Senior Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting

Green light. Okay. All right. I called this meeting of the senior advisory committee to order. Secretary, will you please call the roll?

Yes. Chair Harrison?

Yep. Me yes. Present. Sorry.

Vice chair Kroll?

Present.

Member Herzl?

Present.

Member Nelson is not currently here. Member Osvec? Present. Member Reese?

Present. There we go.

And member Walsick?

Present. Thank you. Okay.

One or more of you must be veterans. Closest closest we get. Would you care to do the, pledge of allegiance? Okay. I see we Miriam is standing up in the back to make her way forward.

We will now hear public comments on the non agenda items and the consent calendar items. Secretary, please call the first speaker to the microphone, although a call is hardly necessary.

Yes. We'll have Maureen coming up right now.

Oh, is that how you do it? Thank you.

Oh, that's nice.

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the almost once in a while senior advisory committee. I am requesting the amount of time that I that I may consume. Is that acceptable to you, chair?

Well, perhaps I'll have questions for you that will extend your time. But Okay. The ordinary procedure, I believe, is you get public commenters on items not on the agenda get their full three minutes.

Three minutes. That's correct.

Anyway, all of you sitting up here, I have a feeling that you think we are this committee is a part of the senior citizen club. It is not. We are not a social club. When I say we, because I it is a civic organization. We are here to help seniors.

Have any of you been or lived in a death house or a joint for any length of time? Do you know what a death house and a joint is? A joint is an assisted living home, and a death house is a convalescent hospital. These are things when you wanna help people, get off your butts and get out there and do something. Don't just sit and twiddle your thumbs.

These places need to be watched. They need to be and you go in very quietly as though you're going to put somebody into the facility or you're thinking about going in yourself, and you don't tell the management or anything what you're doing. Because if they find out that you're doing this, they will take it against the residents there. That's why you need you're separate. You don't have anybody in these houses.

So and the first thing that when when somebody goes into one of these places, they look at you as a useless piece of human flesh. There are places that don't even allow the observer. And, it seems like everywhere I go, I get another project. I get another project. I was up at the elks club on Thursday on Saturday. Had a wonderful time, but there needs to be things done for the Mobley challenged. Another thing, there is going to be the

most

wonderful meeting on the I believe it's the June 27 on a Friday. It is a CASC CASC meeting. And I can't remember what CASC means, but these are people that have distinctions to go in to make sure that things are right for the handicapped. So please do something. Don't sit there and let this committee fade away like Todd has said so many have. But we as I say, we are not a social not a social club. We're here to get things done for the seniors. Thank you.

Thank you. And in comment to that, I personally, by the skin of my teeth after my heart surgery, avoided ending up in one of the places such as you described. I was fortunate that my wife was healthy at the time and my home was suitable for my postoperative care. The most recent wife I buried, spent nine months in various care on her way way down. And this was during the COVID era where one place she was in, we I could only visit her daily by camping outside the window of her room.

Mhmm. They moved it to a room with a window. I was able to leverage caregiver credentials for a little while and go in even after the general public was banned for COVID. But then they cracked down to employees only. And even as a registered caregiver, I could not see her. So I had to visit through a window, a closed window at times as well, to the point where I bought a microphone I could stick on the glass so I could hear what she had So to believe me, some of us on this committee very much understand the issues and challenges of the places you described.

To give you an example, one of the places I was in That

was just three minutes.

Three good three good places. But, you look down, and there was a cockroach. And I watched this cockroach deceased. They never swept it up. Never. It was on the carpet. And I was for weeks, and I was in a couple of good places, but they still all need to be monitored by unbiased people like you.

Absolutely.

And they need to be turned in too. So that's just one of the things you can do. Everywhere you go, you're gonna be able to find things to help the seniors.

Sorry. That was the three minutes.

Do we have any further public comments or by any chance anybody in Zoom?

I don't see anyone in Zoom with their hand raised.

Okay. Did any of the other committee members have comments on the public comments. Okay. We will close public comments. And move on to the consent calendar as our item one. Wait sorry. It's not in my script but I see committee member of staff communication and reports

Yes.

On the agenda.

Yes. So committee members will have up to five minutes to make Alright. A

We may as well I'll start very briefly by welcoming our newest member. Shall I throw you by the wolves and throw you to the wolves by letting you go first? Do you have anything to talk to us about?

Hi. Thank you.

Pull your microphone down to you.

Make sure that the green light's on. How's that? Move closer. Is that better? The little light's on.

Yeah. Now we hear you.

We're good. Okay. Yeah. Thank you for welcoming me. This is obviously my first time here. I don't know if this is the appropriate time, but I have an announcement to make for member Nelson. She asked me to say that. Is this would this be the time? Okay. So she wanted me to mention that on Friday, June 6, Meals on Wheels Fullerton along with the Assistance League of Fullerton is hosting a Senior Care one hundred two class at the Assistance League meeting room at 233 West Amridge Avenue.

And there'll be a senior panel of experts from the North Orange County Senior Collaborative. And it's again on June 6, and it's from 2PM to 03:30 pre PM. It's a free event. And accessible parking is free as well. Where is it? It is at the Assistance League Meeting Room at 233 West Amridge Avenue in Fullerton. So senior care one zero two class. They're gonna be talking, I I believe, about, like, in home care versus community care. Yeah. Should be good.

And I am also a member of the North Orange County Senior Collaborative, which is hopefully the, you know, our senior advisory committee can, you know, work with them in some capacity because it's a great great organization. So but that's my

report. Thank you and welcome.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Wendy, since you're right there, you may as well have a go at it.

