Planning Board - Regular Meeting

I'd like to welcome everybody to the June 3rd, 2026 City of Los Alamos Planning and Architectural Review Board Meeting. We have a few things on our agenda this evening, not as bad as usual though. First order of business to meet with the approval of the meeting minutes for May 6th, 2026. Mr. Landry, do you have any comments? No. Mr. Campbell? I have a motion to approve those minutes.

Second?

All in favor? Aye. Hang on, hold on. There's a site plan for the USC 26-007. I will be at your question. This is the 15th floor. He's the owner of 178 Glen Street, pass number 302.20-31-6. He's approval for the birth. Bacon, upper floors are two, four two-bedroom. Table for the last two or three meetings. I propose that we deny this and reapply when we're ready to go.

Deny without prejudice. Excuse me?

Deny without prejudice. Deny without prejudice. We'll get a motion on that.

7-0.

Okay. I'd like to make a motion that we close all planning boards. acting as the board of site plan, do you think your body is denied with prejudice? Without prejudice. Without prejudice. Site plan approval for the project identified as Tina Flores, owner of 178 Plum Street, tax back number 302.20-31-6. Has it been taken for the last three weeks?

All in favor? Aye. Next order of business, site plan review SB25, excuse me, SB26-015, architecture review AR26002, Kelly Feldman and Adam Feldman, owners of 146 Maple Street, tax map number 303.17-11-27, seek site plan review and architecture review approval for the conversion of a two unit structure to a four unit structure with the addition of a rear deck and a staircase to provide access to the upper floors. Anyone here representing that application? Motion to table that.

if you have a problem just call the

My name is Adam Baldwin. My husband, Kelly Baldwin, the owner of the project. Sir?

Lift that mic up a little bit.

It's also part of the project. Sure. FYI, my architect is a parking, so if there's civic marketing questions, I'll also be here.

So my project is currently a three-unit building.

Currently, only two of those units are viable, the first floor and the second floor. a third story and actually build a boat and seat up there. So that's why we're actually part of the framework.

So it'll be end up net net as a four unit building. in front of the zoning and improved from that perspective. And now we're here to make our architectural review and plan the excitement approval.

And in addition to that, I know it's not a subpar review, which isn't quite high, I'm working with the city to integrate some ACR funding here. So this is a city-partnered bill.

Is there anybody from the public who would like to comment on this application?

So you said it's already .

I'm not sure about that. I mean, that's how it's tagged.

It's a group separate unit. There is a distinction .

OK. Yeah, I mean, all these testing .

Right.

They're a GC1 commercial zoning district. So if I remember the plan correctly, you're going to take that rear deck and basically reveal the whole thing, extend it all the way up, and then take the dormers in the back and replace those with new dormers.

That's correct, yeah.

And the image that you have in the packet, that is an old image, so we actually already have taken down that current stairs, those exterior stairs for safety concerns. They were not going to save the problem.

Current, so we, yeah. Oh.

And it's a lower historic house, and so leaving those stormers who are going to be attacked staying with them. That's the goal. You measure it and you know that you can.

Yeah, we had our part. We had to go through the bidding process, but we had the potential and the DVD contractor to measure and approve that it's viable.

And then getting from the deck actually into the building, you're going to move, I guess, sections of existing historic corners. What would it look like to get out of the drawings in front of the building? There they are. Right, right, right. So there's a section of a cornice, exactly the cornice that goes around the building, right? Right there? Yeah. And then we build up, it looks like from the plants, you guys are going to move.

Yeah, that little section's exactly.

Is it going to be the whole section between, the whole width of? The new deckers could be, I guess what I'm, it's a beautiful building and I'm hoping to be renouncing all that.

As much of that time as can be preserved in as much places as possible. My name is .

Sorry, what was the question?

I'm wondering how much of that cornice is going to be removed from the installer.

The intention is to use the two windows that are there as the doorways. So I mean, as little cornice as possible would be removed. I'm not sure I've got outside the roof, but we'll need to achieve that.

So it looks like the bottom, like the top part, those windows will stay there. They're going to use that whole bottom accent piece that goes all the way around the corner. The corner goes out all the way down to the exterior of that building.

So where I circle right here, I'm just wondering if you're going to remove that, because that's where the deck would be. Yes, I think we would.

The only other question I have is and perhaps I can get

There's only one way to learn about that.

As long as you're there, you have comments on this project?

So a couple of things that came up with this project. One of them is that because of the state of Clark, we need an emergency light, CX signs, signature of the 50 feet in all the common areas. They will need two needs to be addressed, because we're hitting the third floor. Even if it's on the third floor, it's going to need a second need to be addressed. And that was not my question, what's the status of the stairs. I had a question if the stairs are even needed. They are needed. So we need the two needs to be addressed there.

So the building's not currently sprinklered, but the sprinklers are required to respond to any of the sprinklers.

Okay, so that would be one of the exceptions. So one of those two would happen. Do you have one more question?

Yes. Yes.

I mean, I think we'd be able to provide a wall not just sprinklers that we sprinkled out for the building.

Yeah, we can locate it by the state side of the building and have the head to the outside, but yeah, there's solutions for that. Okay. That way you just have the exterior and the third floor. Sorry? That way you just have the one access to the third.

Yeah, right now the second stair that's inside the building, I guess the first stair that's inside the building, it's not really in the right spot to be able to use it as a second need to be addressed for the new units or the users in the second floor units. So we'd have to do whatever is necessary to provide more need to be addressed for the new deck.

So I guess I have a third major question. So on the application set, we're going from two apartments to four.

So is the current office class in R3, we're going to move to an R2? It's currently used as a two-unit building, but it's listed as a three-unit. So we're basically splitting the third unit into two.

Are you asking a question about state buildings? Yeah, so it's like the code classification.

I'm trying to understand if just the fire code applies, or if you have not received changes, but the whole building is going to have to be brought into compliance with the code.

I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure why we were made of the building wouldn't currently have the current code requirements.

Well, if it's an R2, there's sort of lower thresholds.

or there's some of the requirements that might be taken into play, for instance, fire separations between units. And those either likely exist, just given the nature of the floor make-up and the ceiling make-up, or we can provide that between the units, certainly, as well as any kind of common walls or floor or ceiling assembly that are required between units.

And just to suggest, it would be useful to you, it would be useful for you to understand that and be clear on that before moving too far down. Right.

Because it could have implications.

Sure.

no and what's your question so it's either they have to add two means of the aggressor that diligent action only strictly with a max travel distance of 125 meters is it two means of the aggressive second and third floor which is the third floor with all of them

so on the second floor police just have one address

Comments, questions about this project?

The only other thing, like looking at the plans, it was unfortunate that the deck elevations in each of the buildings were behind it. So that, I guess, would have been more of an answer.

Because I was also wondering about when you thought through, it looks almost like the plans don't land right on the decks, but are we dealing with a sort of water and snow runoff?

Yeah, I think there's a number of things happening three floors up in the building on the outside that we just have to take a look at in person directly. But certainly, no one has any desire to eliminate any kind of the core details or anything like that. So I think we look at the most delicate touch possible. even necessary amendment gutters and things like that might already exist up there. So we've got ways to manage it that don't involve having to kind of delete from the building.

Here, just take careful consideration of how you're managing that. The water, do you want to use the bathroom water?

Right. Right now there's currently open windows for the water.

The three-story deck is on the back of the building? Yep, it's on the back. You look at SP02, it has what we're calling a rear elevation. It's a side block, so it's a little bit harder to call the one elevation, I guess, to the rear.

And the third deck is not going to move over it? Not as broad an outcome.

So you're not going to close it? No. I think it would be ways to shield the entrance doors to the units. You know, whether it's just kind of the small door that exists now, or something just to kick water away from them, going out there and covering the entire ceiling deck. And the front elevation, how are they going to have two forms of the crest on the first floor? I believe they're not. That's why we would like to be pursuing the springs. In the event that the sprinklers were, you know, untamable for the project, would you pursue a way to make that second stair that's inside the building now viable?

