County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

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Under normal circumstances, we would normally make a motion to approve the minutes for our last meeting, but they are not complete as of yet because the meeting was just on the 30th of June. So, Mr. President.

All right. Gary Poole.

Good morning. It's always good to say the pledge of allegiance.

You got all your fingers. You had a good July.

Good July 4th. 250 years of America. We're not doing too bad. It's always good to say the pledge and see us get past our stuff. But outside the nostalgia, let's get to work, because that's what we do. I have several items for signature. These are for contracts for bridge repairs, and two are for roadway reclassifications. We'll start with the roadway reclassifications. First, this is upgrading the roadways. This helps with our grant writing process. It's also assisting some of our neighbors with their grant writing process. We are wanting to upgrade the roadway reclassifications for this road.

I'll do these separately if y'all don't mind. I make a motion that we approve the reclassifications for County Road Frank W. Marks from County Road 600 West to end, making it from a local to a minor collector.

Second.

We have a motion and a second on the floor to reclassify roads. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

This is a second road reclassification. County Road 700 West from County Road 100 North to County Road 200 North from a local to a major collector. Second.

We have a motion and a second on the forward for road reclassification. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Okay, first contract I have is for a bridge 400 south over Brandywine Creek and not to exceed $187,600. I'll bring this forward so you can respond.

There's just one contract here, correct?

I have three of those. There's the same one Scott and I do, and not every time. They're pro forma.

I make a motion that we approve the LPA consulting contract as number 2501393. The project is Hancock County Bridge Preventative Maintenance Project on County Road 400 South over Brandywine Creek with the amount not to exceed $187,600.00.

Second.

Motion second on the floor to approve the contract for the bridge over Brandywine Creek on 400 South. Desk number 250-1393. And price not to exceed $187,600. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

The next contract is for bridge 75, 300 West over Little Sugar Creek.

Go ahead.

I make a motion that we approve the LPA consulting contract between Hancock County, Indiana and USI Consultants, Inc., DES number 2501391. The project is Hancock County Bridge 75 Rehabilitation, County Road 300 West over Little Sugar Creek in the Greenfield District, P.E. The amount shall not exceed $175,700. Second.

Motion and second on the floor to approve contract DES number 2501391 and price not to exceed $175,700 as presented. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

As you're saying that, the next one is for Bridge 118, Fortville Pike over Sugar Creek.

Last of the bridges for fixing up.

for this year, all you can manage. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the LPA consulting contract between Hancock County and VS Engineering, DES number 2501390. The project is PE design services associated with the rehabilitation of bridge number 118 on Fortville Pike over Sugar Creek in Hancock County, Indiana. The amount of this contract shall not exceed $208,000. Second.

We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve consulting, LPA consulting with V.S. Engineering and Hancock County Commissioners. Desk number 2501390. And a price not to exceed $208,000 as presented. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Oh, I didn't see you guys out there either.

I usually don't look at the Facebook, but I noticed someone was complaining about us denying Pinsey Trail to the east. We have not denied Pinsey Trail to the east. If a group wants to buy the land and build a trail there, then they can go ahead. We just, we... We got a lot of projects going on. We're not going to build it for them. But yeah, if somebody wants to secure the land and build a trail, how about it?

Hancock County School Drive. There's a drive there for Steinmeier Road. The superintendent there wants us to hold on that for a minute, so we are holding on it.

We'll hold until next year. That's something we agreed to in the right-of-way purchase, but we'll honor her desire there to wait on it for a minute, and we'll build it next year if she decides she still wants it. I added this to the thing, so you might want to write this down. I didn't add it to the handout, but... We need a surplus trailer for Zulu 1 Uniform Alpha 1825 at Sierra Sierra 004723. Or you can just read it from the thing. It got hit. It's in the insurance. It got hit by one of the contractors. It bent the frame. I'm not comfortable with my guys hauling stuff on it out there on the road. Okay.

So we're going to surplus it?

We're going to surplus it, and we're just buying a new one, and then we'll let the insurance sort it out. It's not terribly expensive.

Your insurance is covering it, I'm sure.

