Powers Financing Authority - Regular Meeting

Alright. So I officially started the webinar. As of right now, we do not have

a forum.

Mhmm. So we'll wait a few minutes. Think

we need one more.

What's standard weight type?

Pretty much of a standard.

I mean, probably no more than ten minutes. Okay. I'm I'm fine waiting time. I haven't received any confirmation that anyone isn't showing up. Okay.

In the event that we do not meet quorum, do these items become prior matters at the next meeting?

We should be able to bring this to the next bring it up to the management just to verify, make sure I'm consistent with the other committees. I believe all are I wanna say towards the beginning of the review except variance might be a little later in the review period. So I don't know if we will have time to

bring that one. Understood.

But the others text amendment's fine. Right. Service station should be fine as well. K. Hello.

How are you? Doing okay. Very good. We have quorum. Alright. So the time is 05:32. I'm sorry to roll off.

Chair, Albert Sanchez. Here.

Vice chair, Debbie Darden. Absent. Committee member, James Sponsler. Here. And committee member, Ashley Morelos Guerrero.

Here. Perfect. Alright. We're gonna move on to the approval of the agenda. Any changes to the agenda?

No changes. Perfect.

So I'm going to ask for the motion for the approval of the agenda.

Motion to approve.

And can I

have a second? Second.

Perfect. Approval of the agenda, that passes. Now I'm gonna move on to the approval of minutes. Do have any changes to the minutes?

No changes.

Okay. So I'm looking for a motion to approve minutes.

Motion to approve.

Oh, really? Very good. Thank you. That is approved. Alright.

So we're gonna move on

to project review. We're gonna start with the first one, which is tax amendment application number P2601326. The California government code section, as I mentioned, establishes a statutory framework that requires cities to adopt, update, and implement a compliant compliant housing element as a requirement of state law. The city of Fresno, which is the applicant here, is preparing a tax amendment a text amendment which would amend sections 15 dash one zero zero two, 15 dash one one zero two, and 15 dash one five zero two. There's also a 15 dash five one zero two and fifteen dash six eight zero two.

The Fresno Municipal Code to permit the following. Housing developments with at least 20% of units affordable to lower income households shall be permitted without discretionary action to appropriate densities, consistent with objective development and design standards on any non vacant site, identified in the prior housing element, and a vacant site include in two or more consecutive housing elements in compliance with government code section six five five eight three two. Such a housing development would also not be subject to CEQA and would not be appealable. Do we have a presentation?

We have.

Hi there. Can you all hear me?

Sure can. How are you?

I'm great. Thanks for having me. Adrian Azadorean with the planning and development department. Thank you for that great recap. I was I was gonna read that myself, but now I don't so thank you.

I appreciate it.

We just wanted to provide an update. We are providing this update to all council project review committees. As mentioned in the summary here, the city is preparing to the development code. We are required to prepare this text amendment per state law that does permit, as as noted on the screen here, housing developments, you know, with at least 20% of affordable units to lower income households without discretionary action subject to the provisions referenced in the paragraph here. So we are preparing this in compliance with our housing element, which is a requirement of state law.

So just wanted to make you all aware of the text amendment that we are preparing. This will be presented to the planning commission for their recommendation and city council, following planning commission recommendation. We are still confirming dates, but we're hoping for, early summer to, present that to the planning commission and city council. But I'm I'm here to answer any questions you may have. And just to clarify, the, permitted without discretionary action does mean that housing developments that do meet the criteria as noted here would be permitted ministerially.

So they would be permitted through a zone clearance, would not be required to go through the typical discretionary process. Other permit applications are required to would not be required to go to planning commission or city council. So I'm here to answer any questions, but just wanted to provide that update so you are all aware.

Understood. Adrienne, does this apply to applications that have already been submitted but not officially approved and or built or everything from here on moving forward?

So not at this time. So this is not in effect. We have not presented this to planning commission or city council. So if the city council you know, this is a requirement of state law. So pending city council approval, it would then go into effect after that. So it does not apply to any projects at this time.

Understood. Do you guys have any questions?

Yeah. I

do. Do you have any questions to tell?

I do have a question. So the last line that says it won't be subject to CEQA and would not be available, is that what is being made standard across the state, or is that specific to Fresno?

Yeah. So this is per a requirement of the the state bill, the the law that we are required to comply with it. It is not subject to CEQA. I do wanna confirm on this this piece about not being appealable. We are confirming that internally whether it is appealable or not.

But the piece about it not being subject to CEQA is as part of the state law. So these types of projects would be processed as a categorical exemption. But the piece about not being appealable, we are confirming. So I'd be happy to once we do confirm that piece, I'd be happy to follow-up with Nick and just provide that update that he can share with you all at a later date so you are all aware of that.

How

is this going to potentially affect designated or eligible historic districts in the in the city? Because there are some areas that have vacancies that are either, currently designated or are deemed eligible, that would have vacant parcels in them. How would they make sure that they, you know, maintain that integrity and and things like that?

Yeah. Absolutely. That's a great question. So in in the summary on the screen here, it does mention that the projects do have to be consistent with objective development and design standards. So, you know, in an area like a historic District, you know, we have for example, in the Tower District, we do have objective design standards that were recently updated as part of the specific plan update process. So the project a project would have to conform to those design standards that are in keeping with, you know, the surrounding area. So as part of the zone clearance process, the project would still be required to comply with those objective design standards.

So the the reason I asked this, Adrian, is because, yes, you're right about it being a the Tower District just had its new plan put together and things like that. And, you know, we do have things like the downtown plans and things like that. But, typically, our our historic districts do not actually have a a design. They they have design elements that are expected, but not necessarily do they have an objective, development design standard. So, what could potentially happen here is you could have somebody that could argue with this, this property this example comes in.

They say, I'm gonna build right here. It's a vacant lot. It's not in the Tower District plan. It's not in the the the community plans. And I'm gonna build right here in the middle of, you know, we'll just go with Wilson Island, which is north of Tower District and is not necessarily fully subject to the the Tower District design plan.

Now you have somebody building a five unit, you you know, minimum of five units because I see it's 20%. So they would have to at least at least build well, I mean, they could technically build a one unit, But, you know, if we're looking for, you know, potential, return on investment, it's gonna be probably a five unit with one of them being for affordable to lower income housing. That doesn't actually comply with any of the look and feel of the district. So I do think that that's something that needs to be addressed when we're start when we're starting to look at this because at some point, we know that our our deemed eligible and and and historic districts are in areas that are financially stressed in a lot a lot of cases. And so it's easier for a developer to buy cheap, quick, vacant lots or even properties that are, you know, essentially derelict property and and do this kind of work.

So I I'm concerned about how that would affect those types of properties.

Yeah. No. And I I appreciate that and think that's a great point. You know, again, I will say we do have I know not specific to historic districts, but, you know, right now, today, if someone were to develop, you know, a single family home in a historic district, you know, obviously, as you mentioned, we don't have those specific standards. I will say, you know, the development standards do still apply, but completely understand, you know, to your point, it's not specific to the historic district. You know, definitely something that we can you know, I I will take note of, and and I appreciate that. I think that's a great point.

