City Council - Regular Meeting

All right, good evening everyone. We are now live.

Alright everybody, thank you for attending being here this evening. This is the Gallup City Council regular meeting Tuesday, June 9th, 2026 at 6 PM and we're going to announce the members of the public may submit comments either in person or by telephone to submit comments by telephone. Please called 86 call 86505-863-1254 and leave your name and a return phone number. With that, Al, if you would do the roll call.

Councilor Garcia? Here. Councilor Yost? Here. Councilor Piano? Here. Councilor Molina?

Here.

Mayor DePauley?

Here. With that, join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay, the next item is going to be comments by the public on non agenda items. All those wishes to speak, we're just going to limit the 2 minutes so that we don't continue the meeting. I think 2 minutes is long enough to get your point across. So, if anybody has any comments, they can state your name and where you just name and come up to the microphone and. Feel free.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Patty Lundstrom. I wear a couple of hats in this community, but tonight I'm here as the Executive Director of the Greater Gallup Economic Development Corporation. And I just wanted to speak in general about the importance of bringing in new industry to our community. I think our community is now at the crossroads of development. Either we're a city that's growing or we're a city that is stagnant. And that means that we have to look at expanding our tax base. And one way to do that, obviously, is growing business and industry. What my message tonight is, is that we don't think that every industry that we bring to the city needs to be approved without due diligence. But we do want to see that done. We do want to make sure that all due diligence is done fairly for companies and it's not just ignored or set aside because of misinformation. And what I wanted to share a story with this kind of sad story. I got a call from a very good friend of mine at one of the local chapters and she says, Patty, I wanted to let you know that we're sending a resolution opposing the data center. And I said, why is that? And she says, because we've been told that the data center is going to be using fresh water and that there'll be no jobs. And I said, that's absolutely incorrect. And I said, can you tell me who made that presentation just then? My phone clicked off because the battery died, but I do plan to find out who's sharing that kind of misinformation because it's just wrong. It's just wrong to do that. There are jobs at the end of the day, and we're talking about use of effluent. So thank you. Thank you all for listening to me. Thank you.

Hello, my name is Sharon bolt. Hope you got all know me probably from my annoying emails. Um. I just received this information this morning and this is being the. City council briefing from teraplex stated in May 2026. so I'm still going over it. There's a lot in it and they make a lot of of good claims. Um. I. We'll make a couple of points though that I think still hold true from my previous correspondence with you. First of all, and I'm sorry, I disagree about the fresh water use. TerraPlex is still doing what I would call cagey about the water use. They do not clearly state that the effluent phase is for phase 1 only, but that's what they plan. The statement still exists. long-run long-range water planning for the full one gigawatt one plus gigawatt campus including engagement with the new mexico office of the state engineer in the navajo gallup water supply project is underway this is a big problem despite their claim that this project does not compete with gallup residents for drinking water they do not seem to understand that the ngwsp will be our drinking water Apparently, it is difficult for people who do not live in the Southwest to quite grasp the water crisis we have here. Hopefully we all do. To explain further, I want to emphasize there are two sources of water use for data centers. First is water for cooling. And this has been the biggest concern at existing data centers. And I will say that many data centers even built 2 to 5 years ago are using evaporative cooling systems that makes much of the currently reported water use a bit unreliable since now there are other cooling systems, which use less water. TeraFlex does say that in the first presentation that they will use closed-loop non-evaporative cooling. This is a step in the right direction. They are unclear about what they will use for phase two, the additional 200 megawatt expansion. They do state in phase three they will transition to a direct cooling, which is an even newer technology that probably requires even less water. Good news if we can trust them. That's it.

Thank you very much.

Pat Scheele I move to Gallup in 1993. AI and data centers require us to make a moral decision. The corporations have unlimited money and therefore power. They want to make more money. They are using their money and power to do this. AI has its place and can be useful, but it can easily be misused. For example, it can read x-rays and discover cancer. It can also deny your claim for surgery or a procedure. AI is not human, and it cannot make humane decisions. CEOs are bragging about the number of workers that they can replace with AI. This has serious ramifications for the future. Because of its money and power, there are presently no guidelines and guardrails for its use. We must be very careful to understand what these corporations are asking for and what they are promising. Their lawyers will very carefully write the contracts in their favor. Perhaps they will promise us a new library, but what will we owe them in return? And what kind of library will we receive? Water is an issue. What happens if the supply of water decreases? Does the data center have priority or the citizens? Some places have already learned that it is the data center. Another issue is sustainability. Will the numerous large data centers now being built become obsolete as smaller, more efficient data centers are developed? What will Gallup be left with if the data center is no longer profitable? When a corporation offers an exciting deal with limited details and ask you to make a decision in a hurry. And when it is stated that if you don't take the deal, they will go elsewhere and that you will get a bad reputation in the way you do business. These are warning signs to slow down and ask a lot of questions. It has been stated in this chamber that we should just allow the effluent water contract to proceed. That is a minor thing and nothing major has been decided. Thank you. The problem is that we started there. We start there and things proceed. It becomes more and more difficult to change the course of action. A lot is at stake with our water, our environment, the noise level, air pollution and electricity bills.

Thank you so much. We have enough people. Thank you. Appreciate your words. Yeah, yeah.

Hello, my name is Cody Jansen Anaya and I'm running for a council delegate for district 14, which represents the chapters of Twin Lakes, Coyote Canyon, Mexican Springs, Tohatchee, and Natchitoke. And I have questions. Has Gallup, has the City of Gallup confirmed, can you guys confirm whether it has held any direct consultation meetings with the Navajo Nation chapters closest to the project, specifically Natchitoke, Mexican Springs, Tohatchee, Coyote Canyon, and Twin Lakes? Also, has the city provided these chapters with the water use projections, wastewater plans, or the environmental information related to the proposed AI data center? These are questions my community has. And if it's only been at the DOJ level for our tribe, our chapters need answers. We need information. We are part of this community. Gallup takes the Navajo dollar. This is important. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thank you for listening to my remarks. I'm here to speak to the importance of responsible growth.

Bruce, we know you.