I like my loads to be secure, and I like the carrying apparatus to be whole. Anytime it's bent the frame, I'm not comfortable moving loads like that around the county. So we're just going to, until the insurance figures it out, we're just going to get a new trailer and get that taken care of. But she'll bring that back, and we'll revisit that when she brings back the title. Economic development, there's a lot going on. Keep up to date on that as things are happening. There's a lot going on. I think Mr. Shelby and some of the council are interested in some of it too, so keep them informed as you can. There's no NDAs or anything, so talk to them as much as you want. Jack and Sons Thursday. So I sent that out. Anne and I are doing something with ACEC. Now, we're not actually signing anything out of it, but they've been part of the community for a long time. It might be good for some of the bosses to be there. I know Mr. Shelby's family has been involved with them for a while, the Dorseys. And I sent an invitation to Gary. I responded. Excellent. So if you're available, swing by there. You won't be doing much. It's a typical right-of-way buy. There's not like a closing like you do a house or anything. There's papers. They're going to sign things. And then I'm going to file with Debra to be paid. Three weeks later, it'll pay. Then we'll take that check. And then we'll transfer the property then. But it'll be nice to have kind of a formalizing for Jack there. It's the end of his career there. Yeah. What time and where? 11 o'clock at Jack and Sons. I invited Mr. Titus as well, so if he's feeling up to it, he might be there.

I don't think we can all three.

Um, El Nino, it has been an El Nino year. Everybody's probably noticed it's been hotter than Satan's office and it's raining buckets and buckets. So that's what an El Nino does, but be patient because the winter will be easy with an El Nino. So we'll get through a very wet, intense storm summer. And then it hasn't, it's washed out some of our construction, but not too bad. Everybody's suffering through it. Um, But the winter will be drier and warmer, so hopefully we'll get it on that end of it. But we're getting through it. It hasn't interrupted our construction too much. We've had some construction interruption, but we're driving along. Other than the guys are sweating a lot. I think everybody's a little thinner. The automated mower, they're going to try to E911 soon. Some of that will help Corey with some of his stuff. I don't think it's going to relieve all his pressure, but it'll at least take some of the mowing off of him.

It's working well, though, at your office, right?

It is working well. I'm not sure if it could survive. So it's a construction yard, so it's about as rough as it can get. It's got hills. It's got rocks. It's got everything. We're beating the crap out of the mower. It looks like it's working hard, so we'll see how long it can live. It's like the Mars rover. You plan for it living so long, but we'll see how it goes.

Okay.

I'm working with the Cultural Resource Office and State Historic Preservation Office. So this has been a pet project of mine. The very contracts you sign probably have about $130,000 of environmental stuff in them. These are for bridge deck replacements. And a lot of that has to do with cultural resources, which I'm struggling to understand how Section 106, the laws around it, dictate that. And they don't. I've read through the laws. There's a lot of super regulatory policy. So we talked about that in our meeting here. We want to do what elected people said is the laws. And we want to minimize the amount of things we put on top of that because we're not elected. And I believe there's a great deal of additional policies above and beyond what the law was passed or intended to do, which has created a great deal of inefficiency within our environmental process. That inefficiency costs us time, so the public doesn't get to use our projects on time, which has injured citizens because the project wasn't built on time, water, soil, and safety, or just costs so much money that we can't do other projects because we're spending money on things that I don't believe are any benefit to the public or community. or any intent to the law. So I'm working with Mr. Johnson, Jim Johnson. I'm going to work with Senator Young and Mr. Lawson and State Senator Kreider and see if I can hopefully encourage those departments to curtail some of their super regulatory policies. They're good people, but they're not out here on the projects and they're not the pointy end of the stick. And I don't think they realize the impacts of some of these. They're afraid they're going to be sued. Um, they've never been, they have not, I haven't seen a lawsuit. I've searched through that. They haven't been, and all right, if we haven't been sued in 30 years of doing this, then maybe we're being too conservative. They're adding properties that historic that really are no historic value to the citizens of the County. Um, they put them on a, but there's a potential registry, right? And if we're putting things that are potentially historic that don't meet the criteria for the historic registry, then they're not really potentially. And the fact that all the ones we've added potentially historic, I can't find one that's ever moved the historic is pretty demonstrative. That they're not meeting the criteria that we're being overly conservative with. If none have moved onto the list and we haven't been sued in 30 years, we're being too conservative. And it's not free. That costs a lot of money and time. So I might need a political lift on there.

And the criteria is just set in their policy, not in Indiana code, correct?

It's not in federal or Indiana code. It's not in the law. For instance, just adding anyone who wants to be a consultant party to the environmental document. Some homeowner is not a scientist. They have public hearings and stuff for that, but adding them in because they want to be on, it's wasting their time and everyone else's time.

Well, in light of government efficiencies, it seems like the state has taken on. It probably makes sense to make it more efficient and effective to review that policy and say, is it doing what you want it to do?

