Community Redevelopment Agency - Regular Meeting

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Alright. I know that board member Kaleri will be here. She'll just be here late, we'll acknowledge her attendance as soon as she walks in. Any conflict disclosures today? Hearing none, let's go ahead to 9AM citizen comments.

I had a feeling that single card would be Bob Glickman. Come on up, Bob.

Good morning, everyone. Hope everybody is doing great. I see we have new reserve things on these benches here. Since I'm at all the meetings, I'm requesting to get one for myself in the back there, if that's possible. But anyway, I digress. Well, the candy cane parade was great. Some people said it was the best ever. Really appreciate what was done there this year. A couple items to take care of. There are some potholes on the Hollywood Beach Bridge.

Okay, I've been trying to get somebody to fix these for a while. They're on both sides of the span of the drawbridge. I'm concerned about the metal getting bad in between. And we have the bridge closed down, so maybe somebody can fix that. I'd like to talk to you about recently, my building applied for and got a grant for the Broadwalk Paint Project that they had for the commercial businesses. So we finished a project. We submitted all the paperwork back in the September, October. We still don't have a check for that. Every time we speak to somebody, well, they're processing the check. You get it in two weeks.

You get it in two weeks. Now, we're in the middle of almost December now. It would be nice if we can get that check before year end and close out our books as well. So I just want to bring it to your attention. I don't know where else to go with this, so just to let you know. One thing that we've discussed at the beginning of the year I hate to bring it up again, but flat gates, check valves, Wipro valves, they need maintenance. They need to be repaired. They need to be replaced. It's not being done. We still have flooding. And the water is rushing in. We can talk about sea level rise. We could talk about the water table rising. Nonetheless, these gates need to be fixed. Nothing is being done.

Nobody's working on them. I was hoping that the secretary from FDOT would be here today to address some of these problems that you've been talking about for months and months and years and years and years Because the underground A1A drainage system needs to be repaired and replaced also. That's not being done. So the pipes are cracked. Everything is broken. Water is just rushing in from all over. So we problems that and I know it's not you, but we need to bring this to the forefront. Everybody needs to know about it. We need to keep bringing it up, moving forward with it. That's it for that.

Hopefully, we don't have to go through this again next year. But lastly, and in closing, I just wanted to wish everybody here on the dais in the audience at home, happy holidays to everybody. Appreciate everything you're doing. Keep up the good work. Let's go Panthers.

All right, Bob. Thank you. I let the record reflect that board member Colari is in attendance. Consent items five through seven are approval of previous meetings minutes. Any requests from the dais? Motion

to approve. Second.

Motion to approve the consent agenda from board member Shuham, second from board member Kalari. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, those items carry unanimously. Today's regular agenda has two items. One is an update on the status of the Harrison Street streetscape project, and the second will be the results of the storm water and sustainability analysis for the beach. And so we're looking forward to both. Bob, that'll address some of your questions. So look out for item number nine. So let's go ahead with item number eight, mister executive director, regarding the update on the status of the Harrison Street Streetscape Project.

Well, appreciate that. Good morning, the chair, vice chair, and board members. I'm going to let Susan do that and introduce some of the staff to give us some of the updates. But as you mentioned, really important two major, major projects in terms of both downtown and the beach, the Harrison Streetscape Project, which is actually a little bit ahead of schedule. And obviously, we've got a lot of talk about storm water on the beach. So Susan, go ahead. Thank you.

Good morning, Mr. Chair, Vice Chair, and Board members. Susan Goldberg, for the record, Deputy Director, Hollywood CRA. We're going to have a presentation today on the Harrison Street Streetscape Project. The contractor is here.

Nick Fasullo, who is the project manager, will provide an update on the construction and activities. And Francisco Diaz, who's the senior project manager from the CRA, will have an introduction as he's been managing construction scheduling revisions based upon input from the community. One of the things I did want to highlight is that as part of input from the community, we have introduced a valet on Harrison Street at 19th Avenue, which I think is well received and was requested by the businesses. And so they're real happy with that. And with that, I'll introduce Francisco Diaz. Thank you.

Good morning, chair, vice chair, board members. Francisco Diaz, senior project manager with the Hollywood CRA. So before Burkhart provides an update on construction, we just wanted to go over a few changes to the construction phasing plan that took place between October and November. As it is typical from Burkhart, we normally host a monthly coffee with the crew with the business community. And at the October 28 meeting, the business community requested modifications to the original phasing plan that got approved in early July.

And they had asked us to look into moving some phases to reduce disruption to the restaurants during the peak season. Berhard Construction prepared several options, addressing their taking on the feedback that they received from the business community. And these alternative construction phasing plans were presented to the business community on November 12. In black, I have the original phasing plan that had construction starting on the East End of Harrison Street, with phase one being on the South side between 19th and Young Circle, phase two the North side. And from there, were going to move to the 19 100 block between 20th and 19th.

Phase three was going to be the South side, phase four the North side. And then they will move to the 2,000 block starting on the South and moving to the North. Based on the feedback from the community, Bergher is still working on they've completed phase one, and they're working on phase two as we speak. And they're going to move to the south side of the 2,000 block. And that will change from phase five to phase three. From there, will go back to the 1,900 block north side. Then they will do the south side. And they will finish on the north side of the 2,000 block. With that, I'm going to ask Nick to come up and provide an update on construction.

Good morning chair, vice chair, commissioners. Thank you for having me. My name is Nick Fassula with Burkhart Construction. I'm also here with Adam and Mark with Burkhart Construction. I am the project manager on this project.

To start, so this is a Harrison Street project update presentation. Project phasing overview and schedule update, the project is divided into six construction phases coordinated in advance with the CRA and the merchant community each phase represents a defined block of work within its planned start and end window during active construction the roadway may be closed during the day when needed but is reopened after four p. M. Each after as each block is completed it is immediately reopened for public use throughout all the phases. Pedestrian access remains open at all times with safe pathways maintained around the work zone.

Our upcoming schedule, right now we're on phase two which is between 19th And Young Circle on the north side of the roadway and then after phase two is completed like Francisco described we're gonna go up to phase three which is on the South Side Of Harrison between 21st and 20th. Phase one was on the South Side Of Harrison between 19th And Young Circle. It began on September 29 and was open on November 20. Some of the items included demolition of existing pavers, demolition and removal of existing concrete bands, installation of new modified irrigation system, restoration and regrading of the base rock construction of new tree pit header bands installation of new bollards and installation of new pavers throughout the block some of the remaining items to be completed in this in the phase one block we still need to complete the new landscaping installation of light poles they're anticipated to arrive sometime in March 2026 and installation of crash rated bollards. It's just some photos of the work in phase one.

As you see, we've set up some pedestrian barriers on the backside of the sidewalk, still allowing pedestrian access to all the businesses. We build the front side. And then as we move along, we slowly install pavers through the block and open it up as we move, keeping access to businesses at all times. Phase two is 19th Avenue to Young Circle on the north side. It began on the November 21 and is currently in progress.

Work underway right now is demolition of the existing pavers and concrete bands. We're forming new concrete header bands, installation of new bollards, trenching a new conduit for future festoon lighting. Some upcoming work, which has already started, is the installation of the new pavers, header bands, bollards, and conduit. Just some pictures of the phase two construction right now. Our resident outreach and coordination, merchant coordination is ongoing throughout the project.

Before work begins in front of any business, we communicate directly with the affected merchant regarding access, deliveries, anticipated and any other anticipated impacts. We provide weekly and biweekly look ahead schedules to the CRA who then post them to the project website. And we also hold monthly Coffee with the Crew meetings. Does anyone have any questions?

The phase one? Any photos? Oh, I'm sorry. I was writing something on paper, I was looking down for a minute.

On the right hand side of the slide, you can see just some of the photos of when the pavers were completed. Right now, we still have some pedestrian barriers around the Royal Palms there. Once we get some of the new trees in, we're going to then install some flexi pave over the new trees and Royal Palms.

Just a quick question. When you get to the longer blocks after phase two, when you get to phase three, will the work be the entire block at once or will it you know proceed you know East West

it's going to be the entire block at once we'll build basically from the edge of the trees towards the roadway get all that completed, and then start installing pavers along the backside, moving along, and opening up sections as we move along.

Is there anything from what the city's required that would slow you down in terms of days of operation, times, hours, anything that not allowing this to go as quick as possible? I think the pace has been pretty good. But just asking if there is anything that we can do to help speed things up.

Not at the moment. We're tracking ahead of schedule, you know, still closing the road when we need to, but at the end of the day, you know, getting it back open. We do keep the parking closed along that side. That helps us because we have to store material while we're working through that area. CRA has been great, everything's working out.

Board Member Hernandez.

JERRY Thank you, mayor. We have not received complaints from the business regarding the construction that's being done other than the average question. They've been very good when it comes to Coffee with the Crew. The CRE director has been there. Our CRE director to be has been there. One of the questions that I have is the statement was a phase one is completed when in fact there's still remaining issues to take place, the electric light pole, the crash bollards. When do you expect that to be done? How much is that area going to be affected once that work is going to be done? In other words, for how long? And is that going to be in contrast with some of the other faces that you have?

My understanding is that the reason why that has not been completed. So it's basically 85%, 90% completed. But there's going to be some disruptions coming up. Is that going to interfere? Are you going to do that at the same time you do in phase two, for example?

So for the light poles, the light poles are going back in the same location as they currently are. Once the light poles come in with the new bases, we will basically section off those little areas where the light poles are and we'll come through and install the new bases in a few days and then install the light poles right after. So at this time we don't have a current schedule on when those are going to be installed. Once they all arrive, we'll put together a schedule and let each block know, you know, we'll be through this area for a week or a week and a half installing the light poles. Once the bollards arrive as well or once everything gets approved with the bollard, the crash rated bollards, we will put together a schedule on each individual bollard or each corner because again we don't want to totally shut down the block again.

We'll work to do one side of the block, install the crash rated bollard along with another block, and then come back and restore.

So And I know it's not money or the work. It's the fact that here we have a sidewalk that is very nice and finished right now. And then we're going to have to tear it back up and put the structures back in it. You just mentioned one of the concerns that I have and some of the businesses have is, if you have the phase two, which is basically right now across the street from you just finished phase one, and you have to close the streets, are you going to close only one side at the time? I know you got electric poles structures that are going be put in.

And you're going to have the poles that are coming right after that. So you're going to need to close some kind of access, not just to that little area. But the poles have to commence, so the road's going to have to be closed. And so far, there's been no complaints. We just want to address some of the concerns that are being asked that are you going to close the street completely at that time because you're working right across the street from that.

