City Council - Regular Meeting

Yeah, it's been a week down there. It'll change your life. I'm not going to touch that. I'm not going to touch that. I'm not going to touch that. I'm not going to touch that. So to speak. It's not Hartford. That's all I know. It's not Hartford.

All right, last seven o'clock. We'll call the meeting to order. Start with the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Teresa. Please take the roll.

Okay, Mayor Jones. Here. Kittle.

Here.

Carlson. Here. Bowen? Here. Horacek? Here. Mattson? Here. And Schilling? Here.

Do we have any additions or action on the agenda for tonight's meeting? Motion to approve the agenda.

Second.

Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Carlson? Yes. Mattson? Yes. Bowen? Yes. Keel? Yes. Horacek? Yes. Schilling?

Yes.

How about the minutes from the 6-9, which was just last week, meeting?

Motion to approve meeting minutes from 6-9, 2026.

Second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Schilling?

Yes.

Horacek? Yes. Keel? Yes. Bowen? Yes. Mattson?

Yes.

Carlson? Yes. Okay, the bills are in the packet.

Motion to approve bills submitted for payment.

Second. Any discussion? I have one item I'd like to have you guys take a look at. We've been up and around for about a year now on our wastewater treatment plant. Can we kind of get a look at utilities now versus when we had the lagoons? Just a... Ballpark because I what triggered it was I seen the electric bill was like four thousand and something out of the wastewater client I know we probably weren't spending that much Was it really just pick a couple months and just take a quick look and just give me a If you could before the next meeting or send it to me and doesn't matter I just caught my eye. I didn't remember that number being that high, Craig, but maybe it is.

I think I glanced at it a few times and I thought that's where it was at. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Really, I brought that up because I wanted to, you know, prove that I read through the stuff. How's that sound? Coming off vacation and I read through the stuff. All right. Anything else? Hearing nothing, we'll vote. Carlson? Yes. Mattson? Yes. Moore? Yes. Keel? Yes. Horacek? Yes. Schilling?

Yes.

All right. Public action. Doesn't look like we got anything. I think these guys are on the agenda, so we won't mention them yet. We have a 7.05, we've got a couple minutes to wait, and a 7.10 hearing. Let's drop down to second reading of Ordinance 771. That's the rezone of Track 3 out at Lufco Edition.

I make a motion to approve the second reading of Ordinance 771, rezone of Track 3 at Lufco Edition. Second.

Any discussion? All right, hearing none, we'll vote. Schilling. Yes. Horacek. Yes. Geal. Yes. Bowen. Yes. Madsen. Yes. Carlson.

Yes.

All right, you guys are being too fast tonight. That's what I wanted, I guess, on my own fault, right? Well, we don't want to stoop low and start these guys talking yet because that's... We do want the reports.

Yeah, well... We'll give them just two minutes now.

Yeah, we can give them two minutes.

We've got down two minutes now.

Three. Well, of all the reports we could review, we probably could review the fire department report because they are not here this evening. So I'm going to just take a quick gander at that and see if there's anything that... And Todd will be here next meeting, is that true?

Yep, that'll be the next quarter, so he should be here, or somebody from the fire department.

I know they have their event scheduled in August, correct? I'm sure they'll have all the fire trucks in the parade Saturday.

They had the big raffle for the golf cart on Saturday, the drawing, too.

Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. All right. Any comments, questions, or anything on their report? If not, we can start meandering our way back up to the 705 hearing, because by the time we get there, I'm hoping we're going to be to 705. How's that sound? All right, our 705 hearing is to approve first reading of rezoning ordinance 772. And this is to rezone lots 21 through 24 and 40 through 43, block three and lots 18 through 20 and 33 through 34 in block five. and out lot three, out lot three in Western Meadows from residential to residential high density. Teresa, you got anything to add?

No, these are the lots out of the Western Meadows development just north of the industrial park. This is the Nielsen development, and if you recall back last fall, they had asked the city to consider adding another zoning to our regulations, which was residential, High density zoning. Basically it allows for a little bit smaller lot sizes and smaller setbacks on the side yards. Front and backyard are still the 25 just like regular residential. So that is what we did pass that zoning so that is part of our zoning regulations now. That is what Nielsen has geared his development to. These are still going to be single-family homes, single-family lots. Like I said, they're just going to have, he wants a high density for the smaller setbacks on the side, basically, is what he's kind of presented to us. So currently it's residential. This is just resounding to residential high density. And that BZ heard it earlier tonight, and they are recommending approval of it.

Motion to approve first reading of rezone ordinance 772. Second. Any discussion?

Hearing none, we will vote. Chilling. Yes. Horacek. Yes. Keel. Yes. Bowen. Yes. Mattson. Yes. Carlson. Yes. All right, we're probably a little bit... You got a joke or something you can tell us?

You're on camera.

You can turn it off. Did he ever say what's possible?

Just shy of 2,000 for the blowers out there. Just shy of 2,000 over the past couple of years. and the Mickelson lift station is 175 and our main lift station at that time was about 1800 bucks. Now we're at, between the lift station and the plant, about 4600.

Is that number that I see in the bills, that's lift station and everything, or is that?

Plants, 4,100. Lift stations, 536. Okay. We are probably 50, 2,000 more.

Okay.

Okay.

Mr. Nielsen or Kelly Everson, I'm just curious. What are these homes going to be going for or selling for?

I don't think during any of the P&Z meetings that I know of, I don't think he threw out a price on what he'd be selling, but he is gearing up to be more of a starter home, but what that price is nowadays, I don't know. For the school project that we just did. Yeah, that's actually, yeah. Oh, yes, yeah.

They're around that 1,100 square feet on the main. Okay. The ones we've got. All right.

He started on some of them, correct? No. We got the permits. Permits. Yeah, I'm sorry. We got to rezone it. He was waiting for this. Yeah.

He's ready to.

Yeah, people wouldn't start ahead of time. That's just not... We don't have it down in the minutes, or down in the agenda, but remember our U.S. 250, Hartford 130 celebration on the 17th of July. Make sure you make plans to attend. Will we as the council do anything for January days? That's another thing that we should probably talk about. I see we don't have that on the agenda either. Who's going to be here Saturday? Daryl, no.

Michelle, no. Travis, you here?

No. It's TBD. Are we hopping in the golf cart? Yeah, you can drive me around. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Let's figure out that.

Done. I will be, if you're planning for the... cheaper block party for something, just for the city to view. I'll volunteer for something. I'll probably be gone when you're making assignments, so don't give me a bad one. Oh, that's awesome. I don't know that we're going to make assignments. If you need something that day, I'll be back.

