Planning - Regular Meeting

Okay. We're gonna go ahead and start the time the meeting at 06:30. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance and the invocation.

Can you join me in the pledge?

Let's pray. Heavenly Father, Lord, we thank you for today. Lord, we ask that you join us for wisdom, for a meaning, and we ask that and we pray over the citizens of Asbury, Lord, in this very chaotic time. We pray also for our first responders who work tirelessly for our citizens, Lord. We thank you for them. Lord, guide us in our meeting and guide us in our thoughts. We need your wisdom as we go through the meeting. In your holy name, we pray. Amen. Roll call.

Chair Roger Abreu.

Here.

Vice Chair Sophie Stino. Here. Commissioner Dalberg?

Here.

Commissioner Earl Hodson? Absent. Commissioner Timothy Ammann?

Here. Agenda revisions and announcements. Do we have anything?

I have no revisions.

Thank you. All right. Public comments. Oh, I guess I'll back up. Any person wishing to address the Planning Commission should complete a white card and hand it to the clerk. Comments are limited to three minutes and should concern only the topics within the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission. Any person who would like to comment upon agenda item should reserve their comments until the public hearing or public comment period is called for that item. Please remember that the Planning Commission is prohibited from considering or taking any action on any issue not previously noticed in the agenda. We now open the public comment period at 06:32. Do we have any white cards?

I have no white cards, chair.

Okay. Awesome. So with that, we'll close the public comment period at 06:32. Consent calendar, consideration of the Planning Commission draft minutes for the following meeting on October 9. Do we have a motion?

I'll motion to approve the minutes of 10/09/2025.

I second.

Is it allowing you to vote?

So it has our screens that says, motion to and mover and then motion.

Okay,

I will take over, Paul. Commissioner Burke?

Yes.

Roger Arbello, Chair?

Yes.

Commissioner Timothy Yahman?

Yes.

And Vice Chair Sophie Sino?

Yes.

Motion passes four zero.

Alright. Public hearing. Conditional use permit CUP25Dash00001. Chair chair recognizes or the commission recognizes senior planner Edgar Gonzalez. Hi, Edgar.

Hi. Good evening, chair and planning commissioners. So today's items are conditional use permit for the construction of a 1,515 square foot dry oil change facility which is take five oil change. And my understanding this is going to be the the first one in the High Desert that's coming in. We have some down the hill as well.

This will be the first one up here. This particular property is within the NC zone which is a neighbor commercial zone within the Main Street Freeway, Quarry Road specific plan. All surrounding properties as well as the site have the same zone designation that's in your screen. The the reason that this project is coming forward to the planning commission is because the neighbor commercial zone requires a conditional use permit for minor vehicle repair facilities. So the based on the definition of minor vehicle repair facilities, it includes oil changes, it includes like window tinting, a tire shop, like minor repairs which could include like alignments, brakes, smoke services.

So, that's all included under minor vehicle repair facilities which is not included is if you're doing repair to an engine or if you're doing bodywork repair that's not included. So this is the area of the project site is located South Of Main Street. To the north we have the Hispere Unified School District offices and we're also on that vacant parcel is is a current project that's under construction. If you jump to Main Street, you've seen it. It's already I think the walls and the building's already up.

So it's it's about 6,000 square foot multi tenant commercial building that will have five suites in them. And to the south side, we have a a single family residential property that's legal non conforming. To the east side, we have the Pep Boys building and to the west side, we have the car wash that's under construction which is quick car wash which is also if you've driven Main Street you already see it. It's the walls already up. This is the current site plan proposed.

The project will have a 40 foot wide shared drive approach with a quick car wash to the west side. It will also be required to do the stream improvements along the project frontage which we include the sidewalk, curb and gutter. The design will be kind of designed in a way which is a circular has a circular drive up driveway which will kind of you'll enter from Main Street, make a right, will loop around and then go through the three roll up doors that they have in there for for them to be for vehicles to be serviced and eventually make a left and come out through Main Street. So, the reason for this it allows a better vehicle access and also allows for stacking for approximately like 17 vehicles in there to be idling before they get their service. You will go on from two drive aisles to a three drive aisles once you make that turn.