I agree. When Ms. Scheidler and I started, I won't say how long ago Ms. Scheidler started working as an engineer, but I started over 20 years ago. A categorical exclusion document was a simple document that met its, a common person could do it. Now it requires doctorates and all these things, which costs tens of thousands of dollars. Anyway, we've got better things to spend tax money on. Speed study in Charlotte, haven't got the data back on that, but you know how that goes. Ryan, did we get the sensor out there yet? What's going on today?

I wanted to wait until the fourth just to keep the shenanigans down.

Fair enough. The land, water, and conservation grant that Miriam is suggesting, we're not very competitive for it, so we're going to transition to a Harrison Trust. Miriam will be working on that for a better match. She'll solicit the appraisals when the time comes, so just be ready for that. Greener South Bridge west of New Powell. It's open, so it is open. It's fantastic, and people are using it. It's all done? Yes. So don't speed over it.

No complaints.

Well, there's complaints of speeding. Every time we make a new road or a new bridge, people complain of speeding everywhere. The road's either too rough, and people complain about the roughness, or it's too smooth, and they're speeding. But it's okay. Microsurface and chip seal will continue for about 1.5 months. Our most favorite projects for the public. I understand that they are not as aesthetically pleasing as a lot. They do keep the potholes away, and we have a budget, so... Think the microsurface is a good fit for the neighborhood. I'd rather you can always tell the public we would rather be paving to But they may have noticed in the world that petroleum products are incredibly expensive, so we just can't afford to pave everything Indianapolis tries, but then they pave one road out of a hundred every year and roads don't last a hundred years And you can see where that ends LMDD money is received so I got from Deborah's office. I got that I think that's good for the state. It's a little bad for us. It reduces our grant pool, but we'll get that money steadily. I don't have to apply for it. That'll come in. But for Shelby, Rush, all those counties, they probably need something like that. They were never competitive for grants, so that helps them. Old jail and prosecutor's office, the AAR was complete. We talked about that yesterday, and we've signed the new appraisal on the prosecutor's office, and then everything in the old jail, we're just going to do maintenance projects in there. You're going to see this tomorrow, but just because I work for you guys, this is what our budget looks like. We are on track. You might notice the yellow and MVH, that's mainly because of the gas tax curtailment. You see, I've used my working capital to cover that hit. So it's reduced down to about $90,000 of work capital by the end of the year. So we'll decide probably at the end of this year if we're going to try to rebuild that work capital back up.

Are we going to take a hit, really? I mean, the governor said the other day that he's going to reimburse all the counties.

I heard what he said, but you know me until it's in the bank account.

I know Tyler sent an email out stating the same thing.

Hopefully, that's why I haven't changed any plans. But until it's in the bank account, I don't count the money. Understood. So I don't count it until it's in there. Otherwise, everything else is on schedule and on track. We're doing okay. Everything's bridge. The state average on bridge projects is 13%. posted are closed. We're at two something percent. And one of those closed bridges is only closed for like three days, but it was closed when they were doing the check. So that's actually more like 1.2%. So we're doing good on bridges. Road, we're at a pacer around seven, 6.9. We dropped a bit. The state average is about six. So we're still a whole point ahead pacer rating wise, which when I drive around, I don't see a lot of potholes and stuff. So we're doing our job good there. So And our efficiency is doing pretty good, too. So we're doing our roads are better than almost everybody.

Hamilton County, I think, beat us by a little bit. And our bridges are better than almost everybody except Hamilton County.

They just have a lot of money they can throw at things. So, I mean, I'm happy with that. We do have things we're worried about, and we do have some funding challenges coming in the future.

But I think we're driving along. But that's what you're buying.

what specifically you're buying. Next year you'll have 12 active capital projects, 15 miles of paving, 76 miles of chip seal, 74 miles of crack ceiling and micro ceiling, 15 culverts and three bridges. I did that wrong, but you just signed off on those there. 130 miles of striping, signing, lights, radar signs. We're buying a bunch of radar signs coming up. We'll find out about that tomorrow. Purchased right away for three projects. We're trying to keep pay score around seven. Our accidents are, I didn't even mention accidents. Our accidents are still really low. That's good. We're having pedestrians and motorcyclists as the ones we've had troubles with, but they're there. I'd like to get under, for the whole county, under 10 fatals per 100 million miles traveled. The state's around 20. I'd like to get us under 10. But that includes I-70 and the cities and stuff too. I think our peers are doing good too. Cities, towns are doing a good job. I'd like to get under 10 fatalities per 100 million miles traveled. We're at 11 now. I think it's doable. Some other places have been able to get down there. It's tough. The zero, some people say they want to get to zero. That's unrealistic. There's nothing, we're never going to get to zero. So let's be pragmatic, but we can, if we can get to like 50% of what like the national average is, I think that's pretty good.

