City Council - Regular Meeting

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Hello. Hello. Ladies and gentlemen, my pleasure to call to order the Highland Park City Council in person and virtual regular meeting scheduled for today, Monday, March March 2nd, 2026 at 700 p.m. Uh, Madame Clerk, would you please call the role?

Council Pro Tim Robinson. Councilwoman Manica here. Councilwoman Martin here. Councilman Ashi present. Council President Thomas here. Thank you. We have a meeting shall proceed. Moving on to item three, the approval of the agenda. The chair will pause and allow members to uh make a motion or recommendation on approval of tonight's agenda.

I want to approve of the agenda tonight's agenda with a walk-on with a resolution to approve the Highland Park, Michigan week parade on Willard Avenue. And can we put that up under um council affairs? We have to create uh can we do that Mr. President? So I would like to we want to have citizens participation after we finish with our vote. So why don't we move why don't we create item seven. I'm sorry. Yeah. Let's create let's move this to item seven. Can we do that?

Item seven. Item seven. Okay. So, you're talking about under engineering department, we're going to create uh item. Number seven. Yeah. Item seven. And council affairs will become item eight. Okay. You know what? You know what? Got it. I got that. Okay. Uh because I would like to have this before citizens participation. Okay. Why don't you just amend the agenda of item seven council affairs? Yeah, council representation. I would rather not. I would rather not. Yeah, I was going to say, don't we speak on council? We do. So, um let's go ahead and put it at council affairs item 7A.

Okay. I want to second uh with a a walk on as well and would ask that it be placed as 7B. 7B. Yes, sir.

So, we have a motion on the floor to approve tonight's agenda made by Councilwoman Martin. Her recommendation is that we amend the agenda to include under item 7A, a resolution to approve the Highland Park, Michigan week parade route on Woodward Avenue. Support was offered by Mr. Shopei with an amendment also uh adding to the agenda the ordinance yet to be numbered amending the city of Highland Park zoning ordinance to prohibit immigration detention holding processing and staging facilities providing definitions and providing for enforcement. Do we have additional discussion on this for the agenda? Yes, ma'am. No, I don't.

Okay. Having made those, having the motions being made, the amendments being addressed, um I would ask that these items be read into the record. Okay. Absolutely. Okay. If you would please.

As a resolution to approve the Highland Park Michigan week parade route on Werew Avenue. Whereas the city the Michigan's week parade is longstanding community tradition celebrating civic pride culture, the history of our state and the city of Highland Park. And whereas the Parker Pride Alumni Foundation has requested approval to return the Michigan week parade to Woodward Avenue. And whereas the proposed route on Wilward Avenue will provide greater visibility, accessibility, and community engagement. And whereas the Michigan Department of Transportation, MD DOT, requires a minimum of 60 days advanced notice following formal city council approval in order to coordinate logistics, public safety, traffic control, and permitting. And whereas time is of the essence and approval is needed immediately in order to meet the required 60-day submission timeline. Now therefore be it resolved that the Highland Park City Council hereby approves the Michigan parade the Michigan week parade for now on to be held on Willard Avenue between Six Mile and Tennyson subject to all required permits coordination with public safety officials and compliance with applicable laws and ordinances. Be it therefore resolved that the city clerk is directed to provide written confirmation of this approval so that the Parker Pride Alumni Foundation may immediately submit the required documentation to the appropriate agencies within the mandated 60-day time frame.

Thank you very much for reading that in the record. Mr. Shppy, would you be kind enough to read item? Council

President Okay. So, so 7B, uh, an ordinance amending the city of Highland Park zoning ordinance to prohibit immigration detentions, holdings, processes, stagings, staging facilities, providing, excuse me, providing definitions, and providing for enforcement. The city of Highland Parks ordinance section one proposes and I'm telling you an intent. This ordinance is adopted to Excuse me. I don't have my glasses on.

Where you at? Yeah. Where you at? Uh yeah, my glass. I thought I I'll read it. Where you at? I got another running together on me. Sorry. Take your time. Huh? [clears throat and laughter] Appreciate you. You have it. Okay.

I got I got I got a little piece of one here. Hold on a second. Okay. All right. Okay. This ordinance adopted to promote the public health, safety, and general welfare of the city of Highland Park and to ensure that no property in the city is used for immigration detention, civil immigration holding, processing, or staging activities inconsistent with city policy and land use intent. Section two, amendments, excuse me, amendments to definitions. Chapters uh 12:30 definitions. The city of Highland Park zoning ordinance includes chapter 1230 rules of construction and organization and definitions. Chapter 1230.02 02 definitions is hereby amended by adding the following definition in alphabetical order. A city immigration detention facilities, a building, structure, premises, property, or portions thereof used for the confinement, detention, restraint, or custody of individuals for civil civil, I'm excuse me, civil civil immigrations enforcement purposes, including but not limited to detention pending Um, excuse me. [clears throat]

Immigration detention py immigration. Immigration. Yeah. I'm I'm sorry. Just running together on me. You're good. You're good.

Uh, processing, deportations, removal, or transfers. B, civil immigration holding facilities. Any use, facility, location, or portions of a building where individuals are held temporarily or otherwise restrained for civil immigration enforcement purposes, including temporary holdings, bookings, intakes, processes, or transports, waiting. Uh C, Immigrations Enforcement Entity, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, ICE Customs and Border Protection, CBP, US Border Patrol, and any I'm I'm sorry, and any agent, contractor, affiliate, or or or entity acting on behalf of such agencies for immigration enforcement operations. [snorts] D. Immigration processing facilities slashstaging areas. Any facility used, location, or portions of a building used for immigrations enforcement activities, including but not limited to processing, booking, intaking, uh um say transportation, uh uh I'm I'm sorry. Uh transport coordination, development, staging,

deployment, staging. It Thank you.

You're welcome. uh interviews, interrogations, administrative operations, or other activities supporting immigration detentions or removals. Section three, prohibited use all zoning districts. Chapter 1250. Chapter 1250 of the zoning ordinance governing zoning districts and permitted special use. A new subsection is hereby added to chapter 1250.04 permitted and special use. Okay. 1250 prohibited use immigrations detention and holding. One prohibited citywide. The following use are hereby declared prohibited within the city of Highland Park and shall not be permitted by any zoning district as a principal use, accessory use, temporary use, special land use, conditional use, or by various A civil immigration detention facilities, B civil immigration holding facilities, or C immigration processing facility/staging areas. Two, no workaround allowed. The prohibited use listed above shall not be allowed under any other use classification, including but not limited to uh office, warehouse, public safety, institutional,

government service, transportation facilities, temporary use or essential services. Three, industrial/warehouse classifications for avoidance of doubt. The prohibited use in this section are not allowed in any district including industrial warehouse, manufacturing or transportations related districts. Section four, limited exemption exempting local facilities only. Not in this ordinance shall be shall be construed to prohibit one the continued operation of the Highland Park Police Department holding facility solely for lawful detention of individuals under local criminal jurisdiction. and two, [clears throat] the continued operations of the existing juvenile justice detention center in the city solely for the lawful juvenile justice detention purpose. Section five, firewall. No federal immigration enforcement operations from exempt facilities, even where the limited exemptions in section 4 apply. One, no portion of either either exempted either exempted facility may be used by an immigration enforcement entity for any purpose including but not limited to one civil immigration holding for detentions. Two, processing, staging, booking, interviews, interrogations and three administrative operations or

transport operations. Two, no city approval, including occupancy, business license, certifications, contracts, or agreements shall be issued. And [clears throat] I'm sorry, that allow prohibited immigration enforcement operations to occur from the exempt facilities. Section six, enforcement one. Any use established or operated in violation of this ordinance shall constitute a zoning violation subject to enforcement through all lawful remedies, including but not limited to civil infractions, injunctive relief, or any remedy authorized by the city code and state law. section uh two the zoning I'm sorry the zoning administrator is hereby directed not to issue any permits approvals or occupancy detentions that would allow a prohibited use under this ordinance section seven uh excuse Lord have mercy. That is running together. Okay. I'm sorry. Uh section seven seability. Uh if any portion of this ordinance is found invalid by a court or competent

jurisdiction, the remedy shall remain in full force and effect. Section 8, repeal of inconstitute provisions. All ordinances of or part of ordinances in in conflict are repealed to the extent of the of the conflict. Section nine effective date. This ordinance shall take effect after adoption and publication as required by law.

Thank you very much. So because this is an ordinance, this will qualify as a first reading. Yes, your first reading will stand on the record. When the time comes, we will vote on the first reading. Okay.

Because of the nature of this particular ordinance and we are talking about the attempt to supersede federal law, I would recommend that this go to a workshop after this first reading and the the additional um legal language has to be reviewed in some detail. I made some notes as we go went along. There are a couple of things here where we do not have the authority. We cannot tell the zoning administrator not to issue a permit that is required by the federal government. And so what I'd like to do is allow your first reading to stand and that we vote tonight on the first reading and that from this meeting that we set up a workshop to have a further legal review. Okay.

