Council Meeting - Special Meeting

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HAPPY LAY DEA. FRIDAY PAY MAY . 10:40 A.M. BUDGET CAN CO COME TO ORDER. BUDGET COME TO ORDER. PRESENT VICE CHAIR NISHIMOTO, COUNCILMEMBERS CORDERO, KIA'AINA,EL TULBA, AND COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS. ALSO JOINING US AND WELCOME TODAY COUNCILMEMBERS TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM, AND TUPOLA. THIS IS NOT A REMOTE MEETING. HAWAII REVISED STATUTES 92-3.7. THEREFORE, MEETING WILL CONTINUE NOTWITHSTANDING LOSS OF AUDIO-VIDEO COMMUNICATION WITH REMOTE TESTIFIERS OR LOSS OF PUBLIC BROADCAST OF THE MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL ARE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY ON ALL I'MS ON ITEMS AGENDA TWO WAYS MUCH IN PERSON COUNCIL CHAMBER AND, REMOTELY VIA CONFERENCE OR PHONE. REMOTE AND IN PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY WILL BE ALLOWED WHEN EACH AGENDA ITEM IS TAKEN U. BEFORE TESTIFYING, EACH PERSON SHALL STATE THEIR NAME. EACH SPEAKER MAY NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE READ THEIR STATEMENT LIMITED TO DO A ONE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON EACH ITEMMENT AS BOTH ENGLISH AND HAWAIIAN ARE OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THE STATE OF HAWAII, PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 15, SECTION 4 OF THE HAWAII STATE CONSTITUTION, AND SECTION 1-13 OF THE HAWAII REVISED STATUTES, MEMBERS PUBLIC MAY TESTIFY IN EITHER BLANLANGUAGE. FOR ORAL TESTIMONIES SAFED IN OLELO HAWAII, ADDITIONAL TIME AS MAY BE NECESSARY WILL BE ALLOWED FOR THE TESTIFIER TO PROVIDE ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THEIR TESTIMONY. ALL PERSONS REGISTERED TO TESTIFY IN PERSON WILL BE CALLED UPON FIRST. WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED PLEASE COME UP TO TESTIFIER PODIUM. PERSON IS NOT REGISTERED WILL BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY FOLLOWING REGISTER TESTIFIERS. AFTER IN-PERSON TESTIMONY HAS CON COLCON-CON COLLUDED REMOTE TESTIMONY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE OR PHONE.

CONCLUDE. MONITOR YOUR SCREEN AND FOLLOW THE PROMPTS TO UNMUTE. FOR THOSE JOINING US BY TELEPHONE ONLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR 9 IF YOU WISH TO TESTIFY. AND I WILL IDENTIFY BY THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER. WHEN YOUR U NUMBER IS CALLED PLEASE LISTEN FOR PROMPTS TO UNMUTE AND PRESS STAR 9. FRIENDLY REMINDERS AND TIPS, VIDEO CONFERENCE FROM A QUIET LOCATION IF POSSIBLE. IF YOU ARE ALSO WATCHING PROCEEDINGS ON OLELO, PLEASE MUTE YOUR TELEVISION AT THE TIME YOU ARE CALLED TO TESTIFY. WHEN THE TIMER ON SCREEN REACHES ZERO, PLEASE CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS PROMPTLY. WRITTEN TESTIMONIES INCLUDING TESTIFIER'S ADDRESS, EMAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC AS DESCRIBED ON THE POSTED AGENDA. AS A COURTESY PLEASE TURN OFF OR SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THIS MEETING. MEMBERS I PLAN TO BREAK FOR UP WILL TODAY. START TIME DURATION WILL BE DPEEMENT FLOW OF MEETING. DEPENDENT. , BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. I WANT TO BRIEF MOMENT, SORRY. LIKE TO ALSO WELCOME TO THE CHAMBER COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO THANK MY ST STAFF. MY COLLEAGUES CITING HERE WITH US TODAY, OFFICE OF COUNCIL SERVICE, CITY CLASHINGS OFFICERS, AND CLERK'S OFFICE COUNCIL SUPPORT SERVICE OFFICE FORD HARD ROCK PREPARING FOR THIS IMPORTANT HEARING. HARD WORK. DELIVERING SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF OAHU, IN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL WHERE REVENUES ARE FLAT. COSTS ARE EXPECTED TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY. PROPOSED BUDGET BEFORE YOU IS ABOUT BUILDING A MORE TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE AND INTENTIONAL CITY GOVERNMENT. NARE BLANGIARDI SUBMITTED PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE COUNCIL BACK IN MARCH AND THE COMMITTEE RESPECTS WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT PROPOSAL. HOWEVER, THIS COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL HAS INDEPENDENT RESPONSIBILITY TO HE REVIEW QUESTION ADJUST AND MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUDGET

BEFORE IT PASSED. COUNCIL OVER SIGHT IS NOT ON OBSTRUCTION. IT IS OVER SITE. ROLE OAHU RESIDENTS EXPECT THIS IT COUNCIL TO PERFORM OF THE FOR YEARS CITY BUDGET HAS LAPSED HUNDREDS MILLIONS TAXPAYOR DUGHTS BUDGET NOT ALWAYS SPENT. POSITIONS FUND BUT NOT AWESOME FILLED. ALWAYS FILLED. PROJECT LISTED BUT NOT DELIVERED ON TIME. AS BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIR, MY TEAM HACK FOR A MORE DIRECT DISCIPLINE AND ACCOUNTABLE PATH. LOOK FOR. GOAL IS SIMPLE. PROTECT SERVICES, PROTECT CIVIL SERVICE JOBS AND PROTECT WILPUBLIC A TRUST. FOCUSED MAINTAINING CORE CITY SERVICES WH KEEPING HONOLULU FINANCIALLY STRONG. PROTECTING HIGH BOND RATING. BUDGET AMENDMENTS WILL BE DISCUSSED THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY NOT WEAKEN CITY SERVICES. BUT THEY POSE A HARTER AND HONEST QUESTION, HARDER. TAXPAYOR DOLLARS BEING RESPONSIBLY USED IN A WAY THAT DELIVERS ACHIEVABLE LULTDS? ERUPT? RESULTS MONEY SET ASIDE BUT NOT SPENT, TAXPAYORS DESERVE TO KNOW WHY. POSITIONS FUND BUT REMAIN VACATION U V VACANT THOSE DOLLAS COULD BE BETTER ALIGNED WITH CORE CITY SERVICE. PEDAGOGIES ARE LISTED BUT DELAYED TAXPAYORS DESERVE TIMELINES STRONGER PLANNING AND BETTER FOLLOW THROUGH. EVERY DOLLAR MUST HAVE A PUNPURPOSE AND EVERYBODY E'O PRA PLAN. MOVES CITY GOVERNMENT THAT RESIDENTS CAN SEE, UNDERSTAND AND TRUST. INTENTIONAL BUDGETS WE DO NOT REPEAT DONE OVER PAST YEARS. THIS COUNCIL CHAIRFULLY ANALYZING WHAT IS WORKING WHO IS NOT AND RESOURCES CAN BE USED MORE EFFECTIVELY. WORK DIRECT RECALL FAMILIES FACING EVERY DAY. SIT BUDGET MORE ACCURATELY IDENTIFY RESOURCE NOT BEING USED EFFECTIVELY APP DIRECT

THEM TOWARDS PRIORITIES RESIDENCE ACTUALLYEL FEEL. HOUSING TRANSPORTATION,EL INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND RISING COST OF LIVING. COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT TO RUSH STAMP A BUDGET. BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S FINAL BUDGET REFLECTS REAL NEEDS OF RESIDENTS A WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DELIVER TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE ADD E'O AND INTENTIONAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MEMBERS. I NOW CALL UPON DIRECTOR ANDY KAWANO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF IT BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. TO PROVIDE BRIEF OWING REMARKS ON BEHALF OF ADMINISTRATION. OPENING REMARKS. ACTUALLY, WELCOME TO THE CHAMBER DIRECT, MANAGING DIRECTOR FORMBY.

Testifier: THANK YOU BUDGET CHAIR. OKIMOTO. COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS, VICE CHAIR TUPOLA. AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBERS, MIKE FORMBY MANAGING DIRECTOR. FIRST I DO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK ON THE BUDGET. TODAY WE'RE HEAR IT TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. FOR CD2. WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND I WANT TO BASICALLY VERY HIGH LEVEL, DISCUSS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CD2. MORE SPECIFICALLY I'M LOOKING AT SECTION 13, PROPOSED NEW SUBSECTION CR. , AND THE LANGUAGE OF THAT. THSUBBING SECTION WHERE THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO PULL. SUBSECTION, PROVISIONAL FUNDS PUT THEM INTO ONE LARGE OMNIBUS PROVISIONALLING TOTOTAL$41 MILLION. LANGUAGE WE VIOLATES SEPARATION OF POWERS AND CHARTER. ZOO YOU SHOULD LOOK AT RCH RCH99-106.2, SUBSECTION A WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT EXECUTIVE AGENCIES OR AUTHORIZED TO MAKE EXPENDITURES UNDER THE EXECUTIVE OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE, MAY PROCEED WITHOUT OTHER AUTHORITY FROM THE COUNCIL TO INCOUNCIL COLIN RESERVATIONER MAKE EXPENDITURES FOR PROPER PURPOSES. INCUR. TO THE EXTENT MONEYS ARE AVAILABLE. CAN AND NEW SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION 1, YOU SAY THAT THESE PROVISIONAL FUNDS ARE FOR MAINTAINING GOVERNMENT O E'O ON OPERATION EXISTING LEVELS. THOSE OPERATIONS THAT EXISTING LEVEL ROOTS AUTHORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. ARE THE AUTHORITY, WITH WHO YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT THESE PROVISIONAL FUNDS, WHICH ALREADY WERE AT VERY SMALL MARGINS DUE TO THE REVENUE STREAM THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO

CITY & COUNTY THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, YOU HAVE PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ESSENTIAL EXISTING GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS VIA RESOLUTION PROCESS. THAT UNACCEACCEPTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION. BASICALLY INTERFEARS, LESS TRANSPARENT, NOT MORE TRANSPARENT.

WHEREAS PROVISIONAL ACCOUNTS USED TO BE ORGANIZED ACCORDING TO SUBJECT MATTER, FOR EXAMPLE, PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENTS, NOW IT'S IN ONE OMNIBUS $41 MILLION ACCOUNT WITH NO SUBCATEGORIES. THAT IS LESS TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC. WE OPPOSE LESS TRANSPARENT E'O TRANSPARENCY. REFLECTLY ASK THAT'S COUNCIL RECONSIDER THIS LARGE OMNIBUS 41 MI41 MILLION PROVISIONAL JUDGMENTS AN LAWSUIT DO NOT BLOCK IN THIS CAN T ACCOUNT. DISASTER EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RECOVERY GOT BRONCOSBONKIN THIS ACCOUNT. HAMPER OUR OPERATION. DO NOT BELONG. EASILY RESTRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT PRESERVICINGS TRANSPARENCY AROUND PRESERVES ABILITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO OPERATE GOVERNMENT AS IS OUR AUTHORITY UNDER CHARTER. I WILL ALLOW ANDREW KAWANO AS DIRECTOR OF BFS TO GET MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT AND WE ALSO HAVE CORPORATION COUNSEL HERE TODAY AND THEY CAN ADVISE YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS TO THE CONCERNS WE HAVE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED, AND IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON ADMINISTRATION. HE WENT R WANT TO AVOID AM I TYPE OF VETO. LAST SESSION DON'T WANT IT THIS SESSION. UNPRODUCTIVE. SO WE'RE HOPING BY WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL, ON THE CD1 2 AND IF NECESSARY, CD2, FD-1, WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WE CAN FUNCTION BEST. WE AGREE WITH THE PREMISES THAT YOU STATED IN OUR OPENING STATEMENT. BUDGET CHAIR. BUT I THINK THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. WITH THAT I'LL DEFER TO DIRECTOR ANDREW KAWANO. THANK YOU MANAGING DIRECTOR. ALOHA GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR KAWANO.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING BUDGET CHAIR OKIMOTO. COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS, HONORABLE COUNCILMEMBERS, ANDY KAWANO DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. YOU NOARNLINGS WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT EARLY IN MARCH, WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, WE SUBMIT THED ALREADY CONSTRAINED BUDGET. WE TALKED ABOUT FACT THAT NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT AFFORDABILITY WAS A BIG CONCERN. AND AS I MENTIONED, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT BRIEFINGS, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED SALARIES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS BASED ON WHAT LAPSES HAVE HAPPENED IN PRIOR YEARS. LOOKED AT THE TREND. WE LOOKED AT VACANCY TRENDS. IN TERMS OF FILLING POSITIONS. AS YOU MENTIONED. THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO US TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. TO FILL POSITIONS. QUESTION WE LOOKED DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT BASIS RETIREMENTS, AND THE NEED FOR LARGE VACANCY PAYOUT YOU. ALL FACTORS IN. VACATION PAYOUTS WHEN HE WITH DETERMINED ABOUT $30 MILLION OF SALARIES THAT WERE REALOE CADE TO HELP US BALANCE THE MAYOR'S BUDGET. REALLOCATED WITH REGARD TO, SALARIES, WE ALSO REMOVE AND REALLOCATE FRINGES TIED TO THE SALARIES. ANOTHER $20 MILLION. USED $50 MILLION OF SALARIES AND FRINGES TO HELP BALANCE THE BUDGET. CURRENT EXPENSES, ON DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT BASIS. STARTED WITH OUR BUDGET ANALYST. THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO PROVIDE SERVICES. THE MD REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL

BUDGET AMOUNTS IN LATE NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER. AND WE WENT THROUGH ANOTHER CYCLE OF REVIEW FILTERING JUSTIFICATION, TO COME UP WITH OUR CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET. SO WEEL ALREADY, AND SAME THING HAPPENED WITH EQUIPMENT. REQUESTED BY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET. SO THE BUDGET ALREADY CONSTRAINED. IN ADDITION TO WHAT OUR MANAGING DIRECTOREL COVERED, WITH REGARD TO THE PROVI PROVISIONAL, WE NOTICED THAT IN THE CD2 WORKSHEET, THERE WERE REDUCTIONS BEYOND CD1, TO SALARIES CURRENT EXPENSES. YOU FUND COUNCIL ADDS. THAT IS ALL FINE. TO SHUSM MONEY AROUND. BUT THE SHUFFLE MONEY AROUND. COUNCIL ADDS, AND RESPECT WHY ADDS WERE PUT IN PLACE, ALSO, RESTRICTS HOW THE MONEYS CAN BE USED. SO WE CAN'T NECESSARILY TRANSFER MONIES IF SOMETHING CAME UP, WE HAVE ANOTHER STORM LET'S SAY. AND WE NEED TO COVER OVER TIME. WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AS AM. D MENTIONED IS ESSENTIALLY GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL -- MOVEMENT D) SUBMIT A RESOLUTION -- MD) VALIDATE THE RESOLUTION, AND GO THROUGH AT LEAST ONE READING TO GET IT PASSED. ANIMWEEK IN ADVANCE, WHICH IS COMMON, WE BECOME AWARE OF TSUNAMI THAT IS COMING GOING TO HIT ISLAND. RIGHT NOW, MANAGING DIRECTOR MAGNUM P.I. MENTIONED WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MENTIONED WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR PROVISION FOR DISASTER IT PREPAREDNESS AND RECOVERY. SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A RESOLUTION PROCESS. WINDSHEAR NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. WON'T BE ABLE TO PREPARE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.

IT'S GOING TO, INTERFERE WITH GOGOVERNMENT OPERATIONS WE'RE VERY CONCERNED. AND I THINK IT'S GONE A LITTLE TOO FAR. BFS, MYSELF, AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS FEEL THAT THIS IS OVER REACH, OVER REACH INTO OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. THAT WILL NOT HAVE A GOOD IMPACT. WE'RE GOING TO CREATE MORE WORK. NOT JUST FOR US FOR ALL OF YOU. HAVE MORE MEETINGS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE RESOLUTIONS FOR YOU TO REVIEW. WE JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. AND AS MD MENTIONED, AND AS OUR R DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT PROVIDE TO YOU, AS YOU ALLOW THEM TO TESTIFY TODAY, THERE IS A VERY LARGE CONCERN ABOUT INTERFERING WITH OUR WORK. GETTING BACK TO THAT. AS MISDEMEANOR MENTIONED, MD MENTIONED ACCEPT REHABILITATION OF POWERS ISSUE, AND WE HAVE CORPORATION COUNSEL HERE AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, SO YOU ARE WELL INFORMED, AS WE GO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS SECTIONS, PLEASE CALL EXECUTIVE SESSION SO COUNCIL CAN SHARE THE RESEARCH WITH YOU. BECAUSE WE'RE VERY CONCERNED. WITH THAT I'LL TAKE CAN HE QUESTIONS.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR KAWANO. MEMBERS BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, I ACTUALLY KAWAO LIKE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME TESTIMONY. THEN WE'LL RETURN BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION. THEN WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS. FIRST, PROCEED WITH ACTUALLY, I HAVE REMOTE TESTIFIER BEEN WAITING. I BELIEVE WE HAVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT, DBEDT DEPARTMENT, DIRECTOR JAMES TOKIOKA. WAITING ONLINE. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE HIM FIRST, THEN PROCEED WITH ADDITIONAL TESTIFIERS. DIRECTOR TOKIOKA ARE YOU AVAILABLE?

