Downtown Development Authority Board - Regular Meeting

the nice thing about this tax credit if you can use it for you know studio. Okay, let's uh get the meeting started. Let's do roll call. Katie Souls, Bill Palmer, Parks Thompson, Tiffany Gatesman, Steve Fitzgerald, Greg Beckler. All right, Nick, you're muted. Can you hear us? Sure.

He's on. He's a co-host, but he's muted them. Nick's out there. Okay. Yeah, Nick Crab. Sorry, I missed the roll call. Perfect. Good morning, Nick. Good morning. We get a motion to approval of the agenda here. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Um, can we get a motion to approve the minutes of the last meeting? Also, so moved. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. We have open forum.

Anybody? Anybody out there? Nope. Okay. Discussion and possible action resolution 2026301 approving Frasier Valley Arts Center funding agreement. Sarah, you want to start?

Yeah, I'll do an introduction and then I can let Steve on behalf of Frasier Valley Arts speak and then we also I asked Troy to join us just if anybody has any questions from kind of the community financial perspective. Um but as was discussed at our December meeting, um Frasier Valley Arts has proposed or did propose to the DDA a funding agreement that would kick into effect once the DDA had $75,000 in net revenues from their tax increment. Um so we're still not expecting that to come to be for a couple years here. Um but it would be 2% of earnings. Um, we did suggest a single fiscal year cap of $10,000 and cumulatively no more than $100,000. So to reach that $100,000, we would be starting now, the agreement is written for 10 years and it would be$10,000 every year. Um, we did write a provision into the agreement per the discussion last time that if there was a year where the DDA wanted to put more money in upfront, um, the DDA could do that. Um, so if we wanted to raise those caps to allow for that to be a greater number, we can do that. The 10,000 and $100,000. Um, based on expected net revenues, we won't reach that amount. But if the DDA did want more flexibility to be able to do a larger donation at one point in time, um we can raise those caps. Um and so otherwise, this is largely what we discussed um I think back in December. Um but happy to answer any questions otherwise we can let

be or Troy Yeah. Troy, do you have any comments? Good morning, Troy.

Good morning. Nice to be with you all. Um, no, I I thought the I thought Sarah did a great job drafting the document. It really checked all the boxes from my perspective. Um, I think it's important, um, to put some of those kind of caps, if you will, in um, I typically do have a timeline um, cap as well, but um, I think in the spirit of everyone wanting to support this project, this great community project, you know, I think there's flexibility to amend the document if the revenue picture changes. Um, and so happy to answer any questions, but for me, it it checks all the boxes. You know, I I think it it's informative to the board to treat this in in some respects like you would a developer reimbursement agreement and you would see some of the similar caps um in that type of document. So, I I think everything that Sarah lined out was very appropriate.

So, the uh only Thanks, Troy. Uh the only things I would add and I'm I'm speaking now not as Steve on the board but Steve Frasier Valley Arts and then I will I will actually not say anything else after this and not participate in the debate. Um we we are deeply appreciative of the DDA's uh support and we'll be happy to to have the agreement as written and be thankful for that and it would join the town of Winter Park, the town of Frasier, town of Graanby and the county in being financially supporting of this effort and I think it really does help us with um fundraising with foundations and grants. The only caveat I've got that I'd ask all of you to consider is um I I feel like there's um kind of an over rotation on the caps here. The the uh proposal as written was for 2% of revenues to begin with. So that is a cap. Um and then to then put a 10,000 a year and 100,000 uh total over 10 years cap in addition to that does disadvantage Fraser Valley Arts and the center which is the the key point here. Remember this is a not forprofit that will be driving business to your businesses and those in the district. We uh have an economic impact analysis that would suggest that when the center opens and is in its first full year of maturity that the economic impact uh on the community will be about $2.3 million, $800,000 of which would be for businesses immediately around the center selling food, retail, hospitality, um hotels. So unlike a developer um this has an impact that is beyond the entity that is very important to our community and if we were to be wildly successful

for example in building out Clayton Court and revenues would um drive you know rise significantly I do think it is in the community's best interest to consider um not having that $10,000 a year cap on there. To put it in perspective, I have six individuals who have contributed more than $100,000 out of their own pocket to this effort. Um, we have an economic impact on the community. And I would cons I would ask the board to consider either revising that second cap or considering eliminating that second cap uh beyond the 2% of revenues each year. Other than that, we're deeply appreciative and um I'll leave it to you guys to debate and then shut my mouth.

Yeah. I mean, to Steve's point, I don't think if it's a 10-year, are you asking for the 10year to also be removed? Um, no. Yeah. I'd be fine with revising it in 10 years. Yeah. I think the $10,000 cap doesn't really m I mean we're not gonna hit it

like yeah that's 500,000 in increment you know that's a lot of development if you know if Kosalig brought 40,000 in increment that's 12 more Kosaligs getting built in the next 10 years that would be a lot you know we're not getting increment from the affordable housing so I I don't think there's any issue in removing it and Is it subject to annual appropriations too?

It is written subject to annual appropriations. Um we the town when we've done economic incentive packages they're that are percentage of like sales tax. Um the new hotel that's coming in got one. It was subject to sales tax a certain percentage but then they still put a cap on it. In part it just allows for kind of planning long term in terms of budgets. we can sit down as you know say in 5 years we have five of these deals and know that okay the maximum amount we need to budget for x y and z again I don't think it really comes into play because we'd have to hit that $500,000 mark before you get that $10,000 just kind of a best practice that I would recommend for the board um

well because but we can raise that amount as well so I'm not opposed to raising it um and we could take it out. But I would recommend, and this has been in consultation with Troy as well, keeping a cap just as a practice. I see Troy nodding his I guess. I don't know if you can see the screen, but So Troy, you're chiming in for us.