So any of those crashes caused by poor roads or bridges?

No.

And my point is human error is the cause of these crashes. We strive for a zero fatal year. I think the County does a great job in providing excellent roads and bridges, human error that,

It's true. We try to adjust to help our humans, though, because I'm one of them, too. You'll notice our white edge line, which was invented by Americans, by the way. That's right. One of the best roadway safety things to run off road. The white edge line is invented by Americans. We were two 50. So we've increased that to six inches and change the glass content to help with the robots can see it. That's helped a lot. Um, so though our roads are fine, they meet all design criteria. We're still adding stuff to them to try to roundabouts just to take the human, take the penalty for a human error and try to reduce it. One was a young kid on a motorcycle. I mean, there's stuff like that. They're difficult. It's just unfortunate instances.

Making them as safe as we can to hopefully adjust for human errors.

But I think if we get under 10, I'd be very happy with that goal. Originally, when I first started, I just wanted to be under the average, which would be 20. I'm shooting for a little lower now.

That's good.

Keep up the good work.

Questions? Have your people stay cool and hydrate. Yes, we are. I worry about them.

We've got the sunblock out, too. You'll see the SPF 50s in here.

I make a motion that we approve the surplus of 18-foot utility trailer, year 2025. Last four digits of the VIN, 4723. Owners, Hancock County Commissioners.

Second.

Second to surplus trailer at the highway department 2025 model year at last four is 41 23 of the vehicle ID all those in favor say aye aye motion carries The poor trailer only got one year work I hate that It happens

It wasn't us. It was one of our contractors. So I think they'll be paying for it. But I hate to see things wasted.

But it was only $5,000. It could have been worse. It could have been $500,000. All right. Any questions?

All right. Thank you. Thank you, Gary.

Thank you. Make sure it's right before you leave. Make sure it's right, the signature's right. Right place and all that.

Okay.

Thank you. Ms. Connolly. She's not here? There she is.

Good morning. I sent, I think, all of you the MOU contract with TREX. I also sent it to Mr. Binky to look over. TREX is an income tax interception program ran through the state. So it would benefit probation. Actually, it would benefit the county. We could be a pilot program for the county where when someone owes probation user fees and have not paid it, whether they've absconded or they've been violated or they simply aren't paying fees, then the state can intercept their state income tax return. And so that would guarantee payment for the fees. User fees have not been raised probably in 20 years. And so collection is difficult. And it just takes care of just a very small portion of our budget. So this is one way for us to guarantee payment.

Should you update your fees? Should you update the fees since it's been 20 years?

Oh, the state hasn't given us an increase. Yeah, the state hasn't increased fees. Our fees are updated. So fees haven't been raised for probably 20 years. So it's relatively cheap to be on probation as an offender. So that hurts us, but this also is a way for us to recoup the money that we are not getting and then can also help reimburse.

Scott, have you? I did. It's fine. Okay.

Could I ask a question?

I believe the treasurer has an agreement with TREX as well. And I just wonder, I'm not 100% positive, but I know that she's discussed this before, so I didn't know if we do that, does that battle each other?

I was told that she did not.

She did not do it? Yes. Okay. So you've checked with her then?

Yes. Well, I didn't. My office did. But I was told that that did not happen. Okay. Thank you. And that was kind of the hiccup. We've been wanting to do this for a while. It made sense. Other counties are doing it. It's been very successful. In fact, they tell us that they send a letter out first, and typically what happens is the offender comes in and pays because they don't want their income tax intercepted. So it's been really helpful, more helpful than us, collecting the fees. But I can double check myself with the treasurer if you would feel better with that.

I know there's been a lot of conversation, so I don't. I was just asking Sarah, I said, can you look and make sure that we don't have something? She hasn't found anything. So I just, I think it is a great program. AIC talks about it all the time.

Yeah, and if we have success, the assessor's office can use it. The clerk can use it. So it would be very advantageous, I think, for the county.

So Janice, you wouldn't have a problem in coming back, let's say, a year later and say, hey, we've had success. Here is what this looks like.

I have absolutely no problem with that. And I'm Gail. There is a Janice.

I was thinking Janice Conley. I apologize. No, you're fine. Okay, fantastic.