Council Clerk: CHAIR, CHAIR HE SIGNED OFF.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW PROCEED WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. I DO HAVE A LIST OF IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS. STARTING WITHEL LIZA RYAN GILL. GOOD MORNING. JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. AND YOU CAN PROCEED, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND, TESTIFIERS ARE ALLOWED ONE MINUTE TIME FOR TESTIMONY. I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE GENEROUS IF I CAN. BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE TESTIFIER, I DON'T WANT TO RESPECT -- I HE WANTS TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.

Testifier: HAWAII COLLATION MEYER WRITES. 30 IMMIGRANTS SERVING ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS PAI'AINA ESPECIALLY HERE ON OAHU. AND WE'RE HERE TO TESTIFY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF RESTORING THE BUDGET POSITIONS FOR OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. EL OH. R REALLY CRITICAL TO THE WORK WE'VE BEEN HERE ON OAHU OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. O.E.R., FOCUS ON SOMETHING VERY SPECIFICMENT THERE ARE SEVERAL POSITIONS OF WE ARE CALLED COMMUNITY EQUITY LIAISONS WITHIN O.E.R. THAT ARE BUY LING AIL, BY CULTURAL FOLKS MAKE GOVERNMENT REEL FOR SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES. BILINGUAL. AFTER THE KONA LOW HAPPENED REREL LABRADOR AND SEVERAL OF HER OTHER COMMUNITY LIAISONS WENT RIGHT OUT TO THE DISASTER ZONE AND STARTED SERVING THOSE POPULATIONS THAT NEEDED INFORMATION AND THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY COULD UNDERSTAND. WHETHER THAT WAS ILOCANO OR CHINESE, THESE ARE POPULATIONS THAT FOR SEVERAL DAYS, NOT COME INTO ANY DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FACE MASK. WANTED TO ASK, I KNOW THAT FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THREE POSITION IN THE BUDGET BASED ON YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH THE O.E.R. IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT, THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT IS OCCURRING FOR MORE THAN JUST THREE COMMUNITY EQUITY LIAISONS IN THE OFFICE.

Testifier: ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE MR. A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP WITH O.E.R. AND THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL IN US JUST ENGAGING WITH SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES. IMMIGRANT FAMILIES TEND TO CREATE LOTS OF SMALL BUSINESS. AND THEY REALLY NEED SUPPORT AND HELPING TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEMS WHETHER THAT'S TAXATION OR OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THOSE BUSINESSES THRIVE. SOME ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT O.E.R. REALLY HELPED OUR COMMUNITIES ACHIEVE THE INTEGRATION THAT THEY DESERVE. AND THAT REALLY BENEFITS OUR WHOLE ECONOMY ON OAHU.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU MANY APPRECIATE THAT. I DIDN'T THINK EVERYONE NECESSARILY KNEW THAT OUTSIDE OF ILOCANO, MANDARIN AND CANTONESE ALSO BEING PROVIDED OUTSIDE STAFF SUBJECT TO THE BUDGET CUT. MAHALO. MAHALO CHAIR EVERYBODY. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? THANK YOU. NOW PROCEED WITH HOLLY RAID HOL RAIDER.-- HOLLY RAIDER. Testifier: OLELO MY NAME HOLLY. HERE PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET. Chair Okimoto: STATE FIRST AND LAST NAME. STATE IT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.

Testifier: HOLLY READER. COMING FROM A FAMILY OF FARMERS DESCENDANT OF WORK PLANTATIONS HAWAII ISLAND MAUI, STRONGLY SUPPORT PROVIDING FINANCIAL ASSISTANTS FARMERS IMPACTED ABOUT THE KOKONA LOWSTORAGES. ESSENTIAL O ECONOMY AND UGANDA. SUSTAIN LOCAL FOOD SYSTEMS PROVIDE FOOD TO SCHOOLS, PASS CULTURAL KNOWLEDGE MODEL RAYA RESILIENCE STEWARDSHIP HA*RD WORK GENERATION. CONCERNED SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION TO THE OFFICE OF REVITALIZATION BUDGET. PILLAR FOR FARMERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY DURING DISASTER RECOVERY. INITIATIVES LIKE COMMUNITY EQUITY LIAISON PROGRAM AND OAHU BUSINESS CONNECTOR HELP REMOVE BARRIERS TO ACCESS RESOURCES HING WAIALUA COURTHOUSE. PROVIDE CULTURE OUTREACH COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE SEERS TND N CENTERS SUPPORT RESEARCHERS THOSE LIFTED OUT. CUTTING FUNDING -- EXISTING EQUITY US. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. NEXT I HAVE JOHN WISH. FORGIVE ME AFFILM PROMOU APRONOS WRONG. FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME U LAST NAME RIGHT. JOSH RHYTHM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. JOSH WIND CHILL WITH HOLOMUA COLLABORATIVE. WISH CHEFFING WITH REQUEST TO PUT THE FUNDS FOR O.E.R. BACK INTO THE BUDGET TESTIFYING SCWRKS HOLE KNEW A WORK WITH REORGANIZING,ER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. MISSION ALIGNED WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO MAKE SURE, THAT LOCAL WORKING FAMILIES CAN AFFORD TO STAY IN HAWAII AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TO STAY IN HAWAII. ONE WANTED TO NOTE FROM PHILOSOPHICAL LEVEL ONE OF THE F THINK SO IMPORTANT ABOUT KEEPING O.E.R. IN THE BUDGET, STATEMENTS OF PRIORITIES AND SINCE O.E.R. IS REALLY ONLY AGENCY WHO IS CORE MISSION IS TO BUILD STRONG KAMEHAMEHA HIGHWAY, AND TIME LIKE THO NI'IHAU ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ARE SO TOUGH, I THINK IT'S SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE SAYING WE'RE GO GOING TO GO AHEAD ELIMINATE ONE ONE AGENCY SPHOFOCUSED ON TAXICAB REVITALIZATION. WORKING WITH THEM STATE LEGISLATURE EASIER FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES WORKING WITH THEM WAIALUA TO HELP PEOPLE BY THE KONA LOW FLOODING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. IN EXAMPLE WE HAVE SHERRY MEN OR FROM THE CHAIRMAN BEFORE COMMERCE.

Testifier: ALOHA GOOD MORNING. ALOHA GOOD MORNING. SHERRY MENOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAWAII. WE ARE HERE TO STATE OUR SUPPORT FOR O.E.R. WE'LL STAND ON OUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY BUT JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT O.E.R. HAS BEEN A CRITICAL PARTNER FOR THE CHAMBER IN TERMS OF ADVOCATING AND SUPPORTING OUR SMALL BUSINESS TIME LIKE THIS, WE BELIEVE THAT COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH GOVERNMENT IS CRITICAL AND VERY EFFECTIVE IN ENSURING THAT OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTED. AND WE ALSO SUPPORT FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT THE PREVIOUS TESTIFIERINGS TESTIFIED ON. MAHALO.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MISS MENOR ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE HUNTER HEIVINON.

Testifier: THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF HAWAII -- UNION. IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD. COLLECTED DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS FROM STATEWIDE, INCLUDING 250 FARMERS HERE ON OAHU. WITHIN THAT FINDING IDENTIFIED 20 MILLION LOSSES. ONE FARM HAD FEDERAL CROP INSURANCE LAST YEAR ON THE ISLAND OF OAHU. 60 BENEFITED FROM FEDERAL NONINSURED CROP ASSISTANCE AFTER DISASTER 30 YEAR HIS RIF THAT PROGRAM. THESE ARE HISTORY. SIGNIFICANT LOSSES OUT TO THE RESTAURANTS FARMERS MARKETING AT SCHOOL CAFETERIAS CONTINUE TO SO FOR SOME RHYMETIME GRANT PROGRAM PROVIDE CRITICAL RELIEF AND I BELIEVE AS WRITTEN ROUTE THE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. CITY WAS LATE TO THE GAME IN HAVING DEDICATED AGRICULTURAL STAFF. CREATING AG LOW A SON POSITION IN OED2011. LIAISON. MANY OTHER COUNTIES HAVE HAD POSITIONS SUCH AS THAT SINCE THE 19EL 0 ACE. IF WE ARE 1980. PROPOSING TO REMOVE CRITICAL YOUNGER FARMERS ARE FACING UNPRESS DEAFENED LOSSES DO NOT HAVE FEDERAL BACKSTOPS. UNPRECEDENTED CRITICAL TORT COUNTY TO STEP IN AND PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? , COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. WHAT YOU ARE WEYER THANK YOU CHAIR. I KNOW ONE OF THE PROPOSALS SPECIFICALLY ON THE GRANT SUPPORT FOR FARMS WAS FOR $5 MILLION PROGRAM. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD EXPAND LILTED MORITA MORE, DEALING WITH A LOT A LITTLE BIT MORE. DEALING WITH A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS HOW TIGHT BUDGET IS. WHAT IF ANY AMOUNT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN JUST HOW THAT WOULD SUPPORT BOTH FARMERS AND BROADER ECONOMY?

Testifier: I THINK ANY SUPPORT IS WELCOME. FARMERS UNION FOUNDATION IS RAISED I THINK AROUND $700,000. WHICH WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO STATEWIDE. PROGRAM AT THE STATE LEVEL. BUT IT'S OFFERING 1500 IN RELIEF IN SUPPORT. AND MEDIAN ALSO FOR FARMER ON OAHU AROUND 30 TO US PER FARMER ANY VOLUME IS WELCOME. RESO HE THINK SHARED WITH YOUR OFFICE FOLKS FOR PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IMPACTED FARM OPERATION. MANY OF THOSE HAVE AGRICULTURAL DEDICATION. ANOTHER MECHANISM ABOUT THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE OWNING PROPERTY DIRECTLY PAYING PROPERTY TAX. MANY. PRODUCERS ARE ON THE ISLAND AND ISLANDS ARE ON LICENSES, LEASES AN HAVE RENT THAT IS IT DUE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY RECEIVE THAT BENEFIT. WE THINK GRANT PROGRAM IS A CRITICAL MEBLG MECHANISM WHATEVEREL FUNDING YOU COULD PROVIDE WOULD BE WELCOME.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. ANYONE ELSE HERE IN PERSON WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? THANK UMPLE WELCOME TO THE PODIUM. MIC IS ON. STATE CROWDER NAME FOR THE RECORD. Testifier:EL STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHAIR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. KAREN POLK EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CEO OF THE KAPOLEI KAHALA MALL ER OF BECERRA. MANY OF YOU KNOW, KAPOLEI. SCHAIM BERHOW. NOT AREA JUST TOP DOP OWE LAY. WAIPAHU TOO MAK MAKAHA. NOT JUST KAPOLEI. APPROXIMATELY 400 BUSINESSES AND, 2020, 200,000 R 200,000 RES HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT URGING COUNCIL TO FUND O.E.R. AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED SOME OF THE REASONS WHY I LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE UNTIL PARTICULAR THAT IMPACTED OUREL SMALL BUSINESSES ON WAIANAE COAST. LAST YEAR, FORTUNATE TO HAVE INAUGURAL COHORT OF GROUP OF SMALL BUSINESSES 15 OF THEM, MANY OF THEM ARE MEMBERS NOW, AND HAVE STRONG BUSINESSES MOVING FORWARD, THESE WERE START-UPS. AND MILE THEY'RE ALREADY OTHER PROGRAMS IN OUR STATE THAT SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS, THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT HELP BUSINESS START FROM GROUND UP. NOT ONLY THAT, ON THE WAIANAE COAST. IN THEIR REGION. AND AS ANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TRAFFIC. ALL OF THESE OTHER CHALLENGES BUT TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT RIGHT ON THE WAIANAE COAST, FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, IS IMMEASURABLE. I RNL YOU TO SUPPORT THIS FUNDING. URGE TO YOU. MAHALO.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? ANY OTHER TESTIFIERS HERE IN PERSON? OKAY. THIS IS FOR BILL 22. BUDGET BILL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

Testifier: DOTTIE KELLY PADDOCK. WITH HUI HAUULA. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CEO FOR THIS NONPROFIT. AND COMMUNITY OF HALAU ON THE NORTH SHORE. HAU'ULA ON THE NORTH SHORE. STRONGLY SUPPORT, AND TRUST THE ADMINISTRATION'S BUDGET THIS BUDGET SUPPORTS DEM TO INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY AND CAPABILITY ADDING STAFF AND SERVICES TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES. THIS FUNDING IS NEEDED AND NECESSARY ALL COMMUNITIES ON OAHU ARE CRYING OUT FOR THIS INVOLVEMENT IN SUPPORT FROM DEM. WE ALSO SUPPORT DEM'S STARTS PROVISIONAL FUNDS. TO ALLOW DEM TO FUND EMERGENCY NEEDS ACTIONS AN IMMEDIATE NEED IMMEDIATELY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: TBE QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO OTHER IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER IN PERSON -- PLEASE IF YOU'RE HERE TO TESTIFY BILL 22, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LINE UP AND COME TO THE PODIUM. OKAY. NEXT. SEEING NO FURTHER IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS, NOW PROCEED WITH RIEMPLES. ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? REMOTE TESTIFIERS. Council Clerk: CHAIR, YES, WE DO.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. I HAVE A LIST HERE. EL I'LL GO DOWN THE LIST FIRST AND IF ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, RAISE YOUR HAND. FIRST ELIZA MANCHESTER. TESTIFIER ON? Testifier: NOT LOG ON. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. THEN I HAVE MISS AMY KEVIN AUGER AUGER BUY ON I. -- AMY AGBAYANI. Testifier: ALOHA. CAN YOU HEAR ME? Chair Okimoto: ALOHA. YES WHEN WE CAN.

Testifier: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY MY A AMY AGBAYANI AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC IT REVITALIZATION. IT DOES GOOD WORK. IT PROVIDES SERVICES AND RESOURCES FOR COUNTY AND COUNTY AND HELPS LEVERAGE CITY AND FEDERAL RESOURCES. THIS IS REAL ASSET AND INVESTMENT. PERSONALLY WORKED WITH MANY INDIVIDUALS STAFF AND I AM PERRIED WITH THEORY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR COMPETENCE. THEIR SKILLS AND ALSO THEIR EFFECTIVENESS. SO I THINK O.E.R. IS A UNIT THAT CITY & COUNTY, BENEFITS ALL OF US AT THE CITY & COUNTY. I SUPPORT THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION, NOT JUST THE THREE EQUITY LIAISON POSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I URGE AND RESPECTFULLY SUPPORT THIS BUDGET FOR O.E.R.

Chair Okimoto:ER THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. NEXT I HAVE MR. BOYD READY ONLINE. I SEE YOUR NAME OF. Testifier: THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE HONGWANJI? RIGHT PLACE? Chair Okimoto: NO. THIS IS FOR BILL 22 OPERATION BUDGET. OPERATING BUDGET. Testifier: 23. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. DENISE AND ANTOLINI. NOT PRONOUNCING WORDS PROPERLY TODAY. PLEASE FORGIVE ME. NOT LOGGED ON. OKAY. NEXT I HAVE MARK ANTONY CLEMENTE. LA GOOD MORNING.

Testifier: LOVES STARBUCKS CHAIR. ALOHA. ALOHA CHAIR. MAP HAPPEN MAY DAY, LEI DAY. MEMBERS, MARK ANTONY CLEMENTE WITH THE HAWAII REGION COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS. STRONG SUPPORT OF BILL 22 CD1, SPECIFICALLY WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PROVISION IN THIS BILL THAT TACKLES CRITICAL BOTTLENECK WHICH IS PERMITTING. RIGHT NOW,EL LANES ARE SLOWING. HOUSING DRIVING UP U UP COSTS HOLDING BACK JOBS AND FROM TO OUR PERSPECTIVE, LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN ENGINEERS IS A SMART TARGETED FIX. STRENGTHENS ONE PLACE WHERE PROJECTS EITHER MOVE OR STALL. SO THIS IS A WORKFORCE INVESTMENT THAT UNLOCKS ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION PIPELINE AND WE KINDLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS MATTER. MAHALO.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MR. CLEMENTE. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. NEXT I HAVE GREGORY KIM. I SEE MR. KIM.