Okay, but as it's drawn now, what you're seeking approval of today is the three-story deck that will require you to do sprinkling.

It seems to be, yes.

Of the whole. I don't know.

Mr. Reitinger? So the entire new, the stairs and the deckhead's all going to be new? Yes. Correct. The, with four apartments there, do you provide parking in each apartment? Is there enough for like four cars or is there going to be like one car per apartment?

Oh, no, they didn't go to the zoning board about the variance for the parking spaces. So we have five.

So the zoning board didn't see the variance they gave them. I thought they gave them variance for the square footage. Square footage, parking, and rear and front.

This board has transnational parking. This board has transnational parking. not to i can look at it instead we did um refer them to the zoning board because they did not meet the minimum right and that's what planning board needs to use you do but my understanding was that

because they were deficient in their number of spots .

Thank you. Okay, this is in . said there's no certificate of occupancy shown to be issued for the building or land use until the required off-street parking has been established or a variance has been granted.

They have a front line . So there are five spaces . Where are the ?

Do they all go on the back?

So we've got SK01, which was our site then. We've got two, there kind of was a U-shaped driveway that connected both streets. So parking would be in that driveway.

But there's no way, like if you're in this car in here, you're gonna go knock out somebody else's floor to get out and get the first car in there? Yes.

So the cars are kind of stacked in there, like you say, so last minute is the first time. So if I'm parked in, I got to go get it on time.

So presently, there's, so when the times are there, I park there to go, correct?

All the way through, because it's light.

So it's not...

You can go around the other parts.

That's super tight.

So I guess the only thing I have is that this would be provisional on the trigger system. That's all. That's all.

Yeah, the only thing I had in priority was this one. It's not a part of the closed air wall. It's an open, wooden, combustible air wall. I think there are going to be a lot of issues when you try to get it registered for that. I think it's going to be a part of the required rating. I believe you're going to have a portion been presented here regarding that. Are you going to change anything on this or are you going to change anything on that?

I'm going to say except the doors.

What's the plan for garbage?

Because you're going to increase the amount of garbage.

Are you going to do something different with the garbage?

This city needs us too, but it seems that we might have to see where the current tent is used, and then perhaps put some on the back or the side for the new tent.

We haven't thought through that thoroughly. You can see in this picture, it shows these are all flowing out.

And critters are going to get in there. These are . But still, it's the same site, right?

it's a cool picture if that's what's going on and it's not made up you know i haven't been i think like you guys have one spot where all the garbage is close you know some on the side some from you know so we can provide uh like a staging area for garbage on the long side of the building on the inside of this building

Does there have to be space on site for snow? Yeah. So you're saying they're just going to be pushed out into the street?

No, no.

I mean, if you have tents that are a little bit hurt, then you're just going to push to the side and there's ample space. But I guess this goes back to this whole parking thing. You're going to put four or five cars. You already said it's tight to get around. You're going to put three or four garbage totes. I mean, you're really snuffing a lot into that L-shaped driveway. I mean, four good-sized totes are deciding. Small cars, big cars, small cars. You know, say they're going to take into account the garbage totes.

Yes, I think the garbage could exist. in the north or south of the building where they work with these as things stare out the side of them. So you can kind of hug against the building and then drag it out for traffic. And I'd say in terms of Stonewall, So the snow removal probably doesn't seem to be an issue. Nothing would change it right now.

But I think, I don't know if it's applicable to this case, but I know there's much more interest and concern now with the separation of our sewer and our regular sewer and stormwater runoff and runoff into the street and that type of thing. So I just don't know. to me i guess you would just have to assume that everything's going to go across the street is that wouldn't all the stuff out to the same location say you get a foot of snow you've got to clear those five four or five cars out of there and kind of get the dumpsters out of there and then you've got to push the snow somewhere what i'm saying is you probably push it somewhere now that might be Because again, you cannot have a driveway now that's sloped towards the street. Now this one here is green. But I guess our concern, my concern is, I guess they would pack a lot into that driveway if you've already tested it's pretty tight to navigate now. So I guess that's what we're asking. You know, snow isn't thought about this time of year.

you know at some point it's going to be coming in and we're going to probably add even more cars but the biggest thing is now we can't go and improve something with conditions like this so we're going to have to see and kind of have to correct me if i'm wrong here that we've had issues in the past that we go with improve things with conditions that we're going to have to see a plan a revised here with the sprinkler plan and for this fairway, that it's all up to code before we can go to approve this. We're not against this. We can't go to approve this and say it depends upon a sprinkler being installed. That's a condition.

I mean, I would say the real condition is that all requirements of building code would be met. I would say the condition is that the uh requirements of the building flow would be met for the project and um i'm not disagreeing that sprinklers might be necessary but we have to have a thorough code to determine that they are so i don't think though i'm sorry aaron i thought he just said it's a three story you need two means of egress to each unit or

It's a brick mower system. You just said it.

That's a building department issue.

Because they're going to have to improve this wall. Well, we do. I don't want to improve anything if I don't know if there's going to be a brick mower system or not.

It won't get built. If one is required, it won't get built.

Well, I'm so glad you're part of me because... If you look at our code, 220-26D6, alternative off-street parking standards to those below shall be accepted by the planning board if the applicant demonstrates that such standards better reflect local conditions.

We've always had jurisdiction over the plan of our parking when it's part of a state-managed view, and the section of the code that you refer to has to do with new uses and new

Aren't alternative parking solutions something such as off-street parking or an agreement with someone else? But we're not proposing any alternative parking solutions.

No, we don't have enough.

But that seemed to be a zoning board issue.

Would we need to see a scale drawing of one large apartment there where the dumpsters are?

Where the snow removal is, where the dumpsters are, the actual parking spaces?

So the parking spaces are dotted in as 9 foot by 18 foot rectangles, which is a parking spot.

I mean, I guess those are the questions that we're asking.

I think what Adam was saying is that the tenants part and the reality is that there's rooms where you can navigate around the park cars to get in and out if you needed to.

Where are parking spaces going to be?

SP01. It's a little hard to see. It has to be light, depending on your frame.

But there are five 18-foot vehicles to dash in.

So they're right here.

I'm not sure you can't see these windows.

Now, the only question I have is going back

Bring that work from the wood in the neck. It's impossible with that with a straight person. I don't have the color with me, but I believe it was reprogrammed and may require a fire resistant construction and may require it to be fire rated against the house and with the sprinklers. So the issue I have is we're approving something that you have to back up anyways because it's going to be a completely different construction than you were proposing today. so beyond the cars and now we're talking about a physical part of the building that my opinion is right now that we can't approve because we don't know what we're approving because if it doesn't decode it's gonna have to be approved as something else so i'm not sure i respond um only because you're not sure if it needs to be a different type of construction right That's correct, but apparently there hasn't been enough overview done by your own mission to determine what hasn't been built. So I believe that we have to know what's going to be built prior to being able to prove it is going to work.

Okay. I mean, I'm fairly confident in type 3D construction, which is... to our structural walls. And actually, this is a Type 5, 5B, excuse me, it's all wood already, so there's no fire requirements or no fire protection requirements. Again, Type 5B construction, so I would presume that a combustible need to be addressed. It's the same as the wood is there inside. Absolutely correct.

Now we're referring to performance trends in that equation. Yeah, so now it's a Type 5b script. Eric, can you add to this, or clarify? i i call part of it the strippers for the decade yeah the strippers are required by the construction it's still required Right now we have a deck that has no fire weighting that's going to splinter it, and I just don't know how to approach this.

100% sure, I'd have to look. But I know the last debt we looked at, that was part of the means of egress. When we were looking at sprinkler systems, the debt still had to have a one-hour fire rate. The means of egress, the cerebral still had to have one hour to get the sprinkler. When it was not sprinkler, it took at least two. So again, 100% sure, I'd have to look. But I'm almost positive that we think the means of egress, especially even with the sprinkler system, still has to have a fire rate of two.