The building will be about 50 foot setback from Main Street located there in the center of the side and you have a trash enclosure and an 88 parking stall on the same island. The code currently requires that three spaces are required for each service bay. They currently have three service bays which equals to nine spaces and additionally requires four spaces for every thousand square feet of non service area which they have approximately two fifty. So this equals to 10 parking spaces require. The building has currently nine spaces off on the west side next to the Quick Quack Car Wash and then you have an additional space like I mentioned the ADA parking to provide access to the building adjacent to that building.

There also the site will have a retention basin which will be kind of the center of the site, south of the developed site and then there'll be a portion that will be undeveloped and it will remain vacant at the rear of the site. This is the floor plan. So it will have three trench spaces kind of aligning with the roll up doors to provide those oil change services. To the west side of the building, have a an office equipment which they're gonna be draining all the old used oil and you have a restroom facility there on the corner. They will also have stairs for an attic space just above above that non service area.

These are the elevations. So the elevations comply with the design for architectural guidelines from a main street free work quarter specific plan. It includes a gusto building with trim lines on the top. You have stone veneer at the base of the building that goes all the way around. You have decorative roll up doors.

The center of those roll up doors you have glazing that will be on the north and south elevation. And then on the north elevation where we're facing Main Street, you have that tower element which we have a stone veneer both sides at the corner edges and then you have decorated corners and also decorated trims. So this is overall this project, the design of the project will kind of meet their character of commercial development along Main Street. This project was also required to submit initial study which will review by staff as as and then it was determined that mitigate native decoration was required. The environmental analysis also determined that there's no significant impacts to environment upon the implementation of recommended mitigating measures which were included on the mitigation monitor reporting program table under the MND.

So during the city released the MND for distribution for thirty days for public review started from October 7 from this year through November 5 of this year. During this period, there was no common letters that were received. Also, the facility we operating from 7AM to 8PM and this will will be Monday through Sunday and then they expect to have approximately four to six team members employed in that facility. So with that, staff has recommended the planning commission to adopt PC twenty twenty five dash 20 approving conditional use permit c u p 25 dash zero zero zero one and adopting the mitigate negative declaration. So that concludes my presentation.

I'll be available for any questions as well as the applicant.

Does the commission have any questions of staff?

It's kind of hard to look at the site plan in any amount of detail even online. Is there can you go back to that screen? I just have a couple of questions because of the bold black line is cutting me off. Can you take me through the driveways on main? Is it one or two?

So, it will be one share approach, main approach. It will be shared with a car wash to the west side.

Oh, so there is no other access, correct?

Correct. So, that access will be that shared approach. As soon as they come in, they'll make a a left and they'll come into that circular drive aisle.

I see. Okay.

You don't see it over there?

So there's only going to be pedestrian access from the street?

So you have the vehicle share approaching there and then the pedestrian access will be on the center of the site. So, you see there's Right. Two lines

in do see that. I do see that.

So, you see kind of the dash lines.

Right. So, what's that break between the handicap and the west property line, that white area? You got a big gray area on either side of that handicap.

Yes. So, you have a handicap area and that will be the trash enclosure. So, that that square that you see there at the end, that's the trash enclosure that's kind of facing.

On Main Street? Where is the trash enclosure?

Well, 88 you're talking about the 88 Space, right? Are you referring to?

No. I'm I'm still I'm still not

The 88 Cross.

Oh. Okay. Cross. Apologize.

So if you if you're at the street getting ready to go to the 88 Path to the building, if you walk west, what is that square? Yeah. What is that? What is that?

Is that a concrete v gutter that goes

to The

little blank sliver between the two gray areas along Main Street west of the walk of the handicap access from the street. What is that whited area with a line and a little black box? I'm going to bring my red This

is the catch basin. There's a catch basin

in there,

so it's level. So there's no concrete. I think that's just the concrete that will eventually bring the flow of the water to that catch basin. So there's no like a raised concrete sidewalk or anything like that. It's kind of level. You have the catch basin and the flow that goes into that catch basin to eventually go to the retention base.

So there's only how many feet of landscaping in the front? 25?

