Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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[Music] Welcome to the Goodyear Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. We're excited to have you be a part of this important public process. Tonight, you will have the opportunity to address the commission on both non-aggenda and agenda items. The agendas and speaker request cards are located in the back of the council chambers. You must fill out a speaker request card in order to address the commission. Please hand in your completed card to a city staff member. You may check the I do not wish to speak option on the card. This allows you to still voice your opinion on an item on the record without having to speak. In accordance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, please contact a staff member if you need any assistance.

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Good evening. The planning zoning commission meeting for August the 13th, 2025 is called to order. Will you please join me in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Will the secretary note the role?

Absolutely. Commissioner Roberts is present. Commissioner Booth is present. Commissioner Hegodus is on the phone. Commissioner Wang is present. Vice Chair Sambito is present. Chairman Climber is present. Commissioner Nepo Mousino is absent. Is there a motion and second? Uh, at this time, a vote shall be taken to excuse members unable to attend due to extenduating circumstances. Is there a motion and second to excuse Commissioner Nepoamino from the meeting? I have a motion from Commissioner Wang and a second from Vice Chair Sam Beto. Please enter your vote. And uh Commissioner Hegodus, if you could please voice your vote.

I thank you. Some of the uh votes are not working down here. If I can get a voice vote uh for Let's see. I have a vote in Commissioner Roberts. How do you vote? Thank you, Commissioner Booth. I Thank you. Motion passes. Thank you. Item number one is to approve the draft minutes of the last meeting. Will the secretary please read the recommendation? Approve the draft minutes of the planning and zoning commission meeting held on June 11th, 2025. Is there a motion and second for the staff recommendation? I motion.

Thank you. Okay, then I'll put her Let me get second. Oh, okay. I'm just going to go with what I got on the screen, actually. So, I have a motion from Vice Chair Samito and a second from Commissioner Wang. And I apologize for any technical difficulties here. Please enter your vote and if you are not able to, please voice your vote. I thank you. I thank you. Motion passes. Now's the time for all citizens who would like to address the planning and zoning commission for any non-aggenda items. Are there any speaker cards? I've not received any for non-aggenda items.

Anyone in the audience want to speak on a non-aggenda item? Okay. Thank you. This is now an opportunity for commission members to disclose any exparte communications which may have had prior to this meeting on any any item scheduled for discussion on this agenda. exparte communication as any outside communications commissioners may have had regarding items on tonight agenda. Anyone? I do. Yep. I'm one of the 85 postcards for the agenda for the Monte Vista apartments that is on there and I have had communication with neighbors around what's on the agenda.

Okay. The next item on our agenda is the consent agenda. Would the secretary please explain the consent agenda?

Absolutely. The consent agenda is a group of items the commission can approve in one motion rather than voting on each separately. The process allowed is allowed by under the bylaws and is common practice for boards and commissions to help manage their time efficiently. Each item on the consent agenda is listed individually on the published agenda so that the public is aware of exactly what is being considered. If any member of the commission wishes to discuss an item separately, they may request to remove it from the consent agenda to discuss. You are also able to ask questions without removing the item. Commissioners, um, if there are no requests to remove an item or question, we will proceed with a single vote to approve all items on the consent agenda as listed.

Okay. Thank you. Will the secretary please read the consent agenda items two and three by title only? Yes. Second amendment to the comprehensive sign package for Goodyear Municipal Complex and recommend approval of the second amendment to the comprehensive sign package for shops at Saraphina. Does anyone on the commission wish to remove an item from the consent agenda? Okay, good. Is there a motion to recommend approval of items two or and three or you can voice an alternate motion? I have a motion from Vice Chair Samito. I second.

Thank you. I will put that on there. And a second from Commissioner Boo. The floor is open for commission discussion if you so choose. I don't have anything to say. Okay. I didn't see anything that brought concern. Okay. Okay. Please enter or voice your vote. I Thank you. I thank you. Motion passes. Recommendation of approval for the items on this consent agenda will be forwarded to city council for the August 25th meeting.

Okay. This evening, there are three public hearings on the agenda. As a reminder, the planning and zoning commission is a recommendation board for city council. The commission will vote on each item and forward their recommendations to council. Council makes the final decision on all items. Agenda item number four is the reszone for Pickerine. How does that discern the concern? Okay. I'm not I don't have any French in me. I'm sorry. Hi. I'm going to open the public hearing. Principal planner and Dolage will present. Good evening.

Good evening. Uh Chairman Climber and commissioners. This is a reszone request for Pyern at Palm Valley. The project site is 17.55 acres in size and it's located at the northwest corner of Monte Vista Road and Pebble Creek Parkway. Existing zoning is Palm Valley Phase 8 Planned Area Development or P A. And that PA AD allows high density residential which is the city equivalent of MF18 or 18 multifamily units per acre. Under the current zoning, up to 315 units would be allowed on the site. And a site plan was approved in 2007 for a 300 unit complex, but that was never constructed and the site has remained vacant. And that site plan is now expired. The applicant is requesting to reszone the property to PA AD with underlying MF24 zoning with a P A overlay. The overlay will modify some of the MF24 standards and it will establish some additional standards for this site and we'll see more on upcoming slides. And this new zoning will allow the development of a 383 unit multifamily development which will have a density of 21.8 units per acre. So a little bit under the maximum 24 allowed. The general plan designates this site as neighborhoods. Neighborhoods is compatible with a variety of housing types from large lot, single family, residential to multifamily up to 18 units per acre. Uh, densities higher than 18 units per acre can be allowed in certain situations when it's in the village center overlay or the mobility corridor overlay and with additional circumstances like on an arterial road, excuse me. Unfortunately, that situation does not

apply to the site. It is not in either of those general plan overlays. However, since the site is under 20 acres in size, it can develop up to 24 acre, sorry, 24 units per acre without needing to get a general plan amendment. The applicant has provided a conceptual site plan showing the 383 um expected units on the site. The site plan also includes 746 parking spaces which is over the minimum required and there will be ingress and egress from both street frontages. Several amenities will be offered such as a clubhouse, pool, tot, outdoor games, um barbecue, and a dog park. Um I just want to to emphasize that we are not approving the site plan tonight. Uh the applicant will be required to make a formal site plan application to staff. Um tonight we are just approving the or considering the reszone request and there are two entrances to the site. One for Monty Vista which is the main ingress and egress. Two gates will be provided and those are the blue lines shown here in the exhibit. A small number of parking spaces will be located outside of the gates for visitors. There is a driveway, a proposed driveway approximately 142 ft in length from the curb to that little roundabout and then some additional queuing space in front of the gates. So, vehicle backups into Monte Vista should not be an issue. However, the applicant is proposing a deceleration lane on Monte Vista to address some of the uh neighboring resident concerns. Um there's an additional entrance from Pebble Creek,