There are I won't

I won't belabor the point because I think in the workshop we can address it. There are a number of things. Um, looking at the legal language, I don't know who prepared this, but looking at the legal language, we we kind of trip over ourselves in a few areas. I will allow um the professionals from McKenna and our legal department to point those things out. I'm not an urban planner, nor am I an attorney, so I won't venture into that area. But as it stands, I appreciate both of you reading these things into the record. We'll go back to the motion that's on the floor, which is the approval of tonight's agenda. There was a motion made by Councilwoman Martin, seconded by Councilman Ashi to approve tonight's agenda with the following amendments. The addition of under council affairs. Item A, the resolution to approve the Michigan Week parade. Item B, uh, the zoning ordinance for ice facilities first reading. Uh, would you mind taking a role on approval of tonight's agenda, Madam Clerk?

Councilwoman Manica. Yes. Councilwoman Martin. Yes. Councilman Oshaki. Yes. Council President. Yes. Motion carries. The next item is item four, the approval of the proposed minutes for the virtual inperson regular meeting held on February 17th, 2026. City Council, what's your pleasure on this item? I move to approve the proposed minutes of the virtual inperson regular meeting held February 17th, 2026. Chairwall, for a second. Do we have questions, concerns, or dissent? Madam clerk, if you will call the role on the approval of the minutes. Councilwoman Madaka. Yes. Councilwoman Martin. Yes. Oafi. Yes. Council President Thomas.

Yes. Motion carries. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to turn the floor over to Mayor McDonald so that she may address city council and the public.

Turn my back. Good evening everyone. Good evening. Um I I really don't have much. I only want to let everyone know starting this month there'll be construction going on. New 48 street lights will be going up in the city of Highland Park. So watch for that. Make sure that you are not parking on the side of the street if it's your street and uh that they're going to be working on. So when you see them out there, please uh move your cars because that will start preliminary start this month and it will go to and uh that's all I got. You guys have a great day.

Thank you so much, ma'am. Okay, moving on to our business under item five, community development. This item was tabled from February.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm ready to get I'm going on three hours, four hours sleep tonight, folks. So, this is I'm going to set the timer for 2 minutes and 15 seconds. I'm going to start with the people online. Uh for the folks online, Mr. Tucker, I'm going to ask you to unmute and if you would be so kind to wait for me. We are talking about agenda items. Item five under community development is a tabled item. Uh the resolution to adopt the Highland Park economic development strategy plan. Under item six is the engineering department resolution authorizing the submission of federal aid funding from the Wayne County Federal Aid Committee. Uh item 6B is a resolution authorizing the submission for federal aid funding from the Wayne County Federal Aid Committee. Uh item seven under city council is a resolution to approve the Michigan week parade and the first reading of the zone zoning ordinance related to ice facilities. So Mr. Tucker online, I'm going to start with you. I'll set the timer for two minutes. If you will be kind enough to kick us [clears throat] off, you can go right ahead, sir. I'll start the timer once you give us your name.

Yes. Can you hear me? I can. Okay. Hello everyone. My name is uh Mr. Anthony Tucker. I live at uh Bun Visine Second and Woodward. And the item that you was talking about the Wayne County federal funding for what now? The it is a surface transportation program urban for the repair of Glendale Avenue between the city boundaries and Hamilton Avenue. The second one is for uh it's again it's an urban it's a transportation it's a surface transportation program for the repair of Oakman Boulevard between the city boundary and Hamilton Avenue. Sir, I'm gonna pause and give you an additional seconds because I took your time. Go right ahead.

Yes. I was just wondering uh um those particular through there um and that's just for the only two two areas. Will they ever do anything for Avalon between second between Woodward and second and second to third on Avalon? Let me pause here. So during during this uh citizen participation, you you can feel the question and at a if someone one of city council wants to address it, we're not in a position to do so, but if you could

the folks from MCA are here and so they hear your question and at some point in the future, we're hoping that they're able to answer that question for you if that's sufficient. Okay. Thank you. That's that's I just I was I was concerned about Glendale because I go down there a lot or go through that area a lot and that's at least that's a start, but we have a lot of streets. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Okay, I have Mr. Mark Ashley Price. If you give me just a second, Mr. Price, I will have you to unmute and go ahead and speak for us, sir. Okay. Can Can you hear me? I can.

Okay. Okay. Um, my my name is Mark Ashley Price. I'm the ambassador for the Holland Park School District. Um my agenda item was about the Michigan parade, the Michigan week parade. Um and I just wanted um members of city council to vote yes about the Michigan week parade because I'm very supportive of that. So I hope city council will for yes about that. Thank you so much. Thanks, sir. Okay, that's all of our people online. I will transition over to people in the room. Is there anyone in the room that would like to make a comment related to tonight's agenda? If the answer to that is no, then we will move on to our business starting with I'm sorry. Go right ahead, ma'am.

Hello. Push the button. Push the button.

Yeah, it's a button. Okay, that's y'all job. [gasps] Anyway, um greetings everyone. What is this um uh STP um program and how much uh money is involved and why are these two locations chosen? And also the mayor mentioned uh 48 street lights going up. Do we know where they're going up at? I guess we'll get the answers later. Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am. Okay, seeing no movement towards the podium, I will move right into item five of the community development. This item was tabled from the February 17th meeting. We've had two workshops on it. Um, so this is the resolution to adopt the Highland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan Document. We need to get a motion to get this removed from the table so it can be discussed. I move to bring the resolution to adopt the Holland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan Document from the table or bring it off the table.

Yep. Chair offer support. Do we have questions, concerns, or dissent? If you will call the role to untab this item, Madame Clerk. Councilwoman Manica, yes. Councilwoman Martin, no. Councilman Ashafi, no. Council President Thomas, yes.

It remains on the table. Uh, point of order. We've had two workshops on this this strategic development plan document. Uh there's one that happen that is currently in place in the city of Detroit. There's one that's in place in the city of Ham Tramik. I would ask the members of city council who voted no on this. Uh at some point we need to understand why we are not adopting a strategic development plan document when our neighbors Hold on. I'm at this is just a point of order. At some point we need to get that question answered. No, I got that.

The new mayor in the city of Detroit has a strategic plan document that is in the record that allows them to proceed for the strategic development of the city of Detroit. The city of Ham Tramik has a strategic plan document with a framework that allows them to move strategic development in the city of Highland Park. And as we move forward with this, we need to understand why our city after a workshop and two meetings does not have a basic strategic plan document that we can approve as a city council. So we'll move on to item five under the Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Mr. President, we just got this paperwork right last that last workshop. Right. So this item first came to us.

Uh m Mr. Clyburn, while before we move on to item, if you will be so kind to help me understand something. We had a workshop on this, did we not? We had this was this came to a regular city council meeting. Am I correct? Yeah. And this is just the document. This is the instruction manual for how the city proceeds with strategic development. Am I correct? I said so what was given last week was at the request because we're moving into doing the master plan. All I did was deliver the current master plan which I gave you. Right. This has nothing to do with economic development. Okay. with the other two that you gave us because you gave us three, right?

And that has nothing to do with that's the national code for this for the entire country. I gave you last week has anything to do with economic development. Oh, okay. Well, that wasn't clear. Okay. Just as for the So, are you saying, Mr. President, we it's too late to take it off the table. We can't ever take it off the table. Would you like to reconsider it today? I'm just saying that we cannot move forward as a city. Well, I want to move forward, but that's not the question. The question is we can't never take it off the table. So, we we had an opportunity tonight to untab this document and discuss it. Yes, Mr. President, or a no? We can take it back off the table. You can also resend today because you Okay. Is it a yes or a no? That is a yes.

Okay. So, let's take it off the table. Are you asking a motion to reconsider? Um, motion reconsider. Let's take it off the table. We have a motion made to reconsider item five made by Councilwoman Martin, seconded by Councilwoman Manica, would you please call the role to reconsider item five, Madam Clerk? Councilwoman Manica, yes. Councilwoman Martin, yes. Councilman Ashi, are we voting for her to reconsider? We are vote on item five that we just stalemated. We're asking for reconsideration for for Miss Martin to reconsider. Not to pull it off the table, but for her to reconsider, right? Yes.

Okay. I'll vote yes for her to reconsider. She got the right to reconsider a vote. President Thomas. Yes. It has been voted that we can reconsider item five. Now, at this point, the chair will entertain a motion to take action on item five, the resolution to adopt the Highland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan Document. Off the table to move this off the table. We I want to make a motion. We're untabling. No, you make We're untabling. Go for it. I want to make a motion to take the resolution to adopt the Highland Park economic development strategy plan document off the table.