No. It'll be done at a more

So if need be, you will hold the work on one side just to focus on this.

Correct.

I just want people to realize that you're cognizant of what's happening and what's going to take place. And some of the questions are, if you just finish the sidewalk, or some of the statement, if you just finish the sidewalk, why are you tearing it up again? The fact is, based on what I'm being told, they don't have a choice. Either it's that or hold off with the open sidewalks, which we don't want. But sometimes they just think the government is not doing the right thing. And this case happens to be because we need approvals and we need the parts to come in and they're not here. I just wanted

to make that. And hopefully in future phases, once the polls are in and we get approvals It'll

all be done at the same time.

All be done at the same time.

Thank you. Yes. So for the security bollards to this point, the excavation and the removal of a certain square footage of pavers to put in a bollard and its footer is going to be what, like a five by five area that you're going to be removing?

Yeah, you know, it might be a little bigger than five by five, you know, kind of like what one of those tree pits are right now, you know, we'll secure it around like a maybe like a 10 by 10 area, You know, we'll So

at that phase, what you'll probably have is, you know, the barriers will just be around that little notch, but not necessarily closing off the entire length of the sidewalk, right?

Correct.

Yeah. Okay. Well, that'll be at least a little less disruptive. Yeah. All right. I just wanted to get that out there for anybody listening. And so for Board Member Biederman, let's go ahead.

So my concerns also are about the bollards and why we're going back to do it instead of doing it all in one shot. But I guess I'm hearing that we just don't have them yet. So by the time we get to phase three or four, we're going to have them. So they're going to be done in one shot as opposed to having to go back to redo something?

We do have possession of them. They are working on being approved through the building department.

So then that answers the mayor's question. What could we do to speed up the process? And I think George and Ray Lynn are hearing clear that our billing department needs to prioritize getting these bollards approved so that we don't have torn up sidewalks all the time, right?

Francisco may have some more information on that. They're working with the company to come up with the foundation for them.

We've been talking about these bollards for like a year already. We thought we were going to go do them on a Hollywood Boulevard, but we decided to hold off because we're waiting till after the season for Hollywood Boulevard. But now you're telling us that we can't even get them on Harrison Street in the middle of a construction project.

And we have possession of them, is what you're saying.

We do.

That does not make any

ROSE: I'll let Francisco speak about the bollards at this moment.

STEPHEN That's surprising. Susan, what say you? Usually, you have a good answer, so

answer is that we have to have a Florida engineer sign and seal the drawings. We'll have that in another two weeks. The building department requires a Florida engineer to sign and seal the drawings. The information that was done for the federal government is fine for the crash rating, but we do have to have a Florida engineer sign and seal them. We're a week and a half away from that. And so

So with phase three, would the bollards be going

in Correct. Together with the

So it's really phase one and two that are affected by the re excavation?

Correct.

A little Okay.

Yes. Okay.

Well, I mean, even that's not really acceptable. I mean, we don't have an engineer on-site that are on staff or in a pending RFQ or something like that approved.

JULIET We

have to have an independent party do that. So we have a Florida engineer sign and seal those.

So if an engineer in another state did it, it should be easy for a Florida engineer. Could it be a civil engineer? We have one right here on the board. And you are one, too, right? A PE.

I'm not a PE. I'm a licensed architect. However, I think to be objective, I think we have to have an engineer that's not an employee here to do those sign and sealed calculations. We have somebody on board. We're going to have those in, like, ten days submitted to the building department.

So phase two It's really unacceptable. Maybe phase two can already get the bollards in. I mean, if all we need is a stamp, then phase two hasn't

If yet we have it processed with the building department, they'll be able to install them because the bollards are here. And certainly for the future phases, they will be installed along with the streetscape.

Yeah.

And so with the phasing of when the bollards are in with regards to removal of the of the existing pavers and the irrigation, the different steps, I mean, I hope executive director and deputy executive director that phase two can go ahead and Burkhart team and building department can have the ballers put in. And so one excavation quicker, done, etcetera. Yes. I think we can accelerate that. Thank you, Commissioner Biederman. Was good. Board member Hernandez, you wanted to comment?

I do. Because this is the point. It's not up to you. It's our own process that it's not letting this move forward. This is really unacceptable because we have the ability to do the work, have an engineer provide the drawings. And the only thing that we would have to sign off is this isn't as built. But this is the way it was built. So there's really no reason why we need to go back and tear the sidewalks again and again and again. And this has been known for quite a while. And this is like the right hand not talking to the left hand and quite frankly, it's really unacceptable.

This is what the downtown merchants continue to say. We're working against ourselves. And why can't, and I'm not gonna ask you, why can't we just do this thing and provide an as built drawing for approval when we know what the requirements are. If the timing is like, we're making the people do the work again and again and we let It's going

to cost more.

Yeah. And then suffer through the merchants. That's unacceptable. We need to be able to plan accordingly and look at everything that we have, every tool that we have at our disposal. We allow other people when they have already built something to provide an as built. And particularly when we know what the engineering is going to be.

George, can you commit to doing whatever needed to

Absolutely. Was just on the phone with the building official. And as soon as we get him that certification in, then he will route it through and expedite it so we can do that all in phase. Absolutely.

Thank you. Still would we're being reactive. I'll it a second. I'm going to ask Nick?

Yes.

Nick, how long have you known that these plans were not provided from the beginning?

Well, when do we have possession of the bollards? When do we receive delivery of them? Is it before phase one?

Adam Roswell, Burkhart. So the project started. The manufacturer provided a report that they've used in the past that has been approved, we were asked by the engineer of record to provide a foundation design signed and sealed. When the manufacturer couldn't provide one, that's when everyone immediately, I mean, this all happened like in the last month where they basically threw their hands up and said, we usually submit this and it's Okay. And then as soon as they got questioned, now we're in this stage of like, oh crap, we have to get a foundation design stamped.

So we have priced it based on what the barrier one company gave as their typical foundation. Our assumption is that it's going to be Okay. But now that we have a engineer signing and sealing it, that's why we didn't move forward with it because there's a chance that the engineer that's going to sign off on this and say, I'm stamping this and certifying that this is crash rated based on these parameters, it could grow in size, which is why we didn't put them in. So believe me, we don't want to go back and tear up other sidewalks, believe me. But we also didn't want to put in a foundation and then have it stamped and signed and sealed and say, oh, we needed to add a foot and more rebar around the whole thing because that's way worse.

Well, then you have to tear it up and do it again because otherwise it's reactive. My point is, to the people that were actually organizing this from the get go. And I'm sorry to be critical, but why couldn't we ask the building departments what are your requirements? How many states these bowlers are being crash rated at the federal level, correct?

We've been told that, yes. By the barrier one company.

Yeah, by the people that are selling it to us.

Yes,

sir. And they provided some sort of engineering, correct?

They provided a foundation design with a crash report. Yes. There's no sign and seal calculations with that crash report that I've seen.

When did you guys talk to them originally to purchase them?

It's been ongoing. I think there's been emails for two months, three months, essentially, since they

Because we've been talking about this from here for about a year that I can remember. So you mean to tell me that three months, four months ago is when you started dealing with them, we just said that we wanted crash bollards. And then five months later, guys are looking

I guess the question is, did you find out that the city engineer wanted stamped and sealed drawings? How long has that been?

I'd say three to four weeks ago, and then we immediately reached out to a company to

I gotcha.

I think we were all assuming that the manufacturer had said document. And then as soon as we found out that they didn't have said document, everyone immediately reacted and tried to get the sign and seal package.

Think the key is to get the sign and seal ASAP and the No, the

key is to plan accordingly. Mean, this is not the first job that the CRA

think does. They learned the lesson just from the comments.

We're on it. I'm not I

mean, they're all hearing us. They realize. Maybe it's a little bit of a goof up. But we're handling it, right?

There's nothing else we can do right now. We can't hang anybody. But at the end of the day, this is not this is not on the job training. This is somebody that's been here for years and years. I get what you guys are saying. And the building department is going to ask you, you need to cross OUTs and .OUIs. You guys, you can't be blamed on this. But at the end of the day, our planning is about as poor as it can get when it comes to something like this. Our businesses, our residents, are the ones that are suffering because of our planning. And that's a problem.

Board Member Schuham.

Well, just to lighten the moment. Things happen. This is in the category of things happen in construction all the time. I think that we have to recognize that Burkhart did not go forward with engineered drawings that were provided because they recognized that that could have resulted in the city spending way more than the route that they've chosen. So thank you for that. Also, I just want to comment as the beach commissioner, if there is one thing this company is good at, it's putting back pavers.

I'm serious. Yeah, it's true.

We've experienced One of the reasons that you put in these pavers is because you have to take them out sometimes. So it is unfortunate. It sounds like it won't be impeding the pedestrian walkways. And I just think we can't. We strive for perfection and planning, but this is a very typical type of construction problem. I think that the way they handled it is worthy of a thank you. And I can also say that the end result's going to look great, because this is what they did all day long on A1A. So that's it.

Well, the good thing is it's only phase one that's behind. And that phase two forward will have the Bollard installation together with all their other improvements. And in the end, well, it's not going to be too much disruption. Board member Biederman.

So is it typical that the building department requires a Florida certification on something that's already been certified that we should have known when we originally ordered these? And who applied for the permits? Was it us or was it Burkhart? I'm not looking to really throw anybody under the bus. But the bottom line is we keep pounding staff.

But somebody needs to accept responsibility for the fact that we are so many months according to what we just heard. And now we're being told ten days or two weeks. I'm just kind of concerned that this is just a sign of what's going to happen next. So who applied for the building permit and found out that we need a Florida seal on these plans?

Well, George, maybe a staff member should have known that this would have been required.

First, is it unusual that our building department would require Florida review? No, it's not. Okay. That's not unusual.

JOSHUA So then we should have known that then.

JOSHUA Okay. So that's not unusual. But does stuff happen along the way? And are each cases differently along the way? And what some product approvals that are provided by an outside agency, are those reviewed and accepted sometimes? Sometimes they are, for instance, with windows sometimes. But I assure you that it's not due to a lack of anybody's attention on this. Some things evolve, as was stated in recent weeks. We're moving on it as quickly as we can. And we'll get it done as quickly as we can. If anybody thinks that we're not paying attention to it, that's dead wrong, Okay?

So the question is, are we going to have a change order now because you guys have to go back to pull up stuff?

No. Okay.

Cool. That's I That's what wouldn't want want to do.

