Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Um trying to think. Oh yeah, we did. Sorry. Yeah. Face boundary. Been like working like way too much. Can't think

doing this like tile job on the side. 4.2 first. If you help me, you can ask. So, I really want to build motion right after the pledge.

Okay. Okay. So, we'll go ahead and get started. Um Amanda's going to lead us in the pledge of allegiance. She has one, too. ledgiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We're going to um reorder the agenda. Um a motion for that. I'll make a motion to move item 4.2 two ahead of 4.1. Is there a second?

I'll second. Thank you. So, a motion by Heather, a second by Forest. All in favor? Okay. So, um review and consider a recommendation to the city city council to amend the Heramman city official. Sorry, sir. We got uh meeting minutes. Oh, thank you. Yeah, conflict of interest. Sorry, I messed I messed it up. Jump in the gun. Okay. Um, we have a full quorum. And are there any conflicts of interest? No. Okay. Approval of minutes for February 4th.

So, I do have an edit that uh I'd like to make on the on the minutes. It's in the uh on page six on the motion uh from Commissioner Jacobson towards the bottom. There's just a little typo. It says maximum floor area of floor area of one. There's missing a zero. should say 1,00. It's one comma 0 square feet. So I think it's just missing. So it should be 1,00 square feet. Um so that was the only edit I saw there. So with that, I'll go ahead and make a motion app to approve the minutes with that one change. Second. Okay. Motion by Andy, a second by Heather. All in favor? I. Okay.

All right. Um, I will read the public comment and then we'll do item 4.1. The purpose of the public comment policy is to allow citizens to address items on the agenda. Citizens requesting to address the commission will be asked to complete a written comment form and present it to the deputy city recorder. In general, the chair will allow an individual three minutes and a spokesperson five minutes. This policy applies to all public hearings. Okay. Um, review and consider a recommendation to the city council to amend the Heramman city official zoning map from OP office professional to C1 commercial. Thank you. I don't have a Do you have a clicker?

You can I only have a few slides you can just forward for me. It's not up there. I don't.

Okay. So, this is the vicinity of this this uh proposed reszone. It's just one parcel within this area. And you can click to the next slide, get a closer look at this. It's a a a parcel that is about 0.97 acres, so a little under one acre. Does have an existing structure on it. As you could see, there has been various outdoor storage activities on this property. Um, it has been used uh and originally developed as a home. Um, there has been some efforts over the years to convert it into uh commercial use and then uh within the last several years, I know that there was an effort to to revert it back to a home. Uh but it really has been an underutilized property for a number of years. We've had some inquiries uh from time to time um uh as to how to reuse the property in looking at the OP zone which it currently is office professional um there's very limited land uses and specifically the request is to change that land use to C1 which for example um in OP general retail is not an allowed use but it is a permission use in C1 um service like a any type of service repair is not allowed in the OP zone but it is a conditional use in the C1. So it does bring a number of additional services and and uses uh that the OP zone does not. And yet, if you can go to the next slide, um, our current general plan identifies this as neighborhood commercial and the C1 zone is one of the zoning types that's

consistent with that general plan as stated in your staff report. OP is as well, but so is the C1. In the next slide, um, you can see that we do have C2 zoning across the street. You're very familiar, I'm sure, with the holiday oil. Um and uh but on the south side that that uh R2043 is actually we know yeah that's where I think we've got a credit union

right yeah on that. So, um, but those, so that's the change. And in researching, um, whether or not there is some concern as a spot zone where it's consistent with the general plan, legally, it would not be interpreted as a spot zone. And even then, there are opportunities to still justify a spot zone if something were um, you know, were classified that way. But again, this is consistent with the with the general plan. So the next slide is essentially our recommendation. Uh the proposal complies with the future land use map uh in the general plan and it does facilitate commercial development which of course is an interest to the city. Uh it it provides jobs. It provides increases our tax base. Um, the staff supports the amendment as proposed or requested by the applicant. And as the commission knows, your role is to forward a recommendation of either approve or deny this proposal to the city council for a final decision following a public hearing. Any questions for staff at this point in time? We do have representatives from the applicant uh who is here tonight to answer any of your questions. If you would like, if you would prefer, you could hear them before and after the public hearing, that's up to you. So,

thank you. Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, if the applicant has anything they want to add, if they want to come forward.