I really don't have much yeah. I just I just wanted to make sure that she stated something about this not being the Fullerton senior club. Yeah. I'm the president. I know we're not the senior club. I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew that and I know that. I do have some like I do want to wish all of you seniors to come and see what we do at the community center anytime. We're there in the office from nine to two.

Rosie?

I have no comments.

Okay. Let's go to the other end, Jeanette. Okay. Richard.

Nothing at this time. Thank you.

I'm shocked. Well, I will say a few words. I noticed we have quite a small pile of reports to hear from staff, and it is nice to have a working agenda and things happening here. I appreciate the effort that's gone into what we are going to be hearing here shortly. And so I will spend less time pushing my fellow committee members to come up with stuff for us to do because I'm very pleased to see that we have actionable items on our on our agenda.

And I appreciate you be you being here as our sole public commenter. My wife was going to stay, but the trip in from hand from distant handicap parking parking kinda wore her out. So I sent her home to recover further. And I believe somewhere in what we're about to hear, there are comments about making the city of Fullerton seniors more aware of we our existence and what we're trying to do here. I certainly want to push that as part of our agenda.

Where the some of the few that are willing to show up and do something, I want everyone to know it and to call upon us. Okay. That would seem to finish communications and reports. Do staff get a word in here or do we move on to the first agenda item?

Yes. And we actually do have a small little presentation for you.

Please. Go ahead.

I was waiting for the PowerPoint to get up. Because you're probably starting it's that short, so it's

very small. Oh, yes. I remember this in our email.

Yes. So as you can see, next slide. For our net for upcoming meetings, our next one's gonna be Tuesday, August 12. And then the following from November 11, because that is a federal holiday, we will be giving you the date of what November will be at the August meeting. So we will be rescheduling the November 11 meeting.

And the last one, our last slide just really goes over numbers of how our attendance has been at our different programming that we've been offering. As you can see, our numbers have been going up. And also with us doing the working plan today, I thought it was important for you guys to see our attendance numbers that we've been having. Our grocery distribution has been going up almost every week, I'd say at least a few 20 to 50 more people are going as well. The first three Thursdays of the month are was when we do our grocery distribution and then the other numbers for all of our ongoing programming as well. And then the technology assistance does help. I don't want to break any rules, but talks about our goals as well too that we've been meeting. So we've had 48 attend from March to May.

Right. We're going to have to see about getting that last number up some up somehow. Could you go back to the first slide for just a moment? I did have one curiosity when I saw the very first one, the title. The picture. I recognize some people in it, but is who is this a picture of?

Our Fullerton Senior Club members.

Okay. Their board. Since you don't have a picture of the

Of us.

Of the actual committee. Alright. Too bad we don't have a photographer in the at the front. Okay. Thank you.

Can can I I say something?

Please

do. This is a very old picture. This is like three years old. I just wanted to let you know. That's not the current the current board.

Alright. Alright. So

And then our last slide is just highlighting the senior golden masquerade ball that we have coming up on May 22 from five to eight. There'll be raffle prices, light light refreshments, and then dancing all night at the community center.

Thank you.

And that's it.

Nice slides, Sue. Okay. Other staff communications communications and reports? No one's leaping to the microphone. So I guess now we move on to the consent calendar. Would one of you care to move to approve the very very short consent calendar that's on the next page? I so move. Do we need a second?

I'll second it.

Alright. Secretary, please call the roll.

Yes. Member Herzl?

Yes.

Oh, sorry. Member Herzl.

Oh, sorry. Just a little fuzzy on the last names. Yes.

And member Nelson is not currently here. Member Ossette?

Yes.

Member Reese?

Yes.

I like her. Member Welsick?

Yes.

Vice chair Kroll?

Yes.

And chair Harrison?

Yes.

Passes.

Okay. So with the minutes approved, I believe we have a presentation to be given to us.

Yes. There is no PowerPoint for this one. It's more of a verbal discussion for us to have but to discuss our senior advisory the goals and the working plan. So to go over what we had in '24 and '25 and then to discuss future as well for 2526.

We have our printouts so we can read along.

Yes. So of our goals, as you can see, I'd say of the three of the four, we've met pretty well the communication to reach more seniors. The senior transportation program has done very well, very been very well attended. And with the technology class, would say, yes, it does show 48, but that is volunteer led so that we did have classes that did have to get canceled at certain points due to numbers of reasons why they weren't able to teach the class. I'd And say maybe community involvement would be the one that we could possibly improve on for next year as well.

And then with at the end of all of this, the recommendation is to review and discuss the community our 24 goals and outcomes, and then begin identifying new or updated goals for the twenty five, twenty six senior adviser committee work plan. And then in our last meeting, we discussed about voting to confirm Todd Todd chair Harrison as the designated city council liaison to senior adviser committee. I figured that was a good time to tie this in because we are talking about 2526 as well. So as you can see, going on hopefully, you all do have the twenty five to twenty six work plan as well. These are just ideas. I did wanna bring it to you guys to get your input as well to make any changes to any of these. So I'll give you a second to read through that if you haven't, and we can discuss the different goals, add new goals, take away, do whatever you guys would like as well too.

Thank you. Just catching up to the written. Okay. Alright. That was shorthand for two pages of reading, so bear with me a moment.

Like, if you'd like, I can go over each goal, but I just want I didn't want it to be like I was creating this work plan for you guys, but I can easily go over the ones that are on there from 25 to 26, and then we can discuss at the end if you wanna add more.

Yes. I think to give, this rehearsal, a chance to catch up, let's do that.

Okay. Yeah. Could you at least hit the title and summary of or sorry the title and outcome of each one please?

Yes. For the 2526 to confirm.

Oh well. For future. Actually for the 2425. Go back. Since we have members who have not been with us for '24.

