Planning Board - Regular Meeting

to the order 2025 business minutes also. Motion accept this meeting. Got some business representing James Jackson number. 32-8 street plan 220-20 requires this proposed project representing is there any from the community that would like to comment on that table. I just want to make sure there's no order of business. Michael Fernandez. Next construction represent Johnson Street.

220-1 this required by your name. So it was an existing house there. There was a shared ground. So over the north of the street for the earn the whole thing to make it up to city. Yeah, it's ter Hey, is there anyone from the community that comment? Is this

Well, the new uh way is 26. 61 question. The driveway pitches to the sidewalk because last meeting from somebody they did the same The fact is driving down the street at first. So policy coordinator Um uh we only manage plant size

So I think sounds better. We'll put it over construction. Johnson was made condition as you can Yes, that's what Thank you.

Next order of business will tax 302.124 34 zoning chapter 220-y building a single store on requesting third There was no there was no drawing. Side to Nelson each side No, the driver was empty water. Is that way couple years ago

from property from the Correct. Correct. New home. Yes. Well, that's not the house. Don't mind. movies. Sorry.

modified sidewalk issues with I'd like to make a motion board in favor of the application of how mysterious July 202. 25. All in favor? Michael's one last week. She's actually second there's a big storm water issue

also requested as well as to give us more dimensions that she did provide to us but is not able to come speak out today because she did not include the Okay. issues. I'm making sure Green Springs LLC contract tax number 17-13-14 178 street view to convert the existing building for mixed use of 19 bar with an additional 2357 commercial space pursuant to city zoning chapter 220- 20 C19 this requires sight Okay. and architecture review AR25-00003 Springs Capital Group LLC contract of tax map number 303.17-13-14 Homes 178 Maple Street architecture review to convert the existing building to a mix use of 19 units with additional 2357 ft of commercial

Pursuant to principal zoning chapters return good aspect. Um basically our advanc Oh, actually this. Okay. First as far as conditioner streets this is street side overall industrial district of the parcel. So uh this area existing structure is located this portion of the structure is a threetory structure but the first floor two and a half story portion of the building side at some point to the structures overall Total footage is approximately 21,25

portion. So pretty much as far as existing building t-shirt company. As far as what is being proposed, two uses, commercial use, 157 commercial space and two first uh the structure Uh as far as entrances for that commercial space, there are entrances available as far also as part of the renovations of the building department that are being proposed. on the ground proposed. One studio with four required first level which is the same level as the commercial space proposed two studio one two bedrooms proposed one studio and seven as far as parking requirements required of one space requirements 1.5 that applicants in the back of the project

so they do have to requirements. Uh we're also proposing parking in the front in structure. Previously there was parking area to access the garage structure overall push that street that area prior as far as turning around turn around back out similar to the current balancing space. that the asphalt in this area. Okay. See gravel as we will have a walkway to get in the structure. We'll also have that converting that to accessing building access directly. There's also an access point that's been maintained, but there's an access three three access points. As far as lighting, we are proposing sight lighting, one sight light, three lights in the back, lighting style.

Last but not least, as far as utilities existing sites towards water, slightly certified public supervision. address the city engineer again want to discuss I'll be more than happy that I want to discuss where first off is facility So we thought that was convenient for residents to access that also very like no discussion parks

the Cooper Street. So to the three parts is an existing existing park and existing loading spaces for the future commercial. Starts a number of spaces and power. outside of the sidewalk. So, we would like to spaces far right now. We are supposed to take that part down. So we figured, right? standard size especially when it's very possible getting right off the sidewalk. Yeah, that's a great idea.