Second. We have a motion made by Councilwoman Martin, seconded by Councilwoman Manica to remove from the table [snorts] the resolution to adopt the Highland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan. Would you please call the role on removing that item from the table? Councilwoman Manica, yes. Councilwoman Martin, yes. Councilman Ashi, no. Council President Thomas, yes. The motion has been removed from the table. The chair can entertain a motion to approve the resolution. I move to approve the resolution to adopt the Highland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan Document. Chair offers a second. Is there room for discussion, questions, concern, or descent? Mr. Shar, I got concerns. Council President,

go right ahead.

So, so I'm going I'm going through everything that's been given me and and my issue is it's really not clear as to what this committee is going to be doing. if the council has any oversight, if they're going to be like the planning commission and the decisions in which they make are going to come back to this council and back to this public for review. I'm really not seeing anything that's giving me any clear information about what this is all about. So, my concern is I'm I I really don't have enough information to make an informed decision. And what he did give us uh uh uh last week, he is correct. It had nothing to do with what we were considering. The proposal was very nice, had a lot of pretty pictures, but it didn't give me much information to go on. So, I would like, if possible, if we can get a little bit more information, it's not going to hurt the table for one more council session, it could come back the next council session, but I need a little bit more information than what I got now.

Thank you, sir. Um, director Clyburn, help me with the framework. So, you provided us the draft master plan 2030 that was last approved uh three years ago. 21. Yep. Okay. You also provided us with the standard codes for the entire country as it relates to building codes. Correct. Correct. You had a workshop where McKenna explained this at length. Correct.

This document is the instruction manual on how we proceed with development strategy for our city. Am I correct? Correct. These are like instructions to put together a cabinet. That's it. Okay. Thank you so much, madam. Uh Miss uh Miss Matic had her hand up first and then you, Miss Martin. Okay. So I I just want to be clear to what exactly I maybe you can answer his question right now. I'm not sure but I was trying to figure out I guess what what was the exact question Mr. Shafi? Maybe I I misunderstood it or I didn't hear it. So I was asking if you could tell me what your question was. I was pretty clear, Miss Manica. You know um

my apologies. No, no, no, no. It's It's okay because I love how I get to repeat myself. But, but I am taught to listen the first time around and none of y'all seem to repeat yourselves. But my question and concern is is how this board, this um uh this committee is going to be run. Who's going to sit on it? How is it going to be run? What is the authority in which they're going to have? Uh uh are they going to be like the planning commission and make uh and and make recommendations that are going to come back to this council for approval or will they be independent and autonomous and make the decisions on their own uh you know without telling us anything or coming back to this council for any form of approval. I didn't see any of that detail into any one of these packets that were given to me. Now, I'm being told about about this committee, and I'm being told that there'll be council members who will sit on this committee, but I haven't been given enough information about what this committee is actually going to be doing. Okay? And until I get that information, I'm very uncomfortable with simply just voting yes to allow a committee to function and run. And there's no oversight.

Okay. Thank you. Okay. It's not a committee. It's only an economic development strategy. No committee, just an economic development strategy. You did say that there was a board that was uh I told I said that that council members will be sitting on. Correct.

Not for this. I said it's an economic development strategy. The reason why I provided the master plan is because moving forward, we're going to be doing community engagement to do some upgrades to the master plan, which two council members were invited to join. So the economic development strategy has nothing to do with the committee. Econom the economic development strategy was funded by the state. It was put together by McKenna through community engagement and a steering committee composed of the county, the state, SIMCOG, MEEDC, MISTA, and other um experts in this field to help just strategize how we should move forward economically uh with with the consideration of what's going on in the region. So after, excuse me, sir, after that was put together,

then we move into updating the master plan. With those things in mind, we looked at some goals. We looked at what's going on, like I said, in the region, the funding sources, things of that nature, so we can align with other communities that are growing. That's it. Economic development strategy. Will this strategy plan be brought back to this council and back to this public for consideration?

This is the economic development strategy. There's no coming back. This is it. This is the draft that we're looking for approval for. Now, when we get to the master plan, that will be coming back to council. does need to be adopted by council. That's why we asked two council members to join the conversation to develop the the um the upgrades to the master plan. So the master plan, economic development strategy, two separate documents, the economic development strategy is already completed. You have the draft in front of you. That's what we did the workshop on. We had two or three engagements with the community to get to some of these points last year brought to you. It went through planning commission was approved for recommendation by the council.

Miss Martin. Okay. So, I'm confused. I'm I'm confused myself. Okay. So, you did mention the master plan. You did mention the code of ordinances, but you said that that didn't have anything to do with So, I'm confused because I brought this. You said this had nothing to do with I will I will I will do what I can.

I'm confused. Let me I'm gonna I'm gonna allow Director Clber, but let me just let me just reiterate this. I sat on the planning commission for six years. I was the chairman of the zoning board of appeals for this city for eight years. Eight years. That's a total of 13 years in planning and zoning. It reads like the words that are on the paper. It is so transparent. It's so straightforward. It says this is our strategy. It [snorts] is underguarded by the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, the Southeastern Michigan Council of Govern Council of Governments, the County of Wayne, the state of Michigan, and our economic development department. It is so straightforward that I could give it as an assignment at my high school. It it it reads like the paper. This is our strategy. It's as simple like changing a tire. You jack the car up. You unscrew the bolt. You take the tire off. You replace it. You screw the bolt. You let the car down. It is that straightforward. This is the plan. We are an impoverished city. So, our economic development strategy would be to deal with blight to knock houses down to try and get developer. It's so straightforward.

It is. it. I'm I'm I'm frustrated because we have had a workshop sat here for almost an hour and went over this. We have had the CD department come in here and read us and give us coloring book illustrations. So, and there are 10,000 people in this city waiting for us to adopt a document that is a set of instructions. And we keep acting like is Swiss stereo and straight. It is so straightforward that it is it's making my head hurt.

So M director Clybr go ahead please.

I just Okay. So just to address your question. So after the workshop, you know, we talked about how, you know, this document is complete as a draft and we we're looking for council to approve it. And after this document, then we're going to start working on the master plan updates, right? So I believe council member Shafi asked for a copy of the master plan so that you can start looking at it and council could start reviewing it. So as we're going through this process to update the master plan, you would already have it. So, I gave it to you not to um get it confused with the economic development strategy. I gave it to you so you could prepare for the master plan updates. So, that that's why I say that document doesn't have anything to do with the economic development strategy per se. So, so the economic development strategy is completing draft form for adoption. The second part of it was to start updating the master plan. This is the current master plan. We're not looking to change the whole master plan. We just want to do some updates. We want to do a housing study because now the state requires when we first adopted it, it didn't have the housing study in there. Now it does. So, you know, we going to do a housing study and move forward to make some updates to the master plan, you know, that document. So, that's why I gave it to you last meeting because I was asked because I was asked to provide it to the council. So, moving forward, you got something to reference. I I gave you the IMPC, International Maintenance Property, because those are the ordinances that we write tickets to. So, it was a sheet that went out to say these are the these are the code and ordinances. So, I just provided that information to you, but neither one of them documents had anything to do with the economic development strategy. It's all for future for for future motions.

Thank you, Carlton. Well, first off, Mr. President, I have no idea where you're triggered. My apologies. Um, my intention is not to trigger you. Um, I did see that. I saw that one was about fencing. I read that, um, another one. So, there's a bunch of ordinances in there. I did read that. I didn't read all of them because it's a lot of reading. It's a lot of reading. The master plan has a lot of reading. Yes, I do know the president was on the zoning board. It has all the boards here. TIFFA, zoning, historic commission, the police and fire commission, all that's on here. You know, the president sat with Kim and Chris and Beverly, all that's in here. It even talks about this master plan even talks about the history of Highland Park of from where it's been.

So, I even like that. But there's some other things. It's a lot of reading since you last gave it to us. That's all I'm saying. I understand where Mr. Shavei is talking about there's there's lack of clarity on how this committee is going to move. It it is a little unclear and from even what I read in in the ordinance that you gave me and then there's a there's a third packet with how many pages is it? This one's got how many? The zoning ordinance. No, I got that. Yeah, there's the zoning ordinance. You gave me this the master plan and something else, right? The zoning ordinance, right? Okay. And there's a lot of p there's a lot of pages.