Okay.

So our first one of our first tasks or goals was to advise advisory body to city council. Was the one develop communications of ways to work with staff and city council, and that's where we have is a goal to improve on for next year as well too with the bullet point number three of voting Todd, and then try to do as well monthly reports, to our city council. Improve communication to reach more seniors. We did do that. We've created on channel three, we have some flyers.

There is the we do do social media, but I understand a lot of seniors don't do social media or digital. So we do have all the flyers at the communities community center, and we've passed out different flyers at different organizations. And I believe we even did a mailer at one point as well as mailing different things out as well. So that was task number two. For promoting our senior transportation program, that is why we worked with Okta.

And if there was anyone that was signed up for, like, the OC access, the bus version instead of the taxi version, we did mail out saying, Hey, Fullerton does offer this taxi program and we did get sign ups from there as well too. And our taxi program is very well utilized. It is used constantly. There's always a Yellow Cab taxi at the community center as well coming in and out throughout the day. The technology training was to help seniors become more comfortable with technology, enabling them access information services online.

The strategies was to create different programs. We ended up working with a volunteer. Danny. Danny, who is a member of the Fullerton Senior Club as well, he teaches monthly classes at the community center. We did get those iPads donated from the Office on Aging, the seniors' grants. So we do have iPads that they can come in, they can use. And it goes over like YouTube or different topics of how to do create emails, anything along those lines. And then our last one would be where we're at now, the review and the planning of getting ready for the future as well.

Okay. You spoke for the communications. You spoke of a mailer that went out. What was that mailing? What is the source of that mailing list? Who was getting this?

That was for the people that are signed up for the OC Access.

Okay.

Mhmm.

Last year's in in the fall. Sorry. I don't if I'm allowed to answer that. It's not a comment. Sorry.

Did any of the other committee members have quick questions about that? Yes. You have.

I have a question. In terms of your outreach to help seniors be aware that this exists, have you done anything with the Fullerton Observer? Like an ad or an article or anything?

Yes. They did run our when we had the spots open for the the bodies as well.

Okay.

The positions. Sorry. I'm sorry. Apologize. I was out sick yesterday, and I'm still recovering from not feeling well yesterday, so I apologize. But yes, we did we have worked with them. They did pick up our when the positions were open here and they ran our flyers on there.

Okay. Good. As we talk about this this and next year, I have some suggestions on that, but we will get to those in the appropriate section. Any further questions about the twenty four-twenty five? Okay.

I Then

do have one question.

Please do.

Who puts out it was a magazine like that went out in the mail called Fullerton Fun, I think. Who puts that out?

We do Parks and Rec.

Oh Parks and Rec. Okay. Thank you.

Okay. So I guess that moves us. Oh hang on. Put my agenda go on. We move on to the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. Work plan, I presume. Let's talk about that one in a little more detail. Please go ahead.

Okay. So our first goal is to increase senior visibility in the community, and the objective would be to help seniors feel more connected, seen, and included in Fullerton Life. Examples of community led activities could be you guys organize a senior day at the park or a similar focused event, attend and represent the committee at city hosted events and information fairs, for example, like our Thursday our weekly Thursday farmers market, you guys could have a booth, anything we have going on at the hunt or anything along those lines, have a booth. Partner with local organizations to share stories or history exhibits. For example, what I believe remember Susan talked about her organization and trying to work with them, the North Orange County on different that'd be an example of a partnership of working with them.

Any comments? Do want me to go read them all through or go through one and then discuss each time?

For the benefit. Excuse me.

Yes. So I submit for you guys' comments too.

So okay. Yes.

We Chime in whenever you want.

Please. We'll go

with that. On.

Okay.

One's colorful and one isn't all black, if that helps. The twenty four twenty five kinda has blue writing on there and the twenty four twenty five is all black text. And we're gonna share we're gonna try to get it on the screen for you guys as well.

That would be helpful.

Alright. We're ready.

That helps. Thanks. There it goes.

Okay.

All right. I'll comment and dissect some of these after we've gone all the way through it. Okay.

Then our Please

please continue.

Okay. So our second goal is to strengthen access to essential resources, help seniors connect with services beyond recreation, including health care and housing. Activities are create a senior resource guide, digital and print, host quarterly information sessions with local experts or service providers. For example, that could be done at the community center in one of classrooms. We partner already and do a lot of these already, but we could definitely have it be hosted by the senior advisory committee or something along those lines.

And then recommend new partnerships to support aging in place services. Our third goal is to advocate for age friendly city policies, identify ways Fullerton can become more inclusive and accessible for older adults. And the way it's going be done is conduct reviews of city amenities and provide recommendations for age friendliness. Those could be done at, say, when you guys are participating in the booth, so it kind of crosses off both goals, goals one and three, beginning seniors' feedback opinions while you're also there promoting your guys' self being out. Explore and promote full chance participation in the ARPA Age Friendly Communities Network.

We do a lot of work at the community center with ARPA. And then submit formal advisory letters to city council with community approved feedback, which we already have that on there as one of our options for today. And goal four is build intergenerational relationships, so foster connection and understanding between seniors and youth in the community. Some of these activities will be launch a mentorship or buddy program with local students or youth volunteers, Host an intergenerational game night or a collaborative project. We can possibly for example, that could be working with the library.

Every third Saturday of the month, they do host a games day at Humpbranch Library that is free. So maybe something along those lines, we could do something there with them. And then prepare an annual report to city council would be the last goal. And then provide city council with a summary of the committee's yearly activities, progress, and recommendations. An example would be compile key outcomes, meeting highlights, community engagement efforts from the year, vote on the final report and contact and recommendations at the end of each calendar year, and then submit the approved annual report to city council and present at a scheduled meeting if requested.