The minimum requirements eight feet of landscaping that you have in the front. The overall requirement is 10% which they meet the minimum 10% landscape. So you have you have a minimum landscape percentage on the main street then you have on the West side north of the parking spaces you have landscape in there and also on the on the east side. Yes, overall I believe they're providing about 32% of landscape coverage, which is only they're only required to have 10%.

Big retention basin, isn't that?

It's huge.

I can't imagine these still requiring them so big. The one we put in in our building was enormous too. Quite a big expense. Okay. Thank you. That's all I have.

Anyone else? Alright. So commission opens up the public comment period at 06:44, to invite the applicant or representative for the project to make a public testimony if they're here.

Good evening, Planning Commission. The franchisee, the applicant. My name is Brandon, and we're just excited to be part of Hisperia. We've identified as Hisperia as our first location in San Bernardino County.

Okay.

And we've been working on this project with Edgar and and his team for quite some time. And so it feels great to be standing in front of you today. And if you guys have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Okay.

But we we're very excited to be part

of this community. Alright. Perfect. Yeah. Thank you.

How many locations do you have in Southern California?

So it's a franchise. So right now, there's five corporate locations in Southern California spread out through like Los Angeles and Orange County. We will be the first ones in San Bernardino San Bernardino County. We currently own three locations in Central California right now.

That's very nice. Thank you for coming to the city of Asperia.

Of course. I love it.

Thank you. The commission invites members from the public to comment upon this item. Do we have any white cards?

I have no white cards, chair.

Alright. So with that being said, we're gonna go ahead and close public comment period at 06:46. So we have no further or have no white cards. So commission, do we wanna have a discussion? Do you have any? I have nothing as overall, sorry for the microphone issue. Very powerful, like, that's the note. I I don't think I have any questions. It seems to as staff recommends, follow.

I I just remembered. So there were no comments from any of these environmental groups,

Correct. Wow. Congratulations.

They must be on hiatus. Thank you.

I move to adopt resolution number PC-twenty20Five-twenty approving conditional use permit CUP25-one and adopting mitigated negative declaration.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

Okay. We'll go ahead and do a verbal, please.

No.

Commissioner Burke?

Yes.

Chair Abreu?

Yes.

Vice Chair Sino? Yes. Commissioner Amman?

Yes.

And motion passes four-zero.

Wonderful. All right, Planning Division reports, Ryan Leonard. Hi, Ryan. Good evening.

So in terms of some updates, if you call it the last Planning Commission meeting we had a specific plan amendment for the Silverwood development that is going to the City Council next week. With respect to Silverwood they will be likely coming before the planning commission at some point next year. They are moving forward with preparing the Phase two for that development. And so I expect that they'll be coming before the planning commission at some point next year. With respect to some of the projects we have on the horizon, obviously this past year and even the year before that, we were really focused on our general plan update.

With the general plan update now completed, the next sort of big project that we'll be undertaking is a comprehensive development code update. So we'll be looking at all of our development standards and holding a series of workshops with the Planning Commission, ultimately the City Council, but working to update that development code and municipal code. So, next year, expect another very busy year in terms of all of those workshops, just some things to look forward to. Aside from that though, I don't have any other major project updates.

Okay. Thank you, Ryan. Attorney report?

No report.

All

right. I wanted to welcome our Director. Welcome aboard.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

So Orlando, it's nice to have someone that's local and joining us so quickly. So we would just welcome you. I know you're new to the seat, but do you have any updates?

I just wanted to provide a brief bio just so you know who I am and where I hail from. Again, thank you for the warm welcome, Mr. Scherer. Orlando Acevedo, Director of Development Services. I started last month and I'm sorry, month, it feels like that's what I was going

to say.

It feels like a month. I started last Monday, just a week and a half ago, and it has been very busy, like drinking water from a fire hose, I've been saying. There's just so much activity going on in your community, in our community. And I'm thankful to be here, looking forward to working with you all. I hail from the town of Apple Valley, worked there for over two decades.

And though I'm new to the city, I am not new to Hesperia. I went to high school here. My wife grew up in Hesperia, and my in laws owned and operated a small business off of C Avenue for forty plus years. And so I'm very familiar with the community. And now I join you on the public sector side, and I look forward to working with each of you and all of you and the Council.