Bruce Armstrong. I work with Greater Gallup Economic Development Corporation. I'm here to speak to the importance of responsible growth and economic development in Gallup. Growth is essential to the survival of this community. Gallup cannot maintain its quality of life by standing still. Every year, our costs for public safety, maintaining roads, utilities, parks, and covering other essential services increase. Without new investment, new businesses and new taxpayers helping carry that burden, existing residents and businesses are left paying more for less. Building a stronger tax base benefits everyone. We need to create opportunities for our young people. Too many of our young people leave Gallup because they cannot find career opportunities that match their education, skills and ambitions. Economic development is about creating good paying jobs that allow our children and grandchildren to build their futures here instead of somewhere else. Economic development creates community stability. Communities that rely too heavily on a few sectors are vulnerable to economic downturns by attracting logistics, manufacturing, advanced energy, transportation, technology, and other industries. Gallup can diversify its economy and become more resilient and vibrant over the long term. I would say that development and community values can be and should be mutually supportive. Supporting development does not mean sacrificing our character or quality of life. Smart growth means attracting businesses and industries that provide good wages and careers, respect our community, strengthen local businesses, and create opportunities for current and future generations. gallup has a choice we can either shape our future through thoughtful economic development or we can allow stagnation to take us all down growth is not simply about buildings and businesses it's about opportunity jobs services and creating a community where our children choose to stay and where families choose to invest bruce thank you so much thank you thank you

Hello, I'm Walt Eddy, McKinley County citizen. I've never in my lifetime been on the fence on an issue, but here I am. I agree with Patty very much that we owe it to our community to do the due diligence in any new industry that wants to come in. I've asked, I don't know what the water uses are, whether it's affluent, whether it's fresh water. I would think in our due diligence, we would find out exactly what's required from the city to get this here. And when we get all that stuff, then I think we could make a way better educated guess is coming and saying, well, in Georgia, this company did that. I don't even know what company's coming here. I would welcome getting the opportunity to know more about the project.

Thank you.

Good evening. Good evening. My name is David McKessick. I've been a Gallup resident since 1994 and I'm very concerned and for this community. I want to express my concerns over the TerraPlex data center proposed for McKinley County near Gallup. My concerns are multifaceted. Some of it comes from that presentation that was done by Greg Thompson of TerraPlex here on April 24th. But also in my own research, I found too many municipal governments and residents with extreme buyer's remorse after inviting data centers into their communities. Every community Each community has found one or more promises from the data center company to be unrealized, false, or downright deceiving. These communities have realized water depletion, especially in drought-prone areas. And yes, TerraPlex says over and over, no drinking water. However, their slide also admits that they are investigating Navajo Gallup water supply project to fulfill its needs on the long term. That is drinking water. Other communities have found surging electrical bills, even though the data center says that it's going to have a direct link to Gallup electricity. In many areas, their electricity has gone way up because of wholesale costs and monthly utility bills are skyrocketing. Promise of well, paying jobs are not realized air and noise pollution. Noise pollution can travel up to 2 miles from these facilities. Lastly, I went with this recent article in the opinion page of the Gallup son said that this is a gift horse proposal. Apparently, we're not supposed to look too closely at it. I would contend that with a little bit of examination of TerraPlex's claims and viewing other communities where these projects have happened, I view this more as a Trojan horse that's presented at our doorstep, and I ask that we proceed with caution.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Good evening mayor and council, ladies and gentlemen. First of all, I want to appreciate the fact that you keep. The public comment in your agenda that's important to all of us. A couple quick comments on the current topic that everybody's concerned about when it comes to data center things. Just a couple things. I just ran across a figure this morning that says in terms of this concern about the amount of water that's used, that to write 100, just 100 word text under with chat GPT takes the equivalent of a bottle of water. for the cooling of the servers and also for generating the electricity that the servers use. I thought that was sort of a practical illustration. The other thing I want to just mention is that we've heard articulate comments and concerned comments the last weeks and the night from citizens, and it makes me optimistic in the sense that we have people who are both concerned and articulate. We haven't heard much from the business community, from business owners and the Chamber of Commerce, unless I missed something. But the thing that strikes me is that I haven't heard anything about possible impact on housing and schooling and schools. If we bring these things in, and there are, in fact, new jobs, that's a whole important thing is what what's the impact on schools need for schools, et cetera. So maybe we haven't gotten that far yet because a lot of the concerns are just being cautious about being transparent and digging out more information. I want to mention another topic quickly. We have, as some of you know, up in Red Hills Park, a Red Hill Mobile Home Park Residents Association. And I also am a member of a board, a statewide board, That's called land of enchantment, manufactured homeowners associations, and I want to get I'll get some information at the board about what's going on there because there are things that affect Gallup pros and cons and including just, for example, that the state, the city. is not allowed to generate its own ordinances when it comes to things like mobile home rent.

Yeah, thank you, Lenya.

Rent control and things like that. That's going to be coming up.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor and Councilors. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for allowing public comment. I did not come prepared to speak tonight, but I feel it's important to address accusations of misinformation when folks get out and talk. Whoa, there's my mom calling. Excuse me. When people research issues and talk to their fellow community members and share the information that we learn, the claim that freshwater may be used or likely will be used comes from TerraPlex's own presentation. And the concerns about there not being a lot of jobs or at least jobs that actually hire local people comes from experience with other communities. It comes from understanding about what types of jobs might be available at data centers, particularly after they're already constructed. These are not us making things up, those of us who are sharing information about what's happening in data centers and other communities. This is us researching and asking for information. I submitted an IPRA request to the city several weeks ago. I just got a response. I asked for a lot of information about what are the mechanisms in place For enforcing these promises that TerraPlex is making, what is the information that you have about TerraPlex's history? This is a brand new company. What is their actual track record? Because he was talking as though there was a track record here. And can we actually depend on these promises that they're making? So I asked for a lot of information I got. a copy of the slides that Terraplex used, which I did ask for. So thank you for that, finally. And I got a copy of these affluent agreements. The response was, we don't have information that's responsive to these other questions that you're asking about heat pollution, about sound pollution, about light pollution, about water use.

Thanks for the question.

We need that information.