Oh, um, no, I'm just agreeing with with Sarah's comments. You know, certainly, you know, these parameters are to the board's discretion, and I respect that. Um, but yeah, I I I was nodding with best practice. So, um, yeah, for me it's at the board's discretion whether you want to keep that second cap and or what that amount might be. Um, but yeah, for me, these documents can be subject to amendment as well. So, if things are going gang busters, then yeah, for me, I would certainly uh appreciate uh or I would uh recommend uh relooking at the agreement in that instance because I think that would be a win-win for everyone. Does this uh agreement help like the bankability of the deal and would be looked at as an income stream because that would be the one

I was going to ask that too like for for like marketing purposes and or banking purposes is there is there a way to phrase it that that helps that also doesn't change what we're talking about.

Yeah. I mean the um so the answer is yes. Let me give the backstory. Um and I agree the practical reality of this is we're probably not going to even hit the proposed cap. Yeah. So I get that. Um but within this year we're going to be doing a bond offering and a very important part of convincing individual investors whether they be private individuals, banks, etc. is the financial stability of the organization. And so a a public document like this is demonstrable evidence of that and it's an ongoing um support which would be really powerful. So, um, I'm trying to make that look as attractive as possible. And, you know, a bond purchaser from Manhattan may not get that we're not going to hit 500,000, but um, when they see a double cap there, they can easily put a number to that, and 10,000 bucks a year is not a very compelling number.

So, yes. Um, with that kind of in mind, um, would it kind of help you out if we would like double that number knowing that we're not going to hit that? But I'm not really comfortable taking the cap off personally, but like if we make it a number that we all know we're not going to hit, um, but make it a much more attractive number. Um, would that be agreeable?

It it's it would certainly be helpful. Um, and then you know, uh, again, I I don't want to be like both participating in debate and arguing the case. Um, ideally, if that number were at least $100,000 a year as a cap, that is more compelling because that looks like an attractive number coming in. I don't think we're going to hit that within my tenure on the board. Um, but you never know. So, it seems deceitful to me. to be using something like that in an application when that money is not going to be there.

Well, we we expect like all projections, it is a projection based on assumptions and there I hate to use that word, but it's

I would I mean I I I feel comfortable removing the cap because it's up to us every year whether or not we give the money. It's capped at 2%. I feel like our past conversations have kind of aligned that we're going to contribute more than 2% to the arts anyway. Um, so I'm comfortable there if it, you know, and I see the value in it for, you know, the art center having something like that from us, from Winter Park, from everyone. So I look at it as it's 2% that we can choose to give or not every year.

Yeah. you know, I like I I I think there's guard rails there. I don't know if you disagree, Troy, with my interpretation, but I think, you know, it's like a developer ask, but it's also way different because it's a nonprofit building an art center and that's like part of our mission is arts, you know. So, I don't know. I I feel comfortable without the cap, but I understand why people would want it to. Yeah. Is the 2% going to cap it yearly if we still have the big one?

Well, and that's the thing like, you know, 2% I could see us like wanting to do more than that. If it's, you know, hey, we could we could go build the pottery room if we had 20 grand. It seems like this is like a like I said, more helping with the marketing and initial funding and then as other things come up, I could see that there could be something else that we could jump on. Yeah, I think the legal papering's more helpful than the money. And then when we have money, we'll probably want to give what we can give to, you know, the arts nonprofit or nonprofits like it in town, you know, or building something. So,

well, and I'll just interject the way this is written, section 4 has an optional accelerated funding at the board discretion. Um, so it reads, "The DDA board may in its sole discretion and subject to annual appropriation approve an additional one-time or short-term contribution intended to accelerate construction or facilitate groundbreaking." Um, so that was, I think, per your suggestion last time, Greg, if it would be helpful to have a larger sum up front um versus kind of spread out. So that right now would be subject to that $10,000 cap still. I definitely see an argument for raising that annual cap. Um, and it also could be that total cap. Um, so that the board could give more than 10,000 in a particular year. Again, a 100,000 I don't think we're not going to have that in revenues in the next few years when they're hoping to break ground, but I don't know if 50,000 would be an appropriate number. And then adjusting up that total contribution accordingly, you know, to 200 or 300. Um, which I think might balance out kind of Steve's objectives of having this look more attractive to somebody who's not really diving into the weeds of what the DDA actually has, but not being, you know, to Katie's point, kind of deceitful, for lack of a different word. um in terms of that being somewhat within the parameters of what the DDA, if they really wanted to give their whole budget, you know, a couple years from now might be able to do.

And if I could just add, um I I appreciate Katie's point. Um I also, uh, as you many of you know, was once engaged with Vale Resorts at a period of wild growth in Summit County. We blew away every single projection we had for development in that community to the point where I regret it. Um, honestly, it's it's too developed. And so part of this, while I I don't want to come across as just trying to play fast and loose with the truth, part of this is also I think we are um somewhat uh pessimistic about the opportunity for growth in our community. And um what I'm also arguing in favor of is in the eventuality that that pessimism does turn out to be warranted, meaning that we grow a lot faster than we think we can, that there is a benefit.

Yeah. Oh, and the one other thing I wanted to add, we can write all you know that into the here now. Um and again, which I'm not opposed to, but there also is the opportunity to renegotiate this. So, if all of a sudden, you know, we've got whatever going up in Frraasier that was totally unexpected, um the board at that time can revisit this if they wanted to go beyond that 2% or that cap or if this no longer seemed warranted based on the DDA's reality.

And to be clear, um I didn't know that there was no obligation to pay that 2%. I thought that was like a baseline. So if there is no obligation there, um then I'm I have no problem with removing the cap. But I just thought that that was like a baseline like that's minimum what we would be be giving and I didn't want to put us in a position where we like you know are giving them a lot more money than what we had like agreed to um by removing that cap. But um if it is by our discretion every single time, I'm totally cool with it because I I trust our board. So yeah,

cool. I correct me if I'm wrong, Troy. I would say the way this is written, um you are not allowed to obligate future board. So it has to always be subject to annual appropriations.

Um and that's in compliance with Taber and other measures. But the expectation is that the board would give that 2% each year but could opt out of it. Um but for this to be useful to to Steve or to the Fraser Valley Arts I should say um we are setting that expectation that you know pending whatever um that that there would be that 2% contribution once we hit that 75,000. So if we're looking at the agreement, how would this change then if we're the agreement?