All right. I have 710. Let's move to the 710 public hearing. Review approved special wine license for Converse Wine Company. We've done this a few times. They love coming to our farmer's market. They're going to come again on the 25th or, oh, caught one here, June 225th, downtown farmer's market. Teresa's not listening. She's blocking me out. See, that's possible action.

Oh. Oh, no, I got to scan the license. That's a long one. Anyway.

There's a lot of big numbers. That's a big number. 250th, 130th, 200th.

225th, yeah.

I make a motion to approve the special wine license for the Conamerkey Wine Company on June 25th.

Second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Carlson? Yes. Mattson? Yes. Bowen? Yes. Keel? Yes. Bracha? Yes. Schilling? Yes. All right, now we're on to you guys, our visitors here tonight. Sam Treblok?

Treblok.

Treblok, okay. Houston Engineering, and who's your other guy?

Stan Hansen.

Stan Hanson.

And not Stan Houston.

So you sell tools on the side or what's the deal? They are with Houston Engineering and they are going to talk to us tonight about review of safe streets for all local plant, go.

Appreciate the time, you know, spam came tonight because we have a lot of communities to discuss this with. Southeastern Council of Governments applied for a same streets for all grant. That grant helped 19 communities in one county. to go through the Safe Streets for All regional safety action plan and also each community including yours has a local plan. I'm gonna go through that tonight so you guys get an idea. Some of the things that, some of the recommendations. The real point of this is a couple of different things. And the importance of this is first of all, it's to help get into the Safe Streets for All program. Once you have an action plan, you also let them have access to some grant funding. Not just the Safe Streets for All grant funding, but also grant funding in some of the other grants that would be a possibility. Also, we've gathered quite a bit of public engagement through this process of your citizens, and we'll talk about that a little bit later, but it's also important to gain a sense of what your citizens think about in terms of what needs to be safer on your street system. So, starting with the presentation, what is a safety action plan? I'm not going to read through all of this, Its aim is to reduce and eliminate serious injury and fatal crashes affecting all roadway users. So not just drivers, but also pedestrian, bicycle, all roadway users. So it's a lot of data analysis, so we're really looking at crash data. But we're also, as I mentioned, also looking at public engagement, because the public is going to be able to tell us where possibly crashes could occur, whether it's close calls, and one of those things that you need to be aware of in the future. So why a regional plan really allows, again, for these communities, these 20 different entities to come together and put a plan together that might be difficult for you to do individually. So that's kind of the nice part of this is that there's a major expense for you to do it for yourself. So that's one of the main things here. Next slide, Stan. So one of the main things that we put together on a regional basis is what we call a high-injury network. So we looked across the entire six-county area. Really half of the communities in the Seekai area did this. And what you're looking at is the largest concentration of crashes where victims are killed or severely injured. You're also looking at some of the regional inputs. We're prioritizing those regional projects. and identifying where we should maybe put the biggest emphasis. In the Seekon area, the HIM resulted in less than 1% of the roadways, in which 80% of the fatal and serious injury corrections occurred. So we're really zooming in on specific areas that have the biggest issues. Next slide. So public engagement, this is what we did throughout the entire planning process. There was 21 unique, we had a website, the project website. It's still out there. I'll point you guys to it as we get to the next step. But we had 2,100 people that visited the website. There was 1,400 contributions to the website in some way. There was about 500 surveys that were completed and there was about 900 in which they actually went out In Hartford, there was 50 pinpoints that were put up, down, and 60 surveys that were completed.

Next slide.