Hi, I'm Hans Hoffman with Hoffman Architects representing John Nord who is the applicant. Um John Nord's a physician and he works uh in remote areas uh of the country um doing physician work. So right now he's in Montana for three weeks um doing that type of work. Uh so we're here to represent him and John is co-owners in Downrange Bike Works with Milo. And so Milo is a part owner in that. And really the the main purpose of this is to create a bike shop. Um, and we've looked at uh some various configurations on the site. Um, and where we're currently thinking is that use utilizing the existing home as a bike shop and expanding that in some form or fashion. You know, doing something architecturally to the front of that so it doesn't look like a single family residence anymore. And then um in the future consider, you know, um possible future uses such as retail or restaurant, whatever that site can accommodate. And so, um, but that's down the line in the site plan application. And so, right now, the the main intent of this is really to create a bike shop. And, uh, as we go forward to the next step, should this be approved, um, we would love to hear a comment or feedback of, you know, what, uh, the community would like to see at that location in addition to a bike shop. And I'll let Mike speak a little bit.

Can I ask a quick question? Um, when you say bike shop, is it a motorcycle shop or a bicycle shop?

That's what Mike can answer for you. Uh, good evening everybody. My name is Milo Buros. I am a veteran. I'm a Purple Heart recipient. Uh, fought in Iraq in 2004. Downrange Bike Works is a veteranowned business and will always be a veteranowned business. My partner, Dr. John Nord, is also a veteran. I'm an Army veteran and he's an Air Force veteran. Uh we believe in community and we believe in bikes and we know that the city's been doing a lot to for bike stuff a lot a lot of trail work and I think it's really amazing. So um what Downage Bike Works is it's a bicycle sales and service shop bicycle sales and service and we are very much community oriented. This year we're a platinum sponsor for the Utah High School Cycling League as well as sponsoring the Mountain Ridge High School cycling team and the Heramman cycling team. Over the last two years, we've donated a lot of time and and quite frankly some money to uh to Heramman High School because we believe that bikes are important and we think that the youth benefit from them and especially in an organized way like in the cycling league. Uh, as you know, the National Intercolastic Cycling Association, also known as Nika, has a sanctioned trail in Butterfield, which this property is very close to. And so, we think tying in everything that the city and the county has done with these trails and having this bike shop in this space goes hand in hand. Um, and again, I just want to re reiterate that we are very community oriented and we want to give back to the community and this space is a great area for us to do so. And I'd love to answer any questions if you have any.

Okay, we might have you come back up after the public hearing. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks.

Okay, so we will go ahead and open the public hearing at this time. If you'd state your name when you come up. Sorry, my my hearing is horrible, so I'm having a hard time hearing in here. Uh, my name is Kelly Jones. We are the property owner, homeowner directly uh to the south of this this property. Um, and over the years, we've been there for almost 17 years. We've seen a lot of things come and go out of there. And uh we're not opposed to the resoning, but what we would like to see with this property is an extension of the nice brick retaining, not retaining wall, dividing wall from the two properties to the west of this continue on for any other business that wants to come in there. So, we have a nice dividing uh wall between our property and whatever businesses are on the back side of this here. Uh right now, you know, we've had things put up like containers and shipping containers to kind of contain that, but really whatever future zoning or whatever goes in there, I feel that that that uh that that business wall that's already there needs to continue down to the end of that property to separate those businesses from our residential area. Um, we do have some other things going on in those others that can get quite loud and people running around and uh, it's nice to have that barrier wall. We would like that continued and that that's basically what my comment and my request is here this evening.

Okay. Thank you.

Hi, I'm Katie Jones. I'm the other half. Um just to expound on what um my husband has just explained over the years we have we have seen many of the tenants try to develop this into a um a use of some sort. It's it's um it's been interesting to watch at times. Um we we've had fires back there. We've had copious amounts of garbage. Um vehicles stored, trailers stored. It's just become kind of an eyesore. Um, right now the containers that are back there block some of what we see, but there's some um, leantos and whatever that have the fabric is ripping off. It's it's coming down there. It's become a place where animals just, you know, have burrowed into the storage units and everything else. And it the the fence that is there, we had talked to um one of the previous owners about correcting the fencing issue in the back and it it actually um strays onto our property line by about a foot and a half um towards the west. So, I've got pictures of it. I' I've talked to um zoning. I've talked to, you know, a few times to several different people. But, um I we would love to see it developed. It's a great piece of land. There's a ton of traffic that goes by it. It's wasted space at the moment. I great bikes. Awesome. You know, so thank you.