We'd have 3.2 is the formula for the 2% which would stay 3.3 cap. Um I guess the question is do we need the annual cap, right? Yeah. If it's if it's if it's capped at if it's well, if we're proposing the 2%, right? Do we need the annual cap? I think. Yeah. And that's where I totally get where it's like if we just remove the $10,000 a year cap. Well, it's still capped at the percentage. And yeah, anyone fiddling through with paperwork, right, looking to donate is going to be $100,000 over 10 years, which does sound more compelling. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

pointing out the math that it might be right less than $10,000 a year. Yeah, you have to you have to know the projected revenues on the 2% to see behind the the curtain. And I'm just thinking like it's like yeah, if you compile these, you're like, oh yeah, we have 10 different government organizations or whatever that over the next 10 years are going to donate a total of a million dollars, right? You know, or up to that sounds more and and it's a really compelling story to say the local business community is firmly behind this as evidenced by the DA and they are. Yeah, all the local businesses want it. Feel the love.

And here's the deal is, you know, board members in the future are coming out of Frasier, so they'll probably be stingy with their money and um you'll have to do this all over again anyways. So, I think we should probably just remove it and move on. Okay. So, my suggestion, just that first line, right? So, so you want to remove the annual and the total cumulative cap or I was just talking about just the annual the annual and and for the length of this agreement which is 10 years unless we change it.

Yeah. You um so the math won't work if you just remove the annual but you keep the 100,000 over 10 years because you just it's the same thing. Okay. That said, I think we could keep a cumulative cap, but wait. Sure. And I think, like I said, we've all know you're going to have to come convince the next board anyways. So, depending on who that is, it could be easier or tougher. Yeah. If again, I I I just want to give an idea. If you were to remove the annual, keep the 2%. Yeah. Yeah, move the annual and make the annual the 10year something like a million bucks knowing that I'm still going to have to come for an annual approval.

That satisfies all the needs. Yeah, just keep the 2% and then and and a 10-year cap of a million. I think that that satisfies any discernment we would have. Yeah. In all likelihood, we'll never come close to that. Right. And they can opt out every year anyways. So they're like, "Oh, we have something better we need to do." Right. You would be like, then I can turn to bond purchasers and say I've got an opportunity for up to a million dollars for my local business. An opportunity and say opportunity is the key word. Okay. About $500,000. Is that still good? It's It's not as good. Yeah, it's not as good. But again, I I don't want to be It's that so unrealistic.

Does this have to go before the board approval? No, this is just a No, I mean ultimately at the end of the year the board has to approve your budget and this would be part of it, but this is your agreement with the Frasier Valley Arts. I'll let everybody I mean I guess that falls to that subject to annual appropriations. The board of trustees are the ones that are signing off on that annual appropriation. I think the only thing that makes sense is 2% because it's like such a small portion of our budget. It's kind of in line with what we

want to do. It's like like that's what makes sense to me. All right. 2% to do this every year and we talk about it every year. Anything else just seems like I mean a million 500,000 100,000 it's like who knows, right? You know, so I think putting a number at all to that is the only thing we know is we're comfortable at 2% every year and we want to talk about it every year. That's what I think we should put. But but is that if putting 500,000 in there that helps? I don't think the 500,000 helps. I think I think putting anything help. If I were a banker that didn't know, you know, I would say, "Oh, two." Yeah. 2%. That could mean anything. To put a number to something else. We don't know because

Yeah. I mean, 500,000 is 10 times our current increment. So, we'd have to be making 500 times our current increment to get to 500,000. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like, you know, and a million would be a lot.

So, I don't I don't I mean, I don't know if Troy, if you feel like putting a total cap in this scenario is in the best interest of the DDA or if the 2% with annual appropriations is enough guard rails. You know, I think that um I think to to Steve's initial comment, yeah, maybe there are a lot of guard rails. I I want to be careful that and I don't think this is the case, but that this agreement set precedent. That's right.

Um and I don't think it should because it is unique, right? It is not a developer uh that's developing a forale product or taxable product. So, um, for me, I think my overall concern, and you guys have already touched on it without me saying so, so it's great, is, you know, I don't want uh something else that might be more in line with the plan of development um to u be hindered by this kind of obligation, right? And I say obligation in so far as it is an obligation as it is sub subject to annual appropriation. So, I would be okay with just the 2% and the annual appropriation as the guard rails. I'll repeat myself once more saying that, you know, annual and total caps will play a role with a developer arrangement. Um, but for purposes of of this, I've always been a big supporter of the art center. So, for me, it makes all the sense in the world for the community. Um, and you know, for me in terms of the conversation with the bond offering for the Fraser Arts Valley, these are all very sophisticated investors that will do their their own homework. So for me, I think, you know, to the extent we can uh support the Fraser Arts Valley, help them uh get attractive cost capital, I think helps us all. Well, that's one good point though that people will probably refer to this document and who knows if we'll be here, you guys will all be here. You know, there's so much turnover. What if we put like is there a criteria you'd want to have for a normal development application like, you know, annual cap, total contribution cap, and we just say not applicable or no. So

then at least this is a template because this probably will what pe be what people go back to right developers and people in our situation the next time this comes up. So just I like that idea. put put it on put it on this document like here's what we would ask anyone and then we're just this is not like zero dollars or not applicable in this instance but we know to ask those questions or the future I like that idea a lot because again you're setting precedent with the form of the document not necessarily the contents of the document because I think that spark the conversation like wait oh well it was a

great it's nonprofit for an art center, you're asking to build a whatever. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaking to that on what is it? 52 if it's not appropriated, terminates the agreement if nonappropriation continues for a period of 3 years after the initial 75,000 DDA net incremental revenue threshold has been met. That's just talking about how much we're getting, right? that is written um once that's meant to include once you hit $75,000. So if for whatever reason the future boards was not appropriating and not appropriating and not appropriating that the contract would become null and void or would end.

It was the town lawyer being very very cautious. Can't blame him. Yeah, because we have to hit that hit that first, right? It's going to be a while. Yeah. Well, hopefully not too long. Let's be hopeful. Yeah. But that begins after the initial 75,000 is met. So, if you don't hit it for three years, this agreement still stays in place. Right. So, Steve, your timeline on um starting this bomb process, is that like this month?