Open up. Would anybody from the community from the public like to comment state and anywhere about right. You saw that they were going to do office too. Um, so I guess that's what I'm here for. Did you see parking lot behind it? I guess it counts. Uh yes there are 20.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Can I just quickly address 125? I'm immediate neighbor by the water. Where's the snow? Where's the water? I got a 10 deep that's there. That's 10 in. That's a ton of water. So, the pavement you're pushing all that is parking. Sure. Yeah. Um so part of the issue here is is uh you know I get along with Jim across the street fine but um I don't want this to be a situation where he gets to eat his tape and have it too. So I mean he uses this space that we're talking about for parking for parking for his business. When I came back out here, there were five sprinter vans out there in the car. And the sprinter vans take up more than

one parking space a piece. So during the day when he's got employees there, there's even more vehicles. Question I is if he gives up this space, is he actually got enough space on his property to store all the cars and trucks that he's got plus customers plus access to his loading dock for tractor trailer? That's number one. Number two, um Jim takes a lot of the snow load from his side of the street and dumps it over to the other side of the street. So what happens is that in spring you've got Mahoney up his snow. You've got Jim pling all snow there and then you've got both the ground frozen and then it rains. So you got snow melting and you got rain at the same time. And Mr. Mone is not exaggerating that freaking way back there and it's a lake for like two or three weeks out here and it's it's 10 12 in deep I think out there and we're talking like you know 100 by 150 of them water even during the storm that we'll get during the year when frozen we'll have st water out there for not as long but sometime So there's a huge engine. The other thing that I noticed here, the way this is run, maybe there's enough room, these three parking spaces in front don't really look like they leave enough room for any type of access to the front of the building. So the only handicap accessibility for this emergency space is via the front. But if you got three parking spaces there, it doesn't even look like they can get in there. And you know question was I I don't have any problem you know coming into the

building but I know the last and and and honestly I didn't comment the last two iterations of this I didn't comment this you know with what they were proposing which you know obviously was a lot less intensive than what's being proposed now but I did note that priorations had earlier so I don't know That's something that's required for ADA space that are separable from you know leveling out iterations of this and those issues this this iteration So the other certainly the water biggest said. So yeah, so each of these blocks is worth five. It's a 50 foot east. So 1 2 3 4 5 6. So it's it's a little it's a little deceiving the way this is just so that

I'm getting scale the I believe place and again like this here you know it's not it's you know space between sitting there looking too say something about this too. It's uh just winter we have snow storage maybe it's not I mean you don't think that's storage but um if they're going to drop it off it is but again I don't know what the by myself. just so it's the ement from the what I pulled up. So we that's it's just you know that's just it's just so

you're suggesting that maybe a little but if you Even if this building is um building 50 plus your building my building. So it directly has like so Well, actually, no. But I know a survey of 178 and I know this. I'm only asking because I think it's one right it's right

if you look at this last drawing here drawing scale So, so I mean, you know, I guess they can figure out what all I mean that's really kind of new things, you know, but yeah, this this is probably Well, there's two design. he was doing. He was abolish this. So this is kind of a rework on on what works probably in terms of the way in terms of what's okay that comes content at least in terms of like in terms of you know those blocks each right so I'm just counting the number of blocks out it's too too far up

you know yeah so so you know biggest issue is is water right parking lot. Yeah. And this is where like I mean, you know, because it's not only storm water, it's snow too at the same time. So you expect to catch, you know, whatever how many storm you're talking about plus how much bunch of new snow from winter simultaneously. That's what makes it that's what makes it even more ridiculous. starts. So everything from my group we put um we put uh there's a burn basically outside the property here. Part of the problem we used to have was all this water on my property I believe over here. But we've spent on on these properties we spent a lot of money. saw two main things happens over the drywall over here in this one. This didn't have quite enough snow, you know. wasn't you know together the reason I asked

no you know it's all yeah like I No. And uh and this is like I said nothingification. Yeah. So I'm going to This is the same same basically selling his parking So those parking spaces like I said for example

supposed to be additional. He stole the business in the business probably land if I could just address few items. First as far as the east do feel is is appropriate according to surveyor it's east area 6287 page 29 survey we did provide to the city was transferred over to the plan that we are proposing as far as the gentle reference it's actually not true this is just a a hash pattern it's not necessary scale scale on the bottom drive and the width of that does survey based on my visual look back and forth. We'll confirm that make sure as far as the ice looks like we have small amount of two spaces extended but still nothing more

than so I think that's appropriate as far as snow we did some snow areas one of our plans we mentioned outline that is store in that particular area as far as the storm water storm water impacts impacts sounds like far as can't solve all the problems in the area but they are reducing bus areas are more solving problems. As far as the access, we can take a look at that. that is that area that requirements I think that was it. Hi, my name is Brian and just for the space that Mr. purchases that so that contingent approvals.