And that's my concern, is that we're moving over the cost of the back when there's a good chance, a very good chance, that ultimately that foot can't be built.

I think we need to see a plan with all of those things, you know, the buildings that we're looking at that we can see, you know, and once we determine what it needs to be, we'll see what it looks like, put the doors in there, and we'll see what's coming.

So just so I can make sure we get everything that has been asked for. Snow removal or snow, garbage staking. I'll make the parking spaces darker so everyone can see them. We'll do a more thorough code review, I suppose, on the deck itself as well as changing the lock and seeing things like that.

I'm sorry? Yeah, third floor. Be dressed on whether you're going to be stringers on that. Yep.

So I think that's all part of the code review. Yep. I guess there was a comment about, do we need to show window, door, elevation details that seem like newer?

Well, my question, I wanted to verify the idea was that we're going to leave those dorm rooms and store the dorm rooms in place. Yeah, that's probably .

So my question was, can you verify that those are the ones who are going to store the dorm rooms to the department? And yes, to Jamie's point, if it turns out that the stair has to be non-repressible, then it will be taken out.

Potentially, yes.

If that's where you plan to have your building started, then show it to us. So I want to just carry some code reviews with me. Is that something that was brought to this board, or is that something that was brought to the building department I'll say approval per se, but for review.

Okay, great. It's not a code review.

It's that if it looks like something may change, that will drastically change the look of what we see for us today. Sure.

Second. All in favor? Second. Thank you.

Next item on the agenda, Architectural Review AR26-003, Romeo, Foyota, Glens Falls, SCF 163 Broad Street, tax map number 309.7-12-20, represented by SRA Engineer Seat Architectural Review approval for the expansion of an existing commercial use.

You are. Good evening. from SRA . So the purpose of this project is to expand the service department at the Romeo-Toyota Broad Street for public demand. We're here for an architectural review. I'll just real briefly go through some site planning stuff, but just because the project did receive a variance from the zoning board for non-coverage. The lot is fairly well covered already. The variance was for existing 89.1% coverage and close to 93. So it's a small change, but it's still part of the season. Because stormwater on the site is completely infiltrated, it does not meet the site. That was a mitigating factor for that decision. The addition does meet all of the setback requirements. It was specifically designed to just meet that. We were tasked without losing any parking on the site at all.

That wasn't quite as possible. We're losing six spaces, but it still far exceeds the code requirements.

But a spare foot and up a lot is still at a premium just due to the use as the parking ownership. There is a stormwater pipe that is a city-owned infrastructure that passes through the property. That is going to have to be relocated in order to accommodate the condition.

We've been coordinating with Jeremy Schneidel and Phil Cullen on that.

After we get through planning board, zoning board, then we'll get down to details of satisfying their requirements. And since this is here for architectural review, I will hand this off to Trevor Flynn from Flynn Design Group, the architect on the project.

Trevor Flynn with Flynn Design Studio. Can everyone see the board as well? So if you're looking at this, we do have our existing drawings from Palm Jumper to the proposed elevations. So this is probably the most crucial part is you'll see on the proposed front elevation that you'll see from this point on is the existing dealership. And really all we're adding is these two bays to the right. And in general, we're keeping all the materials the same. We're just continuing the facade along, all the same glazing, lighting, signage. That is changing. All we're really doing is just extending the building. also from the right elevation too you'll see again we do this does protrude out slightly further this goes back on 45 and then we added another 16 feet or so on this portion again this existing it's really not changing that elevation so number two on sheet E201 is the existing elevation. We're basically extending and reusing that portion of the sky as we go up. And then apologies, these aren't going to be colored. But again, this section right at this service area, these two days is what we're combing out. And then you'll see it steps back as you go further back. And here's a better view of that from the property's east end street.

Anybody from the public like to comment on this?

We'll have two more broad days on that. and they know that it's part of the issue. So the only question I have is do you have any additional proposals?

No, at this time, we do not have any additional living. We're actually just adding a couple lights on. Should I call the wall back to it? Yes. And as far as your comment, you know, as you drive by, I drive by this a lot, it's kind of funny, you really don't even see most of the side of all the cars. So I think it would be a very minimal visual effect.

Eric, any issues with the car department? Just basics.

Yeah, everything that comes out of the code. Yes, it'll be tight. That's where we're losing the parking spaces.

Yes, it's still a tall footway.

Yes, they will match the existing lights on the building and they still have to provide enough movement in the area for security. Okay, so just want to make sure you're not throwing light on the elevation facing the road.

No, it will still be downward facing, but they do have to project far enough in the parking lot area, but only floodlights directly to the check point. Okay.

Question?

It fits in with what's there. They must be doing great business.

They want to be efficient. So more jobs in the area. Okay.

Yeah. I'd like to make a motion for acting as the Board of Architectural Review.

Hereby grant architectural approval of the project identified as AR-26-003, Romeo, Coyota, Glen Falls, West Seat, 163 Broad Street, tax cap number 309.7-12-20, for approval of the expansion of the existing

Second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Second plan review SB26-016 architecture review and architecture review AR26-004 Carols. llc lessee and one more street tax cut number three point zero point five dash two dash six site interview our potential review approval for the proposed renovation to the interior and exterior of the site including restricting the market lot site improvements and landscape

Okay, we'll go back.

The thing I want to point out is Shane Hawker right here from Finance Engineering on behalf of Carroll LLC for the site plan review portion of this application. So that's Allison passing those around. I brought with me this evening an updated site plan rendering exhibit based on the site plans that were submitted towards approval of this application. Following our last meeting, just so we don't have to go through the existing condition again, as I said to you at the site, compared to last month, different from the red banner you see before you and on the exhibit board behind me, our team had a call This guides my way and the city's design consultant for the East End Rising project to discuss the public plaza improvements that were raised at the last board meeting. During that call, we came up with a conceptual design that is shown on the rendering as well as the site plan submitted with the application. As part of that design, and as was discussed on the call, we are anticipating raising that plaza area one to two feet, as well as increasing it inside by approximately 200 square feet. So if the improvements on a new ADA So as you see before you, with the new clause area, again, it's conceptual. Our team is committed to working with the sentencing committee towards coming to a final design.

But as discussed in the last meeting, we did want to prepare at least a

hot of a concept of what it might look like. But included with the plaza improvements are two new connections to the public sidewalk. One provides a set of stairs and the other provides an ADA ramp with a handrail to provide accessible routes to the new plaza area. as well as a new decorative area light to provide adequate lighting for both pedestrian safety and security reasons for the site. Surrounding the New Plaza area, we anticipate and again we'll work with the East End Rising Committee on some low-lying shrubs to provide some landscaping but not totally screen off the area, as well as a landscaping offering area to screen the new improvements from the restaurant and vice versa. And then surrounding the new area and to tie that to existing grades, there will be some kind of seating wall or retaining wall with associated fall protection. Just that there is a great difference from lifting up that new closet. So with these improvements, we are still reducing the impervious coverage compared to existing conditions by approximately 380 square feet. Again, this is a conceptual design that we will work with the city planners and professionals to fund.

Thank you for joining us, working with the city, working with our community members.

Yeah, I mean, the big difference from what we've done in the last time and simply making that little closet street facing into a pocket park, you know, along the two coasts is now the longest circle, which, you know, I think everybody appreciates. And I guess I have one question about seat walls and retaining walls. What's the highest drop on retaining walls? If you're ready, you're burning that up, so. Yes.

At the page top side, the degree of difference is approximately two to two and a half feet.

So that will have, whether it's a fence or maybe a decorative rail or something there, required active foam retention.

Decorative railing on the seat wall or something like that?

Similar, we'll work with the city's professionals to finalize how that all comes together aesthetically.

to show the brick border around it and break that brick border with the same kind of brick as the brick that's along the sidewalk sounds good. Yes, that's something we could work with. Yeah, this is a conceptual design.

It's what it could look like, and we'll work with that as a design consultant.

Are there going to be benches provided for that yet, or is that?

which is sort of both ends. Are there plans? And I guess my bigger question is regarding the cans and the burger can you maintain that space or help with that?