Thank you.

Hello. My name is Trevor Lindren. I'm the dentist that owns the uh the property to the the west of what's being developed. Um I support the idea. My son was on the mountain bike team, so I think it's a great idea to have a bike shop. Haramman needs a bike shop. Um, so I fully support the idea. I don't have any problems with it. Um, just as we consider the property development, sometimes there's a lot of traffic from Tiffany Dance Company. So, we just have to make sure there's adequate parking. Um, and there's a white fence there that has a little bit of obstruction when people are trying to turn left out of our parking lot. That little white fence is sometimes just in the way to make it a little more dangerous to try to turn left on the as 134th South gets more busy. That's something to be aware of. um just to keep good visibility and um adequate parking. But I fully support the idea. I think it's a great idea to have a bike shop and Haramman really needs one. So I don't have any other comments. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, seeing no more comments, um motion to close. I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. Second, Heather and a second by Forest. Um all in favor? Okay. Um, all right. Discussion. I guess just with the zoning change. Um, typically we between residential and commercial we have them put up a pre-cast wall.

So yes, there is still that incompatibility of land uses that would be applied at the site plan review. So this is a change of use. Yeah. which does require a site plan uh review and we would then require that that that wall. Yeah. I just wanted to point that out just so you're aware of that. Yeah. So that's even if it's right an existing structure but the zoning change if the use changes they will still be required even if they're using existing

the change of use is the trigger. And then another thing to be aware of is it says in the I was just reviewing the code. It says that if you have commercial use adjacent to residential use then even that so in this case we're gonna have a C1 zone with an OP zone right but the use itself if it's residential then it still requires that that barrier that wall another question about improvement on that. So the the comment about blocking of view and stuff right now the sidewalk ends on their property. It does not continue. Is there a requirement for

yeah as a part of that because that would then also take care of the situation with the side distance and the fence blocking the view as well. So that would all right be in compatible use and so that would help take care of the change of use then we can bring everything up to current code. Perfect. Not not to jump ahead, but with that transportation plan, there's some expansion planned for that road as well. It looks like the dental office already kind of has that space for that road expansion, but then this property would not. I guess it's more of a thought exercise as to whether or not there's a plan for that. That's a part of the plat and everything too. The requirements for for setbacks, I figured and the rightway. Yeah. Right away.

Yep. Yeah. Yeah. As part of the land use application, there would be a likely a requirement to dedicate some right of way to uh accommodate the future widening. That is that is correct. Yes. And that's where that white fence currently is then. Yeah. Like you like you mentioned, if you look to the property to the west, it it will line up with what that is. that is actually built out to what the the widening project is planned to be because that's been on the M transportation master plan for a while. Not just with this current update. It's been that way for a few years.

Exactly. You can see the holiday across the street also built out to the full width. So, um yeah. Yeah, that would be the intent is to continue that going east. Okay. It's nice having all the players here tonight answer our questions. So, Michael, on the change in zoning, is outdoor storage allowed on either of those uses or either of those zones? No, Michael. Yeah, I'm looking at the land use code. I apologize. You don't have it memorized?

No. I don't see that outdoor storage.

Oh, probably not. It's only 11 C2. C2 in manufacturing. Yeah. I mean certainly not as a primary use, right? And if there were anything outside, you would need to be screened and Right. Yeah. But as a as a as a land use or as a as a primary land use, no, we don't allow that. Okay. Thank you. Do we have anything else for um the applicant? Do we have any questions? I'm ready to make a motion. Yeah, good. Thank you. I think this is great.

I'll make a motion to recommend approval to city council for item 4.2. I'll second. Okay. So, it's forwarding a positive motion with do they have what it says at the bottom there on your on your screen. Yeah. With staff's recommendations with staff recommendations. Yes, I'll second. Okay. So motion by Forest, second by Brody. Um Andy, yes. Daryl, yes. Preston, yes. Heather, yes. Forest, yes. And Brody, yes.