Okay. I I do have some questions about demolition risk as well. How does this potentially create a situation where somebody goes comes in and says, I'm going to take my property. I'm gonna demolish it because now I can go ahead and build my own brand new unit and four other units on it with one of them being affordable to low income. And I can bypass, you know, pretty much many of the current actions that are required during that type of development. What's the risk of of, you know, properties being purchased, demolished, and then replaced with a with a qualifying project under this amendment?

Yeah. So I do wanna clarify the non vacant site piece. So where a nonvacant site would apply here is it does have to be a nonvacant site that was identified in a prior housing element. So it can't just be any property that, you know, someone decides to demolish. It does first have to qualify as being a non vacant site that was identified as an eligible site in a prior housing element.

And then beyond that, so the zone clearance process is only applicable to the planning side. So the standard building and safety process that applies today for demolitions would still apply in this instance. So the only difference is the entitlement on the planning side would be the zone clearance, but the project would still have to go through all, you know, standard processes as as today on the building and safety side for demolitions.

Okay. Approximately, how many, potential parcels does the city think this will actually be applicable to if it was to be, current today? Yeah.

You know, I don't have that number, on hand. It is identified in our housing element. We we could, I'd be happy to pull that and share that with Nick who can forward that along to you.

Okay. Well, because I know that the housing element does note the vacant sites, like you said, but you said two or more. So I'm sure that there's some additional sites that have either, become vacant in the current housing element that weren't necessarily vacant in the prior housing element. So there there's a bit of a an overlap, if you will, between those that may have been vacant two or more before versus the current housing element.

Right. Absolutely. Yes. I'd be happy to look into that, and then I can I can share that through to Nick who can pass that along?

Okay. Perfect. Everyone good? Alright, Adrienne. Thank you so much.

Thank you. And if you have any questions, my email is here. Please don't hesitate to to reach out.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Alright. You're moving forward.

I I would wanna make sure that, Nick, that we get that addressed with regards to those types of not just the district, you know, specific district plans, but also potential historic districts and deemed eligible. So that you're not seeing an, you know, essentially a a a whirlwind of development in in areas where they go, oh, well, it's cheap to buy property here. And then now we've got, you know, faceless stucco apartments because I could do I could do that, and that was approved.

Yep. It kinda just gets shoved through.

Yeah. I have a a kinda general idea in a sense about looking into and considering how this would impact those historically. Can always add that. I mean, I know it's state based or but I can still put that in. Right. And and I

know it's I know it's state based and and and things like that, but I also know that there are certain protections that that is that at least fully formed historic districts do have, but it's more of a a question of making sure that that we as a city have those in line as well before before we start implementing a lot

of these processes. Just what I'm saying is even though we're not asking for recommendations per se because of that, I'll I can add it to the minutes just so it's on on record if you will.

This like, would it be, like, codifying design standards in specific areas?

Yeah. It would essentially be something along those lines where you say, you know, if you're in an area that has you know, I'll I'll pick up the Wilson Island again. You know, it's kind of very eclectic. It has a lot of it goes between essentially craftsman and and new federalist options. So, you know, a pro pro parcel would have to, you know, a new parcel coming in would have to have a similar design element Yeah. To those properties and not just be something that is, you know, the the least essentially, the least expensive option that could be made by somebody.

Yeah. I see the intention, but I also see the issues that could arise. Does item a require public comment?

That one, I did not

see an answer on. I mean, I guess anyone could comment. It's on our agenda if anyone wanted to comment.

Yeah. So we're just gonna stick to the rules here. Yeah. And open up

the floor of the

public comment pertaining to this item application P2601326. Anyone online?

Okay. Perfect. So I'm gonna move forward.

This particular item does not require any kind of motion or anything, so

we're just gonna move on.

Item b, variance application number P2600094. This application was followed by Denvinder Body of j or excuse me, GTJF Investments LLC, pertains to the point seven nine acre property located on the Northeast Corner Of Calaveras And B Street with the address of 1540 B Street. The applicant is requesting authorization to permit the existing six foot runner and perimeter fence at a two inch setback from back of the sidewalk. The parcel is zoned r s Dash 5. Do we have any kind of any kind of presentation for this?

Sorry, Devinder. No.

I don't have. No? Okay.

But there are pictures attached to the application.

Yes. I saw the pictures. Thank you for that.

To that, there we go.

Have a couple of questions, so I'm gonna open the questions to you guys first if you would like to chime in. Sure.

What's the because I I know, obviously, you

need to put on that.

Is is six foot allowed in in this particular

zone? Maximum height, yes, outside of any required front setbacks. Six feet. If it's in the six foot or within the front setback, then it would have to be brought down typically to three feet. Okay.

So is there so I'm assuming that that that if this goes through, there have to be a variance because of the fact that there is essentially front front yards.

That and then we also have the requirement must be 12 inches behind back of sidewalk. So that alone requires a variance because a minor deviation wouldn't get in there. They're only two inches from sidewalk. So that alone, but also could very well be because of the height as well.

K. We know that the standard setback is 12 inches from 12 inches from the back of the sidewalk. This one sits two inches so there's a 10 inch difference here. Yep. Okay. So the qualifications for a variance are typically a hardship. Is that right?

One of the findings.

What are the other findings that would qualify for a variance?

Pull it up on the screen. Let's try to make it as soon as I can.

Thank you.

Pretty lengthy and detailed.

Sure.

It's okay.

So the research that I did talked about land hardships. So that talks about parcels that are, kind of unique in shape, not necessarily a square rectangle like this one. Some that have, unique slopes to the property can be a hardship. Essentially, parts of the of the parcel pertaining to the property that make it difficult or unrealistic to to follow that setback of 12 inches. But there's more. Correct?

Yeah. So I would kind of fall along the lines of number b Okay. Findings. That's regarding physical hardship, which is not of the opposite own actions or the actions of the predecessor's interest. In terms of an irregular shaped property, I'd probably more so find you a, exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or conditions applicable to the property that's not generally, the same for other properties in the area. Something regular about the property in a sense. Okay. Application will not be detrimental or injury.

Your property or improvements in

the vicinity, that's c, inconsistent with the general purposes and objectives of the code. As d.

Go ahead.

But those would be the four that would base our review on for variance. Okay.

And in looking at the letter sent over, talks about how this is a six foot fence. Is essential to protect residents, including children, reduces vandalism, trespassing, criminal activity, and I and I did read through that. However, one of the things that I noticed about this particular because it's a one way street at this particular intersection. And at this intersection, the gate comes all the way, two inches exact, away from the back of the sidewalk. And at that intersection is a school crossing.

And that to me is a problem. Because the setback of the fence reduces the visibility of a driver in the event that they were gonna have to identify someone crossing the street or a pedestrian crossing the street needing to identify a vehicle. I do see that the fence is essentially see through, if you will. But that still acts as a hindrance that could make a big difference in someone's ability to identify a problem or a safety hazard. For that very reason, I think it's most important to focus on the safety of those individuals crossing at that intersection.

And for that reason, I I feel like we need to do everything we can to make this fence compliant with that 12 inch setback.

Would would you be willing to entertain that at least that just that corner needs to be compliant with that setback?

Yeah. If there was So so if

it cut if it cut deeper across the corner so because I know it's kinda you can kinda see where it's it's dog here.