Testifier: OKAY. I'M HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GREGORY KIM. COMMISSIONER OF THE ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION COMMISSION OF THE CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU. AND I JUST WANT TO PUT A STRONG WORD IN FOR O.E.R. BEEN ON O.E.R. FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. IN MY MIND, I COME FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR MORE ENTREPRENEURSHIP INNOVATION SIDE. UNIQUE RESOURCE BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE AND IT O.E.R. WHO ARE USED TO BASICALLY GETTING THINGS DONE. AND WE NEED TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE. ESPECIALLY WHEN THINGS ARE BAD. THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S THE BEST TIME TO INVEST BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE'RE NOT LAYING FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE GROWTH. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TIME AND SO O.E.R. WORK IN PROGRESS FROM MY STANDPOINT. THINK COMMISSION WORKS CLOSELY WITH THEM. AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF RE-EXAMINING THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND I PERSONALLY PLAN TO RELEGAL I FOCUS EFFORTS ON THINGS THAT WHRERND OVER YEARS. REALLY FOCUS, AND THAT IS MAIN THING. LEARNED. CAN THEY LEARN FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE AND GET BETTER? ,ER QUESTION TO ME IS IS THERE BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NO. IT TAKES A LITTLE P MORE TIME THAN A FEW YEARS. AND ULTIMATELY GOING TO RESULT IN JOB CREATION. AND/OR WISE, SEND IN WRITTEN TESTIMONY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MR. KIM. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. NEXT I VALUE BAY TINA MOCK. PATINA MOCK.

Testifier: HELLO. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LEGAL CLINIC WHERE HONOLULU BASED NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES FREE IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICE. TO OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET CUT TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. AND ASK ON BEHALF OF THE IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS WE REPRESENT, TO RESTORE THOSE FUNDS. THE O.E.R. PLAYS CRITICAL ROLE IN CONNECTS GOVERNMENT RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITIES IN NEED. AND WE SEEN THAT ESPECIALLY DURING DISASTERS AND AFTER DISASTERS LIKE WITH THE COVID PANDEMIC, WHEN O.E.R. WAS REALLY ABLE TO CHANNEL FEDERAL FUND, TO THE GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY, IN NEED, AND SO MANY LIMITED ENGLISH SPEAKERS, ONE IN FIVE ESTIMATED, IMMIGRANTS, IN HONOLULU, THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PANDEMIC MEANT OR ISOLATION QUARQUARANTINE ANY OF THAT. CURRENTLY O.E.R. PRIMARY AGENCY WE'VE ENGAGED WITH. THESE THINGS AND ALSO WHEN THERE'S CHANGING IMMIGRANT FEDERAL POLICIES, THEY ARE ABLE TO HEIFER H.E.L.P. US REACH THOUSAND OF PEOPLE IN MULTILINGUALLY THROUGH THEIR LIVE WEBINARS. WE'LL STAND ON OUR TESTIMONY SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA USE PERMITTED? SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA USE PERMIT SUBMITTED IN WRIELG AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING. SUBMITTED IN WRITING AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING.

Chair Okimoto: QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. ANYONE ELSE LOGGED ON REMOTELY WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY AT THIS TIME? ONG ON BILL 22? SEEING NO FURTHER TESTIFIERS. OKAY. MEMBERS WE'LL NOW TURN -- WE'LL NEW BEGIN REVIEW OF OPERATING BUDGET. ON PAGE 1. GENERAL GOVERNMENT. STARTING WITH THE MANAGING DIRECTOR'S OFFICE. I SIDE DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE WITH US. I SEE DEPUTY TREKKER. GOOD MORNING KRISHNA.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING BUDGET CHAIR. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL CHAIR. DEPUTY DIRECTOR. COUNCIL VICE CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS MANY KRISHNA JAYARAM DEMPEWOLF DEPUTY IMAGINING DIRECTOR. SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THESE CHANGES. NG MAGMA DIRECTOR. BUDGET CHAIR I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT SO MANY TESTIFIERS ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT O.E.R. MANAGING DIRECTOR DID SEND YOU AND COUNCIL CHAIR LETTER A EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT FUND CUT INSTEAD OF FUNDING O.E.R. THE ONE THING WOULD ADD FOR PERSPECTIVE, EVERYBODY ELSE SPOKEN ON THE GOOD WORK WE THINK THEY DID, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WORKING WITH COUNSELOR WE HAVE BEEN TRANSITIONING O.E.R. FROM BEING FUNDED TO GENERAL FUNDS FUND. AND SO THIS IT SUDDEN SEEMS TO US LIKE A SUDDEN SHIFT TO DEFUND O.E.R., DOES CATCH US A LITTLE BIT BY SURPRISE. NOW, ARE ALWAYS OF THE MIND THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT CAN DO BETTER CERTAIN COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THEIR BELIEF HOW WE SHOULD COURSE CHANGE. CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO WE WOULD WELCOME FURTHER DISCUSSION. HOW O.E.R. COULD DO BETTER BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT DEFUNDING IT TO THIS EXTENT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. TO SHARE COMMENTS. SPES IRNG QUESTIONS DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR ARE HERE. SPECIFIC QUESTIONS,.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MANAGING DIRECTOR. DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR. MEMBERS DID YOU HAVE YOU IN QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR? CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO THE MDO LISTED ON PAGE 1. Council Clerk: CHAIR, APPROPRIATE TIME, COMMENTS IN SUPPORT. Chair Okimoto: YES. THANK YOU. I'LL START WITH COUNCIL VICE CHAIR TUPOLA.

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR BEING HERE. I ALWAYS R ALWAYS APPRECIATE HIMMENT THOROUGHNESS AND PRESENCE AT SO MANY THINGS. I WANTED TO READ A FEW PARAGRAPHS THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE MAY OR NOT HAVE READ THIS LETTER THAT I WROTE. SO WE HAD VARIOUS DEGREES CONVERSATIONS ABOUT O.E.R. AND MY BELIEF THAT LONG WITH OTHER COUNTIES OUR CONTINUES SHOULD HAVE THIS OFFICE AND STIMULATED McCULLY GROWTH IN THE LETTER I WROTE, ECONOMIC GROALT. I YIEWTD LINED UHERO REPORT AND AUDITOR, SIGNIFIED THAT REORGANIZING,ER NEEDED TO STEP MORE INTOEL JUSTICE STRATEGIC ROLE OF ONE, SETTING ECONOMIC STRATEGY COUNTY AND CITY WIDE, O.E.R. ALIGN DEPARTMENTS AND ADDRESS SYSTEM J BARRIERS TO ECONOMIC GROWTH. MUCH CURRENT WORK FOCUS ON DEVELOPING OPERATING PROGRAMS, THAT MANY CASES, OVERLAP SERVICES WITH PROVIDED BY PARTNERS SUCH AS U.S. SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, IN BOY, O.E.R. SHOULD BE ECONOMIC POLICY STRATEGY LEADER --? HAWAII) NO NOT A DENTAL SERVICEE PROVIDER. WE KNOW THEY'RE BENEFICIAL GRATEFUL O FOR THE PROGRAMS. IT IS WHETHER THIS IS HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF CITY OFFICE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO LEAD ECONOMIC POLICY STRATEGY. O.E.R. PLACEMENT WITHIN THE MAYOR'S CABINET PRESENTED SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY, DIRECTOR IS IN A STRATEGIC POSITION TO IT SET ECONOMIC STRATEGY ALIGN DEPARTMENTS, AND ADDRESS SYSTEMIC BARRIERS TO GROWTH BY PROPOSING POLICIES AND WORKING ALONGSIDE COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT POLICIES THAT MIGHT AFFECT PERMITTING TIMELINES. INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS, LAND USE ALIGNMENT, SUCH AS BILL 10, AND THE OVERALL COST OF DOING BUSINESS. AND BECAUSE THIS ISN'T CURRENTLY HAPPENING WHY WEB HAD THIS DISCUSSION MANY TIMES. WE'VE HAD I HOPE MOVING FORWARD WE CAN PIVOT AND BECOME THE TAXICAB LEADER WE NEED TO DO BE. ECONOMIC LEADER. CHAIR WATERS MENTIONS IT. WE NEED REVENUE STIMULATION IN

THE CITY. WANT THERE TO BE LEADERSHIP AT THIS LEVEL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO HOPE THAT FUTURE, THIS POLICY ALIGNMENT, AND CHARTER DESIGNATION OF WHAT THE OFFICE SHOULD DO WILL FIND ITSELF BECAUSE I THINK ONCE WE START TO DEVELOP THAT STRATEGY, AND WE GET TO SEE WHAT THE STRATEGY IS, I THINK THAT WILL START TO JUSTIFY THE POSITION IT'S AND DIRECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING. SO THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU MANAGING DEPUTY DIRECTOR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MANAGING DIRECTOR'S OFFICE? COUNCILMEMBER WEYER.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. I'LL LET THE TO TOO MANY TESTIMONY SPEAK FOR ITSELF ON THE O.E.R. ITEMS. PRESENTED, AS WE AS DO DOZENS CAME IN WRITTEN TESTIMONY. ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO READ THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS DIFFERENT SUPPORT, COMMENT, OPPOSED IN TERM OF BILL POSITION BUT I THINK CONTENT IT OF THE ACTUAL TESTIMONY IS ON POINT. I WANTED TO ASK SINCE WE'RE ON MDO OFFICE, IF I COULD ASK DR. FOX TO COME UP. BECAUSE I WANTED TO JUST AT LEAST HAVE THEY ARE EXPLAIN TO THE COMMITTEE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE GOING ON REGARDING ONE POSITION WE HAD PROPOSED HAVING TO MDO OFFICE. WINDSHEAR BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO ADJUST LANGUAGE. WE'VE BEEN) AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED INITIALLY AND 082 AND MODIFIED THIS MORNING INCORPORATE ADMINISTRATION'S LANGUAGE AND 099. JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD GET DR. FOX TO PROVIDE OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT POSITION COULD POSSIBLY DO.

Testifier: ALOHA BUDGET CHAIR. ALOHA GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR FOX.

Testifier: MAHALO COUNCILMEMBER WATERS. SO IN THE LATEST AMENDMENTS, THERE WAS A PROVISION ADDED FOR 90,000 OUT OF SALARIES TO HAVE A POSITION THAT WOULD ADDRESS CERTAIN OF THE CENTRALIZED WATER ISSUES THAT THE CITY IS EXPERIENCING. AND SO BEING ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE HE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE ARE WE MOVE AGO AHEAD, ONE. AREAS THAT WE FEEL IS THE MOST STRATEGIC IS TO LINK THE WORK TO ONE WATER, THE ONE WATER PANEL, AND LEADERSHIP GROUP IS CHARGED WITH PRODUCING IT REPORT AND CIP PROJECTS FOR 30 YEARS AHEAD. ON WHAT ALL OF OUR WATER SYSTEMS LOOK LIKE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER FOR BOTH BUILDING SIDE ANDS ARE THE PLANNING SIDE. SO OUR REVISIONS THAT ARE SUGGESTED BACK WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY POSITION IS RELATED TO MORE OF OUR INTEGRATED WATER SOURCES AND STRATEGIES FOR IMPLEMENTATION AROUND MANAGING OUR FINITE FRESH WATER WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER RE RESILIENCE AND RELIABILITY ACROSS ALLCY SYSTEMSMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE LESS AWARE ONE WATER PANEL IS OPERATION AN WISE WITHIN AN MOMENT MOU 8 CITY AGENCIES TO WORK TOGETHER INTEGRATED PLANNING WEYE.

Councilmember Weyer: WOULD THAT POSITION BE FILL BEING OR PURSUE FILLING IT AND ISLANDWIDE FOCUS IN TERMS OF WORK THAT THEY DO? ,.

Testifier: YES. PUBABSOLUTELY PREFER THAT'S ISLANDWIDE POSITION. THAT MAKE SURE IT IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT AND AGAIN, FRESH WATER, STORM WATER AND WASTEWATER INTEGRATED PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION ACROSS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR DISTRICTS MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO US. THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE ONE WATER PLAN AND PANEL SET UP NOW. MAKE SURE WE'RE ATTENDING TO THOSE NEEDS AND PLANNING FOR 30 YEARS OF THE CIP PROJECT. AHEAD. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS POSITION WOULD BE FILLABLE AND I THINK AT THE LEVEL THAT YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH GOOD TEAL DEAL OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE COULD BRING IN T THE CITY TO HELP WITH THE INTEGRATED STRATEGIC WORK THROUGHOUT OUR DEPARTMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS STRONGER INTERGOVERNMENTAL MULTIJURISDICTIONAL ALIGNMENT.

Councilmember Weyer: LAST QUESTION. BE MINDFUL OF TIME. WOULD THAT WORK INCLUDE ANALYSIS IN REVIEW OF BITTER PRACTICES WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND FLOOD IMPACTS? WE SAW SO SEEING A LOT OF WORK IN OUR STREAMS RIGHT NOW. HAD REALLY GOOD INFO BRIEFING I THINK IN EM AND OTHER COMMIT HE'S JUST DISCUSSING COMMITTEES DISCUSSING HOW TO MITIGATE FUTURE FLOOD IMPACTS. JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. AND WORKED THAT THAT POSITION COULD BE DOING AS WELL.

Testifier: YES. E. S COMMITTEE HAD INFORMATION BRIEFING, WITH OUR CHIEF ENGINEER. EES DFM DIRECTOR THIS WEEK, HE AND I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS BEING A PART OF THE ALIGNMENT AND THEN AGAIN, RELATED TO ONE WATER HONOLULU STRATEGIC VISION. Councilmember Weyer: FAIR TO SAY KEEP YOUEL--CAPABLE SAFE. Testifier: YES. DEFINITELY KEEP PEOPLE SAFEMENT KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. Co WEYER THANK YOU CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. TAM? Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR. FOX WANT TO GO BACK TO DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR IF POSSIBLE. IN REGARD TO REORGANIZING,ER OTHER.

Chair Okimoto: SURE. DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR. O.E.R. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. TAM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY IS 677 POSITIONS. -- 7 POSITIONS LISTED IN THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. 20 WHAT EXTENT DOES O.E.R. HAVE POSITIONS THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED? TO WHAT EXTENT. Testifier: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY DO WE HAVE A FEDERALLY FUNDED POSITIONS AT THIS PO POINT IN O.E.R. OR TRANSITIONED EVERYBODY? BEAR WITH ME.

Councilmember Weyer: MY QUESTION IS IF WE ONLY LIST 7 POSITIONS AND WE RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING, TOO WHAT EXTENT COULD WE CREATE A FEDERALLY FUND POSITION OR RESTRICTED AND THEN YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION. Testifier: LET ME HAVE THE DIRECTOR GIVE YOU SPECIFIC.