Okay. And then we will go to review and consider a recommendation to the city council to adopt the 2026 transportation master plan update. Okay. Good evening, commission. Um, we have discussed the Herman transportation master plan a couple times in work meetings, but this is first time we've had it in the general meeting. So, I there may be some some things that you've heard before that are good for public consumption as well. Um so there may be some repeat but yeah as some background for the necessity of a transportation master plan right we've we have an existing transportation master plan that was adopted in 2023 which really isn't that that long ago 3 years ago but in Haramman time a lot has changed since then uh as we have discussed some of that is because of a need to look at these public infrastructure districts and how they impact our transportation master plan. So, um yeah, and then as we know, Herman's growing. It's not going to stop grow growing. Um so, one of the biggest and longest steps in the transportation master plan is actually analyzing and collecting all the data for socioeconomics. So, population, employment, those are kind of the main drivers or um generators of traffic is where people live, where they work, right? Um and then also we have seen through state projections, county projections that the household size in Utah is slowly declining and as we go into the future they are projecting even smaller household sizes than what we are at today. So, so we have adjusted that. We

went through all of our master development agreements that are, you know, entitled to a certain amount of units. So, we know and split the city into a bunch of little zones and how much employment's in that zone, how much population is in that zone. And so we as part of this project actually helped build a kind of a live model of population and employment that we're using you know for all of our future master plans as well. So water parks other um even in the general plan we can we can look at this you know population projections in the future. But this is the building blocks for the the transportation master plan. Once we know or at least uh have our best guess at the projected growth, we look at three scenarios in Haramman. So that's today and at the time we were doing the modeling that was 2025 and you can kind of see the population there represented about 68,000 on the model. Then we look 10 years from then 2035 and then we look 15 years from then. So 2050 is our kind of design horizon on this this project. And then once we have all that data, we plug it into a traffic model that's that you know based on where the commercial is, where the residential is, where where's the most need for uh for traffic and and transportation and trips that are built. So then we model each year 2025 existing we would call that 2035 and 2050 and then see oh our roads are overwhelmed on 134th today or in in 2035 we're going to need to widen there or build new projects there. So then we build a project list to make sure our roads aren't going over capacity. Um and and there is some consideration to transit and active transportation. Um but as as

being the community we are, we are very commuterdriven in Haramman. We don't have a ton of job centers at this point. So we do have a lot of vehicle trips coming in and out of the city every day. Um, and then we put a project list all together and that's kind of what we work off uh to know which projects to build, which ones are the highest priority and we phase them based on their their priority. I will mention for the public, I think you all have seen this, there is an online story map that, you know, paints the picture of what's going on here. This graphic is actually from that. Um but that online story map is a little bit easier to digest than our hundpage uh document on the transportation master plan. But that is what we are adopting to or recommending for adoption tonight. Um so yeah, I'm just kind of jumping right into based on all of our analysis and uh what we see as as future projects that are coming up. You'll see there are colorcoded for both. There's two types of projects we'll talk about. This one is intersection projects. Um, so that could be a variety of of different projects. That could be installing a traffic signal. It could be an existing traffic signal that needs additional turn lanes or even pedestrian or, you know, bike lane improvements at a signal or an intersection. It could just be as simple as the recommendation is we can recommendation is we can adjust the adjust the signal timing, maybe signal timing, maybe coordinate signals coordinate signals that are close that are close together to better uh together to better uh have a more have a more efficient corridor. Um we'll efficient corridor. Um we'll talk about talk about uh there there's some partial uh there there's some partial signals or signals or 3/4 intersections that limits 3/4 intersections that limits most most movement, but it still allows movement, but it still allows certain certain movements. So that's movements. So that's specifically on specifically on 134th. Um, one of at the 134th. It could just be as simple as the at the new development, the Commons. There's going to be a kind of a partial signal there. Um, and then we have

roundabouts, as you know, there's been a couple already built in Olympia. There will be more built in Olympia. We're able to work with the development there. There's usually a question, why aren't we, you know, always building roundabouts? Why is our default traffic signals? Roundabouts are great for reducing conflict and risk of, you know, uh, crashes. They do take up a ton of space and a lot of rideway. So for for a city that's, you know, looking to use our our funds as wise as we can, it costs a lot more unless you have a a development or another partner that's willing to give up a lot more land or room for roundabouts. They also don't work in every case, but for for a lot of cases, they do work well. So we are trying to implement those more. Like we said, the the major growth area, Olympia, is kind of where you're seeing those implemented. A lot of the the retrofit where we're like a four-way stop or a two-way stop, it's really impossible to fit a roundabout without, you know, taking a home or something that's around there or a business. So, where we have a lot of space and that we are able to get room, we do like to implement roundabouts. But for uh for costwise, traffic signals do kind of help uh coordinate an intersection very well for a for a pretty cheap cost compared to some of the other improvements. So um yeah, and then we have some rebuild of intersections. One example is at the very end of well not the very end but out on Herman Main Street if you go out west there's the high country area. They have kind of two entrances that Y into Main Street. Neither of them are great entrance ent entrances. So, we're uh talking about consolidating those into one that has better visibility as we widen Main Street going west. So, that's kind of one of the examples of rebuild an intersection. Um and then, yeah, I think that's covers most of that. Oh, and then

