Commission on Aging - Regular Meeting

So I don't know we pull off on the adoption of the medicine till we get a few more people here. Any old business, I don't see any listed. And the new business, Victor, leave update. Yes.

And so to our task force, first and foremost, good afternoon. I wanna make sure that we are as prompt as possible in going through this information. I know that there are a lot of transitions that need to take place at 05:00, and so we will work diligently to try to get information out, and in front of you. Please note that, from accounting perspective, we do want to acknowledge a h I HMIS lead update. We also wanna go into a conversation around winter shelter and also the light flag.

You want to spend some time talking about our NC five zero four strategic plan and then also alignment, and then we'll talk about the next meeting and expectations. As it relates to the HMIS lead update, please note the department pending homelessness back in July made a recommendation to move forward to exit that role effective October 1 after some deliberation and conversation. Please note that the COC board, moved forward with their HMIS data committee. They issued an RFP as it relates to call for letters of interest on October 13 with a due date of the August 20. We then moved forward as a county with submitting a letter of interest.

And, also, please note that COC membership approved a recommendation on the eleventh to move forward with the county, being the HMIS lead. And so we are currently working, with doctor Palmer as well as the COC and that MOU to move forward. Please note that it is typically best practice for a lead agency to have the HMIS lead, which the responsibility of the data management system, to support access to that system for your partners among among addressing homelessness to actually enter data. And so really excited about entering into this role, and this will have board or county commissioner approval on the October 2, before their review and also approve. And so what I wanna do is to move into winter shelter and white flag plans, for 2025, 2026.

And so the first city that we have up is High Point. Is Greg online?

Hi. I'm Victor.

So, Greg, you are online until the door is yours, sir.

So our update is we have three agencies that, serve the population here, Salvation Army, Open Door Ministries, and West End Ministries. All three are participating in winter shelter. Salvation Army, as you see there, begins operations on November 1, and Open Door Ministries in West End begin their operations on November 30. The three are not participating in white flag this year. They will accept those that where they have capacity.

And once they reach capacity, regardless of the temperature, then they have to turn folks away. In the past, we've urged them to try to adopt the same temperature, requirements, and there's been, some agreement on that. But this year, there's no white flag participants. And we do have a slide, I think, at the end that shows when winter shelter ends, so we'll show that toward the end of the presentation.

Greg, how many rooms are we looking at having in the in those kind of?

So what I would offer is we'll get you the total number per site, and we'll we can email that out, but I don't have the total right before me at the moment.

And the reasoning why they don't want you to participate in the white flag?

They're at capacity. That it's just they don't have the beds. So if you I think their their thought is if it's if it's, indicated that they have capacity, then then there are folks that are not that are turned away, and they're not able to assist them. We don't necessarily take that same position, but the agencies have their own operating policies.

Mister Chair?

Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead.

With that change that's and, in fact, is it a net loss, a net gain, or is it flat as far as the number of

beds being offered?

It's flat. There's no change.

And we're lucky everybody on the same accord as it relates to everybody's recognizing the white flag. Knowing that that is cool is nice.

Greg, what about funding for these high point organizations, Open Doors and West End Ministries? Do they have sufficient funding to operate these winter shelters?

There's probably a different answer for each of the three. For for some of the agencies, it's just basically space. They certainly could use additional funding for all their operations, but in most cases, it's space capacity.

Well, specifically, can you talk about Wistian Ministries?

That one might might have some additional space. If they were provided funding, we we can certainly engage in that conversation with them. They have a a pretty good sized campus.

Yeah. Because I think that they were talking about, more for females, and extending the number of people that they served in the overnight and providing meals and those sorts of things to them during the day as well. And I I don't think that they have sufficient funding to operate in the manner that they are wanting or proposing to operate.

We can certainly have some conversation with them and explore that.

I just wanted to add, when I was recently at, West End, they do have an expansion planned because they do own another building on their campus that they will be able to expand into. I think they're waiting out the end of the previous, lease in order to take that over, but then they would need additional funding to build it out. So that is on the horizon and is in their plans.