So this gives you a regional vision of the goal. It was really looking at and focusing on in the Seacott region is to collaboratively looking at it collectively. The goal is to, and federal highways really looking at trying to eliminate all serious and fatal injuries. I know that's a high goal, but that is the goal, and it's something we want to transfer here too. So regional strategies that we found bicycle safety, improve school traffic safety, reduce the failure to stop or yield, improve visibility, especially at the intersections, and then prioritize the proven safety countermeasures. We'll talk about those in a second. So these are the countermeasures that seem to be the most applicable in the things like pavement friction management. Some things aren't real expensive at all. Centerline rumble strips, lighting, LED flashing stop signs. A lot of times people, really, they don't even just see the stop signs. You need to really enhance that. Next slide. Although not everybody likes them, certainly roundabouts can be a major There's also application of low-cost common measures, things to very simply help people stop at intersections, things like longitudinal rumble strips and stripes. Those are the things that you can need more sidewalks. Traffic calming measures can help with their speed situations. There's simple ways of doing that, too. So I'm just going to go through, generally, the regional prioritized projects and give you a spread of them. And you can see these are where the projects were showing up on the high-entry network, and then we prioritized those projects. On the next set of maps, you'll see Turner County, Durham County was the only county that was a part of this project. And then you can see down in Canton and southern part of Lincoln County there. And all the way down on the next slide, we went to Elsinore for milling. Those included listed at quite a few projects down there in North Sioux City and Jefferson. So not every community in this project, you guys did, you had some projects on the High Injury Network, and I'll get to those in a second. Not every community, especially some of the smaller towns did, but we are doing local plans for So we identified some of the places that you could receive grants to help you with some of these safety improvements. One of the big things we'll probably talk about here in El Garibay is the Transportation Alternatives, they also call it the CAP program. You guys have used that here and that's applicable in the end. So starting with the local plan and giving them specifically the Hartford, the next and first plan we discuss is project 18. So it's pretty high on the high entry network. I don't know if it was exactly 18 because we identified when we tried to make it a little bit more anonymous, but it certainly was in the top half. There's 23 crashes on this section. This is kind of on the way out of town. Big scratch itself for the 38. And you can see some of the crashes that occurred. This is over the five year period. This is a five year period. The last, the most recent five year period. Now, the things that you'll see is a lot on this with that. We talked to South Florida DOT about this even recently. But we also want to highlight it as something that's really important because we know it's important for your community. So one thing that was really recommended here and I think is important is the speed study. We've heard about that and we know it's a barrier to get people across. And then just a splash and then also try out the common measures. So some of the options, and none of these are identified as this is what you have to do, but there are options from the rumble, shoulder rumble strips, roundabouts, speed feedback signs, can be really simple with the speed feedback sign. Enhanced lighting around the corridor and then access control measures. So access control would be either moving, lining up, closing driveways to try to help with some of those situations to make it safer. So this kind of gets into the specifics about each intersection, major intersection. Again, what you'll see with each one of these, you might see, for instance, pedestrian crosswalk visibility enhancements. You have them identified, but there's some things you could do to probably enhance the visibility. I would recommend that as something that's pretty simple at some of those intersections. Traffic signals are recommended at 2nd and Mickelson. and that's gonna be important. Also, you'll see that each one of these, certainly a roundabout could be possible. I don't think I would ever do it at all, all four of them, but one thing you know as you're coming through town is you would have to stop at any point in time, and that does tend to increase speed issues along that corridor. So some options for you and some things to really look at. Next slide then gets into Project 74, which is also on the High Injury Network. So there are seven crashes along this area. This is on Osha Avenue from 6th to 12th Street. Some were included pedestrians, and this was over by the Sunshine and the Pizza Ranch over there. What we recommend there is some additional sidewalk connectivity. And really being consistent, and it's already, as we've talked to Teresa about, on your sidewalk master plan. So it plays into exactly what you guys are seeing already. But also look at access management and maybe some low cost stop control enhancements of those intersections with some issues with stop control there. So improving that would help that situation. Next slide. Western Avenue, even though this is a, um, Minneapolis County roadway, this is, um, had one incapacitated crash in the last five years and had 1,200 crashes. So it's really pretty high on, on the list. Um, so I certainly would, would keep it in mind even though it's kind of on your border. Um, now recently, uh, Minneapolis County did a corridor study there too, and it recommended access management improvements. short-term doing a template site on the east side, which is in the city, certainly would fully agree with that. is to do it on both sides as things start to develop. In the meantime, low cost stock compliance, there's some issues people coming off the side streets on either they're not seeing the cross traffic, so you might want to do some things with the visibility enhancements there too, and stop control enhancements of the stock zones. Sam, you mentioned the data here was just part Yeah, so it is typically five years that you go back and looking. You can always go back further, but on this one, that's what's recommended for this study. So local projects that we identified, we also identified side paths in Mickelson from Turtle Creek Drive to Highway 38. We certainly heard a lot about pedestrians, and that really makes sense for us to continue to improve those, the bicycle and safety, and then the side path of the bus trip a certain master plan, certainly those are something we highlight and encourage from the public and would be consistent to identify as part of the local projects. Plus it would also, we think, give you a little bit more ammunition to go after. Next. So there's just a few other projects that kind of came up through the public engagement. One is Mickelson Road speed and growth area study. They're a little bit hard to read, but speed, I've seen that quite often in quite a few communities. If you could figure out a way to make that work, I bet anything I would do is . That's probably the way you're going to figure it out. But I know a lot of communities are dealing with that. So what we'll be doing, we're not asking for approval tonight. to brief you on this. What's coming and will be coming in your next or certainly one of the next council meetings is the safety action plan review that kind of takes you through the whole thing just like I did here. So it won't be any surprises. There'll be a little bit more data. This needs to be updated a little bit because we're just finishing the last phases of that. If you go to the next slide. And the rest of what I already did will be included in the appendices of this. And then if you move on to the next slide, Stan. What we'll be asking them for is a resolution for approval of the regional plan for the city of Hartford to approve the regional plan and then your local plan. So this is the brief, we're not asking for approval tonight. So other than that, I'll take any questions.

You mentioned Highway 38, Project 18. Since it's DOT, there ain't really much the city can do with that.

Well, what I would say is that I think there is. Because you guys live here. I think there's certainly, whether it's Travis and Harry over there or one or two, if you guys recommend the speed study. If you wanted to push that speed study, I think they would certainly listen to you back. Maybe you could say, hey, we'd like to move forward with that speed study. on the roadways, DOTs, but I think we've been consistent enough here that everyone would, because they didn't really specify in the study for sure what would be done. That's why they said let's do the speed study.

So would DOT do the speed study or would that be up to Hart kind of do the speed study?

I would probably say that DOT would want if you guys wanted to, if you wanted me to pass on the things we're talking to them as part of the study, I can say, you know, hey, you guys probably want to do this and we'll get back to you.

The state's involved in this plan as well, right? I mean, they've been on the meetings too, so will you have a list of recommendations like you have, you know, for the state?

This is, we passed these recommendations to them. Okay. So they...

they know what we're yeah what you're recommending for highway 38 in hartford and what they do appear to be a little standoffish i'll call i'll say that when we ask them before for speed because as our town keeps growing east and we put more people out there We're going to need to do something. People come flying underneath that interstate bridge. We kind of use that as our waypoint, so to speak. That's where we think, not everybody, but I think most of us would say, if we could slow people down right there, that would help us immensely.

And I think we've talked about that. And then we brought that up to the state a few times. And not even just the city. Residents have brought it up and developers. And they don't seem to want to do any reduction. Unless we get a lot of crashes and something like that.

Yeah, that's what's unfortunate. There still is this, hey, you've got to show and prove it by crashes. What this program is trying to do is put a lot more emphasis on future electing. I'm not saying you're going to totally get there, but I think the first place you're going to see it there is probably a simple election.

Well, that Mickelson 38 intersection is already starting. I'm not going to call it a cold. But it's very busy. And now with that quick start going in, that is going to be a bad place.

So what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to get to according to warrant that. It'll have to be warranted. And so DOT will go through that warrant process. So once there's enough traffic on the cross, So you'll hit the one. because of developments occurring there.

Yeah, it's coming out of the city too. That speed limit goes up right before the curb and then they get around the curb and then there's the cross traffic. So that's what I heard in the past is until there's issues, they won't really reconsider the speed reduction. So this is supposed to give us a condition for them to consider a speed study student.

Well, one of the things I certainly want to hear from you is your recommendations. And some of those things I take back is that speed is an issue. And you want to see, I can do that and see what the recommendations are in terms of what the process is next. That's kind of what I'm hearing from you. So how do we get moving forward with the speed stuff?

I think between the school and that Mickelson intersection, the speed limit goes up. with the multifamily and the other developments now coming down that road and the quick start opening, that's gonna multiply quick.

I think even sooner, I mean, when you're talking about like by war torn, you know, I had such a hard time on Highway 38 going underneath the interstate at 65 and the people coming off of the interstate pull out in front. Right in front of you. And you know, you have to watch for that because they don't, it's really difficult to see the traffic that's coming. And people think they have more time, I don't know. You have to slam on your brakes. You're looking back under the bridge around the corner. Yeah. It's really hard. So in my opinion, it needs to slow down even way prior to that because of that blind area and the traffic coming off of the interstate there turning onto Highway 38 and then turning into traffic that's going 65 in there.

