Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

We're going to Alpine after this. Nice. Well, my wife and kids. Is Gary playing tonight? Who? Gary Wilkins. I don't think they have a band on today, Wednesday. Today's Wednesday. Yeah, they only have bands on Fridays and Saturdays, right? I I'm not sure. Did they get Did they get their full invasions back? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cuz they were waiting for that. They got that last month. The board of s approved that the first Tuesday last month or was the second? I can't remember. I know they approved it last month. Yeah, I think. And then it take a little bit for the state to finalize that as well. So, it was the first Tuesday of last month because I was sitting right there when they did it. [Music] Yeah, you did a good job. What's that?

They've started the um the um process of the of hiring a new police chief again. I'm guessing no formed they created a task force and their job is to evaluate what the best option is for the town. So they're going to look at first they're going to establish like metrics on how we want to evaluate moving forward and then they're going to evaluate the sheriff's department. They're going to evaluate a potential police force in the same set as we had before or a police force in a different way. You know they need to decide different kinds of options that maybe a shared system is sometimes split where we have police chief but we still have a contract with the sheriff's department. Yes, there's a lot of options, but the task force is going to be investigating that and making a recommendation to the board. So, okay. And then the board will decide. How's it going? Good. How's it going? Uh, I just remember I used to write the letters. They're in your box. Yeah. Uh, I was talking to you and she said she didn't see the letter. No. Oh, my brother. Excuse me. Not your brother, right? Yes. Okay. No. Same last name. You can't always assume. That's true. There's two folks in town, Seth and Dina Harsh. They are living so happy related to them, but I am not. Who's on that um that um board or whatever? The task force. Yes. Uh is that what they're calling it? A task force? Yes. It's not a board or a commission. They have a very limited

scope of work to investigate this and make recommendations and disband. So the previous one was also disbanded. The previous what board that they formed? whatever it was that they formed for the last um one car was on that was a policy committee. Oh, okay. And their job was to sort of do ongoing review of different policies but then the town. Yes, that one was disbanded. So the task force is uh consisting of Ellen Elliot because she's on uh John Mc Williams. Who's that? Mac. Oh, Mac. Yeah, I know Mac. And Peter Worland is an alternate. And Michael Richtor. Who's that? He works at Cooper's and also the hotel. Okay, that's it. Three people. And then Amanda and Mary Smith and Georgia. Okay. Yeah. Rich is No. No. Thank you. Kathy will not be in attendance today. For me, I was able to make Glad you're here. Me, too. Should be a very short meeting. So, um I told Bridget she did not Hi, Jeff. I'm Chris Sanford. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I told Bridget she could take minutes remotely. How are you? Bridget. Yeah.

Welcome. So, I see her walking by. Hi. Hi, kids. How are you, Alex? Good. How are you? Good. [Music] I just feel like there should be music when we start the meeting, you know. Maybe there can be elevator. It's a whole new administration now. Why? Elevator music is that Well, that would be kind of appropriate. My commission can be a bit dry. I think I know. Yeah. It's the first thing that came to mind for me at least. Remember the theme song for you guys. Every commission has its own theme song. That'd be fun, right? Like on our next meeting, next meeting again. Next agenda is a vote on a theme song. What do you think, Christian? We're gonna develop a theme song for uh Shane. Is Natasha coming? Uh she said she was maybe. Yes, that's going to be on the next agenda. Texas [Music] University. We do have a quorum. So,

Well, all the board members should wait except Kathy. Oh, that's right. You can ignore the text I just sent you. Hi. Welcome. Thank you. Georgetown Planning Commission. It's Wednesday, May 21st, 2025 at 62. I'm going to call the meeting to order. Um, roll call. Sure. Cordial here. Christian Dixon here. Chris Stanford here. Kathy Gate. Jay Cooper. All right. The uh first thing on the agenda is the resolution of Georgia Kofed. She is now the town's police judge. So she no longer serving on the agenda first. On the agenda, we have the resignation of Georgia Kofed and the consideration letters for Jeff Goldman, Shane Henry, and Natasha Jackson and the approval of the minutes to March 19th. Do I have a motion to approve? I have motion to approve. really have a motion. Jamie has withdrawn her letter, so we're amending the agenda in that regard. I motion to approve with the amendment of taking Jamie off of the agenda. All in favor? I I all in favor. Motion passes. The resignation of Georgia Coped. Does anybody have any questions about that? No. You can't You're just like allowed to be on one board. Is that the correct thing?