It's my only day in long time. This is

I believe it is in 2026, but I don't think it I don't know if it's towards January or later than that. And they they do take in additional people. They do have some spaces that they can utilize, but they have to break them down for some of the other services. So they're not able to offer daytime shelter due to some of

the other activities they host on their campus. Yeah. I mean, not to contradict, but

I do believe that they are trying to expand and offer more services effective December 1. And they they have submitted a request to the county for some additional dollars. I know that the the city did give them some, but they did cut their funding stream looking at city people. I think y'all did cut the CBO dollars that y'all gave them, so they are are needing additional dollars to operate, overnight facilities with hygiene, providing hygiene supplies and meals and access during the day as well. So I know that that's a proposal for December 1 this year through March. So it's three organizations you're talking about? West End. I'm talking specifically about West End. Two

more. That's what you're talking about.

So are we given any funds, listed to any of these three owners, ma'am?

So you have $1,000,000 allocated, out of your task force funds for, open door ministry as it relates to the homeless shelter or day day shelter efforts that they have. And so that is pending based on a move forward plan. With West End Ministries, there has been conversations as it relates to a request. I need to secure and review that formal document, but there has been conversations as it relates to interest in that. At this point in time, that is all that I can recall in regards to Not that I can recall at this point. So

Alright. Well, we might have we'd have some conversations with them. If they're gonna be receiving county dollars, then we'd have to make sure that they, go and supply what we don't need and not just say they're not gonna do it because they might not have room. We need to have we need sit down and talk about it. We're gonna be such a provider of funds. Awesome.

And so what I'm what I'm hearing, chairman, and also from the task force is to have a conversation with, Greg, with the city of High Point as well as doctor Palmer from the COC to talk about some capacity building for white flag and winter sheltering specifically in High Point and follow-up on the reference leads, as it relates to West End Ministries and then those receiving funding.

With Brad, you're gonna include Brad in the constitution at West End Ministries. Yes.

Thank you. I would hope that we would have that meeting, senior management meeting. We would have actions that they might agree to, by next week. Understood.

And so to bring back recommendations for capacity building next week.

Alright. Anything else on that, Greg, or the team you wanted to have the council meeting?

That is all. We'll follow-up with an email.

Okay. Thank you. Alright. Thank you. Alright.

Now we have the city of Greensboro to talk about their winter and white flag efforts.

Thank you, mister county manager. First, I wanna say thank you to our community safety director, Ladisha McNeil, and Erin Williams and her office for putting this plan together. They've done a fantastic job. This is the RFP schedule that they put together. It was a virtual workshop on Monday, August 25 to talk about what our plan was going to be. We had three to four interested vendors attend that meeting. Ultimately, we only had one vendor actually apply for either piece of the of the RFP. But as you can see, we're we're through the RFP evaluation period, and then our contract start date is gonna be November 1 for both winter emergency sheltering and white flag. Who has the clicker? Thank you.

So our Norway project, these are our pallet homes. They're gonna go back to the northern part November 1 through March 21. We are gonna have between the pallet homes and RVs that are gonna be out there, we're gonna be able to house a 125 people at that location. What the RFP was for was for the supportive services, I. The case management.

The IRC applied. It was the only person to apply or the only vendor to apply, as I stated earlier. We have two case managers during business hours and then twenty four seven staffing to provide regular checks. One of the reasons we went to this model, some of the feedback that we heard from the churches that we used last year is that they didn't like having to sort of put people out during the day if they didn't have a place to go, if they didn't have a job or or something else to go to. And they also, felt like the case management was spread a little too thin because it was spread across four different locations. So community safety listened to that feedback, looked at costs, that sort of thing, and then this is the model that, that we've prepared for this year. So I'm really excited about this.

We're looking at a 100 looking at a 125, and we got two case managers, doing the bidding's house, and then I would assume half hours.

We'll have community safety staff from that department. Not caseworkers. Not after hours. And

you think two caseworkers is sufficient, or that's all you can come up with?

We think that's sufficient.

Mr. Jerry, how

many case managers did we have last year?

So the Greensboro Urban Ministry did did this last year, and I honestly I don't know how many case managers they had last year. Do either of you know? One. They had one.

So a 100% up?

Yeah. I only had one, and that was spread across again four locations. Right.

And then also I know that we're housing more at the Pomona Park this year, but we also had last year, we had the churches. Did we compare the two numbers? How do the numbers stack up? One twenty five compared to How many?

We are housing more people, and we're spending 200,000 less dollars. And

we also had only one vendor to to submit an RFP. Is there a reason why the other three didn't? I mean, was there anything that was material as to why they didn't?