excuse me. This will be located at the northeast corner of the site from Harvard Street. And Harvard Street is a private driveway with shared access for both the Pyern site and the Harvard the village at Harvard crossing site which is the multif family development to the north. This driveway is signalized at the intersection with Pebble Creek Parkway. Um there's also dedicated right turn and left turn lanes into the site and a gate will be located at this entrance as well. Again that's the blue line shown here. And all vehicles will be able to use this gate for egress from the site. Ingress will be for residents in emergency vehicles only. So the applicant is proposing some changes to development standards. There will still be a 10-ft landscape buffer along the west property line. Um it will be planted with trees that are spaced a minimum of 20 feet apart on average instead of 30 feet. I think I might have skipped. Here we go. I'm sorry I skipped a slide. So, there will there are some modified standards that are being requested for setbacks and building heights. The rear building setback, which is the north side of the property, will be reduced from 30 ft to 20 ft. However, no three-story buildings will be allowed within specified buffers of the north property line, the west property line, and the southwest corner of the site. And these standards were chosen to be mindful of the existing residential development that surrounds the site. On this exhibit on this slide, any building that's depicted in yellow will be required to be limited to two stories in height. The other residential buildings on the site could be as tall as three stories. The clubhouse building and cabanas are expected to be only one story.

And again, there will be some changes to landscaping and open space standards. There will be a 10-ft landscape buffer along the western property line, and trees will be spaced uh no more than 20 ft apart. The typical standard is 30. Private space will be reduced from 60 square ft per unit to 52 ft per unit. Um that's private open space. Common open space will be increased from 400 square feet per unit to 408 square feet per unit. So it's an equal tradeoff. Specific amenities will be required and those are noted in the PAD regulatory document. There will be a public trail along both street frontages in addition to the existing sidewalk and it will include pedestrian connections into the site as well as shading and bench seating. and that is a public trail. The reason is also requesting specific standards for windows design. Um there will be, excuse me, there will be anti-glare window treatments on second and third story windows within certain distances of the west property line. when those windows face in certain directions and are not recessed into a balcony area. Also, Clarastory windows will be required for thirdstory windows that are within a a certain distance of single family development and that face west. In this photo is an example of what a Clare story window is. Basically, it's a window that's located high up on the wall, usually right below the ceiling, and it um allows light to get in, but also um provides privacy. There was a neighborhood meeting for the

project on February 28th, 2024. Several topics were discussed during that meeting including the appropriateness of the density of the project, impacts to traffic, sufficiency of parking and the ingress egress design, amenities and landscaping, the expected prices of the units and the timing of approvals in construction. Many of the applicants proposed design standards in their PD overlay have been designed with these concerns in mind. So, they've been designed to address many of these concerns. Examples include the proposed deceleration lane on Monte Vista and lowered building heights near property lines. Both the Aua Fria High School District and the Lichfield Elementary School District were notified. Um, Agua Fria requested that the applicant contribute development fees to help compensate for impacts to their district. the applicant's been asked to work on an arrangement with them and the applicant is here tonight. So, if you have any questions on the status of that, they should be able to help you. Finally, notices for the neighborhood meeting and for this public hearing were provided as required by state and local law. And we recommend that you recommend approval to the requested reszone from planned area development P A to P A with underlying MF24 and a P A overlay subject to the proposed stipulations. And I'm available for any questions. The applicant is also here and I believe they have a presentation they'd like to give.

Okay. Any questions for staff?

Okay. Would the applicant like to make their presentation, please? And again, you have a 10-minute limit. Thank you. For your record, I'm Taylor Earl with Earl Cur Earland and Curly. Our address is 3101 North Central Avenue. So, as staff mentioned, uh the site's here, I will just note that it's, as she said, it's already zoned for multif family. It's been in the family ownership of the Pern family for many years. Um, and so they're trying to put this into actual development after that long period of time. From the time that it was originally zoned to today, there's been a lot that's changed in the area, both in Goodyear generally, but also with the downtown coming in, it's sort of a different environment. Um, here's the context plan to show you how that sits. When you have the commercial centers, the southeast and the multif family in the area, and then of course a single family, which I'll walk through how we've done our best to address that. So again, already has MF18 zoning. Um, currently our request is to simply add 68 units to what's already allowed on the property today. Um, and so effectually in the exchange for that is the incredible amount of upgrades that are being made to the site, a lot of stipulations, a lot of protections uh to the west, um, and things of that nature. Um, and so again, we'll talk about the upper tier product, uh, gated community and enhanced landscaping trail. So this was the original proposal. This was the product type that Pern had originally planned to go onto this property. It's a product that they stand behind and it's one that exists a couple miles to the north that they have a current development. Um, but as they came in and saw everything that's changing in the area and thought this is actually a changed market condition. Um, and so let's do something that's a that's an elevated product. And so they're coming in with what they call their level 25 product. And I'll show you photographs of other sites that has this product so you can get a sense of not just a rendering but what that looks like in practice. Um so it gives you just a

sense of the com very significant upgrade in terms of uh development type right this is a much different uh type of development an upgraded proposal. So here would be the prior site plan kind of the clubhouse uh and this is the upgrade you'd see with with this new level 25 product uh sort of the fitness area before and the upgraded product here. So as I just go through these um what we're proposing here is a elevated product that we think really fits the market at this location given everything that's happening here. We absolutely believe that the uh that the market will support this type of product and as we have people here that can contribute to the rents that allows us to maintain uh the amenity areas in peak condition. So here are some of the amenities that are listed in our uh materials and we can obviously come back to any of these but uh and then we just uh we have a list of the amenities. Um if we wanted to make any substitution it would have to be approved by the zoning administrator from what we have shown into our materials. Um, as staff mentioned, we have a lot of what we've done is we we got the additional units by adding the third story, but we were protective of what was already there pre-existing on the west side. We wanted to make sure that remained two stories, which we can do by right today. So, we said, okay, all the three stories, let's push that further to the east. And so, what you see there is that two-story buffer all the way across. And then you also have the measurements there, which is taking into account the fact that you have an open space. the community has their own open space to the west of our site. So, it adds in a very natural buffer um in addition to the push back that we are doing with our buildings as well. So, you have a very significant amount of buffer between even our twotory units uh and the backyards of those homes. And so, this is way that would look if you were looking north on Monav Vista. You'd see sort of two stories to the west and then three stories to the right. um we took the existing site plan on the left and uh that is expired but also the proposed plan on the right and really tried to model it off of each other. So we were effectively sort of matching it