That's something we can coordinate with the city as the design continues to evolve. We have this conceptual route to show that you know, the applicant does care and they are willing to improve the space and work with the city to make it something that's, you know, pleasing to all parties.

Amazing. Yes, exactly. Oh, and then you mentioned lighting, obviously you need lighting for safety, and I was wondering what kind of lighting you were thinking if you had to light the ramps and the stairs and the space itself.

Yeah, and that's something I think from an aesthetic perspective will work as part of the overall design process. You know, on that space, you know, what the fixture looks like can still make sure that it flies out of the way, you know, for that space and all that accessibility.

I mean, I would think that because it's sort of being conceptualized as a little part that's inviting. We're going to get a lot of those streetlights anytime, but it's safe enough to just leave inviting news.

Yeah, we'll follow through, something like that.

Yeah, it's so nice to be able to walk down there and have a little chicken sandwich and sit there. It is still Burger King, Chihuahua. Yeah, I'm a original chicken.

But it is, there's no path directly from that to Burger King. This is its own thing.

Yes, it will be separated. No, I mean, I think it's adding real estate to people's questions.

I didn't have any other questions on that element of change. So I guess we'll talk about .

It's anticipated to be low-lying shrubbery along Lent Street, which we will work with the city to come up with a planting list to, you know, again, increase the aesthetics and soften the hard lines of the restaurant as part of that space.

It sounds like what I'm hearing here is that you want us to approve this and conceptually you're going to work with the city all pretty much across the board on this.

That's correct. So we've had a lot of criteria that we've talked about with making it so it can all be seen and not go sitting in there, accessible. You guys have gone out of your way to really work with us on this. but i think what we're looking for now is to get it so you guys can move ahead and then work conceptually with our city planners on what was actually going to be done yes and this is a conceptual layout and as it continues to evolve and change and work with the city at you know professionals to really find all the steps

I guess just to build on what's already been said, I guess my question is, is it still too far from the street? I mean, one of the problems with the existing site is that it's not clear what it is. Is it public? Is it private? It's sort of a no man's land, which is why, at least. So I just want to make sure we're not You're creating the problem by making it not clear what this is. Yeah, but I mean, I'm almost wondering if you bring it closer and make it more part of the street scene than you make it look like.

Yeah, and I think a portion of that may be due to the existing access points where the existing accessible route to the Plaza space is actually through the burger king front driveway so it visited the site it is tucked away more so off of glen street whereas under the new conceptual design the access points are shifted from being almost within the burger king site to immediately off of the glen street sidewalk so the intent behind the location of the access points was to promote the space and offer a welcoming group rather than having an access point being pushed up tucked away behind some perimeter landscape.

Yeah, but I think we all want to improve public safety by improving visibility. Visibility would be further improved just a little bit.

But that doesn't mean something that just doesn't make sense. but it is still owned by Berger. Yes. So when the architect asks to maintain it, Berger then maintains it.

We can, you know, we'll work with the city towards some kind of, you know, this agreement or, you know, these procedures that falls under, you know, Berger's responsibility that something will work at the same time.

Well, we're not taking over, the city's not taking ownership, right? I mean, you're working on a project to build this little plaza kind of quality apartment, but it's owned by Burger King, therefore it would have to be painted by Burger King, right?

I mean, I know you're working with the city at the junction to design this, but what the city is looking for, we're not accepting ownership. So maintenance of this, the trucks, this shoveling, that will all have to be on purpose. Am I wrong?

You're right. I would say you're right.

Unless, I don't know, I haven't been going to Payson or any of these, and that would be better, kind of like some sort of inter-agency, what's not inter-agency, but you don't get agreement with Burger King as far as agents. I would think the landscaping, the shoveling, that all needs to be taken care of. Well, and the East End group, they're like volunteers. They're volunteers. they have no authority to connect the city to any type of maintenance or legal requirement to maintain this.

I'll just say that Joe, the last time I heard from her.

I have no idea. I don't think anything that I don't hear. But I think the signer, she signed it and said it's like, this is private property, right? She said that, but it's not in terms of this design issue. it is i know there's a lot of people who deal with that leader but i think to approve it we have to say

I'm not sure we need all of that stuff after, you know, to talk to, you said, right?

I think it has to be done in the same way. Well, unless something is done differently, would it be by default the fact that it was their property that was paid on in those many years? Yeah. That's the way it's been for four years. It's done a great job of addressing our concerns from the design point of view.

That's my concern. If you go down there and look at what's there now, it is not that big a thing. Right. So the current Burger King moral piece, as far as we're talking about in that place, is not a big thing by Burger King. It's in deplorable conditions. sidewalks are broke cracked the retaining walls are getting in um there's conditions with what's currently there right so if we get a new product they don't show that's private property they don't have a shovel right it doesn't have to be i think you know we're getting into something else something that Do we really need to worry about it? You know, I mean, it hasn't been maintained in four years. That comes up with the code issue.

That's the code enforcement issue.

I think they're working with us to design this, to create something really nice here that's more accessible to the public, but in the end, it still murdered these property. And if they don't want to shovel in wintertime, Go to sign up, say close to 100.

I think our initial discussion about this case was to address all the concerns about the site, the accessibility, the darkness, the lighting concern. So as it stands, I recommend a simple design of what

can be done at the baseline level.

The decent rising project, the timing is quite different than what the applicant is looking for.

So if it's approved as it is, and they make these improvements, and then later down the line design is done at decent rising, that would be an additional I mean, the rest of our concerns regarding that space .

My feeling is it's still further from the problem, so it is their responsibility.

well i think that i don't think we can judge this project past performance obviously the code was never enforced before and like i say this is this is private property 99 We call it the bunker area where it's all there. That's all going to be gone. So I think, you know, we can't go back and say, okay, for the past 25 years it's been horrible. And a safety hazard, things like this, we just have to you know, come up with a better solution for it, but then we gotta make sure the city does maintain, you know, inspection. Because, I mean, again, it's private property, and I think, other than a little bit of a jotting, 97% of the area that we're concerned in is burned. So, to me, that's almost like a co-reformist enforcement action after the fact.

No, actually, I'm in favor of that. It's a huge change. The only thing I agree on for the maintenance issue are, I believe, in the design elements, the easier it is to maintain, or the better off it is to maintain it. The one that's there now, and what's still there, is a very difficult to maintain. And all the sidewalks, the water problems, there's a ton of issues with design elements that make that difficult. So I think the design element should go into this one. I think the simpler they are, the easier they would be better for the money. I think from a visual perspective, for the money to go by the city and maybe it's issued for a learner.

The other thing is too, I'd like to bring up the fact that I personally appreciate the fact that you changed the design detail on the roof. You did bring up. That's a different. I know it's a different thing, but. Okay, so that's the whole, that's the next. All right.

i appreciate where we are right now i know it's a lot more work on you it's amazing that we've gone a month here for some extent a problem for the city for 40 years it's still a private piece of property that is going to be better for all of us again the maintenance stuff comes up as a building codes issue code enforcement so that's not um how do we improve this without without conceptual drawings

I mean, it does say low line truck, so.

I mean, whoever does the motion, this little plaza area is surrounded by red-bricked, matched sidewalk from what I've seen. And it says there's a closed seating wall that's going to be a decorative light, three and a half foot high wall protection railing, two sidewalks for entrance, one ADA compliant.

Sounds like a motion.

So those blocks have different color finishes.

So depending on the product, they have different colors.

It's showing gray color here.

Is that kind of what you're thinking? Currently, yes. But should we want a different color or a different product?

i mean i i hate saying it was better than what was there before but that's not it it's way beyond what was there before um

Pretty good.

Part of the site then, it was also the driveway.

Right.

The corner wall.

Right. Is that really changing much? From the last meeting, that has not changed. The provisions of the plan were with respect to the public closet area. So not much has changed, or nothing has changed since the last meeting. But under the existing conditions, is a Burger King restaurant with a single lane drive-through under, as one of the proposed improvements, a single drive-through lane. is to remain with drive-through equipment being updated at broad current with current brand standards. So it's staying the same drive?