So I gave it to you pre because those things are we're going to be talking about moving forward, right? Not right now, you know. So like I say, the economic development strategy is already completed in draft form. All we need is an adoption. The next step would to be start tackling the updates to the master plan. So I wanted to give it to you beforehand so you could have it so you can start like you doing now, thumbing through it, looking at it. So when we get to it, you're more familiar with it. So I was trying to be proactive. Okay? And let me just be clear, it's not as simple as changing a tire. I know how to change a tire. I know how to change a tire. I taught my son how to change a tire. This is not as simple as changing a tire. [snorts]

However, it does go over housing, transportation, infrastructure, parks, health and safety, economics. There's a lot that it covers about this city. So So we So the e do you have an economic development strategy? No, I do not. other if unless it's in here. No, no, no. That's that's what we're asking for um adoption. That that that was given in the workshop and given last week to get table. So that's the document that you're asking did I bring it with me today? Did you take did you get a chance to look at that document? I haven't finished all of it. I've even I've started reading this because I'm curious on what is the master plan? Where are we moving? Okay. So look,

where are we moving? Hold on. Mr. President, Mr. President, hold on. Mr. President, I am not I am not to your point and if I have offended you, my apologies. I am not triggered. I am not triggered. I am not triggered. The five of us tone you're triggered. The five of us, these five people are responsible for making decisions that affect the lives of 10,000 people. And if we didn't feel up to the job, we should have never put our name on that affidavit. We cannot read. That's not what we're talking right. You said I was triggered and I'm and I'm apologizing to you, but I'm telling you where I'm at. We should not be in these chairs

if we're not going to get the documents and read them. 10,000 people who said I didn't read them.

are expecting us to make educated decisions on behalf of the entire community. And if among the five of us we cannot read well enough, write well enough or interpret these documents, we are doing a disservice to the people of the city of Highland Park. There is I could take I could grab any random people that are sitting in the gallery right now and exchange them for us and I am fairly certain that any five random people in the gallery will be able to read these documents and make an educated decision about a planning document. And that is what is frustrating me. We have spent something like 8 to 10 hours on this if you add all the meetings up.

Yeah, but we just got this information point of information. Let's just get this last now. Go ahead, Miss Manica. Go ahead and Mr. and then Mr. Shope and then we going for the vote. Just to kind of go ahead just recap for a second. [snorts] Let's just recap just quickly. We're here today right now to approve the economic development strategy plan document. That's it. Let me finish. I'm sorry. Let me finish. This needs to be completed before we can move on to even start the process. Well, that that's what we would like to do. Okay. Yes. Okay. The process for master plan and all that. That's it. I I I gave you those documents because it keeps coming up. So, I just Okay. Okay. So, I'm just recapping here so that we can move forward.

Go ahead. Ask whatever questions you need to. I I don't have a question. I just want to make sure that we are recapping. So, um, wait, let me finish. Just we're recapping. I got interrupted. All we want to do is approve this strategy plan. Then we're going to go next or eventually the two people from council and all the other people who are going to sit with you and everybody else that we supposed to sit with to go back over the master plan, add the housing piece that has to be added. That's when we're going to look at all those other entities. But today, we just need to decide yay or nay on the economic development strategy plan document that was given to us.

Correct. Last week. Thank you. I mean last meeting Mr. Shafi. Yeah. I was simply thinking everybody got into their feelings. We were actually having pretty decent discussion here. Agreed. Okay. It it was a fairly decent discussion. Now, up until this point right now, Mr. Carlton, you explained something that hadn't been explained before. Okay. And I appreciate that. You made something clear for me. And now I get it. I understand it. But it's not, as the council president said, it's not as easy as changing tie. If it's so easy as changing tie, then why is it so hard for the two y'all to express it clearly?

That's a question. Yes. I don't know why you can't understand. I mean, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I guess I gave you too much information saying no. I'm simply saying no sir. No sir. Example, I'm not being sarcastic and nasty with you. Okay. I'm asking an honest legitimate question. Okay. The the main thing that I was asking and you already clarified it which I didn't have earlier. You said that this is just a plan to get us to the next step. Now, you didn't make that clear earlier, and I appreciate you making it clear now. That's all I'm simply saying. Just make it clear to me. Help me to understand where we going here. Okay. Okay. Madam clerk, would you care to call the role on item five? And that way the public can understand along with us.

Okay. Uh, madam clerk, would you call the role on item five, resolution to adopt the Highland Park Economic Development Strategy Plan, if you would. Councilwoman [clears throat] Manica. Yes. Councilwoman Martin. I have some questions. Last question because I'm reading these goals and it says be safe and enjoyable place to walk. So that's the master plan. We're not we're not Okay. We're not after. Okay. Madam clerk, would you call the role? Councilwoman Mar, [clears throat] what are we vote? We're voting on. This is the resolution to adopt the Highland Park economic development strategy plan.

Not this one. Okay. Yes. To vote uh to adopt the plan. Thank you very much, Councilman Ashi. I'm going to stick I'm I'm going to stick with my original note. Y'all can stand on your own with it. [clears throat] Councilman Shopei. I I said no. Madam clerk. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. Council President Thomas.

Yes. Motion carries. Moving on to item six under engineering, a resolution authorizing the submission for the federal aid funding from the Wayne County Federal Aid Committee for fiscal year 2029 STPU surface transportation program urban for the repair of Glendale Avenue between the city boundaries and Hamilton Avenue city council. What's your pleasure? Motion to approve. We have a motion made by Councilman Alafi. Where's the second? From Councilwoman Manica. Questions, concern, or dissent? Would you call the role on item 6A? Councilwoman Manica? Yes. Councilwoman Martin? [snorts] Yes. Councilman Ashafi? Yes. Council President Thomas?

Yes. Motion carries. Under 6B, resolution authorizing the submission for federal aid funding from Wayne County Federal Aid Committee for fiscal year 2029. STPU surface transportation program urban for the repair of Oakland Boulevard between the city boundary and Hamilton Avenue. City Council. What's your pleasure? Motion to approve. We have a motion to approve made by Councilman Ashafi, seconded by Councilwoman Mana. Questions, concerns, or dissent? Would you please call the role on item 6B? Councilwoman Manica, yes. Councilwoman Martin, yes. Councilman Ashi, yes. Council President Thomas. Yes. Motion carries. We'll move to citizens participation. I'm going to set a hard two minutes.

No, I thought it was the uh 7 A and 7B. Council President uh cuz you said you wanted to do that before the citizens speak. So that means so that means our speaking no we either be curtailed. So this is for citizens comments related to whatever. Okay. Two minutes if there's anybody online. Mr. Tucker I see your hand is up again. I'mma unmute you. Do you have additional questions under open citizens participation? No, I do not. Thank you

very much. Mr. uh Mark Ashley Price, your hand is up again. Do you have a comment under open citizens participation? I will take that as a no, sir. If you would please come to the podium. We have any citizens participation. [snorts] Good evening. My name is uh Drew Alexander. resident of Highland Park. I had a couple of questions. Uh the last council meeting, they were talking about the the resolution that got sent to the legal department concerning ICE and there not being here. Did that [clears throat] ever pass? Did that get through? It did pass.

It did pass. Yes, it did pass. And also, I want to thank you. [clears throat] Uh I had a water issue I came up and spoke about last week. It got taken care of. Third, the meeting that they were supposed to have with the GLA or the water on the 25th that was that last one or is that this coming month? It was last week. So what happened? Are they saying they gonna give us our you know our beers going down? Are they going No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They voted for the water increase, right? So that was in lie of make doing them AI plants. They saying they're not going to raise the water rate. So they did it. Yeah. beforehand. So you can say, "See, we didn't." Yeah, exactly.

Okay. [laughter] Thank you, sir.

Greetings again, Miss Fry. Uh, President Thomas, I am so disappointed in the way that you spoke to your uh, brothers and sisters on this council. It was a right for them to get an explanation and for us to get an explanation. And [snorts] thank you uh, Carlton for uh, explaining that. a document is not easy to read, especially when you got more than 20 pages and to understand the legal terms of it. And so they have a right to ask, but you are very rude. And I feel uh just sad for you being so rude and embarrassed. And people who are listening online, forgive him, cuz apparently he don't know what he did or said. So I uh thank you all for the questions because when y'all ask questions, it give us information. Thank [snorts] you. Thank you, ma'am. Additional comments. Thank you. Moving into council affairs. We have two items here. Resolution to approve the Highland Park Michigan Week parade. City Council, what is your pleasure on item 7A?

I go ahead. This is your This is your first resolution to approve for the Michigan Week parade. Motion to refer to legal. Everything else has got to go through legal. Second that. Hey, we got a resolution that's got to go through legal for approval. I mean, I second that. Huh? Okay, that's nice. You know what I'm saying? You know, it would be nice if all approved the form at the same rate, too. Okay. So, we open for discussion.

So, listen. No, we haven't made a motion. So, we haven't we talking about So, the motion was to send to legal. Legal has just gave given us a verbal approved form. I think Miss Martin, this was your resolution that you brought on. We can vote to approve this. I want to make a motion um for a resolution to approve the Woodward the Highland Park Woodward, Michigan wheat parade route on Woodward Avenue with questions. Okay. Point of order. Stop. Yes, ma'am. You made a motion. Yeah, I did. Miss Martin second. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Forgive me. We have a motion on the floor to refer to legal. Oh, you told take back I take my best support. You taking back your support? Okay. Yeah. Did legal approve it? It did. He did. Okay. Okay.