to the extent possible and again keeping that that uh height reduction o over to the west. So again as I mentioned the areas changed you have a lot of height that's being allowed within the GSQ area. Um these are just proposals in terms of uh you know designs that might look like. Uh and then you have of course the civic square and right across the street from us you have a four-story apartment building. So this is the sense of height that is next to our site. So one of the principles in Goodyear is a concept of graduated density where you're graduating the density down as you get away from those type of intense areas. And so that's really what's occurring here. You have a lot of height over to the east and as it transitions to the west you go to fourstory and then within our site we have threetory and then it goes to twotory. So, we're following that graduated density concept away from the downtown. Um, you see this concept in Phoenix. They have plans that focus density in certain areas, and as you get further away from those cores, they graduate the density down. Um, this is Phoenix's downtown, for example. You have certain areas that have a lot of heightened density, and then as you get away from those cores, it graduates the density down. So, that's that's the principle that we followed here. Um, in terms of land uses, you have a lot of mix of uses that are coming into that area, a lot of really great restaurants that are coming in as well, and we want to continue to see that occur in the future. So, ultimately, more customers brings better demand. Better demand brings not just keeping not just grabbing them the first time, but keeping good tenants there, and that's really what we want to see in a healthy downtown. So, we think this is a a great location for this. You're transitioning density, your proximity to the city's new downtown area creates a walkable environment. Um the housing density supports quality restaurants and retailers. Not just having commercial, but having good commercial. We don't want a bunch of chain restaurants. We want unique restaurants. Um and then you have folks who may say, "I want to be next to the downtown, but I don't want to be on top of the action, right? I don't necessarily want to be within where I might hear outdoor music, but I want to be close enough to walk." This creates that opportunity for people to

have that type of environment, but not be right on top of the action, um but be within a short short walk of it. So the site has really great access to um the I 10 which has a lot of employment in the area. So it's an ideal location. Um some of the recent traffic counts show that as arterials go in Goodyear uh you actually have less along Pebble Creek than you have in other areas in the city's most recent traffic counts. So timeline of events. Um this project was first submitted back in April 2022. U we had multiple submitts uh reached out. We had a special meeting for the neighbors directly to our west. We reached out to their HOA, set up a special meeting for them because we understood that they were the closest neighbors to it. Uh created a website where the neighbors could get on and review our materials. Put a lot of material on there to help explain it. Uh and then we had uh other meetings with folks uh in the neighborhood. Had our formal neighborhood meeting in February of 24. Uh had other neighborhood meetings sort of with individual neighbors after that as well. Uh and then recently had another virtual meeting with some of the neighbors. So, here's a perspective of how that project looks. Again, we're uh as we talked to staff, we know Good's not afraid of color, so we wanted to really put the architecture in it. Um, get nice roofs that match what's going on in the neighborhood. We wanted to be as compatible as possible rather than come in with a very modern look with grays. We wanted to have color and to have that type of design standard. So, it's also important to recognize what could go on the property. So, currently the red boxes represent where the ordinance would allow us to place uh two-story buildings. You can kind of see um how that relates to what we've been doing here. Um and if if the property were actually zoned similar to what we have west of us, you can see where two-story buildings would go versus where where we are putting uh those buildings. So, again, trying to push them back and be respectful. As staff mentioned, we are increasing the amount of trees that would be on that western property line, which is in addition to that open space, which is west of us, which also had trees as well. So, we're

doing a 20 foot uh spacing there so we can really increase a tree uh buffer on our western property line. Um this is sort of a rendering that shows you kind of putting in those trees. We recognize that some of these trees that are closer uh within the HOA space have died. Um and so we've actually agreed to to contribute money to uh put new additional trees back into that space if the HOA will allow it. So, all we have also done is not only do we have the twotory up front, but what we've also done is taken the third story and we put in clear story windows. So, as it faces west, not only do you have two stories front, but the third story, those are clear story windows that currently go into a hallway, not even to someone's house. So, they're above the ey line. So, what we've really tried to do is protect those western views. So, second story, but then as it gets to the third, uh, you're putting windows above the sight line. Uh and so you can see as we go down each one of these buildings shows you up the third story continues to be uh in a clear story window as it faces due west. Uh and then ultimately we changed this building after talking to the neighbors. This is building is now entirely two stories whereas before it was had a three-story component to it. Uh as staff mentioned we have anti-glare windows that we're putting in any window that's not within a balcony area on that side. There was concern about reflectivity of windows. So we agreed to do anti-glare window treatments on those. Uh there was a concern about the wall that's an existing wall, but we've agreed to extend that. Um as staff mentioned, we put in a deceleration lane even though the traffic study did not warrant it. Um but it was concerned from the neighbors that they didn't want to see any stacking up on the street and so we agreed to put in a deceleration lane. Uh and then also there was a concern about having too all the access coming in up Monte Vista. So we we changed our access point on Northeast. Um, previously it wasn't how it is now, but now it'll also allow for residents to come into that zone. Emergency of course, but it'll also allow uh residents to access that

spot. So, we we changed that in order to um sort of spread out the the impact and take some of the trips off of Monav Vista. Some of the off-site commitments uh agreed to fund up to $10,000 towards the installation of a fence and gate. That was something the neighbors mentioned they were concerned about people using that space. So, we agreed to put some money towards that. Uh and then also again to install also some trees to replace what what had uh had died during previous storms. Uh we have a pedestrian pathway that we've incorporated in to make this again have a walkable environment to it. Um and so with that I'm happy to answer any questions. I have a question for you. Um so you mentioned the buffer which is

who's who's speaking? I'm sorry. Am I can I go ahead or who who are you? My name is Rob. I'm one of the ports neighbors. Well, you'll get your chance and I thought you just asked. No. What? Anybody have any questions? You You got some things written down.