Planning Commission DRC cannot serve one board selection and those commissions are both those commissions because they're all voting bodies and the appeals for planning commission and DRC is board of selection. So, um I don't think BPC either. They typically do have some application power. So, cool. Yeah. Do you believe that the board of selectman encourages their members to be part of other boards though that aren't the business promotion commission has a representative from an official representative from the commission. I'm sorry from the selectman. So they're not on the board. They are the selectman representative which is a slightly different thing. Parks also has a selectman representative. So you guys don't meet because you are your sole intent is to review applications not um well not your sole intent. You guys do planning but did you all right well the next on the agenda is what are the letters of intent for Jeff Shane and Natasha? We'll start with Jeff. Jeff, do you want to stand up and talk about yourself? Yeah, I'll keep it short item meetings. Uh, so first of all, I appreciate your consideration of of perhaps me being on the board with you. Um, my background in Georgetown was back pretty far. Um, me and Gary Wilkins worked together for the USDA in 1978 and we stayed in touch all these years. I've lived in Colorado three times. Uh, so Gary and us, Gary and me reconnected with Dan and now I'm back in Georgetown. I've lived in Colorado three times. My background is both in real estate. I have real estate license for the state of Colorado and I've been um in the landscape business uh as a business

developer for a couple large companies. Um, so I thought this would be a good fit for me, uh, with the real estate and the landscape and the fact of me living back in Georgetown and hooking up with my old friends. And if you have any questions, please ask. Why do you want to be on commission? because I lived in Colorado almost 40 years and I wanted to reconnect to the town of Georgetown. Um after 45 years reconnecting with Gary which is pretty exciting because we don't see somebody for 45 years and all of a sudden you're his friend again. That's cool. It doesn't happen too many times in a lifetime. Usually they passed away, right? Uh so my connection in Colorado goes back to 1978. Um, and like I said, I've lived in Colorado three times and I feel this is where I want to be. Cool. Questions. Um, would you plan on leaving Colorado anytime in the near future? No, I've lived in uh lived in New Orleans. I lived in Savannah. I lived in Pennsylvania. I lived in Colorado three times. Um, I'm getting tired of moving. And uh it's funny because every time you move, you throw stuff away. Well, after you move to the new place, you're buying less stuff again. For instance, a barbecue. I've given away so many barbecues and now had to buy a barbecue again. I'm just stupid stuff. So, moving to me is old. I group more than most people, but I've had the advantage of being in all different parts of the country. So, I'm able to uh communicate with a lot of different people. Do you currently are you currently employed? Are you retired? Are you I'm

semi-employed. Uh I work as an independent realtor uh for the state of Colorado. Um you know, I'm in town. You probably see me with my dog Aspen all the time. So, um, I do work part-time, but I do have quite a bit of free time. My friends say I have too much free time now. I said, you know, you reach a point in your life in which you don't need to work to the end. And I didn't understand that when I was younger, but now I understand it. So, I can always make time for things. Okay. Anybody else? Thanks, Jeff. I'm gonna give Shane some time if he decides to show up. I need some He's not going to get Oh, he's not. Okay. Well, um I will read Shane's letter of intent. Have you all read this? Yeah. Okay. So, it says, "Dear members of Georgetown Commission, my name is Shane Henry. I live at 300 T Street in Georgetown. I am writing to formally express my interest in volunteering to serve on the Georgetown Planning Commission. With extensive professional experience in real estate, I have a strong understanding of land use development processes and the importance of thoughtful sustainable community planning. My gra background has given me a deep appreciation for the unique character of Georgetown and I am committed to helping preserve and enhance it for current and future residents. I believe the planning commission plays a vital role in shaping the long-term vision of our town and I would be honored to contribute my knowledge, energy, and perspective to support that mission. My goal is to help ensure that future improvements are made with the best interests of our community in mind, balancing growth with historic preservation and quality of life. Thank you for considering me for your position. I welcome the opportunity to further discuss how I can contribute to the community and to the future success