the color code. Sorry, Mitch. Uh you'll see there phase one, you can kind of see um even on on this map there. Yeah. So, back to this, the colors mean what phase they're in. So, phase one, you'll see we have a lot of phase one projects because most of our growth that we can project is happening, you know, in the next 10 years. That's what that phase one is. And so, that's all the red. Phase two is the blue that, you know, the next 9 years after that, so 2035 to 2044. And then phase three, we don't have a lot uh of projects yet because we just don't know what that looks like yet. Um, but we do anticipate, you know, as we get further west in Olympia, there will be some projects there in in phase three. And then, yeah, so similar, these are roadway segments instead of the intersections we're looking at. So, generally a widening or a new road. So, the way that's designated is the dashed line is a new road and the solid line is an existing road that we're looking at the need to widen. So, as discussed on the last item, 1-27, that project is 134th. It's currently three lanes. We're showing the need to go to five lanes at some point. So, in phase one, so in the next 10 years. Um, yeah. And then after we plan all of our projects, we look and and on the online map, you can look at each scenario. 2035 and this 2050. We're showing 2050 here. So those numbers are the road segments and that's in thousands of vehicles per day. So you can see there we have some very busy roads entering and exiting Haramman.

126 South is projected to have significant amounts of traffic. Um that just to kind of give you an idea, University Parkway at I-15 is seeing that that's a little bit more than the traffic you're seeing at University Parkway in Orum um on 126 in between Bangader and Mountain View, right? Th those are kind of big connections. Um we are working with UD do as you can see a lot of that jurisdiction where it turns red that means we're over capacity and there is something that needs to be done we don't show it so let me take a step back we do show a project of going to seven lanes on 126 similar like 134th is currently you know seven lanes they're striped gutter to gutter to to make that fit but even doing that we're seeing you know, there's going to need to be some additional work there that will will take working with UD do. Um, there is, you know, uh, a plan for UD do, uh, take over 126 all the way from where this new U11 is on the west end. It's kind of the corner of Olympia and Heramman really um, all the way out to to Bangader. So, we they're currently doing a study. Hopefully, we come up with with some solutions. they they're looking at, you know, widening even beyond seven lanes, which would be, you know, very difficult. Um or even like a freeway to freeway connection from Bangador to to Mountain View, which would be it would be kind of similar to uh Temp Mount Tempenogus Highway. Tempenogus Highway, they have the commuter lanes that are separate from the main traffic. So from Mountain View to Bangader, you know, potentially you could have a commuter lane that doesn't have any, you know, intersections or anything and you're just tying straight from one to the

other. That is expensive. You know, you got to either elevate or or do something to to separate the traffic. But, uh, so that that's one area that, you know, our master plan doesn't quite solve the problem in 2050, and we're still working with UD do on that because it kind of reaches outside of Herman's boundaries. Um, and then again, as we know, 134th is very busy. Orange shows we're kind of right at the edge. We're not failing yet. Orange is kind of our our uh border of it's going to be busy. There's going to be delays, but it's not going to, you know, completely fail. So, there might be something we look at at 134th in Mountain View as well. You can see it going orange there. So, and then as we've mentioned in the past, it was well, one thing that's surprising is the Royale Vista connection down at the south end. You kind of see it orange there. Um, when we show that connection, now this is a model projected. Nothing's, you know, going to be exact on this in in we're talking in 2050, but we see a big demand for the south area of Heramman trying to get over to Bangader or Redwood Road. And so that connection actually shows as a pretty crucial connection that would benefit our our system quite a bit.

And this also shows connections into Bluffell as well. Yes. Any help? Yeah. And that's the connection I'm I'm refer Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. A few connections in

Yes. So yeah, you can see there a little bit north of there um there. Yeah, we're also showing an additional connection which helps offload a little bit but but still that Rayal Vista area where and that's for kind of reference where the Salt Lake Community College is uh campus is and Le all all of that kind of area. That's the road that goes adjacent to those is Ray Vista. So I can answer any questions on on any of the maps so far. Could you go back to the uh the previous slide? So, according to this um Mountain View corridor, it's a roadway widening project. It's not getting any wider.