Well, I've got some things written down. I'm not sure if Mr. Taylor or our staff member is more appropriate to answer it. You did suggest that you're working to reduce the density as you move away from Pebble Creek towards the homes. When I look at the homes that are existing there today and that development just to the west there, if I'm not mistaken, those happen to be the largest lots and the largest homes in that particular development. So, it seems counterintuitive to densify apartments based on the logic you've expressed right up against them. It seems like a lot that wouldn't necessarily be the most appropriate for that. And I get that it all was already zoned that, but I would question why are we densifying further. Um, again, it's not necessarily the GSQ. We're apart from the GSQ. Yes, across the street and an ideal opportunity to reduce the density, but I might think that we might be going a little bit far. So, can you give me an idea? Are those homes not the largest lots and the largest homes in that particular development to the west? And does it seem like the most logical location to densify right next to the largest particular unit in that adjacent development?

Sure, I appreciate the question. So when we look at densification, I I think really what we're looking at what is the impact? What what would be the impact on those particular lots from the additional requests that we're making here tonight. And so we were mindful of that. So the question is with the 68 units, obviously it's already zoned for multif family. So there's already going to be a multif family project on it. So we thought about several of the things that we've we've heard about. So people usually have a concern about traffic. Um and so that's why we did our we made the change to add in the north the northeast to stipulate to that. Whereas again under current zoning that wouldn't be something that would be required. What do you mean add the northeast? So that northeast uh entrance is access point. Mhm. Okay.

Yeah. So that is something that will be uh accessed by residents so we can spread out the traffic. not something that's required under traditional zoning. So that's something that's going to be added into the project. So traditional zoning wouldn't require that they have a secondary access in case their main access is blocked during an emergency. They would have to have emergency access. Okay. But they would not have to have it open to all residents. Okay.

So by spreading out the traffic, something we've done to to address one of the t typical concerns, um the other concern we often hear about is views. And so we really took a lot of effort to make sure, okay, currently you're allowed to have twostory, two-story apartments up along that um western property line. And so we looked at, okay, how do we preserve the two stories? Okay, well, we're going to have three, but if we can do something with the views because that's one of the big issues is, hey, people looking into in my backyard, right? So we said, okay, let's make those clear story windows upon that western side. So those are taken above the ey line so that we don't have views down into the yards. And then we also took the trees on the west side and we we put them closer together so that you would have an even greater uh tree buffer. Again, not something that's required under the existing zoning today. And so we try to look at what is the impacts of additional density uh on the project. We we know that some people would prefer that this not have maybe single family homes or maybe that not have any of multif family. We completely understand. Um, given that it has that, we thought with the additional units, let's take the quality and make sure that it's commensurate with the quality of the of the project that's west of us, of the nice homes that are there, and make sure that we have a lot of things that make that will make this project nice. And so, that's why I walked through a lot of the things that we've done in that regard. We looked at the views. Uh, we looked at helping with the traffic. Again, the traffic study didn't require us to put in a del lane, but we heard from the neighbors, and so that's why we added in the deceleration lane. we have gates on both sides. So, it allows there to be people going left and right as opposed to just stuck at one gate. Um, and so we looked at a lot of those factors that the additional density would would have an an impact and said, "Okay, how do we mitigate these?" Because obviously what's changed in the area is that we do want to have great support for our downtown. And what simply around if you look at downtown Phoenix, um, that's about as dense as a place as we have in the state. And yet even with that, you still have vacant

retail sites. You have vacant first floor. So it isn't simply enough to say, "Well, we've got some multif family over there. That that ought to be enough really to create a truly good walkable urban environment." You do need a lot of units. And so we next to our site when we started this case, you know, years ago, we didn't have a four-story apartment building next to us. Um that was ultimately approved. And so again, we're stairstepping away from that, trying to keep the condition that existed on the outside edge. We have more density going to the east, but also giving trade-offs for higher quality and other uh protections that we're putting in that again wouldn't exist in the existing zoning today.

Okay. Um I respect that. I can appreciate that. Um also, I've recently read that based on the number of units that the city has added and approved that there are some concerns with vacancy rates. Is there no concern by densifying that it's going to further exacerbate the issue? I mean, if you're not able to fill it, I mean, from my perspective, I've seen development where I came from, they changed the zoning from commercial to office to then multifamily and took 30 years to finally develop. Main ideally, this may never even come to fruition if you can't justify building something that won't be occupied. What are your con current thoughts on vacancies?

Sure. Yeah, appreciate the question. So, when we go through entitlements and then permitting, really that last sort of uh stop gap measure is will it be financed and if something is not going to be occupied, neither the developer wants to go forward with building it and a bank doesn't want to finance it. So, that really ultimately is the thing. Keep in mind though that this project would probably about be about two years away from actually having people moved in if we continue on this click moving forward. Right? So the reality is that um Goodyear is not done growing. The West Valley is not done growing. We continue to bring employment. There's lots of vacant land for employment. So the area will continue to uh to grow. In fact um and this slide that I have here u says since 2020 the city's population has served nearly 23%. Um, cities like Goodyear and Puri are proving that growth doesn't have to mean sprawl. So, um, both it continues to grow, but then we're not, again, when you want density, and Goodyear is going to need places for people to live, it's better to have that density near arterials and near freeways, near concentrated commercial areas than to push them further into suburbia. Because if you're going to have to satisfy demand somewhere, you want to satisfy that demand closer to high-capacity corridors and high-capacity commercial areas so you're not putting them 2 miles away in a suburbia and then all those trips end up in that area. So you're going to have to satisfy it. We think it makes sense to satisfy it on a property that is already zoned for multifamily, can already go forward, and again has the access to the freeway, has access to the arterial roadway, which compared to other roadways has less traffic on it and is close to some of the commercial. So you can have walkable um environments, right? So so yeah, at the end of the day, we aren't going to build something that wouldn't be occupied. Of course not. Right. Um and so so that's that's the answer. Sorry, chairman.

