i was they never bothered anyone Yes, they make a mess, but look around and at this town and this is a mess. It's this way. Excuse me. Is that the way you operate? One person complains and the geese are gone. No one in my neighborhood complained. So if someone doesn't like what you are doing, you could go to. Also, the timing was cruel. The geese were molting and they can't fly. Really nice. Thank you.

Anyone else from the public?

Hello, Mayor, Council, and professionals. Joe Bozonos, Coalsack Road. How's everybody doing? Why is it so dark? Nice. Wasn't in the budget. Okay. Let's see. All right. So I wanted to follow up with a few items from the last meeting. I dropped a folder off to the town manager's office containing documents that I cited in the last council meeting. Many of the documents are ordinances passed by towns in New Jersey that successfully banned data centers. So I just wanted to drop those off to you. I just want to know if those have been received and looked through I know the township is hard at work implementing new budgets but I want to see if we can at least get like an introduction of an ordinance for that going in the near future maybe within the next couple meetings I think it would be really valuable for the town to get ahead of that like I said I don't want to beat a dead horse but I think it's just a net positive for us I also propose the creation of the Landlord Tenant Advisory Committee meant to absorb aspects of our mobile home rental control board with offering additional tools to our rental community. I'd like to know your thoughts on implementing that and if it's something that would be worth it for us as a town. Over the last few weeks, I've spent some time researching additional boards that might benefit the town. I'm very interested in the idea of forming a local ethics board. Each municipality of the state may, by ordinance, establish a municipal ethics board consisting of six members who are residents of the municipality, at least two of whom shall be public members, which I like. The members shall be chosen by virtue of their known and consistent reputation for integrity and their knowledge of local government affairs. No more than three members of the ethics board shall be of the same political party, which I also like. To summarize, this board will have the responsibility of investigating ethical complaints and determining if a violation occurred. I have the printout for the town manager detailing the rest of the powers and bylaws. I believe citizens should have a more active role in local government. And boards like this one and others I've proposed help to achieve this goal while decreasing the workload for elected officials and professionals. We also need to have some safeguards in place to discourage bad players from entering local office in the first place or seeking town employment. Which brings me to my last point. I attended the zoning board meeting last night. One of the cases involved a gentleman named Bernie. I got to speak with him today. He's a longtime Howell resident. He's a business owner and an active member of the community. I encourage everyone to watch the entire case, which is on or will be on the Howell Township YouTube channel. To summarize, Bernie purchased a property in town, inherited some problems due to the previous owner's actions. He went before the board to try to make it right. What, in my opinion, should have been a 20-minute hearing went on for an hour and a half. During this time, two of the town's professionals acted in a manner that I deem completely unprofessional, one of them more than the other. From my perspective, she spoke down to Bernie and the team he brought to defend him, spoke to the zoning board in a way a judge might call leading the witness, and her huffing, puffing, and eye-rolling is something I've noticed at multiple meetings. As I said last night to the zoning board, with all the questionable projects we've seen approved and how all the fact that a valued member of the community was put through the wringer for trying to do the right thing, it was frankly infuriating. And I got up there and told them so. I urge the council to look into this matter and exercise caution when hiring professionals in the future. I want to see this town grow. I love it here, and I want people to stop moving out. I want generations to stay, raise their families here, and I still think you guys are the ones to help us get that started. I do appreciate you guys, and see you next time. Thank you.

Betty Velez-Gimbel, 97 Victory Road.

Good evening, everyone.

I know that what I'm about to talk about tonight I mentioned briefly to Mr. Gross, but I do want to begin moving forward on this. Mayor and Council, tonight I am asking you to take a practical but forward-thinking step. Direct our grant writer to actively pursue funding for a state-of-the-art splash park for Howell Township and include this project as a priority in our master plan. Howell is one of the largest municipalities in Monmouth County by land area, with more than 54,000 residents across approximately 61 square miles. We have a growing need for accessible, family-focused recreation close to home. A splash park is a quality of life investment. It provides safe recreation for children, encourages outdoor activity, offers relief during increasingly hot summers, and keeps recreation dollars local. We should first fully explore outside funding sources before even considering local tax dollars. Opportunities include New Jersey Green Acres grants, Monmouth County open space and recreation funding, community development block grants, state recreation programs, federal infrastructure funding, and private foundations. That is why I'm asking that our grant writer begin immediately identifying and pursuing available grants. This project should also be included in the master plan, so Howell is positioned to act when funding becomes available. Just as importantly, this should be an inclusive and universally accessible facility. In Monmouth County, approximately one in 41 children is identified with autism spectrum disorder. along with many others living with physical, sensory, developmental, and cognitive disabilities. These residents deserve recreation spaces designed with accessibility in mind. A properly designed splash park can provide a fenced, supervised environment that supports safer recreation for all children. With ADA compliant features, sensory friendly areas, shaded quiet zones, accessible surfaces, and adaptive equipment, it can become a facility that serves the entire community. Nearby communities including Freehold Township, Manalapan Township, Toms River and Jackson Township have already made these investments because they are heavily used and successful public amenities. The question is not whether Howell can benefit from a splash park, it is whether we choose to move forward and secure the funding to make it happen. Tonight, I ask council to take the first step, direct our grant writer to begin identifying funding opportunities, include a splash park in the master plan, and begin a public planning process. Ideally, I would like to see how we'll plan for two splash parks in the long term to serve different areas of our large township. But I fully recognize we should start with one and build from there responsibly. Let's move forward with a project that strengthens quality of life, supports families, and invests in Howell's future. Our community deserves that vision. Thank you.