So do we want to approve this with the stipulation that we make sure we don't already have it?

Does each department need one? I'm not clear on that. Is it just for the county?

I think it's for the county. It's the understanding that I have from TREX, and I've spoke with them. However, they are the ones that told me that I needed to get this, so I wonder if they know. They also have a copy of the MOU. I don't think they have one for Hancock County either. But I can double check if that would make you feel better.

I think it would make everybody feel better. That way we're not doubling down on something we've already got. Sure. Okay?

Sure. So shall I double check and then let someone know and then you sign?

You mean making a motion to allow me to sign? Yep. Okay.

I make a motion that we approve the Memorandum of Understanding and Agreement with the Association of Indiana Counties Tax Refund Exchange and Compliance System on this date, 7-7-26, and with the caveat that the President will sign off on the contract or the MOU once we have made all of the appropriate clarifications.

Second.

We have a motion on the floor to allow President Gary McDaniel to sign the MOU, the Memorandum of Understanding and Agreement Association of Indiana County's Tax Refund Exchange and Compliance Systems. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

I will go right upstairs and verify that.

I tried texting her, so I don't know, but thank you. It's a great program.

No, it really is. I think it'll be good for the county all around. We're happy to be the pilot program. Okay, thank you. Thanks.

Okay, we also have, no, that's Jeremy. John Milburn, is he in here? There he is, there he is.

Good morning. So I'm coming before you to ask for your blessing before I go to council regarding my two new job description updates. Essentially, I've had the same job description since this will be my 20th year. What we've done has actually considerably changed since I was initially hired. So I wanted to update my position from GIS coordinator, essentially eliminate the GIS coordinator position and transition that to GIS manager, and also We've had a GIS technician this entire time. I'd like to still retain that position, but also have a GIS specialist where I can transition my current GIS technician to that specialist position, I believe as Warren had given her abilities and skills.

Have you gone over this with Andrea?

Yes, I have. I worked with Kelly when she was at Nature to build the descriptions that I had, and Andrea reviewed those, and she was fine with them. Recommended I come to you and ask for your blessing before I go on to counsel. Yeah.

I think so.

I make a motion that we send this forward to the council with a favorable recommendation for the updated position descriptions and updated pay rates. Second.

We have a motion on the floor and a second to send the job descriptions, updated job descriptions, and pay for the coming year to council. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Thank you very much.

Thank you. Thanks, John. And thanks, Jessica, too. I don't think you heard me. Mr. Typen. He's not here. I don't see him. Okay. I don't see Mary. Kayla. That's Kayla. Bernie.

Bernie's here. There he is. What a winner.

Saved by Bernie once again. Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning. If you want to act on this, I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I got a quote from Nelson Alarm to do work at 233. It came in on Friday, I believe. So I wanted to get this before you before we can get started on it. Okay. It's only 1782.

That's kind of good compared to usual.

Your numbers are so shocking. Okay.

That's where it is. Okay.

Yes. We do. Okay. Oh, you can have that one and I'll go off this one. How about that?

That's the one we'll sign.

Make a motion that we approve quote number 10724, which is a sales, equipment sales agreement between Hancock County government and Nelson Alarm. With the amount not to exceed 1780 $1,782 and 50 cents that includes Keystone wall jacks data drop and dual keystone jack wall plates second

We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve the equipment sales agreement, quote number 10724, and an amount not to exceed $1,782.50. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Before you leave the podium, I have a request. So Dusty Wicker had sent us some information on a quote for wireless mics. And the new quote was for four mics at $12,294.55. Is that something your department has in its offers currently? We don't have that budget at all.

Okay. This would be something actually we could probably move some things around.

now we could do it and put some other things off so is that something that was approved under your uh bond amount no it's not all additional this is all additional yeah

I mean, personally, I think we ought to have him move some things around within his budget, but I think we wouldn't have a problem either asking for that from the council, you know, additionally. So I don't think you're going to have a problem recouping that kind of money in the end.

You want to go ahead with it, I see. Yes.

I think the more we start to use this room for different events and the more public access, you know, really needs to become more transparent. People really do need to be able to hear people. Effectively online when they're home that that's really going to be a problem right well. I'll get on that. We'll get it done Thank you.

I should I think I'll make a motion that we send this forward have Bernie go forward with County Council Okay, and request the reimbursement of those funds from second

We have a motion and a second to advise Bernie Harris to take his quote from New Mike's for our conference or our court here to counsel and get reimbursement for that.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Now we got Mr. Typen. You're a busy man. Well, we've started moving a little bit quicker, I think.