So, so her her she is referred to legal. If it was referred to legal, should have a vote on that. Then after the vote, legal could have said, "Hey, this is what my recommend." Miss Manica is correct. Let's do that way too. We didn't call for the role. She withdrew her support. So now we're back. Okay. We're going to do it like Are we doing it like that? We need to do it the right way. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Let me make sure that we understand what we're doing. Mr. Al Shappi made a motion. I supported it to refer it to legal. Right. Miss Martin made a motion to of support. Support. So, we call the role on the reference on the referral to the legal department.

Madame Clerk, would you please call the role on Mr. Alappi's motion to refer? Now, he didn't say table. He didn't say remove. He said refer to legal. I refer to legal. To legal, yes. Councilwoman Martin, yes. Council, [clears throat] yes. Council President Thomas, yes. Now, Mr. Bosi, that referral process, what does that require of you?

Uh, it requires me to review the resolution, understand the resolution, and determine whether it's appropriate as to form or not. Uh, this is given to me about five minutes before the meeting. It's very straightforward. Uh, my understanding is that last year the parade was on or about May 17th. So, there appears to be some sort of 60-day deadline. That would be a timeline. Um, so based on the one page, um, a handful of paragraph resolution, I think it's appropriate as to form. Madam clerk, we have M. Yes. And Cashi just said refer to legal. Refer to legal for what purpose? Two of deterine to determine whether it's appropriate. Mr. has the same

it is correct [snorts] about this is correct the the same process that my paperwork went through to be approved the form if it's approved the form we discuss it so now with that being said he made a motion that was not on the was not in the agenda at this point we can make a motion to approve this resolution should you so decide the floor is open I got questions and concerns we have to get we have to have a motion first. Okay. I want to make a motion for the resolution to approve the Highland Park Michigan week parade route on Wil Avenue with questions. Second.

We have a motion made by Councilwoman Martin to approve the resolution that will allow that will approve moving the Highland Park Michigan Week parade to Wward Avenue. That has been seconded by Councilwoman Manica. That item is on the floor. We have Miss Martin says she had questions and I also see Miss Manica's hand. No, I have questions. I said she made the motion with questions. It was approved. It was supported by Miss Manica. The two of them have the podium first. Miss Martin, you said you had questions. Yeah. Go right ahead. You are the person to talk to, right? Yes. Okay.

Okay. My first question is um so what are what what kind of assistance are you going to need from the city to have it on Wward? Wward is a really busy street.

Well, when I spoke with I'm Sydney Spite, president of Park Foundation, also the uh president of the theoretically the mission week parade. We we put it on Hamilton. We throw the parade. We took it out the hands of the city because the city at the time when we took it by a uh council uh 10 seven years ago they put it on our hands so we can take care of it uh financially generate the funds and make it happen. We need you guys to approve that the city is okay to put it on work because MDOT needs the city approval. We can't do it because we're not the government. Only thing we're going to do is sponsor or find sponsors to put this thing on. you guys don't. We're not asking for no money. We're not asking for anything other than the approval to utilize MDOT, which is Woodward, to put this on on Woodward. That's all they asking for us to do. That's that's one of the uh processes that they need to move forward within 60 days. So, if you guys say yes, then our next move is to say, well, how much is the application fees? They're going to say such and such. So, we're going to say we need to fill out the applications. And then we fill out the applications. May 16th, here come the mystery week parade. Back on what we're like it always been for hundred years.

Right. But you were talking about rerouting the buses, rerouting cars. What kind of assistance is the city? You don't need the police there. Nothing. Well, let me finish. The ones who were here back in the days when we did this, MDOT had no problem with rerouting down Second down Brush and this the streets that's making a square to get it back on Six Mile. That's not a problem. The police doesn't have a problem with that. The rerouting would be something that of of ease. Once we submit them the uh a map on how this is going to be drawn out, they're going to make it happen just like they do for the Thanksgiving parade. Who's who's they?

The individuals. The city don't put that money on for the Thanksgiving parade. Uh uh used to be Art Van, now it's Garden of White. They make it happen. The city approves it. It's the same process. So they can have their Thanksgiving parade and we can have our missionary week parade. It's the same process the city has to okay for things to happen because we're going to be the ones putting it on. Okay. So what kind of assistance you need barricades? What do you

same thing we need for Hamilton? We we have a barricade but we going to we because it's on Woodward now we need to really really sharpen our nails and get some really nice barricades. We we're going to get another company like we did the last one. We're gonna um rent barricades, go on both sides of the street all the way down to six mile. The parade, we might do it backwards this year. We might start from Fordfield and end up at this park so we can stage it here. That way we can have a bigger area to really really do some things. The city, the people coming past or walking past, they can say Park is back alive again. What are they doing? It's a parade. This parade could one day lead us to a Thanksgiving parade. We're just trying to wake this city up and really show what we do in this city for love. We're not gaining nothing from it, Parker P. We just trying to do something for the citizens that they probably want. And then the merchants, you got the merchants up and down on both sides. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE money off of this. You talking about onlookers, walkers, uh media exposure, store across the street, he sell beer lick and wine, whatever. He's going to make his money.

Hold on, Sydney. I don't think you answer the question. Okay. So, are you using state police and the city's police? Well, I have state police on hand as well as city police if I need. Yes. So, that that's the only just like Hamilton. Hold on. That's the only thing you're going to be using from the city is our police. Anything else? Our fire department. We're going to you we use what we used before the fire police and m M uh your your your um M dot your M what you not your M dot but DPW. Thank you. DPW just like H everything same thing we're not focused on Hampton word okay

um from what time to what time we're looking from uh 12 meaning staging at 10 parade kicks off from 12 from Tuxedo uh from Tennyson to Ford Park we might do it backwards this time and bring it from Ford Park to Tennyson or stage it right here at the park that we did the festival on from 10 to from It'll be 12. It'll it'll block off from 12 to 3. But you're staging in 10. We're staging down the street. We normally stage What time is it going to Hold on. What time is it going to end? Sydney, the parade should end at Fortfield or here at uh 3:00.

At 3:00. Okay. Um you said you asked MDOT. Why did you ask MD dot so late? [snorts] Well, it wasn't asking MDOT so late. We've been talking to MDOT months and months ago. Okay. Detroit has just redid their whole government, I guess. Okay. The lady that we've been dealing with, she's no longer works there. The people that we're dealing with now, they didn't know what to do. They had to literally find out what to do to redo what we used to do for over 50 years. So, when he found out, he called me, which was this week. He said, "Mr. Right. I have a resolution for you. If you can get your city to okay it, we'll make it happen.

Okay. So, you need us, city council, to okay it and then they'll say okay after that. They'll say okay once we do all the paperwork, the funding and all that, then they'll say okay. Okay. Now, if it if it's something that's astronomical and sound crazy, of course, we're not going to say yes. We're gonna hit it back on Hamilton. But we have a shot to put this parade where it was birthed at on Ward 100 years ago back on Ward. Okay. What activities are you going to have on this parade? Because it's in May, correct? Right. And then we're in March right now, so we don't have a whole lot of time. So, what kind of activities are you going to have on Woodward that draw people in and we have to shut it down um on Woodward?

That activity and that portion has nothing to do with blocking the street off. That is pretty much what we can come up with, what we can fund, what we can find sponsors for. What do you have? We don't know. Just so far we have what we had before. We have entertainment, which is we're going to have someone do entertain. Maybe Lauren Harp Lauren Harper. Uh we're definitely going to have bounce around and things for the kids to do. Uh just just a host of We want you guys to really get involved. We want a dunk tank. You know, maybe we can drop somebody in some water. I don't know. Whatever we can do to create fun for this city for one day, we we willing to do it. And we're willing to go through the ends of earth to try to find the money to do it for.

And I want to thank you. I don't know if you know how instrumental you was in putting this together. When they asked this seven years ago and a city thought about it, they said they couldn't fund it. Miss Square said, "Let's see what Parker Pride can do." That's what birthed this. So, thank you. I got a question. This resolution doesn't say if MD says no, we're going to do it on Hamilton. Well, that was my next question. Well, if MDOT says if MDOT says no, then Hamilton is back on. We always did it on Hamilton, which But there's construction here to put it in here.