Anyone else from the public?

Zachary Doerner, 25 Southport Drive. Good evening, Mayor, Council, fellow residents. It's me again. I just want to come out and say I support Ordinance O2615. As a member of multiple environmental committees on this town, I've researched how failing septic systems can pollute our groundwater and lakes. Across the entire country, about 20% of septic systems fail. And when they do, harmful bacteria and chemicals leak out. This causes green algae growth in lakes that hurt fish, wildlife, and our drinking water. This ordinance helps by requiring good soil testing as state rules for small lots under 40,000 square feet. It also drives sewer lines so we can connect to public sewers later. This protects our health and environment without big costs right now. This is Smart Planning for a Healthy Future, and I urge the council to adopt it tonight. Thank you.

Anyone else from the public? I'm seeing none. I have a motion to close public. Motion to close. Second. All in favor? Sorry. You want to start?

For Ms. Samarell's comment, Just want to advise if council shouldn't comment on any pending applications in front of the zoning board, but just in general for some of your questions, zoning approvals are typically tied to the property, not the specific applicant. You'll see it's pretty common where somebody will get approvals and then they wind up selling the rights to the development or something like that, but the approvals are typically tied to the actual piece of property and they run with the property. We'll get you information to get you in touch with the Environmental Commission. I think I'll let you handle most of them.

In reference to Ms. Pressy's comments, we're certainly acutely aware and concerned about the issues surrounding the people that are having problems with geese in our parks as well as protection of geese. within the parks and it is a it's an issue that there's there are concerns on both sides and we're acutely aware of that as far as who's responsible I'm the town manager as town manager I'm responsible for every activity that goes on I can tell you that it is not anticipated that that these this contract will be renewed any further and we are meeting with representative from the Sorry, I'll get you the name of the organization. I'm sorry, Wildlife Mitigation Team, Animal Protection League of New Jersey, who have volunteered, graciously volunteered to come and give us a hand with alternatives in order to help protect our parks and the people enjoying the parks. from some of the problems that come from having a lot of geese in the park. So we certainly understand the concerns and are sensitive to that, and we'll certainly be keeping them in mind and moving forward. In reference to the information that Mr. Bisnot, I'm sorry, Bisnot, I'm having trouble talking tonight, I apologize. Joe had put some folders off to the council and to myself. We actually are going through those and I've had a couple conversations with some members of the council about how to analyze what to move forward on, what we already have some components of it. So we'll certainly be getting back to you on that. In reference to The splash park, we did have that conversation, and it is certainly something I think the council can consider funding through its open space fund in addition to whatever grants are available. So usually with most grants, there's a portion that we have to pay, and so we would have funding through that if necessary. The planning portion of that, I think, is rather significant, and that's something that we may want to consider moving forward sooner rather than later. I think that's it.

Yeah, just one quick thing. I'm just going to touch on one of the topics Mr. Bizonis brought up for the rent advocacy board. I think that's definitely something that we need, especially for our mobile home parks. We saw a few months ago where mobile home park residents came out and just telling us all the troubles that they face with some of the park owners not doing what they should be doing. So being that the state is going to be taking over the rent control, that was almost the place where they sought advocacy in order to get the rent increases. But being that that's not going to be under municipal control, they definitely need some kind of advocacy. So I would definitely be in favor of pivoting if we dissolve that mobile home rent control board, create a rental advisory board. Mike?

Yeah, just to follow up on the data centers again, we have a planner looking at this actively. They're going through all of our ordinances to interpret if there are any existing use classifications that, for lack of a better term, could shoehorn a data center into so that we can ban them. If there isn't, then it's already banned. If it's not an acceptable use, they're it would have to go through the zoning board. There's no, there's no action, but we're making sure that we scrub through all of ordinances and ensure that there's no classifications for it to fall.