Testifier: THANK YOU. CHAIR A AND COUNCILMEMBERS. FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION TODAY. EL E.A.R. HAS TOTAL OF 24 POSITION. O.E.R., SOMEWHERE AROUND 8 OF THEM WE WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE EXACT NUMBER. ARE STILL. FUNDED BY THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS. THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT CAN BE SPENT THROUGH THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, THAT CAN BE USED AS DESIGNATED BY THE CITY FOR POSITION. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE WE HAVE A POSITION THAT IS PRIVATELY FUNDED ALSO BY YOU'LL PONO INITIAL E'O ISSUE TESTIFIER AND ULTIMATELY, INITIATIVE. ULT ATHE GOAL IS TO TRANSITION POSITIONS IN OUR OFFICE TO GENERAL FUNDS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WRITE FOR FEDERAL GRANTS, PRIVATE GRANTS, GET PRIVATE FUNDS, BE ABLE THROUGH THAT ONE PERSON, TO IDENTIFY THE GAP CREATE THE PROGRAM, AND ALL OF THAT MONEY EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM, THAT O.E.R. HAS EVEREL MANAGED, IS RUN BY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SOME OF THOSE SITTING ACROSS THE AISLE TODAY FROM US. WHETHER IT'S HAWAIIAN COUNCIL CATHOLIC CHARITIES, CHIMPANZEE PER BEER FESTIVAL OF COMMERCE, DIRE DIRE CHAMBER OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES ET CETERA. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, POSITIONS IN OUR OFFICE. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, DRAW DOWN FEDERAL FUNDS, DO THE PROCUREMENT, AND PASS EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT WE RECEIVE ON TO COMMUNITY AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO NOT HOLD THAT MONEY AND THAT IS THE VALUE OF HAVING GENERAL FUNDED POSITIONS IN THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION. EL.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: IF THE SNUB OF POSITIONS LIFORTSED IN BUDGET IS OLD ONLY 7, NUMBER YOU HAVE POSITION. WOULD THOSE FEDERALLY FUND AS WELL AS ONE GRANT POSITION CONTINUE TO EXIST ON JULY 1 OF 2026? Testifier: THERE WOULD BE FEW THAT WE COULD EXTEND THROUGH APPROXIMATELY SETTSETTLEMENT WHEN CITY WILL BE DRAWING DOWN FINAL AMOUNT STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUND. RECALL SETTLEMENT. POSITIONS WOULD NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE TO THEM. THROUGH SEPTEMBER. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: FEDERAL FUNDING EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30? Testifier: FEDERAL FUNDING EXAMPLE INSPIRES DECEMBER 30. BUT THE CITY WILL START WRAPPING UP USE OF THOSE FUNDS EARLIER IN THE QUARTER.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I SEE. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. RECALL O.E.R. RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF RENTAL AND UTILITY RELIEF FUNDS, 30-AND-A-HALF MILLION OR SO IN FEDERAL FUNDING. ARE THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY CAPABLE OF RECEIVING THESE TYPES OF FUNDS OR BECAUSE OF THEIR PROGRAMMATIC RESTRICTIONS, WITHIN DTS TRANSPORTATION, DFM FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WOULD THEY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME TIME E'O KIND OF APPLICATIONS THAT YOURS OFFICE IS P PUTTING IN.

Testifier: THAT'S CORRECT. MONIZ OF THESE OFFICES HAVE POSITIONS FAIRINGS PARTIALLY FUND BY THE FEDERAL FUNDS THEY RECEIVE. MOST OF THESE OFFICE WAS. ROW SROW RESTRICTED TO THOSE POSITIONS OPERATION OF FEDERAL FUNDS. O.E.R. LAST FLEXIBILITY. ENDED UP DOING THE RENTAL AND USE AT THIS TIME RELIEF PROGRAM UTILITY RELIEF DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, DID NOT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO WITH THEIR POSITIONS BO KIND OF OPERATE THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK. I THINK I WANT TO EMPHASIZE VALUE OF O.E.R. IN THAT WAY. WITH CONTRACT POSITIONS, WE ARE FLEXIBLE. NOT ONLY CAN WE SPEND TIME OVER THE LAST MONTH, 7 DAYS A WEEK, OUT ON THE NORTHBOUND NORTH SHORE, BUT DURING BLUE SKIES, WE ARE ALSO WORKING ASK TO MAKE SURE DOLLARS PASS THROUGH OUR OFFICE WITH 100% OF THE DOLLARS GOING OUT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. E'O TAM. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. KUBO THANK YOU. FOR O.E.R. Councilmember Tulba: DIRECTOR IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED CD2, WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE CITY AND COMMUNITIES IN REGARD TO YOUR OFFICE AND JUST SUMMARIZE.

Testifier: WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT 18 POSITIONS THAT ARE FILLED TODAY. WITH AS WE CALL, THEM LIVE BODY IS. REAL HUMANS WHO ARE DEDICATED FACPUBLIC SERVANTS WORKING FOR THE CITY. TUBE IMPACT FOR TO THE COMMUNITIES? YOU KIND OF TOUCHED IT WITH SOME OF THEM, BUT LIKE NOT ONLY HELPING OUT ON NORTH SHORE FAMILIES, BUT CITY WIDE.

Testifier: YES. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. YOU THINK COUPLE OF WORDS FROM ONE OF THE TESTIMONIES, THAT WAS SUBMITTED, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE FUNDED A FELLOW IN OUR OFFICE BECAUSE OF BELIEF IN OUR WORK AND THE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT FORWARD. O.E.R. TAKEMENT WORK OF BUILDING RECALL ECONOMIC INFRASTRUCTURE GROUND ESTABLISHING NEW PROGRAMS BUILDING TRUST WITH COMMUNITY AND POSITIONING CITY TO ACCESS AND AFFECTIVELY DEPLOY FEDERAL, STATE, PHILANTHROPY AND PRIVATE CAPITAL, THIS INCLUDES CREATING SYSTEMS, AND PRACTICES THAT DID NOT PREVIOUSLY EXIST AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL AND ADVANCING MORE EQUITABLE, COORDINATED AND RESILIENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH FOR OAHU. OF IN WORK IS NOT ALWAYS IMMEDIATELY VISIBLE. GETTING TO YOUR POINT, BUT IT IS FOUNDATIONAL. THE COORDINATION OF AGENCIES, ALIGNMENT OF FUNDING STREAMS, DEVELOPMENT OF TRUST, WITH COMMUNITIES, AND THE CREATION OF PATHWAYS FOR BUSINESS, AND WORKERS TO ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES REPRESENT WHAT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD AS THE INVISIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THIS CAPACITY, EVEN WELL FUNDED INITIATIVES CAN REMAIN FRAGMENTED, DUPLICATIVE OR INACCESS NL. O.E.R. INSURES THAT SYSTEMS, FUNCTION TOGETHER. MAKING INVESTMENT MORE EFFECTIVE, ACCELERATING IMPLEMENTATION AND IMPROVING OUTCOUNCILMEMBERS. THAT HOPE THAT RESPONDS TO YOUR QUESTION T.

Councilmember Tulba: TUBING THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: COUNCILMEMBER WEYER.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. QUICK COMMENT. THERE IS HONESTLY SO MANY PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE DPP IS BEEN OUT THERE. DCS. ALL THE OTHER PARKS. JUST WANT TO MAHALO YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR ALL THE WORK, WHAT THE TEAM IS DOING FOR YOU ON THE GROUND. I THINK I'VE BEEN SO MANY EVENTS WHERE YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO BE THERE. SO LIKE LIE AYE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE CENTER, LAIE WE ARE SYSTEMS SET UP BY DPP BUT THEY WRRNT ABLE TO MAKE THAT PARTICULAR EVENT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER SUPPORT, O.E.R. AND YOURSELF SPECIAL TRANSIT SERVICES IRNLGLY-SPECIALINGLY TOOK OVER HELPING MANY HE IS RESIDENTS CONNECT AND BETTER UNDERSTAND DONATION, WEBSITE. SPECIFICALLY R OF COURSE KAHUKU VILLAGES ASSOCIATION, FARMERS MEETING 8:00 AT NIGHT WALK IN IT DIDN'T EXPECT YOU AS A DIRECTOR TO BE THERE. WORKING WITH STAFF AND WORKING DIRECTLY WITH FARMERS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH SUCH DEVASTATING LOSSES AND CHALLENGES AND SO JUST WANTED TO REREALLY MAHALO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF LEADERSHIP THAT WE NEED IN GOVERNMENT, SERVANT LEADERSHIP ALSO VERY DATABASED POLICY BASED MAHALO FOR THAT THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR. Councilmember Tulba: SORRY. I SO IT'S 18 POSITION. IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A NUMBER, SAY WE HAD TO CUTEL WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM NUMBER FOR YOU TO BE EFFECTIVE ENOUGH? HAD TO CUT.

Testifier: I THINK, OUR STAFF IS AT A MINIMUM LEVEL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION, COMPARED TO OUR COUNTERPARTS, ON THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS, IN THEIR OFFICES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN MOI MAUKA MAUI COUNTY AROUND SAME NUMBERS BUT BUDGET OF $12 MILLION. HAWAII COUNTY HAS ABOUT 28 POSITIONS WE HAVE 24. THEY HAVE BUDGET OF $4 MILLION. OR $5 MILLION. SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. I HAVE THE EXACT NUCS I CAN SHARE NUMBERS. SAME WITH QUESTION. COUNTY I THINK THEY HAVE 13 TO 15 POSITION. AND THEY'RE FUNDING IS ABOUT $4 MILLION. SO I THINK YOU'RE GETTING BANNING FOR THE BUCK. WITH OUR 24 POSITION THE BANG FOR THE BUCK AND OUR TWO, THREE? AND OUR $2 MILLION BUDGET.

Councilmember Tulba: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. FURTHER QUESTIONS? FOR O.E.R. ACCEPTING AMENDMENT HAMES TO MDO LEURMTSED ON PAGE ONE. AMENDMENT LISTED ON PAIN E'O P1. TOP OF PAGE 2,EL KIMBERLEE HASHASHIRO. CUSTOMER SERVICES. ALOHA GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR HARSH ROW.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING BUDGET CHAIR OKIMOTO MASON HO OAT CHAIR WATERS. DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF CUSS PERVERSE. HASHIRO. I WANTED TO, EXPRESS MY APPRECIATE CONGRATULATIONS APPRECIATION REGARDING RESTORATION OR NOT CONSIDERING ADDITIONAL SALARY CUTS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. AS YOU KNOW, WE FREED I HE PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC SO MANY OF OUR LOCATIONS AT DRIVER'S LICENSE, OFFICES, SATELLITE CITY JESSI JHALVES CRITICAL WE CONTINUE TO HE PRO VIETD THAT. CURRENT EXPENSE REDUCTIONS PROPOSED I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME EXPLAINING, WHY THEY'RE SO CRITICAL TO OUR OPERATIONS ALSO. SO DESIGN AND R PRINT CENTER LARGE COMPONENT OF OUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE. AND THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF SUPPORT P TO ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR PRINTING, MAILING, DESIGN SUPPORT. AND THAT CURRENT EXPENSE FUNDING IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AT THOSE LEVELS. SATELLITE CITY HALL, TEN LOCATION ACROSS ISLAND. AND ALTHOUGH THE AMOUNT IS SMALLER, REGARDING THE REDUCTION, IT'S EQUALLY CRITICAL FOR OUR APUNA NICK REGO TO -- OPERATIONS PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC, PROVIDE SUPPLIES COMPUTERS, ALL THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECT SERVICE. AND LARGEST AMOUNT IS FOR THE DMV DIVISION. THAT I VISION HAS A LOT OF CONTRACTS. AND IT'S SUPPORTS PRINTING AND MAILING OF OUR DRIVER'S LICENSE STATE ID CARDS, PRODUCING LICENSE PLATES. TYING ABANDON VEHICLES. TOWING. AND THEN ALSO SUPPORTING OPERATIONS THAT FIVE DRIVER'S LICENSE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE ISLAND. SO THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THIS FUNDING IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THAT. WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I MENTIONED THIS IN PREVIOUS COMMIT MEAL MEETINGS WE ARE

EXPERIENCINGEL A SPIKE CURRENTLY THIS YEAR IN SERVICE. COMMITTEE MEETINGS OUR VOLUME IS INCREASING, OVER 50%. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO INCREASE SERVICES. WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE CREATIVE IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY EXPANDING ONLINE SERVICES, THAT I ALSO SHARED WITH COUNCIL. THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH DIT, BUT ALSO, TRYING TO SHIFT SERVICES TO OPEN UP MORE RENEWAL APPOINTMENTS. SO THAT WE CAN BRING DOWN THE WAIT TIMES. WE HAD BEEN AT A POINT FOR MOST OF OUR OPEN A.I.S UNTIL RECENTLY, ONLY TOOK ABOUT A YOU MONTH OR LITTLE OVER MONTH TO GET AN APPOINTMENT. OUR APPOINTMENTS. RECENTLY EXPANDED WE'RE AT 2, 3 MONTH WIT TIMES NOW. WE WAIT TIMES. STILL ACCEPT WALK IN SERVICE. STILL PROVIDING SATURDAY SERVICE. SO THESE ARE VERY KATE CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR PLAN. TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS. THIS DEMAND IN ER IS ITS ADVICE LEVELS SERVICE LEVELS IS GOING TO CONTINUE THROUGH END OF 2027. AND IT WON'T BE UNTIL 2028 WHERE WE START TO SEE DECREASE AND RETURNING TO PREVIOUS LEVELS. THIS IS BECAUSE OF OUR 8 YEAR RENEWALEL CYCLE EVERY 8 YEARS OR SO, CITY GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS. WE'RE WORKING TO PROVIDE ONLINE RENEWAL SERVICE SO THAT COMMISSIONER HUSSEY-BURDICK MERES DON'T HAVE TO-CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE TO MANY IMRO IN THE LOCATION. ALREADY PROVIDED ONLINE PERMIT TESTING AND, KIOSKS CERTIFIES SERVICE PROVIDERS ATTILA SERESS ALSO. CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT. ALSO. CONTINUE CUSTOMER DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO THE LOCATION. FOR NOW, IT'S STILL NECESSARY AND WE NEED THE FUNDINGEL TO ENSURE THAT OUR BACKLOG DON'T GROW, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND BE RESPONSIVE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR THE DIRECTOR? THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. THANK YOU BUDGET CHAIR CORDERO CORE HI DIRECTOR HASHIRO QUESTION ABOUT THE CONTRACT THAT YOUR HOPEFULLY GETTING OUT FOR THE LARGER VEHICLES POSSIBLY EVEN BOATS OR VESSELS. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON IT THIS FISCAL YEAR. I WAS WONDERING WHICH DIVISION WILL IT FALL UNDER AND IF THAT IS IN HERE OR IF IT THAT LARGE INCREASES FULLBACK WILL BE IF CIP U OPERATING BUDGET UNDER THE DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES OR DMV, IN OUR ABANDON VEHICLES SECTION. EL.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. AND WE DON'T, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT CONTRACTELEL TO BE IN THE FISCAL YEAR?

Testifier:EL APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION. AND COST HAS INCREASED. AT ONE TIME, THAT COST COULD COVER BOTH ABANDON VEHICLES LAW ENFORCEMENT TOWING. BUT THIS FISCAL YEAR, COUNCIL APPROVED FUNDING IN HPD'S BUDGET. FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TOWING BECAUSE WE ARE SEPARATING THAT CONTRACT. SO THE COST IS ACTUALLY LNL INCREASED. ALMOST INCREASED OR SORRY, ALMOST DOUBLED W HPD FUNDING AND CSD FUNDING, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT MOVING FORD FORWARD ANY KIND REDUCTION IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSE, THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH. Councilmember Cordero: I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOREL C CSZ? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO CSDEL PAGES 1 AND 2. CSD PAGES 3, 2 AND 3, DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES, FROM THE DEPARTMENT WE HAVE DIRECTOR ANDREW KAWANO. ALOHA AND GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR KAWANO. ER.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING BUDGET CHAIR CH CHAIR WATERSES HONORABLE COUNCILMEMBERS. ANDREW KAWANO DIRECTOR OF BFS BEECHES BFS NUMBER OF CURRENT EXPENSE REDUCTION. BBBFS BFS REMOVED FROM BFS DIVISIONAL TEACHES. BFS BFS I'M GOING TO GOPHER OVER LARGE ONES. WITH RESPECT TO ADMINISTRATION, THERE'S A $10,534 REDUCTION IN CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET. USE TO FUND EXPENSE FOR RISK MANAGEMENT OFFICE. OUR RISK MANAGERS DOING EXCELLENT JOB IN TERMS OF KEEPING OUR INSURANCE COSTS EITHER FLAT OR LOWER. AND HE TYPICALLY GOES TO EUROPE TO MEET WITH OUR INSUREDS LIKE LLOYD OF LONDON, TO EDUCATE THEM ON THE FACT THAT CITY, STATE OF HAWAII HAS ISLANDS SEPARATE THE BY WATER. FROM TIME TO TIME, THERE IS CONFUSION. FOR INSTANCE, IN 2023, DURING THE LAHAINA FIRES. RISK MANAGER GOT CALLS FROM THE INSURERS KENNY INQUIRING ABT FIRE DAMAGE FROM THE FIRES AND HE HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE'RE SEPARATE BY MILES OF OCEAN. SO WHEN HE GOES UP THERE, HE ESSENTIALLY TAKES A MAP OF EXPLAINS HOW EACH OF THE COUNTIES ARE OWE SNGSLY SEPARATED ESSENTIALLY SEPARATE AND IT HAS HELPED A LOT. DOING THAT. BEING PROACTIVE. WITH REGARD TO CGHT AND FISCAL SERVICES, ACCOUNTING, THERE IS A $55,000,, $55,328 REDUCTION TO CURRENT EXIS EXPENSES.