On our end. It's a purely phasing and disturbance issue. So I don't want to and to your point, too, I think what Nick was alluding to as well, our goal in going back and putting in the light poles or the bollards is that possibly the parking areas in front of those spots are impacted for those couple days, but the goal is to not shut the street down again, especially not in conjunction with another shutdown. Of course, we would phase all that accordingly like we've done before. So to that point, it's more of a disturbance issue. It's not a cost issue.

Yep. All right. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, Nick. Appreciate it. All right. That concludes item number eight. All right. That was a good warm up for talking about storm water and sustainability analysis on the beach. John, welcome.

Thank you. Good morning, board members. John Goldman, CDM Smith, currently the CRA's stormwater engineer. Happy to be here. We have a presentation

Florida certified. Yeah.

Florida certified p. 30 No. Five

I'm kidding.

All right. So this is a project that CRA had asked us to start looking into. We're pretty much done with this. We've been working for just a few months on it. The report should be finalized here in about a month. There was two main things that we looked at. It had to do with flooding level of service within the CRA's district boundary on the beaches there. Number one, we were asked to determine the impact that the city installed new way pro backflow preventers have on sunny day flooding and tidal flooding depths or king tides with and without the street raising. You have to have the street raising considered. And for that, we had the data from CRA and from DPU.

There's a 2020 and 2021 the CRA purchased and FUOT installed on the intercoastal outfalls, a couple of backflow preventers in those gravity outfalls at the intercoastal waterway, Hyacinth And Crocus Jefferson Madison, which we've heard has collapsed and FDOT is in the process of repairing that. And then in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, CRA actually installed 19 what we're calling redundant backflow preventers. These are WAP Pros on the city side connecting the pipes to the FDOT system. That's Harrison to Hyacinth. There's still one more pending there over at Magnolia following some in progress other construction that was hindering that.

And then we have the other existing FDOT backflow preventers along State Road A1A. The second thing we looked at was determining the benefit of putting in two new proposed pump stations along with FDOT's first pump stations in the area and what's that impact on flooding depth and duration along A1A in that area. And the way that looks like, they're sequentially numbered from north to south further away from an earlier report. So it's thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen instead of 12, 34. However, so the FDOT one is also City of Hollywood, CRA and Broward County funded on grant money such 38 CSS CFS over at Brown Van Buren and that's what we show in the red circles there.

And then the next one to the south would be the cities Madison and then the CRA proposed one there in the purple triangle over on Foxglove and of course Azalea is what's going in. Those are the two FDOT ones are now in progress. I have an update on that if you want it but for that we can show you that progress at the end. We should start talking about street raising because that keeps coming up. As part of the storm water master plan, one of the recommendations was rather than putting in larger and larger pump station and infrastructure as we go, which exponentially increases cost, if you have a 100 foot dip in a road section and there's a storm water infrastructure there so you're not pushing the water elsewhere, you definitely just raise the road in that area.

And that's exactly what CRA has been doing. There are dips at the intersections of State Road A1A due to elevation differences coming off the ridge and how they came down the existing slopes. And there's a little picture there of what actually happens there. You have State Road Area 1A Row Crown and then you have this low area where there's this dip where the water can accumulate. And they hold water and they are most susceptible to tidal flooding because they're the lowest inlets.

And of course, they make access difficult and they collect sediment and debris when the water finally clears and it's a big mess. So this is really an important thing to do. So these low points are also the deepest areas of tidal flooding. And then when you raise the roads as these street grading projects are doing, you get rid of the dips and you're adding curbs and gutters and storm water inlets are also beautifying the streets through the CRA district. So eliminating the roadway dips is really a necessary project to meet your flooding depth level of service and we'll show you why in just a minute.

It's really a very cost effective way especially in that tight corridor where you don't have the luxury of continuing to put in larger pumps and pipes. And it should be noted that some areas have existing structures and elevations where you can't raise it as much as you'd like to. So certain areas had less raising. Certain areas have significant raising. But in general, raising is a good thing just because of the geometric constraints of the other signs.

Sometimes you can't get as high as you'd like to get out of that flood plain. So a little bit about the backflow preventers that you have out there. Back in 2023, we did our analysis for King Tide and we gave you the King Tide flooding tool and you're seeing some of the output from that from before. The top picture there is Azalea to Magnolia over there. It's a two and a half foot King Tide from our model and that's with no rain. And then put three inches of rain on it and it turns into the what you see on the bottom. We had done this for emergency management before. The red is for high vehicle access only. As you can see, there's significant areas where only a high vehicle can go with just three inches of rain. Why does that happen?

Because when the intercoastal comes up high, nothing flows out the existing outfalls and that's why you need those pump stations. So when you raise the side streets only and you have that two and a half king foot king tide, the grading itself can just drop the depth by about eight inches in some of those places. Some of them it's four inches or less but it also reduces the duration. And without the raised side streets, the King flooding is significantly deeper. The water level stays the same but you're raising the road up and out of the flood.

When we added the city's way pros valves to the raised streets, most of the streets are now dry at King Tide. So having redundant backflow preventers, I know it sounds why we have belt and suspenders. Well, the system is owned by FDOT and you're kind of at FDOT's mercy to continue to fix and make their pipes correct and get all the leaking pipes. And so you're on their schedule. So this kind of freed you from being on their domain and now you're in charge of your own destiny here.

So I think we saw a picture just recently. It might have been Bob who sent it. One of the city's CRA catch basins was dry and there was no water but the water was coming down the street from other leaking backflow preventers and it wasn't flooding. It was just going into that catch basin. So they do work. But what you've done also is added 19 new locations where you have to make sure that those are maintained, right? And they, you know, each one of these and those are the Wapro valves and they have their pluses and minuses. They're a little bit large and this and that but they are something that the city has kind of made a standard on. And we wrote that in the storm water master plan that that would be kind of the city standard due to newer technology and the materials that are used. And it's something that the city wants to do.

You can't control FDOT. They either take the low bid or whatever they have in their specifications. I know they've put in some Wapros recently, but they also have Checkmate valves and they have just some regular flapper valves and other things in their system. And all of these are susceptible to a piece of trash or something going in there and barnacles in this marine environment. But we did see that these are working and it does show that that was for what your purposes are is to stop the King Thai flooding while FDOT is still working on the system.

It was a good stop gap interim measure. So the backflow title summary is just an analysis here. This is what we had just in this area. This is a snapshot in time from the last time we were out in there. There were still a couple of problems with FDOT's backflow preventers there on the intercoastal side.

You see the blue dots are where the city CRA has put in there. A couple areas are still leaking which we show in the red. Any time you go out there, that situation may change depending on the state of the maintenance now. But this was kind of the last time we were out there. So the combination of the street raising and putting in those backup way pros is being pretty effective right now considering you're not in control of what's happening on the intercoastal side.

So just some insights there. The new backflow preventers help But until FDOT's Azalea pump station is put in, which there's just an outfall there without a backflow preventer, so Azalea is still compromised and it comes down to the adjacent blocks. I think that's what the picture was that we were provided. And the lack of complete backflow prevention South Of Hyacinth still allows flooding along the curb to come in even if you have your backflow preventers installed. And FDOT is planning the two initial pump stations and other backflow preventers.

As those pump stations go in, you'll see less and less king tide flooding. Very importantly and this is from our own personal experience, this is Scott Street. We were out there two years ago on a two and a half, two and a half, 2.2 foot King Tide, high and dry. Everything was working great. We came back to the same location a year later to see how things were going. As you see, it's over ankle deep, right? And that was a new backflow preventer that we heard had just gone in the year before, right? So constant maintenance is required. Model sees the backflow preventer as a pipe that doesn't flow. But we can't model each one of these leaking pipes, right?

So beyond just the backflow prevention, the city is also doing the pipe inspections for all the holes in the pipes and other things that are leaking in. If the backflow is holding and you're still leaking into the pipe, well, that's just as bad of a problem. So you can always consider the joint projects with the FDOT to replace some of those older style backflow preventers. And the reason I'm saying that, I looked at some of the early reports from a presentation last month by DPU. A lot of the areas that were inspected said heavy barnacles needed to be replaced, valve and this and that.

So a of this is due to some of those older style valves maybe not shutting quite as well as a new La Pro would. And then the question also came up, well, know, we have another area, Central Beach. Would you replace those with the older style ones there? There's some Checkmates out there. There's some flap gates. We counted 19. This is from a CRA count from a while ago. So they're running about $60 a piece to put these in. There's 19 of them, right? So that's about 1 and a half million dollars. You would have to have an agreement with FDOT. Do they want them? Who's going to maintain them? Are they Okay with that? But that's something that you may talk to them about.

You could also continue to put in the backup smaller way pros, the belt and suspenders, you don't want to continue relying on them. It's always better to actually have the original backflow to be the primary. But if it's still a problem, that can be I don't have a lot of data on these areas. We don't have an engineering analysis. If you want an opinion from me, we would have to go out, see each one of these, do a valve inspection report, look at each valve, look at the likelihood of failure, the consequence of the failure in those areas, put that and then we can make a recommendation on what's happening here.

Is it worth spending the money there? But I'm not sure how the CRA funds work. If the 1,500,000.0 is going to be lost and you have to spend it, that's not a bad project to start looking at. But again, it's an agreement with FDOT. There may be some cost sharing. Don't take responsibility for the outfalls because that's their evacuation route. You can obviously you had a couple of VFPs that you guys bought and they put in and now they're using. That would be the same type of agreement you would go with. So that's a little bit about the Central Beach there. So let's talk about pump stations.

Pump stations are key and we did the analysis here within the CRA boundary. The first two, Bougainvillea and the Azalea, this is the locations of FDOTs. Remember, they're going to put in 18 all the way up and down Hollywood Beach. Eventually, they do them, looks like four at a time. They're also doing seawalls and some other backflow prevention.

And the existing area would then leave these two small gaps within the Beech's CRA district between Summit Towers to Jackson. That was called system one, two, three by the engineer who did the report. And between Hyacinth to Eucalyptus, that's system four. So you have these gaps. So we were asked, what happens if we put in some additional pump stations in these areas?

So we took the preliminary design report from one. One of the other ones is already permitted and ready to be built. And this is just to note that on the south side of all of this, FDOT is still planning the Magnolia pump station and that kind of completes this area. You'll see in our analysis because that Magnolia area was not done, some water will eventually come back towards the four pump stations that we analyzed. But one of the recommendations is before they talk about the next four pump stations in their next five year plan, let's make sure that one gets in because contiguous pump stations is very important.