Just in terms of the rent stabilization, I'm still very happy to serve on the mobile home park stabilization committee. I think it's, I do like the idea of keeping that in itself sort of tight because I think that if the people that serve on that committee are members of that specific town, obviously you see things that may be less global to others. But it's well needed, absolutely. I was astonished at one of the meetings, what was served as proofs. for the group to consider for a rate increase. So I see a definite need. And my personal opinion, I'll keep out of it. But there's certainly a need is absolute. And something else had come to my attention today, somebody that lives close to one of the lakes, and although I realize they're animals, and I love animals too, but I do want to say that this person had said to me that their family was concerned because people feed the geese, which draw the geese into their particular lake or pond, and they're concerned because their children don't have the opportunity to go to that pond or that lake and utilize it in the summertime like they used to do as it was told to me so although some people enjoy the geese some people are sympathetic toward the geese there's a lot of facets and opinions on both but um feeding the geese will encourage them to stay remain and return uh year after year actually month after month because no longer do the geese leave us you know the environment is warmer so Canadian geese just stay with us we're lucky they stay with us all year so you know there's a lot of facets to the geese so I just mentioned feeding the geese so if if the problem exists that you don't like the geese coming to your water then feeding the geese will only help the geese to return continuously so it's just another facet to think of everyone has a different stand on it and a different thought process and it means something different to everybody depending on the age of probably your children your grandchildren and what they're doing outside you know what playground they use or what how they come across this particular program this scenario so working on the issue trying to make everyone happy is going to be very, very difficult. But the geese are here to stay, for sure, because they no longer migrate. So that's the way that's going to stay, I'm sure, because the environment, I'm sure, is not going to get seasonal as it used to be. So there we are. Again, invite everybody to come out to the 4th of July event that we're having. As always, Hal Township and Steve Fetcher goes... 110% to make sure that the program is outstanding. Everybody has a good time. The road that's going, or the boulevard, or the way, the road, the drive that's going to be offered to Sean, I think will be at 545. So if you want to see that particular part of the program, please be sure to be there. 645.

I'm sorry, 645.

So if you wanted to see that particular program, you know, to be sure to be there and plenty of time to see it. I'm sure it's going to be lovely. So as always, everyone's invited, families. And typically we get neighboring towns that come to our events because we're pretty good. So that's something that we're all very proud of. Thank you.

Angela, if you could maybe make contact with our township manager. And if there's something that the town could do to get involved with this in coordination with the Chamber of Commerce, maybe. Yeah.

And I'd like to offer it all in Monmouth County and all over New Jersey. I'd love some New Jersey to be known for the state. You know, we do have the best food, but I can turn it down to keep the jobs or opportunities. And I really have a lot I can do in the business plan, and I think it's going to work for us.

Well, like I said, we're concerned with the Howell Township. That's all we control. Right.

So... Yeah, I want to start here.

Yeah, just reach out to Mr. Gross with an email. And if there's a meeting that you need one or two of us to sit in on with Mr. Gross, I'm sure... we can make that happen. Joe B., Mr. Rebell answered your question about the data centers and with the advisory committee, I'm in support of that for the rentals. Not sure how much teeth it's going to have with the state controlling ultimately what it does, but it's better for the residents to have some kind of voice. Betty Gimbel, You know, master plan would definitely have to be updated for splash parks, and the grant writing sounds great, but, you know, ultimately the cost and also, you know, getting our DPW on board with this, because this would trigger, obviously, you know, more manpower. what's called possible overtime and you know when the parks will be open i know it's seasonal be like a pool club kind of thing probably from memorial day to labor day i would say it's probably the months it would be open uh sounds like a you know great idea and we do have some spots i would think in town that could support at least one of them you know one of our larger parks so we'll definitely look into this betty no problem zachary thanks for coming to the meeting buddy A couple of the comments I'll keep to myself. I know we can't make everybody happy. I wish we could and it would be a perfect world, but that's not where we live. We're going to move on to consent and agenda items. All matters on the consent and agenda items are considered routine by the Township Council and enacted by one motion. Therefore, if there's anyone who would like to separate anything... Please now. If not, I would. Oh, you would?

Yeah. Could we pull out the recycling motion?

Pull it out?

Yeah, I'd like to vote on that separately. Okay.

Which one is that?

It's just what I was looking for. 218. 218. 218, yeah. All right.

You need to make a motion for the other one, too? Motion to approve resolutions R26203 through and including R26219 with the exception of 218.

Second.

Councilman Nadell? Yes. Councilman Rubell?

Yes.

Councilman O'Donnell? Yes. Mayor Leggio?

Yes.

Consent agenda passes.

And the other resolution? Motion to adopt R26218. Second.

Is there a discussion on the topic? Yes, there is for me. I'd like to table it because I'd just like to have some more information. I was introduced to the process on Monday, and I just don't feel like I've had enough time to digest all of the information properly.