Yes. Mhmm. But if it was

to be that it kind of cut in, came came back, say, you know, we'll just say 20 feet from the corner Sure. It actually then reverted back to the full 12 and then tapered that would be more of a pedestrian improvement for that.

I I would definitely put my 10. Okay.

So we're really talking about maybe 40 feet linear effects.

Yep. Yeah. Right at that corner. Right at the

corner of that crosswalk. I can't tell by by the images or anything like that. And maybe, mister Bhatia, you can you can explain. Are they are the panels individual panels, or are they welded together as one fence?

They're individual panels. They're individual panels. Yes. But the only thing these are these are post concrete to the thing. Right? I'm willing to do the 12 feet on each side as I've shown the whole. Actually, there is no there is another blind spot, though, as you mentioned. I agree with you. It's a one way street, and the cross street is Kalaburaj. Right? Yes. The from Kalaburaj, you can only go right turn. Yes. Right? Or from B Street, you can go right turn again to get into Collaborate. Right? Correct. Because B Street is one way. Right? Mhmm.

So I'm willing to entertain that corner to move the fence as a edge corner, probably to both sides. I'll fix that. Not a problem. And and the other things, I think that the main issue, what happened is when the builder I'm the buyer. I'm not the builder. Right? I'm entertaining the changes, what you guys are recommending me. Right? Right. Builder did not took the permit. Right? I I was not aware of it. So I the whole thing is I'm putting security codes on the cameras with security gate on on the gates to get in. I also installed a 24 by seven monitoring camera so they're safe. My reason my reason is that tenants are more safe than this fence. It's six feet high. And that's the only reason I'm trying to do

that. Obviously,

I think when the multifamily units were approved, we should have changed the zoning at that time to multifamily as well. I agree. It should not have been left as a residential zone. Mhmm. I would not have been here if we would have taken care of it, but I was not aware of it. I just bought the property. It was running for a year. Right? And your city inspectors have proved everything good to go. And I I acquired a running we have a new property after one year. Then I after one year of running and second year of home, there's some. Right? So I'm willing to do the actually, a feed through fence. If you go there, it's not a blind spot at all. I don't you can see, k, the, but I can make that 12 feet change there. Not a problem. I'll entangle it.

That would be ideal. Not

a problem.

The other thing that I see, and I'm not sure if these photos are still representative of what's in that area, but there are what appear to be three California palms growing.

I'm taking it out. Wonderful. Yeah.

I'm done. My my

Palm tree, I can chop it off. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. It looks good.

I will plant it in the middle of where the gazebo is. Yeah. I was gonna Either I will either I will cut it or uproot it, put it. There's only one palm tree in

the corner. Yeah. Sure. I was gonna note that because it looks like that if you pull us up on Google Street View Yeah. In 2023, the the that that Palm's a volunteer.

Yes. It got it it

the seats flew some from somewhere. It landed there. So I just say pull it out, get rid

of it.

Yeah. I will. I I will. Yeah. I am from

Bay Area from Livermore. Okay? I I I'm here. Like, first time I'm buying property in Fresno. Right? First time experience here. Mhmm. So if you look at the property, it's a very nice property. Mhmm. Giving a a very decent tenant tenants tenants that live there. So I will take care of that. So I will be at least you guys start sending court enforcement letters, which I was going crazy. The lady who told this court enforcement did not pay me rent for six months. I lost money there. I'm losing money in the fixing also. Yeah. So no problem. I'll fix that

if you have a twelve

twelve feet there. But the thing is the two inch setback on the thing is if I get the cost I I don't think installing that either I move two inch, put three feet. Cost is very high. So so what you guys gave me the court gave me two options in the beginning. One option was cut the fence off. Take the fence off. Okay? Second option was to cut the fence with four feet. If you cut fence four feet, anybody can jump in. Right? So I think it's more for safety reasons. Right? And I will you I would appreciate if I can fix the hedge by 12 feet, both sides.

Yeah. That's that's the biggest thing. Is it just I'll take care of it.

I'll take care of it. No. I already put it in the blind spot. The blind corner. It's not a blind spot. If you look at it, it's peeled through. It's not a wooden fence. It's a railing fence. Right? Sure. It's visible, though. Who was who was the original builder? It's like a that it can

Well, Syncow is the builder. So

who was

the prior owner?

Oh, the prior owner.

It was the builder or the owner?

The builder was the owner. Okay. So it

was Syncow.

Yeah. I think the name is mentioned there in the application. Right?

It just says that it was installed.

His name is not good, since I asked one sheet, it it passed on the issue. If you look at the last one sheet, it passed on the issue. Yeah. Okay. You know, that is the truth. This property, the guy cutting corners, he did not have any Internet. Okay. He put the satellite dish Mhmm. With a 100 megabit kind of every every time. Right? I got on they took the problem. They they retrenched trenchless thing they did to provide one, two megabits. I believe.

Okay.

Since they carry out, I think one, I think I won't play MCT, but I think when the multifamily was approved, hence, should have the only would have been changed at that time. Perfect. Did not he by the way, I know all get away with this, but I would it's a mistake happened on both sides.

Perfect. Okay, mister Bharti. Thank you so much. That that would be our recommendation would be to take that corner, bring it back to allow or to eliminate the obstruction from either a pedestrian or a vehicle.

No problem. I'll take care of that. So are

you guys supportive of what is shown on the drawing? Or you're at are you recommending a greater visibility triangle? Right now, it looks

like that he's he's offering a To pull it in. By 12. A 12 foot both sides.

Both sides. Mhmm. So let's see. So I

see that corner. I believe that's

what we're talking about. Mhmm. Let's go back. Make sure we're on the same page. Okay. So we're supportive or just so we're on the same page. You see on these corners, along the alley and then along the intersection. Why why the alley?

Yeah. Why is the one

down here recommended? Just one down? Yeah.

Is it is it to just follow the same rule?

Ali is a Ali is a stick Ali as it is, and the whole lot is empty here. The quarter is empty here. Right? Yeah. There's no much in the I have no idea what's going on on that behalf. Right? My property line is not well, my building is not there at all. So it's It's that little parcel is somebody else's parcel.

So, yeah, it's asking for a 12 foot visibility in the alley that's on somebody else's parcel and another adjacent parcel that actually has a wood fence.

Yeah. That is somebody else's. That's not

Why are we why is the why is the request to have that done? I don't know

if it's a request from us. That was just proposed on the exhibits. So I'm sure it's gonna come up in a condition that we're not reviewing an adjacent parcel. Okay. I would expect.

And then if we're based on the findings, if we can meet those and these visibility triangles if you will are sufficient, then we may before the course with approval, you know, after our review, but I would imagine a condition would be set that we're not approving anything on adjacent parcels. Typically, these visibility triangles are on the size of drive approaches. I guess, it could be applicable maybe to an hourly and it does allow for visibility. On the corner, it's usually more it is a triangle per se, but it's measured a little differently. It's based on the type of streets when we create this triangle.

You know, it could be 30 feet on one, thirty feet on the other, and then create the triangle. In some instances, it's a 100 feet on one side and then 20 feet on the other, and then it creates a triangle. These are just kind of thrown out there as just, hey, just a 12 by 12 triangle, which you'd normally more so see on the sides of drive approaches, not necessarily on an intersection. Got it. So it's just what's being proposed to us as, hey, this is what we're providing to kinda help us to be supportive of the variance. So I don't know if it's necessarily per the code exactly. I guess it's what I'm

gonna say.