Yeah, I mean filling to the to the You're right. The the way we show that might be, you know, confusing. You could consider but it's probably better considered a new road as so for th those that don't know the project that mount that UD do's working on are they are the existing roads that are there today are going to be frontage roads and the center area that is not built right now they're planning on building as an expressway similar to a freeway um and yeah that that is a new section of road so that might be you know something we could update Um, but you're right that

I just I'm just making sure that there that you're not expecting it to get even wider than it is now because Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point that I think their intent there was to say, "Hey, there's an existing road and we're going to add new capacity to that existing road. So therefore, we're calling it widening." They're widening. It makes sense. That that was my question. They're widening by create. By the way, as I was looking at this, it shows budgets and dollars for all the different projects as well, including the one for Mountain View, which is it's now at a billion dollars, not the 500 million that's there. It's twice that, but anyhow, FYI, I mean, it's not it's not city's funds, but but it's uh but it's doubled in price from what's now showing up in the plan.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Mountain View. We're showing it as a project on our project list because it definitely impacts, you know, our tra our transportation system. But at the end of the day, that will be a U DOT project. U DOT is running that. And as an update, they're, you know, about at, you know, 80% design. They're hoping to start building in 2027. So,

are these new roads, the the the dashed lines, excuse me, um de developer dependent or does the city have active corridor preservation going on or? Yeah, a lot of the new ones are in our new growth area where we have a master development agreement with that developer where they are required uh by our master development agreement to uh give us the or dedicate the ride ofway so that we can have those roads built. And additional to that, they may be in a public infrastructure district, the PIDs that I referenced earlier, which actually puts the financial responsibility on the development to build those roads. So that that's the case in Olympia and down south, kind of two of our two of our biggest growth areas. Do we do we have a timeline on when that connection to the corridor is going to be done? I know you've been asked that a million times, I'm sure.

Are you talking about the expressway in Mountain View? No, I'm talking about the one down to the south southish end. Oh, that the uh what's that road called? South Vist. Is it Juniper Crest? Juniper Crest. Oh, Juniper Crest. When that connects to Mountain View.

Yeah. No, no, no. Good, great question. So, the extension from where Juniper Crest dead ends to come and connect into Mountain View. And then on the other side of that road, we call it Royale of Mountain View, we call it Royale Vista. Yeah, there it's under construction right now. Um we are hoping that by the end of summer it'll be available and and finished. So it might be early fall and then additionally we're working on there needs to be some widening in the middle of uh in between the two Mountain Views and a traffic signal. So uh there will be a traffic signal installed at that location on Mountain View. We're working with UD do same time frame. Uh so it it'll be nice to be able to access in and out but it does mean there will be another traffic signal on Mountain View that you know you might get caught on the red light there

until the widening happens in the middle. Yeah. Yes. Until Yeah. Then you can bypass the the traffic signals there. So yeah, widening to the center.

And as uh you what we're hearing from you do the expressway is a three-year project. Maybe we're hearing more like four years in the end, but they will. Yeah, they'll that'll be very impactful because they've got to, you know, go under most of our roads with the expressway, similar to to Bangader. Um, so there will be some closures and and some partial closures. We've worked with them on 134th and 126. They cannot close those. Those are, you know, essential to getting in and out of Haramman, but there will be lane closures, partial closures. That is inevitable with the the project. So, we just went through it on Bangador. We're okay. We survived.

We survived. It's job security. I love it. That smell of pavement. I do love the smell of asphalt. Yeah. Yeah. So, again, those are kind of the traffic volume numbers and then the colors indicate how much volume we're projecting versus the capacity of the road. So, if we're going over capacity as we get, you know, like I said, red is we're over capacity. Orange is we're right at capacity. So, you'll see some delays during, you know, rush hour. And then green is you you're not getting too close. You you'll probably be be fine 90% of the time unless there's a crash or something.