I only heard from one of the vendors, and he he just said that his organization couldn't status this model, and it didn't say anything else other than that.

Let me just point out that while it says it's 180,000 for supportive services, it costs us 527,000 to run this program. That's correct.

So all told, and I was gonna get

to that. Just for the doorway project.

Yes. So we're gonna spend our program is $627,000 for for this winter between White Flag and, Pomona. So, yes, the $1.80 is for the IRC to have case management. We still have to rent the RVs at a substantial cost. It's well over $200,000, bathrooms, all that sort of thing. Moving the pallet homes themselves is actually a pretty expensive endeavor as well. And as you know, because of the commissioner of insurance, we can only leave them up for six months, and then we have to move them.

So then all all in turnkey were at $5.50 or so, you say?

627,000.

607. Mhmm.

For the for this winter is what what we budgeted. We spent 827,000 last year, which is not sustainable.

Do we have security? I I see staffing twenty four seven. Do we have security?

The IRC is currently using their security staff, and they'll plan to do that again this year. So it's not a contracted security provider.

And that'll be twenty four seven on-site?

Or

Yes, sir.

Anything else here? No. Cheers. The RV house, some of those are the bathrooms.

The RVs can actually it's almost like a bunch of bunk beds sort of, but it's think each one can house 14 people. Mhmm. They're very nice.

And they they have the, I guess, the bathroom showers that type of thing that's going be out there also.

Yes, sir. The only the other thing I'll mention is part of the community safety department is our Be Heart team, and so obviously they would be there as a resource if needed as well.

Chair, are we also providing the bus passes or the or the transportation?

So what we've done in the past wasn't always bus passes. Sometimes, particularly for for white flag, if a police officer were to see somebody out in the pool, they would offer them a ride. So we we do that various different ways. I know we did offer some transportation for staff of the Greensboro ministry to get to the churches at times. So it just it depends on what the need is, and we try to Is

there a a a plan b, kind of an enhancement plan in case it's a very bad winter and we have more than a 125 that we want to take care of. Is there another plan? Are those churches still on hold? Are they available to us or other facilities?

I think the churches certainly would would be willing to help again. We're gonna try this model from the feedback that we've gotten in the past. But certainly in an emergency, we would not be afraid to reach out to a church and say, hey. We need your help.

Would the IRC be available for additional

white flag? I'm getting to that next.

Okay. I'm sorry. I just pulled the car before the horse. No way. No problem.

Next slide, if you don't mind. So white flag. The IRC is

the only one that put

in an application for that. It's a $100,000 figure. They have to be able to, house up to house a 100 people or more for white flag. This program will run December 1 through March 31. Of course, that's triggered when overnight temperatures is 32 degrees or below for at least two hours. The IRC was the only one to submit, as I said, for that RFP, and and so they will be the program we'll be using.

And that will be housed at the IRC? Yes.

Do we have security there on that time?

In the past, what we've done is have police check by, and then, of course, the IRC does have their own security as well.

Yeah. We worked out that situation with our emergency services. They need to go there so they need it when they need it.

Yeah. So that has been worked out, and so we will continue to revisit it based on how many participants are in place. But definitely based on this model, we don't expect that level of of of crowd. And so with that being said, EMS will be able to get in, get out, but that matter did get resolved.

Go ahead.

No problem. I believe the next slide is back to High Point. I was it's a wrap up slide. So the High Point's at the top. Greensboro is at the bottom. Just the Dory Project, white flag. I did not mention this. Adults and families can use

So the the three that we have, Salvation Army is for families. Open Door Ministries is for men, and is for females. What I didn't mention is that even though they're not participating in white flag, they will open the door to fill their capacity, whether it's 35 degrees, 40 degrees, or whatever. So it's really not a desire not to be in the program. It is more about capacity. So those are the three start dates, and they'll be open as long as they have capacity.

Other questions?

Yeah. Just so I'm clear. I think I lost my power. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Looking at the bottom of that, the white flag location TBD, that is the IRC we're saying. Right?

Or am

I just reading this wrong?

Oh, I believe it is the IRC.

Okay. It says adults and families, but then we also said that about security, you know, there's been a little bit of history there. So are we definitely budgeting for security, armed security so that folks feel safe when they go in there?

Sure. I'm gonna let Erin speak to that since she was a part of the RFP review process.