of the town of Georgetown. Sincerely, Shane Henry. And then last but not least, we have Natasha. Hello. Yes. A little bit about me is I moved here um September 2021. Um my husband was relocated to Frisco. This was just more affordable than Summit County. And I'm from a small town in Indiana myself. That's where I grew up. Went to high school. Everyone knows everyone. Kind of what you were saying like I still have friends that I don't see for years and you just pick up where you left off as soon as you see them again. So that's what I kind of wanted moving out here is to have that community feel. But um I used to be in a mortgage. Um so I helped sell homes. Um I now I work for the public defenders office. So I've kind of gotten to help people in our community who are facing jail time with criminal charges, stuff like that. So that really just kind of wanted me to get more involved in the community having doing that job being on the HOA board. So for me, I'm like outdoorsy. I love going on hikes. I have two small children. So seeing the futuristic aspects of what Georgetown could be really of course intrigues me and definitely something I'm interested in seeing because we plan on staying here as long as possible. I mean, I've been at my job for 2 years and I don't plan on leaving that job either. So, I just really am invested in making sure that Georgetown comes to its full, you know, capacity that it can go and all the potential that it has, but also just to make sure that all of the resources and amenities that we have are being to their fullest use. What do you do um with the um You're a parallegal, correct? Or No, I'm the office manager. Okay. So, I um process applications um and calculate income, make sure they can qualify for a service, then assign them to attorneys,

file motions, close out cases. Basically, from the start to finish, I'm involved in the case. Gotcha. Yeah. So, I do all the backend stuff, too, like our expenses. I do PTO requests, um paying our experts, um doing transcripts, requests for court hearing, stuff like that. So, all of the backend administrative things I do to help make sure that everyone gets paid, I'm involved in that, too. Lots of paperwork. Lots of paperwork. Thankfully, a lot of stuff is electronically, you know, available, so I don't have a lot of like paper paper, but yeah, it's a lot a lot of steps, but I love it. Like, especially knowing that we service Clear Creek County, and sometimes I've run into clients, they're like, "Oh, hey, I know you." So, it's it's pretty cool. Yeah. And I mean just the small town is is what I was striving to get to. Mountain small town is what I wanted and so I'm just blessed to be here. Do you have any questions? No. Out of curiosity. What part of Indiana? Um so well I met my husband there. Um we went to Indiana State University in Teroot which is near Indianapolis but he's from South Bend where Notre Dame is. So I have Notre Dame fans. Yeah. I texted quite a bit turning me in on That's right. And I mean there are their blood is Notre Dame. So when I came into the family I was a Michigan fan and I am no longer Michigan. Like I I'm still like I love Michigan but they're like we're going to keep you as long as you come to Notre Dame. And I mean of course I mean I love Notre Dame. Who can't Chris? Uh, no questions. Okay. Um, we're going to ask you guys to step outside for a minute while we discuss everything and then we'll call you guys back in. Okay, sounds good.

But this is still public. They could go back and watch. Yeah, they could also stay for two, but what have you guys been? I know Shane person, so I definitely put a voting for Shane. um out of uh Tash and like I don't really know either of them but um like Natasha has job with count or county job or a district district public so I kind of like that she's you know a local employee Um, I am kind of between it's a hard decision between all three of them honestly. Um, because they all have great qualifications and um, it's hard to make a decision. Um, I would say as far as Jeff, you know, his availability um, to volunteer, I think he would be a great candidate. He seems like he has a lot of free time and seems like he could definitely uh be present at the meetings and you know continue everything and um so I would say my vote would kind of be for Jack because he seems like he has the most amount of free time and the most time to devote to the path. Remember we have two seats to fill and we can also make one of them an alternate right. Um and is that our goal is to fill both seats? That is our goal. But we don't necessarily have to. Now again I I you know I went out of my way to try to pull candidates and some of them dropped out. So um this is who we have right now. I mean I'm not saying that we have to choose any of them or all of them. Just a

reminder you guys make a recommendation to the board of select men. Cool. But they are the ones that will ultimately decide. So yeah, which they've never, you know, said no. Sure. But never said no to us. So far, how do you think it's good if all three of them are interested in being either a permanent or alternate to have or just if people are out so we can always have a quorum? So have to like skip a month's meeting because there not enough people. So if we're going to make all of them put all of them on the board, then the question is which two do we make board members and which one do we make an alternate? Um, I think my recommendation would be u Jeff and Natasha mainly because they were both present tonight. Um, so that shows that they kind of both have the the devotion to make it to the meetings. Um, and Jeff or I'm sorry, excuse me. Uh, and then Shane would be my recommendation for an alternative. What about you guys? Um, I'm for Shane as a full-time member and between since they're both here, maybe we we asked someone to come back. Would either of you have any problem committing to the meetings or you know when I when I came that was kind of that was my thing was like I volunteered to be open. Yeah, I know. I remember that. Um, so I don't maybe one of them doesn't have any door. Yeah, we could ask them if either of them chooses to be an alternate. I like that idea. Cool. That's I mean it's it's often that one of us is not here, right? Yeah. They might vote as a regular regular, you know, so it's with one of them being an al whoever the alternate is likely they will be involved. Yeah.