Good evening. My name is Beatrice Nunez. I'm a retired RN and I do appreciate that we do need to bring commerce and business to this community. Nobody disputes that, but I think we have to be very careful about what new jobs and new opportunities we bring to this community because everybody knows even before we start talking about data centers that water is a key issue and we're not going to have a future growth if we don't have water communities cannot exist without the daughters so uh it'd be great to have commerce come in and and help with the tax base and all that kind of stuff but we have to protect our resources we have to protect our water it's not it's not unlimited thank you

okay one more uh good evening mayor and council uh my name's larry wynn um a number of people have questioned uh what is water what is more important water for people or water for data centers i would like to pose that the question is actually more profound for gallup than that and that is it is clearly evident that gallup does not have a water future for itself at all And I would say that people that have assured you or others to the contrary are being glib about that uh the i mentioned the last two times i spoke here that there's about to be a bidding war for water rights in the colorado catchment and uh sure enough today it was announced that the city of san diego is now producing enough potable water from its desal facility that they have entered into an agreement with the City of Phoenix to sell part of San Diego's Colorado River water rights to the City of Phoenix. This is about to be blown up into a huge story where everybody everywhere, especially in the lower basin states, is going to be scrambling for water rights. It is not clear that Gallup has water to put into a plumbing system that's being built. um if there is proof of that i urge the people that have that proof to come forward but most importantly no matter what you think about data centers what are you going to say when people don't have water coming out of the spigot in gallup thank you larry

You'll take 1 more mayor.

Yes. 1 more.

Good afternoon or evening Marin Council. My name is Rick Murphy. I'm a long time McKinley County resident. I left here, went to college, came back here. This is my home. And I intend to stay here for many more years. I would like the council to consider this data center question and an opportunity as favorably as possible and give it all the consideration do. I know personally, I think it's a, it's a great thing in my research. I can't really find enough cons with it now. I'm not saying that they don't use water and there isn't problems there, but I'm confident in your ability to look at this situation, whether they're going to use. affluent water or potable water. I believe that we shouldn't get into a situation where we're going to use potable water. But there's a lot of opportunities here and I'm just really sad that we can't see the opportunities in this. When I look at the refinery out there that's gone now, and I look at the power plant that's gone now, and I look at the railroad that's gone now, and the mines that were gone now, there's nothing that we could replace any of that with that's cleaner than a data center. You know, the jobs are kind of like the operator jobs at the refinery. I got a tour of the 1 in Amarillo. It was a great facility. It's under construction right now. The amount of jobs that it's bringing. Well, it's actually causing a lot of stress on us here locally because the data centers are taking all the electricians. We can't get electricians to work anywhere right now, but the amount of jobs and income that's going to come from the construction is going to be huge. Just the gross receipts tax. I really think that it's got to be given it's due and we really need to encourage it. I know they will go somewhere else. I don't know that I agree with AI and where things are going personally, but we're not going to stop that. And if this data set is going to go somewhere else, it's going to go somewhere else. And there's a lot of opportunities out there. All I know is that if we don't look at the growth and opportunity We're just going to be looking at more poverty and less things in this in this community that it's not the same place I grew up in. Thank you. Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Yes.

I'll just be really quick. Keegan McKenzie Chavez with the City of Gallup. This is not related to the data center. It's related to the community development events, the city community meet and greets. I gave you flyers just to kind of lock in the next seven events. And I just wanted to kind of confirm that with you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Last one.

Rudy Anaya and I'm a Navajo tribal member and given the regional water impacts, I think it would be in the public's interest for the city to commit to meaningful consultation with Navajo chapters impacted by the data center in and around Gallup. That's it. Thank you so much.

it's a good thing again you're you're half rudy that's uh i don't know yeah no i'm just kidding arizona states I'm just joking. Thank you. Everybody with that. We're going to consent consent agenda. These items are placed on consent agenda. So city council can designate by unanimous unanimous consent. Those routine items they wish to be approved or acknowledged by 1 motion. If any items do not meet the approval of the council, or if a citizen, so request, it will be heard as a separate item. With that, Al, could you read the motions or the items?

Consent agenda on number 1 approval of minutes of the April 15, 2026 special meeting April 16, 2026 work session and the April 28, 2026 work session. Consent agenda on number 2 permit application, great race 2026. And consent agenda item number three, FY27, New Mexico True Cooperative Marketing Program Grant Acceptance and Budget Address Suite.

I'm with motion.

I make a motion to accept the consent agenda one, two, and three.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Okay. The next item is our discussion action topics. The 1st item is acceptance of the federal and state funds for the Gallup senior center for fiscal year 202627. and our speaker is Steve.

Good evening, Council. Good evening, Mayor. Senior Center is asking for approval as we did receive our award letter from the State Aging Agency about 10 days ago. You should have a copy of this letter here. Which shows what we are getting we receive for federal grants or servicing the senior center. The 1st, 1 is federal title 3 B, which is for transportation and that is in the amount of 33,988 dollars. The next 1 is federal title grant 3, C1, which is for our congregate meals. You can see that is in the amount of 98,227 dollars. The 3rd, 1 is for federal title grant 3, C2, which is for our home delivery meals or meals on wheels, which we service. We service between 50 and 60 Gallup citizens per week. Plus, we give them frozen meals on weekends when they can't get those and that is for 48,525 dollars. We also received a generous generous amount from the state and I do want to thank counselor Garcia for attending. senior day with us back in February is that did help grease the wheels hopefully. All right, but we want to thank all of our state legislatures as well. Patty just left, but we do want to thank Wanda Johnson, Patty, Ms. Pinto and George Munoz as well. That is in the amount of $309,358. And then we are receiving nearly 30,000 dollars in money, which is nutritional service incentive programs. And this goes to some of our food costs where we have to buy domestic foods grown here in New Mexico and the area. So we are asking for you to approve that. So we can go ahead. And begin to service our center for next year. I also want to thank the city council for the city match this year of roughly 385,000 dollars.

so with that that's what we would like to do do you have any questions right linda motion to approve the acceptance of federal and state funds for the gallup senior center for fiscal year 20 26 27. second

Councilor Garcia? Yes. Councilor Molina? Yes. Councilor Yazzie? Yes. Councilor Peano? Yes. Mayor DePauley?

Yes.

Thank you, Steve, for a great job that you've been doing so far.

I appreciate all of you. Thank you very much for the comments.

Steve, sorry, I was going to ask this. It doesn't influence the vote, but I just wanted to see if you could give a very quick assessment of how you think this amount of funds will serve you for the year, given the inflation on food costs and other things.