Sure. So, the reason that it wasn't listed as the

microphone. Sure. Thanks, Mary. Yeah. Thank

you so much. The reason that we hadn't listed it as the IRC specifically was that we had, recommended them for funding but had emailed them with some, contingencies. They had put in an application wanting to limit the number of individuals who were able to come in. And, obviously, in a white flag model, that's not gonna gonna support what we need. So just kind of negotiating based on some of the the funding and staffing that they had listed and some of the priorities that we wanted to support. So they're supposed to get a final budget and everything by this Friday. So we're just working out some kinks to get on the same page.

Yeah. It seems mandatory to me that we have armed security. If you're gonna be there with the warmest center with adults and families, I'm not sure what the budget is or what the RFP is or what the quotes are if they're needing to have security or armed security.

I don't know that armed security is currently in their budget line items, to what Andrea said. I think what we have, discussed is having officers on on kind of call by. I mean, certainly, it's up to, you know, some of our negotiations with the IRC about how they're choosing to allocate that and use the staffing. We did also write into the contract that as part of, them taking on the white flag, having community safety department do some extra de escalation training and, kind of crisis management training as well to help support their staff in the winter sheltering. But I hear your concerns about the security.

The IRC has done a great job, I think, and we've made sure to support them with security needs or police needs, and we'll be sure that this is a safe environment for kids and families.

I wanna follow-up on here. We discussed this last year at at death, and probably a recent compromise some kind of way with the police department and the sheriff department providing some services. And they

asked the RRC what would be the budget so that they can kinda come

and work around that budget and have some armed security there to deterrent for those folks that want to commit crimes. You know, massive bit of different arrest folks

just to have a police officer there, security guard with a badge with no authority to do anything. Okay? He talked about this and meth I thought last year. That's a serious problem. I

do want to follow-up on that.

Yeah. It it it just seems to me that that not only is it a deterrent those who want to do bad things, but it can also serve as a magnet for folks to come and be safe and feel safe. If I know that there's some armed security there, then I know that I don't have to wait five minutes for someone to show up for seven minutes, and who knows what can happen in those five or seven minutes. I think it's a magnet we have that sense of safety and security, especially if we're having families up there. I mean, we don't have three minutes or four minutes to wait for someone to come and deescalate something that's already happened and folks are already in bad shape. I I think we need armed security there from one zero.

I did just wanna add

one more thing. I

know that, obviously, there's a

lot of history with the the IRC that we're all aware of. Last year for a white flag, just to put some things in perspective, the community safety department did staff the Glenwood location that housed individuals and families, and we were actually able to do that, with just our staff and no security. You know, not to say that security isn't helpful, but I do think a big part of it is to the the training of being able to to monitor the site and kinda support people in, in being safe there for sure.

Okay. And that was the situation when Britta, you say you worked it out where our EMS would go there without an escort from the, police department or insurance department. Because that was the case with EMS, last year, that they said they wouldn't respond unless they have a police officer or a sheriff to be there with them, and that's not good. I said that. Then I don't want somebody bleeding out, on the, on the on the concrete, and then our EMS folks are waiting for a a police officer or a sheriff's officer, to come, and they might be fifteen minutes away.

That's a different scenario. So that was when the IRC was a twenty four hour model, and they we were responding there fifteen, twenty times a day. EMS got to the point where they would not respond without a police or a sheriff's officer. We have never had that situation at White Flag. Last year, we had zero incidents at our White Flag warning centers.

And and so, chairman, to that to that example, the other service that was running there at the time was safe parking. And so you don't have safe parking in this model. What you have is just white flag for, adults and and families. And and so the the the number of participation should not be as great. And and, also, the other consideration when we follow back up with the providers around security interest and particular security being armed, there's also that responsibility to work that out with the provider.

And some providers are not necessarily interested in on level security as well as a service provision. And so that's why we get back to the space of how do we potentially scale down the service so you don't have a potential crowding. Agreed. Now you're saying IRC would house 100. Right. Right. Right.

It has to be it would house at least a 100. And it's not house it's not it's not beds. It's chairs and tables.

That had a problem with that too. I mean, how many

can be how in a humane way? Because when I went there at night, I mean, literally sleeping on the floor two or three foot apart from each other, with blankets, and, some had sleeping bags and sleeping on their pillows that was not sanitary, but it was not humane.

So the only thing that we can really offer for families is something we would like white flag. Emergency shelters do not exist for kids. They just don't. You have to be 18 years or older.