Good for you. That's awesome. So thanks for having me today.

No problem.

So we're here or I'm here on behalf of my office to present and request approval for our telework policy that we've come up with. Obviously we've kind of worked something in the form over the past four and a half years since there was nothing really in the policy manual regarding that since Andrea's taken over. So we put this together based on some other what we've been doing and other stuff we talked to some individuals about. Then we went and met with Andrea, ran it past her a few times and met with her in person to see her thoughts on how it went. We took some of her pointers, we edited what we had, and that's what you have in front of you. You should have gotten copies of this. So I wanted to see if you had any questions, thoughts, concerns. Well, I'm glad that you actually worked with Andrea for this because that's what she's there for. Well, you know, we took a hint from I know Tabitha was in front of you and you guys had some questions about that. So we're like, aha, you know, because we might not have, but it made sense. So since she's that.

Do you guys have a problem with it?

I don't have any.

Scott, did you have any problem with it? No. Okay.

I make a motion that we approve the updated Hancock County Public Defender's Office telework part. Telework part.

Second.

We have a motion and second on the floor to approve the Hancock County Public Defender's Office telework policy as presented. All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye. Motion carries. All right. Thank you all. I hope tomorrow afternoon goes smoothly. Yeah. Take care.

Good luck.

Let me see. Kayla Brooks.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I'm here today to request the use of the 2018 Ford Fusion that is already owned by the county and I believe hasn't been claimed by a department.

True.

For planning department use.

How often do you need it? Is it a full-time deal or?

I'd like to have it full-time for code enforcement activities as well as the occasional trip to a meeting, but mostly for dentists to use for code enforcement.

Okay. Do you guys have a problem with that?

Not at all.

Ma'am?

Question? So it'll be parked here on a daily basis? Absolutely. And it'll be in the back row. Thank you.

Can we have a motion? Yes.

I make a motion that we approve the Ford Focus vehicle to be used by the planning department.

Isn't that a Ford Fusion?

Ford Fusion. What did I say?

Focus.

Oh, Ford Fusion. That's a lot smaller. Second.

We have a motion and a second to approve the use of the Ford Fusion 2025 or no?

2018.

2018 that we have as an extra vehicle that we've not allowed anyone to use at this point in time. So for the planning department, for code enforcement and meeting attendance. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Thank you. Can I ask another question? Do you have a line in your budget for fuel?

I have a mileage line. I think the correct way is to convert that to a maintenance or fuel line. I've been budgeting $1,896 every year. That might be a little shy, but we can see where we go with that over the course of the year. Okay.

So will you guys also be... Supplying the insurance for that, for the department, or how does that work?

That's county. Okay, all right. Yeah, just the maintenance and that type of thing. We probably just need to kind of hone that down for the departments across, but the majority of them have that in their own budgets, and then you guys insure that vehicle.

You might want to work with Deb on that a little bit. That way it makes sure everything's taken care of.

I think Sarah kind of, did you go over all of that yet? I don't. Okay.

I'm not aware of. They'll help. They've been very helpful so far with this.

Okay. Thank you.

We own it. It's insured at this time.

Yes, absolutely.

Ms. Serbach. Good morning.

Good morning. How are you guys?

Just fine.

You? Good.

Good. I am here for the Sheriff Support Service Building just to give you guys a quick update. I did send Sarah a packet late last night. I printed it out.

Okay, I'll pass these up.

More importantly with this packet, that shows where we're at. Gary, I know you were at our OAC meeting.

Yep.

And I believe we went to council for the appropriation of the dollars in order to set up payment?

They had already approved what line it's coming from and all that kind of stuff. Okay, all right. So it should be taken care of.

Okay, all right. But really what today I wanted to show you guys was the updated schedule, kind of highlighting where we've been. January, we finished the design. February, we signed the GMP. which is the guaranteed maximum price for construction. Permits were finalized in June, end of June, so therefore we really just got started here early July. They are currently right now doing foundations and underground utilities. The building pad is already built with the earthwork that was left on site from the jail, so we were good stewards of utilizing the soil that was out there. I think things are going to rapidly go quickly. We have everything procured and onsite for the construction outside of the mechanical heating and cooling units. Cash flow projection is what I really wanted to talk to you guys about, especially you, Deb. We're going to probably be clipping off about $700,000 a month in the next six months. So I just want to make sure that cash flow is there and you know that those invoices are coming through. we had a big one this time just because of all the procured material and some of the upfront cost and we approved that last week yeah so but as we move i think they're going to quickly get going and they're going to probably try to capture as much as the good weather we get getting closed by october november and then finish out at the end of the year

And you're going to give me the okay that that work is done when I get that invoice? Yes.