You don't need them to be spread out just because that's how FDOT had to do it. You can ask to maybe get this one accelerated or put in as the next priority. So existing conditions, this is from our storm water master plan back in 2025. We did put in backflow preventers although some of them are cracked and leaking so that we matched the existing conditions. And of course, this is assuming the raised streets. So your flood depths in a five year twenty four hour storm which is what we use for the rest of the master plan which is 7.4 inches, that's a lot of rain, right? And the high tide, you can get flood depths up to 18 feet over at along A1A in this area, right? That's a lot. And the duration is the full tidal cycle. And why does this happen?

None of the outfall, gravity outfalls are working. It all just piles up in the street. Intercoastal goes down again with the tide and then it starts to gravity flow out. So FDOT's two new pump stations. The flood drops about two inches to six inches. Some areas goes down a half a foot so they work. The two inches is because you're also getting in flow from other areas. If you have two and you needed ten, fifteen of them, you're going to get some overflow from other areas taking up that capacity. So they're all designed for a very specific area. Until they all go in and are working in conjunction, you're going to have these kind of anomalies.

And the duration actually reduced four hours up at Van Buren which is significant. So you're getting a drop in flooding and you're getting duration drop. And the highest one still, the greatest depth we found was Iris Terrace still in this area. So what happens if you put in the two more pump stations for CRA next to these? So now the flood drift drops another 10 inches and the duration is reduced faster, four and a half hours.

So the flood drifts now zero inches in some areas, so you've solved the flooding problem in some areas and still Iris Terrace is it's about a foot deep which has still gone down and the duration is still about five hours over there. But the worst flooding problems are still South Of Hyacinth until the rest go in. But by putting four stations in, 11 of the 19 streets in this area that we studied now meet your level of service which we're doing everywhere else, right? So four pump stations working together is working very well. So a couple of notes here.

When the feature pump station is installed at Magnolia, the farthest one to the south, that pretty much clears up this entire area by itself if you looked at it. And then a lot of people have asked, well, why don't you just connect it, you know, connect the areas into those existing pump stations temporarily? The level of service gets worse everywhere. So that's not something you want to look at. You're going to take up capacity in areas and make everything not as good.

But again, that's a big storm. FDOT has different levels of service that they use to keep certain lanes dry during but this is our storm water master plan level of service. So did a little flood map like we always do. This is your existing condition as we predicted and this is what happens with four pump stations. Existing, four pump stations. We didn't bother to do the two because it's kind of hard to see really any improvement. So one more time, that's what you're at now. That's what we predict with four pump stations in a row And that's the locations of those pump stations that we were looking at. Do

you have a model of what it would look like with the pump stations that are under construction right now? Like without the four, I think there's

We do. It's hard to see at this level.

But it would be the same impact, but just for the smaller basin?

One of the areas only goes about two inches and the other to six inches. So it's a two to six inch range rather than this. So this is a little summary here. This is like a little cartoon man walking. So this is kind of what happens now. You're about calf deep over there. You can be up to 18 inches deep for six hours. That's a full tile cycle. And then with the two pump stations, you lower two to six inches so you're making walking a little bit easier. The some areas are still over the sidewalks there and it still lasts about four hours. And then with the four pump stations on, now you've dropped it to where the sidewalks are free and able to be walked on. And some streets showed no flooding over the road crown anymore And we reduced the duration by a full six hours.

But what layering in a Waypro to stop the flow before it even the gets to a

Waypro has nothing to do with the rainfall coming down. So whether you have a Waypro in there or the intercoastal is high, it's not flowing out of gravity.

So this is assuming a three inch rainfall?

This no. This is your

Just king tide.

This is your five year, twenty four hour storm. This is a seven and point four. This is the city's level of service for everywhere else. We just ran Just a larger

clarify, what what rainfall are you assuming in these images?

This is a five year twenty four hour How many inches? 7.4 inches.

Seven inches of rain. Seven. Alright. So that's like basically a monsoon calamity of sorts.

This is the city's level of service for the mass.

For the monsoon calamity, not a typical king tide.

Well, the king tide has nothing to the king tide's always in these. It's the rainfall on top of that. So whether you had a backflow preventer or whether the intercoastal was up here, it's still not flowing out. So it's not flowing in. It's not flowing out. It's just building up rainwater.

But So if you had a pump, the pump pumps out the rainwater.

That's correct. And we'll talk a little bit more about the benefits of the pumps here. So it does show that there is a benefit of having all four of the pump stations operating in the area contiguously side by side for flood control because we do see that reduction in flood duration and in-depth for that larger interconnected area through the study area that we looked at. It does remove those unserved gaps which may raise questions. You can say, Oh, it was DOT's first two pump stations. Why didn't we do all of them? No coordination. We want to make sure that at least that's addressed. So it'll take those gap areas out. And then, it also reduces the overall risk.

So if you have a greater storm than 7.4 inches, it's going to come up and over. And if one of the pump stations, for some reason, completely doesn't work, still have three others in that area that's going to be working contiguously. So there's a little bit of a risk reduction there. And we don't condone this, but it does reduce the impact of the seasonal king tide. The pump station doesn't care what kind of water it's pumping.

So if there's a leak somewhere and it's not raining, it'll pump this down pretty quickly. So there's a little added benefit in there. Although, if it's you have those leaks going on and it's rainfall, then you're taking up your pump station capacity. It's supposed to be used for the storm water with this inflow from the tide. So it does help and it should replace having backflow preventers.

Everywhere you put in a pump station, you no longer need the backflow preventer because there's no way for the water to come back because it's physically going up and over. So kind of in conclusion there, lowers the flood stages in the durations and it shows action to your residents obviously in the CRA area there and closes those gaps. And you don't have to rely on the next round of the funding from FDOT which is still unknown today. So a couple of recommendations here. We want to request the FDOT I know we have a meeting with the director coming up and we'll probably be involved with that.

Repair and maintenance of the city identified leaking backflow preventers. We know Magnolia, Madison. There may be others. Every time you go out there, it might be a different story. But it's going to be something that you're going to constantly be repairing and how do we address that. Potential joint project agreements on getting rid of some of the older technology flaps to see if they'll participate in that with their system. Pipelining and sealing, it's still critical. Your backflow preventers can be holding water tight and it can still be inflowing in. I have a picture of that if you want to see that. So the city's already taking action and is doing a CCTV inspection.

I saw some of the results of that. There are point repairs that need to be done. Typical inspection in those areas was running about $25,000 and a typical repair was about 75,000 So you're looking at a 100 per each basin. That's something that would be in your capital improvements and that's going to be ongoing. You get everything tightened up and then you start from the beginning and you go again.

The Magnolia Street Basin storm water pumps and we said that pump station should be a priority project to finalize this area. And I'm sure that there's ways to lobby FDOT to say in their next round, we want Magnolia to be one of your priorities. That's kind of the last gap for this area and it kind of buttons it up. We do recommend a new city backflow preventer at Iris Terrace. There's a lot of flow coming down there and that's the one street that didn't have one.

All those 19 little dots that we showed, we still want to put in probably one more. It's the only street that didn't have it. Oops, went the wrong way. And it's important to note that this resiliency and the flooding, it's a combination of all these methods. We were asked at the beginning several times, well, what do you recommend? Is it backflow? Is it It's a combination of all of it. They're not mutually exclusive. If you had the luxury of putting in all 19 pump stations today at 15,000,000 a piece, you wouldn't need backflow. But if you're doing this over two decades, a decade, whatever it's going to be, so you definitely need to do each one of these components GILLIAM: and

address it. And that's just part of

how John, so I'm glad you mentioned the money. And thank you for the recommendations. Obviously, as you mentioned, the pump stations, while they are the ideal opportunity to be able to not only stop water but also get it out at $15,000,000 apiece and years of appropriations and design and engineering and what have you, that's a long term, but perhaps necessary improvement, a very expensive one. Obviously, backflow component and the one that we have most control over is the city installed redundant backflow preventers at the structures. FDOT, I would say, is responsible for the backflows of the Intracoastal.

We are offering to layer in because we want to protect our streets and not have continuous and not wait up for that. When you compare the cost of installing the smaller city redundancy backflow preventers of the structures versus the cost and the time of the pumps from while everything is needed in combination, clearly, if we can, within a few months, install the redundant backflows in every single structure, north to south, everywhere, you would agree that we ought to, right?

Yeah. It seems to it's definitely It's better than nothing. It's better than nothing. That's true. But remember, you're only putting those in for the short king tide window, it's just

Well, that's the pain point. The pain point is really the short king tide window on the beach, more so rain. Rain, obviously, is an issue. If you have seven inches of rain, the entire city is flooding, not just water on the beach waiting for a low tide, which is a better circumstance on the beach than it is in other neighborhoods of the city, correct?

That's correct.

Way better. Yes. DELL: You have a real quick exit with an outfall pipe. It kind of like always a lot of our pain on the beach is because of it is the storm water system, F DOT storm water system. Not pointing the finger at them, but it is the backflow of tidal water onto the streets because of the way in which the storm water system is designed and maintained and its condition.

If the outfalls had a 90 degree sort of extension and high tide water would never get into them, there wouldn't be the king tide flooding that we have on the side streets today, putting aside any infiltration along the pipe. And so it is disappointing that it's a man made problem here, man made because of the storm water system that's causing it. But here we are, just like at the previous discussion. We have to solve the conditions that we're in right now today. And so my recommendation to the CRA board, what I want to see happen and I mentioned this to the executive director yesterday is everywhere on the beach, South Hollywood Beach, especially Central Hollywood Beach, where there's not even where there is a pump construction in progress, we spend the very little comparative money on installing the WayPros at the structures, the redundancy WayPros.

I think we should, at the same time, demand that FDOT install and fix backflow preventers at the outfalls. And that's what we should be saying to FDOT is, you do the outfall. It's yours. There's no doubt about that, right? There's no argument about that.

And we'll do the inline redundancy. And at the same time, work to install as many pump stations as possible as funding comes along and five years plans comes along. Now, in my opinion and I think you'd agree from a sunny day king tide flooding perspective if we'd have the redundant weight pros of the structures and even without, but assume also that we have a ceiling backflow that works on the outfall, like our king tide experience is going to be night and day different from what it's today. If anything, it could be completely dry.

Adding in that the point repairs still need to be done for any giant holes that are sitting on the existing pipe. And that's on the FDOT side as well.

But even with that, the redundant Waypro will put a stop to, if it's functioning correctly and it's worthy of its purpose, it will stop that water as well, right?