That is correct. Okay.

Second? It wasn't clear from the plans, but left and right of your entry drive, there's the display sidewalk slabs. Currently, improvements are shown. um as part of the public access sort of storefront are you referring to as part of the site work we can look to improve those areas as well and just bring it back to the existing conditions And I have a couple questions about the accessible parking. Your general notes have the minimum parking limit at 9 feet, but you're showing that the accessible parking spaces are 8 feet.

It doesn't need to be changed to 9 feet wide?

Those are compliant with the ADA code. The 9 feet is for our non-accessible standard parking spaces. Sorry, ADA parking spaces are... The ADA says the minimum of 8 feet in the city says the minimum of 9 feet. is our understanding that that applies to the regular market spaces, not the accessible ones. All market spaces are.

And then matching. Are there now some of the parking spaces that are also already for blind area ? What did you say?

I don't see an exception. And then there's also, like, to the left of the accessible spaces, there's an area that strikes sort of like an access aisle, but there's no access off of that.

Yeah, so that's not the designated access aisle for the two spaces. That is just no parking.

to the mark that actually came in.

So this sort of just sort of looks like an exercise with just pulling the curve into there and making it slide along? I'm just wondering if someone thinks it's an exercise to go there, it might occur.

It just seems like a strange leftover. Yeah, that makes sense. That's something we can discuss with the applicant and show that they can apply at their party.

And then the last thing, it's great how the ADA parking signage, there's like a penalty Yeah, so that's for the ADA code to find information. That's more than most of the signage.

I don't think we have anything here today.

So. Just prior to my ADA, I would say we should tell them not to put it on there.

Yes, so that leftover striping area comes. I would like to make a motion that the wellness and health planning board acting as board of site planning review, hereby grant site plan approval for the project carol's llc lessee of the one horn street hex mat number 310.5-2-6 would be renovation to the single wide variety in addition to the conditions that the plaza park area will be surrounded with the red brick seating area As designated, we'll have a metal, black metal railing, gray block, two ramps, one with stairs, one APA compliant. with low-lying trucks so that there's accurate sight to the street. The sidewalks will be repaired and the driveway must be repaired as we need code. And we configured the impact parking spaces to be compliant with the City Code of 19 and the ADA as presented at the meeting today, June 3rd, 2026. All in favor?

Aye.

All in favor? Aye. All in favor?

Aye.

All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. and the changes that were submitted were to take the eyebrow and LED strip off of the front, and we replaced it with recessed outlets and a cornice that mimics the cornice on 12-line standing. The front portion of the tower on the main entrance and the drive for the tower has been varied, so we have a varied bullet pack.

I'm going to bake one of those.

Leah?

Again, if you guys went back and looked at buildings in the area, I have a couple questions about design. on the drawings, on the elevations, and I think on the plan, you called out that this will be a home of the water sign. What does that mean?

That is what they call that wall. Home of the water is the wall with the frame. It just looks like the home of the water.

So it's not, you're not putting an additional sign onto this, a darker colored wall?

So we're not going to go any further there. Not on that elevation on the front is the bird. The bird is on the other side.

Right.

But yeah, I'm going to do it there. Yes. Yes. So. And then you gave some. And on this sheet, down here it says, example of downlights and . Is that? That was with the first . OK. So that's not something that . Gotcha. And then on the drive-thru side, just to clarify, right now it's a pass-by drive-thru. There's that metal shed where it comes down. That's going to be ripped off, and then it will just be on the street door, right?

Yes. Question about the bun freezer, the future bun freezer that's going on the site plan, please. What is that, and what is that?

So shown on the second planet is the future location for a potential bun freezer, which is a freestanding freezer, so to speak, should the store need one eventually. For now, we are identifying this potential location for the installation. Should the store require it?

And that will come in from .

Okay, so we're approving that as something on the site in terms of when you guys buy this fundraiser, you're not coming in and we're going to put it on the website. Correct. Those look like lights on the streets now.

The pole lights are existing to remain. This is the outside lighting that's working.

When I saw his store, I thought I saw a new pool, but I just didn't have the store.

That was a detail identifying the type of white that he utilized within the plaza area.

Oh, within the plaza area. That is correct. So it was placed around the... to make sure that it's there now.

That is a sample feature of a narrative miracle. Right.

And as far as the signs on the exterior, essentially, it's similar to what is there now, except a couple of the walkers don't want to be there anymore. And it's the same HEPA panels that you brought in before? Yes. I mean, I think it's a great improvement. It's a great improvement. Are you changing windows as well?

Some of the windows are replaced . If they drive through windows, you can do windows themselves .

The lighted signs, I know that this came up last time and there were questions about whether they've been on the right and which may be added to that, how bright they are, so questions about that.

Did we know that yet?

Are the signs on 24 hours? That is a question. Okay. I mean in terms of working with very flat on the building, and that we can add creativity to it, and articulation, materials, and designs on and off of the top. So we'll be good with that.

Sure.

Sure. Sure.

My notes from last time reflected that the lighted signs were beyond 30 hours of operation.

Is that something, yeah? They're open online, certainly.

For those who need a walk.

Sorry, I'm stuck.

No, they are open, but they're open online parts. Okay, they're on. Ms. Byrd?

I'm just looking at the back of the cell phone and it seems like that's pretty much what we have. And I do think you guys are doing a great job. But this is still sort of a spirit of warehouse, that south end of the building.

Yeah, and towards the arena. Yeah.

And I just feel like, you said last time, this is a great opportunity to really make this something

The problem here is you don't have that in this building.

It's surrounded, you know, it's nice, but there's 6,000 people in the arena, you know, on this side. It kind of looks like the rear end of the building. They really don't have that where it's in some other spots, you know. So you could make that . I mean, I think you've done an outstanding job with the rest of it.

It really is.

Is that going to be new, or is that existing? Because I think what he's asking, and if this is going to be new, why couldn't you extend it to a wooden platform? Is it going to ensure it's not going to bring that whole building into existence? It doesn't say whether it's applied or not.

Technically, it can't be changed. What they've done is they've taken their corporate design and tried to defend what you asked for.

Right. And they've done a great job.

You get maybe some of that orange or something.

And maybe the roof launch. I guess I just was hoping that when we were talking about pushing around downtown, we would get something with some really phenomenal roof launch that would be faster, with the experience that we never do in real life. But the top of it, I thought, could be really sort of neat. So this is definitely nice. I really like this. It's an improvement. But I'd love to see that extended back as well. They do it for both.

What? Or anything with color consistency all the way across. Make the wood. We're going to have wood all the way to the back. Yeah, I agree with that. And then the roofline, too. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It looks like a cinder block.

Like Rachel said, if that wood was carried on through and its consistency was good.

Well, with the black ones, at the top, it sets it off a little more. Oh, the cornice ends.

No, no, I agree with you on that.

Are you talking to the right of the main entrance?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because this is the first minute. Much change on that. I feel like that is just a big problem. So...

I think that would also be on the back side of the building as well.

My home is, again, we're in the early days.

This is the old one. You go to the new one. It's up there. It's the same. No, that's not the newest.

Here's the old one. Here's the old one.

Is there a new set of exterior elevations? Yeah, yeah, it's all the same.

That's different than what we have.

It is different, yeah.

And that looks better. That does look better. So you have that point of importance. Well, we added it in later. Yeah. I don't know why I want to get any part of it. No, we got this. We got this. It's all the importance. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's anything. That one's not right. That's not the base. That's the old one. You're okay. It's the second one. We all said we have that. We have it. Okay. Okay. Okay.

That, so the one .

. .

So it's one that I would like to do today. What is yours?

Because it shows the home of the water wall. And actually on the south side. So here's a plane like ours. It's the 20th couple. It's what we do now. So I wasn't speaking about that because I didn't see any of that. Yeah, that's a perfect team. Really? So that's why we always speak about it, because we just have enough of you.