No, no, we didn't put it in now because for one, we just got that. And we really, really are praying you guys give us a vote to say yes. So, if it doesn't say yes, then we'll go back to the drawing, but we still got time to get it on Hamilton. We still got time to get on. You would have to come back before city council. No, to have it on. No, that right there is the mayor's call, just like it was uh Yap's call. The mayor has control of Hamilton. Okay. So my ne my last question is um if you don't get there's construction that's going to be happening on Hamilton. How are you going to maneuver through that? Like

our planning comm committee right now is looking at Hamilton to Manchester and then probably staging it on on on Manchester or maybe uh uh yeah Manchester if all things work to the point we can't or Oakman. We can stage come up tuxedo and go down Oakman. We got other avenues, but we want the citizens to enjoy this more than we do. We don't want it to be a catch22. We want it to go off without a hitch. Everybody enjoy this and we can have a mission with you right back where it was. [cough and clears throat] Okay. I don't have any more. Okay. Go ahead, Miss um Manica. And then Mr. Shaka, do you have questions? Okay. Miss Miss Manica, you have questions? I do have questions. I do. First, I have a statement.

[clears throat] It is not that first when the lawyer read it, he's reading it in regards to timing. It it wasn't about the time or the date. It was about the street, right?

So that's what legal should have been looking at. Couldn't we have it on Woodward? The other part is administration does. So, I I hate when we get referred to that hurry up and bring it to us when there are actually other people that have to take a look at it. Miss Martin asked some of my questions in regards to the police. The mayor, the mayor needs to say because that's what MD dot also wants to know that the mayor's all right with regardless to the fact that she can say okay to Hamilton. She has to steal because she's responsible for the city. Mh. So it still has to be whether we say yes or no, she can still say no.

And I get that. And so it's instead of stuff coming to us and we keep saying this. So maybe if I matter fact she talked to MD city then I think you should also have her here so that everybody here knows that she's on board with it. Right. Right. Whether I know it or not, everybody here needs to know that she's on board with it. That the mayor's on board with it. But Miss Martin asked some very great questions because we do need the police and who's going to pay for I know you said you are but again the police we just we use reserve we don't I mean

no no no no stop please let me finish Mr. Like I I'm totally for it being on I wish it never left Woodward. Okay. But what I'm saying is we assume that everything's just oh you could just run here and we could just do that. It doesn't work that way. I don't care what MD dot tell you. What nobody tell you cuz what has happened to us is something somebody say oh well no we got the state police. We got the Wayne County and then they don't show up. And that has happened to us. We said yes and then looked out there and there was no Wayne State Police. We're talking about going down Woodward. It has two lanes. You So while we're going down one way, they could be going down the other way. Did nobody say you gonna cut off the whole Woodward? They never They don't cut off the whole Woodward anymore. They have.

They don't. The entire block is cut off. So again, you still looking at excessive amount. Do we have enough employed staff to fulfill that or will we have to have Wayne County and the state come in here? First of all, the police has to also ask them to come in and assist. Not saying they won't. I'm just saying that we're always in a rush. So, my next question is, what is our deadline? I just know 60 days. What is MD dot's actual deadline? What was their deadline date? What's their number 60day? Well, was 60 days from Wednesday.

That's that's when they called us. They said you have 60 days to get this information in. Anybody could tell me when is Wednesday. What date was Wednesday? [snorts and clears throat] The 26th of February. Yeah. So, we need to know. There you go, Miss Martin. 60 days from that date. 26th of February. Because we're trying to get it in, am I correct? Before that 60-day period. Not talking to the 60th day. We're trying to get it in in enough time. 60 days don't lapse. Okay, we need 20 to 60 days before the 26, right? That's what we're talking about.

We start at the 26 and count 60 days and that'll be our 60day mark. But we know we want really 50 days, 49 days, 40 days because just go ahead, Miss Square, jump in where you need to. Go ahead, Miss Square. I'll wait on the rest of my remind you that city is all torn up because we're doing water and it is very difficult to go up and down. Everybody knows. I know.

But I don't California try to cut you off the street. And so I have not heard you talk about how you take anything massive to interfere with any detour. Problem is going to be the detour because the city is really under massive reconstruction. So you might want to get with the water department. You know that that conversation with them do it needs to be a real conversation because I'm just gonna be honest six miles of tennis is a long way.

It's a long way. A long way and and you might you know have some you know you got the greenway won't know until it till we try. I'm just saying you got activities going on in the city now. You may be unaware about I get it. So, let me pull this up on the screen to that point. I was looking at this this line [clears throat] as it comes up. So far, I measured it. I'm waiting for it to launch. It is 1.89 miles. When I look at it on the screen, it is mindboggling. We're No, we're coming from um for just north of Florida. So, let's just say it's a mile and a half.

Let's say it's a mile and a half. Now, I am nobody to discourage big dreams. I love big dreams. And as I was sitting here listening to people talk, I thought about the bus riders that get off on Woodward Avenue and go east and west. How can we accommodate those bus riders? You're talking weekend now. I it it's Saturday. I rode the bus for years. The buses are busier because we got kids on the bus now. It's shopping day. Saturday shopping day. I see a lot of people getting on and off the bus coming from Meyer on that bus.

So, [clears throat] these are things that I want you to consider. Miss Martin asked some brilliant questions and I I want to make sure that the framework here is that we are trying to work out the logistical kinks so that we don't have any landmines that pop up on us. And as I was thinking about this, I drive the city often on the weekend. I just I'll drive the city. I'll drive up and down going from here and there. And so those are some things that will have to logistically be addressed. It's a long way. Anybody who has walked from here up to six miles, I marched it for 15 years. Great. Anybody who has walked this is not I mean not trying to

listen listen listen hold on because I last year we was I did the parade when we went from the shopping center over to Oakman and back and I walked back and forth a couple of times cuz I was walking up and down the parade rock and I ran a marathon. But I'm I'm saying I watched little babies that had been waiting all day to march and they was tired. You're talking to a band member. I marched the uh parade in Kentucky. Man, they say youth is wasted on the young, but I'm just saying these are logistical. I want you to think about these things. Individuals who do parades, they looking to walk that far. I mean, I walk two or three vows in the parades playing instrument doing dance.

And I'm not in disagreement with you. I'm saying that our job, the the five of us, our job is to ask all the questions that everybody else is going to ask. We're just trying to get I'm blocked. I'm with you, Miss Mr. Mr. Ashappi has been did you ask your questions Miss Manica? Did you get a chance to deadline? I believe what was the deadline? We said we were at April. It would have been April 26, but we need to approve it somewhere in March where we are right now. Is there a cost? What are all Hold on. Hold on. Sir, hold on. Sir, sir. Sir, in the audience, hold on.

That will come from you guys will come down. What are they going to charge you for? They gonna charge you to block off the street because some streets they have to but whatever charges that they give us theoretically won't be us asking you for it. Okay. They just told us to ask you to see if it's okay to block off what we're not to understand what our planning is going to be, what we will do behind closed doors to try to make this happen to generate funds, find sponsors. That ain't what we here for. I'm just here just to see is it okay to block off what was and if it's not then we gota figure out I come back next year. Well, no the thing is we still have to issue a permit. Yeah.

The permit. So we can agree let's say for example hypothetically we agreed to give you an opportunity to go find out. You [clears throat] still got to come back in here and get the permit. Exactly. And put in the application and everything. Right. Yep. So you do all of that. You figure this all out with MDOT. You still got to get the permit from us. You're going to have to deliver your factf finding to us at a later date. Right. [clears throat] So, but Mr. Swear [cough] that you need to add to this resolution that if it is not going to be awarded that it will be back on that's when you do the application. Yeah. Please from the audience can you please stop? So, one of us will just add it in there. Okay. That's okay. Fine with me.

One of us will add it in there. You don't want to come back, Mr. Shi. Sorry. Your turn, Mr. Shopee. Go for it. I'm looking at the elephant in the room. Now, when the parade was originally on Warwood Avenue, you guys traveled from Tuxedo Tennyson. Yeah. Yeah. Tennyson. up is Tuxedo or Tennessee. Same damn street.

Okay. On the east side of Worth is Tennessee. On the west side of Worth is Tuxedo. Same street. Okay. So, you went from that street all the way down to the high school. From what residents are telling me, that used to be the drop off point. It was. Now you're going from Woodwart. You're what street are you planning on crossing over on to get to four field? We're line up on Oakman. We come down Tennyson and then we come down what? We we do a you been doing it for 100 years. Hold a second on on Oakland. Oakland.

We line up on Oakland. Okay. You gonna line up on Oakland and then all the bands and on boards you're going to come down tennis and then they come down. Okay. Forever. Okay, I I I I see that as a logistic nightmare, but I'm pretty sure y'all will pick it out. Um, what happens to the residents that are living on Tennis? They love it. What? Hey, excuse. No more comments from the gallery if you will be so kind. I'm asking the question. What about the residents that are Hold on a second. Let me finish before you interrupt. I thought you was asking me a question.