So what I'll do is I get it. I review it. I approve it for Brad, the sheriff's approval. And then once I get his approval, then I forward it on to you, Deb.

It's been a good system.

Okay. If it's been working for you, I'm good with it. Would the commissioners like to be on those or just continue to work with DEB since the money's... Through DEB's office. Okay. All right. The schedule is pretty self-explanatory. You can kind of follow over to the right on the Gantt chart where July is and kind of see what's been going on. We did put in there about $75,000 for the design team to do construction administration work and a portion of that is them also doing a monthly construction inspection. I'm hoping to get them to go out and review that the work is being done per their design intent. So hopefully once we start getting those reports, I'll be able to funnel those to you folks in email.

Okay. And it looks like it's scheduled to potentially be done by the end of the year.

We're going to give Brad two weeks in the building potentially. We wanted more, but yeah, no, it's been great working over there. Well, I thank you for your time. If you have any questions, are we good? Nope.

Thanks for the update. Thanks, Mary. Thank you. Thank you for always reaching out and checking in with me. I appreciate that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I'm there. I know. Thank you.

Ms. Connolly?

There is not an MOU sign, but the treasurer would like to do a little more research. She's not sure that she would like to be the

Could you step to the mic? I'm sorry. Dusty's back there.

Okay, so the treasurer would like to do a little more research on Trex. There is not an MOU signed. However, she would like to do a little more research on what that would require of her, and she's not sure that she's on board with that.

But it wouldn't prevent you from doing that, right? The money would basically be cleared through her.

Because she's the treasurer? Yes.

Yeah. So do we wait to give it a week or what? When she said she'd have her...

She didn't, but I told her there was no urgency because the tax season is basically over for now. It would be more for 2027. And she said she would get back with me. So would you like for me to email one of you when I know what she would like? Email Sarah. Okay, Sarah.

Because she gets all that stuff to us. I will do that. And I will sign off on it.

And I'll be having a meeting with AIC soon, so I'll bring that up as well. And I did not mean to crimp your plans, but I know that we've been talking trucks, so I just thought I'd bring that up. But I think since it does filter through her.

It will filter through her. It would be a great thing for the county, not only for probation, for assessor's office, for unpaid, I mean, it's just a great way of- Sounds like a good deal. It really does. A guarantee way of collecting. But I respect her opinion, and so she's not sure she's on board with this.

Okay.

So I just, we'll wait and see. And do some follow-up.

Yeah.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Motion to approve claims and payroll.

Second.

Motion on the floor to approve claims and payroll. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Auditor.

So we've got your disbursement that we had a little bit of a typo, so it's been corrected. And Scott brought in these contractor service agreements.

It's for the demolition of the house.

Yeah We just need to sign the contract that way he can get it taken care of I make a motion that we approve the contractor service agreement between Hancock County building department and Denny excavating Inc and to demolish a house per spec sheet in the amount of $21,826 and asbestos remediation $9,000. Second.

There is a motion and a second on the floor to approve the demolition and the expenses thereof and also asbestos remediation. between Hancock County and Denny Escavating. The house demolition, B21-826, and asbestos remedia is $9,000 total, $29,826. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Sign one of these. One more page. Anything else? Yep.

Auditor? So we've got the updated total for the disbursement of $196,764.68. That's for the amplifier. And we've got the money and all that kind of stuff. Okay. We are, and we are going to be doing, because we are like really, really close. We're going to be double checking on, um, any interest that we've earned and also any money that needs to be reimbursed that, that we made some amplify purchases on. So we'll be digging into that and we'll have a final tool at your next, uh, meeting. Thank you.

Can we, do we go ahead and sign the approval then disbursement pending the outcome of, uh.

Yes, please. And do you want to approve the total to be paid of $343,619 or the Schedule A of $196,764? I don't have all of that. That's what we're paying right now until we reevaluate that total. Okay. I make a motion that we approve the affidavit for construction fund disbursement request number 29, the Hancock County Redevelopment Authority. This is for Amplify. And the total due is $343,619. But until we have processed all the dollars and cents, the amount that we'll be paid on Schedule A as $196,764.68. Second. There is a motion and a second on the floor to approve affidavit for construction fund disbursement request number 29 in the amount of $196,764.68.