Now you said it depends on on the street. Does it depend on what the set speed limit on the street is?

No. It's the type of street. So whether it's major to major, local to major Collector. Then it can Arterial. Collector to arterial. It'll change the distance that you measure on whichever street and then creating that triangle. So it doesn't usually create just

a standard general 12 by

12 what you

see there. And

assuming Caliber is considered a collector. Let's see.

Caliberius is looks to be actually a local street.

A local street.

And then B Street is a club. So it's a major street going into a local or vice versa. Okay. I mean, the 12 feet could very well be sufficient for our our standard measurement requirements. A lot of times, depending on these measurements and depending on the width of the sidewalk pattern, Sometimes it doesn't even go into the property itself, like usually the sidewalk pattern could be enough. So it very well could be that that standard 12 inch or 12 by 12 triangle is sufficient, but that's not technically how we measure those on the intersection. Okay.

Do you have any more questions, Ethan? No.

I I think it's pretty straightforward. I think the the twelfth was fine.

I think, yeah, that that meets the that meets the issue

for sure. Okay. So we're kinda sounds like supportive of what's being proposed in terms of the 12 in or the 12 by 12 triangles. And then I believe you guys mentioned about the the palm trees just getting those removed. Yeah. For the visibility side.

Correct. Okay.

So and and I wish you luck in in possibly, you know, gain gaining some dollars back if if you pursue the developer for the time that they they need to go through all this.

Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, mister Badi. Thank you for investing in Fresno.

No problem. Thank you.

You know? And exploring this neighborhood, this particular project is very nice

to look at.

We were we were thinking to buy another one, but then based on I I've been through quite a bit. It's better to be local. It's easier.

Yeah. Well, thank you, mister Biden. No.

Thank you. I appreciate you guys approving that. Thank you. Have a good day. Take care of that. So once I fix that, well, we do I need to arrange some city inspector to look at it?

No. We're still going through the

variance review on the planning side. So, ultimately, we'll still wait till we get towards the end, and then we give our final recommendation and potential. I don't necessarily know if there'll be conditions per se or maybe, but we just have to wait till our review is finished and the planner assigned will be in contact with you along

the way.

I do have one final question. That is so when you replace it and you put it that setback, it is gonna be wrought iron as well. Correct?

It's the same thing. Okay. What I need to I need to I may cut the The post. Take the post. Right? And I think first few panels may go away. We put the, again, post back. Got it. But cut the palm tree off. Just the taper it. It's gonna be same same I think same panel will be used for that. Okay. If I want if I buy you, I'll buy you, but I think they can be used.

Perfect. Thank

you. Take that home out or else we can keep Not in your time. I alright.

It look nice, but I'll put it out to the the people.

You. Okay. Thank you. You. Moving on here.

Do we need to come again or

we're No. We're good. Like I said, the plan will be in contact with you along the way, and then we'll come on when we get the at the end of our review.

Thank you, sir. I appreciate you guys' time.

Thank you, mister Brian. Okay. Okay. We are moving on. Okay, guys. Bye. Thank you. We are moving on to item c. Condition of the instrument application number P2503983 and P2600801. This pertains to annexation application number P2503971. It's a plan amendment rezone application. And that number is P2503990. This is brought forward by Catherine Otis of Site Design Collaboration on behalf of Mavericks. Do we have a presentation for this?

Hi there.

How are you? Doing well. How

about you guys? Very good. Welcome. Appreciate your time. Hi. My name is Kevin Dice. I'm from Africa. I'm a site development manager from Africa, and I'm I'm the one that's kinda running this through Catherine and Catherine Otis and Farm and Shear. Farm and Shear's on on the call. Perfect. He they are our civil engineers that are designing the site. After we get through the site development portion and the annotation, everything, then we'll move into architecture and things like that. So we are a little bit off this time, I mean, in terms of of getting this through. Very quickly, if you go to the next page. Is the aerial.

It's showing the site that's on the Southwest corner of well, really, it would be the Northwest Corner of Whitebridge and Marks, but it's just south of the highway right

there. Something

of significance here that you can see there's a stormwater management pond in the corner, which we are working with the city. That's a city owned pond that was put in there, they believe, during the reconstruction of the interchange and everything that was going on there. And the city is willing to allow us to relocate that up into when we get to the site plan, you'll see it to the upper left hand corner as long as it meets the same volume and size and function of the the of the use of the stormwater management pump. It it takes into consideration some of the land that's on the East Side of Marks and everything else. Next, please.

This is our overall site plan. You can see where we are locating that pond to the upper left hand

corner of there. Mhmm.

It will be designed, like I said, to handle all the volumes that that pond currently handles. It will be landscaped and fenced in as well. So it'll be kind of a better looking pond than just a

full underground right now. The

overall site, as you can see, we have the building that will be backing up to Marks with on the front side, it will be a forecourt, which would be used for automobiles and and trucks and things like that. Then we have what's called the high flow or commercial lanes, which are behind, and that will be able to handle RVs, semi trucks, larger vehicles, vehicles pulling trailers that that that that could come in and it will have both gasoline and diesel. One more thing. We're showing a CAT scale on there, which is all the way over right by the Star Wars manager. The there there are two accesses, one off of Marks.

That would be a ride in ride out because there's an existing median on Marks. The other one will be off of White Bridge. That would be a shared meeting with any type of future development that will occur with the remainder of the land. Really quick, just a little bit about about Maverick. Maverick is a family owned business. It's still owned by the same family that started it in the nineteen thirties. The current operation is under the Flying JFJ Management. That's our umbrella company. And they did own Flying J, the big the larger truck stops at that time. But family sold off sold that off.

They're concentrating now on the Maverick development as well as some other ancillary developments. That gives you a little bit of history on that. I think something that's very important to point out is that we are not a truck stop. Meaning that if you go to a Flying J or if you go to a Pilot or you go to a Loves or Travel America, they have certain amenities there that we don't offer. Mainly, we don't offer, overnight parking where trucks will be there idling.

We don't offer trucker lounges or showers. We don't offer Internet service. We want them to come in, fill up, purchase some things in the store, roller dog, the obligatory roller dogs, and and things like that, and then move on. We do have a security protocol that ensures that vehicles don't stay there overnight. Okay.

Overall store stats, the store is just under 6,000 square feet. We're open twenty four seven, three hundred sixty five days a year. We employ between eighteen and twenty employees. Of those eighteen and twenty employees, 80 to 90% are full time employees, not just part time employees. Some of the things that that we love to point out is all the benefits that the employees get.

We do not franchise our stations out like you'll find with seven Eleven or with the MPMs. We own everything, and all our employees are w two employees. They we have a full package of medical, dental, everything else, disability. They offer tuition reimbursement not only for the employee himself, but we also have a program for their children. They they are subject to a bonus program depending on the performance of the store.

And there's growth opportunity. I would say probably 60 to 70% of the upper management people that are for operations and things like that start in solar. Okay. This is just an overall view of the different items we have. We put this in here to, obviously, to to talk about that we have hard goods that are prepackaged, but we also make freshly made items as well. We do pizzas. We do salads. We do sandwiches. We do hamburgers and cheeseburgers, which are our our prepackaged burritos. And, of course, like I said, the roller dogs, which, you know, everybody knows what it is.