Okay. What about the residents that live on Tennyson? Have y'all talked to them? Have y'all gotten signatures from them to let them know? I hope y'all are not going to function as Avalon Village functions that turns everybody that lives on their block into prisoners for the time being that they have their functions and don't tell anybody anything. It would be nice if you reached out to those residents on Tennis and let them know that you're going to be coming down their street for them to make arrangements to move their cars, do what they got to do before you get started. Otherwise, they're going to be trapped in their homes until you die. Okay. And then you're going to come down Tennyson, bend Woodward, go down Worthart to what point down Woodward to four field. Where at are you going to bend off [clears throat] of Wward? been on Tennyson to W. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're not following me. If you're going to for field, for Field is Pickicket Street, right? Okay. So, when you've been off of Tennyson and you come down Woodward, you have to either been at Manchester or Sears to get to Ford Field. So, which one are you been?

Okay. Now, when when when you're ready for me to answer you I I I just asked you that question. Which one are you bending at to get the Ford Field? Where have you been? Okay. I came here to ask and I'm going to answer your question. Ask for permission to put it on W. You're asking what our plans will be to make this happen. Yeah. Massachusetts, Colorado, we ask these uh uh citizens, is it okay to have block the street off for time being? They all say, "Yeah, okay. We pass our thing. We talk to the citizens. We We do our due diligence. Make sure everybody's cool with it." Okay. It'd be nice to see signatures for that. Forward field is blocked off now. We might go backwards. Meaning if we can get it on, we can come backwards and end up at the part where the festival normally at.

Okay. That's a wide open place. Okay. Okay. Then again stage, whatever. So again, I'm I'm asking the same question. If you're going to go backwards, what's the route that you're going to take? You're going to come off of Oakman again. Come to Woodward. Come off a six mile down Woodward. Where are you bending? We're going to come off, if we do it backwards, we're going to come off the side of the high school. Okay. And take it down to Wward. Okay. It stays right here. Okay. Right here. Okay. Then where are you bending off of Wward to get to forward field? You're still not answering that question. I said we do it backwards. Meaning coming from Forfield.

Coming this way. Okay. Coming toward the park. That's right. We norally stay the festival and stop the parade there on Oakland. No. Why you keep saying? Come on. What? Wait. I'm on Fort is actually the high school. Oh, he don't know. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE NOT SAYING TO ME THAT'S NOT MY FAULT. EXCUSE ME. People in the audience, would you please stop violating city council? If you were in Detroit, you would already be gone. You pushing my buttons. Okay. So, Forfield is the high school, NOT THE REC CITY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I'M SITTING HERE LIKE, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" I THOUGHT YOU KNEW, MAN.

Every every other parade that we've had since I've been here. Okay. And I've been here a while. Okay. Since I've been here, it's always ended at the rec center. Okay. So, that's what I was asking. If you're coming down Woodward, where you been? But if you're going to the high school, then you don't have to bend off of Woodward at all. Right. Right. That's the question I Oh, I thought, man, I'm sorry. Don't talk. I thought you knew. Yeah. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. FEEL that's what it was before the I'm trying to understand. That's all I'm trying to do.

I'm just simply trying to understand. So, now that we have that cleared away, okay? As long as you talk to the residents coming down Tuxedo, as long as you got the uh the uh possible route that's coming down Wilbur and you're ending at the uh uh at the uh the high school. So, are you going to bend down Ferris or We probably did been down Colorado or whatever street that's right here near the park. Okay. So they can go straight down and stage when that open field and finish there. Okay. All right. We have some stage up there.

We have music, entertainment, bounce around, whatever we can else we can throw in there. So right now that this is this is a a a factf finding. You have to see if this is something that's physically possible. It's physically possible. We need Okay. Don't be cocky about it, okay? [laughter] Cuz you are possible to do. Okay. I'm saying Hold on a second. Hear me out. I'm saying that you are dealing with the state and they can be funny like that sometimes. True. And that is a state role. So they have the right to be as funny as they want to be. And they really not our kind of friends any goddamn way.

Okay. So you know what I'm saying? Just point out the facts. So uh I think what needs to happen is they need to have a backup plan. If they don't get warmer, they need to put into this resolution that Hamilton is going to be back. I got that. I got that. Okay. So under I yield back. Thank you for your Thank you for your your input, Mr. Uh. Okay. Under the uh the now they're now therefore be it resolved. We're going to add if if not approved by MDOT, the Parker Pride organization may revisit the parade on Hamilton the same as the previous years. Oh, I like that. Hey, council president.

Thank you. One quick thing. You are absolutely correct. The statement that you made that it's up to the mayor that it's untruth, Dr. President is correct. You would have to come back here to get that permit and that approved. You have to come back here. Those are the rules. The ordinance has not changed. Permit permanent applications. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I don't have to come back here through the window, pay my money, and get the application and the permit from uh city or whoever gives it to us that we've been doing for that process has not changed at all. What you're asking us to do approve a route, right?

And so I we heard a lot here. I I appreciate the dialogue from my colleagues. And let me just close out by saying this. I think everybody here wants to see the jewel back in the crown. I think all of us would be amanable to seeing something like this happen. But the four of us have asked some serious questions that we are required to ask. And I thought about the people that catch the bus. I thought about the people that are going to work. I thought about Woodward Avenue every day. And when I was at a Greenway meeting, they reminded me that two million vehicles a day,

from sun up, from moon to moon, two million vehicles, a million this way, a million the other way. And think about that. Every day. Every single day. Hold on. Two million vehicles on any given day. Let's say it's Saturday and we'll call it 600,000. The buses fast smart. Yeah. Woodward North. Dexter, right? Cut across Woodward Avenue. And I'm forgetting one or two. I used to catch some buses from east to west. So, I'm just It's at least four buses. Yeah.

It's at least four buses over three hours. The bus cadence is Huh. It talks there's at least six in the master plan. It's Yeah. So, so you got to think right at right at the shopping center. The bus cadence is for efficiency every 15 to 20 minutes, right? And we're talking about 3 plus hours, right?

We I'm cuz I'm going to call for the vote on the resolution in a second. I think we've had enough discussion. I think if this resolution to approve the route on Wward Avenue is granted today that we're going to probably have to call a special meeting to be honest with you. And I don't really have a whole lot of time for special meetings. But this will require a special meeting because you gonna have to come in here with a mountain of data. I'm troubled by the fact that I know the Sheffield administration has shuffled the entire deck and for you to say that you're talking to so if it had been somebody that you were familiar with working with multiple times in the past I would be a little bit more

comfortable because they would have a playbook. Yeah. They would have they would have a logistical playbook because when Detroit shuts down Woodward Avenue, they said it wouldn't be a problem. That's what they say. I'm from Detroit. Tell me what you say. [laughter] Yeah. I I'm from Detroit. And when they say it won't be a problem, it's a problem. It's a problem. Right. What's the old saying on the east side? I don't want no problems. But if it's going to be a problem, no problem. I'm just saying.

That's today's business. This is something. And we've been doing Listen, I'm I'm living Hold on, Sydney. Please don't talk on me, brother, cuz I'm on your side. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is you said I'm going to use an analogy. You said I'm going to make a corn beef sandwich and you show up with a live cow. Okay. It's a long way from sliced meat. Mhm. And so if the four of us approve this route, I will be willing to call a special meeting because you're going to have to bring back to us a mountain of evidence, right? And you're also going to have to bring some people with you.

You're gonna have to bring some people that says, "Yes, I will take responsibility on this end." You gonna probably have to come in here with a sheriff, right? You gonna probably have to come through here with somebody from MSP. I'm just saying we we a Monday through Friday type. We got four guys, two on a two extras on a good day. DPW, we got number of police officers, right? We got number of firefighters. They fully staffed, but our fully staffed is still special teams. It ain't the whole football team. It's special teams. [clears throat] Okay. Sunday. Saturday. on a Saturday. Consider a Sunday less traffic and less

if it gets it on what would I consider 12 at night. You know, if it gets it back where it needs to be [clears throat] if that works then that works on that. But Saturday we normally pick because let's talk about two different routes. Can we get a clarity as to which one is going to be the actual route [snorts] going backwards or what? The only reason why I say that is because the businesses will have no they don't have to close. So So most of the park lines have two on and going off and on.

So we're just approve. So I I want to drive this message home to you. Should we approve the proposed route in order for you to get the actual permit? It's going to require significant due diligence. What you need? Well, no, no, no. I'm not giving you a list of what I need. You're gonna show up here and you're gonna you're gonna check all the boxes. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Sid.