Okay. Well, we we do intend to request that of the city council. We have some city councilors who are amenable to having us give a report, so we will probably have have that have that happen. Okay.

And after you guys' comments, any changes, any ads? If you want to add more goals, change any goals, add or remove this is what this I

have comments on practically every one of them, but I don't want

to

monopolize my mighty chair of the committee powers. So please, anybody have anything to say on any of these items?

I think you should go first because I think you'll spark some brain matter in us once we hear what you have to say.

All right. Then let me go down my very short notes here for goal one of increasing senior visibility in the community. Given the issues of electronic communications to an electronically underserved population which we're addressing further down in the list I suspect there is not currently anything actually printed and distributable about the activities of this committee. We have your little graphic on when we on when we meet next, but there are groups such as my senior community HOA that meets monthly. In fact, that was last night.

There are groups where something printed, be it an information card or even an entire one page flyer in small quantities to hand out would be very useful in my in my opinion. If nothing like that currently exists and I'm not aware of any would it be possible. Does bulletin staff and parks and rec have the resources to create something like that that we of the committee and others can then distribute in the places and groups we frequent. I heard at least one from adjacent. If it needs direction from us, we should put that on the agenda to ask that to be done.

But I'd be happy to hear your comments on what I just asked.

Could you clarify WeHu somewhere. You mean the public or.

We us us as a committee. This is not the own. This is by a long shot not the only thing each of us does. And I suspect most, if not all of us, have places we go and people where we meet in groups where something we could physically hand out or make available would be useful. I see more than one head nodding. Uh-huh. Steph?

Yeah. I was gonna say I was gonna ask for much more clarification. I don't think that need to come back as an agenda item. It could be part of this because part of the communication goals is would you want, like, a flyer advertising the senior advisory committee and what you guys oversee, and then that's what you guys can pass out? Because we can easily digitally create that and then email it to you guys, or we come by the community center over city halls, parks and recs desk upstairs as well too, and we can give a stack of flyers out to you guys. Stack of 20 fives of quantities at first or however, is that what you're looking for more so? Like, when you go somewhere like, hey. I'm on this committee. Here's a flyer about what we do and have information on

there.

Yes. Something emailed initially that we would have a chance to comment on leading to something printed in modest quantities that we can pick up and distribute where we think it will it will do some it will do some good.

If you want everyone's opinion on it, that will probably have to be an agenda item that you have to vote on versus possibly with Todd being the main person in communication. Could I work with just Todd on creating that flyer? If you guys would be comfortable with that, or we can bring it back for an item in August for you guys to have.

My my only concern is the financial impact. I wanna I wanna make sure that it's low in in that area and raise it as far as getting it to the community.

Mhmm.

I know there are avenues already out there as an example on channel three.

Yes.

I think that could be improved. I look at it and I think this committee is lacking in representation.

On there?

So if we can hit the low fruit first and then build up to something, you know

Yeah.

A higher schedule. Just I think we get all the low fruit first.

I will take your word for it on channel three. There are insurmountable technical issues in channel three reaching some of us. I, for instance, cannot watch channel three. Yeah. In where I live in Fullerton.

Yeah. So I got it for you. I appreciate that. I without raising it to the schedule of an agenda item that we could not even comment on for three months, I would like us to proceed with something electronic, and perhaps email us to email the committee to allow us to independently suggest comments as to whether we like it or not. If that can can that slip through, or does that become an agenda item?

Yeah. When multiple people are discussing, a flyer in this case.

I don't mean among ourselves. I mean independent replies to the staff. But if that has to be an agenda item, I really don't want to put off creating something at least digital and approvable in possibly small quantity printed front. But I, with all due respect to the city's budget, I know Parks and Recreation cranks out a lot of paperwork and flyers. And I suspect that we could get a limited print run-in without it being a huge budget impact. So

But I think we have a very competent staff. And if we just, you know, say, hey. Mhmm. Use your your gifts and talents and present the committee as you see fit because Yes. They're pretty good at it. Right? I've seen some of the stuff they put out.

I I I

think I I I quite something so low as a priority, I think they can do a very creative job and well represent this committee and and get the word out sooner. Than having to go through agenda

I've and I'd like that very much. And speaking for myself, to the extent I can without it becoming an agenda item, I would like to see something tangible printed in hand when we meet again. That's three months, which hopefully should be I know how busy Parks and Recs and all of the city agencies are. But with three months, is that a sufficient window to produce something printed and electronic and something printed in at least a small quantity?

Yes. To stay with our goals of communication. Yes.

Excellent. And

hopefully, should be to you sooner then as well too. I will be out again on leaves at the June. So my goal would be to get that tea before I go out on leave in June.

Excellent. Then I am

not take three months that way.

Then I and I think my fellow committee members with are all very much for that. Anyone want to speak against? No? Is that sufficient per the rules? Excellent. Okay. So much for number one. Actually let's keep these batched one by one. Any other comments on goal number one? Now that I've sparked discussion.

Any other comments? Going once? Going twice? Goal two? I this feels like what we just discussed feels like the first step in a senior resource guide, just telling people that we exist and they should come to us for assistance and suggestions.

Yes. Goal one was more like you guys getting out there in the public and actually having a booth, a 10 by 10 space at different events was goal number one. Yeah. It was physically getting out there more so than the communication side of things.