Then something we also like to point out is that we do bring an economic benefit to to the area. Not only do we bring, you know, employment opportunities, but the local use for landscapers, for cleaning up the parking lots, for repairing of the lights, for other building repairs, like roofing, HVAC, things like that. We don't bring people in from from Utah or then and that's where Maverick is headquartered in Utah. We don't bring them in from from out of state for that. We we like to rely on on local people because we can get good service, and

we're there at a convenience.

And this is the overall elevations of the building. This is our typical building. I'm not sure if you've been to our store that is open and operating in. It's right off the nineteenth. If you head down into into Lamar, that one's been operating for almost close to a year now, and it's doing very well.

That's where we'll be this this store right now architecturally, we'll just like that store. This this is the side view and front view. Now that feature in the front, that's an entrance feature. We call that the doghouse, and that's the highest point of the building. The parapet wall, which will screen all of the HVAC and other equipment that's on the roof, that's at 19 feet. Now the doghouse goes a little bit higher, but that's that's the only thing that would be above 19 feet on the on the screen. These are our typical gas canopies. These are the colors. That doesn't exactly your for the canopies. There's very little signage on on them.

It has our Maverick logo, which are mountains and also left an m and adventure's first stop. It's the same for both. This is our trash enclosure. California is very specific about the type of trash enclosure that we can build here. Has to have a metal gate, a site type metal gate, no less, to to open up.

Now we we this is a two bay. Now we have to do a three bay because per the Calgren regulations, they also have to do the recycling. So it will be three days. But it's a CME block as well as and depending on on the jurisdiction, sometimes we have to put a roof on it. Standard colors that that we have, we do brick as a wince coat.

We do a harden board that is of of different colors, and that's the palette of various colors for the fascia, the soffits, and on and around the canopy as well. This is the overall floor floor plan. If you look at it, the checkout is on right in the middle between the two entrances that come in. In the upper right hand corner, that is what we call the beer cave. That is that can be locked at night so that per a b c regulations, we well, when they say we have to close down sales at 10:00 or 12:00, whichever the jurisdictions prefer, we lock that.

There are two cases that you open up that are outside as well that, depending on the jurisdiction, if you can have singles or not, I don't believe the city allows singles. So that will have, like, six packs in it. We can also lock those cases. The rest of the cases are for soda, water, and other beverages. This is our signage package. It just shows a little bit of what the signage would be on the front and on the side and again, on the canopies. And that's the end of my presentation.

Okay. Couple questions. Is this intended to serve local residents, or do you feel like this is gearing more towards regional traffic?

Both. Both.

Yes. How do you

feel like it caters more does it cater to one over the other?

Well, I don't have a breakdown as to what the overall traffic numbers would be in terms of local and pass by traffic, but we are definitely looking at at at the traffic along the the highway because it's an easy on, easy off. At the same time, the the North South Of Marks does service a lot that that's in that area, Tennessee.

Okay. What is the long term vision for the remaining of the acreage?

Maintaining of the acreage speaking with the landowner, they they are trying to sell it off to a developer that would do some type of other commercial build. So the remainder of the lot, the the overall lot that we would be on, that that's in purple right there, it is gonna be a CMX zone. So that will allow other commercial development to come in. And therefore, that's the reason why we wanted to do a shared development instead of having a number of different entrances who have a shared development and shared access, I would say. Shared access coming into the site.

I'm struggling to understand why you're requesting the corridor center mixed use. The corridor center mixed use that I'm understanding is gearing more towards a walking centric experience. But we're starting this project in the first phase with, of course, what Maverick is gonna offer. And that's all catered towards vehicles. What was

the reason to to have the CMX? That was the zone that the city wanted to put in there with the annexation. We were looking at a a less intensive type of commercial zone in there, but they said per the general plan or the future of of of of what's going in there. That's that's the zone that they designated for that area.

So the city has designated the CMX? Yes.

Because with just really quick. I'll With the CMX seven, there there are certain design requirements. Like, we had to keep the the building up against the the roadway. They wanted that that backed up because it's it's of a I hate to use this term, new urbanism type of look and everything else, but they wanted they wanted the buildings to be along the roadway. That. So that that was one of the design team. The overall landscaping is more intensive as well. There are certain lighting requirements along the streets and sidewalks and the landscaping along the sidewalks as well.

Does the landowner have any commitments for the long term use of this land?

No. Not at this time. Again, the the family that owns this has has owned this parcel and a bunch of other parcels down. They they they're not contiguous, but down the area as well. They're an old farming family, and they are not developers, so they are flipping it over to a developer. But we're working with them to make sure that their vision of what they want, we we can help provide. And that's mainly with the shared access and the shared pond that that that we're going to

be moved.

Got it. Thank you for answering my questions. So

I think you kind of hit on a couple of them because my quest one of my first questions, I mean, why a 119 acres Yep. For a essentially for a gas station. But I I do have a couple of others. Are is this gonna be subject to the responsible neighborhood market ordinance? Yes.

For offset offset alcohol. So so do we know so for if you're not familiar with that, there is a a policy an an an ordinance within the city that essentially says when when an organization's coming in, you have to and you're purchasing a liquor license. Mhmm. Okay? You have to retire one way.

Mhmm. And and, you know, one of my concerns right now is I know that you're right now technically in Census Track 86, which currently has four. Mhmm. I don't know exactly how many it's permitted for that that census track, but one thing you'll find out is that a lot of our census tracts are oversaturated Mhmm. Because there's been a lot of times that we've just said, yeah, go ahead and and have it.

The other thing I'd like to, you know, just note as well is that given the the way that our our census tracts sit, we would actually be the next one next door directly across the street of Marks Avenue 7.02, which apparently does not have any right now. But there's a subset further down 7 one that has six. So there becomes a concern about concentration. The other concern I had, and I don't know if it's still active or not, but there was at one point a recovery home approximately about a thousand feet from where your proposal proposed site is. And so, obviously, we don't wanna necessarily feed into somebody else's addiction as as they're, you know, as they're still trying to come out with it.

Overall, I I like the plan. And it's a good plan. I I do want to make sure that we are being, you know, prescriptive to the Southwest Pacific Plan, as well as I wanna note that the area that he's bringing in, you know, there's a a southern portion of it South of White Springs that's gonna be residential, and the portion that's north of it is is the the CMX. However, directly to the west of that is still county land is the zone manufacturing. So I would be very cautious as we go forth that this stays commercial mixed use and not that we come back into a situation like we have right now on Elm Avenue with people saying, well, I didn't know it was commercial mixed use.

I wanna go back to manufacturing. You know, I wanna go back to to light, you know, light or heavy industrial. Right. And and manufacturing is is the county's definition of industrial. So, you know, we don't wanna necessarily see that we we see that fall back. So we need to be respective of of not only the business coming in, but also be perspective of the residents that are currently there. Yeah.

To be clear about the overall parcel, we will be pursuing a lot line adjustment or a lot merger. Okay. On this so that we would only be purchasing four acres

of it.