We're No, it's not it's not that imminent, but by by sometime this year, we will we will be doing that. We're working through the very complicated procedures you have to do in order to sell bonds.

Yeah. on the way the resolution is written um and I did this in part in case there were some of these changes to make to the document per this discussion um you would approve the agreement and we can approve it subject to the removal of the annual and cumulative caps apart from the 2% um and then it provides myself as the interim executive director the authorization to kind of execute it and make those changes that are needed um and to sign it. So you guys can go ahead and approve it. The only thing that we would need to change in the resolution is to take out the cap annually annually and cumulatively. But everything else would apply.

Yeah. But Greg, I thought you were talking about reddrafting the resolution so that can we make a resolution to allow you and Troy to add whatever check marks we should have for any application to this form. And then does that work even even if we're putting a zero or not putting a value there. Yeah. Zero or not applicable. Yeah. To create the standard contract. Um I don't know if it's in I was envisioning that we would add language in the agreement saying something to the effect of no annual cap applicable in this case.

Um because I do think it would be a bit more involved of a contract for like a developer. um something that Troy and I have talked about in the past or having certain benchmarks that the developer has to meet or they don't the money type thing. So we could develop that we could develop that in addition to this but I see what you're saying if people are just referencing this document and not that other form. um having something because the minutes no one's going to go to but if we have something produced from the meeting that shows you know when someone's looking two years from now and they're just looking at the what was right attached to the meeting or whatever. Um

Troy's got his hand up and Troy I'd be curious your thoughts on kind of benchmarks and where a developer agreement might vary from this if that's something we could encapsulate in a form now.

Yeah. So I think the easiest solution right now is maybe include this to in a as a whereas or preamble to say um whereas the DDA recognizes that um this is a nonprofit entity. I'm paraphrasing. So certain parameters uh like annual cap, total cap, performance measures are not applicable. That's a nice easy way to tuck it into this agreement. Yeah,

because I agree with you Sarah. A developer reimbursement agreement as a form would be difficult um and maybe not entirely applicable here. So maybe the where as preamble would suffice. That's my idea off the cuff. I agree. I like that idea myself. And it's not quite so cut and dried because sometimes check boxes later totally reused the other way. Makes sense. And that's an easy addition. It's a mouthful

because when we are engaging with the developer, we also want them to look at the policy document and that policy document kind of outlines a lot of what we're talking about and should also be a good set of expectations for uh a developer. So, this won't be the only thing that they'll be looking at. I'll want them to look at the policy as well.

Yeah, 100%. So, are you guys comfortable coming up with that whereas now and signing off? Um, otherwise we can bring it back, but we we're going to be discussing our meeting schedule later in the meeting, but if we stick with this every other month, our next slotted meeting would be for May. I guess that's a question for you in part, Steve. I know you it would it would it's a problem um just in timing. Um, I think the warehouse should be pretty easy to come up with. If you guys are Sarah, work her magic.

Yeah, I'm going to suggest Sarah make the motion and you guys can first and second it to make sure that we're clear on what it is that you guys are wanting. Yeah, this has been a complicated debate. So, good call. Give me one second. Let me read this out. And while she's doing that, I I really appreciate the insights. The support is obvious. Yeah. Um and and having your help in making this even better is I I can't words don't express how appreciative I one person in here earns her living from this um I'm sure appreciates it soon to be two. Yep. You guys are hiring someone.

We are we're in the final round of interviews for our director. We have two finalists. um one from within the county, one from um another High Mountain Valley who's working in an art center there. And we're very optimistic about both. Exciting. Kelly, too. Yeah. A collaborator. It's crazy. It's coming so close. Yep. And we have more ideas for events than we could shake a stick at. I mean, every single day. I had I have another one to tell you about. Um so, it's it's exciting. And all of them bring people to this community. Make sure to check out the one this weekend. Yep. What's this weekend? We have the art gallery for Lydia Riyle happening at the Green Church. Oh, cool.

Vagina model. Oh, that's this weekend. Yes. Yep. Which is sold out. Although, you know, somebody is our first locally produced production. This is locals putting on a play for locals. Um, somebody had the rights to the event. Um, and I I and it's been driven by a group of women who are passionate about this and it's going to hit a whole different demographic for us. So, I'm I'm just I'm thrilled. Gives me goosebumps. Yeah. Really exciting.

All right. Does it work? So, our first whereases here whereas the Frasier Downtown Development Authority was established blah blah blah to promote economic development vitality within the downtown Frasier area. And whereas Frasier Valley Arts is a Colorado nonprofit organization leading the development, construction, and operation of the Frasier Center for the Creative Arts Center. We will add, whereas as a nonprofit that will benefit economic development and vitality and enrichment of the arts in the community, typical annual and cumulative dollar caps and other development benchmarks typically required will not apply. Perfect.

Well, well, all right.

The other modification is in the second to last whereas the proposed funding agreement includes provisions ensuring that any funding is subject to annual appropriations limited in duration to 10 years. It says capped annually and cumulatively. So we will take that out of that whereas that will be the additional modification and structured in compliance with article that would be a 10 section 20 of the Colorado constitution table and do we need to modify the agreement also that what was that point

yeah so the agreement will be modified simply to remove the um annual and cumulative caps that are referenced in section E of the recital. Section 3.4 the illustrative example will remove the capped at 10,000 and then under section 4 optional accelerated funding we will remove must not exceed 10,000 in any fiscal year. Um and in section 3.3 the cap um I think the only thing that would be left is there is no minimum funding guarantee unless we just reiterate under that that um the cap is probably just remove that section.

Yeah, you have the annual appropriation. All right. So, do we have a motion to approve resolution number 2026301 with those stated modifications? So moved. Nick second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi. And please let the record show that I recuse myself from voting. Yes. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. Much great debate. up. Um, and we will work on just kind of um starting to craft a draft of that template to have that ready for our first developer that I assume will come at some point asking for um an agreement. Well, the most active developer in the room certainly helped craft it, so that helps.