And we still saw some flooding, obviously, on the west side of the street, which is near the intercoastal. But on the east side, where your inlets and pipes are, that's

where Right. Which brings me to a final point, board members. And I hope you guys agree about the minimal but really effective backflow preventer installations at the structures. Then the second component, because and while we're raising seawalls and we're pursuing property owners that need to raise their seawalls, I've noticed that there are private outfalls into parking lots that drain into the intercoastal private ones that are obviously back flowing as well, we ought to consider an ordinance that requires those properties on the West Side Of A1A to install backflow preventers in their own private outfalls because some of those overflows spill into neighboring property or the street itself. So I don't know if that requires an ordinance or what have you, but there shouldn't be a back we should have a backflow requirement on private outfalls if that doesn't exist.

So I hope I didn't speak confusingly, but backflows at the structures by the city, backflows at the outfalls by FDOT while we work on the pump stations, and an ordinance requiring backflow preventers. What's the presentation today? But as when this comes back and I I'd like the the board to give direction and and the executive director execute. Right? Yeah. We're

Your microphone's not on.

We're supportive of the recommendations. And if if you are to get that direction, we presume I heard our consultant say we need some initial engineering evaluation on those locations with the Wapros, if I'm not mistaken.

On the existing FDOT Wapros, we wouldn't recommend replacement if they're working fine.

Now, but that's the outfall way pros.

That's the outfall. This is

I'm talking about well, we have the most control

authority of

cheapest is to do the smaller way pros at the structures while we pursue FDOT to do it on the outfalls. Yeah. Yeah.

Sure. Sure. Understood.

Alright. I see Bob standing up. We have speaker cards on this, clerk? No? Yeah. Come on up, Bob. And then the board will will finish up.

Hi, Bob BOB Klickman. I just want to bring one thing to your attention. For the past three years, I've been telling you about the dip in the road where the side street meets A1A. I'm a content observer. That's my picture that they're using up there. No credit was given. Thank you very much.

He said, he did.

JOSHUA Okay. But one of the important things that you're also overlooking, Okay, because of the dip in the road, and we have the valve in the basin, the water cannot get out. It's flooding in. It's covering the sidewalk. What that means is the pedestrians can no longer walk on the sidewalks either. So you have to get rid of the dip in the road, Okay? Because it's holding the water until the intercoastal releases it.

I'm sorry. That's only in the case of if there's rain while a king tide is happening. But if we didn't have the backflows that are, you're saying, preventing the water from going. But if we didn't have a backflow, the tidal water would be out on the street, and the rainwater wouldn't be able to go either.

Yes. But even with the backflow that we have in the drain currently, even when you have a rain, the intercoastal is still rising. The pressure is not allowing the water to escape. So it's creating a ponding effect. And it goes no king tide, just a rain. The water will sit there, Okay? It will cover the sidewalks along A1A. I'm just bringing this to your attention that it makes it impassable for a pedestrian who wants to walk there.

But I'm sorry. Why without a king tide situation and assuming the outfall pipe is clear to the drain of the intercoastal because it's not GREENEZ: overflowing it, why would the rain not go?

Because the drainage system is only in three block increments. It fills up very quickly. Then you also have the water table is rising. So the water is not being released from the drainage system. It's flooding and ponding. And it's sitting there for hours and hours on end. There's no release. There's not enough pressure to release it back out. It's covering the sidewalks there. It's because of the dip in the road. Once you raise that dip, the water will no longer be able to sit there. It will be able to outflow out.

That's where the pumps do come in. But look, segments if of of or the dips in Central Beach ought to be raised too in a perfect world, yes?

Yes. I

don't know what kind of what length of those streets you would start the the raising and if it's did you guys look at that, Susan? I don't know if it's 30 feet, the last 30, the last 40, the last 50, and if it's maybe a manageable thing or it would be a whole open heart surgery on every street.

Well, in general, the raising of the streets that we're doing in phase four also requires harmonization onto private property. So it would have to be looked at as a complete system because

But hold on. On Central Beach is what we're talking about. There is a curb and sidewalk at each street, right? Some driveway, I guess.

JAMES Not all the streets have curbs. Some of them were done kind of flat to reduce tripping. So that would have to be looked at as a whole system. We would have to look at each block.

I gotcha. And from an affordability standpoint, from what you know, obviously these pumps are 10,000,015 million dollars apiece. What is a raising of a street and the harmonizing kind of go for?

It's different on each street, and I don't

Do you know the range? It could be anywhere from half 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 or less. Or you want to come back with that?

Well,

Just we ought to know, as we're looking at all three solutions pump, backflow, and raising of streets.

I can tell you that the raising of the streets in phase four on the 17 streets, just that portion of the raising of the streets was $19,400,000

So about $1,000,000 a street. And that was the whole block?

From where we started raising the street, right? The street closer to Surf Road is not raised as much. We start about, let's say, 40 feet in because we have to meet the elevation at A1A. That's the governing elevation. So to get rid of the dip, we have to start at that A1A elevation. We can't be higher or lower. Otherwise, we'll create an adverse condition at that corner.

All right, Bob.

So I would bring to your attention that it's not every street that has a dip in it. You can go down to Wilson or Harding Street, just as an example. They're straight. Okay, Scott And Liberty has the dip. So it's not every street. So it's just something that I would suggest that you look into. Thank you.

All right. Well, I think we need to do all of it. So let's go ahead to board member Shuham.

Thank you, chair. I think I want to make sure there's no conflict. I'm hearing the director say that staff is supportive of moving forward with Jonathan's recommendations. And you are, too. But you're saying, let's go, go, go on the $1,500,000 completely agree with that. But I want to make sure that we are letting the CRE That's

the only tweak I would make is that while the recommendation was to enter into an agreement to work together with FDOT about the outfalls, I think our position needs to be FDOT needs to handle the outfalls.

Yeah, of course. And I'd like to talk about a couple of things. First of all, while it's fresh in my mind, Bob, before you leave, I would like to get support for staff to look at for CRA staff to look at Scott and Liberty. And if what Bob is saying is true and that street was raised in phase three, I think, right? Most of that street was raised, but maybe it is just a smaller correction at that dip. So I would just like support to take a look at the most cost effective way to if there is a cost

effective I would say the problem with directing them to look at Scott And Liberty is there are other streets on Central Beach that are so worse, especially Arizona, that I wouldn't want to spend time raising Scott And Liberty, with all due respect to Bob. And he would probably admit there are streets that are way worse on Central Beach.

Okay. Well, then let's do that. Let's just take a look. Let's just get an inventory. Because where I'm heading is, we need a long term plan. And I know Vin is here, and we have a long term stormwater management plan. But this is not in it. This DIP issue is not in Vin's plan, as far as I know. And it sounds like maybe it should be. So that's fine.

If there's other streets, I think that's a good first start, is to let's get a list of streets where we have already done the aesthetic improvements through the CRA. But now we need to go back and look at it via through the lens of stormwater. So, you know, we have to remember that the CRA's slum and blight was aesthetics at first. And over these past eight years, really, it's become a real integral part of our stormwater management system. So those first phases of the CRA were really a lot based on visual aesthetic improvements, correct?

And so I'm just saying, let's get an inventory of where else we need physical street raising on the projects that have already been completed. Let's just start with that. So do we have support for that? Just to kind of get an idea what street ends in the future may need to be harmonized.

I just have a question on that. Yeah. I'll support it, but I have a question.

Hold on.

Go ahead.

I'll support it, but I do have a question. Like why wouldn't we already know this? Why would we have to do a special outtake in inventory? We should know. We did the improvements already, put the pumps and all of this improvement that we spent. Shouldn't we know that there's this collection?

There's no pumps in that area.

In that entire area? Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

The pumps are South Of Hollywood and at Sherman.

Yeah. Well, the Central Beach I mean, we already know, to your point, Commissioner Clari. We already know the elevations and things.

I don't think it's a lot of work. I don't think it's a lot of work.

But let's

just get an hour

of the office.

Know I mean? Like, I don't want to

I agree.

Money and engineering time to know that the flooding

What we already know.

Know where it's at.

Right. It be a quick it should be a relatively quick thing to come back

to

us. Susan? WOODRUFF:

I'm in agreement that we know because we can see the dips in the road, like on Taylor, on New York, and Arizona. However, if we want to know the extent, we probably do need to have either look at the As Bill drawings. But we should look at a survey to see, Okay, if the dip here is x, how much would the street need to be raised and what would need to be harmonized? So we can come back with a visual observation. And from what we see over the years, that we can provide you.

And you could do that internally with your staff? You don't need a consultant for that.

That's correct. I'm saying that would be without a survey. The survey would provide you much more exact information.

Right. And Wild Ballpark, we know they're about a million, 1,000,001 half dollars.

Board Member Hernandez, real quick on this.

Thank you, Mayor. We should already have a topographical survey of the area. I don't think you need to do a consultant or anything else when it comes to that. All the work that's been done in that area, there's got to be a top

For the initial analysis, Susan. Right.

That's what I'm saying. We have asphalt surveys, and we can use that.

JOSEPH And there should be our engineering department, if not our underground department, should have a topographical survey of the which means all the elevations and the streets and everything else for us to be able to read and just come to,

you know, So simple it sounds like there's support for them to come back and let us know the extent of the issue.

I'm supporting for staff to do a visual And how for them to review whatever plans and stuff that we have without authorizing them any money for that to happen.

I agree. Okay? We're good. Okay. So that's you're free to go, sir. The other thing I want to understand, Jonathan, is when you're talking about, the level of service, the LOS is the five year seven inch storm. That's today, right?

That's the storm water master plan chosen citywide level of service. That's your large capital program. It's everywhere.

But when you're looking at that, is it looking at climate conditions today? Or is it looking at climate conditions in the future?

That's well, the pumps will be designed for higher tides because your seawater That's what I

wanted to about five. Okay. The other thing for you and this is a little outside of your normal work. But, you know, clearly there's a frustration here that FDOT is not holding up its obligation. Have you worked in other coastal cities that have an A1A that floods that are doing something different or better than Hollywood to get FDOT to do their job?

We work with FDOT up and down the coast, and it's the same process. They're a big machine. They work in five year increments and you work with the local staff. I think the local staff here, James Pool and his group, have been very helpful. I know there's a frustration. They have a lot of I'm not defending the FDOT here, but they have a lot of pressing things going on with their roads. They know that this is a priority. Just recently, the Broward County NPO did the resiliency, the mobility and resiliency study for A1A. Maybe coming out of that will be some additional funds that'll get released. I mean, their whole purpose is to release funds from the state to help down here.

It seems to be a priority. You know

But I'm talking more under about I get that for long term capital projects, but just the maintenance. Is anybody doing anything different?

One is the meeting with Steve Braun.

That Yeah, I'm getting to that.

Well, was going to get to that, too. Still, after two plus months of three written and multiple phone calls, no commitment to be either here or staff meetings.

All right. Well, we will give him a call today.