On that, I, for one, for a some weekday and for Saturday events Mhmm. I can commit to being a committee member at those. Now that we are seven I believe that up to three of us can attend an event without it being a quorum and therefore something that has to have advanced notice. Is that correct. Okay good. So if parks and recreation schedule such an event and we have

Sorry. That's

a week or two advance notice. Mhmm. And it's and it's on a Saturday. Boy, I'm hedging this in tighter and tighter. But if it is on a Saturday, I I will be there. Okay. And I suspect another member or two will show up. And if by some miracle four of us show up, one of us will go home so that we don't so that we don't constitute a formal committee meeting.

That

works. Okay. All right. So that's number two. Number three, advocate for age friendly policies.

I have one suggestion for advocacy that I believe I raised to the city council. But now that we are met as the committee I can do so more enthusiastically. The city holds Parks and Recreation hold a number of events that seniors do do come to Mhmm. From the planned fireworks and the market and everything else on down. Given my own transportation issues and the more severe transportation issues of some of our public commenters, I have seen previously a lack of disabled or senior access to these events.

Not that they are held in venues that are inherently unaccessible, but in that issue such as parking and city access services can be somewhat unfriendly to them. When you have a event that granted fills a city block or more, having the nearest parking, including the nearest handicapped parking being two or three blocks or the drop off for the taxi service or any kind of shuttle being two or three blocks from the event becomes a problem. Now it's more of a burden on our hardworking police and on staff organizers to organize a shuttle or a corridor inward for disabled drop off or something like that. But I would like to see some effort from Parks and Recreation or appropriate others on making these large events more senior and handicapped in general accessible. It's not necessarily the venue's fault but it's a matter of how the priorities used in organizing access to the events that I believe has been underserved in our particular case.

I'd like to make a comment.

Please do.

I was approached by a woman a few weeks back who said, it's very difficult because it's hard to get wheelchairs, etcetera, up curbs because it's, you know, just just to step on a sidewalk. And I know you can't we can't turn around and take things down in the city, but I think that more consideration for that in the future, we should we should really think about that.

I I fully agree, and I've been commenting city council about better curb cuts for new for new construction, which comments got kind of ignored. As we build our report for the end of the year, I'm going to ask for that to be in our report that exceeding the current national standard for what a curb cut constitutes when they rebuild sidewalks anyway needs to become a city goal. Richard. Anyone else. Okay.

Any comments you can come back to at our next time about that will be appreciated. O four, intergenerational relationships. Fullerton has a youth advisory committee. I've heard mention of it in the council meetings. I've not heard much else about it, and I don't know if they've met much or at all.

I'm seeing negative head shakings. Is and I wanna be careful about not asking for a judgmental opinion, but are there any signs of progress on that? Or has that to the best of your knowledge, has that stalled?

We are doing our best to get the committee to meet. We are having the quorum problems, so of meeting quorums, which is why they have been canceled monthly is we're not able to get to the quorum. But we are addressing it and working on ways to get it to work.

How old is the committee?

It's from seventh seventh graders to seniors.

Okay. And how long has it been in existence?

Since August.

Thank you.

I for one would appreciate being emailed if a if the quorum problem is addressed and they actually meet. I would like to be sure that I know when that happens and I will appear before them, to suggest that they something they can do is, the mentorship slash buddy program, hooking technology aware younger people with the older people who are very much in need of technology assistance. Some of my limited time goes into electronic bill paying for some of my senior neighbors who have their free or otherwise government provided cell phone or iPad as it may be, but yet can't master the idea of, okay. Here's the bank account. Here's the phone bill I have to pay.

How do I log in? Get a password. Do this. They are functionally incapable of growing to those steps. And although they have the accounts, they need someone who can lean over their shoulder and say here we'll just tap this here and here here's the money you're paying them by pushing this button. So involving the youth committee when and if it fully exists I think it should be a goal of ours.

I have a few comments about that. I'm a member of OLLI the Osher lifelong learning institute at the university and we're all

we're all

seniors and we have a number of students a bunch of students that want to connect with us. So we have partnerships that way. And the thing that makes it I mean, it's great because if it's great in a number of ways, but there's also the gerontology center. I mean, not the gerontology center, the gerontology division over their department. And they they are always looking for people seniors that students can talk with and interview and get to know.

So and I think it's really important for our socialization that you know, because so many I mean, heck. I was sick the last two weeks and I spent the entire two weeks alone in my house. And that's not good for your brain. You need the interaction. And so I would I would just I would look at our resources that we have in the community.

Absolutely.

K. And then as we locate those that you described where they are unwilling to help, and I mean mean to speak to doctor Charles from the council because her connection to ECA. As we locate them, then we have to find the seniors to send them to or to send the seniors to them. And that's another kind of outreach that kind of falls on us to do is to make the senior end of the connection.

There was there was another program too that was really interesting, and that was during COVID. And I don't know if it's still continuing, but the university was going to, I think, make it part of their program. But it was finding seniors who had an open room to rent and for low cost students could come in and rent the room in exchange for helping with cleaning and things like that and I took in a student and it was really a neat experience. Really a neat experience. So I'm just saying there's options out there and there's ways to get access to the people and I don't know how you get access to seniors unless you come to Ollie.

Okay. Let's you and I connect later about that Okay. Because that is something I can push to my community's HOA because there are a lot of rent paying challenged seniors with space where something like that could happen. Okay. Further on of that number? All right. And goal number five, prepare an annual report to City Council. So what do we have? Three meetings left before the end of the year or two?

Two. Two.

Two. So our next meeting needs an agenda item about that report so that it can be produced in time for us to approve at our last meeting so we do actually have something to take to the city council. I don't want to let our infrequent meetings cause us to slip by. I very much want to be sure that by the end of the year, we do have something concrete where staff or one of us can stand before the city council at a regularly scheduled city council meeting and say, you formed this committee for us to advise you. Thank you.