Um, all right. Yay. Next item. Resolution 2026302 approving Frasier rail platform signs and related MTRA agreements. Great. So just to confirm with everybody um we had sent this out via email. Thank you Nick so much for adding elevation options. Um, this is the one that the folks that weighed in largely the exception I think of myself and Cali, but all of the boards seem to like this one. Um, with the elevation just straight across. The other one kind of had a wier elevation. So, this is what we have submitted to Amtrak. Um, we've been working with the folks that parks connected us with to um to get the the science fabricated. Thank you. Um, I can't talk this morning. uh the Amtrak agreement that is written as part of the resolution and is the main reason that I brought a resolution forward for you. Um this would authorize me to continue negotiating the real estate agreement that's required with Amtrak and then to sign it again hoping to have that in place prior to our meeting in May. Um I did meet with them again last week. It's pretty straightforward. the DDA. In terms of the obligations, I've stated that the DDA will be in charge of maintenance of the sign. So, if it was to be graffitied or need to come down, we would be responsible for for covering that and making sure that happens. Um, I would think we could probably work with the town public works to to do the work. But um the other piece of it that I was not thrilled about cuz they had told me that there was zero cost to all of this, which surprised me at the time. Typically there is a $2,000 cost as a onetime licensing fee. Um given that they told us it was $0, they are

requesting $1,000. Um which I thought was fair. I was thinking about it more over the weekend. we're about to provide them a free lease, which is what they typically get when the municipality owns a rail station. So, I might try pushing back on this a little bit um as part of that lease agreement for the new Frasier Transit Station area. Um but this would authorize the DDA to pay that $1,000 if that is something that that can't be pushed back on. Um which again I think is normally reasonable. Um, but it was not what was originally stated and we are working out a lease agreement for that station area.

So, Ron is losing and they're moving. That is the plan. They're working with us on a lease. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so the resolution approves the station signage here and approves hanging the two signs. Um, I left the project cost not to exceed $3,000, which is the amount that back in December the board approved via motion. Um, we are expecting it to be less than that. I think the estimate is actually closer to like 1,500 for the two signs for the actual fabrication piece. Um, installed to with that that's Frasier Town or Amtrak. Which one is installing? Amtrak's installing it.

Okay. So, so we're out of pocket less than three grand even with the lease thing. Even with even if we pay that $1,000 licensing agreement like sweet. Where do you get these signs made? Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, make a motion. Had multiple people ask me if So, do they have any intention of painting the platform anytime soon? Have you looked at it? Yes. Um, that is an interesting question. Um, I have raised with them some structural questions raised by some of our public works guys that have been looking at like the timbers and whatnot. My understanding from Amtrak is that that platform was put in by the resort way back when. Sure.

But nobody at this point is really responsible for it. They take care of the lighting and I guess there's heating. Okay. Um and they are doing work to move the platform as part of their ADA improvements, but basically um the platform currently kind of in part runs the shelter from the shelter. Um and it's closer than it's supposed to be to that sidewalk in our section for safety reasons. So now is that the shelter is closer or the platform? So that platform is shifting and they're redoing the ramp, but they are not doing anything with the shelter itself.

Stay right where it is. So, I don't think it would be a bad project if the DDA wanted to take that on at some point. Um, again, it's not a project that really generates increment, but as a contribution to the the district. Um, because my understanding from Amtrak is there's nobody really oversees, you know, ensuring that the timbers are in good condition or painting it and that sort of thing. Why don't we take a walk on like in the next couple of months and go look at it? Yeah, I think it' be a great idea. Check it out. See if there's are like rotting or what the deal is because that could be

$20,000 or more and it could be less. Yep. At this stage I think it's just stain. And then of course the steel is that blue was painted blue and that's very faded. But we'll cover most of that I think with the sign. Sign's going to look fake. But that's it's going to look great. maybe around the sign. So, non-issue, but getting the signs up is the most important.

And I know with this, like with the sign, by having Amtrak's contractor hanging it, we didn't have to worry about liability and kind of these extra steps that we otherwise would. So I would have to work with Amtrak to figure out what work on this platform that's not really theirs but is looks like but we could figure that out if that was something the GDA wanted to take on. Well it's not a big deal. I was just thinking about some of it before the sign goes up because once the sign's up working around it um just don't want our sign to get messed up.

Correct. And I was going to share this as an update later. I think I've kind of mentioned this in the past, but I'll just it's relevant to this. Um, we're working with Amtrak to have them hopefully reimburse some of the ADA improvements that need to happen to bring this new station into ADA compliance. So, it's largely we have to construct a new ADA bathroom and then putting a little um ramp or curb cut up. There's a ramp that goes into the building, but there's no way to get up to the sidewalk right now. Um, so we're working with Amtrak for that for kind of immediate improvements to be able to open it and have it serve as an Amtrak station as well as kind of a waiting area for lift or busing passengers.

Um, but additionally, we're working with C DOT on some larger station and station area planning. So, they're actually coming out to do a site visit next Monday morning. If anybody wanted to tag along, you'd be welcome. It's from 9 to 12. Um but looking at just kind of some larger visioning and design for that area in general. Um they had some leftover budget money and some contracts that they had that we were able to use. So it's a great opportunity. We don't have to write grants. We don't have to report on grant spending um to just get some professional design services and that should help us with grant applications to actually do the work as well moving forward. So there could be some great opportunities for the DDA there once we get that planning done, but also to weigh in on that planning. So

So we just need to approve the elevation on here. Is that correct? No. So the resolution, you're approving these signs. You're approving um the cost, the Amtrak licensing fee of $1,000 if that needs to be paid. You're authorizing myself as the interim executive director to continue negotiating that real estate contract and sign it. Um, that's what you're approving. Okay. Yep. Cost last time. So, we did I just since I was writing a resolution included it in all resolutions, we had it in one place.