You have a great team here already. It's been great to work with Ryan and the entire team on the planning side and certainly building safety, housing, economic development are the other divisions that I will be overseeing, community development as well. So I have an open door policy. If I leave here today and I don't give you my cell phone, I apologize, but happy to share that with you. Please call me if you need anything. We obviously have a very engaged staff, And so I know that you have available resources to you should you ever have any questions. But again, looking forward to working with you all. And we'll be busy. We're busy. As Ryan said, it's going to be a busy 2026.

I'm looking forward to it. So it's a great time to be here. So thank you again for the warm welcome.

Absolutely. Alright. Planning Commission comments. Commissioners.

Just for me, we did the whatever that was called, the three hours of misery.

So

Also known as training. Yeah.

So anyways, so thanks to our past council, I guess, put us in in gear for that. But yeah. So, yeah, just the joys of having to be a part of that. So other than that, I I you know, everything's moving along pretty smooth from what I can tell. So I see we're going to have a lot of our leaks out there for service lines popping up everywhere. So my hat's off to the water crew that's going to have to deal with that because it's probably not only that time of year, but I know the cycle for the pipe that is starting to fill for the service lines is unfortunate, but it's unforeseeable. So good luck with all that. That's it.

Is it out of agenda to go back to questions for Ryan for staff at this point?

You can make any Happy

to answer your questions. Sure.

Question, you brought up the upcoming agenda items for Silverwood project for Phase two.

Just

to clarify on that, know that there's a traffic impact study that's supposed to be done between phases when they're doing that? With such little development that's been done so far in Phase one as far as completion on it and that traffic impact study being looked at accurately before moving into Phase two, is that something you guys are taking into consideration?

There are certain milestones of improvements that have to be completed with respect to traffic and the number of units. I don't remember the exact unit count and what improvements are required at which point. However, as a part of the Phase two, they will be updating those studies like the traffic study. So that will all be updated for the Phase two development.

Okay. Thank you. And then, yeah, just further, wet weather's coming. Thank you. Everybody stay safe. I appreciate all the staff here being diligent, getting me emails that I don't get back to as soon as you get them to me. So thank you very much for all the hard work you're doing here.

Great. Welcome again, Orlando. So nice to see you have a rich history and you grew up here. I believe our city manager also, graduated from a local high school. So so nice to see when the generations stay local.

And and we wish you all the best, and we're here to help any anytime you know how to get ahold of me. The commissioner, Timothy, brought up a good point about Silverwood. We live very close to the site, so we were cycling around the other day. And I thought it was a condition that they were not allowed to have any double story homes on the property line and we noticed that there were some on the South End Of Farmdale or what would be the extension of Farmdale which won't be but ever any but on there. So my concern is as they march up north with that construction, they're going to get awfully close to our home.

And I just want to make sure were those conditions laid just for a certain segment of the property line because

We can certainly look into that if you want to talk about it more we But they look beautiful.

I mean the neighborhoods are coming all around. It's just so gorgeous. People that are not from around here that we bring up and show them the site. They're so impressed. So, just a little note on that.

Yes. So that one is actually more than a condition on the approved land use plan. There is like designated black dots that require a minimum 18,000 square foot lot size around the And single stories along the popping line we thought. So. Yes. So, can look into that. There are some of those planning areas around the boundary that don't have the black dot that aren't subject to that requirement. Right. But by and large, most of those planning areas are. If you let me know where it's at, we can certainly take a look at it.

Yes. Well, I'll take that offline.

Yes.

For sure. And then, with respect to getting excited about reviewing the development code, so I was going to remind again tonight that I'm very, I'm passionate about the landscape ordinance that we have. So I'll be looking forward and hopefully that's one of the first ones we look at. And I have lots of resources to help with that. And then on behalf of Commissioner Burke who's not here, not that he asked me to, but several of us have asked several times for a review on what's going on with the Aqueduct Crossing.

Oh, Hudson.

Oh, Hudson. Right. Sorry. I did. See, you screwed me up, Roger. There you go. It's alright.

I'll take it.

Sorry. Sorry. Earl Hodson. Yeah. He always asked. He was the last one to ask. I think I was one of the first ones to ask, but we, we need an, if anybody knows anything about the scheduling for that, that would be helpful.