So and I will be doing some letter writing.

Okay. And then, I guess, the biggest thing I want to understand is, Jonathan, FDOT first came out and said, oh, this is it. This is all the 18 posts.

Yeah, I cut everything short. I had all of this. Okay. And I knew you were

on press sometimes. So this is what FDOT thinks it needs to do to give us the FDOT required level of service, correct?

This is the plan they have in place.

And in here are the two when you talk about two CRA pumps, two of them are here.

Yeah.

Right. So what I want to have our staff focus on is a long term agreement with FDOT that allows the city to proceed with this stuff pursuant to agreed to terms and conditions and getting reimbursed as the FDOT gets the money. We should be able to, if we have funding, which we do for the next two years, we should be able to start knocking these out and have them pay us back in the future. We

asked that at

I know.

Meetings before. And I believe the response was, there's like a liability issue with that. But we asked exactly what you're No, it's

a funding question. They can approve our drawings. They can do everything. But this is what I would like to see. I would like to see a long term funding reimbursement program that allows the city or the CRA to fulfill FDOT obligations faster with the understanding that they pay us back.

In full agreement and support as soon as we can get them to the table.

Right. We've talked about it. A million

We're just either

at a staff meeting or here, and neither has been successful.

But we have to clarify, Carol, please. What we're seeing here from FDOT is a desire to construct a total of 18 stormwater pump stations at $10 plus million apiece. You're not suggesting DELL: that we would build these pump stations, all of them at

our No. I'm saying when we feel something like this has to be done, like the two that Jonathan's recommending, that there's an agreement in place Talking

about the maintenance?

JULIE Both.

Not pump station construction. No. Because then we'd have to engineer it all.

Let's talk about the two that we're talking about right now. We're going to do that. We're going to do those two pump stations. And we're going to expect FDOT to pay us back, right? And I'm saying this should not be piecemeal. This should be like a long term plan that allows that. Not that it forces us to do it, but because we're not getting service from them. So when this city decides, it's really critical for us to put in another one of these 18, we should be able to do that pursuant to an existing agreement. In other words, let's think ahead and not be reactive.

That's all So I think the only problem with that is that FDOT has a much larger budget than the city does. And this is their road. And I don't know that an agreement that opens the door to us to front all of this and

to Not all of it. What we choose. That's all I'm saying. We have situations where we should not have to wait the five years. And it would be up to us. And we would be doing FDOT a favor. They get to pay us back out of their own money that they were going to spend to do this. But we're going get five years more use out of these things. That's all I'm saying is let's get a long term funding strategy in place, Okay? Now, to the next point, which is we can't get them to the table. Damaris, we talked about this before. They have a legal obligation to do this. The maintenance, their maintenance, they have to do it.

JOSHUA Did we get a copy of the maintenance agreement that was requested last time? I think you did a public records request.

JOSHUA We've done a public records request. We followed up as recently as last night. We still have not received those records. They said that DAY: they have assigned someone to do a deeper dive

Are to they subject to the same fifteen days that we are on a

They're program request? Subject to all of the

same Right. Public records. Love James Poole, and I love Steve Braun. But this is not working. This is not working. And we have residents that can't get into their car, whose cars are being damaged, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. It is time for us to take a stand. And if there are other cities in the same boat, have them join us. But we can't keep to Commissioner Kalari's point, we can't keep having the same conversation over and over and over. FDOT needs to change the way it's doing business. And if it doesn't, the cities need to react and be more forceful. So I don't want this to be rhetoric. I want this to be turned into action.

I can tell you some of the discussions we were just having here is those previous attempts with our utilities director, both in writing and verbally, unsuccessful. I will attempt to do it directly myself in writing with an aggressive letter and directly with the secretary. If that's not successful, I don't know what other steps we might take. But we'll continue to turn up the crank because we don't control the situation. But I understand the comprehensive approach is what we need. And we've got to get them to be open to doing business a little differently to be able to get to that point. And taking that first step seems to be

I

a

real think challenge. We've it successfully with them, JOSHUA where we have gone out of pocket and gotten reimbursed. We're not reinventing the wheel.

And let's remember that they are spending tens of millions of dollars on the pump stations that they're building on the beach. So they're not doing things.

But let's remember, that's their obligation. They're not doing us a favor. This is their road. It's their obligation to do it, Right?

I'm not saying there aren't shortcomings. Obviously, are. But we definitely do need to wake them up. Do agree. Yeah.

There's two components to this. One is this long term idea of these 18 pumps and everything that we're doing that is their responsibility, capital improvements. But the other is that maintenance. And we talked about that we wanted to see that contract to see if there is any way that they can authorize us to act under that whatever it is. I'm not suggesting we have the solution. But there has to be a way for the city to find a problem and have it fixed on their dime. And that's if they're not going to do it themselves, they have to authorize us somehow to take care of their road. And I am confident that there are other cities in this predicament. And maybe, Adam, this is something for the City Managers Association. But it's like enough is enough already.

And I mean, Jonathan, your work is amazing. And if you hear of these frustrations up and down A1A, I would like to know. I would like to know who's going to partner with us to demand changes with the way these roads are being maintained.

I think the MPO I pulled a couple of excerpts from what the MPO is doing.

Carol, has this been discussed at the MPO?

Are

GREGORY Well, it's interesting. The MPO is doing a study, but I haven't seen any results from it. But this is about funding, right? I don't think that the MPO is in a position to change the way FDOT

Not on the maintenance side. But for sure, potentially accelerating the state appropriations to these areas based on this study.

But to your point, Mary, there's definitely something at the next MPO I will raise. But I think there is a distinction between what the MPO can do, which is study and allocate funds for FDOT projects, and getting FDOT to do those projects. Those are very different. So anyway, that's it. It's definitely I am very grateful that the CRA is here to do this. I think that we should take advantage of it. Go, go, go. And try to get relief to as many residents along A1A and businesses as we can. So thank you, Susan, and your staff for all that work. And thank you, Jonathan.

Vice Chair Quintana.

Did you want to say something about the multimodal study?

No, I just was showing that for information.

Okay. I hate to slow everybody down, but I just want to make sure that I understand where we're at. I'm a little bit like there was a lot of different things said. I'm trying hard to keep up with you all. So just to check my understanding, one of the things we're going to be taking up is

the You want me to summarize real quick?

Well, let me just if I can just say, then you guys can tell me if I got it wrong. The backflow preventers, we're talking about 19 of them being installed at 60,000 to $75,000 each.

Those are already in. Okay. WOOD:

So the $1,500,000 CHRISTIAN

The additional 19 or so.

CHRISTIAN That's what I mean.

So we're talking about another 19

that don't have it. Yeah, certain streets got them, they appear to be working. I've seen visual evidence of it. And then it takes you out of the purview of FDOT's maintenance, and you get to kind of control it. But it works on the east side of the road. On the west there, they just still

have Yeah, I some see. So we have already 19 in. We're talking about putting in 19 more.

However many needed to complete that every drainage structure along the East side of A1A have a small Wipro valve.

Okay. And I had a question about the dips. And it sounded like the recommendation to fix the dips was to raise roads as one of the ways.

That's correct. The raising of the roads is an instant way to help that area, beautify the area. There's a lot else going on. So you could put in larger and larger pump stations to the point they won't fit anymore and not get that one area. And just like we've done elsewhere in the city, if we put in a doubled and tripled the size of the pump station and we couldn't get an area, we simply raised the road in that area because that's how you fix it.

Okay. So I guess the mayor or the chair asked this question, but I had it too. It's like, how much does it cost to raise a road?

And I think Susan replied, up to two about $1,500,000 for the project to the south, right, Susan?

Right. Again, the project to the south, we are completely reconstructing the roadway. So the portion of that total CAROLINE:

reconstruction that's solely attributed to the raising of the streets was about $19,500,000

For one road?

JULIE

would be a benefit to have them raised. And we'll see what we're getting into and decide if we want to go for it now or observe how the back flows work and take it from there.

I just I mean, it is about money. And I just want to I'm trying to get a sense of how much this costs. And I mean, know we're going to be revisiting it, but I'm just trying to understand. And that $1,500,000 per road includes the harmonization part that you referred to that would be necessary in some cases?

Yes. But again, that's on a newly constructed road. So when we come back and look at the roads that had been built with the dips, we'll have a better understanding of what the impact to the harmonization will be because we'll look at that in-depth.

Okay.

Then I had a question about what do we know about the cost of maintenance for the backflow preventer prevention devices? Because it sounded like that was

JOSEPH Super minimal. Super minimal. You're talking about a rubber triangle inside a pipe. And if the triangle is clogged with something, you go and the nice thing about the redundant ones that we want to put as a city is we have direct access to the valve right at the structure. So someone can go into the big box in the road and observe and remove any clog. Right, John?

Someone being That's why I'm asking. You guys all have been doing this much longer than me. And I'm just trying to understand costs. So then there's I had a question. Where does the water go?

I know this is you probably all know this answer, but where does the water go after it gets pumped?

Into the intercoastal waterway.

Everything does. And then it Okay.

And then out to the ocean.

Right.

So The if the sea level was lower, it would spill over naturally to the intercoastal and go out the ocean anyway.

But because of sea level, right?

But now we're just doing it faster and to a level so that it doesn't pile up on the streets.

Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. And then, just, again, about the money, I heard you say at least one of the things, slide three I wrote down. It's FDOT funded, Broward County, and CRA funding combined, Correct. How we're paying for a lot of this?

Yeah, there was grants that was given to the county. It's a very complex I don't know all exactly the math of how the FDOT pump stations are going, but was part of the Florida Resiliency Grant and others. So you're getting assistance on those first four FDOT pump stations to put those in.

JULIE Yeah. The reason I'm asking about all this is just because when we're talking about future planning and I know there's just so much that is uncertain right now about what funds will be available. If, for example, there's legislation that reduces the property tax revenue and how that could affect any and all thoughts that we have about the future. That's why I'm trying to better understand how much things cost and where the money could potentially come from. And this is not just for us who are in the room, but for the public.

All of our conversations really should be, which is one of the reasons I think it's Okay that I'm asking questions that many of you already know the answers to because some of the public may not know. And just keeping that in mind as we plan for what happens next is that we may need to find other ways to fund. So and then at some point, I just need to get an understanding of what it is we're voting at because we

Well, today, we're not voting on anything. It's a presentation, just talking about our plan going forward and getting John's recommendations on the outlook, adding some of our own feedback as well to result in the best, quickest result we can offer while the long term pumps you know, are going be an endeavor for the state and the county and us together.

Right. One last question. Why did the Wapro valve collapse?