Yeah, that's different than others.

That doesn't care. No, it doesn't. Yeah. Oh, it looks great. But it's also, it doesn't sound as great on the radio. On the radio, yeah, it sounds great. It's not going to sound as good on the radio. It's not going to sound as good on the radio. It's not going to sound as good on the radio. It's not going to sound as good on the radio. It's not going to sound as good on the radio. So where's the mirror on this? We have a little technical issue here.

I think a lot of what I've seen with the 501, they're laying something on the back end.

And I say the back end, but there really isn't a back. And we have the arena there. It's a huge thing in our area.

but it's just gray and um you know like i said there's one thing about the spot that's why it's such a good spot because there's no downside for this building at all there's people so okay so i take back my concrete now that i have this but the only thing that i would

would say, my opinion would be, if this just matched sort of the thickness of that line there, I think that would look very nice. That looks very nice and much better. So the cornice, the cornice is the same across the whole side? No.

Oh, you have to mix it up. Do you see how Burger King, the Burger King back right there, I think over there, she's the same. But what about the fact that you guys are all happy to be able to face the arena? You don't have that. You don't have this? 82.1.

You should add that there. Yeah, it's right there. It's the top one right there. I know, but that's... No, that's it. No, that's it. It's not. No, it's slightly different. It's your name here. This one has something here. Yeah.

So, I like this better and stuff.

But still, it's Southern. You like that better, but it's still just gray on that end.

We've talked about . I don't do that. I don't follow it, but I like it better.

What do you think? The roof line, I can give it to the color change and the material change in the back end of the building. Just that one, I mean, that's how they feel. Yeah, along the roof as well. Changing the material and the color of the back side of the main entrance elevation and the rear of the building.

That's going to improve the design.

Yeah, just to move something there.

Yeah.

Are you saying the mirror of the building is the drive-thru?

What's that? No. No. So you're talking about the end of the building.

The start of the arena. Yeah. You look at it.

You look at it. Yes. Yeah. I also want to say this one, too. I think this building is very serious. Yes. I don't know if this is how it existed with the real illusion coming out. Yeah. What did they do? Just so I know. Hold on. Yeah. I think it just didn't come. And just, we've got it in our email log, right? From the barcode. With this lead assertion. I know, but I think that I can't give you that. I don't like the pattern. I'm sorry. I like the pattern. 5 to 13. Well, they're all named.

That's the problem.

They're all named 5 to 13.

Except this one has option A written down in the corner, and mine is not. Yeah, mine is not. No, that's the one I got. This is the latest version of this exhibition.

I believe that this one is the latest.

No, that's not the latest.

Is that a little block of the same color?

I understand that they're different, but the one that .

Is the one on that board? Well, we can only .

So if they want to come back to the natural drawing that they want to present, that's what's going to happen.

Because we've got a lot of confusion right now.

They're all marked May 13. How could they all be May 13?

Well, they're all different. We can, don't you think that we can use that as a starting point, because that's what he is presenting as the final design, and then say, yes, we like it, no, we don't like it, yes, we like it, but make the coping and open the gray area, that's why it's the coping on the other side, because that was kind of, I mean... What are the other differences? Oh, there's root line differences.

Yeah, this is what I was . Yeah, I know. That's why it's too confusing. So I guess you said the owner signed off on that version, but this version was presented. Right. Can we say . I don't know how that got into the mix.

Yeah, I think that was emailed for reception purposes.

So you're not closing ?

But since we're talking about something that's not a real expense, it's that aluminum composite roof, right? Yeah.

That piece, I feel like you answered it.

Yes, we can do that. You know, that's not a $100,000 question. I mean, that's not the case. To me, it kind of completes it. It almost looks like you stopped short there. This is too confusing to have all these drawings.

I think we should table this and get this organized and have that we like that one drawing there that was submitted i don't care where it came from but it was submitted to us it got emailed to us and we have a revision to come back you know can i get a motion to table this sure

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Thank you. if you want to come back with one that looks more like the other one. This, I know, this is the one submitted in your packet that we were reading. The one that we had digitally.

We'd like alterations to be made. And I think it's an option. so that was an option along the way again thank you for working with us on this it's a big thing for us and i'm not trying to give you a lot of time you just gotta do it All right. Move as to site plan review, SB 26-019, Vicki Graber, manager of 197 Glen Street, 2nd floor, tax not found under 302.20-30-17. Seats approval for establishing. Sounds like a two on a mostly short-term rental.

Hi, I'm Vicki Rieger, and I'm here on behalf of myself. I use two of the existing apartments, and I'm going to call them . So I use it from state rentals and state rentals . It's permitted through the county for short-term rentals. The building already is on the annual inspection cycles, everything like that. And I'm here to hopefully get the new permit required by the city of West Falls for short-term rentals.

Okay. We haven't done anything to be part of this, or exactly, because, you know, I mean, the furniture, so, you know. Have they been rented in the past, or? It's how long they've been, I actually, I've built this around this for over 10 years.

I did the original on the interior of the school, and they didn't have it. a couple cycles of long-term rentals. There's no parking for that. There's no parking. I, after waiting over a year, now have two apartments left, so that I can go to the city for it.

Okay.

Is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this? Okay. Mr. Morris? We always ask, and today our representative from the fire department here, Dave, you know, if there's a cold day, if you want to comment on this, because we have a few of these coming up tonight, we have a couple of these, so just make sure people are from out of the area.

So it will be in seconds. You also have the . All the numbers are correct. The exits are clearly located. The only thing I had was the . You're the . Just take them out of the box and we're ready to go. That's . Besides that, with no changes, it's very simple .

It will be inside the portal. So if this is the evacuation plan that gets posted within the units, it was a little confusing to be called a shadow line system. Because I think it would be easier if it's an emergency evacuation plan.

That would be a little simpler to be .. I have a 42-inch printer. And I'm waiting for today.

to see if there were any changes, and then I'm going to log out. As long as the pledge will refer to some of the things that you did.

No comments. I just have a little question. I don't know if this is a panel to ask. What is the quiet hour for restaurants that are all on blood streets? I mean, I know 10 o'clock is noise, quiet hour.

That's my street. I mean, they're open till three.

So like the barns, the barn and that way down?

I think they have to have the doors closed by 11. I mean, for every team of purposes, but beyond that, that's really the only, they can have any exterior, you know, speakers. Do you have one of the calls? Police department. Okay. That's the worst that could happen.

Is this space empty now? And it's going to be renovated in the new parking lot? There's a parking lot?

No, there is a parking lot.

And it's also to do with additional off-street parking. Is it available at 12 Pine Street? Right.

That's the next one, number one. but yeah two blocks over I know the building you won't find and I always make sure I leave extra space and if somebody is going to bring more than one car they ask me at a time so you know I can plan for that You know, every once in a while you'll get someone from the public and state only park in the foot of the avenue, parking wherever they're not supposed to. So I have to make sure I have a contingency. Okay.

And Paul Pine has worked on that. That's a little of your law firm. Yes.

Jimmy Thomas. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.

I have a question. I don't have issues in the city. Not being able to stay downtown.

I don't think we have as many people working on it.

Is there a speaker? No.

I would like to make a motion to approve the motion. We're acting as a board of site plan review. Hereby grant site plan for SP 26-19 50 survivor, I'm sorry, manager of 197 Glen Street, section four, tax map number 302.20-30-17, for the establishment of two unposted short-term rental units with conditions that all compliance with fire codes and then the electrical evacuation plans in between to maintain any permits as required by Warren County or City of Lawrence Halls as presented at the meeting of today's date, June 3rd, 2026. Second.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. next item on the agenda jake gregor is that correct order 12 minus you tax math number 302.20-27-14 c school for establishment two posted short-term revenues Is this correct?

Yes. No. I'm sorry. These are also the same permanent through one county. I write to the anaerobic theater for any traveling nurses as much as they want to the hospital. And then I also do short-term medicals. And I'm looking for, you know, to get the that's required. So I know I have to move the signature kind of boxes. Oh, that's all right. And again, I'll blow up my evacuation plan there so that it's a lot larger, et cetera.