Looking at how we budgeted for this year, I do not feel that I'm going to have to come before council to ask for funding for next year. I think we're going to be. We're going to be in good shape for next year for as far as the food elements go. Thank you. You know, we're going to be moving into the new facility and I'm sure we're going to come up with things that are just going to come up as we move out there and we're going to cross every bridge as we come to it.

Yeah, understood. Thank you.

Thank you.

The next item is for the extension of the proclamation declaring extreme or severe drought conditions within the City of Gallup. And our speaker is Fire Chief John C. Perritt.

Good evening, Mayor and Council, and I have another presentation for you, if Al can bring it up. So a lot of people are asking why are we already looking to extend this? So, Al, if you want to go to the next slide.

Have they seen the wind?

So with the fireworks licensing and safety act in New Mexico, so basically we've gone over this before, but it allows jurisdictions to kind of restrict fireworks based on two reasons. First is the city ordinance, or we can also declare a severe extreme drought. That proclamation has to be issued before the start of the holiday sales season for the Independence Day. Sales can start from June 20th to July 6th. So you have to do the proclamation sometime in May, but those proclamations are only good for 30 days. So we did it on May 26, which takes us to July 26, but that's still within the holiday sales period. So we have to do it again to cover the rest of the 4th, all the way to basically, if it gets approved tonight, we'll go to June 9th. Or sorry, July 9th, which will be out of the independent day sales period for fireworks. So it's a little weird, but we're following state law. So that's why we're doing it to us. All right, so if you want to go to the next slide, this is actually when I did the presentation on May 26, this was our current drought conditions. So, if you look, the orange is considered severe drought. Extreme drought is the red. And at that time, at the May 26 meeting, just basically the Northwest portion of Northern part of McKinley county was in severe or extreme drought. You want to go to the next slide? This is our current drought. So that's how much change from May 26 till now. So basically all of McKinley County is now in extreme drought except for the far northeast part and the far southwest part. So the drought's actually gotten worse. We've had a couple days since May 26 where we were looking at rain. You guys noticed we didn't get any rain. I think on the north side today it sprinkled a little bit, either that or it was a flock of birds flying over us, but that was about as much as we got on the north side. If you wanna go to the next slide. So basically when I came to you on May 26, this was the drought kind of what they were looking at the drought being from May 1st to July 31st. As you saw in New Mexico, the drought was gonna persist, but this has actually changed. If you go to the next slide, they're actually looking that now between June 1st and August 31st, that our drought is gonna remain, but it's gonna improve a little bit. We are looking at some possibly good monsoonal rains. The problem is, We don't really know when they're gonna show up either before, chances are it'll show up on July 4th when it'll start raining.

All right? All right, so. What days you have been? Just before that.

So if we go to the next slide. So basically, again, this was the significant wildland fire potential outlook on May 26. This is what I provided you for June. If you go to the next slide, this is the updated one for June. So if you notice, really, New Mexico really hasn't changed, but a lot of the northwestern part of the country has changed. The next slide shows you what July looked like on May 26. All right, if you go to the next slide now, this will show you what July 26 is basically New Mexico kind of remains the same. But again, some of the Northwest part of the United States and the northern part of the northern part of the United States also is now looking at above normal fire behavior. And with that, I will stand for any questions. So, basically, what I'm asking for tonight is to extend the proclamation and just to let, you know. Again, a lot of city members, they think that this is restricting or banning all fireworks. We are not legally allowed to do that. We can only restrict certain types after the last proclamation was signed. I went to our current year round vendor. We know that there's 1 vendor and Gallup that sells fireworks year rounds. I gave them the proclamation. We did an inspection and they pulled all their restricted fireworks off the shelf. They work with us very, very well. And already the other firework vendors, we have at least 3 or 4 already that are looking at coming in. They already know about the restrictions as well. So we'll be checking to make sure they're not selling restricted fireworks and I can tell. Citizens that Gallup, if they buy fireworks from a vendor inside of the city limits, they are legal to be used.

It may not make sense that they can be used, but they are legal to be used and, you know, 1 of the big items to which these starts don't show you is the wind. Right? They, they're mainly based on precipitation, but they don't, they don't predict wind and it seems like it's windier and it's been last year at least last couple of years. So there is even more reason to for the proclamation to support it.

Correct, and especially if we have a fire start now, like last night we had a fire behind Marshalls on the north side. It was down in one of the drainage ditches. It was a little gusty and it started to take off, but luckily our guys were on it pretty fast.

Ron, question? No, thank you to your guys for taking care of that.

Do you have a question, Walt?

Well, I'd just like to say that it matters.

Thank you.

Well, and it actually works best for us, because if we restricted them in the city, but the county didn't. People would just go by the county and by far and vice versa. So it works great if we both do that.

And with that, too, it's going to recognize commissioner ready and the council delegate. Candidate candidate. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And you didn't say rock springs. Did you. Yeah, twin lakes. Okay. Thank you. Mayor Mrakas, Okay, thank you.

Mayor Mrakas, Russian to approve the extension of proclamation declaring extreme or severe drought conditions within the city of the now. I can.

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Good evening again, mayor and counselors. So I'm bringing before you, um, uh, amended grant agreement. So the city of Gallup was awarded a 25,000 dollar trails plus grant by the New Mexico outdoor recreation department in fiscal year 22 to develop multiple trail systems with Gallup by utilizing volunteer youth associated with several schools in the area. Shortly after receiving the grant, a leadership change, both within the city and within the outdoor recreation department resulted in the project never being started. The city did receive the funds back in fiscal year 22 and at that time had provided the required 15,000 dollar match. Creating a total of 40,000 dollars to complete the project funds are still accessible for the project. So, the current amended grant agreement reflects a change in the scope of work due to the lack of volunteers that originally were to be used to build the trail system. They're using a bunch of high school state students. Those kiddos have since graduated and everyone has is no longer available for this. level of trail building there was going to be four different trails built the outdoor recreation department has been flexible in an effort to support trail development in gallup and has allowed the city to continue with the grant by extending the time frame along with allowing an adjustment to the scope of work the scope of work for the project now will be to design a trail system at hojo academy charter school that connects to the sports complex as well as mapping both digitally And in paper format, there's going to be some existing trails that they're basically mapping out, replacing aging trail signage and installing trailhead chaos. So, I attached the amended grant agreement and so there's no fiscal impact as this has been already funded and. Funds have been sitting there, so my recommendation and asking for approval of the amended grant. So, you can stand for any questions you might have.