For the branch

For the branchero Aqueduct crossing. And then I just wanna remind staff that I see this this post on particularly next door neighbor about a water park coming to Hisperia, and I think I call I even called you once on that. And so that's still going around. I don't know what's going on, but, you know, social media. But, thank you again for all your support and all the good work. We're coming to the year end, so it was a busy year and you guys did a fantastic job. And we appreciate you and good luck around Thanksgiving and watch out for the lots of rain. I hope our roads survive.

I had a question and maybe I'm going to answer myself, so I apologize. But there is

an

intersection at I Avenue and E. So it would be I, north of E, it is in the lanes that are going southbound. The the at that stoplight, the the lane is the asphalt is very basically from trucks and has worked extensively, but there's no breaks in it.

Yeah. Pick a day.

Right.

That's that's been a problem from years ever since they put the stop sign in because once they stop, the trucks shove that.

Right. And you can tell that you could see the the trucks have mushed it, and there's no cracking at all. No. But it it it shakes a car to death. And I don't know how how I mean, do do we mention it or do we use the app to, you know, maybe plug our app for a city of Asperia? I mean, what what what's the

I do. I call from the court. Okay.

I I think to answer your question, we'll certainly share that with Cassandra and team. But importantly, if the public is hearing, is there an app, Brian?

There is an app. I know you can report graffiti and some other items on there. I'm not sure the extent of It's potholes. And potholes.

Yes. I'm

like, I don't want to report it as a pothole. I'm like, I don't even what you call it. You call it what again?

It's shoving.

Shoving.

Shoving. It's where the big rigs and stuff come in. As they break, especially during the heat, it just shoves the asphalt layer and it just rolls up. And then cars come up to it and bounce over it. Yeah, so it's a standard. That's why a lot of the cities have gone to concrete egress, not the ingress, into that lane. They'll put concrete for about 150 feet or so, so the breaking is there. We need that same thing at I Am Bear Valley Road. When you make the radius turn, it's horrendous, always has been. So that's just shoving.

And especially on Bear Valley Road when they did the rubberized. They didn't realize how much impact the big rigs have on rubberized asphalt. And it's fine if it's wide open and you're traveling like down the highway. But as soon as you put a stop sign or a stoplight and there's braking going on, it's going to shove. Guaranteed.

All right.

Well, thank you.

I just wanted to bring that up.

And could you clarify the intersection one more time? I'm sorry. You said it was on Main and is this Main And I? No,

it's I.

I And E. I And E. So this is where E turns into Jacaranda?

Both, yes. It's actually Jackaranda turns into Jackaranda at Peach,

I believe.

But it's I And

E.

There's a Mexican restaurant near that corner. It's right next door to it and it's going on the southbound side. But you're right and you bring up I again, how's that whole similar shoving going on.

I am Bear Valley Road.

And you warned us a couple years ago when they were doing the work that would happen.

Yep. Guaranteed.

Trucks are heavy. They really are.

It's nature of the beast.

Yeah. Oh, I'm I'm sorry, chair. I have one more comment.

Of course.

I did go out, couple times to feeling recently, and they have the streets, improved on the, along Amazon. They were almost complete. They were definitely done with them at three ninety five, which wow, thank gosh. That was that relieved a lot of traffic. So it's looking good. Yeah. It's amazing how you can see the if you're coming up the cone pass or on the 15, how you can see the building from that far away because of the the blue, you know, design on the

Or or how far away when you're in Phelan. Oh. You can see the building. It's it's immense.

Yeah. It's it's immense. Yeah. It really is.

But it's a good addition to this area.

Yeah. Yeah.

Beyond that, I just want to thank everyone for or the staff for putting our binders together. I know we say that a lot, but we do appreciate it. And then just I echo what commissioner Sino said about being safe and for your thanksgiving. I I pray that you guys are with your families and you're able to enjoy it and keep our emergency responders in our prayers because then we know that time of year. There is a lot that they have to deal with. So with that being said, I'm gonna go ahead and adjourn our meeting. So it has our next regular meeting is 12/11/2025 at 630 Beast Chambers. Meet meeting is adjourned at six 07:02.