WE EXPEND MONIES WITH REGARD TO OPERATIONS TIED TO PREPARING THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT. THAT INCLUDES COMPLETING ANNUAL AUDIT. THAT ALSO INCLUDES PAYING THE APPLICATION FEE ANY OTHER EXPENSES TO GET THE ANNUAL CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FROM THE GFOA WHICH IS REQUIREMENT TO RETAINER AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR CREDIT RATING. BECAUSE THAT IS CERTIFICATE IS PUT INTO THE APP FOR EVERY YEAR. ON ONE YEAR DELAYED BASIS. SO THAT CONTINUATION THAT WE COUNT ON. WITH REGARD TO TREASURY, THERE'S A REDUCTION OF $194,635. THAT COST IS GOING TO BE TIED TO SYSTEM UPGRADES. AND OUTSIDE OF MAIN TAKES OF OUR STAFF TO INSURE WE GET THE DOWNTOWN BID BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT UP AND RUNNING ON TIME. AND WE BILL AND COLLECT, FEES WITH REGARD TO THE BID AS REQUIRED IN THE ORDINANCE PASSED LAST YEAR. WITH REGARD TO REAL PROPERTY, THERE IS REDUCTION IN SALARIES OF 60,099ER 1. VACANCIES REEL PROPERTY. BUT THEY'RE MAKING TREMENDOUS STRIDES IN HIRING. REAL PROPERTY OF THE 16 VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, ALREADY FILLED 7 THIS YEAR. GREAT PROGRESS AND WE DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING.

CURRENTLY. AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. ALSO, UNDER REAL PROPERTY, THE REAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENT DIVISION, UNDER CURRENT EXPENSE, 9 $5,908 REDUCTION. TO CURRENT EXPENSES. WE NEED THAT BUDGET BECAUSE OUR CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGETEL FUNDS OUR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE COSTS OUR LICENSE COSTS, FOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. ALSO FUNDS ALL OF OUR MAILOUTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO DURING THE YEAR. WITH REGARD TO ASSESSMENTS AND OR TYPE IT'S OF NOTICES THAT HAVE TO GO OUT FROM TIME TO TIME. THIS ONE IS KIND OF SMALL. BUT I WANT TO MENTION IT. BUDGETED ADMINISTRATION, THERE'S A REDUCTION OF $4,697. IMPORTANCE FOR THAT ONE IS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A NEW EXECUTIVE PROGRAM AND BUDGET BOOK PROCESS AND SYSTEM, WE NEED EVERY DOLLAR. THAT WE HAVE. WITH REGARD TO OUR REMAINING CURRENT EXPENSE. AFTER WE HAVE THAT SPEND COVERED. WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY $30,000 TO COVER COSTS RELATED TO DAY TO DAY-TO-DAY EXPENSES. MAKE COPIES FOR INSTANCE, HAVING ANALYST GO OUT TO DIFFERENT CITY OPERATIONS TO TALK TO STAFF AS A PART OF THEIR BUDGET ANALYSIS PROCESS. THAT HAS COST AS WELL. ER WE HAVE TO COVER THEIR TRAVEL COSTS. SO WE DON'T WANT TO CUT OUR CURRENT EXPENSES ANY MORE FOR THAT DIVISION. WE NEED EVERY DOLLAR OF IT. IT'S A VERY SMALL DIVISION.

AND THEN LASTLY, WITH REGARD TO FISCAL CIP, SO THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO HELP TO IMPLEMENT AND SUPPORT BUDGET WITH OPERATIONS. THERE'S A $5,291 CUT TO CURRENT EXPENSES. IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE THAT DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET IS VERY SMALL. I MEAN, DIVISION'S BUDGET IS VERY SMALL. WE UNITED THOSE MONIES UNITED THOSE MONIES TO SUPPORT BASIC OPERATIONAL NEEDS INCLUDING ESSENTIAL SUPPLIES NEEDED FOR THE STAFF. NEED THOSE MONIES TO PERFORM CORE OPERATIONS. SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE THE LARGER ONES WE'RE GOING TO SEND OUT, BFS ISER RESPONSE TO THE CD2, AS APPROVED TODAY. IN WRITING IN A FEW DAYS. TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY I HAVE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR KAWANO. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR BFS? DIRECTOR KAWANO. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ON BFLTS BFS ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS LISTED ON PAGES 2 AND 3. PAGE PAGES 3 AND 4 DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. HAVE WITH US DIRECTOR BRIAN MCKEE KEY. DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH US.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING. BUDGET CHAIR, OKAMOTO. CHAIR WATERS. AND FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS STEPHEN DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY'S FUNDED RESTORATION REQUEST. FOR FERNINGS FISCAL YEAR FY '27. FOR TODAY, WALK YOU THROUGH WHY EACH LINE ITEM IS ESSENTIAL. TO HONOLULU SAFETY, RELIABILITY, AND FUTURE READY SERVICE DELIVERY. I WILL CONCLUDE WITH A CLEAR ASK. THE FULL RESTORATION OF $730,997, ACROSS SIX CRITICAL AREAS. NUMBER ONE REST FUNDRAISING OF CURRENT EXPENSES. FIRST PRIORITY IS THE CITY WIDE TOM MOFFAT 365 MIGRATION MICROSOFT. P25, EMERGENCY RADIO CONSOLE. MARCUS 365 IS 5R8 $.3 MILLION MISDEMEANOR MODERNIZATION EFFORT STANDARDIZED EMAIL COLLABORATION AND SECURITY POLICIES ACROSS EVERY CITY OFFICE. MILLION DOLLARS BY SECURING EMAIL PLATFORM D DRAMATICALLY REDUCE RANSOMWARE AND FISHING ATTACKS CRIPPLE MUNICIPAL OPERATION. EL P25 RADIO CONSOLE ENSURED THAT OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION IS SYSTEM REMAINS SUPPORTED RELINE AND COMPLIED WITH FEDERAL STANDARD. WITHOUT THESE UPGRADES WE RISK LOSS OF CRITICAL VOICE COMMUNICATIONS FOR POLICE, FIRE, OCEAN SAFETY, AND HEALTH AGENCIES. $257,096 WE'R WE'RE REQUESTING FUNDS FOR THE PREPARATORY WORK INCLUDING LICENSING AND MIGRATION SERVICES, REQUIRED TO KEEP THESE PROJECTS ON

SCHEDULE AND PROTECT CITY FROM CYBER THREATS. NUMBER 2, APPLICATION DIVISION. SALARY RESTORATION OF $61,344. APPLICATION TEAM IS DRIVEN BY THE ADA TITLE 2 DIGITAL ACCESSIBLE COMPLIANCE PROGRAM. FEDERAL MANDATE THE GUARANTEES ALL CITY DIGITAL SERVICES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. VACANCIES IN THIS DIVISION WOULD STALL THE WORK SUPPOSING CITY TO EXPOSING CITY TO COMPLIANCE PEN PENALTIES AND LEGAL RISKS. COMPLIANCE PENALTIES RESTORING $61,344 ENSURES WE KEEP THE DEDICATED STAFF THEY NEED TO MEET OUR ACCESSIBILITY O&M GENERAL EDUCATIONS ONE TIME. OBLIGATION ON TIME 3 OPERATIONS DIVISION. SALARIES RESTORATION $56,530. OPERATION DIVISION RUNS DATA CENTER 24-7. COMPUTER OPERATING 2 POSITION IS LYNCHPIN THAT 3407B TORINGS SERVERS PLON TOUAREG. APPLIES PARCH ASnd RESTORE SERVICES INSTANTLY WHEN ISSUES A RIDE RISE. MONITORING. APPLIES PATCHES. RISK UNPLANNED DOWN TIME THAT WOULD, AFFECT EVERYTHING FROM ONLINEFROMMEN PERMITS TO CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEMS. $56,430 STORES EXTENSION STAFFING. NUMBER 4, TECHNICAL SERVICES DIVISION. SALARY RESTORATION OF $71,746. CYBERSECURITY FOUNDATION OF EVERY DIGITAL SERVICE IT WE PROVIDE. THIS DIVISION INCLUDES TWO CRITICAL AREAS. CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICE, RECALL STRATEGIC LEADER DEFINES SECURITY POLICY, OVERSEES INCIDENT RESPOND AND PROTECTS CITY'S DATA ASSETS. CLOUD ANALYST ONE POSITION, RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURING OUR CLOUD ENVIRONMENTS, MONITORING FOR THREATS AND ENSURE

COMPLIANCE U COMPLIANCE WITH OWE VEEFING REGULATION. BOTH POSITIONS ARE INCIDENCE EUR DENNIS PENCE ABLG. EVOLVING. THE RESTORATION FUND, SALARIES AND GUARANTEES CITY MAINTAINS ROBUST DEFENSES GRANT AGAINST RANSOMWARE, DATA BREACHES AN OTHER CYBERA CYBERATTACKS. NUMBER FIVE. ERP/CSR DIVISION. RESOURCE PLANNING, COMPUTER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE DIVISION. SALARY RESTORATION OF $2,099,907. ERP AND CSR PLATFORMS ARE OPERATIONAL HEART OF THE CITY. EVERY AGENCY ATOLL SHARE FINANCIAL PROCUREMENT AND SERVICE REQUEST SYSTEMS. TO KEEP THESE PLATTE FORMS STABLE WE NEED TO TWO IT SPECIALIST 2, ONE PROFESSIONAL TRAINEE 2. TWO CONTRACT IT DUET COMMUNITER PROGRAM 2'S. THESE ROLES DEVELOP MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE ESM RP/CSR APPLICATIONS ANLTSD SIT EMPLOYEES CAN PROCESS PERMITS PAYROLL AND CITIZEN REQUEST WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. FOR THE E.R. P BRANCH, I.T. SPECIALIST 2 POSITION WILL BE DEVELOPED -- PI DARK BOARD IT'S AND REPORTS -- DASHBOARD. AUTOMATION PROCESSES TO HELP MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFICIENT AND ROW DUCK TESTIFIER PROA DUCK TIMPLET. CSR BRANCH UNDER STAFFED IN SUPPORT OF. PRODUCTIVE. IT 28 AGENCIES. AS NOTED IN PREVIOUS AUDIT. RESTORING $209,097 SECURES SECUE CRITICAL STAFF MEMBERS. AND 6, OUR COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK DIVISION. SALARY RESTORATION OF $74,073. COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK TEAM BUILDINGS AN ON RIGHTS FBI OR OPERATION RIDGES, MICROWAVE TOTOWN ANTENNA SITES CITY WADE

AVAILABILITY U CURL AVAILABILITY SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. ENABLES REEL LIMB WILL PUBLIC SAFETY ALERTS POLICE AND FIRE. TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ROAD. AGENT AGENCY EXCHANGE POLICE COMMISSION WORKS PLANNING AND HEALTH. DIVISION ONLY 80%ER STAFFING. PUBLIC HEALTH. $74,073 RESTORATION WILL ALLOWS TO FILL FOUR POSITIONS RESERVING INTEGRITY AND LIABILITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT POWERS EVERY CITY SERVICE. COLLECTIVELY, THESE SIX RESTORATIONS TOTAL $730,997. LESS THAN 1% OF THE DEPARTMENT'S OVERALL BUDGET. YET, EACH DOLLAR DIRECTLY FUNDS POSITIONS OR PROJECTS THAT KEEP HONOLULU SAFE W COMPLIANT AND TECHNOLOGY RESILIENT. IN CLOSING MY FINAL FOUR POINTIER, CYBERSECURITY, FULLY FUND -- CLOUD ANALYST POSITION PROTECT CITY'S DATA AND PUBLIC FACING SERVICES. CONTINUITY, UP TO TOM MOFFAT 365 AND P25 SYSTEMS SAFEGUARD COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. ESSENTIAL FOR AMONG RESPONSE. MICROSOFT 365. COMPLIANCE, STAFFING APPLICATIONS TEAM INSURES WE MEET FEDERAL ADA TITLE 2 REQUIREMENTS. OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. OPERATIONS ERP/CSR AND COMMUNICATIONS THEY WORK TEAM KEEP OUR DIGITAL SERVICES RUNNING SMOOTHLY FOR EVERY RESIDENT AND AGENCY. I RESPECTFULLY ASK CITY COUNCIL APPROVE FULL RESTORATION OF THE $737,997 SO DIT CAN CONTINUE DELIVERING IS SERVICE SECURE RELIABLE AND FUTURE READY TECHNOLOGIES SOLUTIONS FOR THE CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIPTY DIRECTOR. MELLINGS DENTY DIRECTOR. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT? MEMBERS OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY? , OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEMBERS MOVE ON TO PAGE 4. DEPARTMENT OF CORPORATION COUNSEL. I DO SEE WITH US CORPORATION COUNSEL DANA WAIOLA. BEFORE WE GO ON PREPARATION COUNCIL. CHAIR WILL BE HELP SEPING AMENDMENTS TO DIT LIST THE ON PAGES 3 AND 4. ACCEPTING. NUI MAUNAKEA-F MOVING TON TO CON COUNSEL. GOOD MORNING.

Testifier: GOOD MORNING. CHAIR WATERS. AND MEMBERS HONORABLE MOMENTS OF COUNCIL. MEMBERS. DANA WAIOLA CORPORATION COUNSEL. YOU I'LL BE GENERALLY BRIEF. WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS POAFERLS POASMED IN THE CD2. PROPOSED. REDUCTION IN CURRENT EXPENSES OF APPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILLION AND IMPROVEMENT OF OUR ENTIRE PROVISION AJ JUDGMENT LOSSES ACCOUNT TO A DIFFERENT PROVISIONAL WHICH WOULD BE, ESSENTIALLY SUBJECT TO ALL DEPARTMENTS REQUEST PURSUANT TO THAT AMENDMENT. WE HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT THIS WOULD JEOPARDIZE OUR ABILITY TO IS YOU HAVELY OR EFFECTIVELY REPRESENT ALL AGENCIES, COUNCIL, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, EMPLOY AND OFFICER OF THE CITY ACTING IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PROVIDE FOR REPRESENTATION. BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSES AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS GUARANTEED SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO FUND OUR -- NA LOSS. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DO HAVE, AS INDICATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT I DO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE LEGALITY OF THE COUNCIL APPROVAL PROVISIONS OF SECTION 13. OF THE CD2. OF THE PROPOSED CD2. AND THAT IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS MY LEGAL CONCERNS THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. CORPORATION COUNSEL. WAIOLA. ANY QUESTIONS? OR DISCUSSION FOR CORPORATION COUNSEL? COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CHAIR. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS 30% REDUCTION IN CORPORATION COUNSEL. CURRENT EXPENSES. LINE ITEM. AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE NUMBER OF PENDING CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY. SOME OF WHICH HAVE MERITS SOME MAY NOT. THAT'S UP TO CORPORATION COUNSEL. AND LEGAL SYSTEM TO DETERMINE. IN THE INSTANCE WHERE CORPORATION COUNSEL HAS CONFLICT CITY EMPLOYEE, MAKING A CLAIM, OR BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING WE CAN'T ADEQUATELY REPRESENT THEM, WHERE DOES THE FUNDING FOR OUTSIDE COUNCIL COME FROM? DOES THAT COME FROM THIS LINE ITEM?

Testifier: YES, IT DOES. Chair Okimoto: IF WE DON'T ADD AT FUNDING TO PROVIDE FOR OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, W WHAT HAPPENS?

Testifier: HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO FUND THAT. WHEN THIS COME UP, WHEN CITY IS SUED AND THEY NAME NOT ONLY CITY, BUT SPECIFIC EMPLOYEES. A LOT OF TIME HAPPENED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT L LAWSUITS. IF ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES HAS ESSENTIALLY POSITION THAT WOULD RUN CON DRAWER TOY SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES FLAMED IN THE LAWSUIT, OR CON TRAR YOU OUR CITY IN GENERAL. CONTRARY WE HAVE ABLE O GENERAL EDUCATION TO REPRESENT THAT INDIVIDUAL, OBLIGATION. CONFLICT REPRESENT THE ALL OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERING POSITION. SO WE WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO FIND OUTSIDE COUNCIL FOR CERTAIN ESSENTIALLY -- DEFENDANTS.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: WANT A ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS SORT OF REPRESENTATION, THAT CERTAINLY IS A LEGAL RISK FORD CITY AND WITH THAT, FOR THE CITY, TURN THAT INSURANCE RISK FOR THE CITY? Testifier: IT COULD BE. BECAUSE WE CANNOT LEGALLY REPRESENT PARTY THAT IS HAVE CONFLICTING INTEREST. ELEL. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: UNDERSTOODISM WANT TO TURN IT THE JUDGMENT AND LOSSES LINE ITEM THE. I UNDERSTAND CITY PACE FOR INSURANCE. AGAINST LARGER JUDGMENTSES. AND PAYOUTS. ABOVE A SENIOR THRESHOLD. I THINK IT'S 5 MILLION OR 10 MILLION WHATEVER CASE MAY BE. WHERE DOES FUNDING TORE R FOR THAT INSURANCE COME FROM?