Yeah, I think that's important to note. Right. These are typically peak hours,

right? Throughout the remainder of the day, you flow. These are just your your peaks. I will point out most of the roads once you get into Haramman are generally going to stay green from today all the way out. But like we said, it's the complaint we hear. It's getting in and out of Haramman. The east west travel to get to either Bangador or I-15 is is difficult. So we'll continue to work with our partners at Riverton, but also UD do to try and find some some regional fixes for that east west travel. Well, I guess it's also important to note that as you're looking at this 2050 network and level of service, this is assuming like your entire Mountain View corridor is built out and it's a freeway all the way. So, that's going to take some traffic off from these cross streets because you're not going to need to go all the way banger. You can jump on Mountain View, go all the way north or south, but there's still a lot of demands for the other surface streets as well.

Yes. With all that work, exactly. It's kind of a double-sided coin. we we're able to get in and out, you know, north and south, but it also means, you know, those from Saratoga can come up and and, you know, get into Heramman easier, which means we might get a little bit more traffic off of Mountain View from from there. So, yeah, it's a good point. Good time to be retired.

Few more years by 2050 it'll happen by 2035. Then Mitch, I think there's just one more slide. And yeah, that's just our recommendation is to um support and recommend that the commission recommends adoption of the proposed Herman city transportation master plan to city council. Sorry. Have you heard more from like I guess now that we have a bus route which is amazing in Herman more about uh tracks

coming? Yeah, we actually have been working there's been a regional effort to look at transit in Haramman, you know, the southwest area of Salt Lake County. Um, so you're right. We got our first, you know, legit bus line this last year and that kind of goes down Main Street and 126 and then connects in through Riverton um to the Front Runner eventually at 126 and and basically I-15. Um, and then yeah, so that's up and running. So we encourage, you know, UTA is the one that, you know, the the authority that that covers transit and they want to see, you know, ridership before they're going to, you know, build more routes or or build, you know, for example, we've been pushing as as hermen to extend the red line at at dead ends, as you know, at Daybreak Station just across our border. Um, so if it was possible, it would be great to have that extended into Haramman. you know, we could get into downtown Salt Lake a lot easier if for commuters. Um, we have heard that light rail is is, you know, kind of I won't say, you know, a fossil, but it is more and more difficult to fund generally those projects have been funded through the federal government and they're looking and at more the flexibility of a BRT, a bus rapid transit. So like down in Oram Provo, they have the UVX system which is a BRT. Ogden I think also has one for for Weber that is up and running. It's this bus that has uh you know generally a certain amount of it has a dedicated bus lane but it also has uh prioritization at a traffic signal. So it'll talk to the traffic signals and say, "Hey, a bus is coming. Give the green to this direction

so that they don't have to stop." Um, so that has kind of been the the more successful projects from getting federal funding and state funding. Um but but because we have two really good anchor points at the uh at the red line, we have Daybreak, which is a pretty uh dense development, and then the point that the state is developing kind of at the old prison site in Draper. Um it's natural to have some kind of transit connection and it's natural to have it come through Herman to get there. Um so we have been pushing Red Line, but that might end up, you know, being a phase approach. Maybe it's just a bus at first and then a a BRT, a rapid bus and then maybe if with enough stakeholders in state and and federal, maybe that can turn into a you know a tracks extension at some point. But but yeah, we are we are working with our it is a regional push, right? So Edgefront Regional Council is the one that kind of headed that study and that's kind of where we're at at this point is that's the priority and and it was nice to see South Jordan, Riverton, Bluffell all agreed that you know doing something at the end of Red Line and getting it extended whether that be a bus uh a rapid bus or a a light rail would be you know the priority for everyone in the area. Any other questions?

I'm ready to make a motion. We got to have a hearing first before Oh, do we do this hearing? Yeah. Thanks, Bryce. I didn't know. Okay. Um, go ahead and open the public hearing. And seeing no one, we'll go ahead and motion to close. So moved. Go ahead. Second. There you go. Okay. Motion by Annie, second by Heather. All in favor? I I. and then a motion. Um, I'm ready to make a motion to recommend to the city council approval of the Herman transportation master plan as presented.

I'll second. Okay. So, we have a motion by Preston, a second by Heather Brody. Yes. Forest. Yes. Heather, yes. Preston, yes. Daryl, yes. And Andy, yes. Okay. All right. Uh, chair and commission comments. No, I've been involved a little bit with the master plan. I'm excited for it. They've done a good job. Yeah. Yeah. You've done a great job. Nice work. Good job. Okay. Uh, future meeting, city council March 11th and planning commission March 18th. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Motion by Forest, second by Heather. All in favor? Hi. Good job.