Even though want kids, these were these were adults sleeping on the floor, sleeping on the on the benches, sleeping in the chairs, sleeping in the like I said, when one one literally right beside each other. They didn't know each other. If this found found spot, that's what they tell them. Found spot.

So for white flag, you're not allowed to provide beds because it's not a shelter. It's a warning center. And so this is all that the law allows us to do.

Sharon said she has her hands up, but we can't see it.

Perfect. Alright. Ms. Houthowers, go ahead. Can you hear us?

Yeah.

Thank you. Can you hear me? Can you hear me now? Yes. Thank you very much. I had a couple questions around white flag. Miss Harrell, you just mentioned Glenwood, and I know, we're probably not gonna use the church church again. But is that an option just in case? I'm a little concerned when you say low barrier with families, and low barrier, you know what it means. So is that gonna be a safe environment for the families, the kids?

Yes, ma'am. So what what we did last year and what we're gonna do again this year is you had to be able to separate the two populations, single people versus families. There have to be safe locations for each to exist independent of the other.

Okay. But we're only using IRC?

So remember last year, what we did, the the white flag at Glenwood was for families and adults also.

Okay.

Gotten good at doing that.

Okay. I know we started out with just families only for at the church location. Is that still gonna be an option this year, the location for Glenwood?

We still own that church. We're not anticipating using it this year.

Okay. Alright. That those were two of my concerns. I may have some others, but, yeah, I just wanted to make sure families were in a safe environment with children. I hear mister Austin's concern about being on the floor, but we aren't able to staff beds for for everybody that's coming. Unfortunately. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Thank you. Thank you.

Sure. Thank you.

Oh, one other quick question. With the r r the RFP, and you only had one respondent, I'm a little concerned about that, but I guess the RRC is set up to handle everything. And perhaps that's why you only have one respondent? Certainly.

I mean, I was a I was a little surprised, but sometimes that happens. You know, this is a different model than it was last year. And so if they were the only ones that felt like they could sort of shift and adapt to this model, we're glad that we have at least one.

Yeah. Okay. Alright. Very good. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Another session on that.

Sure. Chairman Lawson, I have one question about The Salvation Army. Are all those units back online for High Point? Is that High Point? Yeah.

Nina, would you like to answer that one?

What did you say, Greg?

Nina is online. She's probably the best one to answer that particular question. Salvation Army's got 55 beds, but I think the question was is are all those back online?

Yes. Good good evening, everyone. As far as I know of, those beds are back online, but I can confirm that. From what I understand, I believe that work has been completed, but I'll double check just to make sure.

So I did place in the chat the Open Door has 41 beds, six of which are for veterans. Salvation Army is 55 beds, and West End Ministries is 20 beds. So a 116 total.

And and if I this is Nina again. If I could just add in. Typically, with winter shelter, they are able to add about 35 or 40 more beds between the three. There was one time at one time, Open Door Ministries was renting some space at a local church, but, they're not doing that anymore. And so, basically, they only have the facilities that they currently operate. Westin Ministries, they are able they use not just Leslie's house, but they actually use the other facility on-site to expand when they do have funding for winter shelter.

Mean, Greg, this To

question about Salvation Army, they still are working to fix the flooding issue that they had, so they're running all about half capacity right now.

Okay. Okay. Thank you, Greg.

Nina, I'm sorry, mister chairman. Nina, Greg, how many total churches do we have, reached out to that could potentially act as, with with space? Do we do we have a list of churches that we've interacted with that we try to curate more, that could potentially help us in in in if we had need?

We have not directly reached out to any churches. It's primarily been, the shelters themselves, and I would say primarily open door ministries, but that is something that we could certainly work with them on. But we have not reached out directly to any, churches.

Alright. Well, along. Yes, sir. Next number to your agenda will be our strategic plan as well as on Doctor. Palmer. Thank you. So

as you know, we completed the strategic plan. And in the process of completing the plan, there are six priorities. Those priorities are now, have been identified and approved as goals in the plan. Those strategic priorities highlight, culture and communication partnerships, funding programs and initiatives, performance, and governance. It's important to point out that for programs and initiatives, there is a focus in this plan, on reducing the number of the unhoused. That was something that was kinda glaring at us, from the previous plan that we did not illuminate. And so we did that in this in this trend.