Well, I just going to ask talking about uh being occupied. Are most of the properties coming online? Uh this seems to be one of the more upgraded ones I've seen. I although I have gone to some ribbon cutings to some of the others which are really upgraded. Do the upgraded ones fill up quicker or is it the other ones that are a little less priced fill up quicker? Sure. How does that work?

Yeah, great question. And and I can't speak to specifics, but here's what I can say. It really depends on where you're putting it. And I think that's the keys in our upgrade, right? So, you have to look at what would the market condition be at that particular location. Because if you did a a product that was a little simpler and then maybe had a lower price point, but you did it at the right location, that might fill up quite well. Um, on the other hand, if you put in a high-graded product in an area that maybe wouldn't warrant it, it might not fill as well. And the and the the sort of opposite is also true. So here where we saw the things that were happening with downtown and saw this is really a completely changed. This is a gamechanging environment. If you look at what's happening in the West Valley and point to the biggest downtown centers, this is definitely one of the big big achievements that's happened in the West Valley. And as a West Valley person, like this is stuff that's good. We really want stuff like this. So, it allows us to put in a higher grade product, right? And be able to get the rents out of those that can then support all of the amenities, make sure it's maintained well over time because we we believe the rents will be there given all the things that I mentioned previously, right? So, it is a great site to have an elevated product.

Anyone else? Okay. Thank you. Are there any speaker cards? Yes. All right. Robert Busan, if you would like to come up. Please be aware each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. The screens will let you know how much time you have left to speak. Before you begin to speak, identify yourself by clearly stating for the record your name and if you are a Goodyear resident.

Uh, thank you. My name is Rob Buswell. I am a Goodyear resident. I live in the community of Portales, which is located directly to the west of the uh proposed apartment complex. Um both myself and pretty much every neighbor that I've spoken to in my neighborhood is um opposed to this apartment complex and even more opposed to the proposed reszoning of this um complex. Uh we have a lot of concerns. Um not the least of which is the fact that Goodyear is a suburban community and our neighborhood portal is a gated community. We moved to Goodyear um because we didn't want to live around a bunch of apartments. Um, we moved into this neighborhood in specific being a gated community um because we value our privacy and um we feel that this apartment complex is already going to infringe upon that and our uh property values and uh you know we feel that um the noise and from the uh apartment complex will be an issue. We feel that al although they've you know made some um changes to their original plan such as putting in lane where their gated community the ingress and ingress from their gated community on Mana Vista Monavista already gets backed up without an apartment complex being there um at our gated community when you have people coming in and out of gates it does it's not as quick as somebody just turning onto an open street Um, I appreciate what their what they've done to amend their plans to try and make this more um viable for um our neighborhood, the people in our neighborhood. But I um

don't feel like it's um enough. I I don't uh I I think that it's uh an infringement upon um our um you know our our our neighborhood. Um and um I do do have a question specifically for the developer. Um but on the west side of uh their property uh actually the east side of our property there is a walking trail. It is it is private. You have to our residents have to have a key to access that. So, you mentioned something about a $10,000 uh improvement to put a gate there so that the people from your community, I assume, can't access that walking path that is our communities. Is that correct?

Why don't you go ahead and answer what you got? He just got 20 seconds here, but do you want to use your time and then I can answer that in my Yeah. Um Yeah. Look, look, I think I've said what I wanted to say. Um I just uh wanted to voice um that I am strongly opposed to this. Just one quick question of you. How how long have you been a resident there? Um I've been a resident in that community since 2008. The house I live in now is since 2013 and my house is directly next to this walking path that is in between these two properties. Thank you.

You want to answer that question? just just might as well just answer it and happy to understand too.

Sure. And in discussing with uh some of the neighbors, there was concern that with that open trail doesn't have a gate on it today. Um and the concern was that some of our residents might go and use it. Um we have a lot of amenities on our site. Um we we're putting in a walking trail, but we understand the concern. Um and so we said that we would contribute $10,000 towards building a gate there. But the reason I can't promise it is because it's not our decision. It's ultimately up to the residents to the HOA. Some residents may or may not want to have another gate there. I I can't say, "Yeah, we'll do that for sure." And then people say, "You didn't keep your promise." Well, it's not my call. So, we decided, well, what we can do is put that money towards towards EHA. If it's not something they want, then that money can come back. Um, but that was the commitment that that we made.

I see. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Next, EP.

Yes. Michelle Wallace. Hello, my name is Michelle Wallace. Um, I actually do not live in Portales. I live on the other side of Body Vista and I am the very last house there. So, this driveway is going to basically be my view from my backyard because my home sits further towards that apartment complex. I also appreciate that they have added space for the Portalis people and have said that they will do two stories for the people that live in Portales. But if you notice, they do still have three stories along that south side, which is exactly where my backyard looks at. My backyard is going to be looking at that entrance in those southside buildings. And for my property value, I don't want a three-story building there. My neighborhood that I live in is a one-story neighborhood. There is not a single two-story house in that neighborhood. Directly north of them, they built those little mini house apartments. Those are all one-story. Most of the homes that butt up to the west side of that are also one story. So, and I and they are not all of the biggest lots in the neighborhood. A lot of there are some big homes there, but they're not all the biggest lots. So, we're talking about going from one story to threetory. And when I bought in my neighborhood, one of the reasons I bought in my neighborhood is because it was a onestory neighborhood. Most of my neighborhood was not developed when I moved in. And a new developer came in and wanted to reszone for two stories in our neighborhood. and this committee and the city maintain the zoning and kept it at one story, which I

thank you for doing. And I'm just asking that you continue to keep the zoning where it is and not offer reszonings because those were created for a purpose. And those of us that bought homes in those areas bought knowing the level of what the zoning was there. I did know that that could potentially be a multi- family unit at some time, but I did do my research that it wouldn't be more than two stories. So, the fact that they're always trying to go higher and build more is just frustrating around my home and that we're doing that I'm doing this again. There is a ton of apartment buildings in that exact area. And I agree with you, like I'm I'm worried about being able to fill all of these. Yes, Goodyear is growing and booming and it's amazing, but I don't think that adding additional units and higher stories is what's best for the community in that area. I think it will hurt the home values of those of us that have homes around there. Thank you.

Thank you. Scott Wallace, you wish to speak? Scott is my husband and he had to go pick up my daughter. Sorry. Got it. Um, he is also very opposed.