The

one that collapsed that was just recently installed. Do we know what happened? Anyone?

What, like a failing pump? A failing backflow, you're saying?

Yeah, there was one that collapsed.

I guess the rubber item just maybe

happens,

I have But it's the best product on the market, you could arguably say, the most

It's one of the most it's made with stainless steel, so it's more resilient. It has a more resilient rubber. Some of the if something gets stuck in it in certain other manufacturers, it can mold to whatever was stuck in there and not seal properly. So other cities have had really good success. The cities had good success with these. They're long as they are wide so they need their own structure. They need access. But we specify them all over.

I just want to also tell you how much I appreciate your work. I've learned so much from

Here you teach.

And I appreciate your patience when I ask these questions. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Vice Chair. Let's go to Board Member Biederman.

Just to be clear, Scott Street is, I think, the biggest dip there is. I mean, go there on a regular basis and it's Bob is correct. It's always flooded. Is it possible that that road is one of the worst because of the vacant land next to it is so high? And it's just water shedding off of that parcel that is undeveloped?

You see how high that whole lot is? It's got to be shedding off into that street. So maybe we could work with the property owner to do something that won't shed their water on our easements. Don't all speak at once.

Potentially, I

mean Anybody?

You'd have to take a look at it.

I feel like I'm in Ferris Bueller here. Anybody?

JOSHUA John, any merit to that question? Or could that not be the cause? I mean, Kevin's bringing up a possibility. He's asking if there's

Yeah, something to go on the runoff comes from all over. And based on the geometry of that road, it may be holding the water there, depending on the imperviousness and stuff. There's a pump station slated for that to handle it in the future.

So is there something we could do that is maybe more economical? Like, can we excavate that road, put storm tanks underneath it, and then lay the pavers back down so that the water will percolate down into a cavity somehow?

So this area is so low, there's no percolation. It's actually coming up. It's going the opposite way.

So what if we were to do some kind of

DANIEL So the tank would require

100 gallon concrete septic tank or catch basin that could store the water underneath the road instead of it being on the road.

You could size something like that. I don't know if it's going to be more than 1,500 gallons to handle that, but still required to be pumped out, whether that's by Vactor or not. Mean, there are things you can do for isolated. But at a certain point, the water is just going to come and overwhelm it.

So that's all rising water, not from a rain?

No, it's from both. It's rising water on this day right here when there was no rain, and it's rain on other days.

So can we get some kind of a I mean, if we agree, some kind of a cost estimation of creating underground water storage and connect it to an outfall somewhere that is going to help that situation on a regular basis without us having to raise the road, just have some kind of underground storage?

JOSHUA Underground storage can work. It can't be full when the rain starts, right? It has to constantly be I

understand that.

JOSHUA I mean, there are things that can be done. You can put something under that road, I guess.

And how much of where's the property line on the property of the South? Maybe this Maybe we create a recapture our swale project along here that we could have some water shed off the road, right? Is this green space ours? Or is that the property line? The sidewalk is the property line?

Yes. In this case, the back of the sidewalk that abuts the green space, That green space is all private property.

JOSHUA Okay. So is it possible that we can come up with an agreement between us and a property owner that allows them something for future development in exchange for giving us this 10 feet of green space as a swell area to drain off some of the road to? I mean, that help? Or is that just not enough dry retention area to dry off the street?

I haven't done the calculations. But just looking at it, that's not enough area.

But to your point, Borje

and Beederman, when they do come forward with something for the property, the rules require them to keep all of their rainfall on property. So whether that's swale, underground structure, or whatever method, just like every other property, they'll be required to.

Right. But maybe we could do something in the meantime. I mean, do we have communication with the property owner? Because I think they're running an illegal parking lot at this point.

No, they're not running a parking lot. I think it's

I don't know. I see cars parked there on a regular basis.

I think it's the construction cars for the project a couple blocks away.

Okay. So we allow under our parking ordinance or under our vacant space ordinance, the rental of that land to and I'm not looking to create animosity anywhere. But rental of that land for the use of parking

It's not really the issue before us. If you want to bring it up later, let's

do that. But it's creating an undue hardship on our right of ways by having water shed off of that land.

Well, think the city required them to elevate it when they built a temporary parking lot years ago that we allowed.

You can see the berm in the picture there.

So all I want to know is if staff can reach out to them and see if we can promise some future development concession in exchange for giving us this right of way for a swell area to dry off the street.

We will contact the property owner and have that discussion with them.

I mean, we have agreement amongst us to try and work something out? Okay.

We will do that and see if there's any progress to be made there.

And then this could be a test project. If this works, we could use it in other areas. Thank you.

All right. Let's go to board member Hernandez. Then I have final comments with board members Shuham and Kaleri.

Thank you, mayor. One of the things that since we've asked for a public records request mayors, We've asked for a public records request to the DOT director for our area, correct?

Correct.

Maybe what we should do, rather than to they may think that it's busy work ask their procurement department for a copy of the contract that issued the maintenance. Number one, let's look for the maintenance, which I think is the one thing that I was looking to see if we could actually do some of the maintenance and then try to see if we can get reimbursed on the maintenance. So if you ask their procurement department for the contract or their bid, that should have the contract language for the maintenance. And maybe we can try to find either a piggyback or be able to do it ourselves. And now we know we can just talk to them directly that we already have the thing.

Regarding the millions of dollars that the DOT is spending in front of us, maybe the MPO can help provide some of that funding for that. And that will be something that we can just we have a member that sits on the MPO. We can say how crucial this is for us to be able to have or speed money up. I'm with the mayor. I don't agree that we should try to spend tens of millions of dollars for something that then in the hopes that we get that refunded.

Because what if we don't? Then we got stuck spending the money and not having it. And I think vice mayor asked, where is this money going to come from? Broward County is sitting on $3,000,000,000 for the penny transportation tax. Then maybe we can ask for some of that money to raise this road because this is transportation related.

So one way or the other, we've got to ask anybody and everybody that has funding available, whether it's for this or anything else. But if we don't ask, we can't be turned down because we never ask. So maybe this is something that this is an important road for the county, for the city, for the state. And maybe something that if we can pull everybody together, we may be able to come up with the money, even if we have to come up with some of our own in order to make it work. But I think that the effort needs to be there for us to ask, see if this money is available.

Because you're right, the residents in this case, the district too, but overall, the residents of the city of Hollywood due to being affected. Our bottom line is being affected because we rely on tourism. And anybody that comes here during the summer and has a bad experience because of the king tides or the flooding that we experience, they're going to tell their friends. And they're not going to come neither in the summer nor the winter because of their experience. So we need to be able to have a comprehensive approach in order to get this thing done.

As far as the other, I think that the CRA staff that walks the street on a day to day basis, they can give us a summary of what they see, which are the worst roads that they feel needs first attentions. And then we can go from there for our funding as to where to go from this. The CRA is not going to be around forever. And so we need to be able to put these things in perspective and start putting it in the front burner. Because these things are happening.

I mean, they've been happening for years and we now see how long it takes to get any progress. Not you, you've been able to tell us what it is that we need and how we need it. But even getting the powers to be to come to the table to sit and talk to us. Never mind money. Just to even talk to us, we can't get them at the table.

And the other one is if you can't get the procurement department to provide this thing within fifteen days, then maybe we need to hire somebody that actually puts their coin on the line in order to get this thing done. Don't want to sacrifice the millions of dollars of investment that they're doing in the city. But at the same time, I think that all we're looking for at this point is information. We ought to be able to get that, even if we have to take them to the brink of saying, look, we really need to get this happen. Otherwise, alternatively, we're going to go to court and get it one way or the other. That would be my suggestion.

Absolutely. And I would need direction to enter suit, of course, if that was the direction you all chose to take.

Yeah, no. At this point, I think that it's Okay if I don't know if I need support from my we've already asked in the past. But I'm just saying, rather than to ask the director, which he may have a lot in his table, if you have the procurement department directly, they ought to be able to have this information readily available.

Yeah, I will say it's surprising to me that they haven't responded because any time I contact the district secretary, he's very responsive. So I want to make him aware of this. It could be that he's not aware of it. I'm going to call him after this meeting's over.

Okay. It may be the case that it be something in email that somebody else, one of his subordinates are supposed to be handling, and they haven't, and it doesn't come to his table. But if you go directly to the procurement department, they have the contracts at hand.

I just want to be clear that it's not that there's been no response. It's that we've been working with some FDA liaison, and we simply have not obtained the documents as of this time. They said that they're still looking for it. They're looking for people to do a deeper dive. They said they haven't been able to locate what we've been asking for. But there have been responses. So I don't want to characterize it as though So

hold on. Maybe what they're referring to I think one of us asked for the records of the actual job, like the contractor's notes for the maintenance to kind of look at what was done and what wasn't done. But the most simple parts to start with is the agreement itself. And that must be at the ready that they can email in like two seconds. So maybe instead of waiting for the whole enchilada, which includes the worker notes, which is maybe what we wanted also, let's just ask in the meantime for the agreement, to everyone's point.

I agree. I think that we did ask for the maintenance records of those particular things. That may be whether they exist or whether they're making them. The truth is, it may not exist. They may not be keeping the record. So I like your idea. If we get the agreement, we can just try to get an agreement with them based on that procurement that they've done to see if we can get reimbursed at the same rate if we actually do the work. Because I believe that they have it on schedule for annually and we may need to do it biannually. This way we can put our Vactor truck to work, satisfy what we have, and then have them pay for it. And this way, their contractor can keep up with other areas that they're not probably keeping up at this time.

I'll focus on getting that agreement.

Thank you. All right. Board Member Shuham.

Really quick. You had mentioned something earlier, chair, and I wanted to touch base on it, back on it. And that was regarding an ordinance to mandate backflow preventers. We have a situation in the lakes, and it's happening a lot. And I mentioned it at our last meeting in my comments, where homes are being elevated as they're being rebuilt, which is great. But water is flowing onto their neighbors' yards. And I asked staff and it's in Allison's update to take a look at what we could do code wise. It's very peculiar, what we have. You have to keep the water on your property during construction. You have to there was a second one.

And then there's a third one that says, you can't harm neighboring property. Something very vague like that. So I haven't had a chance to follow-up with Allison and staff. But to me, in light of where we're heading climate wise and all of this money that we as a city are investing, we need ordinances that mandate people handle their own storm water always. And I know you have a concern about existing properties.

We can handle it. But I personally don't feel that we have the tools in our toolbox to enforce these things. And it goes to your point about private businesses. Even though they're businesses, they still can't infringe on the neighboring property, which is either ours or FDOT's. So I think there's a kind of a vague thing now that code can look to make your suggestion a reality. But I firmly believe we need to do something in our ordinances. That's it. Thanks.