Tomorrow they could end up being a permanent member. Who knows? So yeah, I think we could ask him and then if no one has a preference, I do think that we should have a maybe we could have an answer. We we could choose as who the alternative would you know right now before we if they don't go who we would recommend to the board. Yeah. If they don't feel that's put them in kind of an uncomfortable spot I think to ask them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can say here's the situation is we want all three, but we need one alternate. Are you interested in being an alternate? Yeah. Well, if they don't want to be an alternate, when we say that we're going to make you an alternator and they say no, we that we don't have to put them on the spot. Yeah. But we can do whatever you guys want. If all three of them were here, I'd ask all three of you the same question, right? Yeah. Only two of them. Um, I'm for Natasha and Shane, but that's my opinion. So, do we want Are we ready to call them back in? Sure. Okay. Do you want to go get them or Thank you. Thanks, Ka. First. Yeah. Um, Shane, we can say his situation like if Shane doesn't Well, he's not here. I don't think we should push. Yeah. My My first would be Okay.

You're like a school, right? It's like a school thing. Welcome back. Okay, we're going to vote on Jeff first. Jeff Goldman. Do I have a motion to make Jeff Goldman a permanent member of the planning commission? I second. You have to make a motion. Oh, I got a second. Um, well, I I You can ask questions. No, no, no, no. Um, we're just voting right now. Got it. Go ahead. So, is is our plan to make Shane the alternative? Was that what we couldn't discuss? So, here here's the deal. We have two empty seats and there's three people who have applied there. This is what like Christian for example when when he got came onto the board was an alternate at first. So and then somebody dropped off the board he was he was an alternate he moved on to the board. Also, Christian being an an alternate um if somebody isn't available on the board, they would they would come and they would participate in in the meeting as an active active member. If everyone's here and you're the alternate, you wouldn't be part of the voting. You wouldn't be a voting member. So to to add to that when when there was two of us and there was one seat and I I said I will volunteer to be the alternate for now. And so yeah when we say we need we need three people but we need two permanent one alternate and so that's kind of what we're trying to figure out is of the three of you who do we want per you know who wants to be permanent who who's

going to be the do like and and I I apologize if this do either of you have interest in being an alternate or would you if it would be your first choice would it would it be to to be on on a full-time a full-time commission member voting every time and and it's often somebody isn't here. one out of six of us isn't here seven or seven and if that was the case to jump the meeting you would be a voting member and it's completely appropriate to say yeah I would like to be full a voting member full time yeah that would be my preference but I'm open to being as well really I am too but if I might say something else I was talking to her outside um in a small town Georgetown is The three cred the three people that gave credentials all seem to be very strong. Believe me, I wouldn't say that if it didn't mean in a small town. I mean, why can't we just put our heads together and I see empty chairs here. Why can't we all work? Yeah. That's what I think that's right. We're going to put two of you on the board, but one of you will end up being an ultimate. But I think the more minds the better. So, the thing about commissions are they are laid out in code. There's a certain number of seats in code. We can't just add full-time members to code. You guys are a commission that makes really serious decisions on applications for people who are making decisions about their life and their land here. We can't be frivolous with that. We have to follow the law. So, there's seven seats and you can have as many alternates as you want actually, but there are seven voting seats. There used to be five when I came onto the board. I moved the board back to seven.