Are you organized? I'm showing eight parking spaces, and there truly are.

I've never had eight cars there. I don't even think I've ever had eight cars there. I think most everyone has six. So.

Still here?

No.

I have no questions. It looks like you're, again, very, very nice. I know it's a building. So, like I said, I just had a question.

Mr. Chair? No, no questions. Questions. No questions. No questions. All right. I have a question. Sure. I would like to make a motion for the Council to amend the Board of Actions and the Board of Seconds to name the people hereby for the grants.

Seconded by the approval for the project identified as being bigger, over 12 pine trees, taxed at number 302, 120-27-14, seeking approval for a short-term rental as outlined at the meeting of June 3, 2026.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Thank you. All right. Site plan review SB 26-021 Iron Gate Center Inc. to Iron Gate Center tax map number 309.27-4-4.1 seeks approval to expand on-site parking between newly purchased properties to be demolished along the way.

If you've lost any of your records, my name is Ethan Hall. I'm the principal over at Houston Hall Architecture. My name is Brad Whitwell.

I'm the property manager for Iron Gate Center. The drawing that I have on the front board here is the existing site plan. The area that we're talking about was under section number eight, Division Street. The intent here is that those two buildings, the demolition permits, the asbestos permits, or asbestos remediation, it's all been taken care of already. The permits have been issued by the building department. We're just waiting for approval to do that so we can get those data back. The expansion would be from this back parking lot. We would utilize one of the existing driveways, widen it out to a 1.4 foot dry lot, and then connect it back to the existing parking that's already there. We have a tech base and two drive-offs to take care of the school park. The existing garage is going to stay on number 8. The rest of the area is still storage in this new parking lot. And if anybody's a member of Iron Gate like I am, you've never been over there. My parking space is a traditional 24 parking space. It's going to be a real help. We looked at it and provided a night before just to make sure. There are some existing lights that are in the parking area right next to the parking area now. And you can still see between the two buildings. And even though there's no electricity on either of the buildings, you can still see through. So once those buildings are gone, the lighting that's there will be sufficient to take care of that. So we're not going to have to do that. We need all the criteria for the zoning, for cultural protection, for moving as far as lot coverage and things like that. So, in other areas it's required, and seriously, it's not going to improve.

No green space or... The coverage required, the minimum percent permeable is 30% for every three point. Okay. Almost 30%. Would anyone from above like to comment? Mr. Lawrence?

Um, I guess the question, um, if they're relying on dry wells for stormwater management, does the city require percolation tests, or is it just the city going to take advantage of stormwater?

So, we've done percolation tests for the other portion. We're doing, um, the addition to, uh, desperate troubles right now.

And it worked us when we did that one.

from the system that comes out, this is a sponge over here.

It's as deep as you can get sand, and there's no ground water on the issue over there. So are you just recaving from the existing driveway? I'm trying to understand the extent to which you're recaving. Is that just the extent?

Okay, so we're starting from the existing edge of where the blacktop stops right now and this new portion will be up to the apron. The apron will be an awkward apron in accordance with the city's requirements. So there's no words to the left of that. And then...

The tree trees that are out in front right now are going to stay, so that shouldn't be a problem. Any additional ones just to try and mitigate for this, like where you now have, you know, It's just a reframe to Vision Street.

We currently have a tree backyard here that could stay. We could easily plant a couple of trees back there.

My plan for the facilities is some green space, a couple of trees for work, a couple of picnic tables, both our staff to utilize during lunch and breaks, and for patients to utilize when they're waiting for someone who might be in the office during winter.

Those picnic tables can be moved to the desk, snow storage, until I can call it out.

I guess the question, though, was are we willing to add some more trees in between the side walls?

The city won't let me add jobs.

If they want to put in a tree, I wouldn't have to. I'll have to have the city plant. Two new trees right down here.

Two new trees. The tree that is in front of the gate is absolutely beautiful. Those trees that are out there in front of the two houses .

I don't know if we can add a tree between the sidewalk and the street, but the sidewalk is .

I have no issue.

I like the fact that you're keeping the wand.

When you're keeping that green face, I think that's a good idea in painting the whole thing. So I appreciate you keeping the green space.

um so there's no trees being removed like you say there's a tree there no i think the city has a plan don't they basically go back and

and they're reevaluating where trees are needed to kind of fill in the holes.

When the tree that was over here on the existing parking lot, it was deemed dangerous.

They took that down and they planted two trees along there. Trees are working across tall, more ornamental trees. They're doing very well. Like I said, these trees are established. They're old trees.

I don't think we could fit a tree in there, but the whole, now the whole street is lined with trees.

Those are in the parking lot.

And they're more like a shrub.

They're right against the house right there, right against the porch.

They're right on the corners of the porch. And those aren't good yet. Those are more shrubbery. They're not tall trees.

The pine tree in the back would also stay and plant another tree in the back of this house to aesthetically offset it. And that's where my car might be. And then again, contact the city and see if they want to do something more on the site.

So there's a curb coming out.

There's two curb cuts coming out. There's one curb cut that will go away completely. The existing curb cut at 6 Division Street will actually be widened. It'll come out and be widened to be a 24 foot drive out so we can get in and out.

When the one that comes out, do you have to repair the sidewalks?

the sidewalk shouldn't happen if it does need to be they'll take care of that it will depend on what happens when they pull it out and we also have a firefighter right there just off from that curb you're expanding the second

okay thank you so this is all based on the consolidation of these three bottles okay

So can we not do that?

It's in the process of being done.

It just doesn't follow the paperwork with the county. We're still going to have to have a meeting for the whole property on subversion, correct? This is all new property. This is something right now.

It should come.

But it doesn't stop us from approving this, or not.

No, I don't think it does. I would say one thing to consider is it's not a type two. It isn't unlisted based on the fact that they are doing the law of merger and the demolition of the houses. So when you do the secret, we should be considering all the impacts, including the merger ones.

So that is one action.

You see her?

This is over. It's in short form, part two. Will the proposed action create a material conflict with the adoptive planning standards or regulations? No. Will the proposed action result in a change in the use or intensity of the system? No. What's the following effect? Will the proposed action impair the character quality of the existing community? Will the proposed action not depend on the CDA? Will the proposed action result in an adverse change in the existing level of traffic or affect the existing infrastructure for mass transfer by people walking? Will the proposed action cause an increase in the use of energy and fails to incorporate reasonably available energy conservation renewable energy opportunities? Will the proposed action impact existing public private water supplies? Will the proposed action impair the character and quality of important historical, archaeological, architectural, or aesthetic resources? Will the proposed action result in an adverse change to natural resources? No. Will the proposed action result in an increase in the potential for erosion, flooding, or drainage problems? No. Will the proposed action create a hazard to environmental resources or human health? No. Mr. Chairman, based on those who could take a motion for a negative evaluation, I would determine that it is not introduced.

You want me to make a motion? Yes, please.

I would like to make a motion that the Board of the Planning Board hereby accepts lead agency status for the project known as... Iron Bay Center, to Iron Bay Center, tax map number 309.27-4-1.1, the expansion of on-site parking to newly purchased properties.

The board has determined that the action to be an unlisted action.

The board has reviewed part two, short form, environmental assessment form, and upon the documentation and discussion, issue a negative declaration. so i would like to make a motion that what is called planning board after that, or the site plan review, hereby grant a site plan approval for the project identified as Iron Gate Center to Iron Gate Center and pass that over to field 99. 7-4-4.1 for approval of on-site parking in the two newly purchased properties along Division Street. With the conditions that the curb cut is being removed from one of the houses, number eight, number eight, any repair to the sidewalk will be completed by the applicant. The curve cut at number six is going to be expanded, subject to the merger of the lots and the proper maps being filed and reported in Orem County. That's presented at the meeting of today's date, June 3rd, 2026. Second. Second.

All in favor?

Aye. Aye.