Here is our advice. I want to make sure that this actually happens. Above and beyond everything we do ourselves for to try and help the seniors, I want to make sure the original mission of this committee to advise the city council does happen this year and that something formal is presented to the entire city council. Is this something we have to agendize for next It's time

our next item.

Oh, it's our next item. Okay. Why don't I why don't I turn the page?

Oh, it's, it's our whole whole separate item from this one. Excellent. It was our letter to city council.

Consideration. Yeah. There there it is. I I should read ahead faster.

I do have a question on on number five.

Yes.

When it when a representative is standing before city council, how much time do they have?

You have the public comment of the three minutes, and that's where you can't we talked about this last meeting, Sierra, if you wanna clarify that.

If you wanna clarify that we understand how much time this committee has to present to the city council. So it's three minutes, and it'd be under public comment.

Correct.

Yes. Unless, go ahead and interrupt me if I go off the track go off the track here. Unless one of, unless we as a group or one of us individually acting for us as a group can convince a city council member to have us agendized to present a report. And then that report, be it from one of us acting for all of us or from city staff, is not limited to the three minutes. Correct?

If it's an agenda item, no. It's not limited to three minutes. Public comments for that item are still three minutes.

Okay.

But the presentation for that report would be from staff. It wouldn't be from the committee members. So staff would be making that presentation.

Okay. But a committee member or more could be available to answer any council questions about that report. And as far as I know, the council could call upon them in asking about the report once the report has been presented?

Yeah. Committee members can be present at the meeting in case the mayor or council member asks a question.

Okay. So but it would be to be an agenda item, it would be a report by staff?

Correct.

Okay. We'll dissect that further when we're actually talking about that agenda item. Thank you.

And then to go off of goal number five as well too, we do have a monthly report that can go to city council that after each time we met we meet, we can send them a bullet point of what was discussed. So, like, the example of today's would be that we discussed our goals '25, '26, and we'll highlight our top five of what they are so they will see it at their city council meetings. It would be part of their agenda packet under those

So those who wish to read read about it can can do so, but it's not a formal report?

Correct.

Given in public.

On today's date, and this is what we talked about, and this is what they voted on in the report.

Okay.

Yeah. The report is given to counsel at the council meeting, so it is a report an agenda report. Mhmm. So the public can see it as well.

In the supplemental materials?

No. It's actually an actual item on the agenda. It's a consent item. It comes at the beginning of each month.

Okay.

It's, the attendance and committee reports.

Okay. But in the city council agenda on its blue paper that's available every month, those detail those bullet points would not be reported or would be reported?

If, we have a report for council, those would be on there. Yes.

Okay.

As an attachment.

As a as as an attachment. Okay. Further questions on number five? Have we resolved number five? I guess Mhmm. We have done that. Okay. There is nothing really to vote on here. Is that I unless I missed something?

There are. Yeah. And then we'll have to go to public comments before you vote.

Okay. Okay. Maureen, do you have anything to say or any other public comments on this topic? Well, hang on a moment while the microphone travels.

Thank you again for allowing me to speak. Number three, says, vote to convert confirm Tom Harrison Todd Harrison as the designated city council liaison to the senior ad advisory committee for 2526. My thing is now is this going to deny Todd the right to speak in public comments? Because as everybody knows, it goes to city council. Todd is such an eloquent speaker, and that is taking away his time to comment on things that he wants to, or does he have to use that time to speak for the senior advisory committee in public comments?

I don't personally, I don't think that's fair because this is an official city committee. So he should have two separate times to speak. Am I right on that?

I believe that wait. Mhmm. Sorry. My I'm sorry. Didn't quite hear that.

Mhmm. Okay. Right. Mhmm. Well, since I consider this committee important

Chair, she still has a minute

for for to Sorry. Please continue.

I I was finished. So that's the whole thing because I I I don't like to take your time away from public speaking because you are so eloquent in doing so. And to have to use it for an actual city committee is not right. I feel it's not right. But there's rules and regs, so that's the whole thing there. I wish this committee could meet every every month like all the rest of the committees. So because there's things that it things can't be done. It takes forever to do to wait three months. And since you can't talk to each other in the meantime, that makes it rough. Anyway, I'm finished on that one. Thanks.

Great. I'll I can answer that in one way since we have found out that a summary of what we do here is presented to the city council. And I believe you said it's becomes part of the consent calendar, or does it become a agenda item?

I believe Maureen was referring to the public comment section. Yes. It is just three minutes. It is right. But as the liaison, you can always email city council as well.

Okay. Alright. But my question is specifically is It'll And you told me this already. I apologize for my sketchy memory. The your bullet pointed list of what we do that is presented to the city council when we do things, does that go into their consent calendar, or is that an agenda item?

It was consent, you said. Right? A

consent item is an agenda item.

So yes. Okay. So it is a it is a consent item. Mhmm. Excellent.

Then I can address Maureen's comment about unfairness quite easily since it will be a consent calendar item. I have the right to ask a city council person to pull that from the consent calendar for public comments and then make take my three minutes as a public comment specifically on that item without stealing my time from general public comments or public comments on any other agenda item. So don't worry Maureen. I will get to speak those three minutes specifically on that without taking time from anything else. And I think you overstate my eloquence but I appreciate the compliment on the same.

Yeah. Just to clarify, it is up to the discretion of the council Yes. To pull a consent item.

Yes. Someone on the

You can always ask.

Someone on the council has to be willing to pull the item. I understand that. But provided they do, there's there's those three minutes. Further public comments? Did we end up with anything to vote on?

Just for the record, I don't have any hands raised in Zoom for public comments.

Thank you. Since we apparently do not have anything to actually vote on.