Okay. So comments I guess my first comment was related to storing water and This plan shows if I understand that and I guess my comment is suspected that I I myself have not ever been able to get anything approved. We're allowed to send our water to the streets and I think probably Yeah, just one right now. [Music] Have the opportunity to improve whatever infrastructure situation has. So I think this waterite I think Yeah, I cannot see this getting approved without medication for that.

And it is doing a lot of business in that across the street there. So there is a major issue there. [Music] But I mean that's just conventional best practices but as far as comments go I like Hi, I'm Steve. I'm Steve Park. Didn't hear your question. It's the intent to clean the brick, fix it up, clean it, tighten it up. Right. Correct. And you want to replace the windows. There's a red here or replace that before but not there are some that are just fix up and the sense I get is that you're kind of keeping the sort of look of the original. Yes. which I think everybody appreciates, especially now to be as close to the same

color. It's essentially a dark And then over does that commercial space? Yes, there are two. So there's one here. Today I'm going to be showing you the the door and that is tends to work. Oh yeah. Maybe um you indicated possible for like transformer So this is the northwest. This is piece. I think it's one of your

suggestion that it would be would be on street because there are some there's possibly I pushing them away from streets right yeah we don't disagree I think what we're saying is that there may be a little bit of model that is serving that North Ent. Um my fun was a second. So in terms of us it would be nice to see the length of the site parking that's right next to the building and parking lot. In other words, streetscape right along here. you know, we anticipate that the plan

uh speak to what we I don't think we intend to prop it would remain open but possible that they to basically going off the page. It's going to be cards and right the west side. And then my last question is just from an architectural code wanting to give sincere restoring building to its original Good question. It's first of all, it's not reference to its original configuration. Not the exterior of the facade. Yes. The building in general meets code as it's laid out today internal building. The egress is 120 from R2 F1. Technically speaking, that additional window exit isn't required in this situation.

In a residential situation, having said that, the basement, the first floor apartments certainly do have that different suspenders ability. I ask because construction that is called for that will change the exterior of the building. So we're trying to get out ahead of that. To understand the interpretation, it's not required to have those windows. Second floor windows basement are available for that, but they are also means of paran. They were required because they had two means of those windows are required emergency exit windows. How we strongly encourage that we have access but because it is sprinkler has two sprinklers. Yeah, those are required. There's different levels of spring protection. It's what we would call fully and there is a system there now requires some reconiguration space but we have opportunity in the meeting. I just Yeah. And I only ask the question because as I said, you know, we're looking at and they're very nice in my opinion. Um just not wanting to be surprised by some change

that no we do anything else on this. So we just had a couple of clarification reports that we needed. One was commercial space what exactly it's going to be listed at. Um that's really just for my final approval. So I know exactly what size code we're looking at. The other is the basement second floor dead end corridors even sprinkler is 50 ft. So we just need to verify that there's no more than 50 ft in those dead ends. The sprinklers the mention 13R 13 is more robust. The plans typically mention the sprinkler heads. We need to know exactly what is above. We um by our code said 13 just because that's the more robust system. You can't kind of dial that down. Put a 13 on our head on it. So we just said 13 throughout. Yes. Yeah. Oh, and the storage just on the application and then the one three stories, one bedroom, two in a basement just that same way as being through everything codewise. I just shut off and this is me all code requirements, but then really the exception commercial space was kind of big. There could very well be differences if it's not one to be mixed in with the presidential. I believe if I correct that code it's just anything special that needs to be in there but it's mixed in with an R2. So just kind of nailing down exactly what that piece is going to be and the elements can change that later if they choose to use that space

in a different way but for us it's I can't give approval one or four option so I think we agree 13 is probably the basis but um we want to point out is that there is to to your point a very robust wall between what is a dedicated residential and commercial that's a 16 18 in brick wall which gives us more than we need for fire rating that being said I mean some of these we will tighten them um and probably could show you more detail and look at that and say yeah works there and works there. Okay, for now it's a good point. intend to repair and possibly reflatten but in that he's at the back of the site really that all the just whether it's planning or um