Is every It looks like everybody's in agreement, right? We should probably just move this forward. We make a motion to approve resolution 202260302 approving the Fraser Rail platform signs and related Amtrak agreements. Seconded. All in favor? I

Okay. Resolution 2026303 approving North Frasier AB sidewalk design. This one is pretty cool. All right. So, the next resolution, um, myself, Paul Johnson, Greg, and Steve, um, all met to discuss the North Brazier sidewalk project that the DDA board expressed interest in doing um, at our last meeting in January. Um, so this would be where Clayton Court kind of comes up and loops around to try to provide connectivity to the new businesses going in um, on Clayton Court. Um, we do have an estimated design fee of $5,288 from Merrick and they're the ones that did the design for the rest of Clayton Court. Looking at Greg's face. Um, my understanding is the sidewalk piece is simple. Um, it's the drainage that is more complicated and that is part of the reason that sidewalks weren't initially included on that stretch. Um, so this resolution, if the board wanted to move forward with it, it's basically adding to the design they've done for the rest of this design piece. Once they did the design, we would get an actual estimate for the work itself. This is written such that if we move forward with the design that the board has kind of pre-approved um me to sign off on construction work up to $30,000. When the group was was talking the estimate was kind of that 20 to $30,000 range. Um if it was more than that it would come back to the board. But that is what this resolution has.

Good. So how does look this year so far? I think we're still fine on spending these dollars, but yeah. So, in looking at the budget, um, we had budgeted since we rolled over pretty much all of our district enhancement funding from the previous year, there was 40,000 rolled over. So, the signage right now with the fabrication and the licensing comes in at just under 2500. Um, if the design and construction, if that were to total up to 36,000, that puts us at $38,458 that came in on the high end, right?

Um, so it is within that $40,000, but that would basically be your district enhancements for the year. That's awesome. Greg, can you get us a discount or what? Bro, I'm shocked at the design fee. I also I do want to like I I understand like you know having a high dollar amount so that we come in under but I think this group's probably a little more sensitive to that than like you know a town budget when it's 10 or 15 over.

Um I worry that the drainage is going to get put on this change order whereas really we're simplifying drainage by adding a sidewalk with curb and gutter there. So I think I think we're making their project easier. I think it's something the town would planned for and the DDA is making up for it. So, I don't think, you know, I think we should approve it because I think it's in the best interest of the town and everyone. Yeah, we want to get the sidewalk in.

Yeah. I also don't want to screw the DDA with like, you know, I don't think we should be paying 30 grand for it. That's for sure. We shouldn't be paying five to design it, but it needs to get done. I think the town doing a million.8 a project and not having the sidewalk on the other street and then us stepping in is backwards. But I think we should approve it and do it and I don't know that it will be 30,000. I just pick that number. I just But with the drainage because if if they want to go do like a covert under the sidewalk and put in How wide is this sidewalk? That's the thing. if we need to treat that or anything, you know, it's some sort of system that's different because like

in a trafficked area like that, just a regular trench strain's tough because those freeze so it could get complicated and that's the thing I worry that I mean 30,000 it might go above 30,000 if they try to put that on us. So I I think it's fine to approve it as long as we have the budget to do it. Um, but yeah, I wish it was incorporated. Paul with public works had concerns because there's that big drainage ditch that comes in kind of behind the distillery new building and between there and those little houses. Yeah. Yeah. There's a

So this sidewalk, the drainage that's concerned here is like that whole Clayton Court Street was basically going to funnel to the ditch that runs north south that runs into that same drainage ditch that then runs east west behind Ron's property and the O'Bron's property into the river. Okay. And so that ditch that runs north south, everything from Clayton Court was just going to funnel there and then go into the ditch. But now that we're putting in a sidewalk sidewalk, that drainage has to be redesigned. Yeah.

But if there was a sidewalk going in in the future, like there was going to be once they acquired that land that was going to be redesigned anyway. So, we're just getting hit for a lot of redesign, you know. Yeah. For a simple sidewalk, we're getting hit with a lot. But, like I said, it could easily double just from a sidewalk. Yeah. I think it's good. You know, we'll put in the cap, but we'll see what phases comes back with for cost. Um because it may just need to be a conversation with the town. Well, we can make that our cap and if we more support, then we can go to the town. Yeah. Yeah. I would I I think we have to have a cap in this situation because they So, it's south of this. Uh so, and it's the north side.

Yep. It's the north side. Yeah. Oh, sorry. That's not the right uh which is good because right spot. There you go. Yeah. So, the the north side of Clayton Court, it's next to that house basically. Yep. Yeah. And I had North Frasier in there because that's what Mer has. But here is Clayton Court. And that and that piece of Clayton Court will probably get renamed to like Frasier Avenue and then once it runs south will be Clayton Court would be guess. We can name it to Frasier DDA.

Yeah, they're right. To answer your question, Bill, it's 4.25 ft and that was the amount of space we need to get a construction easement from the properties, but without getting an additional easement from the properties there that was available. The town owns like 5T north of the proposed edge of asphalt. Gotcha. And the new sidewalks on Clayton Court and on the south side of Frasier Avenue are all designed to be an 8 and a half foot sidewalk with a control joint cut at 4.25. So it's essentially a half of one of the other sidewalks. Okay.

But that south sidewalk, they don't have the property owner hasn't granted them the ability to include that in the work yet. So yeah, I think this is critical to do. I agree. And I'll just add, correct me if I'm wrong, Greg and Steve, from our conversation, it is yet to be determined if when the Frasier Arts Center goes in if this sidewalk has to be redone. Yeah. And if it does, then we'll just include that in our construction. Right. So that would be covered by Frasier Valley Arts. But I just want it pains me to put money into things that are torn up a year, two, three, four years later. So, I just want everyone to have that on their radar that

Valley Arts would include it in their project. But there is a um to to just add on to that, there is a I'd say like 10% chance by by the time this work is actually being done that we would know that we'd be breaking ground next year. Um and if in that small percentage of a chance we know that we'll certainly let the world know and we could maybe defer that for a period of time. But um my guess is the earliest we could break ground would be late next summer and more likely the year after. Well and this sidewalk's not going on your property though. So that's just the edge. It's just edge. Yeah. Yeah. It's not me.