Great, thank you very much, appreciate your time.

Site plan review, SB26-022, meeting results, LLC, Leslie and Nyberg Street, tax map number 303.17-16-8. Seek site plan review approval for the proposed renovation of the first floor commercial space for a wellness spa and massage therapy. You are?

I proceed in my prayer. Don't start your question. There's nothing to the exterior of the building. It's just the interior. There is two walls that are not permanent walls that we want to take down.

We can create three different private rooms and a bathroom.

Is there anybody from the public that would like to comment on this application? Yes, ma'am. Are there any signage changes?

Currently, I don't have any signage that I'm going to be putting out. I only do clients by appointment only. But once I can decide on what I want for signage, I will look at that on vacation as well. OK. Nina, you had something to add?

I have no comments. OK. Thanks. Just a clarification on the floor plan that was submitted to our fees.

It's essentially the existing walls that are up. We want to just take those down and actually restructure the floor plan to create rooms.

Otherwise, it's just an open space. Basically, yeah. OK. So if I'm oriented right, you're putting the new restroom Yes.

If you ever go over to that space, it's very oddly shaped. There is two apartments. There's an apartment on the second floor and the third floor. And sort of, let's see if I can find it. Near treatment room three, there is like a section that actually holds all the electricity utilities that go through. So to get the ABA and the other two treatment rooms and a private session room to the specifications for your table and the weapon and things like that is really the only way to map it out based on the shape of the building. It took me three weeks of mounting it out to make sure that there was space for everything. That was my biggest concern, and my biggest fight was not wanting the bathroom there, but it really is the only way to accommodate that space.

So we can do this right out of the window?

Yes.

Well, there won't be a shade there.

It's not a storefront. It's not a storefront. It's a small, small window. It's facing the bridge here, right? Yes, but if you go on a bridge right across the street here, you can't see into that building. There's a shade there. Yeah.

I mean, it seems like it's a bit natural there. There should be, like, a little blockade. There will be, like, a little... Ugh.

I don't know.

I'm a plant girl, so I wanted to just have plants that you could see from bridge coming in, but really trying to map out that space for those type of rooms and the way the electrical goes through that building was the only way I could finagle all of that. But also, treatment rooms are private and be quiet. So when you have somebody coming in and they need to use the bathroom, you're not going to interfere with those other treatment spaces by walking through the building or through the space either. So it doesn't work and does work all at the same time. How many employees? Currently, it's just me. Yes, I would like the idea of bringing someone else in. I do currently travel for a New York law enforcement assistant program also, so I travel throughout the state working with first responders that deal with trauma. And because that takes away for about a week every other month, it would be nice to have somebody else in there to supplement some of that income. But currently, it's just me. Yes. That's all.

I don't think I have any issues with plants in the background.

No, I think this would be a great addition to the future.

Thank you. You said these walls, these temporary walls, do they go along with this?

The current walls?

Yeah, they're just temporary walls. They're very thin, so they definitely have to come down so that there is more soundproofing between those.

No, this is coming downtown. I don't have issues with it.

Can I say a question? Fire? Oh, there it is. Okay, I just stepped on it. Note that it will require fire inspection, it will require opening. I thought I could see all of them all of a sudden, but also, do you have anything that you can smoke through the paper, like, all gas things that you can smoke through? Do you know if those are crankers? They're just crankers, yes. Ah, they're just crankers. Just saying. because that's the other question they may be there but we have other buildings that they're there they're just a system i know that they're i don't know correct okay um

I'd like to make a motion that does follow the planning board action that the board cite and review hereby grant second hand approval for the project identified as meeting the results. L.L.C., lessee of 9-1-1, tax map 9-3-0-3-1-7-1-6-8, in the following position, but they are in compliance with the requirement of regulations, as presented at the meeting of June 3, 2026.

Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Second plan review, SB 26-023, Daniel Breyer. Yes. No. So he pulled the entire upgrade. Yes. All right. Review of lighting testing. SB 24-004, 24-04, lighting plan testing. Thank you.

There's no one here for this, should we just move forward? I think, yeah. You're happy with what you submitted?

You said you made a few changes.

I didn't have two changes that were really necessary, providing the cut sheets of the utility sheets.

And then the original plan had a wooden light post provided that changed the stage.

did you look this over i did yeah so he has a metal light bulb and then there was a change there was an update from the original light and submitted and had dark areas you know this device so it looks as if he's basically and half these fixtures are existing anyway. So I don't know if somebody went out there with a light meter to determine if that's what the light levels are, but then he also has some new light which is showing everywhere. And then he submitted this decorative, you know, these lanterns at the entrances and their LEDs, right? My only comment to that is that their LEDs are just making more, you know, with gold, gold restraining the wall. There was a, so this room you showed a, like right here in this driveway, and that lit that driveway, I don't see it on the plan here, so I don't know where this guy is.

It's existing.

It's existing. What's that? It's existing. So I don't know if that doesn't belong to him, and if it belongs to .

Well, he owns that .

I know, so. Yeah, that was the only guy, that light pole was the only one providing light in that driveway. Mr. Landry, you're the resident lighting expert of Star Salad.

you know there's no hard we don't have right there's parameters in our zoning code it's a recommendation it's not super bright right well aren't as much brighter than that um

I guess I'm not familiar if like that's some kind of national safety code if you don't have a local code.

It's a little different and

for depending on use yeah less municipality says what they require is for the fact that we don't have a standard for code use But if you then look to what other recommendations are out there, it's not excessively bright.

It's not dark.

You know the existing lighting on that.

I live right there. I mean, it's so bright downtown as it is. There's going to be light coming through the street lights. I mean, it's like 24 hours a day outside. And I'm just out in the street.

And it's going to be brighter where it's dashed circles over the lab. Those dashes on there are the perimeter. They are the lowest flight levels. I mean, it's the perimeter, but let me submit a quote because it would be real dark. There were areas that were completely unlit, especially near some of the entrances and some of the parking spots. So this is the more night level. No, his parking lot light hasn't grown. The new light fixtures have a spread that's different now. Yeah.

Well that's why you could always change it. A lot of times with minimum lighting it's a safety issue about just feeling safe walking from your car there. You could always change out the heads, the existing heads into either high intensity that can have focus lenses. But if we have no code, I don't know.

I can't understand the question. The lighting plan requirement, the site plan review, that enables us to, that's just broad enough that you could do this.

Right.

I mean, I think it's us verifying that he's saying that beasts aren't going to only bite onto objects. I think that's probably one of the main things he's needing to demonstrate.

Light pollution is the biggest thing, and making sure we're safe.

Yeah. Right. You know, lighting for . That's .

Are they online? I would think so.

I mean, it's an apartment complex. I mean, apartment complex that I've seen online since I was a little kid.

um the problem is Thank you.

Here's a question that we just say in this drawing is that the coal lights, it appears that they're on the photocells. It says dust, dawn, lightning, dooms, and he doesn't know if the system of coal lights is on the photocells. I think they're all on one.

The ones that are behind are not now. I think they're on online. I think they are on the photocells. I've never seen one on there today.

are, what color are they? I don't, in other words, are they, it would be nice to have color temperatures of things like holes and that kind of thing. Or are they LED or do they have to be LED now?

Well, I don't know what's there. I don't know.

And I can't picture in my mind, I can't, I don't even know.

Yeah, is it 5,000? It would be, actually, it just occurred to me,

He's been doing pretty good on his projects, I'm sure. We can put a thing on there. Yeah, I know, but we can put a, I'm sure he wants to go. He hasn't bought these new ones yet.

He can come back to the supplier and either ask him that. Yes, yes. Or if the ones are offered.

So we just put that as a condition. We make the motion and we put it as a condition that they all.

3,000 is the conventional, 5,000 is the white.

A lot of the new LED lights coming through are color-adjustable.

So we can make that a simulation where we can change it.

Mr. Kress?

Well, since it's presented here, we can just put a couple of criteria on there.

So the site plan was approved in January 2015 under conditions on the submission and review of a life insurance plan .