Yeah, the question, this is really great news that they allowed us to extend the script.

It's so is I have to tell you that it kind of fell through the cracks and Cod brought it up that it was in limbo. So it ended in December 31st of 2024. So it's been a long haul kind of getting all the pieces and the people back together and coming up with a new plan and a new scope that would work. So that's taken that kind of got on my plate about a month after I got here. So it's taken almost a year to kind of put the pieces together. But now we're at the amended grant agreement.

I just have a few follow up questions regarding it. So I think initially we were. I thought we were working on 2 separate trail projects, and it looks like we're going to focus on the Hojo 1. the 1st. And so that's great and it sounds just to clarify that school is on board with this and good with this trail system being near their school. Is that.

And this, it's just going to be a design at this phase, but there's a lot of money to actually do the trail. And originally this grant, there was, I think maybe some confusion when this grant. Was initially applied for, they kind of had it flip the match. So they had, like, 125,000 dollars worth of, like, in kind and volunteer service and, like, 25,000 from outdoor rec. It's the other way around. There's a. A match of 15,000 and so I think. Yeah, there was a little bit of confusion and it was a new grant for the state and for the person I think that applied for it, but it, we don't have the capacity just. Because of labor to build this, so we're going to design, we're going to have the maps made for some other trails. We're going to replace signage that needs replacement. And then there's some kiosks that need to be in place at Trailhead. So we really kind of went around the best solution to utilize this money. And then we get the most bang for the buck. So it's not trail construction, but it's going to be trail design for the Hojo to the sport complex connecting that.

And I know we sometimes work with like some local shrub places are we going out to fit on the design or are we working with someone specific on the design.

I am I allowed to talk about that is that.

Much.

Yeah, we, the original 1 of the original, I'll just say it this way. 1 of the original people that was involved in this is willing to. Work and do the design work and we're establishing a contract with him. So he was 1 of the original persons in the group and I have to tell you, everybody who had been involved kind of came back. Keeney, minus the people that had kind of brought the kiddos together that person that is no longer and all the kids graduated so all the other people involved with trails came back and and has really helped me. Keeney, For gallup trails gallup adventure they've all kind of helped swift and in their kind of new roles to help me put all the pieces together.

Thank you, I shade it. Thanks motion. Everybody any more questions.

So those kiosks are not for this trail, but there'll be for some other ones that need to be replaced.

We might be able to afford a fourth one that could kind of be stored to eventually go to this one. But no, it's for the we looked at all because of the original grant dealt with 4 different trails and was going to have. a bunch of different things so we kind of looked at the design of a new trail and then looked at our existing trails and thought what do we need and so the kiosk three of the kiosks are for existing trails and then we're going to kind of keep one if we can afford it the prices are changing a little bit um and then it possibly could go to this um this trail once it once it's built

A motion to approve amended trails plus grant agreement.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

The next item is the budget adjustments to correct transfers in and transfers out and Patty is going to explain this to us.

we should have used the word update, not correct. So this is dealing with some grants and loans. Some of it is because when we set up a loan and a grant, and we haven't got all the funds in, we haven't moved them, and now we're into a new fiscal year, We have to adjust some of that. And so this is just cleaning up to recognize most of the big dollars. They're all related to a loan and grant for utilities from NMFA. It's JU5859. And as we get the money in, we recognize it into the loan funds and then transfer it over into the project for spending. And so we're asking that we update the transfer in and out budgets to accommodate all the movements that we need to put the cash where it belongs.

Um, there a question, how could you just that makes sense that, you know, it's before the next budget and, you know, transfer it. I understand that. But can you just mention because I don't memorize what these funds are.

1, 2, 9, 2, 9, 9, 4, 6, all these funds that are 90 is our detox 299 is grants. Or 62 is a loan grant debt service or 66 is a loan grant debt service and 304 is a project fund for wastewater. Oh, wastewater. Okay.

So just a real quick clarification. So when you say loan grant for those, like one of those is over a million dollars in 462. Is that for a specific project or?

JU 58-59. It's part of a wastewater funding.

Oh, so are three of them part of wastewater?

Yes. So in this case, it is.

Okay. Just because they didn't have the money up front to start the project and now we get reimbursed and we transfer it in.

When we get the loan and the grant, we set it up in that fiscal year and we set everything up. We get the budget, we get everything. When we get towards the end of the year, the proper financial reporting for recognizing these, we have to recognize the loan only at the amount that we are obligated at that exact moment, so whatever we've drawn down. The grant we have to adjust to just what we've received and then the rest goes into deferred revenue. And so that changes that whole budget project. For that period of time, and then when the project rolls into the new year, it doesn't bring all of that forward. So, if we haven't finished it all by June 30th, we pretty much need to re, budget it. and and we just don't know that ahead of time six months ahead of time when we're working on the budget so this is just something and we we've done it several years sometimes we wait until audit time to get it all in there and recognize it but this is going to affect our dfa reporting and we needed to get it done before june 30th this year okay okay but this will finish all these projects then i mean this will finish what's in process at the moment okay okay that doesn't sound promising but No, because they're multi-year. We'll be back doing some more next year as well.

Any more questions? Doesn't sound like it.

Motion to approve the budget adjustments to correct transfers to be in transfers.

Second. Councillor Garcia? Yes. Councillor Piano? Yes. Councillor Molina? Yes. Councillor Yazzie? Yes. Mayor DePauley?

Yes.

Thank you.

With that, since Patty's already up here, we have the resolution R2026-23 approving the FY fiscal year 2027 initial budget. And Ben?

There were absolutely no changes. I'm only here tonight because DFA requires that we present this twice each time with a new resolution to be approved. I've presented you with the very small budget recap. This is directly off of the system and then a print out of what it looks like now that it's loaded into the Navi line budget portal awaiting being transferred into our operating funds. And so I just asked for approval of the resolution.