There there is. There are three recommendations. So you you will still vote.

K. So the recommend various recommendations we have made in this and the things we are asking parks and recreation in particular to handle for us. Would one of you care to make a motion to vote on whether we want this done?

You're looking at recommendation number one. Correct?

Yes. It's as a whole. All three.

Everything we everything we've asked them to do.

I don't wanna do that.

Mhmm. Okay. Oh, Can I make can okay?

Hang on a sec. So I'm looking at this. Okay. I want to address number three separately, or should I address it now? What is what is the guidance before

we vote?

Can vote you can pull the recommendations separately if you'd like, if you wanna vote on them separately.

Yeah. Number three, wanna pull separately and have comments before we actually take a vote on that. Okay.

You're talking about number three in the '24, 25.

Right here. Yes. So so we're at this point right here. So we're making recommendations here to vote to approve these. Yes. Go ahead. Okay. So go ahead and do one and two and then we'll pull three. Is that correct?

Need a second motion.

Right? Yeah. So we

can I call move that we pull bullet number three as a separate item to discuss?

Did you wanna bring it back to council or votes? Just vote separately? Or I'm sorry. But did you wanna bring it back

to council? It today. I just want to

Okay. Well, then we'll do one and two right now.

I'm sorry?

We'll do one and two?

Correct. So on the 2425

a second.

Committee working plan, I what we have asked of the ask of staff for number one and number two is what we would be voting on. Mhmm. First. Do you shall move?

First. Yes. Yes.

Shall move. And second?

I'll second.

Okay. Please call the roll.

Okay. And this is to approve recommendation one and two only. Member Herzl? Yes. Member Nelson? Is currently not here. Member Osbeck? Yes. Member Reese?

Yes.

Member Walsick? Yes. Vice chair Kroll?

Yes.

And chair Harrison?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay. I Richard, you had things to say about number three?

Yes. I do. If I may, these are my comments, and I'd just like to share them with you before we vote. If you could please take one and pass it down. The, clerk already has one in hand. So at this meeting, this this vote to confirm Todd as the designated city council liaison to the senior advisory committee, the the wording is a little wonky. So I think the wordage really he he's already a member of the advisory committee. So it should be a representative from the advisory committee going to the city hall council or, you know, the city council. In reverse. So the so the wordage is is a

little Yeah.

It's not clear. But with that in mind, the, committee liaison officer to the city council acts as a bridge between the specified committee and the city council, facilitating communication, providing support, and ensuring agreement between the committee's work and the council's goals. So therefore he's a communication facilitator. The liaison appointed is the main point of contact between the committee and the city council. As a reminder, in the role as a liaison, you communicate the, consensus of the official stated of the committee rather than individual viewpoints.

This helps maintain clarity and unity in our representation. Information they keep the council informed about the committee's activity progress and recommendations. And advocacy, the liaison may also advocate for the community's needs on recommendations before the city council if directed by the city advisory committee. So my closing remarks is thank you for your thoughtful discussion and presentation today as we move forward in considering Todd as the designated city council liaison to this and it should be for the city advisory committee for 2524. Let us remember the importance of this role not only as a communicator and advocate, but as a steward of our collective voice.

This liaison helps ensure our work stays aligned with the broad goals of the city council while championing the needs and insights of our committee. I am confident that Todd will serve with integrity and clarity. Thank you again for your comment and

Thank you, Richard. And I will comment that this ends up just sort of formalizing something that is already kind of happening because at most city council meetings, which I try to attend every one, either before or after one of one or the other of two city council members, and you can guess which two, will ask me what's with the committee? Mhmm. What's what's what's been happening? And I have

been

informally giving them my opinion of our progress and my take on all of you I I to do so I have great your support. Help.

With help. Confidence in what you're saying, but but I just wanted to make sure that if you're going to represent this committee that we do it with one voice.

Mhmm.

You are very eloquent. You have such a silver tongue. My concern is that with that silver tongue, with only three minutes, you might deviate a little bit. And so I want to make sure that you have all the tools that you need to represent this committee and to stay focused and just, you know, make sure that the committee is well aware and is well supported and hand in hand.

Excellent. And I think our actual agenda item coming up on that topic is results in making it clear for me in what information I want to pack into the time I get.

Excellent. I just want want the committee to know how I felt and hopefully everybody is in agreement. That's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

That I think is keep losing my place. That I think is sufficient for us to vote on number three. And can we include the other following at of other following asks of the staff in that so we have one more vote to do on this?

Correct. You need a motion and a second motion and a vote to vote on number three.

Oh. On number three.

On numb on number three and not sweep up number four and five in that?

No. Just Okay.

There's yeah. There's no recommendation four and five.

Okay. Then number then it has been moved number three has been moved. Somebody will second it.

Who was that?

Wait. Wait. Back up.

Who moved? Who moved?

I'm sorry?

Did it who made the motion? Did anyone make a motion to pass

Richard just made that motion.

I did not.

Oh, sorry. I apologize.

I support, but I don't wanna make the motion. You don't want

to make the motion?

I'll make a motion.

There we go. Will you second the motion? I'll second it. She'll second it. Okay. Moved and seconded. Please call the roll.

Okay. Member Herzl?

Yes.

Member Nelson is not here. Excuse me. Member Osbeck? Yes. Member Reese?

Yes.

Member Walcic? Yes. Vice Chair Kroll?

Yes.

And Chair Harrison?

Yes. Although I'm voting for myself, so that's self serving. But yes. Thank you everyone. Now if I can get back to my papers and perhaps you could put twenty five, twenty six on our screens. The 2526 senior advisory committee work plan. We just we just voted on it. Sorry. That was that that was completed.