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

And I do not have any other business commissioners all right.

Thank you.

We have a Oh, yeah sign right there I

These are not us?

Mm-hmm. Yes, that's all three of us.

Okay. You'll find him first.

We have two permission for out-of-state travel for Captains Tim Sassinas and Lieutenant Donnie Munden, the Hancock County Sheriff's Department. They will be attending a computer voice stress analyzer. examination recertification in Nashville, Tennessee in an amount that will not go over $2,639.72. Second. Is that what I meant?

Ones for the conference and ones for computer analyzer examiner recertification.

We're just doing this one right now.

Oh.

Okay.

Okay.

You have a motion and a second.

We have a motion and a second to approve Captain Tim Sassinas and Lieutenant Donnie Munden to attend a computer voice stress analyzer examiner recertification in Nashville, Tennessee. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. I didn't catch that.

We also have permission to travel out of state and travel expenses for Deputy Jacob Lewis. This will be paid out of the training and travel commissary account. He is attending National Tactical Officers Association Conference in Nashville, Tennessee with an amount not to exceed $1,734.89. Second.

We have a motion and a second on the floor to approve Deputy Jacob Lewis' travel request to the National Tactical Officers Association Conference in Nashville, Tennessee. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.

Let's go ahead and ratify the FSG, please Make a motion that we ratify The agreement with Hancock regional sewer and district SRF process and the bond issue. Did I do that correctly?

Second. Yeah. Professionally, yeah, professional services.

Because they have to oversee it. And first phase will not exceed $7,500. The second phase will not exceed $27,500. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. and I've already signed that. There's that. Miriam Rollis, we have a proclamation here. You guys wanna come down here and do this? Or do we do it?

We can, you can read it from up here.

Okay, I'll read it from here and then we'll come down and take a picture, okay. And good morning to you also. We have a proclamation from the Hancock County Commissioners. Proclamation designation of July as Park and Recreation Month. Whereas parks and recreation is an integral part of communities throughout the country, including Hancock County, Indiana. And whereas parks and recreation promotes health and wellness, improving the physical and mental health to people who live near parks, and whereas parks and recreation promotes time spent in nature, which positively impacts the mental health by increasing cognitive performance and well-being, and alleviating illnesses such as depression, attention deficit disorders, and Alzheimer's. And whereas parks and recreation encourages physical activity by providing space for popular sports, hiking trails, and swimming pools, and many other activities designed to promote active lifestyles. Whereas parks and recreation is a leading provider of healthy meals, nutritional services, and education, and whereas the park and recreation programming and education activities such as out-of-school time programming, youth sports, and environmental education are critical to childhood development. And whereas parks and recreation increases a community's economic prosperity through increased property values, expansion of the local tax base, increased tourism, the attraction and retention of businesses, and crime reduction. Parks and recreation is fundamental to the environment, well-being of our community, and whereas parks and recreation is essential and adaptable infrastructure that makes our communities resilient in the face of natural disasters and climate change. And whereas our parks and recreation areas ensure for ecological beauty of our community and provide a place for children and adults to connect with nature and recreate, outdoors and whereas the U.S. House of Representatives has designated July as Parks and Recreation Month and whereas the Hancock County recognizes the benefit derived from Parks and Recreation Resources. Now therefore be it resolved by Hancock County government that July is recognized as Park and Recreation Month in the County of Hancock County.

Thank you very much for your support.

Thank you for all you do with the parks board, the parks things, the grants, chasing them down. We are glad to have you in that position to do that work.

It takes a village, so happy to do it.

Oh. This is the official one. This is not the official. Oh, okay. This one. Okay, here you go. Animal control.

That was just...

a lot for the yep yep doing it up here or down there

Uh, I didn't in there.

What are we looking for?

The original to sign off on.

I did not see that. If you have an original one, then I'll sign it. We've already signed it. We can all sign it again. Okay. I think that's it, guys.

Bring it on. Was it in the packet?

Deborah, Deborah, have them come back, please.

Oh.

Almost signed your spot. Do you guys have anything else? Yes, ma'am.

I just had a conversation with Jane in regard to the tracks. She had looked into this for Josh before, and there's a lot involving accounts, bank accounts, things that they would have to do in their office to track that. So she said that she'd be happy to meet with me because then we would have to deal with it in my office as well. But we'll circle back and have an update for you at the next meeting if you're good with that.

Do we have any public comment? Well, seeing none.

Motion to adjourn.

Motion and second on the floor to adjourn. All in favor say aye.