Hella Pannewig – Assistant City Attorney, Continuous Integration. : That seems like Mary you have a question about the budget, I know this is just the second reading, and we have to get this approved. Hella Pannewig – Assistant City Attorney, Continuous Integration. : Or day a reasons, my question is just more clarification that if we approve this budget with everything and it's a budget it's not set in stone and there's things that still have to come before us, we can change those things. Hella Pannewig – Assistant City Attorney, Continuous Integration.

: Not until July one i've got everybody on hold until July one and they're already making their lists.

Oh, people are already making changes to things that they're wanting.

They're there. They've recognized needs to make changes, but there was a couple in particular. I told them that I thought it might. Look foolish for us to present budget changes tonight at the same time. We're presenting a final budget that we're obviously already changing. So, it's going to work out fine. If we do those changes in July, we've done it most years by because it's such a dynamic process and we have so many different sources and uses of funds. So many opportunities that come our way. And we'll already have some of the 1st meeting in July.

Oh, okay. So, okay. So, right. Because I can use this to me, like, you would think you would make the budget changes. Prior to approving the budget. But then we're saying we're improving the budget, but then we can make changes. I think that may be confusing to people.

So DFA's guidelines on this, and they will flex slightly, but they don't like it, and you have to jump through a lot of hoops. If between the first and the second readings and approvals, you recognize you need to make a change in something, you definitely can. But we had a class on it again yesterday, and they're telling us the only thing that they're going to allow to change is our update in cash balances. And so they're really getting to where they need it to lock in because they're already analyzing it and they're already running it through all the higher up reporting they do. And so they're just asking us to kind of cool our heels and let this plan get put into play and then as we need to make changes. And there's no way you could put a 12-month plan into place without having to make changes. There's just not feasible. Just like your monthly budget, your electric bill comes in different this month than it does next month. So there's just variables that are a little bit beyond control. So they recognize that. And the feds are working and it'll be in about two years. We're also going to have to report all of this at the federal level as well. So hold on to your hats.

And that's new.

That's going to be new. It's called the Federal Data Transparency Act. It's going to require more staffing. It's going to require new software, a lot of training and a lot of hanging separate.

But it does comply with the Paperwork Reduction Act of 1968.

Well, thank you, Patty. You know, DFA has 160 of these they get this time of year, and they have to go through. So I understand their turmoil they have to.

Yeah, and they've made it much more detailed than before. Now we have to go in and put in every loan that we have separately. We have to give them all our amortization schedules, and then they have a whole department that just goes through and checks all of our entries on that to make sure we're accurate. now for lodgers tax instead of just saying we've spent money on promotion and we've spent money on operations we have to put in each and every project that's funded the title the date the spending for each and every one and it has to be in a separate module that ties back to your original they're just very data driven and they're making it extremely challenging a resolution within one resolution so because

Thank you. Of course, I would make sure we didn't have to pass and then they reject because.

Good catch.

Thank you. Did you have something Lynn?

Why don't you come up and. Thank you. I just want to reflect that. Your name, the city, your name again? Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Remember of the city of Gallup, the most artistic small town in America. Um. the city, as you know, used to own and operate the Lexington Hotel as a shelter for unhoused street people. And this last winter, remember, they're fortunate enough to get a grant to operate that shelter for a few months out at the Howard Johnson Hotel. And I haven't seen the budget I'm assuming, though, that that there's nothing new in there to deal with that particular problem that we have in Gallup. And I'm just afraid that the status quo is going to continue in terms of having people who have problems and our problems. And I don't see us making progress with that until we make a concerted effort. We have good efforts. We have the NCI, we have the detox center, we have Hojo Center, we've got Department of behavioral health, but we've had those and we're still on a plane that's even so I just want to mention that. And I apologize and wondering because our. Our homeless on house task force has been. Dormant for some months, and that's my fault. I've been gone an awful lot and I've been dealing with some family medical things that taken me away. So, in terms of initiating that, I can't point at anybody else, except that I'm afraid to me, there's probably something missing in the budget in terms of giving a stronger attention to to our situation there. Thank you.

Thank you.

All right with that, we have a motion to approve the budget resolution.

Yes. Yes.

thank you thank you thank you very much okay with that that yeah we're gonna have comments by the mayor and city council and again i'd like to thank walt eddie to be in here um next week is the county um the statewide county uh meet It met the Mexico counties conference in Gallup and, you know, 1 of the things we've been asking, and we've been getting people do is clean up their yards, especially along 66, not only the commercial, but residential. So we have a really good appearance for people that are coming through Gallup and take it and that are staying in the town. And they're going to be here for 4 days. Walt. Is that right? 5 days yes. So. 512 people coming to Gallup. So everybody do the best they can to make Gallup look the best they can. So thank you. Thanks, Walt.

Linda?