There's a lot of truck traffic that turns in and out of that over Bay Center. Very much so. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, and I don't know how far. I mean, I always use the interstate as kind of, because I don't know how far they're going to let us say, you know, or would even be receptive to us saying, hey, we want to go back to Buffalo Ridge or the Kempcast Corner or whatever it may be. I don't know that they're going to be receptive. So I usually just say, even if we could get them to slow down by the time they got underneath the interstate. that would help.

And the other thing I always think... Maybe if you ask for a little more, they'd be more willing to give you... Maybe. Well, we'll go this far, you know.

If you're going the other way and you're coming up out of town and it changes from 35 to 50 down by the school, when people top that hill and they can just barely get a glimpse of the 65 sign, they are absolutely punching it. If you're sitting there not paying attention, waiting to pull out, because I've seen it happen, people will pull out and they don't realize those people are coming... And I'm actually surprised. Remember we had one of those studies and the DOT guy said there hadn't been a crash at that intersection? And I'm telling you, I did not believe them.

There's been a multiple.

Close. I bet there's been.

In that turning up to Hartford Heights development. Yeah. Some bad ones.

Do they ever pull off speeding tickets as part of these studies? No. Um, citations, I don't believe they are unless it's part of a crash. The other thing I would say is that, you know, because there's no place to stop along this corridor, really, friction-wise, slowing down, that's part of it, too. Oh, yeah. So there's things you could look at there. And that speed study would help.

And it's fantastic that we're putting that bike path walking trail along Mickelson to Highway 38, but there's no help crossing 38 to the other side where the path is and people cross it every day. So I think that just also contributes. And I know the connectivity is back through the park or back through that way, People go to 38 and they go across to the background.

And I don't know if one of those flashing lights, do you think one of those flashing lights right at that spot would help? Because like I say, they're going to come up over that hill.

I think anything would be better.

Yeah, hopefully it would slow them down, but if, you know.

We'd have to complete that sidewalk and then have crosswalks, but then I don't know if the deal... DOT does not like to slow the traffic down. The problem is it's 50 there. They don't want the traffic to move.

I know. That's the worst thing. All right. Any other comments for these guys?

No. I mean, I just hope it can also be used for those conversations. And so if there's anything we can do with the plan, you know, to extend it, I think that intersection was definitely on there. I don't think it's going to be five years from now. I think it's, you know, much sooner, but it's going to be 50 miles an hour through that interception is problematic.

Let's say if they put a roundabout in there, do they all have to be matching speeds when they come into a roundabout? I don't know what the rules would be. So it wouldn't work there because you have probably three different speeds.

You would have, the roundabout will work better as you come further down. Right.

And the question on roundabout, I mean, you were talking about angle crashes. That's almost like a T-bone. Is that what the angle crash would be? That's a T-bone. That's what it is. So on a roundabout, do they actually reduce the amount of crashes? Because I would think that there might be more fender benders, but there'd be less fatal or angle crashes. That's just with no basis of this.

Yeah, so... Where you see it really is where those angle crashes are the fatal and serious injuries. You're right, you can still have some crashes where they're rear-ending, but they're slow. They can be slow.

So definitely less fatal, that makes sense, but maybe the same amount of crack.

I pulled up, according to the Federal Highway Administration, there's fewer fatal crashes, fewer serious injury crashes, fewer right angle or T-bone collisions. because I don't like them that much, but the data out there available appears relatively strong. Yeah, I hear you.

Yeah, it also really depends on how you design them. You've got to make sure that the traffic's slowing down before it gets there and all those things.

You can almost go to Vandermark all the way from the interstate. And then going on Western, it seems like the streets that go into Western, Western is pretty high. Yes, it is. I think that is... part of the issue because you're low. You're right. Then you have to pop up. Yeah.

And I think that just almost forces people. They don't even stop. They start up that hill and bang, they're right onto the road.

They don't even... Well, I live off of one of those side streets and I know, and I've lived there for a long time, but when I get off of 6th Street and if I'm going on Western... It's hard to tell sometimes how fast those cars are coming off of 38, turning onto Western. So sometimes they look further back, but they're hitting 45 or 50 miles an hour. Right there.

I can see why there's some crash. Would you recommend something like, I've seen them on highways where they see trucks entering, or you have a car entering from the side.

You could, but maybe that wouldn't work in those city streets. You could, but just typically they're typically on roadways because there's one major road that's stopped and there tends to be a All right. Anything else? Thank you. That was a great, yeah.

You told us a few new things, that's always good. Some of what we knew, some of what we expected. All right, thank you guys for coming out. All right, let's move back down to reports. We're to building inspection code enforcement. Kyle Christensen is here tonight.

Does anybody have any questions on the building or code enforcement?

Looks like you got a lot of stuff on the building side. Looks like you've been busy. You got a lot of... How are we doing on code enforcement? Tommy here for Tall Grass and Weeds.

Sounds like it's a hot topic in Lenox, too. Yeah. Let's not go there.

I prefer to stay in Hartford. All right. Anybody got any questions for Kyle? Keep doing her. All right. Let's turn her over to Michael for the most exciting part of the evening, the engineer's report. You're back.

I am back. UD01 report is in your packet. Not much has changed since last week, but I will say the preliminary 60% documents for the Brood Trail and Brood Lane and Diamond Trail intersection and cost estimate have been provided for it. Councilor, we will continue to push those plans for completion of mid-July and get an independent council approval. I'm happy to answer any other questions you may have on the report that have come up in the past week.

Is there any questions? If not, we'll move down to our action item. We're going to discuss a little bit tonight.

Kelly Abbott.

All right, hearing none, we'll move down to that. You want me to start? Go for it. So I kind of teased this a little bit last week in some of our meetings that we've been having between Craig, Michael, Justin, Teresa, and myself. Karen, I think, was even in on one. We talked about Kelly avenue and some options and you see that they're the enhanced visualization is in your packet and he's also handing some stuff out. But what I want to point out to you guys is kind of what I teased a little bit last meeting i think it was craig's maybe can we give craig good credit for this idea that we should test around this yeah he's he's deserving yeah i mean we'll give him a big hand so Craig came up with an idea that thought maybe we should test run the one option. The residents seemed pretty open to it the night that they were here. Since that meeting I've had a couple of them reach out to me that said hey we would have no problem if you wanted to try this. It looks like it would be the least So what I would like the council to consider is that probably from mid-July to mid-August, so we can get our test run done before school started, we would turn that into a one-way, temporary one-way street.