We're on to item number two now. Yeah. Oh, three. Sorry. Three.

I am again laughing. Cons we are at consideration of committee report to the city council. Yes.

So for this one would be what we've been discussing about getting the letter in the report. The difference of this one is is with the recommendation number two is it can to go with, Vice Chair Kroll's comments is identify one or more committee members to assist the drafting of the letter in coordination with staff. So it's everything we've been discussing at length of what we want to take to city council that we can work on as a report.

Right. And so if we so direct and that allows us to complete such a recommendation without having to go back and forth at our next committee meeting and Correct. Makes the cycle quicker than three months to reach a to reach a letter.

Yes. It says if approved, the report will be finalized with input from selected committee members and submitted to the city council prior to our next quarterly meeting or council update. That's the very last paragraph on the background and discussion. This is a very short agenda report, this one is.

Right. Okay. I guess that was the presentation. Yes. Right. Public comments. Maureen, do you have anything to say?

Again, thank you for allowing me to speak. What is going to be in that report? Is it going to be things that each individual, one of you have accomplished or have discovered and the things that you have presented that, as I say, have been completed and adopted by the city, what is going to be in that report? That's my thing. Because if they if people don't see what what you're doing, they'll think, big deal.

So I think everything that each one of you accomplished should be put in that report. I hope that's agreed upon, but maybe it's not allowed. Everything has to adhere to the Brown Act, so that's why I was asking. But I would like to see exactly what each one of you have accomplished. Thank you.

I see no further public commenters in chambers. And since you have a microphone, do you know if we have anyone in Zoom?

No. No one in Zoom.

Okay. So that closes the public comments portion of that. And, you said that this could be accomplished fairly quickly to have something to give to city council, that would summarize up to today's meeting, before our before our next before our next meeting. We're putting a lot of stuff into play here, but I think certainly unless anyone has any arguments with it, the conclusions for '24, the what we already looked at and agreed about 2024 as our first agenda item should be and could be summarized and given to the city council without probably much further considerate discussion with us. So I think that should happen.

And if by the end of the year, we have a report for 2025, then city council gets two reports from us in the same year, which is probably a good thing in my thinking. Just any discussion or comments on that concept of getting 2024 promptly in front of the city council so they they know formally we exist and we are doing things?

You're alluding to bullet number one correct?

Yes. Direct staff to draft and summarize an annual report that's full of the city council summarizing the committee's priorities and recommendations. Yes. And, that is certainly pretty much done for 2024. After all, we're, what, half a year past 2024 already. Telling city council what has happened in the last year, seems like a good thing to me. Further comments on that one? Questions from staff on that one?

Not a question. Just wanna make sure there's more clarity on this as well too. For one and two, it's where I would be working with whoever the members that want to help work on this letter with me as well too. So I would draft it, and then I can send it to you to the two or three, no more than three, that were selected for this part to help would see it and review it before I send it to counsel. So it's not like you just telling me right now, and so I don't misinterpret anything. I would be working with Right. You guys members as well.

Excellent. As chair, I would like to be one of those three, and I'm certainly welcome

I was gonna recommend that we have three members. Okay. Two. Only because I think transparent Only because I think transparency is so important. And based off of what I what I previously read, it gets more of the members involved in what's being put together and what is representing the committee. I could. And I and I know just by looking to my right and to my left, there are there are a few women here that are so talented in their fields that they would be an asset to this group of putting it together.

Okay. So we need since I'm pushing myself to be one of those three, there's two more slots. I think you, Richard, want to be one of those slots. If the others oh, you do not.

Is this where we make our recommendations?

Yes. Yes. Okay.

And it'd be part of the motion like I motioned for x y z.

I am open to the rest of this committee saying they want a piece of this. She's open on the end.

Susan, are you interested?

Okay, Susan. You would be one of you would be one of the three that they would we would be exchanging emails with about what is in our report for 2024 that would go to the city council.

I'm perfectly willing to serve. I just wanna make sure I'm the best qualified since I'm brand new on the committee. I that's the only and, you know, I I Well, going full. Going full.

I see that too, but but who I was alluding to I'm sorry. I forgot your. Rosie. Rosie. I was thinking Rosie and Reese Oh. Is who I'm recommending.

I think I think somebody that's yeah. Been yeah. I I can't speak much what the committee's done since I'm brand new. Yeah. I

I

appreciate it.

Are you amenable, Rosie? Yeah.

Yeah. That's my recommendation.

Thank you.

That's nice. Okay. We are clear about the three?

We need we need the motion.

We need the motion.

Okay. So I move that we adapt one and two, the three individuals for bullet two being our chair. And the official counsel Janet Reese. Janet Reese and Rosie. Rosie.

Cleaned it up. So moved.

So moved.

Someone seconding? Go on. You know you want.

I'll second.

Okay. We have our first and second. We can are there any questions from staff about what we're voting on?

I'm good. Are you okay? Yeah. I'm good.

Okay. Member You may call the roll.

Member Herzl?

Yes.

Member Nelson is not here. Member Osbeck? Yes. Member Reese?

Yes.

Member Walsik? Yes. Vice chair Kroll?

Yes.

And chair Harrison?

Yes.

Okay.

Wrong piece of paper. Where'd my script go? Here we go.

Okay.

Does it's not on the agenda, but does anyone have a wish to amend their opening remarks? Anybody got something more to say before we call this an adjournment? Last chance? Going, going. I will say thank you to my fellow committee members for making it here to this, keeping us a quorum and more than a quorum. And thank you all for your help and advice and input. No. This is just I simply I simply pick this thing up, tap it very lightly, and say, we're adjourned. Did you say elbow? I'm sorry.

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