There's one alternate or is an alternate to the alternate? No, there can be multi. Yeah, we can have who are all participate in the meetings, but they won't have a have a vote if if there's a if everyone is present, which often is not the case. So, our alternate would frequently get to vote. Yeah. It also helps get a forum. It's like you have to have five, right? You have to have four. Four. Okay. We have four to seven. So, yeah. So, it just enables us to conduct business and I have to push off to the next month. We have other people's core. Yeah. I'll be open for either one. I mean, I'm not here to to you know, this is Georgetown. This is not here with anybody. That's an alternate. I mean, you can attend whatever I can add to the committee that's fine. you can attend every appreciating that vote. So, we also the planning commission will be working on the comprehensive plan next year. So, that's an exciting project that wouldn't necessarily be voting every time. It'd be working with a consultant and talking to them about Georgetown working on projects that are evaluating things in town. So, they're projects through the planning commission that are also not voting that you would be a full participant in. So, okay. So, um, again, do I have a motion to make Jeff Goldman a permanent member of the planning commission? Motion. Do I have a second? I. All in favor? I I all oppose? Name? Okay. Okay. So, it's What are we doing in case of a tie? Um, the vote fails. Okay, we'll go back to this as an alternate. We're going to move on with the rest of the votes.

Um, Shane Henry, do I have a motion to make Shane Henry a permanent member? Motion. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I I Okay, motion passes. Do I have a motion to make Natasha Jackson a permanent member of Energy? I second. You have to make a motion. Sorry. I have a motion to make Natasha. What's your name? Jackson. Jackson. Second. All in favor? I I I motion passes. Do I have a motion to make Sorry, I keep forgetting your name. Jeff Goldman a alternate of the Georgetown Planning Commission. I motion to make Jeff Golden. Sorry. Is that right? Yeah. Sorry, I didn't hear that. Okay. An alternative an alternate for the planning commission. Second. All in favor? I I all opposed. I Okay. Motion passes. Wait, was that an I or a Okay. Motion passes later on. So Jeff is waiting to Never mind. It's okay. Do you need to write that down? I'll remember. Okay. So the you're now an alternate Well, the the board of select [Music] it'll be the it won't be this coming meeting. It'll be the first meeting in June, which is the 10th. Okay. So and then we don't have our meeting until after that. So if they approve everything that will be members of the board um permanently all of it. So there is a meeting the third Wednesday in July then. Yes. Okay. Um cancelled. Yeah.

Yeah. Sure. Sure. So this commission meets we are trying to establish and now that I have my regular job back and I get back to the comprehensive plan review. Um we were trying to have meetings regularly even if there's no applicants on the agenda to discuss and review the comprehensive plan. We started that process. We did two sections of it. There's a couple more sections we still need to review. And um but frequently when there are no applicants, the board will decide to cancel the meeting because everyone has lives. So yeah. Yeah. And then the board of select is every second and fourth and Tuesday. Correct. Yeah, we do have one for June, right? That's We do have a planning committee meeting in June. Oh, yeah. You said July, but there's a planning commission meeting. I say June. Yeah. Yes. This meeting, this meeting is every third Wednesday at 6 p.m. Did you want to look at this? The minutes from last meeting. Yeah. Um, that's the last thing on the agenda is the approval of minutes for March 19th, 2025. Has everybody read those, gone over them? Yeah. Anybody have an issue? Do I have a motion to approve the minutes for the planning commission's meeting from March 19th, 2025? Uh, a motion to approve the minutes for the meeting from March 2025. Thank you. Thank you. Have a second. Second. All in favor? I I All right. Motion passes. Do I have a motion to adjourn? Can I ask a good question? Oh, sure. Go ahead. So, if there's a time where like um sometimes when we're working in some it's hard to get over here. Um is there a way to appear like on a video or something? Um that's I asked the same question. Okay. Same question. Zoom is totally appropriate. We do encourage you to be

here in part of anything. Okay. If you're on vacation, we don't encourage you to attend unless you absolutely want to. No vacation. That's why we have an alternate. Okay. And that will be fully staffed. So, yes. Well, thank you so much. Thank you guys for volunteering. It really is important. This is a really important commission um for the comprehensive plan review, but also, you know, you're making decisions about like if people can divide their lot and like changes to square footage ordinance reviews, you know, there's like real ramifications for the decisions that this board makes in people's lives. You know, if they had decided to vote against, you know, you're obligated to follow code, you're interpreting codes. You can't just make follow your heart. Yeah. as much as we'd like to sometimes. Yes. Yeah. But you know there there are situations where if you deny someone a special use permit or something that changes their whole life plan potentially. So um you know it's it's important work. I saw the um design discussion last night at um Cabin Creek. Yeah. Did you go see did you go to that? Yeah. Thank you for your public comment. I saw it. I wanted to go but I didn't get a chance. I was it was it was really good. I was impressed with the designs that they have and was like just I don't know just making Georgetown line pop a little more than in my I'm like I'm not telling my children about those playgrounds and yeah wait till they're real. So Oh yeah, they're already going to be asking me. Uh well the parks commission some a lot of them are dreams but longterm plans the meeting for Yeah, that's do I have a motion to adjurnn? I have a motion to adjourn the meeting. Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Okay, now we can