There was nobody like...

I don't think there was anybody that was really there.

I think it would give them an opportunity to just see if it's practical.

Because really, I don't think we know until we at least give it a run.

So what's the parking stitch on that then?

That's going to be the thing that we're going to have to have a little discussion with them. I would assume we would probably want them all to park on one side, correct?

Well, with the one way, it would give you parking on both sides. It would give you sidewalk on both sides. So that's what's kind of... And we won't be able to test around the sidewalks, but... That's enough room for parking on both sides.

Assuming they park on the curb and don't leave the gap, but yes.

That provides a 10-foot drive lane, which should in theory keep the speeds lower. Yes, correct. Because that's going to be snug. It'll feel snug, yes. It'll feel snug, yeah.

But you have to have two sidewalks in that option? Or that one way?

Well, that's the way we've got it drawn up right now.

Those are one of the options we came up with. As Mayor Jones said, we wouldn't be able to put sidewalks in here, but we could.

It's just that residents really want to hear a word about their law. Oh, absolutely.

Yep.

That's why when I saw two, I said, oh, that's good, and then we get everybody now instead of just one side.

You're making the road smaller, though, so you're having room for the sidewalks.

I mean, in my opinion, I think what we're going to end up with, if we get there eventually, is some sort of a hybrid. I like this with the boulevards and the two sidewalks, but I don't know... Because what we talked about this afternoon a little bit was, what happens when we run this all the way out? Let's just say you run those sidewalks out the way they are. What do we do with all those big trees? How many trees get disrupted? How does that look when you get down around the corner? I mean, how much land are we disrupted from these guys? We may come back to this and say, it just doesn't work. But the one thing that they discussed that night when all the residents were here was, Well, gee, which side are we going to have? If we only have one sidewalk, which side is the sidewalk going to be on? If we only park on one side, which side are we going to park on? And really, I think we maybe joked with them and said, well, we'll probably just have to flip a coin and see, you know, how that goes. But that's going to be the biggest discussion is how do we decide Who gets what, so to speak.

Because there wasn't agreement. No, no. But there was not agreement on which side would be allowed sidewalk and which side would have parking. There was not agreement on that.

But I think if we test run and we allow them to park on both sides.

And there's sidewalk on both sides.

Well, we can't test run the sidewalk, yeah. I mean, maybe we could stake it out, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what we're going to have to do.

If we're going to take this to full task, we should probably do that.

We should probably stake that out.

So what they've got in these pictures is that is 5-1. That's standard. That's not standard boulevard width. Correct. So where there is a boulevard between the curb and the sidewalk, it is five foot.

But where the sidewalk is attached, like in the bottom two options, you want that to be six foot just with being adjacent to the road, just for some additional pedestrian safety. I really like that. I like this. Which one? The bottom one. I like this one right here. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. It's a small area, so I don't know if I see the function of two sidewalks just because it serves a small population. I like the one side.

Which side you put it on, though, yeah.

Well, that's where hopefully the engineering firm says, okay, we... Where are you going? This is going to be the least disruptive.

I was going to say, if you stick it out, that might give some insight as to this side, there's going to be five trees that got to go. This side, you're clear. Or there's one. Maybe something will make sense.

That block... is getting younger and younger. And so I would think you could make the argument that both sides may want a sidewalk because it's a great place to teach the kids how to ride a bike. It gives you a little buffer if the kids are running towards the street. There's an argument to be made for the one-way separate walks concept.

You just changed my mind. Because we have a sidewalk in front of our house, and my kids go down there. I mean, that's a good point.

Well, I think this is a case where any of these solutions will actually help real estate values in that, you know, compared to what there is. Oh, yeah. This will be a nice improvement for them.

It makes a good point of, like, the barrier is the sidewalk. You can't go past the sidewalk, you know, when your kids are playing on the floor.

Yep, 100%. So I think... Tonight really what we wanted to do was have you guys take a look at this. If we're in agreeance that we want to do the test run, what we'll do is put together a letter, send it to all the citizens down there and just say, starting, we'll pick a date, we'll just say, You know, this is what we're going to, this is what we're supposed to do. We'll tell them if they got any questions, they can call City Hall. Either Teresa can compile the questions, get them to Craig, and Craig can go answer them all, or, you know.

Which way is it going to be the one way?

We're going to go from 2nd down south. Down south. We're heading south? Toward Vandermark. Yes, toward Vandermark. What's the reasoning for that?

You don't want to bring the traffic on, especially during the mornings. Oh, yeah.

We're dumping the traffic down to the back end on Vandermark. which I think makes more.

Then you push them on the railroad or you push them back up around on Vandermark, right?

They've got three options there. You've got First Street, they've got Vandermark, they've got railroad.

And really, if they live there and they're going to take their kids to school, they can really easily get there.

If they wanted to try it, I don't know why we wouldn't.

Go the other direction.

Well, no, if that group wanted to try, if they liked or were intrigued by the idea of the one way, I don't know why we wouldn't.

Oh, yeah, right. But I just wanted to make sure you guys knew that.

See, I was on the opposite, because if I'm going to park my car in the street, I don't want to park it windshield into the sun. I want to park it tail into the sun so it doesn't get as warm, but. I guess that's more of a selfish reason, not necessarily a traffic flow reason. Something called an up-down.

That's a first world, that's an up-down problem, as we've found out over the years.

Yeah, if you're coming home, you're down 38, you're down second, you're a quick turn onto Kelley, you're home, but in the morning, it all makes sense.

For all intents and purposes, it's a one-minute detour. Yeah, it's leaving your home, I mean, in fact.

It'd be our first one-way. It'd be our first one-way.

All we've got to do now is figure out how to put a roundabout on either end and we'd be...

This could be, could this apply?

You must either love or hate rambos. I love rambos. I hate them.

I love rambos.

They're amazing on a motorcycle. They're fantastic. They're the safest.

I love them.

So do you think we should...

I don't mind them when I'm used to them. I hate going somewhere that's like... And it's a new hole. Should we send out... More than one lane, so much lanes, one lane, like what's going on here?

Should we just send out a letter to let them know this is what we plan on doing? Oh, yeah. I think that's... Yeah, that's the next step.

We'll send them a letter and say, we decided we're going to do a test run. I don't know what way. We'll have pavement markings, you know, more stuff kind of laid out for them. We'll do it from this date to this date, and then I think after the test run... We'll have a meeting.

Okay, what are your thoughts and feelings? I think you should give them a form. and have them evaluate. Sure. Oh, absolutely. That's a great idea.