So that I mean make it would be you know design would incorporate duplication of the sidewalk most likely. Of course I know it would really help out Moose and Merchant too. Yeah, I think they they have like a pretty big issue right now with they're not even opening because of that dirt. Yeah, they I've I've pushed back. They're closing. they can't open and it, you know, they're it's a small business that is going to open on a street with no sidewalks and no way to get there. So, no, empathize with them. Yeah. And and that asphalt has to be laid anyways. Like the whole street has to be paved for them to open. Yeah.

And is that in process?

That's in process. Yeah. So, Excel is slated to start like any day now because the weather. Okay. Um, so as soon as Excel is able to, the gas line was put where Frasier Avenue extends east and then south to the edge of the Sterome project and so was Mountain Park's electrical conduit. So Excel is going to extend that gas line and redesign the gas line at the south end of the street because it's undersized because it just serves the trailers, right? So that'll be a 4 inch line that goes and loops to uh Clayton Avenue, which is the street at the south end of the street. And then Mountain Parks will come in and lay their conduit um relocate and lay their conduit 5T next to the gas line, so everything's in one channel. And then they'll come and regrade and asphalt and everything. And so we were going to break it north and south, but that street's going to change elevation a lot. Um, and so there was no way to do it peacemail. It all has to be done at once because there's two three-foot grade cuts in different areas. Um, so but that's all happening. So it's booked with Excel. Mountain Parks is finishing their design to go after Excel. So my guess would be Excel starts April 1st if they can, as soon as they can.

Mountain Parks may, you know, Excel shouldn't take a month. It take two weeks. Yeah. And then mountain parks as soon as they can after and then phases and the town's whole landscape and street and streetscape project after that. So, but those two shallow utility providers would go first. So, it should I mean assuming weather doesn't change drastically to just get horrible, it should all be done May. In May, I think in May. Yeah. Watch. We we'll get like 150 inches of snow in May and June. We could everyone now is planning at early early spring.

Yeah. But I mean Excel move up their timeline because of the weather can start work. So yeah, that's kind of what remains. Okay. Yeah. Greg, can I ask you a question? When this sidewalk goes in, do you there that corner of Kosig plan on putting some stairs or something to Yeah. So, the design part of the streetscape project on Coastal, um, it's not an extension east because of the grade change. It's actually a ramp down where they're extending south from the sidewalk that's on the west side of Doc Susie through that rock bed. Yeah.

And then that'll be a ramp down to the street and then a crosswalk. If we have this sidewalk in, we can put a crosswalk over. Right now, it's designed that that crosswalk basically diagonals or crosses south to the sidewalk that would be on Lafayette Alves's property edge, but if we have this and we can go straight across. Yeah, I don't know that a 4.25 foot sidewalk's ADA compliant or not, but I think it is 48. I know in Denver they were putting in five feet because they said that's what was ADA compliant. Um, so hopefully we'll have the five foot on the other side. Um,

yeah, hopefully it sounds like that southside may happen, but it's not inked or done. I mean, I would think it's happening eventually. Hopefully it happens this summer with the rest of it. But that is the one land owner, as I understand it, that still has not provided the easement. So, so we're we're still working on that. Yeah. But I think from a DDA perspective, my now if we put this in on the other side, would that give that other land owner some leverage to say, "Oh, you don't need a sidewalk on my side?" I don't think so. Because I could see them doing that.

I think the town has a like slam dunk eminent domain case if that landowner were to really fight back. And my understanding is he's got representation from the same lawyer who's representing the guys behind Holiday in. So it's like that's just like a come to the table conversation. You know, what's my land worth? It's like you're you're working towards that resolution regardless. So I don't think there's a scenario where he could hold out forever. Oh, look, there's already a sidewalk. I think just proving value. the town if it goes down that route it just takes more time but the town will always kind of get what they want

in this scenario you know I don't think I think it's a pretty clear well have we had enough conversation about a sidewalk should we just go ahead and let's do it prove it so there's no way to make it five foot because of our restrictions my understanding is to make it five foot we would have to get additional easement from the property owners. Gotcha. Which we could try to do, but that likely means compensating them. Um, so it would be significantly more expensive and would probably take based on our experience on Clay Court, it would take more time.

Would the I thought they had five feet. I thought the decision for 4.25 was just to match the sidewalk, but the town actually owns I think five or six feet to match the sidewalk. So the sidewalks going in on Clayton Court are eight and a half feet wide. And the whole reason of doing 4.25 was to basically pour half a sidewalk and then the town eventually purchase that property or get an additional easement to duplicate it and just pour an additional half rather than have a different looking sidewalk. Okay. Yeah. So, I think that was the decision criteria because I think the town owns five or six feet and so as long as they stay within what the town owns, it's just a construction temporary easement.

Okay. If they wanted to build on their property, then they would need an easement for building a sidewalk on property. But I think that was the decision criteria was that we want to build half a sidewalk so that we could go back eventually and duplicate it. So, we have an 8 and 1/2t sidewalk. Huh. Yeah. So, can we throw something in there where we I don't know. We check with the engineer see about because if the five foot is what's ADA,

it would be really nice to be able to make that happen. Um, if possible. And I don't know how you would add that into this resolution, but Well, we're going to see these plans before we know exactly. Yeah. What they're But if poss if possible, I think I don't think so. I think they're going to design it and build it probably before we meet again. If we're not meeting till May, hopefully. That'd be great if it would. Yeah. I don't think I don't think I think it I mean I think it's for them to design it and build it what we're approving right now.

So if it's 4.25, can we just say five or is that not going to change? know that 4.25 is not 88 though. Well, if the long we can it's five feet. Okay. Yeah. I mean the only problem with doing and I mean you could do five keep the control joint but then you're going to end up tearing up. So it's like you could pour it with a control joint at 4.25. It's probably not smart to do that because then you're only left with eight inches. you know, 9 in and that'll fall off. Um, because if you do five,

you'll just have a different looking sidewalk than the rest of the street if they were to come back and duplicate it. But you also maybe don't need to increase it to eight and a half, right down the road, right? Five could be adequate there. Yeah. If that if five would I mean I realize five having an ADA compliant is ideal. Um, we can further look into this. The way the resolution's written, I don't think it prohibits us from switching to five in here. 4.2. I would leave it up to the engineers. Yeah. Yeah. Just scrap. Yeah, let's do that.