I This is you got to have one sleep. This one has 28 into court space between the sidewalk that's not just hard to see two You see this? Yeah, there's no need for one in this configuration space. aggressive

accessibility that we have to the levels that we have them. And I wanted you two locations, the one we first were testing. I think the reference here is that is located not the one that's true and then that will provide access to the commercial as well and resil in your first war. I also wanted to point out a little bit and has to say obviously the two one there's a third one and thought it's actually three places people cannot climb stairs and can't get to the ring yet that's not our tomatoes evaluation except change down. No, doesn't change

that. It looks like what's wrong? storage. You're actually I think that's just No, that just Indeed. Uh right now it's uh just everybody drives over that side.

Maybe not doing sidewalks there being that was the comment about assessing sidewalks. So it's request and then I'm just I'm still not clear in this area this area and Derek's office. The elevator will scenar triangle.

No, they're dedicated. There we have placed one for each section. Only what would be on the upper roof and roof and That is that is again couple of times we've been there just long And I have the same concern, but uh as far as we can tell that They're actually quite large. Each one is the size of this high but ceilings are also slidse.

precisely they are not reaching. They have operational foot. Yes. It's all based on what we're talking about splits or it's all based on and based on the math and you have to augment that system It's recording demand months. That's running. That's a good question. But um you're told that well I am a little skeptical and you'll have

assistant. a lot of stuff. My list was management plan as well. location details regarding the actual one more issue and that is the access to the parking lot assess pushing for you know it's a problem city so entrance and exit from that even though that was just a bigger water so they're pushing for actual entrances assets from that

some way something to delineate more this new property from the property so Yes. Yes. There was also a great You want me to go again? I think exact location details where the land is going to be an assessment of the sidewalks updated drawings

space. You also ask the elevation Just down the same thing to me. This is just how it goes. Number 15 answered yes by the state or federal I'd like to make a motion. second. All favor.

Next item on the agenda, sign board 25 number 303. 107 building 220- I'm going to alongside my business. Yes. can do I can kind of talk about retention. Well, it's going to be like it's going to be like the other murals that you've done in the city. Um that's to be determined. It depends. Um but what um you know I start to do the correct prep right materials and yeah like their father What are you doing? What am I doing on the metal?

Metal. Yes, I have uh many years experience painting. I've painted signs on metal before. Um and I know that um needs to be proud, but I have a plan of action as far as you know each surface has different looks like I think that was the intention you know I wor the idea was to blame a certain style he was looking for like 1950s style drive things um to kind of natural and aesthetic with the business. And then of course the intention behind this is you know it faces um it's un you know facing. Yeah. So you're going to drive on board and look down or the parking lot factory you would see it. So it kind of faces out to the parking lot. Nope. It's just on the out side there and of course it's to you know help people attention. I think I was here exactly a year ago last year for with Diana from the kitchen and the same deal where it's like signage homework. Um, you know, just trying, you know, signage that you can still see right now.

Same thing, right? just asking is that it is optional? Yes. Um you know the products I do use are like a higher quality you know exterior paint and um we will be doing some minimal prep work just to make sure that integrity of it stays as far as the anti- graffiti it's it's optional with each corner. I just hope it's sad that you need it. I know. So far so good. But you are just like, you know, 100 years from now. Absolutely. I don't have any issues with it. Oh, that's right. Because it's kind of an interesting middle ground. It it plays off of um the the colors of his logo, that blue, but it also um kind of is the middle ground to complement the green. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a dual tone. It's like it's almost like a an icy light blue and then like a dark myself

hereby. I think all favor. Thank you. So I guess we're We'll have soon. Sure.