All right. Board Member Kalari to close it out.

And I'm just going to bring up one last thing that sorry you're staying there so long, but thank you. Thank you for the presentation. And I know that I've asked this before, and really it's for staff. But any you know, we talk about new development and then recapturing the swale and so forth and so on. I think that this is really a great opportunity.

I don't know how it can be done. And I believe that I've been told that it's very challenging by impact fees with any type of development that goes in, in the area of new development, redevelopment, that we can resource some of that funding to make sure that they help cover the cost of these pump stations, of these flooding areas, raising of the roads. I think that that would be something really beneficial and help with the costs as well. And I know that we do have some mechanism, but I think if we could really focus in on the impacts that this new development or redevelopment has on how improving the street structures and the flooding impacts that it may cause, that that would be a benefit.

I would just say that the reality is that the current rules require them to handle their own water and that cities oftentimes ask projects to handle things outside of their boundaries, and that there is actually state law, I think, that's actually being considered right now to put a lid on the cities going too far. Meaning it's our infrastructure to maintain. They're not causing an issue. We can't ask them to handle things that the city should be handling a mile away. And so obviously, I agree with your point. But at the same time, cities have also gone too far. I mean, you can only ask so much from someone building what they can by right on their own property and abiding by the rules of their own drainage.

JOSHUA And they do pay impact fees.

JOSHUA They

pay impact fees.

And we should be investing it.

JOSHUA We're investing in our funding as well. But if it's going to benefit the surrounding area and livability, community, and so forth and so on

JOSHUA But that takes

place so win win, right? So I think there's always that opportunity for the ask. Now, we're not going to force, but I think the ask and implement it, I think, would be benefit. Because if you're developing something or redeveloping something in your community, you want your community to be better. And what's the hugest thing that we're talking about, especially down on the beach, is the flooding. So we can implement that some way into our requests and work hand in hand. And that is a partnership.

Agreed, agreed. All right, so can you go back to your recommendations page and we'll summarize for the staff so that we all have a so the first one is a repair and maintenance of the FDOT system, which we all talked about. That goes in hand in hand with the agreement. A potential joint agreement with FDOT for the future, sure, it could land there. But at the same time, we know that FDOT has this responsibility that we don't need to undertake on our own.

The pipe lining and sealing is certainly something that FDOT should realize is necessary for their pipes. We have taken initiative for the pipe inspections, as I said here. That's also to get them to the table on that. The pump stations John's point of the Magnolia Pump station to be an infill sort of station and the sequencing of the pump stations to prevent a gap is well taken. Installing the city backflow preventers, not only at Iris Terrace executive director, but everywhere on the beach.

That was the first comment that we made, to have that redundancy there. And obviously, the combination of methods and closing it out with also looking at the raising of central beach streets that need to be raised and just for us to corral all the solutions backflow prevention, raising of dips, and pumps together to result in the best result that we can. And then on top of all this, how do we require private property backflow preventers for those that are insufficient right now. And then on top of that is the private property seawalls and the public seawalls to make sure that we don't have overflow as well. So really, that's the comprehensive toolbox.

And some of it is definitely going to be decades in the works in terms of all the $10 plus million pump stations each. But some of them will handle as soon as possible, which is the redundancy backflow preventers at all the structures. And I think the ordinance could be done quickly as well to help with that. So Susan, any issues with any of that summary?

No, I think the only the other the additional item was having a long term funding agreement with FDOT on pumps throughout the district. Was brought up. All

right, well, see where that lands. Yeah, agreed. All right, George. I think we summarized it and we're handling everything A to Z there. John, you good with that?

Yes.

Yeah. All right. Thank you.

And you do have a decision whether you want to accelerate those two CRA pump stations or wait until FDOT does theirs, where the gap areas are. If you have the money, we've shown that it works.

And with those two CRA pump stations, real quick, obviously four are under construction right now. For us to construct those two, we would need to get into design, engineering.

One of them is already designed and permitted. One of them is already in a preliminary design. So we use that. That's how we knew it worked.

Alright. So so to the extent that board member Hernandez reminded us, of course, that the CRA is not here forever, and we've got dollars, then executive director for our first or upcoming meetings in the New Year. Let's talk about some dollar allocation because we only have one extra fiscal year after this one. And so the board will be able to prioritize even before the capital improvement plan and the budget season. Let's get moving on the board direction on investing those dollars where they need to be. All right?

All right. Thank you for your time.

All right.

Thank you. Board Member Schuham, anything?

DANIEL Well, it's just not for Jonathan. But just, you know, it'll be interesting because if I agree, let's go, go, go on those two pumps. But the funding, the way it all work out is the CRA expends the funds, and the city will be reimbursed the funds just because of the timing.

But we're not there yet.

We're not there yet, but it's just something to keep in mind. Thanks. All

right. All right. That concludes item number nine. Informational reports about previous month's activity or any information. Go ahead, executive director.

Thank you, Mr. Chair and vice chair and board members. Obviously, we've covered some things I was going to talk about already. But suffice it to say on the FDOT issue, in addition to the attempts we've already made, we're going to be more aggressive and more formal with our correspondents now and see where that takes us. It's a very frustrating situation, but we'll stay after it.

I did want to thank, after attending many downtown meetings with the merchants and Burkhart folks, how appreciative I am of having a contractor like Burkhart that is very attentive and focused to the details of what they do and how it impacts people. They do take it sensitively and seriously and appreciate how they stay after that. So I wanted to thank them and then thank Susan and Francisco for how they worked out some and are in the process of working out some design solutions for one of the downtown merchants that had some conflicts there with the work. And that's turned out to be a positive situation as well. So thank you on that.

Right. Thank you. Is there any update on the Charnelle Park refresh? Maybe tell us what the CRA staff has been up to on Charnelle. Is it DCM? I don't know. Susan? Yeah? Go ahead.

DCM has been heading up that effort, so they would be the best ones to provide that update.

Okay. All right. Let's go to comments by the board members, General Counsel Executive Director. Board Member Coleri, anything today? Board Member Gruber?

I just want

to wish everybody the happy holidays. One thing I did notice downtown last night was the what are those barricades painted? They look great. I took pictures of them.

Some of them have signage? No, they

have I think all the ones I saw have signage, whether it's pointing to parking or to the arts park or thank you for visiting. So well done. Thank you. That looks great. Yep.

And Positive that's note. Thank you. Positive. Board member Biederman.

No comments today.

Vice Chair Quintana.

I'll wave, Chair.

Board Member Schuham.

VICTORIA Just also want to wish everybody a beautiful holiday and thank the CRA staff for their efforts in keeping the downtown and the beach moving in a great direction. And tell everybody that on Saturday night, downtown is SantaCon. So you have to wear a little something holiday related. And come on down. They're collecting, I think, unwrapped toys. And I believe it starts at Mickey Burns. So thank you.

Thank you. Let's get to Board Member Hernandez.

Thank you, Mayor. I'd also like to thank the CRA director and staff for not only having those meetings, but actually attending the meetings and getting involved into what's going on. It keeps a finger on the pulse of what's going on there. So thank you both. Also, I'd like to bring to the attention of the board that we have parking issues in the downtown that are being worked out.

There's also one of our large tenants in one of the garage and I'm not going to mention any names that have not been paying their dues. And some of their residents happen to be the biggest complainers about what we're trying to structure in the downtown. And I've asked our city attorney to actually take a look at the contract to see what it is that we can do. Because right now, everybody thinks that we're the bad guys, when in fact we're not. I like to gauge the commission I mean, the board to see if the tenant doesn't continue to pay their bills.

Do we close the garage to their access, forcing their subtenants to actually either park on the street or approach the issue with them? Because what we're trying to do is, according to the contract that we have with that tenant, but the tenant had just reneged on paying at least the last couple months, going on three months, that they haven't paid us what the dues are. So kind of staff is working through this. But I think that it'd be great to give them some kind of sense of direction as to where do we stand as a board. And maybe the commission, if the city attorney tells me that may need to bring it up at the city commission level.

But I think that we've done everything that we can as an authority, parking authority, to work with them. They just continue to want more and more. And these are some of, this tenant is the same tenant that has created some of the woes that their residents are having because of this. They used to have four thirty eight parking spaces. They minimized it to two fifty three. Now, own tenants don't have a place to park in their garage because of them. And now, they're not even paying us their rent. So I'd like to get a feel for some of the

So you bring up a very valid issue. I would say that everything the agreement controls what our options are. So maybe we'll get a memo from legal, Peter, on what recourse the city has under the agreement. And if it needs to come to a decision of the city commission to direct whatever relief we can seek under the agreement. If don't pay in the meantime, yeah, I agree. We can't just let it run.

Okay. So I have support. Okay. So thank you. We'll get the agreement. And then this way, it'll come back to us before we take a stand. But at the end of the day, it gives the parking authority some kind of direction as to where the board stands. Like, we're not going to tolerate you not paying for us. Because at the end of the day, it's parking that we've taken away from other people in order to provide it to them. And the affected individuals may not even know that this is happening.

But I just wanted to bring that up. I'd like to wish everybody Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. I also like to let everybody know that Polk Street is going to be closed because of re striping that's going to be taking place this Sunday, if I got the memo correctly. We're going to just put it out there on social media as well if we can. But I like the people to just be cognizant of what's going on. I also like to ask and thank the business community in the downtown area to actually reach out if there's anything that they're seeing that needs attention by the CRA or the commission. And I'd like to thank everybody. Happy holidays. Thank you, sir.

Thank you. Well, happy holidays indeed. I did notice to folks at the CRA, I did notice a construction fence on the post office parcel that is basically screening off with a chain link fence and some green screening the sort of the the East Grass Plaza, to use a word, of the post office. I don't know if that's to prevent vagrancy or I think there's a sign for a demolition contractor. There seems to be a detached building on the post office block that is on the east side.

So if you could just inquire as to what that fence is for and maybe send an email to the board members. I think we'd all like to know just what the purpose is and if that's something that should remain, if they're just doing it for not for demolition purposes, if that's a permitted situation there or not. It's obviously not sightly. And I don't know if they planned on leaving that forever because they didn't want to shoo people away. I'm just speculating here. Or they're planning to demolish that East Building. I don't know. So if you could please get to us on that. Happy holidays. And I will turn it over to general counsel for any comments.

Happy holidays, everyone. No comments.

Executive director, anything else today?

Nope. Same as well. Thank you.

All right. Thanks, everyone. This meeting's adjourned. See you in twenty twenty six CRA.