The

other is related Norman Street. And the I'm a teacher, so I'm okay. The the performance, priority focuses on individual agency performance, system performance, and performance of the COC as

a whole. You can go ahead and do that.

So the the actual goals in the plan, again, yielded six goals. One thing I do wanna point out is the, is goal one for governance. It's important for the COC to, have the infrastructure to do the work that it's designed to do. It has been because of our partnership with the county as the COC lead that we were able to actually produce this plan, and we were able to work through a process to do so. I do also wanna point out that the, strategic planning committee consisted of probably right about 10 individuals, which was a representation of about seven or eight agencies.

I think that's important to note. And so we were able to work with the consultants to produce to produce the plan. Again, as I mentioned before, the programs and initiatives goal focuses on, reducing the instances of homelessness. And so, again, that was not illuminated in the last plan. It is in this one.

This is a three year plan above. Another thing I wanna, highlight is goal six related to funding. One of the endeavors of the COC is to, work together more collectively and collaboratively, to secure resources and funding, as it relates to needs that are presented ongoingly by organizations that are a part of the of the COC. The, the next slide is related to priority alignment. And if you notice when you, look at the CLC priorities on the right side, notice that programs and initiatives performance and governance are not as blatantly aligned, but there are aspects as it relates to the tasks that do that do align.

Again, I do wanna point out the fact that the COC is not an organization outright. It it it's not a government entity. It's not a five zero one c three. It's not a business. It's a group of individuals coming together to do the work.

And so oftentimes, it's challenging to work on the infrastructure because you don't have that main organization as a way to do that. So I do wanna point point that out. A couple of things that are on the horizon. So our next board meeting has been, kind of reshaped, to be a, COC leadership summit. And the goal here is to gather our, board of directors, committee chairs, vice chairs, and then also to focus on the implementation of of the plan.

And so the county and both municipalities by way of the interlocal group, have, provided various resources in order for us to be able to do this. What we're hoping to do here is to, have representation from HUD. We're also, gotten confirmed the, representation of the NCHMIS and MICHA. That's the data the data system resources that we have. And then the other part of this, this summit is to, engage in some constructive critical conversations around some of the crisis issues.

For example, we were just talking about children and families. We do have a crisis in this county in sheltering children and families. And so that's why I was asking about those bids because as of last week, those units were not online. So, we wanna talk about that. And then, we do have, slated, for the strategic planning committee to engage in a work session in October.

So through the task force, what we wanna do is to build upon decision making as it relates to next steps.

And what we wanna do is to bring

present for you your future state that you did over probably about a year and a half ago with, CSH, the consultants. And what you were able to do was in the category orders that doctor Palmer just referenced, you identified your priority areas. And I wanted to share this just to make sure that, we're clear about the integrity of this process to get to this alignment. But these are the things that you referenced that you really wanted to see come forth in a collaboration. And I won't get into all the items, but definitely kudos to the COC for leveraging the opportunity to get an updated strategic plan, recognizing that our goal as government is to align with that.

The other thing that really highlights here is an opportunity for MOU or MOA with key stakeholders to include us once we have alignment. And then also performance based contract and inform funding. Spent some time talking about service quality earlier in the space of cross sector partnerships. As it relates to funding, we'll talk a little bit more around opportunities for funding to be braided. We're gonna go through some high level budgets across both cities and also the county, to be really clear on where we are with funding to then think about next steps.

And then also understanding our housing inventory, the work that we're doing around landlord engagement and eviction mediation falls into these buckets as well. And so we got to this point where we understood these priorities over a year and a half ago, and I'm pleased to say that we're in this space of key strategies and tech tactics where we have alignment. And what we know on this slide is is that we really have strong consensus in goal two as it relates to partnerships for the COC and their strategic plan, and we really want to, hopefully, leverage the alignment around new cross sector partnerships as it relates to our health care system, those that are justice involved that are unhoused, but then also understanding our crisis response system, particularly as it relates to winter sheltering white flag. And so how do we make sure that our innovative community is, supported well and engaged on a month by month basis and not just a seasonal approach? The other piece is linkage to agency performance and funding decisions.

Definitely, how do we enhance data quality around HHMIS? That is the system where your agencies involved in the COC is providing data, for us to make decisions on our funding capacity that then, goes up to HUD. Of course, hopefully, with the board's approval of county commissioners, the county will be assisting the COC in that data quality work. Again, they increase the number of improved support as it relates to coordinated entry. Definitely, we heard this loud and clear.