Okay. So I just want to mention again what Keegan had said about the meet and greet at the El Morro Event Center, Wednesday, June 17th. Yes, right 536 30pm and there's going to be quite a few because may was cancelled so we're going to have the Community development department customer service department purchasing department city manager or secret and the senior Center director. So I encourage everybody to come and if you have any questions, come and get involved with the city at that time. You can do a great job as well as our city employees. So thank you for that. And then we have the ArchCrow coming up Saturday the 13th. Come and support the ArchCrow. It's always a great event. attended briefly the public meeting city hall at the council chambers july council chambers july june 11th to 25th thursday 5 30. oh that's this is the public meeting i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm carrying my notes so here again i just wanted you all to make that we have this public meeting changes to the building permit process and that'll be thursday June 11th and Thursday, June 23rd at 5.30 p.m. here at City Hall at the Council Chambers. We have our Burrito Project. This will be the second year we're celebrating for our unsheltered, they call it, and it's a great celebration for them. So we encourage all to come and volunteer or attend and just give extending hand to our unsheltered. It's a great success every year and it's at the Redwood Lodge this Saturday from 10 to 1. And I encourage all to come out and help because it's a great event. I think I also put on there the Great Race at the Gallup Cultural Center will be Thursday the 25th starting at 11.30 a.m. There's going to be lectures, indigenous dancing, tours, private shopping. So come and support that. And again, what Walt said, the Association of Counties Conference is June 15, Monday, starting June 18. And the 2026 Summer Indian Dances has started. the art market. And I went last Tuesday and it was already great. I think when I talked to Matt, there was already over 300 people that attended. It was very well attended. And those are great. And I also encourage you to attend those that are Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursday evenings starting at 6 p.m. And it started June 2nd and it will go through August 6th. And this is a free family event. So I encourage you again to go at the courtyard and attend. very very very fun and interesting and uh chief I just want to thank you for inviting us to the new beautiful fire truck that we received and for the pool um it's gonna you brought a lot of great changes and I appreciate you for that for your staff was a great turnout um and at the recreation center uh department june starting june 1st to august 7th there's a summer program for the kids starting from 4 to 16. there's a lot of activities that's going on all day for them and you can pick up a schedule at the larry brian mitchell carol ronald's aquatic center the cecil garcia fitness center or go online on the website to see all the activities that are going on and we're also for more information you can contact the Recreation Center at 722-2619. Gallup Arts 123 has a summer program. It's a kids summer program for art, art classes. They're launching the 66 artists on 66 starting June 6th to August 8th, Tuesdays through Thursday, 12 to 6 p.m. and Fridays and Saturdays, 10 to 6 p.m. Contact Rose Eason. Lions Club Rodeo, June, we have a busy month. June 19th through the 23rd, our Best of the Best Rodeo, June 24th through the 27th. I attended a MMIW MMIP, which is Missing and Murdered Indigenous People, this past Saturday. It was a rally for Pepita, Red Hair, and all others that are missing or have been murdered it was a very sad but um a really um good day that they all came out with this rally with this task force um uh with and I just I told them that as the mayor and our council we do support them and all that they do and our police department was the first one to establish them on the task force on getting uh information and helping through other areas of helping with the indigenous people who just murdered MMIW. So I just want to say it was a heartfelt, great event, meeting these people who have gone through so much. So I just want us to continue to support them, not also here at the city, but also in your prayers, because it was very heartwarming to be with these people that are going through so much. And in saying that, I'm a member of the Broken Arrow Human Trafficking Task Force that was started two years ago. And also the police department was involved with that. And Malenith, she's a project foundation. She's from California. She comes and if we don't have it physically at the library, then we have it online. And our next meeting will be June 17, 2026. 11 30 to 1 p.m on a zoom link so anybody that's interested i'll give you that zoom link you can continue this meeting was very important meeting with the human traffic trafficking task force uh and i want to thank crystal yazi from um she was a survivor advocate for the mmiw We're setting up this task force for compete down here, which is her daughter. And that we will continue to be having another one in August, you know. And another rally to come up. So I pray that we all come up and support this very important event. I think so. And that's it. That's it for me. Thank you. Thank you, Linda.

City Council Chambers, Okay, I think, went to pretty counselor Garcia pretty much covered everything so that's lucky for me so i'll just mention two things I should mention three one is. selfish plug for me in the library i'm reading to little children tomorrow at the library it's for little children so if you have little children come it's at 11. i was asked apparently it's my charismatic crazy voice apparently that got them sold on it no just kidding so yeah i'm super excited to talk to the little kids i get to read a kid's book to them it's gonna be so fun so that's super cute Um, but also, um. One thing I don't think that I mentioned, but it was that this is just so interesting and it's on. I'm just going to read it. Gallup is hosting the big Texan steak ranch, the national route, 66 centennial caravan. Um. And it's starting this Thursday. It's begins with the world famous big Texan 72 ounce steak challenge slated for 5 PM this Thursday at the courthouse square. So it's a competition to see who can eat a 72 ounce. So, you know, those hot dog competitions, I imagine it's similar to that, but the 72, are you shaking your head? No, it's not like that at all.

You got to eat the steak, the potato, the side, the bread, everything, drink the tea. I've got to do the whole thing in a certain amount of time. It's free if not.

It's 80, but I think it's not used to be. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's going to be about 5 people. They're only cooking 5 states. So there's 5 people participating in this. I'm not 1 of them. So, uh, but yeah, so it seems like we'll be kind of hilarious if they're going on a whole tour and then it also says that the Rex museum will offer extended hours until 7. so you can go check that out afterwards and. So, that's and that's, I really encourage people to go check out all the stuff that Rex museum as well. Um, for, yeah, for about 66. so, um, just wanted to mention that and then the only other thing I was going to mention. And that's this Thursday before the other meeting also is that I know I've gotten a lot of questions about the airlines and that we. Have extended the contract with our current, um. People that do the airline provide the airline service, which is advanced air. So that's been extended for a year as to not interrupt service. And then I think the thought processes, the council will get together and maybe go up for bid or. But we didn't want to stop service, you know, have a break. So that has continued and it's still serving, you know, I think several days a week. There's 2 trips to Phoenix and then a couple of days in the middle. There's just 1 trip to Phoenix. So I just wanted to give some clarification because I was asked about that a few times. Then. Um, and then I would just also ask us as a city, and maybe the tourism department, I know they're at the dances, but just to, like, make sure we're updating our Facebook and stuff because I know some people don't have Facebook, but you can go to our event site. And a lot of these events that counselor Garcia mentioned are on the calendar of events on our website. Um, and you can get the app for the city of Gallup and. it's like the City of Gallup app with you. If you're into apps, just download it on your phone and you can check out all the great things for the City of Gallup. So I encourage people to do that. But I also want to just make sure that we as a tourism are promoting all these great events that Councillor Garcia just mentioned, because there are a lot of things happening in this month and next. That's all. Thanks.

Thank you, Sarah. Sarah, do you want to?