Or a QR code, Michael, where they can go on their phone

Right, let's give them a hard copy.

And tire poppers, if they try to navigate the wrong direction, they just get flat tires. I guess, yeah.

We might have to, maybe not a letter, but post it out on media for everybody else. Yeah, for the rest of the citizens, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. Residents need a letter, but we'll post it out there.

Right away at the beginning, as you come off of, Second, and then also on Vandenberg, we'll put Type 3 barricades right where the parking's at, probably about 20 feet in or so. 15 people will figure out that distance. We'll paint arrows in the center of the road. Going down, we'll get some more white signs. On the other end, on Vandenberg's side, we'll have two barricades again. Do not enter. Do not enter. A lot of stuff with an arrow pointing out. We'll make it as... Love it.

There's more than one way to solve a problem. What's the one? Come on, we need something fun.

There's one way to solve the problem.

A couple of the residents that I've talked with, they really think this is a great idea.

I wish I came up with it. Good job, Craig.

Good job, Craig.

Good job. I just came up with the test run.

Boy, these are nice visualizations. Too bad I didn't look at them before I started sending you emails this afternoon, Michael.

It's just so tidy looking.

I said, aren't we going to get pictures?

And then I scrolled down farther.

And then I realized that I had to move the screen. Oh, man, I was really...

No, I don't know that they, I don't know that we had a,

The biggest thing, Darrell, is most of them are worried about losing their trees. That was the biggest, that night they were here, I think more of them commented about, man, we don't want to lose all of our front yard, we don't want to lose our trees. You know.

I've got a question. So on some of these older parts of town, so five foot is like a big, like that to me is a big sidewalk. So do we have some, I would imagine we have some three foot sidewalks in there?

Four foot is the narrowest.

What, four foot?

Four foot is the narrowest one. Okay. But we followed anyway. Okay.

We got to get our sidewalk initiative going again.

I know a guy.

He's been busy. Yeah.

All right. So we don't need any action. We're just going to...

I think it was a consensus.

We'll have a letter for you guys to look at by the next meeting. How's that sound? Are there any ash trees on that boulevard? There's got to be.

I think there's a couple in there. I can't remember for sure. We've got a map of town with all the ash trees.

Thank you. That was good. Great discussion, everybody. Ash assessment.

Turning one way to make your day.

There's more than one way.

Don't worry, you're going the right way. One way because two is too much.

All right, okay.

There's more than one way to solve your problem. I like that. All right, let's move over. Oh, we got anything else, Michael? That it? That gives you enough direction? You know where it is? All right, thank you. Let's move over to Craig's report.

Just a couple different things that are in the report that from last week, whatever. May water's been completed, so that's out of the, we got that done for now anyway. Future facility, we got the permit from the landfill and I got ahold of Kathleen with Danner yesterday and they have our stuff and they're gonna push to get our permit for that so we can get rid of our biosolids. And for the Picamo Court, concrete's been poured today.

Wonderful. They were pouring this morning.

Yep, so in 30 days we'll be ready to service it so we need a lot of hours to get Anybody sponsored that already? That's all I got for the updates.

Did you get a chance to look at that park bench at Turtle Creek by chance? Okay, I texted you, but at the Turtle Creek Park, when you walk off that walk from the sidewalk into the park, that park bench I think is just the concrete's out. If you sit down there, you can't even touch your feet on the ground. It's sitting way back. You don't have to take a look. You can just go over there.

Did you send me a text? I did, yeah. It's okay.

It was a couple weeks ago. Because we go there and play, and every time I go sit, I'm like, And it's like leaning back, I'm like, yeah, this is, yeah, but it came up probably, yeah, from the flooding, I'm guessing.

All right.

I noticed that the lights on the welcome to Hartford sign, they're only there if I sit with my vehicle and shine at that sign. Can you just sit there?

We can turn it some more. We've turned it some, but we can turn it some more. Is that what you're saying?

No, we need to get our solar lights on our welcome. Oh, them? Yeah, them, Craig. Craig, those lights we've talked about two or three times.

I got quotes and stuff.

I'm actually going to get it more. We're making steps. It's been on the budget since last year.

Yeah, let's get her spent before we budget again for another year.

I got some quotes, updated quotes, just to see if I can get a better deal than what they are, but they'll be ordered.

Okay. There's a whole article about why the LED lights are purple. It's a real problem in certain communities. So just be careful. Beware the low bid. We don't want to turn that sign purple.

I don't think these are low bid. I think you're kind of spending a couple thousand dollars. For solar lights?

Yeah. Yeah, it's cheap compared to if you had an iron electrician.

Wow.

So I could kind of show you what I call it.

That's self-reflection right there. They call that. I'm aware.

Yeah.

Go ahead, Darrell.

Go ahead. When they're done pouring that concrete, then they'll fill it around the concrete.

Yeah, that's actually going to get done tomorrow. They're going to pull forms on the pick-em-up court. Yep, so we're pulling forms tomorrow and Eric's already gonna head up to Skidding in the morning and take that gravel and lay it back so there's no hump there and then get dirt done.

Well, I was gonna say, we were at the park this weekend and it looked like to fill in around the different shelters I don't know the gravel or whatever they put there, but that's awfully rocky. And when I came into one of those shelters, there were rocks and stuff all over the floor. And if your kids are coming in there with barefoot and everything like that, it'd be pretty uncomfortable. I don't know if there's any- We can look at it and see if we can do something different.

Yeah. Yep.

I know they did it in some of them because they just, they're so muddy. That's what I told them. I said, I'm sure this is just because it's all mud. We can see if we can't put some maybe to help hold the dollar or something.

I was on one of the sports complex Sunday. And yeah, that sign out there looks great. It's really nice. It really makes that look very professional. It's really tied in with part of the community. The signage? In my mind, when I purchased the sign to be installed out there, I envisioned it being on the inside of the fence so the spectators could look out and see the people that sponsored those fields. Where they're at currently, as you walk into the field from the west, you can see the sponsors. If you walk into the fields from the north, you can see the sponsors. So I'm not sure whose decision that was.

So we've been trying to get them to tell us where they want them at, and that's where most of them said they want them, either on the walkway or on the backside so they can be seen from Highway 38, or from Western Avenue.

As a guy who's got four signs out there and two of them are across from each other here and two of them are across from each other there, I was like, I would rather them be on the inside of the outfield fence. So as the spectators sit there, they see the sponsors, which is in my brain how all sports fields are.