How do we make sure those that are unhoused can actually get connected? And so how do we strengthen that work that's being done with partners in homelessness right now in regards to coordinated entry? There's another goal as well as it relates to functionality. And so what this could look like with coordinated entry is what is it that you need PEH and capacity building, and how can the COC chair in its membership, work in partnership with this task force to have some capacity building conversations, in the future. And then, also, another one as it relates to improving functionality in regards to how long people sit on the by name list and to make sure that individuals don't sit long.

You heard from doctor Palmer. Sometimes things bottleneck. We can connect well and get you into a program entry system. But if we don't have a family shelter to transition you to, then you sit and you wait and you're not picked up. Or if we don't have permanent supportive housing to transition you to, you sit and you wait.

The other items around alignment is, of course, decrease the individual and family recidivism rate. Wanna make sure that individuals, that are housed, are stable, but also prevention. We have invested across the county in understanding our eviction mediation program. What we have heard loud and clear from the community is that, there's a need to increase diversion dollars in that space. And so when individuals come and they are receiving eviction mediation support through our team's program that as the city of Greensboro invested some dollars in as well, that how do we provide some, diversion support to make sure that people are not actually unhoused, and how do we get further upstream with their heard that loud and clear from the CLC.

Lived experience, how do we, at some point, maybe consider, a a reasonable contract with a COC partner to actually work with individuals that are unhoused to be a part of the space and thought partnership? What we know is individuals, with lived experience coming into this meeting space, need support, as well as, level of education and coaching that would be critical to to making this work. The other piece is street outreach. We heard that loud and clear early on. There's a lot of alignment as it relates to capacity building for street outreach.

How do we connect people to build trust and then get them connected with coordinated entry? Improving the flow of services and quality, and understand duplication. How do we look at the funding strategies between both cities, the county, and the COC to see where we have alignment, where we're duplicating is extremely important. And then how do we create a consistent funding strategy that's beyond what we have within our federal and HUD dollars as we recognize that, potentially, that's not enough to make sure that we meet, the overall need. And so here are some areas where, we're not necessarily, as a task force, you don't have alignment.

However, what that means is is that it's just future opportunity for conversation and negotiation or either special interest and investments from jurisdictions or either your private partners, your foundations, etcetera. The other thing is recognizing, as doctor Palmer stated, that the COC is not a funded entity, needing partnership to really leverage into these spaces. And so as you start to set vision, you have to do that in a dovetail way, with the funding source. And so just wanna stop for this discussion as we go into next steps as it relates to potential strategies for funding. Any questions around alignment where we're disaligned?

I do know, Victor, that I know he talks about this kind of offline about my dear the managers getting together to talk about a possible funding stream that we might be able to consider. Yes, sir. And just kinda run that back to us as for considerations and options that we might have that relates to all three.

Now you and I I'm in the CSC. Yes. No. Absolutely.

Actually, won't have to be on state call. We call the victory. They get together

and see how we might be able to come up with a possible.

We talked recently offline about that before. If something, we come back at the next meeting, we might be able to see. Sure.

Alright. Well, with that being said, I know that, we needed to make some transitions around 05:00, but definitely chairman, and also chair, mayor Vaughn, hear you loud and clear with work with both managers' offices in regards to identifying the current existing local funding, but then also looking at, overall budgets and what considerations are at play. We can bring back some some considerations and and.

Let me go back to the. We need

a doctor minutes to hear motion. So moved. Second. Second discussion. Here's on all the page six.

Next meeting date. Fifty twenty first twenty second. Good to me.

For me. To the test to the task force, I don't know manager Davis' schedule. We have ICMA on the twenty eighth. I I do recall this last day.

Yes, sir. I'll be there. We all we have to ensure that they see him here or someone else from our office can I mean, he's there so that we don't have kids?

To the extent, the electeds, have the High Point market going on on the twenty eighth, If I'm not sure if that impacts either of their schedules.

No. No. I don't think so. I think we can make it.

Okay. You

said twenty eighth? Twenty eighth is good.

04:00. Madam Mayor, you're the best.

I think so. And we'll see about, water resources.

May be. Okay. 04:00. Do you want us to adjourn?

So move. Second.

Second. All the. Aye. Closed May. Thank you all.