I'll go next, sure. All right, so I didn't hear anybody mention the Lions Club Saturday. That's also the Saturday, the barbecue event downtown. There is a lot going on. And I want to wish you happy second birthday to the Gallup Burrito Project. Are you going to make comments? Are you public? Okay. I want to thank Erica for her good work at the city and her short tenure here, having learned that she has put in her notice to resign. So just wanted to say a big thank you tonight, as this will apparently be her last council meeting. In regard to the data center, I did want to make some comments tonight because it is because we don't respond during the comment period. Um, I appreciate what everybody brought once again. Um, I do just. As a city councilor, I believe it is important to work with the local chapters and to consult with them on what we're doing. They are, uh, the surrounding residents outside the city limits are part of our Gallup community and I consider them in a way part of my constituency. because these are people that are kind of dependent on things inside the city. They work here, go to school here, spend money here. And so in any conversations about our community growth or about, as was mentioned, possible regional environmental impacts, that is important to me to include the chapters in that conversation. And so I did request to get on the agenda for the District 6 Joint Chapter Meeting, and Mayor Dipali was aware of my plans to attend that. and also um commissioner eddie was present at the same meeting with me so if there's any questions as to what was presented hopefully that can be attested to it i had just met directly with greg thompson as terraplex as i know others here did as well and just wanted to state that what i went and shared with the chapters is what i gathered directly from including the chilled water loop technology and then I also did my best to answer their questions and clearly stated to the representatives there. Most of whom are elders, you know, that I was not there to tell them what to think that I just wanted them to have information. And as I shared with a few people since then, the opinion in that room was overwhelmingly negative, given the unknowns, the risks and the potential long term impacts of something like a data center that is new and that we don't have a lot of proof of information on at this time. And so, um. I guess the reason that I wanted to speak to that is just that I know we haven't made a clear commitment as a city governing body to say we are working with chapters. But that that is important to me personally, and something that I do, um, and making an effort to continue to do well, not with this, but with other things that may come up down the road as well. So, I appreciated the folks who said that they also believe that was important and, um. I also deeply respect. The opinions of my elders and my tribal elders, and those who are representative within that government. So, um, hopefully we can all just keep talking going forward.

Thank you, Mark. I don't know if anybody's noticed, but I've noticed and if I noticed, I think everybody should have noticed by now our town is getting cleaned up. Um, like I said, I hope everybody has noticed that. We had my hats off. Today, Parks was out there, Alonzo's group. We had the street department out there. They were sprucing up the place, and I appreciate that so much. Thank you. Our city's starting to look better every day. The county managers that are coming in, I wish I was going to be here, but I'm not. I'll be here for part of it, a small part of it. But the citizens out there, if you see these guys, welcome them. Welcome them to Gallup. Thank them for coming. Let's make Gallup look good. Mark said that. Thank you, Mark. Keegan came up with $25,000, her and the Cog. Is Keegan there? Thank you for that, you and the Cog.

It already existed.

Who did?

It already existed. It was already in funds.

Who found it?

The reminder came from the Council of Governor.

Good.

Yeah.

Well, thank you guys for doing that. We got some money that fell through the cracks, he said. It was long and gone, forgotten about. Thank you for bringing that back up. We appreciate it. Sarah talked about the airline. I had a chance to use it for the first time last week. And I'm telling you guys all right now, I'll never drive to Phoenix again. I encourage everybody, if you're afraid of planes, this plane is easy. I'm more terrified in a commercial airliner, a jet, commercial jet. This plane was a walk in the park. It was pretty cool. Matter of fact, I booked a flight for My grandchildren and my wife and I and my daughter were flying to Phoenix in July. And they're probably going to have to change the name on the side of the plane to Molina because we're going to fill up that plane. But I encourage everybody, try the flight if you haven't already. If you don't enjoy it, let me know. I'd like to know what was wrong with it. We had a few problems coming back. There was a problem with the airline. I don't know what happened. and scheduling, I'm sure. And we had to wait four hours. But they gave us plenty of notice, gave us plenty of notice. We didn't have to wait at the airport that period of time. But it was a very nice experience. Thank you. Thanks to our employees, the hardworking employees. And I appreciate everything you guys do. Thank you.

Thank you, Ron. You bet. Frank, that leaves you.

All right, thank you, sir. Um, special things we, they did the red rock part. I mean, the red rock school area cleanup, uh, Adrian solid waste Vince with parks, Robert with streets. They did a lot a lot of cleanup. We really appreciate that. And we can't forget judge griego and what her and Aaron are doing, um, with the community service projects, um, picking a different area and cleaning up. I don't know if they're the ones who did the. 564, 264 between UNM and the hospital. The number of bags that they had there, it was phenomenal. Everybody's saying we live in a dirty town, quit throwing stuff out your window. Yes. June 27th will be the next cleanup. It's southeast, west of Ford to Second Street, south of Aztec to Filipina. That'll be the next one. I'll announce the July ones at the next meeting. Saturday, Red Rock Park, 1 p.m. John Taylor is going to be doing a talk, a historical talk on Fort Wingate out at the museum at Red Rock Park. Be neat to go see. You said the county association is going to be here. Yes, they're going to be having their county crawl off the arch crawl on Wednesday. So, come down to downtown downtown will be blocked off the vendors, the bands, the food, the fun stuff there. Monday will be a golf tournament. The county associations hosting a golf tournament. I believe they're still taking registrations. If you'd like to call sheriff Mariano, he's the 1 who's organizing that. Um, for the great race, we will be closing 66 downtown. Starting around 830, so those of you that are wanting to go East West plan on using cold or Aztec 66 will be blocked off. Great race 1125. the ceremony starts 1st vehicle should roll in around 1140. I believe it's 2, 2 people per minute will be pulling in on a clockwork. And the last car will depart at 240. It's a good thing to go out, walk amongst the cars, see the classic cars. I heard there's a 1914 going to be running the route. See those cars. Real night thing. The ninth annual Smile Like Jesse 5K Run Walk is going to be hosted at Fox Run Golf Course on June 13th, 8 a.m. Get on Facebook, Smile Like Jesse, just search it. The registration's online. Registration closes at 7 a.m. Neat event. All the people who keep him in the memories, and they do a lot of cleanups around town in his honor and giving back to the community. So support the families, long-generational families, if you can. I think I've X'd out everything I've written on my paper. What are we going to do when we go electronic? I can't write all that stuff down and scratch it up.

All right.

Thank you, sir. I think I'm done.

All right. Well, we're going to be done with this meeting before the day's over, which is a welcome change to the past few months. Thank you all for welcoming me into the city. I love the staff. Thank you for my time here. Thank you, Mayor and Council, for allowing me to sit up on this dais and provide some advice to you in my short time. I have submitted my resignation. The good news is we intended to stay. We will be staying. I will be at the district attorney's office. so if i see you at my next job good luck hopefully i will see you here at these council meetings as a citizen and um if you guys ever feel inclined to play some trivia come see us at 305 fire on thursdays thank you thank you yeah okay we could just we'll have a motion to adjourn and motion to adjourn second

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.