Yeah. So one of the things we talked like for year four. Yep. if we put them on fields three and four, they aren't going to be seen out there because they don't play on those fields as much.

Sure, sure. I could be coerced into this. Put them on the inside.

I always tell Teresa, I said, ask them where they want them so we know where to put them at.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, there's zip ties so we can move them. Sure, got it. If you've got a different location for yours, we can certainly move it.

Yeah, I was just like, oh, that seems.

We tried to find the most visible, you know, like in the high school games, they put that other fence up too. Oh, inside fence, yeah. At 150 feet to where it is. Right. But yeah, we can put them wherever I try to get a location for them.

Sure, sure, exactly.

Okay.

Awesome.

We just thought the first two fields in that area are most visible for all the advertising because, like I said, field four doesn't really get used. I mean, more for practice. There is some games out there.

I'm thinking all the tournaments that are probably being held up there. Now that the concession stands in, all the fields are done.

One schedule.

No, thank you for your input, and thanks for listening to me. I'm listening to the Sports Interact meeting. There was some, I think, I don't know if the lighting was discussed at that meeting. Some lighting. The park board? Yeah, the park board meeting. Would the field get used more if they had a lit field out there?

You'd probably... If you have one left field, you'd probably, I think the difference you'd see is the high school games, but instead of the varsity playing first, you'd see the varsity playing later, because that way they could play a full game, and all the varsity plays first. Typically, the parks are closed at 10 o'clock, and it's night until nine-ish. I'm sure you'd pick up some games. Just how much do we want to... You definitely have tournaments, I think, because some of the tournaments go a little further than that.

We're doing a new softball complex over in Worthington. And that was a joint venture between the school district and the city. So I'm not sure of all the details of how that went, but... I think the electrician donated it away. We should know about what it would cost. To be honest, Moscow, that part of the contract was handled directly between the school and the city of Moscow, so I'm not sure what that involved.

That was quick.

All right. Anything else, Craig?

Nope, that's all. Anybody got any questions?

Any other questions for Craig? All right, let's keep moving through. Karen.

Yeah, my report's in the packet. The only thing I had to add is I was just going to provide a little recap. I went to a finance officer's school last week. It was a good session. I had some great speakers. The first day there was one on team building. The second day it was on difficult solutions, respect polls. or difficult situations, respectful solutions.

So if you have an irate customer or irate hotel, how to handle those things.

So they were very good. And then the sessions that the league provided, there was one on elections, liquor licensing, cyber security, that was very interesting. Property taxes, Robert's rule, how to conduct a meeting, and then a Q&A session. Cool. Yeah, it was good. I was glad I went.

Was that at Cedar Lot? It was at Cedar Shores. Cedar Shores, yeah.

Great facility, great food. So much better than here, if I must say. But yeah, it was nice. One of the nights I didn't sign up, but they even have pontoon rides. That's one of our activities right there on the river. Yeah, it was good.

Good. Well, thank you for that. Sure. I see, well, never mind. Well, we don't have another meeting before now and then, but starting on Friday the 3rd, they can start giving petitions, right? Correct.

We'll be closed that day. So if you're here at City Hall, you better come by. But you can pull them off the state website as long as you have a notary to notarize your signature.

All right. Anybody got any questions for Karen? Thank you. Karen? Sure. Teresa, what have you got to add to yours?

I don't have too much to add to mine. I do want to point out, me and Craig have an interview on Thursday for another applicant for the wastewater facility. This is a decent applicant, so we'll see after the interview or whatnot, so I may have an update for you on that, so hopefully that goes well. JUST A REMINDER OF THAT SPECIAL REQUEST BUDGET MEETING THAT'S GOING TO BE JULY 6TH. THAT'LL BE RIGHT BEFORE JULY 7TH MEETING. THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE ENTITIES COME AND HAVE THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR US. SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR. WE'RE GOING TO START THAT AT 7 O'CLOCK. AND I'VE ALREADY SENT OUT NOTICES TO THE ENTITIES, AND I'LL SEND OUT ANOTHER REMINDER PROBABLY NEXT WEEK AS WE GET CLOSER JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE NEW PROCEDURE AND THE TIME AND WHATNOT. I WENT TO, FOR A FINANCE OFFICE SCHOOL, I WENT TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE SCHOOL AS WELL. THAT WAS IN CEDAR SHORES. IT WAS FOR A DAY AND A HALF. I JUST WENT FOR THAT ONE DAY BECAUSE WE ENDED UP CHANGING OUR COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK, SO I CAME BACK HERE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. SO I DIDN'T GET TO QUITE AS MANY SESSIONS, BUT THERE WAS TWO DURING THAT DAY THAT WAS HELD. kind of put it in my ram one was really good it was talking about your employee manual we you know recently updated that and i i think a lot of things they point up you know make sure you have this make sure you have this we've got covered um they did give us kind of a checklist and i haven't yet but i want to sit down and just make sure we have everything covered they should but it was good to to kind of go through it's like okay yeah we got that yeah we got that okay so i felt pretty secure in ours but i'll just kind of re-look at that and then they had an attorney there kind of talking about um kind of some of the the same things um just about the do's and don'ts you know working in public government of working with the public and with other entities and whatnot and she had some good stories of a lot of what not to do. So it was a good session as well. Still working with Jill, just getting details with the 250th and the 130th and the block party worked out. So I think all the things are coming together pretty good on that. GROW POT HAS T-SHIRTS, AND IF YOU KNOW US, YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND ORDER T-SHIRTS FOR IT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, WE DECIDED TO, YOU GET AN EXTRA Raffle TICKET IF YOU WEAR YOUR T-SHIRT TO THE EVENT, SO ORDER YOUR T-SHIRTS AND GET THOSE. WE DID, I SHOWED ARTA, TOO, OUR BANNERS CAME IN THAT WE ORDERED FOR. THEY ARE IN. We're going to put them up. We're going to let the veterans banner stay up there through July 4th weekend and then so that following Monday the 6th we'll get these banners up and going there so we'll be up during our event. They look nice. They turn out good. And then I just today I did hire the last park work person. We've got all the employees we need for it so that program's a go and We pushed it out today to the public that want to take and sign up and we'll be ready to go here in July. So we're good there.

T-shirts are on the city website?

There's a link on the city website you can go to. Yep, it's right in the front page on the top. The link you can click there. Or you can go straight. We're getting them through roll cops. So you can go on to their online store or go to the link on the city's website. So, yeah.

They're nice.