The remainder of the land will remain in in the the the family until they get somebody else to purchase it or they find commercial use for that area. Yeah. Who so who's bringing up the rezone? When we initially looked at the site, we talked with the county. And the county said, this is in the sphere of influence of the city. You need to talk with the city, because of the general plan. And, we went and talked to the city. The city said, yes. We we want to annex this into the city because it's a finger going into your Yes. Into the city

right now.

Yeah. And this will square it off. And so that's the main reason on that. So it is within the sphere of influence. We've been in talks with LAVCO and everything else, and they're saying, yes. This makes sense because of of what was stated in the general plan and and a specific plan for both of

for the city. Got it. Nick, so because this is currently part of the county, what happens with the water and and the sewer and storm drainage? How does that work? Who pays for that if it doesn't exist already?

I wouldn't know all the ins and outs of that. It's probably more a question for public works and utilities in terms of fees and who takes care of that. I would have imagined at least on private property, of course, that would go towards the developer in terms of hookups, getting hooking up to new city, sewer and water that would be regulated and determined more so by public works and utilities.

Do we know if if it it's at the street? Yes. It is. Uh-huh. So it's already there.

Currently, there is sewer and water both in Whitesbridge and in March. Uh-huh.

And what we will end

up doing is we will and

and it kinda ends right at the intersection, obviously. Okay. Because the city boundaries on the other side. Mhmm. So what we will end up doing is we will end up extending, and it's rather large in terms of of pipe size, both sewer and water down to the end of our frontage.

So go down to where the, shared access road is. So according to our, meetings with the city as well as public works and with sewer and water and everything else, they once the annexation takes place, obviously, they will allow us to extend that down and connect into it. Now the overall plan for the entire area here is, particularly when it comes to storm water, is that about a good mile away, mile and a half away, which would be to the west and to the south there, there there's a plan for a larger pond or a larger facility. I hate to say pond because some of these are larger facilities. So that would depend on the development that occurs along Whitesbridge and to the south, you know, when that would actually occur.

And the extension of water and sewer along Whitesbridge all the way out to where the end of this, where the annexation would end depends on what would occur with development. Now, we did have a community meeting because that's part of the requirement for the annexation, and we met with, a number of citizens out there. It was held at the school that's at the towards the end of White Bridge. And we had a number of people that came out on that. We had the city staff was there as well as lab lab co staff was there. We had public works there and everything else. Minutes were taken. They were submitted to to the planning department so they understand what what came up, what the questions that

came up.

There were mainly two questions that came up. One, will my taxes go up? And at the time that they they were talking about it, the staff did not do an analysis of what the taxes would be. However, they do believe it'll be between 24%, somewhere there. Number two was do will we be required to connect up to all of the public facilities that will be put in White White Bridge? And the way that because a lot of these people have their own septic. They have their own water, wells, and anything. And public works says, no. You will not be required to do it. However, if you do any type of significant improvement, say you build a new house or you put a subdivision in, then you will be required to connect into water and sort out, public water

and sort for the city. Got it. There is a property okay. So going back. So Maverick acts as the anchor to make a site suitable for future development. Give me an example of where that happened first.

You mean for us? For you. Oh,

okay. So to just give you a little bit of rundown what we're doing in the area, the larger area itself. So currently, we have Lemoore that's open. Mhmm. Then as you go south, we have, right there, Cart Mill in 99. We have it's it's a Tulare, Tulare. You'll have to excuse my fluent accent. That one is part

of an overall development.

There's a Chick fil A going in, and there's a few other things going. We're under construction on that one. The building's up and tanks are in, and they're they're they're coming along really well. That one. Then south of that in Delano or Delano, again, my pronunciation. That one, we just got under construction on that one. So they're doing grading on that one. Then finally, we're looking at Visalia, and that's on one I had to write this down. That's on 198 and 156. So as you're going towards the mountains on 198, you you get off after you pass Visalia, before you get to Farmers, the the exit that you go down to Farmersville, then we're going on that.

That's a larger industrial development on that one too. Visalia, Delano, and Tuare, all three of them, we are the first ones in on that. And and that's one reason why, Chick fil A came in because we're a compatible use, and and that works. The Visalia one, it's gonna be an industrial development. It's gonna have some self storage in that one, but at the same time, they're subdividing that for a hotel and some other uses that would be helpful for tourists that will be coming in and out, you know, to Yosemite and that area to support them.

For Guano, we're across from the airport right there, and it's the same thing. There the remainder of the property there, we own part of it, and we're going to subdividing it eventually and then flipping that off. That would be for a hotel because we're close to the airport.

With those projects, do you know if there was a rezone utilized for the property where those sites are?

For and I forgot Madero too.

We're doing one up in Madero. Is there one in Ceres as well?

Say that again? Is there one in Ceres as well? We're looking at that right now. We're in the process of that. There there's a little bit of controversy with that one.

And so but we're it's a typical entitlement issues that are coming up on that one. So, again, for Delano, no. For Tulare, the developer rezoned that so that when we bought the parcel for that, he already took care of that one. Now that that that's an interchange, which is very conducive for that that type of commercial use. For Visalia, that one, I believe the developer also rezoned that, but that happened a while ago because he did an industrial development a while ago with that. So all of them, yes, they went from agricultural to some type of either industrial or commercial use.

And who's spearheading the entitlement?

Is it the property owner or Maverick? Maverick. Maverick is spearheading it. Farm and Shear, who is on, he is our civil engineer and his Hello. Staff are the ones that are on this and and really want to work this.

They're great civil engineers. So I I'm so sorry, mister Scheer. I completely forgot you were there.

No problem. I I apologize. I, I I I I did wanna introduce myself. Yes. I'm, pharma and Scheer with, site design collaborative.

Catherine and I work together, and we're, civil engineers and, assisting with the entitlement with this project as well. And, Kevin, also, as part of the gateway into Maverick going in and maybe promoting additional development. Another project would be thermal is a similar situation where we're going in with a lot of you know, when when our projects go in, we install road widenings, and we do utility extensions. In this case, we are relocating undergrounding power poles along Whitesbridge. We are widening the road.

We are extending sewer and water mains. So, you know, some of those public improvements that are near the intersection are getting handled by our projects. So it kind of encourages any additional development in the neighborhood. So

yeah. Mister Sheard, do you anticipate at this particular site there being any kind of homes being built or any kind of housing? Because that falls under this particular kind of zoning.

Yes. But if we are our project, a residential density requirement doesn't apply to this particular site because it's further than 1,000 feet from a planned or existing BRT route. That's why we're we're it doesn't apply to

this So for that reason, it does not apply.

Right. Right. That's the main,

caveat of that requirement.

Got it.

Now, in talking with the okay. So the we have a middleman. Let's put it this way. So we have the, the the farming family that has done it for a long time. They were approached by a developer. The developer has a longer plan, and he is out trying to to to to solicit other developers or or other users that come in here. But at this time, he doesn't have anything. He really wants to get us off the ground and then use us as a platform to go out and say, hey. You have this map up there. It's a great, opportunity to come in and and feed off of the the synergy of that area. So with that said, he is looking to find other uses for the area, but I just kinda wanted to give

you the structure of what

the ownership is and how this is occurring. Okay. And then this is not an unusual situation. We've had a a number of different projects that, they belong the property. They'll flip it to us. We do all the work.