Yes. Yes. And submitted a speaker request card uh for opposed uh Mark Slagger. Is it Slagger or Slag? I'm sorry. Okay. Uh Mark Slagger. I live in uh Portales as well. Actually live right next door to Rob. We share a wall. Um, my wife and I moved in there in February, Valentine's Day, actually of 2019. Um, my wife's and my biggest concern when we bought that house was that it faced to the east of an undeveloped lot. And the most reassuring thing to us was that it was zoned that it couldn't be over twotory. If you stand I mean, we literally have a viewing fence that faces the walking path that they talked about. Um, I don't know. Like I've done some chat GPT rendering myself with my phone of twotory and threetory windows. Regardless, it's a very significant view difference, which I'm not a property expert, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to do anything to increase my property value in a positive direction. Um, I do appreciate that they've made some changes to um increase the appeal and customer potentially that's in there. I'm personally less concerned about the people moving in there and more the view and the impact to property values in the Portella's neighborhood and ultimately the people that that drives into our neighborhood that way. Thank you.

Thank you. I oppose. And then I received one speaker card in opposition from Jeff L who does not wish to speak. Okay.

Anyone else in the audience like to speak? Okay, we're going to close the public hearing. Will the secretary please read the staff recommendation? recommend approval of the request to reszone approximately 17.55 acres generally located at the northwest corner of Pebble Creek Parkway and Mont Vista Road from planned area development P A to the planned area development P A zoning district with an underlying zoning district of multif family MF24 with P A overlay overlay as set forth in the draft of ordinance number 2025-XXXX. Is there a motion and uh for the staff recommendation or you can voice an alternate motion?

Okay, I have a motion from Commissioner Wayne. A second. Thank you. Okay. Beat you to it electronically. Vice Chair I have a second from Vice Chair Samito. Uh the floor is open for commission discussion. Go ahead.

Well, I just um a little conflicted after hearing the developers presentation from the perspective where where I come from. Um the the logic that it's moving to a lesser density when you're next to the lowest density in that general area conflicts in my head. I do appreciate a number of the changes that they had made. I mean, if you look at the one exhibit that he had that said the original or the existing plan allows the twostory units to be, I don't know, 10, 12, 15 ft closer to those lots. That's that much more visibility into the backyards and over the trees and whatnot. So I appreciate the uh extent that they've gone to the celostory windows, the higher windows that made when I saw that image on his presentation that really kind of set it off to me that hey, yeah, you're not going to see a lot out of there. I understood where they were coming from there. And I also appreciate the fact that they added that right turn lane, which is a big deal. So that's kind of where I am. I'm a little conflicted over it. Um, I do have the concern with the extreme amount of dense apartments that we've had just since the the few of us that have been here together for so long that have already been approved and adding more, but these were already apartments. So, that's where I'm struggling.

Well, that too. Uh, just one of the things you're talking about windows. I didn't didn't know that um people wanted um anti-glare windows because they I now I can see I can shine in your backyard. Um although those of us that have been here for a long time uh have seen the apartments go up. But then I also attended a meeting about a year and a half ago where an Arizona State professor discussed the fact that um people want uh the retail shops, they want the restaurants, they want this. All of those require people working there. But only 18% of Goodyear residents can afford a medianpriced house in Goodyear and they have to have someplace to live and they're not going to come from from uh East Phoenix to come over here to work. So there's that, too. Um and we're only 15% build out. There's a lot of things that are going to be coming up that people may or may not like, but um as development goes, I think I think the planners are doing a pretty good job of it. The um the upgrades that I saw in that as were like some of the upgrades I've seen in a couple other places I've visited recently, which are really nice. And I I think that there is a a amount of people that are going to want to move into there just because of the nice facilities and being gated and being a little more secure. Now, I know that um there are some people who have a problem because of apartments. So, um I don't know what to say. You know, it was zoned for apartments some time ago. uh 300 versus 383 uh twotory versus threetory that that is a that is an issue that will have to keep in mind when they vote on that. I'm actually conflicted also, you know,

because when I when I sit back and think about it, it's a it's going to be built well and we understand that. But as a resident of Goodyear, I also worry about an affordability because um you want a mixture of family, you also want um young adults. And what you know worries me is that the amount of apartment complexes that are actually going up and will our children will other residents be able to live and thrive in Goodyear? um this complex and what you guys have done, you um have listened, you have done everything possible to give that area um um growth. But what has me just, you know, worried is the affordability, you know, um, and if young adults and families are going to be able to pay rent and live in that apartment complex, and many others around there, period. It's not just you guys. It's just period.

Uh, Commissioner Heg, do you have anything? I'm go ahead. I uh I appreciate a lot of the concessions that were made in there and I think they're trying to do right by not only the land location, I'm sorry, the dogs barking in the background. Um but I'm kind of conflicted too because if I was those houses that were backing up to it, um I' I'd have a concern.

Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Roberts. I also appreciate all the changes. I'm not really conflicted because I also own businesses in Goodyear and my therapists who get make a very nice salary. They cannot they aren't moving out of Goodyear because they don't want to be in an apartment. They want to be able to buy a single family home or not even a single family home. They would take a condo. They want to be able to purchase something. And so I every person that I have asked or have said that I am on the zoning and planning commission, every single one has said, can you please stop zoning for more apartments? And I understand that this is zoned for apartments, but this is zoning for additional apartments. So I am not conflicted.

Well, on that point, if if the interest rates drop from seven to three, then there'll be a lot of people that can afford houses. But if there's houses to buy,

it's not like there's not a lot in Goodyear where we have saturated with apartments. And I'm not a I'm not even opposed to multifamily. I would love more condos. Like this would be a beautiful place for people to be able to go into purchasing home. I just I can't as a Goodyear resident. I've been here for 20 years now and we were very fortunate to be able to purchase a home and I can't get therapists to work out in the West Valley because they there's not even places to buy the So that's right. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else?