continue again. Yeah. So, a lot of it was just like upgrades to like Triangle Park and meadows and things like that. But some things like we're currently doing a request for proposal for fencing um in meadows and greenway. Yeah. Yeah. And then um the linear park that the Big Corn Development is working on. That's going to be really cool. Yeah. And that's privately funded. So that's going to be they're also there's a lot of that in the the flood zone. It's right next to the lake. Building that bike down there. Correct. They're building some rock formations. Yeah, they're doing a So the workout center a the workout center got mixed actually. Really? Yeah. Bummer. Did that get next? Obviously they need to take into consideration an amphitheater. Yeah, that one is going to be so there's sort of three phases of that park. The first one we're calling a linear park and the linear park is going to be um you know there are some like seating areas and there's going to be uh some places for kids to play and we're not totally sure what those structures look like but they're talking about like boulders for kids to sort of run around on. Um and then some like you know why did the workout center get mixed? uh the funding felt on it. So, and then the um the second phase is there's a dog park going in on the south side of that project. And then the third phase, and this is we haven't run this by the public yet. We want to because an amphitheater would make a big difference while they were down there. So, um so there is a concept for an amphitheater. I'm not sure how that will pan out any um blueprints. Well, the the they're not blueprints. They're they have like designs for Yes. I said that cuz they were talking about having

like um events and I said, "Well, if you allow people to rent it and reserve it for a fee or whatever, like I would do my my vow renewal there, right? You know, really wants to feed there has been there has been push back from the people who live by the Lea and that's understandable, especially with the way the canyon echoes. They're like, "We don't know if we want amplified sound outdoors here." Right. Doesn't necessarily have to be amplified. Right. It doesn't. So that's part of the discussion is like maybe we do permits. I mean, Cabin Creek has a permit for amplified sound, doesn't they? Don't they? They're they So amplified sound permits are required when it's projecting onto a public rideway. So they project onto their own patio. So they don't have to do an amplified sound permit. My my biggest thing about the amphitheater down there is if they schedule an event and then that day it happens to be 100 mph winds down by the other could happen any day. The other big concern with that amphitheater space is if we have events down there, where are people going to park? You know, the parking is something we want to get worked out, right? So, that one is uh a concept still very much in planning phases and needs to have some community outreach and seeing what the people down there interested in doing. I mean, it'll be really interesting to see what it ends up as. Yeah, stage or something. not even look huge in the theater. Yeah. Yeah. And it, you know, it couldn't I mean Kraton was sort of talking about it being kind of a um like an open like a space where you could have a performance but also you could have yoga classes or Yeah, I like that concept a little better. I think cuz I mean I don't want the amphitheater to kind of block any of the views that you have there too. Parking point is a good one too because like the hockey tournament the parking

is where the new development was going to be. Yeah. That leaves you with a lot. Yep. That's going to be tricky. And you don't want to not keep doing pawn hockey, you know? Right. Well, and we, you know, we the parking lots on the lake we share with the ice drivers that weekend, too. So, you know, they take up half those lots and then the other we only have half of the lake lots for the hockey tournament. And there are some solutions that we have employed the first year and well this year with like having people park up at the loop train lot and shuttling them down having people stay at what's the camp down the road. Yeah. And then having them shut up to the you know Craig was sort of talking about getting a block of hotel rooms in Central City, shuttling people in from there, you know. Yeah. down by the motel that was over. Yeah. So, you know, good. I was going to say that. I was going to say that right across from So, the event house Well, Colorado Palm Hockey is very good at parking management. It's really one of the things they're very professional and strong about. You get a big only out oftowners, too. The added what? Out of town. Out of towners. So that's every weekend here. Yeah, that's always something people live here. People live here understand the people driving it up may not understand. Mhm. Park lot right across from the condo. So I stay condos, you know, we're going to go find you guys. Yeah. Hey, man. Yeah. What's up? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet

you. Take care. This one. Like, you're a good guy. And pointing my like I was like slow down the song So it we have to give