So are you you're not taking possession of 418 acres. You're taking possession of four.

Only four acres on

the corner. Yeah. Yeah. So some of the so the rest of the development is gonna be left up to somebody else rather than because I know you some of the examples you gave was Maverick, you know, this developer and is is, you know, doing construction of it. So, really, your only proportion of this is just the is just that four acres. Correct.

Now our Madera site, that's off 18 And A Half Avenue. That site, we purchased 25 acres there. We're only developing a little over five acres, and we're going through a lack of a better term, subdivision process in

order to it won't be a

full parcel map. We're gonna do it through lot line adjustments and everything else. Then we will look for somebody to come in and take the the the site.

But we had to buy

the whole site. This one, we we don't have to buy the whole site since we have the middleman developer that's gonna be taking probably taking the rest

of the day. Okay.

I understand that every project is unique. This particular project is gonna require a rezone. But even so, obviously, this is not your first rodeo. Is there an understanding or a way of we of us to get a picture of what we can expect in the future in a place that shares land with Maverick?

Again, you could go down to the Tulare, site because that one, it has six lots in it. Chick fil A is in it. They all the infrastructure's in there. The improvements to the lights are in there. The roadways are in. All the all the utilities are in the ground and everything. That would be one to look at for that. Alright? Our Lemoore site, we are part of a more of a industrial development there too. We purchased that lot, and the remainder of the lot, there's another, like, seven or eight lots that they can subdivide.

They're planning on subdividing for more manufacturing and industrial development on that. So that that's another one that you could look at. One that we did, and this is kind of the visible bit farther up, Modesto. We have one in Modesto. That one has a Starbucks on it.

It's coming into there is a Panda that's coming in that's below us. We're taking one one section of it across the road on that one as well. They have interest from other fast food uses and small retail uses on that. But, yeah, but that's that's another one that's, up a little bit up the road here. Those would be the the the closest ones, I would say.

If you wanna go all the way up

to Banteca area, we're part of a larger shopping center in. And that has right now, we have a quick quack or they they I should say they have a quick quack that's in there. They have a Dutch Brothers that's behind us. They have Chick fil A that's behind. They have a grocery store that's going in. I believe it's a Saint Martin or something of or a Raley's of some type. You know, Raley's has different brands on that.

The only the only thing that comes to mind and I'm I'm happy that that this is something that's being considered for this site. I live relatively close to this site. I'm familiar with this site. The one thing that comes to mind is I don't understand why the city is specifically you say that they're recommending or they're enforcing CMX? Foreman, the planning administrator or or was it the planning director? He's the one that designated that. It's already designated? Yeah.

Yes. It's pre zone. The site is we we're coordinating with Rob Holt at the at the city, and he's our senior planner. And based on our discussions with them and multiple meetings and discussions with them, and and review of the, the ordinances and material. The site is, both pre zoned as CMX and is within the Southwest Fresno specific plan.

The SWFSP doesn't have a zoning district per se. Mhmm. It only has goals and objectives for policies, but but it's zoned CMX. So requires the develop developments standards of CMX to be applied. That's why we had to significantly modify our site plan, as Kevin mentioned, and bring the building closer to one of the streets, which is considered our main frontage street, within 10 feet of the right of way there and, do some modifications there to meet the requirements of CMX.

Got it.

That's being imposed by the city.

Understood. So this rezone essentially is if you want to rezone this, it's going to be CMX, period.

So it's

more prezone.

So It's prezoned.

We always bring an application of rezone when we do an annexation. Uh-huh.

But

Annexation and conditional use permit for alcohol sales.

Yes. But this associated rezone is not necessarily wanting to rezone something different than what is planned. It is planned for CMX.

For CMX.

That is correct. Yeah. They didn't go with a proposal to try to change the plan when you the has had it planned, most likely Yes. Ones with Southwest specific. Yep. It's pre zoned

in this case. It ties back probably, Albie, to the general plan because Yes.

I know

that the the city when they did when they did the general plan, they've pre zoned all the stuff that's in the sphere of influence. So this is probably, you know, twelve years old that they they did.

Unless they changed something on the Southwest Shore plan, but it could have very well been 2016 general plan that went into effect.

Okay. Understood. I I've gone through my questions. Yeah.

One last thing about the alcohol. Yeah. We we currently have PCN, and that's the public necessity and convenience, like, application. We it's part of the overall review that's going on with Citi with along with the CUP and everything else. We we we do understand that a license has to be retired, and we would have

to bid on it.

You know? It's not guaranteed that saying Joe's bar down here, we're gonna take that, and we negotiate with Joe now. It's open up for a bid and everything else. We understand that. We do have some stores that don't have a liquor license because of processes like this. It's not what we prefer. But if if it's, of the understanding that we are approved for a PCN, but we don't have the license yet, But in the future, we could get one if one does come up. We that that that's that's always a great possibility for us. Got it. On

your stores, how much do you

think is typically alcohol sales? That that's a very common question. The alcohol sales could be between 7 and 14 percent. Yeah. Depending on the area. Now our Visalia store, we expect to be high because it's heading to the mountains. You know? We expect vacationers, they stop for ice, and everything else before they continue on to to to to go up to school and and and that all that whole area. This area, it would just be more of a pass through. Somebody's coming home from work. They decide that, oh, I wanna have a beer tonight or a beer, six pack of beer or a case of beer or whatever or a bottle of wine. Okay.

Are you guys good? So k. I don't have any recommendations for this. I I really went through all my questions. Do you guys have any recommendations?

The only recommendation is that if we're gonna if it's gonna be pre zoned CMX, we need to make sure that, you know, that's one of the things that's not necessarily I know their site's already gonna be CMX, but as that other stuff comes in, it needs to stay kind of what it's pre zoned at. Mhmm. I wouldn't want us to, you know, again, kick the Southwest Pacific plan again and be like, oh, no. We're gonna go back to, you know, lighter, heavy Industrial. Industrials. Mhmm. Yeah. And and I say that because one of the property owners in this annexation is a property owner that is on ill. So I think it needs to be emphasized that it's gonna stay CMX.

I agree with that.

Yeah. And that that goes through, of course. It will be CMX. And I guess at that point, they wanted to rezone it. They have to go through another actual rezone, come back to the committee and go through the process again. So Mhmm. It should or it will be zoned to CMX and then it must abide by our municipal code once they wanna come back for a rezone. But whether we support that or not, that would be that wouldn't be in accordance with the plan development. But I'll so but I'll put that as a recommendation to emphasize that it stays CMX and its zoning and uses in the future if that works.

Okay. Well, thank you, gentlemen. I really appreciate your

time and Thank you. Your willingness

to answer my questions. Yep. Mhmm. Thank you for coming here.

Oh, yeah. We appreciate it. I like Fresno. I I've done a lot of work in Fresno. Excellent. In previous lives as well as

this life. Excellent. Yeah. When are headed back home? Tomorrow morning. Safe travels, my friend.

Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you. You are a doppelganger of a friend of mine in Salt Lake City.

Really? Yeah. I'm just gonna say.

Yeah. I have to give him a call saying I met you.

Let him know I said a lot. Mister Sheard, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. Alright. Thank Thank you. And thank you for the time. Moving on.