The only thing I'll mention in terms of this process is that we went out for bids, and we are past our deadlines for that. They have extended it. If we extend it any further, there will likely be an increase. I don't know what the increase will be.

For our current recycling program.

For our current recycling program. we are past the contract we already and they've agreed to date to extend if we go further in if we go into July they will they they're going to come back to tell us you know that they have charges more I mean we're past the contract that we presently are involved in correct our contract expire our contract expired 1231 of last year, and we negotiated a month-to-month extension, which they've informed me just this month that this is the last month they'll be able to honor that.

I understand. Thank you.

Well, listen, I sat in on the meeting. The professional and yourself, Mr. Gross, answered all the questions. Ian was in on the same meeting as Evelyn and Mike and I sat together. We asked all the questions. This should have been probably brought up before tonight.

Me personally, I'm clear.

I think the rewards outweigh the risks and I'm prepared to vote on it. How about you, Ian? I'll vote on it. I'm not making a motion to table it.

If there's no motion to table, then I need a motion to vote on it. I think the motion's on the floor, correct?

I second it, yeah.

All right, so Councilman Nadeau?

Yes.

Councilman Rubell?

Yes.

Councilwoman O'Donnell? I abstain. Mayor Leggio?

Yes. All right, I'll tell unfinished business. Public hearing adoption of ordinance O-26-15.

An ordinance of the Township of Howell amending chapter 188 land use article 4 standards of performance section 188-24 of the revised general ordinances of the Township of Howell. This is our public hearing on the adoption of this ordinance. So if there's any comments, please come on up. Seeing none. Public comment is closed. Now for the vote. Councilman Nadal.

In a motion.

Motion for the vote.

Motion to adopt Ordinance 2515. Second.

Councilman Nadeau?

Yes.

Councilman Rubell?

Yes.

Councilwoman O'Donnell? Yes. Mayor Leggio?

Yes.

Ordinance passes.

On to O-26-16? Yes.

This is the update to the agenda tonight. Extra copies of the ordinance were provided. This is an ordinance amending numerous penalty provisions of the revised general ordinances of the Township of Howell to authorize per day fines for continuing ordinance violations.

Motion for introduction? I'll make a motion to introduce that ordinance.

John or Caitlin, did you want to describe this one to everyone? Because there's been a lot of talk about code infractions and where does everything go? And this moves towards adding teeth to the entire process that, you know, again, we've been listening. We hear you. So, yeah, I'll take this one. I won't take away your thunder.

So previously, Code and Municipal Court were able to tack on daily violations for continuing ordinance violations. There was a case that came out a couple of years ago that came down which curtailed Code and Municipal Courts from either doing the per day violations or in essence increasing the fines to be over two thousand dollars because the the general municipal law allows ordinance violations penalties to range anywhere from a hundred dollars up to two thousand dollars so a court had viewed that provision as any violations, continuing violations were also capped at that $2,000 threshold. Recently a case went up to the appellate division where that was overturned and the court said that That doesn't make sense if there's a continuing violation. Each day is a new violation. So we are updating our codes to reflect that and to make clear that if there is a continuing violation after you've received notices, after you've received summonses, you are at risk to get daily penalties or daily violations for these ordinance provisions.

In absentia as well, did you mention that?

And throughout our process in municipal court, it has become abundantly clear that our hands have been a little bit shackled when it comes to terms of LLCs and appearances in court. You know, it's difficult to issue any sort of warrant to a company. So we are now planning on moving forward with attempting trials in absentia. So if LLCs are ignoring our summonses, our court notices, we will be trying cases in absentia and looking for... penalties and fines related to those infractions and again our main goal in all of this is compliance with our current goals and our ordinances. It's not to get monetary penalties but to really enforce the rules that are on our books.

Again, this is also tied to Resolution 26-219 with the special council for them to come in, and they're going to handle this for us. And if it needs to go to the next level, to superior, which some of them may, may not, we are trying to do our best to keep Howell a beautiful place and a well-managed place. All right? That's the goal. All right. Can we vote on this, please? Yep.

Councilman Nadeau?

Yes.

Councilman Morabelle?

Yes.

Councilwoman O'Donnell? Yes. Mayor Leggio?

Yes.

The ordinance is introduced.

All right. Seeing no further business, our next meeting will take place on July 14th, I believe, right? Yep. Yes. July 14th. Executive is at 6. Regular session is at 7. Okay. like we've said before, if you could attend our July 2nd, 250th anniversary kickoff to the summer, you know, you and your families, you know, with the concert and the fireworks and the food trucks and everything else that goes with it, it's something that should be, you know, very well, you know, attended and it's a kickoff like we do every summer and we have the band coming and this dedication to our, our Mr. Uh, our late friend, Sean Acker, who's no longer with us. So I'm seeing no further business. Motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. Second.