So, I it is not our job to give you a list of everything that we have given you. You can go back and watch the tape. We have given you hypothetical logistical situations that could become a nightmare. At least a dozen among the four of us. So, we're not going to give you a list. You're going to come back to us with something with you're going to come back to us with a a document of confidence and a display of support that will make this possible because I am still considering the fact that that building on Woodward Avenue might be under demolition at this time. Think about that. It will be going down that route. So, That being said, this is just

the tip of the iceberg. I I I think the whole community is behind you. But our job is to ask the questions that the other 9,996 people in town will want to ask and to make sure that we do a good job of putting those questions out there because 10,000 attabo and one you know what, right? Okay. So, members of city council, we have a motion on the floor to for the to approve the resolution for the Highland Park Michigan Week parade route. [clears throat]

What do we need to see something from? We need to m the clerk has made a very valid suggestion. the word tenative tenative ten a resolution to provide tenative approval for the Highland Park Michigan week parade on Woodward Avenue with those contingencies that have been listed. So we add the word tenative to that [clears throat] would would tenative be enough for MDOT or would they require approval for what you ask? He said with tenative that's tenative for the the council would putting adding tenative would that be acceptable acceptable to M dot or does M dot require approval? They want to know is it okay?

Yeah they want to know. Okay. So you know what considering that you still got to come back and get the permit. Yeah. To me if you add tenative then that makes it sort of a legal. Okay. So you still got to come back and get the permit. And I am almost 100% certain that without answers to these logistical questions, it won't be possible for us to give you a permit for Woodward Avenue for our role, the health, safety, and welfare of our city. It we would not be in able to in good conscience approve it because we would create a liability for the city of immense proportion. and we haven't even talked to the business owners.

So, with that being said, members of city council, we have a motion on the floor to approve the res this resolution to approve the Highland Park Michigan week parade route on Woodward Avenue. The motion was made by Councilwoman Martin. So, do we do we strike out the word for now on? Yeah. To approve that's giving um council president that's giving perpetual. Yeah. Yeah. So that from now on we have to this is a test. It's a test. We have to think about our legal,

right? Because it says return to the Michigan week parade on Woodward Avenue. So that needs to it needs to just change that in, you know, if it's predicated that the M do approve or for 2026, right? For 2020. For 2026. Yeah. We need to strike the for now. Council President change we're making. Please point of information. So, we need to strike you for now on where? Yeah, because it says return the approval to return. Where is it? Um, where we at?

60 days notice following formally approved in order to coordinate logistic public safety and the time of essence approval immediately. Second, whereas Park Alumni Foundation has requested approval to return the Michigan Week parade to Woodward Avenue. And right there, it's going to be for the year 2026. All right. Where where did you say that? Under the second whereas second whereas Okay. For 2026. Yep. The year 2026. Okay. So, this is a trial. Yeah. This is a attempt. We ain't even had a trial yet. We attempting. And then I would definitely like to see something from MDOT. They approve it. I would definitely like to see something from

So because the resolution was read into the record and has been approved to form by the legal department, we will go ahead and take a vote on this resolution. The amendments. Wait, one more. One more. N it therefore be resolved. It says that the for now on it is in there. No, no. The for now on got to go. It's in that now. Therefore, be it resolved that the Highland Park City Council hereby approve the Michigan Week parade for now on. No, that needs to be strike out. Yeah, that needs to go on Ward Avenue. Take out everything from now on to be held on Woodward Avenue. Yeah. Strike all of that. And then you said put 2026. 2026 under the second whereas. Okay. Right after Wward Avenue.

And then that last for now on that you read at the bottom that needs to go. Yeah. Which one again? Say again. From now on from now on for resolve provide if there's approval of the park immediately required documents. So where is the second from now on? Okay. I don't see it. Didn't you just read it? You said there was another one in there. No, no, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. There's a return and now Okay. It's hard to go ahead. Okay. So, I believe we have it. Um, do we have we have it actual wording? Did she get sentence from Miss Martin? Um, Miss Martin, if you would be kind enough to share that with the clerk.

What that the the the wording that change that you got from this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we could get that over to the clerk before we take the vote. Okay. Thank you so so much for that. Mr. Sprite. Yes, ma'am.

So, to add to your person, you do have probably have to talk to the engineers as well because they're doing the city. So, that's on your list. Talk to the engineers. And then you also could look at Administrative rules regulator regulatory driveways banner [snorts] is a document and so these are Can you speak loud enough to think so I can Oh these are the numbers to the tape

R247.281 to R247.284. It's called administrative rules regulatory driveways banners and parades. [snorts] Okay. Yep. I think we're all set. So council, let's go ahead and get this voted on. We still have Mr. Shappi's resolution to work through. Councilwoman Manica, yes. Councilwoman, yes. Oop. I'm going to wait till they come back. I'm vote no right now. President Thomas. Yes. Motion carries. Good luck, Mr. Spike. You got it. We I'm looking forward to The sooner you get this to us, the better. It'll be soon.

Um, I can only speak for myself. My PM schedule is challenged. So, the sooner you let me know about this, the sooner we can work for a special meeting every day with the exception of this second Monday. I got something I'm doing. So, I'll make an exception for you. I appreciate it. But let's let's get it going. All right. We should have put in here that the city council will attend and be involved and ride on the float and correct driver, but I'm not doing the attorney in the front and miss square drive. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Okay. So, let's move on to item 7B. This is the uh zoning ordinance for ICE. And we will we will count this as a first reading. Yes, sir.

Yes. So, let's go ahead and get an approval of the first reading of the zoning amendment. [clears throat] I'm sorry. I can't tell you what to do, but I'm I want to make a motion. I want to make a motion to approve the first reading. Yes. Well, there you go. Okay. [laughter] First reading of the ordinance amending the city of Holland Park zoning ordinance. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. President. Um my preference would be to to move this to a workshop, I think, at the last meeting.

That was the uh inclination was it was going to be held to a workshop. If we could have the workshop before the actual first reading, I think that'd be preferable. I don't believe I don't know if m anybody from McKenna or the plane departments had a chance to look at this document. Um I've reviewed the document as to form. I I don't object, but it wasn't something that was generated from our office. So, um I we have been looking at and monitoring the situation with ICE in several communities around us. We're surveying what they're doing in the city of Detroit and the city of Southfield and the city of Ramulus. Um I don't believe any communities passed an ordinance yet. We've seen several resolutions which are similar to the one that Highland Park passed at the last meeting. So, uh, before moving forward, my preference would be to to table this to a workshop, allow, uh, the law department to weigh in. We'll see what other communities are doing. I think Southfield Ramulus have their next meetings on March 9th. McKenna can weigh in. Uh, and then, um, after discussion at workshop, then if you want to move it to first reading, that's that would be up to council. Mr. President,

see my support. Well, hold on. Okay. Mr. President, I thought we were going to consider this a first reading, then we were going to go to a workshop and then do a second reading. I thought that's what you were talking about earlier.

Yeah, but we're based on the recommendation from Mr. Bosik, what he's what he wants us to do is to make sure that we dot our eyes and cross our tees so that when we all vote yes on this, which I believe is going to be the likely outcome that we have had an opportunity to do due diligence and also make a comparative. Just about every ordinance in the United States of America comes out of a kit and those ordinances are pressure tested by the city's planning department and the legal department to make sure that they they are one sound legally and we haven't really had a chance. There's some things in here that I read that [clears throat] I mean I agree with you on the the the part that you were talking about about the administration. I I 100% agree with you on that.

Um I am more than willing to go through the process. I don't want this challenged later on. So, the chair will entertain a motion to have it move to a work. Wait a minute. I You know what? I I did have a question. I was talking. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was talking. You did. You were. I'm sorry. Let's not be I was Thank you. I'm sorry, man. Forgive me. Say because we also He was like, "Never mind." Ordinance. So, we also need to have a public hearing as well, too. It's got to have But isn't that what we're going to do in the workshop anyway? No, the public hearing is something different. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, public hearing is something different. If we don't have the public hearing, it it it could be challenged in court.

So, what I'm asking, what I was going to ask is if we go to a workshop, then this was not the first reading, right? We still have to have a first reading. That's what I'm that's what I'm wonder. We can have a first reading again. Anybody any one of us could read it. Okay. M Sharpie, you had a motion you wanted to make. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I resend uh uh my support. So there is no motion. So on item 7B, what do we city council? What would we like to do with item 7B? I make a I make a motion to to move this item to uh um to workshop. Second. Uh uh the next available workshop at the next council meeting

that will be March 16th at 6 p.m. Uh would you call the role on moving this item to a workshop, ma'am? Councilwoman Manica. Yes. Councilwoman Martin, no. Councilman Shaki, yes. Council [snorts] President Thomas, yes. Okay. So, to my colleagues, uh, it is quarter to 9. And it's now council affairs and I would like for us to do the Russell Simmons version of council affairs if y'all would be so kind. I like that. God bless you. Have a good night. Yep.

I say thank you everybody for coming out tonight, being with us. God bless you. Have a good night. Stay safe. Be warm. And you jumped the gun, but that's cool. Mr. Aliy motion to adjourn. Uh all those in favor I have a wonderful night. It is 8:44. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.