Testifier: THAT IS SO THE FUNDING FOR THE -- THAT'S -- I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO ASK KOBAN QUAWNS TO AGENCY THAT QUESTION. ANDREW KAWANO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

Testifier: COUNCILMEMBER ANDREW KAWANO DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. THE PREMIUM FOR OUR INSURANCE PLAN, PLANS, ARE PAID BY THE PROVISION FOR RISK MANAGEMENT. TO THE TECTS ENT THAT WE HAVE TO SELF-INSURE, EXTENT Y SCWRKS WE HAVE AMOUNT THAT, INSURER THAT IS ESSENTIALLY, UNCOVERED, FIRST MILLION DOLLARS LET'S SAY, ROUND NUMBER, THE PROVISIONS FOR CLAIMS AND LOSSES WOULD BE USED, JUDGMENT AN LOSSES WOULD BE USED. WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SELF-INSURE BASED ON THE PLAN.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: UNDERSTOOD. IS THERE SUFFICIENT FUNDING IN THE PROVISION FOR RISK MANAGEMENT TO COVER ADDITIONAL LEGAL RISKS OR ADDITIONAL RISKS ININSURERS SEE IT IF WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR COUNCIL? Testifier: THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS BUT NOT IN THE MAGNITUDE NEEDED FOR SOME OF THE LARGER SETTLEMENT SLEMENT THAT IS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. ME TENSION POTENTIAL SETTLEMEN. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: UNDERSTOOD. Chair Okimoto: FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA.

Councilmember Tupola: OLELO CORPORATION COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. QUICK QUESTION. MENTIONING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ACCOUNT MADE MENTION OF 1.2 MILLION FROM CURRENT EXPENSES. IT'S CURRENT EXPENSES THAT ARE BEING SUGGESTED TO BE TAKEN OUT HERE, THEY ARE RELATED TO OR WILL AFFECT WHAT EXACTLY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? ONE MORE TIME PLEASE. Testifier: AT THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY EFFECT OUR CON STALL CON ASSAULTING SERVICE. CONSULTING SERVICE. CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, ESSENTIALLY TO COVER OUTSIDE COUNCIL, IN PARTICULAR. FOR CASES WHERE PARTIES CONFLICT. Councilmember Tupola: CONSULTING SERVICE AND OTHER AMOUNT THAT YOU REMOTE TESTIFIED TO IS IT PART OF THIS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS BUDGET?

Testifier: SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE BUDGET. BECAUSE THAT IS OUR PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT. FOR J AND L. Councilmember Tupola: 1.2 AFFECTS CONSULTING SERVICES. Testifier: YES. Councilmember Tupola: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. Councilmember Kia'aina: THANK YOU. CAN I ASK WITH REGARD TO THIS IMPACT, COULD THE FAILURE TO SECURE THE APPROPRIATE CONSULTANTEL SERVICES LEAD TO INCREASED LIABILITY FOR THE CITY WITH REGARD TO FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS SHOULD WE BE NOT REPRESENTED PROPERLY, IN LITIGATION.

Testifier: DEFINITELY. YES. IT COULD, BECAUSE WE COULD, IF WE CAN'T HIRE OUTSIDE COUNCIL, TO REPRESENT THEIR INTERESTS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ADEQUATELY REPRESENTED UNDER THE LAW. SO THAT WOULD EXPOSE, IF WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE REPRESENTATION, CORPORATION COUNSEL WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF OUR PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THE AND ESSENTIALLY, WE COULD BE SUBJECTED TO ADDITIONAL PENALTIES. Councilmember Kia'aina: IN PROPOSED DECREASE, IT MAY HAVE THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF INCREASING CITY OBLIGATIONS FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.

Testifier: CORRECT. THAT SENSE, FOR THE GNL2, CAN'T FUND JUDGMENTS AN SETTLEMENTS, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY ENTER INTO SETTLEMENT INTSUNAMI AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD INSTALLMENT INAGREEMENTS IT KO*RPBS MORE COST TO THE CITY. Chair Okimoto: Councilmember Kia'aina: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOVE FORWARD I KNOW THAT ARE ARE, WITH SOME OF T THE HE CONCERNS RAISED ON THE PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT YOU TRIED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, LOOK AT AREAS TO CUT, SO I'M HOPING THAT AS WE MOB FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FD-1, WE COULD HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND UNDERSTAND THE CERTAIN AREAS THAT COULD ACTUALLY HURT US. AS WE MOVE FORTED.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. I DEFINITELY NEED TO BILLION BALANCETY WANTED TO BALANCE IT. LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR AMENDMENT REQUEST AND WE HAD CREATED THE, PROVISION ON THE ACCOUNT, WHERE THE FUNDING WILL GO DEAN E'O AM WILLING TO TAKE DISCUSSION AND MORNING FORWARD. KIA'AINA THANK YOU SO MUCH. Chair Okimoto: Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. THAT IS IT THEORETICAL QUESTION. NOT PERTAIN TO ANYTHING THAT IS HAPPENED IN THE LAST SIX WEEKS. BUT HAS IT BEEN THE CASE THAT AFTER DISASTERS, AFTER FLOODS. AFTER OUR INCIDENTS, THAT THE CITY HAS HAD TO PAY OUT FUNDS RELATED TO THOSE DISASTERS?

Testifier: YES. SO USUALLY AFTER DISASTERS OF THE KIND THAT WE'VE JUST EXPERIENCED, WE RECEIVE A NUMBER OF CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES, RELATING TO TO DISASHTS, AND SOME OF THEM CAN BE RESOLVED THROUGH CLAIMS, SOME OF THEM HAVE TO PROCEED TO GENERAL LITIGATION. AND OF COURSE, IT HAS RESULTED IN EXPENDITURES FROM THE CITY. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THAT KIND OF LITIGATION OFTEN TAKES YEARS. THINKING OF THE EAST HONOLULU FLOODING. IN AINA HAINA. THAT'S YEARS. TO RESOLVE. CORRECT. EL. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LEGAL FEES? Testifier: THOUSANDS?

Testifier: AT LEAST, I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW. MANY THOUSAND. PROBABLY THE BEST I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT. I CAN COME BACK WITH YOU THIS SPECIFIC NUMBER. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: YOU DON'T NEED THAT. POINT HOPE THAT'S POINT STANDS. AFTER DISASTERS, CITY IS OF OFTENEL RECIPIENT OF CLAIMS AGAINST US THE HAVE TO VIGOROUSLY DEFEND THOSE. IF WE'RE FOUNDEL W WANT TO SEL, WE HAVE PAY THOSE OUT. SETTLE,. Testifier: EXACTLY. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. RIGHTING TO FIRST OFF, I DO KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I THINKANT WHAT TO DO JUST ASK IT AGAIN. RELATING TO CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT MAYBE FACE MORE CLAIMS THAN OTHERS AND I WAS WONDERING HOW CAN GET THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE UTILIZE THEIR BUDGETS TO PAY FOR ANY JUDGMENTS AND LOSSES.

Testifier: WELL, THERE IS STATE HAS DIFFERENT MODEL THAN THE CITY. STATE BASICALLY MAKES THE DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LITIGATION THAT INVOLVES DEPARTMENT. THAT COMES OUT OF THEIR BUDGETS. SO THAT IS ALTERNATIVE. TREATMENT. BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE SMALLER. ER IN SCALE. IT HAS BEEN MORE EFFICIENT FOR CORPORATION COUNSEL TO ESSENTIALLY HANDLE ACCOUNTS. AND SO THAT THE PROCESS IS MORE STREAMLINED. AND I THINK IT HANDLED PROBABLY MORE EFFICIENTLY. BECAUSE IT'S IN ONE DEPARTMENT. EL.

Councilmember Cordero: I UNDERSTAND. JUST TO IF I COULD, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN RESPONSE TO NUMBER OF THE SETTLEMENTS AND BECAUSE WE HAVE ON GOING RESPONSIBILITIES, TO ADVISE DEPARTMENTS. IN RELATION TO THE LITIGATION, THAT WE MOST OFTEN SETTLE, WE TRY TO RESPREAD ADDITIONAL ADVICE BASED ON PROVIDE. WHAT OCCURRED DURING THESE LAWSUIT TO TRY TO AVOID FUTURE LITIGATION OF SIMILAR NATURE.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THAT WITH A LOT OF THE LAPSES THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND WITH HPD IN PARTICULAR, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE COULD JUST ASK HPD TO DEDICATE EVEN JUST .05% OF THEIR BUDGET TO GO INTO PAYING SOME OF THESE. THAT IS JUST I SAID THIS TO YOU BEFORE. SAID THIS EVEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SAY IS IT OUT LOUD NOW. I DOTH THINK MY PROPOSED CUTS IT DON'T THINK ARE ACCEPTED PORTION OF THAT, WOULD HELP TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF JUDGMENT AN LOSSES. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. FURTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK AQUICK QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE TRANSFER FUNDS. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE PROPOSED PROVISIONAL TO A NEW OBJECT CODE IN THE CURRENT EXPENSES? Testifier: ARE YOU ASKING IF THE CONTEXT OF THE CD2? Chair Okimoto: YES FOR THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. Testifier: SO CD2 CURRENTLY REQUIRES BECAUSE JUDGMENT AND LOSSES WHAT OUR JUDGMENT AND LOSSES MOVED INTO THIS NEW PROVISIONAL WE WOULD HAVE TO GET RESOLUTION OR APPROVAL, RESOLUTION FOR ANY EXAMPLE COMPEND HE E'O PENNED ENTER FOR JUDGMENT AMOUNTED LOSS. EXAMPLEEXAMPLE EXAM EXAMPLE E P.

Chair Okimoto: POSSIBLE. LEGAL CONCERN? ISSUES IRNTLE I DO HAVE LEGAL CONCERN WAS THE PROCESS. OUTLINED IN THIS CD2. ( EXPENDITURE) I WOULD PREFER TO RESERVE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE WE DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS P FOREL CORPORATION COUNSEL? SAYING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO CORPORATION COUNSEL LISTED ON PAGE 4. EL PAGE 4 DEPARTMENT OF PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICEOF DUI THEN THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY STEVE A ALM. FIB HERE FROM PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? ANYALOHA AND GOOD MORNING.

Testifier: ALOHA. FIRST DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY. TOM. STEVE OFF ISLAND AT THIS TIME. WE JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEEL TEN PERMIT DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY POSITIONS. AND WE WILL WORK WITH YOUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ANY CLARIFYING LANGUAGE CORRECTED. SO THANK YOU. Chair Waters: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? ER COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CHAIR. CURRENTLY WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET IS 245.75 POSITIONS. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS DEDICATING 1.158 MILLION FOR TEN PERMANENT DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY POSITIONS. ARE THERE TEN VACANCIES RIGHT NOW OR IS THIS MONEY IF WENT TO INCREASE THE SALARY COUNT, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS FUNDING? Testifier: WE WOULD PARTIALLY BE ABLE TO THAT. BUT ACTUALLY WE HAVE AS OF TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF TEN OF THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THIS WOULD NOT ADD, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING DOSE DES INTERGOVERNMENTAL NATION WOULD NOT RESULT IN THE NET NEW -- DESIGNATION, NET FLU BODIES BEING AT THE OFFICE. NEW BODY IT'S. Testifier: CORRECT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ER OR DISCUSSION MEMBERS? , OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT TO LISTED ON PAGE 4. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ON BOTTOM OF PAGE 4, AND PAGE 5 DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES, I DO SEE WITH US DIRECTOR NOLAND MIYASAKI.

Testifer: GOOD MORNING ALOHA. BUDGET CHAIR OKIMOTO. COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS. MEMBERS COUNCIL. NOLAND MIYASAKI DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON THE CD2 BUDGET. FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCE. I THINK AS ALL KNOW, DHR VERY SMALL DEPARTMENT RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WHERE ABOUT 990 PEOPLE COMPRISED MOSTLY OF SALARIES. OUR BUDGET WE ARE THE CENTRALIZE HR FUNCTION FOR THE STATE C CITY IMPACT WHAT WE DO IS CITY WIDE AND CRITICAL TO ENABLE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC AND TO OUR RESIDENTS. SO THE CURRENT BUDGET REDUCTION OF $330,000 REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 3.5% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET WHICH IS AGAIN, 90% OR MORE COMPRISED OF SALARY. SO WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL RESTORE CD2 REDUCTIONS FISCAL YEAR '27 BUDGET FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS AND I'LL IF I MAY, I'LL TRY TO GO QUICKLY WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. SO IN THE ADMINISTRATION DIVISION, WE HAVE REDUCTION OF $1,037 CURRENT EXPENSES FUNDING. WHICH WILL HAVE NEGATIVE OVERALL OPERATIONAL CON QUEDGESES FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. CONSEQUENCES, THE ADMINISTRATION DIVISION REALLY DHR DPRIESED OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFICE. COMPRISE THE OF, CITY'S HRIS, FUNCTIONS ENTERPRISE RESOURCES PLANNING OFFICE, WE MANAGE THE ADVANTAGE SYSTEM WHICH IS EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY RECORDS. AND WE MANAGE THAT BETWEEN DIT AND BUDGET AND FINANCE. WE ALSO HAVE THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. SO THE CURRENT EXPENSE FUNDING SUPPORTS ALL OF THOSE

ESSENTIAL OPERATIONS. IN ADDITION TO THE DIRECTOR DEPUTY AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES OFFICES. SO REDUCTION OF $57,850 SALARY FUNDING TO OUR DIVISION WOULD HAVE SEVERE OPERATIONAL IMPACTS. WE HAVE 16 CURRENT AUTHORIZED POSITIONS ACROSS THOSE THREE AREAS PLUS CIVIL SERVICE SUPPORT POSITION. SO 15 OF THOSE ARE FILLED. ONE OF THEM IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR CURRENTLY FILLED BY CONTRACT. PROBABLY SHOWS VACANT. THERE PERSON IN THIS POSITION. REMAINING VACATED POSITION WAS RECENTLY VACANT PROVIDES ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. SO THRL PROPOSED REDUCTION PREVENT US FILLING CIVIL SERVICE SUPPORT POSITION AND MAY ALSO REQUIRE POSITIONS CUTS TO BE MADE TO AT LEAST ONE WARM BODY POSITION. WE REALLY GIVEN THE TYPE AND SMALL NUMBER IN THE ADMINISTRATION. THE BUDGET CUT AND SALARIES WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL SOME OF FUNCTIONS WE PROVIDE FOR THE CITY. EMPLOYMENT AND PERSONNEL SERVICES, THERE IS $4,222 REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR THE CURRENT EXPENSES. THIS IS THE DIVISION THAT IS OUR LARGE ST DIVISION RESPONSIBLE FOR RECRUITMENT, EXAMINATION AND EMPLOYEE TRANSACTION EXAND EMPLOY BENEFITS INCLUDING E.R.S., HAD HE HAD MEDICAL DEFERRED COMPENSATION AS WELL AS RETENTION INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY. THIS IS OUR, ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES FOR THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF IMPROVING HIRING AND IMPROVING RETENTION. AND RIGHT NOW, THE CONCERN NO EVEN THOUGH $4,222 IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT. FOR THIS PARTICULAR DIVISION, IT'S SIGNIFICANT. WE ARE PUTTING ON THE FIREFIGHTERS RECRUITING EXAM