Okay. I think it's getting common though because

it's for a major city apartment is pretty common because since you know Phoenix is I mean are we uh well I think we're top five in the nation right population wise so and then since we're getting more and more people moving here and again I think we talked about it that Since we and as we're growing, we need more people u coming here to work and again people can't afford to buy a house. So we need apartments and again apartments is very it's very popular for major city. So me coming from a larger city um apartment is pretty common and I I used to live in an apartment. So to me um living in a you know five six story apartment is pretty common to me. So it just so to me it's not really and and I appreciate that the developer I you know they try to make it really nice. um they it's compared to by you know 10 years ago um I would definitely oppose to you know what what they did 10 years ago but now see all the uh availability um all the accommodation they have the clubhouse um workout facility um I would love to live there let's say if I had the opportunity you know let's say if I um if I was single or if I only have one kid, I will be okay living there.

Okay, we call for the vote. Okay, please enter your vote and if you're not able to, I will call on you individually. And there we go. Commissioner Hegodus, how do you vote? I thank you. Commissioner Boo I. Commissioner Roberts nay. Thank you. Motion passes. Recommendation of approval will be forwarded to city council for the August 25th meeting.

Again, this is a recommendation only. It's not a final vote and you get your shot again at the council meeting coming up and they are the final deciders. Thank you. Okay. Hey, agenda item number five is the use permit for Terable's convenience store. I'm going to open the public hearing. Senior planner Kyle Abbott will present. Good evening, Kyle. Good evening, Chairman Climber Commissioners. I'm Kyle Abbott, senior planner. This is a use permit request for a new Terrible convenience store and gas station in Goodyear. The proposed Terrible convenience store and gas station is approximately 1.29 acres. The project is proposed to go just north of the commercial center called Pebble Creek Plaza. The center includes a 24-hour Fredericico's drive-thru restaurant with use permit approved by city council in October 2020. The applicant proposes an approximately 5,200 ft convenience store with an approximately 2,700 ft fuel canopy area providing four gasoline fueling pumps that can serve up to eight vehicles at a time. Customers would have right in right out access onto the property from Pebble Creek Parkway. Right in right out access to the property from Virginia, plus access onto the property from an

existing Pebble Creek Plaza drive aisle. There is an active and accessible traffic light at the south end of the Pebble Creek Plaza. Upon arrival at the property, customers will have the option of using one of 27 parking spaces and entering the convenience store or heading to the fuel pumps. The proposed building elevations include colors and materials consistent with the colors and materials palette of Pebble Creek Plaza. And the height from ground to the highest point of the building is approximately 30.8 ft, which is well below the maximum height allowed in C2 zoning districts. The fuel canopy elevations include roof line undulation and masonry columns. Staff evaluated the proposed development with use permit and convenience use criteria provided in the zoning ordinance. The use is similar to other uses approved in the rest of the center which include the 24-hour drive-through restaurant. The nearest residences are evolution at Asteria Falls apartments which are separated from the proposed development by the RI canal. We had a neighborhood meeting. One member of the public attended the meeting in support of the project. One member of the public sent an email stating their concern about neon lights and signage. All outdoor lighting on the property is required to conform with the standards established in article 10 outdoor lighting standards of the city of Goodyear zoning ordinance and all signage shall comply with article 7 sign regulations. Based on this staff recommends the planning and zoning commission to

recommend conditional approval of the use permit. Chairman and commissioners this concludes my presentation. Thank you.

Thank you, Kyle. Any questions for staff? The applicant is Is he here? Anybody want to speak? Hi there. Anything you want to add? There's at least 12 other people watching you on YouTube, I'm sure. So, go for it. My name is Jeff Ksky. I'm with Archicon Architects and Interiors in Phoenix. Um chairman and commissioners. just we're glad we're excited to have uh this retail development go in for Terribles. Um they're based out of Las Vegas and if you've been up there, you've seen their facilities up there. Uh they're running Courtsite and they're they're expanding into this market and they've just, you know, this site is a great site for them. We've been working with Kyle um for the last year to get this to get this through and we're just excited to have the opportunity to develop in Goodyear. So,

thank you very much. I do have a question. Yep. Um, I noticed that the building it backs against Pebble Creek, which is great. So, people aren't seeing all the activity. Do you have something that shows me what that's going to look like street side? Do you have that?

I'll let Kyle pull up those. So, yeah, we did move it up against um that was one of the recommendations from staff. So, that west elevation that you see there in the middle, that is what will be facing uh Pebble Creek. So, we moved we moved that up to to Pebble Creek. And we also provided um one of the recommendations from staff is to provide a pedestrian area on the corner. So in the corner of the site, we have got a shade structure and some seating area in the hard corner. So and those are um green screens to allow vegetation to grow up on those on that west side of of the elevation along Pebble Creek. Is it possible to do more of that? More green screens. Mhm.

I mean it's the it's backing on. There's no there's nothing really going on. There's no fake windows. There's not You got the backside facing the street. Correct. So, it would look a little nicer if something more was going on. At least brighten it up with green or trees or something. Well, there's there's plan there's there's landscaping along the whole side that's that's in there. So, I don't Do you have a colored landscape plan by chance? I didn't I was provided a black and white landscape plan. Take a look. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you see that, we've got we've got landscaping and trees along that and shrubs along that west side um along Pebble Creek there. So, Mhm.

Okay. Any other questions? Thank you. Okay. Do we have any speaker cards? I received one speaker card from Jill F Jeff L who does not wish to speak but is in support of the application. Okay. Anyone in the audience like to speak? There's one. Come on up please.

Jeff Levy live in Goodyear. Uh speak on the mic please.

Oh Jeff Levy. I live in Goodyear. Um, Maria, you just brought up about worrying about screening in the back of this gas station. Well, I live close to Pebble Creek Marketplace, and you guys approved the strip mall over there a couple years ago by Grayson's son, and the back of that building faces McDow uh road, which is loads of traffic on there with no screening. So, I don't know what the big deal would be with this gas station not to have screening. We already have a, you know, an ugly apartment building right next to the Harley-Davidson dealer that looks like a mental institution. But the mall, you know, the strip mall over in front of Winkco, the back of that faces McDow. So, and there's no screening. So, I can't see why we would ask this developer to put screening when you just go around the corner and there's another building with no screening.

Okay. Correct. Anybody? I assume you're you're the one that was in favor of the of the Yeah, I've been in Las Vegas and their stations are great. They take care of them. They're beautiful. Okay.