Do we have any admin matters? Wait. Tell me. This needs to go to the public. Is there anyone online with their hands? I I don't think so.

There is no one but me.

Okay.

Understood. Are there any admin matters that we

No admin matters. K. Understood. I would like to relay

some,

for lack of better term, kind of frustration to Gabriela. There's been an explosive amount of unhoused that have started populating along 180 to the point that there's actually a abandoned trailer off of the corner. Or it was, but now there's still kind of a mess from where they were living there off of college in Franklin. And there's a couple of other RVs and things like that that I see parked in and around the area that I believe people are inhabiting. They're parked on the street.

So I I I don't know what our steps are. I know that, obviously, if it's Caltrans property, gotta deal with Caltrans. Yep. But, you know, there's been norm I would say we've gone from the normal, you know, five to seven to probably sometimes upwards of 30, specifically kind of in in and around the the Van S 180 Interchange, to the point that actually, like, they're blocking streets sometimes that you can't get in

and out of the neighborhoods.

So I don't know if there's been, like, a a recent swing where we've moved from from one place or another, and now they're kind of congregating again in a different location. But it's it's gotten to a point that it's it's gotten very impactful. A lot of trash, a lot of, you know, camping, and a lot of fires happening. And we're getting into the warmer months, so we know that that's going to happen. And unfortunately, because of the way the freeway is, you have a lot of houses that are right up, like, feet away from the edge of the freeway. So it would be terrible for somebody to have something go up as a result of that.

Yeah. I agree with all of that.

The other question I have that I'd like Gabriela to answer is, is there a performance metric or some sort of, know, liability metric for the Fresno Street closure for high speed rail? And the reason I ask is because, you know, it took them it took high speed rail close to almost a decade to do Tulare Street, and about what was supposed to be about a year took, I think, three or four Close to four years. Centers at Saint Gisavez. And and they're advertising to everybody in the neighborhood or in everybody in the area that they'll be reopened June 2027. And and I have my doubts that they're gonna be able to be done in fifteen months.

Yeah. Luckily,

this already has another pass.

It does.

So that that I hope But they have to

they they they're reconfiguring. Yeah. They have

to restructure it to support the training. Well, they've already

missed their proposed groundbreaking day. So They're already a few days

ago. And they're they're shifting the whole Street. Right. So instead of it coming up at Broadway and up at G, it's gonna come up at F and come up at H. So G Street is gonna essentially be not gonna grade more. Yeah. They're gonna grade more, but they're gonna lift the grade back up to H. So instead of instead of where Broadway dips down underneath H Street and the tracks and comes back up at G, it's gonna start dipping at H. It's gonna be almost identical to Cesar Chavez and Tulare, where it dips at H, goes under the tracks, under G, and comes back up at F. Wow.

So they're shifting the entire underpass. I mean, yes, one on one side, you have the Union Pacific is built, and I don't foresee that there would be any changes to it, but I really doubt that they're gonna have this done in fifteen months. Yeah.

I would like to ask Gabriela I'm glad you brought this up, James. I'd like to ask Gabriela if there's currently a schedule for cleaning particularly aligned with events downtown. Not only before, but also after. I think it's very, very important to create a welcoming environment for people who don't always come downtown for such events like baseball games, for NCS. We have tequila fest coming up.

I think it's very important that we set the stage that is downtown to be presentable and clean and neat and well manicured. It's equally as important to have a crew designated for cleanup, not just in the event boundary, but outside of the event boundary. Because it the the trash goes way beyond where the event is. Right? And so I'd like to know if there's any kind of schedule that currently exists for something like that. Sorry. Nick, I know there's a lot. No problem. I'll

your hand's gonna hurt.

Yeah. I'm so sorry.

No. It's faster than me, Tite.

She just did a voice mail.

So But I'll I could put the question since Gabrielle is not here. Normally, I would just state that you would ask her questions, but I can put that in the minutes and then also send her the minutes or send her the questions so she wants to work on that and get back to you guys either with before or by the next time we have a meeting. Understood.

Okay. Are we through with administrative matters?

I do. I have a question also about parking when events are happening. I know there's been a lot of businesses complaining online about how the meters have been going up to $30 on event days, and the only available parking for our customers is meters. And now with the parking lots being closed for high speed rail, it's making it really difficult for them to do business when there are events. So is there any way that, like, where the meters go up to the event price isn't far away from, like, Chukchansky Park or I don't know how that works, but some of the businesses that are complaining are blocks away from the actual event that's happening.

Thank you. Thank you for bringing that up. Good to know.

So in terms of I'm sorry. In terms of parking meter prices? Or I I hear that wrong.

Yeah. It's the prices. So, like, the zone the zone number that's near Chekchansi Park is going up to $30, but even the ones that are, like, way out here are also going up to $30. And so

For actual metered metered parking lot? No. Guys. Parking meters are going?

Yeah. To the $30. Yeah.

They they have that digital because it's now the all the digital system. The parking app. Yeah. So and and I would say, you know, and and not to talk over what you're saying, Ashley, but I I understand what she's saying. It's like, in and around Chichancey or even Tioga, I can understand that because it's right next to the ballpark. But if you're, you know, say, further up Fulton Street, like closer to the housing authority, you're having the same problem. Yeah. Where it's Further away from the Atlantic. Eight miles away, and they're still paying $30.

But, I mean, I understand businesses who are near the ballpark, unfortunately, have to deal with that, but it's very restricted to these small businesses. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for bringing that up. Because there was something else that's really been on my mind regarding parking. Is there an opportunity, Nick, to develop something with the parking department that in exchange for having a business license or our equivalent of a tax ID, is there an opportunity to create a monthly parking pass? I don't necessarily want to get a discount. I just want to be able to pay it at once. And I want to be able to put a placard in my window that shows that I paid for the entire month. I don't necessarily want a discount.

I just want to be able to pay for the entire month.

Yeah. Rather than daily or

after Precisely. And in order to qualify for something like that, you get one per tax ID. Something like that. So someone who is running a business and has to unload things or doesn't have time to go move their car because they have customers. I'm just trying to think of ways that we can make a little bit make it a little bit easier for business owners. I unfortunately can't speak to that.

Yeah. I mean, ultimately, it has to be something between tax division and most likely parking. Mhmm. Try to come up with I don't know exactly how the apps find out the app

work per se. I know

I think they work from a public side of things, I don't know who ultimately monitors, revises, makes changes to the apps, like the pricing. Sure. I guess, it most likely be, I'm guessing, the parking division. Right. And we're in with tax division to provide that option.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, no no disrespect to you, but at the end of the day, it's about doing right for people who are trying to bring business to Fresno. Whether whether you're downtown or and now, Tower. I think it's very important that business owners have the ability to do business seamlessly. I think that's so important.

Yeah. And anyone that also those individuals that come in business related that may be here for a week, it would be nice for them just to be, like, to get there Even just on a weekly basis, something

like Exactly.

So they don't have to keep going back every day.

That would be so, so nice.

Okay. Yeah. I'll put something down about that potential to listen to that.

Okay. Wrapping up admin matters if you guys are okay. Beautiful. Is there is there any unscheduled communication from the office?

No. No. It's scheduled.

Understood. Alright. And then with that being said, we have adjourned at 07:00.