IN FISCAL YEAR '27. AND SO THIS IS BIG EXPENSE FOR US THAT WE NORMALLY DO NOT HAVE. IN ADDITION THINGS LIKE THE CAREER EXPO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS FOR THIS RECENT CAREER EXPO, THE OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THIS DIVISION SO TIGHT, THAT WE HAD TO ASK ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO ADVANCE $7,000 TO PAY FOR THEEL STAR ADVERTISER CAREER FAIR FOR CITY WHILE OTHER DEPARTMENTS REIMBURSED FOR THAT AMOUNT. SO JUST TO HE WILL ILLUSTRATE TIGHT EXPENSES THAT WE RUN ON. REDUCTION OF $126,856 IN SALARY FUNDING WOULD ALSO HAS SEVERE OPERATION IMPACTS. WHICH REQUEST RESTORATION OF THAT AMOUNT. WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS IMPACT SOME OF OUR POSITIONS BUT MAINLY, IT WOULD IN ORDER TO AVOID CUTTING A POSITION THAT HAS A PERSON IN IT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO CUT ALL OF OUR OVER TIME NONHOLIDAY OVER TIME AND ALL OF OUR CONTRACT POSITIONS WHICH ARE CRITICAL TO SUPPORTING OUR LARGE SCALE EXAMS, AND ALSO, TO EFFICIENTLY HIRE, SO IF YOU RECALL, COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ONE OF OUR BIG PUSHES WAS TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY IN DEPARTMENT BY REDUCING AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO HIRE. OUR CONTRACT HIRES WHICH ARE MOSTLY RETIREES THAT WE USE TO EXPAND OUR CAPACITY IN TIMES WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF VOLUME, THAT HAS ENABLE THE US TO CUT OUR HIRING TIME BY MORE THAN 50%. WITHOUT THAT KIND OF CAPACITY, WHEN WE HAVE BOTTLENECKS WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY. WE'RE NOT GOING AS FISS EFFICIENT AS WE HAVE BEENMENT MAIN CONCERN INVEST AID LOT WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT, TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE, HIRING ALMOST TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WE'RE WORKING TWICE AS HALF AS

TWICE AS MORE EFFICIENTLY. AND I JUST ASK THAT WE STAY THE COURSE AND WE KEEP THE BUDGET INTACT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND MAKE MORE PROGRESS FILLING VACANCIES ACROSS THE CITY. ALSO, FUNDING WHEN WE DO THE MAJOR FIREFIGHTER RECRUIT EXAM IN AUGUST, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS THE ON A SATURDAY. WE HAVE TWO OR THREE RUNS OF A THOUSAND TO 1500 PEOPLE FOR THE WHOLE DAY TO HAVE TO GET TESTED. IT'S A PENCIL AND PAPER EXAM. AGAIN, THIS YEAR. WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE ONLINE BUT THERE'S A COST TO THAT. WE DECIDED TO CONTINUE PENCIL AND PAPER EXAM. IT REQUIRES OVER TIME ON ALL OF MY STAFF THAT WORKS ON SATURDAYS AND CONTRACT HIRES. THAT RUNS 10 TO 20,000. IF WE HAVE THIS CUT, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RUN BIG FIREFIGHTER EXAM. IN '27.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MIYASAKI. MEMBERS I DO WANT TO BEER ALWAYS ENCOURAGED DISCUSSION AND I WANT TO HAVE THIS TIME. BUT KNOWING THAT WE ARE A LOT DEPARTMENTS TO GET THROUGH, AND WE'RE NOW 2 HOURS NMPLET I'M GOING TO ASK THE DEPARTMENTS IF CAN YOU LIMIT YOUR INPUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO 3 MINUTES THE TRY TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT. I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT OFF DISCUSSION. IEG ADVOCATE FOR TRANSPARENCY. I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME. Testifier: I UNDERSTAND. Chair Okimoto: I WOULD LIKE TO GO EACH ITEM. EVERY DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD COULD PICK MAIN TOWN I CAN AND TRY TO MINIMIZE TO THE THREE MINUTE TO A TO ALL THE DS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

Testifier: BASICALLY REQUESTING RESTORATION OF ALL BUDGET CUTS THAT ARE IN CD2. RESPECTFULLY, AND JUST ALL YOU HAVE OUR DIVISIONS CLASSIFICATION AND PAY, $9,474. TO OUR SALARY. $40,0$40,000, 6 THREE DOLLARS REDUCTION FUNDING SALARIES INDUSTRIAL SAFETY WORK COMPENSATION. DIVISION IS FULLY STAWED. THAT $40,000 CUT WILL DEFINITELY RESULT 234 STAFFED. CUT THAT AT LEAST ONE POSITION OR REQUIRING EITHER FURLOUGH JORDAN LOWOR PART-TIME WORK FROE STAFF. FURLOUGHS. LABOR RELATION A TRAINING REQUESTING RESTORATION $23,767 CURRENT EXPENSES. AND $95,000ENING, $930 IN SALARIES. BASICALLY, THE CURRENT EXPENSES REPRESENTS 5% CUT TO THEIR BUDGET WHICH IS AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, REPRESENTS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN GRIEVANCES AND AB ARBITRATIONS FOR THE CITY.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION? R FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES? COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: MAYBE NOT DISCUSSION. FOR THIS SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT. BUT IN GENERAL, I BELIEVE THAT THE BFS DIRECTOR HAD STAYED THAT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE RESPONSES AND I WOULD TAKE IT THAT THOSE RESPONDS WOULD BE FOR ALL AGENCIES. CORRECT? RESPONSE CORRECT? I THINK, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAILING. SO MAY MIGHT BE P HELPFUL SAYING RATHER THAN GOING ITEM BY ITEM, PERHAPS EACH OF THE DIRECTORS WHEN THEY COME BACK, UP, SHOULD JUST TALK ABOUT GENERALLY, THE IMPACTS AS OPPOSED TO THE SPECIFICITY, AND I SEE DIRECTOR KAWANO THERE. DIRECTOR KAWANO, CORRECT? BECAUSE SO IF ANY AGENCIES WORRIED THAT WE'RE THE NO GOING TO KNOW EACH NOT GOING TO KNOW EACH ITEM, YOU ARE GOING TO DOCUMENT IT IN A LETTER TO ALL OF US, SO THAT WE COULD BE PREPARED ABOUT WHICH MOVE MOVE TO THE FD-1EL FOR FULL COUNCIL.

Testifier: YES. I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF THE IT WILL BE MEMO THROUGH THE MANAGING DIRECTOR'S OFFICE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR DRAFTS TO HIM IN A FEW DAYS. CORRECTION IS THAT. SO HE NEEDS COUPLE DAYS. MAYBE ABOUT A WEEK. TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING. KIA'AINA KINE WANT TO MAKE SURE EACH AGENCY GOING TO BE REPRESENTED. Testifier: EVERYONE WILL BE REGISTERED KIA'AINA THAT IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL.

Chair Okimoto: I AGREE. MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE PROCESS. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. THANK YOU DIRECTOR KAWANO. THANK YOU DIRECTOR MIYASAKI. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. FOR DHR CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO D HR AS LISTED ON PAGES 4 AND 5. ON BOTTOM OF PAGE 5, AROUND AS WELL AS PAIN 18 FOR THE HONOLULU EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, I SEE DEPUTY DIRECTORELEL IAN SANTI. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEGIN, DEPUTY, IF YOU MISSED IT, ASKING EACH DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF GIVE OVERALL RESPONSE AND THEN WE WILL GET THE DETAILS FROM THE MANAGING DIRECTOR ACE OFFICE.

Testifier: THANK YOU BUDGET CHAIR. CHAIR WATERS AND COUNCILMEMBERS. AGAIN, IAN SANTI DEPUTY DIRECTOR HONOLULU EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. BUDGET CHAIR POINTED OUTER OAHU TO SPEAK ABOUT PAGES 5 AND 18 AFFECT OUR DEPARTMENT. PRETTY MUCH THOSE FUNDING GO TOWARDS POSITION THAT IS I BELIEVE VACANT IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING THEM RIGHT NOWCHT PAGE 35 HEALTH SERVICES. MEDICAL IS TIES E'O ASSISTANCE. PAGE 5. ASSISTANCE OFFICE CLERK PROCESS OF FILLING THAT. ON PAGE, 18, THAT GOES TOWARDS FUNDING TOWARDS SUPPORT OUR CONTRACTS RECALL CORE PROGRAM AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. OTHER THAN THAT, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR DIRECTOR SANTI SNL.

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU. WONDERING, SUPER GRATEFUL FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT IS WERE INCLUDED. BUT SUNSHINE AND EVERYTHINGISM HE THIS IS REALLY ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO TALK STLIEWM OF REASONING AND ANALYSIS SO SOME THROUGH. EVERYONE CAN CONSIDER IT. PUT FORWARD, STAFFING FUNDS FOR DIG ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE UNDERSTANDER WERE EVALUATED IN THE ENTIRE BUDGET WANTED TO ASK YOU, MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT COULD BE DEPLOYED. WHETHER IT BE AAMBULANCE OR SUVs. IF THERE WAS FUNDING FOR THIS STAFFING. WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN SOME YEARS. SOMETIMES WE HAVE FUND BOTH. RIGHT? STAFFING AND AMBULANCE. INCREASE. AND I REALLY ASK BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO INCREASE AMBULANCES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. BUT THEN I THINK EVEN WITH THE RECENT STORM, AT ONE POINT, IN THE HEART OF KONA LOW 2, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY LANDSLIDES THERE ARE TENANT SOME ONE POINT. SO AT ONE POINT. JUST ISOLATION, OCCURS, SK BIN FITS TO ALL OF US, BENEFIT. WHEN WE HAVE MORE FIRST FIRST REAR RESPONDERS PRESENT. PREVENTS AMBULANCE BEING PULLED OUT NORTH SHORE, KAILUA UP TO THE KO'OLAU COAST. HOW MANY VEHICLES WOULD YOU ABLE TO PUT OUT IF STAFFING FUNDING WAS PROVIDED? THAT'S NOT A GOT FULLY INDOORS IT, JUST A FACTOR -- ENDORSE IT,ER LOGISTICAL QUESTION.

Testifier: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND. CURRENTLY DEPLOYED 24 AMBULANCES, 24 AMBULANCES AT PEAK TIME OF DAY ON THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. WE HAVE 21 AMBULANCES. AS WE PASS YOU HAD OUT TO COUNCIL THROUGH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, GAVE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BY THE YEAR 2030. WITHIN THE AT THAT HAVE 30 AMBULANCES SERVE ISLAND OF OAHU. EVERYTHING IS PROGRESSIVE PROCESS. INVOLVES HIRING, RECRUITMENT, HIRING AND TRAINING. TAKES ARRARRANGE 6 MONTHS TO TRAIN AN EMT. PROCESS. AVERAGE OF MONTHS. HAVE ABOUT 18 VACATIONS IN OUR DEPARTMENT. VACANCIES FOR EMS SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE RECRUIT ACADEMY GOING WITH WHICH I WAI WAIANAE HIRED CONTRACT EMTS OUT OF KAPIOLANI COMMUNITY COLLEGE. WORKED TOWARDS VACANCIES COME IF JULY 1, HAVE ANOTHER RECRUIT CLASS STARTING APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 24. OUR ATTRITION RATE WE ARRANGE LOSING ABOUT 24 PEOPLE A YEAR. AVERAGE. WITH THAT GOING ON, IN PACE REAR ACTUALLY AT GUIDE GOOD PACE. KONA LOW STORM DIRECTOR SPOKE ABOUT BRIEFLY, WE WERE ABLE TO USE OUR RECRUITS AND OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES TO ACTUALLY STAFF UP ABOUT ADDITIONAL 2 TO 4 AMANY AAMBULA. NOT THAT, WITH OPENING ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE, DEDICATING STAFF AND PERSONNEL AND VEHICLES AND LOCATION TO IT. BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE EXTRA PERSONNEL ABLE TO WORK AND WE DO EXTRA VEHICLES, BRING UP EXTRA STAFFING. WE DO UP STAFF KNOWING SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. BUT ALSO, TO WE HAVE MINIMIZED OVER TIME AND ABLE TO STAFF WE DO STAFF MORE. SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN I WOULD SAY TWO AMBULANCES MORE WE COULD STAFF ON THE CURRENT BUDGET ALSO. EL.

Councilmember Weyer: COULD STAFF ADDITIONAL TWO IF YOU HAD THE FUNDING FOR STAFF? Testifier: NO. IF WE HAD THE STAFF. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS COME INTO STAFF FACTORS. LEAVE, TRAINING AND SO FORTH. WE WERE ABLE TO UP STAFF AGAIN DURING THE KONA LOW STORM ABOUT 2 TO 4. WE WERE ABLE TO WITHIN THE BUDGET, AGAIN, DID HAVE THE FUNDING, IT WOULD HOE PENGUINSLY HELP THAT. AGAIN POTENTIALLY HELP HAS TO DEVELOP TOWARDS TRAINING GIVE AN EXAMPLE. COUNCIL ADDED FOR ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE, IT TAKES 11 MONTHS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY OPEN THAT ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE. JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.

Councilmember Weyer: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCALING UP AND TIME LINE. GOING INTO VARIOUS FASHION FISCL YEARS. I GUESS IN TERMS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, IN TERMS EXPEDITING, HOW MANY WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO POTENTIAL I WILL STAND UP IF YOU HAD ADDITIONAL STAFF FUNDING? TOLD AT LEAST ONE POSSIBLY TWO. PARAMEDIC SURVELGS INSTEAD. CURCHINGS. Testifier: DIFFERENCE. CURCHINGS. ONE AMBULANCE VERSUS TWO SUVs. MORE APPROPRIATE ANSWER. THAN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SUVs. Councilmember Weyer: APPRECIATE THAT. HIGHER THAN THAT? ASK FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION THAT PER GOING THINK THROUGH THIS MORE. ONLY ASKED FOR ONE. DON'T KNOW IF OTHER FOLKS WANTS MORE.

Testifier: EVERYBODY WANTS MORE. CHALLENGES WE HAVE TODAY WITH STAFFING AND LEAVE AND ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS WE GOING ON TO MANAGE THIS IS E'O THAT'S PROBABLY THE SAFEST ANSWER. WEYER ONE AMBULANCE. Testifier: SPLIT TWO SUVs NOT DISTRICT 2. Testifier: CORRECT. AT RIGHT NOW HAVE A GAME PLAN TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD, BE HAPPY TO TALK MORE OFFLINE WITH YOU FOLKS. EXPLAIN THAT MORE. Councilmember Weyer: MAHALO. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU WHAT YOU ARE FURTHER DISCUSSION? FOR HESD? HEEDS R THANK YOU DEPUTY DIRECTOR. Testifier: THANK YOU CHAIR.

Chair Okimoto: ACCEPTING AMENDMENT TO HIGH SURF ADVISORY AS LISTED ON PAGE 5 AND PAGE 18. HESD. MOVING O PAGE 66 AND BOTTOM OF PAGE 17. PAGE 6 ADOPT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. I DID SEE WITH US DIRECTOR, GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR. GOOD AFTERNOON I'M SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTOR DAWN TAKEUCHI APUNA.

Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE RESTORATION OF FUNDS. IN THE CD2 WE CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR FULL RESTORATION WHEN WE CAME IN WITH YOUR O BUDGET, WE HAD ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT CUTS ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO ADDITIONAL CUTS OF THIS SORT THAT ARE STILL IN THE CD2, WOULD BE VERY NEGATIVELY IMPACTEDFUL TO OUR DEPARTMENT. I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A COUPLE. ALL OF OUR IMPORTANT BUT COUPLE I WOULD WANT WANT TO HIGHLIGHTED. UNDER ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS IT $2,004,460,000 THAT HAVE BEEN CUT. THAT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT THE BILL 7 GRANTS. PRE AND POST CONSTRUCTION GRANTS. 2,000,460, THAT COULD AFFECT SOME MUCH THE DEVELOPMENTS BILL 7 DEVELOPMENTS. IT WOULD ALSO AFFECT OUR ADMINISTRATION OF FURTHER IMPLEMENTATION AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR PLATFORMS, TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THEREBY IMPACTING PERMITTING CHT SO SAME SITE DEVELOPMENT. PLANNING AND CUSTOMER SERVICES CONTINUE TO BE CUT THAT WILL AFFECT OPERATIONS. I BO JUST MENTION CUSTOMER ISERI VISION DIRECTLY RELATED TO PERMITTING. CUSTOMER SERVICE. CUTS IN S SALARIES WOULD AFFECT PERMITTING. WITH THAT I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECT. PUNAHOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? FOR THE DIRECTOR? DIRECTOR APUNA. I HAD A QUICK ONE. IN NOMENT JUST FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. WITH IT COMES VACATION E'O VOLCANICS HASN'T BEEN A TOPIC OF INTEREST MANY VACANCIES FOR MUCH THE COUNCIL, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW,EL COULD YOU, I YOU MADE CUTSEL ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAD TO MAKE THOSE CUTS. A LOT OF THEM NUMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED RIGHT NOW FOR SALARIES. WONDERING HOW YOU HAVE WHAT IS THE STATUS OF YOUR FILLING OF VACANT POSITIONS?