I like the tank top option.

yeah you thought maybe july hot summer you know i'd like that so you can either like wear a t-shirt men or women's or through the tank option all right okay any questions for theresa um i just noticed in this the smga has the leadership thing yes have we will that be publicized can should we do that We're SMGA members, right?

We're SMGA members. I mean, you can do it. Yeah, they just sent out an email about it.

I'm going to their meeting, the SMGA meeting tomorrow, so I'm sure I'm going to get more details then. I think it's going to be on, I'm sure it's on the end.

We should get people into it. I mean, I don't know who, I'm just saying.

I think that it's considered, because it's like an eight month program and whatnot. Yeah. two of the beans I've got, so I don't know how beneficial it'll be, because I think you're only supposed to miss one, and they recommend out of it, is what the email said. I think it's something that I do regularly, though.

I'm hoping they will, anyway. Forward Sioux Falls, or?

Leadership. Leadership Sioux Falls. I mean, I do think, hopefully there's, younger leaders within the community. I mean, this was something that we talked about at the AJDS strategic planning. It was leadership development within our community, not just for business, but for community or public service. I think this is a good opportunity to encourage people within the community to make a commitment and apply. I would agree.

I have a feeling that I'm going to get more information tomorrow. That's my hope.

I mean, this should be one of the benefits of membership.

Yes. And I don't know, did it say in there what it costs?

It's like $1,500.

How much? It's $1,500, I think, this year.

Yeah, there's somebody donating to one of the banks or something.

Yeah, they got a good contribution, so it's only $1,500 this year. I don't know what it would be right early, but I know it's $1,500 this year.

All right. Good idea. All right, anything else for Teresa? If not, we'll move to new business. We got one item. This is to review, quote, to add additional cameras. I believe Craig and Teresa both last meeting talked about how we've been having some vandalism. We want to add some additional cameras to our system. We have the system in place. This is just adding additional cameras, correct?

Correct, yeah. Let's see, we'd have to pay the cost of the cameras and then we like to put them in the park area. Basically, one up at Swenson Park. It's kind of out there in the middle under the concession stand. Two in the main park. One by the Large restroom area, because that's where a lot of the vandalism happens. And then by our new pickleball courts in that restroom area. One at Turtle Creek Restroom. And then we thought we would replace the camera for our dump site. We do have a camera there and on the left. it's not the best resolution, especially when you zoom in as far as getting license plates or whatnot. So those are the five areas we've identified anyway. And so that's a quote for adding five cameras. And then we have to add the SIM cards for the, since we don't have Wi-Fi, you know, this would be use cellular data then. So it would be the cards to use the cellular data with it.

Do we have anything at the pool?

No, most of the vandalism is like in the bathrooms themselves. Basically, hopefully they'll see who's going in and out, so when we do have vandalism in there, we can at least maybe look at it and see who we have at that time, or if it continues to be the same people going in when we get the vandalism. That's where most of the vandalism has been, is in the bathrooms themselves. The tree drop site, that camera that we're looking at is actually one that's going to be able to identify license plate, or you'd be able to zoom in on the license plate and actually see it. If you look at the Arlo one right now, even if they drive by, you get a real small window to capture that vehicle. We can see the vehicles with the RLs, but you know, black Chevy pickup will lack a bit. Is there any other bids? So this is the

company that we've got our system through. So we're just adding cameras to their system.

These are the ones that we have the cameras out at the lease water pool.

This wouldn't be a whole new system. Oh, gotcha. Yeah.

So we're basically, we're just expanding, optimizing our system.

Right. And the system out there is capable of 16 cameras through it. Okay. That's why we love it.

And it's got like cloud, is it all cloud-based?

How long does it store for, just out of curiosity? Dan or whatever.

Like I said, the way you talk, yeah, I think you can always and all be out there. It doesn't have to be 30 days like some does.

And then it won't always be out there. I think it's worth it. I was on the jury for that Tom and Park shooting. Oh, that one. There was no cameras. we're really limited in what we can do.

And we won't, I mean it won't catch all of the park though, it'll just catch.

It'll be pretty limited to certain areas of the park.

The ability to see who's coming in and out of the park to those driveways are really critical.

I like that, and this just may be deterrent for people if they know cameras are out there.

The one in the bathroom is the ultimate deterrent.

Right. Yeah.

All right.

We have action from the council on this request. Do we need approval?

Oh, yes, because this is not in budget, so this would be something we would take out of reserve because we didn't budget earlier, but I think it's kind of warranted the point of where we're at.

I would make a motion to approve the purchase of the new cameras at the quoted price of $29,790, as well as the ongoing annual fees. Second.

Any discussion?

Just reiterating the point that you suggest taking the funds out of the park maintenance budget. I think that's a good idea.

Yes, and like I put in my report, we did talk about this with the park board. They thought it was a good idea as well, and I put that in my report. But I'm not suggesting it taking out of their funds. That's for capital improvements. This, to me, is something we'll take out of the maintenance of the park. Yeah, that's where we would take it.

Okay. Anything else? Hearing none, we'll vote. Shelling. Yes. Horacek. Yes. Keel. Yes. Bowen. Yes. Madsen. Yes. Carlson.

Yes.

All right.

Can I ask Craig one thing quick? Sure. It just came to mind, and I meant to bring it up last year, but in the men's bathroom at the pool or the boys' bathroom, whatever, I would love to see a privacy thing right by the urinal, because you walk around the corner, Yeah, we can certainly. I think we need Adam. I mean, you know what I mean? We need a privacy thing there because it's just like you walk around the corner and you know what I'm talking about. It's right there. There's no privacy, so we'd love to get that. That's why I don't go to the pool. That's the reason why? We'd love to get that Adam. That's lame.

That's why he's in the pool. That's lame. Is that what you said?

That's what I said.

That's what the chlorine is for.

That's right. Keep it warm in here. I would like to, will you guys give me a few minutes for, I'd like to go into executive session for economic development. A motion to go into executive session. And legal.

And legal. And legal. Motion to go into executive session for economic development and legal. Second.

All in favor? Aye. All right. We have to represent. Yeah, yeah. Or you don't have to.

I think there's unfinished business yet that I'd like to see finished for a couple years. Michelle, are you really out? Not necessarily. Come on, girl. Then we should talk. Because one of us is going. Okay. Camera's going. Okay. Motion to adjourn. So moved.

And second.

Yes.

All in favor. I can't make a motion. I've been asking for a motion to do it. All right. All in favor, all aye. Aye. All opposed? That's kind of went off the rails.