They're like QT. So, and they need something over there, you know. I know we're getting QT on Indian School Road, which is great, but they need something when you come out the main gate that's on the other side of Pebble Creek. Uh I mean, uh the development Pebble Creek uh development, there's no convenience store right there. So, a lot of people from Beubble Creek are looking for a convenience store right there because there's you want to go out for milk or something, you got to go to Winko or go out on McDow. So, thanks. Okay, thank you. All right, that was it. Close. Secretary, please read the staff recommendation. recommend a conditional approval of the use permit request for a convenience use. Terrible's convenience store with a gas station proposed on an approximately 1.29 acre property zone C2 general commercial located at the southeast corner of West Virginia Avenue and North Pebble Creek Parkway. The property subject to stipulations. Is there a motion for the staff recommendation or you can voice an alternate motion?

A motion. I got a motion from Commissioner Booth. I got it on here this time. Okay. Second. Okay. Thank you. Uh second from Commissioner Roberts. The floor is open for commission discussion. Anybody? Just one point. We don't always get the chance to say something on projects if they meet the requirements of a center. It doesn't always come to the planning commission. when we have the opportunity as a resident, I'm going to ask for something if I think it would make it look better for my own appeal as I drive by. So, just putting that out. And and in previous, I've asked for some butterfly bush groves, too. They didn't show up, but I asked for them.

I agree. Okay. All right. Please enter your vote. Commissioner Hegedus, how do you vote? I thank you, Commissioner Booth. I Thank you, Commissioner Roberts. I motion passes. Recommendation of approval will be forwarded to city council for the August 25th meeting. Thank you. Agenda item number six is the superstar car wash permit. Going to open up the public hearing and Kyle Abbott is going to come back and tell us what's going on with this.

Good evening, chairman, commissioners. Kyle Abbott, senior planner. This is a use permit request for a new Superstar Car Wash in Goodyear. The subject property is located east of the southeast corner of 166th Avenue and Indian School Road. The property is shown on the screen in yellow. The property is zoned P A and has an underlying C2 general commercial zoning district. The property is part of the PV303 P A which was originally zoned in 2008. The property is within Luke Air Force Base 65 DNL. The proposed Superstar car wash site is approximately 1.26 acres. The project is proposed to go in a commercial center called the Triangle at PB303. A master site plan pertaining to the area shown in red outline on the screen addressing the plan for circulation and services was approved by staff in February 2023. The triangle is northwest of Pebble Creek Community Pickle Ball Recreation NRB storage areas. The center includes a filibberto's drive-through restaurant with use permit approved by city council in April 2021 and a quick trip convenience store and gas station with use permit approved in July 2024. The applicant proposes an approximately 4,000 square foot car wash facility with three pay stations for customers to use without getting out of their vehicle. 22 queuing spaces leading up to the pay stations and 17 selfs serve vacuum stations.

Customers would have right in right out access onto the property from Indian School Road and access via 166th Avenue. There is an active traffic light at the intersection of 166th Avenue and Indian School Road and a drive aisle from 166th Avenue is to be constructed as part of the quick trip development. Upon arrival at the property, customers will have the option of vacuuming the car or entering the queue for the car wash first. After leaving the car wash tunnel, customers can turn right at the internal driveway to exit onto West Indian School Road or turn left at the internal driveway to approach the vacuum stations or exit onto North 166th Avenue. The proposed building elevations include colors and materials consistent with the colors and materials palette approved with the master site plan for the center. And the height from ground to top of the highest parapit is approximately 30 ft, which is well below the maximum height allowed in C2. Staff evaluated the proposed development with use permit and convenience use criteria from the zoning ordinance. The tunnel does not face the neighborhood and the proposed development is more than 500 ft from the nearest resident. We had a neighborhood meeting. Two members of the public attended the meeting. No opposition was received and one member supported the project. Based on staff evaluation and public participation, staff recommends the planning and zoning commission recommend conditional approval of the use permit.

This concludes my presentation. The applicant, Madison Leak, is in attendance and has a brief presentation if the commission desires. Okay. Any questions for staff? No. Okay. Applicant, would you like to come on up? Good evening. Good evening.

For your records, Madison Leak. I'm with the law firm of Birch and Crackolo and our address is 1850 North Central. Tonight, I'm here on behalf of Superstar Car Wash. We have the pleasure of working with them a lot. They're great, best-in-class everything. I mean, in terms of technology, in terms of water conservation, everything. Um, I know they're going to make really good use of the site. This is a really challenging site. It's very small and it's very oddly shaped, as you saw. We appreciate staff's help, staff's recommendation. We appreciate um that we have no no neighborhood opposition. And with that, I will open up for any questions and ask your recommendation. I have a presentation, but Kyle did an excellent job, but I'm happy to hit on anything additional. Questions? Well, thank you. Thank you so much.

Okay. Any speaker cards? I've only received one speaker card from Jeff Levy uh in support. Uh do you wish to speak? It says do not wish to speak. Okay. You good. Okay. Just Okay. Anyone in the audience want to speak? There's not much left out there except for the applicants. Okay. I'm going to close the public hearing. Will the secretary please read the recommendation?

Recommend conditional approval of the use permit request for a convenience use superstar car wash proposed on an approximately 1.26 26 acre property zoned P planned area development P A with an underlying zoning of C2 general commercial for parcel 501-02-954 generally located south of West Indian School Road and east of 166th Avenue within PV303 East to phase 1 the property is there a motion for the stack recommendation or you can voice an alternate motion you want to move it okay I have a motion from Commissioner Wang. Second,

and a second from Commissioner Roberts. The floor is open for commission discussion. It's a tough site. I agree with what they said. I mean, it seems like a logical location, especially adjacent to the RV parking and the and the pickle ball. So, yeah. But I think that it's going to work out well with QT being right there and so on so forth. So, it'll be agreed. They're a logical complement to each other. So, yeah. Okay. Call for the vote. Okay. Please enter your vote. Commissioner Hegodus, how do you vote?

I vote I. That is an oddshaped property. Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Booth. I. Thank you, Commissioner Roberts. I. Motion passes. Uh, recommendation of approval will be forwarded to city council for the August 25th meeting. Okay. Do we have any staff communications? I do not have any staff communications for you tonight. Council has been on break and will adjourn at the first meeting on August 25th. Okay. Then the next planning zoning commission meeting will be on September the 10th, 2025 at 6 p.m. in the Goodyear city hall council chambers. The meeting's adjourned.