Testifier: SO WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES. I THINK WE'RE AROUND 20% VACANCY RATE AROUND THERE. EVEN WITH AS WE CONTINUE TO HIRE, WE USE SOME OF THAT SALARY SAVINGS IN DIFFERENT AREAS. VERY EFFICIENT OVERALL. ABOUT HOW WE WOULD USE THE MONEY AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. Chair Okimoto: SALARY SAVINGS IS NOT BEING USED, IT'S BEING USED OTHER AREAS NOT NECESSARILY SALARIES?

Testifier: THAT'S RIGHT. SO IF WE WANT TO HAVE THESE POSITIONS AND TO FILL THEM, IT'S NOT, CHALLENGE WE WANT TO HIRE AND WE WANT TO BE FULLY STAFFED BUT AS THINGS WORK OUT, THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL USE THE USE THE SALARYS IN OTHER AREAS AS NEEDED. Chair Okimoto: OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW THE THESE SPES IRNLG CUTS WOULD AFFECT SPECIFIC CUTS WOULD AFFECT INFILL PROGRAM.

Testifier: SURE. HE WE HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED, PREVIOUS YEARS, IT WAS 5 MILLION PER YEAR. FOR THE PRE AND POST, POST CONSTRUCTION GRANTS. NOW, PRE, SO 5 MILLION PER YEAR. FOR THIS BUDGET, WEEL SPLIMMED O SLIMMED IT DOWN NOW. WANTED TO DO CUT. 4 MILLION ORIGINALLY REQUESTED. AND SO I BELIEVE FROM THIS CURRENT CD2, IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL ABOUT 1 MILLION REDUCED. SO WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH $3 MILLION FOR PRE AND POST CONSTRUCTION GRANTS. Chair Okimoto:

Councilmember Weyer: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA UNIT LOSS. PROPOSED WITH UNIT LOSS. GOING DOWN AGAIN. Testifier: SO I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY, PROJECTIONS AS BEST AS WE CAN, MEDICARE MAKE VERY CLOSE JUST BASED ON THE HAD MILLION. COULD MAKE. REDUCE ANOTHER 1 MILLION. P BASED ON 4 MILLION. P APPLICATION MIGHT HAVE TO TURN AWAY WARY HOUSING MIGHT OTHERWISE GO UP WOULDN'T HAVE FUNDING TO PROCEED WITH PENCILING OUT WITH THIS IF I CAN PROGRAM. Testifier: RIGHT. NOT BE BE ABLE TO FNLTS FINANCE WEYER THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. MIGHT U MIGHT NONE ABLE TO FINANCE. P.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: FOLLOWING UP. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY PENDING POST, OR PRECONSTRUCTION GRANT A.M. GRANTAPPLICATIONS OUT THERE. Testifier: RIGHT NOW, APPLICATIONS THAT WE OPEN IT UP, STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE PROCESS, GOING TO MEET WITH TITLE GUARANTY SOON. SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE MAYBE HANDFUL RIGHT NOW OF PRECONSTRUCTION I WOULD SAY LESS THAN FIVE. THAT ARE BEING LOOKING TO APPLY. MAYBE 3 OR SO. HAVE ALL INIT TENSION TO SET UP WITH TITLE GUARANTY YOU ALL INTENTION. TAKING THOSE APPLICATIONS START MO MOVING ON THEM.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE THE PRY CONSTRUCTION GRANT PROGRAM IF YOU TAKE PER UNIT COST AND KIND OF AVERAGE BILL, 7, NUMBER OF UNITS PER PROJECT, FIVE PROJECTS, THAT IS COULD FOLKSY CONSUME POTENTIALLY CONSUME MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALLOCATE THEM THIS YEARMENT I RECALL THAT STATE WANTED TO PROVIDE MATCHING FUNDS IN SOME WAY. FOR THESE GRANTS. COULD YOU GIVE US UPDATE ON THAT?

Testifier: SO THE PREVIOUSLY, THEY DID PROVIDE MATCH. 5 MILLION LAST YEAR, THEY WOULD MATCH 5 MILLION. WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH STATE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT NUMBER ONE, THEY WILL MAX. WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DECIDES ON. AND NUMBER 2, THAT IT INCLUDES PRECONSTRUCTION GRANTS RULES NOW SPECIFIC TO POST CONSTRUCTION. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: REDUCTION HERE WOULD IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO BE BE A AJ ASSESS STATE FUNDS U YES. ONLY MATCH UP TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY DECIDE AS A BUDGET. ACCESS STATE FUNDS.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I OFFICER INFEEL LIKE I'M HARD ON THE DEPARTMENT. OFTEN FEEL. IN THIS CASE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THESE CUTS WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEFUND YOU IN THIS. 19% CUT PROPOSED FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION. PLAN DOING DIVISION QUITE BURDENED. TAKE U TALK ABOUT THEM NUMBER DIFFERENT THINGS PAINT A PICTURE OF HOW 19% CUT AFFECTS THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING? SAY ON NORTH SHORE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, GOING RIGHT NOW, ON ON THE T.O.D. PLAN. WHICH WE LEARNED ISN'T GOING TO COME TILL 2031 FOR DOWNTOWN.

Testifier:EL YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THOSE CUTS WOULD AFFECT ALL OF THAT TIME OF WORK. AND WE IN THE LAST YEAR, WE DID DO SHORTAGE FOR PLANNERS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT MORE AND WE FINALLY ARE BEGINNING TO THAT. SO CUTTING AT THIS POINT WOULD KIND OF GO AGAINST EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS ON. AS FAR AS PLANNERS IN THAT AREA AND ALL OF THE PLANNING WORK THAT IS REQUIRED YOU. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. Testifier: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. ME IT'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OUR DISCUSSION? FOR DPP?

WOULD LIKE TO ADD OUR CONCERNS, ARE ALSO ON PAGE 17. AND WE WOULD JUST ADDRESS THAT NOW. LET YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO SAY BUT THAT TO OUR CONCERNS FOR THOSE CUTS ARE THE SAME AS ON PAGE 6. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Testifier: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: Councilmember Kia'aina: DID YOU ADDRESS PAGE 17? Testifier: YES. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. Councilmember Kia'aina: ABSOLUTE. AND OKAY. SO CAN I MAKE A COMMENT NOW? Testifier: YES.

Councilmember Kia'aina: THAT YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO SAY THAT I MR. CONCERNED ABOUT CUTS AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WITH THE FD-1, AND SEE THE MEMO COMING FROM THE MANAGING DIRECTOR, WE WILL I WILL CRAFT MY FD ACCORDINGLY. WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC POSITION, WHICH HAS TO WITH EDUCATIONAL LOAN, FORGIVENESS PROGRAM. I'M GOING TO FIGHT OF COURSE, FOR ITS RETENTION. I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OWL E'O ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME NOT BECAUSE I'M ZONING CHAIR, BUT BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT JUST REGULAR JOBS THAT I'M TARGETING. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BACKLOG IN DPP'S PERMITTING DIVISION WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE DONE YOUR BEST TO IMPROVE, WITH REGARD TO EFFICIENCY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE TO SAY THAT SIMPLY WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO TRY TO COME, THAT ARE QUALIFIED, SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERS IS NOT ENOUGH AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO GET THERE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ALREADY TALKED TO AGAIN, HGEA, I TALKED TO THE CATS CATSEL FOUNDATION. $2 MILLION PROGRAM. CASTLE FOUNDATION. FOR LOANS, FOR ENGINEERS. WORKING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AS MANOA ENGINEERING. PROGRAM. AND THEY'RE HELPING ENGINEERS IN GENERAL AND I ASK THEM FOR KOKUA TO PIVOT A LOT OF THEIR ENGINEERS HOSPICE LUCKY FOR. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S JUST ABOUT DPP. IT'S ABOUT THE IMPACT TO BOTH HOMEOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS OUT THERE. WHO ARE FINANCIALLY P IMPACT #-D BECAUSE OF THAT DELIGHT AND I FEEL THAT IMPACTS OVERALL ECONOMY. SO OUT OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE PROPOSED, WHICH WASN'T A LOT, THIS IS MY HIGHEST PRIORITY. THANK YOU.

Testifier: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. KIA'AINA. CHAIR WATERS.

Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MEMBERS I WANT TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS 33 FOR 2026. WE BASICALLY LAID OUT ALL OF THE LEAVENED LAPSED FUNDING FOR EACH DEPARTMENT. AND JUST FOR DPP, AND FY '2024, LAPSED $11,232,870. 2024, 2025, DPP LAPSED $9,180,411 AND 53 CENTS. WITH REGARD TO, THE PLANNING, SINCE THAT CAME UP, PLANNING DIVISION THEMSELVES LAPSED $1,005,997,707.71ED IN FY '24. AND FY '25, PLANNING DIVISION, LAPSED $1,100,205.9 ZERO DOLLARS. SO AT MONEY THAT IS BEING PUT INTO PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT, CAN STILL BE ACCESSED BY THE STRAYING. IT'S NOT GONE. SO IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT LAPSES EVERY YEAR. STARTING TO USE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE. EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IS LAID OUT IN COUNCIL COMMUNICATION 33. JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT. THANK YOU. IT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. I WANT TO THE CLARIFY. I KNOW SOME NUMBERS ARE THROWN OUT EARLIER. THAT FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION, ACTUALLY NOT 20 FIRST. 4.8 PSHES CUT. JUST TO BE CLEAR. % CUT. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM? Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. SHOULD HAVE, I LOOKING AT THE WRONG COLUMN FOR THAT. WITH REGARD TO MOVING THIS MONEY PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT, COULD IT BE ACCESSED BY THE PLANNING DIVISION OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE RELATED TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE? Testifier: CURRENT OPERATIONS. BY COUNCIL REECE HES ARE RESOLUTION THEREAFTER. Testifier: YES.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: OKAY. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT? OR DISCUSSION? COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS. Councilmember Waters: CALLED PROVISION FOR OPERATIONS. AND EMERGENCY ACTIVITY. SO OPERATIONS IS ALL ENCOMPASSING. BUT THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE DEPARTMENT? OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, FOR DPP, THE CHAIR WILL BE RECOMMENDING ESTABLISHMENT HE MA'AMS TO DPP LISTED ON PAGES 6 AND PAGE 17. AND JUST FOR THE MEMBERS, MEMBERS INFORMATION, AND FOR THOSE I THINK WAITING IN THE ADMINISTRATION, AS WELL AS TESTIFY TEF R TESTIFIERS NEXT DEPARTMENT IS DMPLE. GOING THROUGH THAT. DFM. TAKE QUICK BREAK. I KNOW THAT TIME OF THE ESSENCE. QUICK BREAK AT THAT TIME MUCH AND WE'LL RECONVENE I WILL STATE THE TIME AFTER DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. IS DONE. MAUI WILDFIRING ON TO TOP OF PAGE 7, MOVING ON. TOP OF PAGE 8, AS WELL AS PAGES 18 THROUGH 20, GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND HIGHWAYS STREETS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. WE DO HAVE WITH US DIRECTOR OF CHIEF ENGINEER GENE ALBANO.

Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON BUDGET CHAIR OKIMOTO. CHAIR WATERS. COUNCILMEMBERS. FIRST OFF, LIKE TO JUST SIMPLY SAY TEN YEAR AS DIRECTOR, I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS DEMONSTRATED REASONABLE A EFFECTIVE PROGRESS COMMITTEE ON RESPONSIBILITY AND STEWARDSHIP. AS SUCH, OUR FISCAL YEAR '27 BUDGET PROPOSED BUDGET, DOES ACCOUNT FOR RIGHT SIZING OUR DEPARTMENTS BUDGET. THAT HAS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR REDUCTION IN SPITE OF LAPSING FUNDS. I'M HERE TO TESTIFY SEEKING COUNCIL ATOLL RECONSIDER FULL RESTORATION OF PROPOSED REDUCTIONS IT CURRENT EXPENSES AND SALARY FUNDING. GIVEN CURRENT AROUND GEOPOLITICAL STATE, WE ANTICIPATE INCREASED COSTS OF MATERIALS, SUPPLIES, AND SERVICES THAT WILL ADVERSERY HAMPER OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE CORE SERVICES WITH THE REDUCTION IN CURRENT EXPENSES. SIMILARLY, DOUBLE REDUCTION OF SALARIES MORE ERNEST EFFORTS TO CONTINUE TO RESTORE OUR WORKFORCE. AS SUCH, I'M OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MEMBERS MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR ALBANO. MEMBERS QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. Councilmember Tupola: WANTED TO MAKE MENTION DIRECTOR. THAT IT WAS TAKEN OUT FOR THE CAL CATTLE GATES WORKING ON ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BECAUSE PERSON TO THIS PERSON GETTING IT DONE. THANK YOU DMPLE. THANK YOU CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. DFM BEFORE I TURN ON WITH QUESTIONS FOR DFM I DID FORGIVE ME, I'M GOING TO IS INTEREST DDC COME UP BEFORE WE TALK OUR BREAK. HAVE. ON THE SAME PAGE. COUNCILMEMBER WEYER DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR ALBANO?

Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST COMPONENT. ONE MAMOA YOU. DOESN'T INOUYE IF MD IS HERE. DON'T KNOW IF MD IS HERE. MAYBE. JUST FOR THE WORK GOING ON, GETTING TEXTS THIS MORNING FROM OTAKE CAMP. GRATEFUL FOR THE A STANCE. DFM IS PROVIDING TO E&V FOR THAT DEBRIS REMOVAL SAME WITH THE RESIDENTS ON HOW OWN A STREET. ALL IT EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT WORK IS NOW MOVED ON TO THAT SIDE OF THE THE BRIDGE HONE IN CO-OWN STREAM. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND FRIENDSHIP WITH HDOT AND MAHALO. Testifier: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. C Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. IT FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF DFM? , SEE FURTHER DISCUSSION, OR QUESTIONS. THE CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DFM AS LIPID ON PAGE 7. PAGE 8 AND PAGES 18 THROUGH 20. LISTED) ALSO ON PAGE 18, I WILL BE REJECT FIRST PROPOSED AMENDMENT AMENDMENT ROAD MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY WHICH ADDS 20 FTE AND APPROPRIATES $1,065,800 OUT OF SALARIES FOR STREAM MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTION AND SUBSTITUTING NEW INMATE WAS DISTRIBUTED THIS MORNING SUBSECTION NEW MA'AM, REDUCE NUMBER OF FTEs BY TEN AND REDUCES AMOUNT OF APPROPRIATION BY $435,800. AMENDMENT) ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? FOR THE FTEs ON PAGE 18. JUST REDUCING IT FROM 20 TO TEN. AND THE AMOUNT AS WELL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? KIA'AINA THE NO QUESTIONS MAKE SURE JUST THAT, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONCERNS.

Chair Okimoto: CORRECT WHOLE DAY AHEAD. THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE HAVE ACCEPTED DFM. MOVING BACK TO PAGE 7. THANK YOU AGAIN DIRECTOR FOR BEING HERE. ON THE TOP OF PAGE 7, SORE. Vice Chair Nishimoto: PAGE 7 AND TOP OF PAGE 8. GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE WITH US DIRECTOR DIRECTORMILLES HAKU MILLES.

Testifier: GRAVITY THANK YOU BUDGET CHAIR. HAKU MILLES DIRECTOR DISIENL AND CONSTRUCTION. DESIGN THANK YOU FOR TO OPPORTUNITY TO ER OAHU. PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON THIS. WE WERE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST REINSTATEMENT OF THE REDUCTIONS TO SALARIES AND CURRENT EXPENSES AS YOU KNOW, THESE KINDS OF REDUCTIONS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE OUR ABILITY TO EXECUTE CATTLE MOVEMENT PROJECTS ON BEHALF THE CITY. WE CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY RECRUIT, HAVE NEW EMPLOYEE I JUST MET TODAY. HER FIRST DAY. WE'VE HAD NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. MAKING OFFERS TO TWO ACIALGHT CT AINGS NEXT TWO WEEKS. ARCHITECT,. OVER OUR TRACK RECORD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS SHOWN HOW SUCCESSFUL WE CAN BE AND SO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST REININSTALLMENT. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. REINSTATEMENT. QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION FOR OUR DIRECTOR? TAAT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. CARRY WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DDC LISTED ON PAGES 7 AND 8. THEY MEMBERS PRESENTS THANK YOU VERY MUCH DIRECTOR MILLESES. Testifier: THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE TAKING A LITTLE BREAK. IT IS NOW 12:50. WE WILL TAKE A BREAK NOW AND RECONVENE AT 1:30. CONTINUE ON WITH PUBLIC SAFETY FROM HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, AT THIS TIME, RECESS. (RECESS).