Yeah. I think I think and that's I mean the business doesn't care if it's four and a half or five. No, they don't care. They just want people to be able to walk to their And it's to go. It's a to- go business. It's like a grab and go business. So like they need they need as much access in and out of there as they can get. And I would think that there is room in this for consultation with our executive director who is you right now. And so you know those those sort of um incremental decisions I think are appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And because that Yeah. Because the art center will inform the additional five feet anyway because that would be on your property. Yep. And then the um if the town acquires those properties, if they're going to be parking or whatever, you know, three feet might make a big difference. So, yep. Yeah, I think yeah, leave it up to you. Okay.

And I can easily see this is this is just an additive point. If we do end up parking, you know, in that corner and we have wide sidewalks and the art center is right across the street, we're probably going to do some really careful thinking about the egress across Clayton Court right there and make sure it's, you know, really safe, etc. And so that could all be part of this conversation because there'd be hundreds of people walking across there throughout the course of the year. Yeah, they're gonna we should leave it finite for the civil engineer so they're not Yeah. charging us more than 5,200 bucks. Yeah, but for a straight line that's just pull the

30 30 hours of work. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they say. Okay, cool. Want to make a motion? I make a motion to approve resolution 202603 approving North Frasier AB sidewalk design. Second. All in favor. All right, we're moving on now. Cool. All right. Ski ride save Google ad campaign update. Sarah,

everyone. So, the ad has come to um completion and these are just the stats from that. So, we spent about $2,800. Itund roughly 160,000 people saw it and then 3,500 people clicked on that ad. So, a lot of people saw it. Not a ton clicked on it, but I feel like it still got some some solid traction. Um, could be due to go to the numbers, weather stuff up here, just like could be due to like people just knowing that up here is we don't have a lot of snow right now. We don't have much going on,

right? And you know, the at the end of the day, the real the real test would be to see if people actually used the savings, you know, so it would be up to the business owners to get a full report from them. to see if it worked. Either way, I think it it brought good attention to the town, you know, and the businesses and stuff like that. And maybe maybe you did see the ad and you're like, "Oh, I didn't know I could ride the train to Frasier." And you didn't click on it. You know, just because you didn't click doesn't mean you weren't interested or didn't participate.

Yeah. I would say that the any anything that you put out there, if people are viewing it, what's the actually what's the average view like time? So, it should say it on there somewhere. I just This is just a screenshot. The whole thing is

because the average view time is probably more important than anything. So, if 160,000 people watch it and then the average view time is 10 seconds and it's a 15-second ad, we did our job. If it's like two seconds, then, you know, maybe we have a problem. Maybe we want to try to do something different. But I mean 160,000 people is a a good number just seeing it. And even if they just see that it's Brazier and Amtrak, that's you can kind of get the gist in a 5 seconds of that commercial what's going on, which is good,

right? Yeah. I think a lot of people probably weren't clicking on it because you just watch it. I'm not going to click on it. I'm not going up to the mountains. There's no snow. I think the hope was we could reuse this ad, but I feel like in a typical year we would want to refilm. So there actually is snow to come.

I was going to bring that up to you. So, we did like I um had them shoot additional footage uh for the Find Your Flow on Snow and I'm definitely going to have like a lot of that re-shot. So, we can um take that footage and put it back into this ride ski save thing and for next year when there is some snow. Yeah, I think it was a good project. Yeah, I don't think so. I think you know that we can say we made an impact and there's not a lot of there's not a lot of things going on in Frraasier that are, you know, getting 3,000 people click

online. So, that's good. You know, what did find your flow get? Do you know? Um, I think that was if you look at one of the Did it get a little better click rate? Can't see this. Yeah, I mean I arguably I was spending more money on it too and did it earlier. Yeah. Um but like in that that fourth SL Sarah, can you pull up that fourth slide? Yeah, it's not uh for some reason it's not advancing for me. There it is. So that second the first one is the fire and ice and the next one is find your flow and the one after that is ride ski save. Those were all paid ads. You can see the difference. Yeah. How much?

I don't know. At the like that that binder flow is still running. I'm going to switch that over to summer stuff. Yeah, probably because ours only ran for a little while, too. So that's, you know, and I think that maybe the the ride ski save ride. Some people might just look at it and think about snowboards, not not a train. I mean, they're watching it just intuitively. So it pops up with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just the name that you click on because I clicked on it. No, it's a video. No, I mean this is like popping up in your feed before you watch another video. Gotcha. Like if you're if you're like watching a speed video and you're in Denver, then it could target you and be like,

"Oh, well, you're into that. Here you go. Check this out." Before you watch your video, it's going to put a commercial. That's that commercial. Gotcha. So, I think it was done good and I think, you know, Yeah. we should probably look at things we can do for the summer. We got to stay ahead of the ball though if want to do it. That was like a two-day production, which is insane that it even got done. So, I was It was like 10:30 at night and I was calling the voice actor in LA being like, "Hey, uh, can you do this tomorrow?" She was like, "Uh, for like I think it was still good. A tenth of the price that we would normally take." She was like, "Yeah, sure." I think any attention we get on Fraser good.

Yeah. You know, that was awesome. which is more than what we did, you know, last year and the year before and the year before that. So, all right. Yeah. How fast that was done. Cool. I still think as part of the summer campaign, there's a real opportunity, particularly now at the train service, to promote Frasier as the moderate temperature um excursion, a day's drive from Denver. um whether we do that through social media and other promotions. It just seems to me that the hotter it gets in Denver and the more I hear people complaining about that the more we're alternative I can like create some ads so like when we see the temperatures fluctuate down there just like start to send them out um so I can kind of have that on deck but I think that's that's a great idea

like cool off in Frasier. Yeah. Nick, did you get anyone coming in? Did you know do you notice people offer you know um cashing in that rebate or whatever?

Before today's meeting I ran my uh like promo report um and uh I don't think you guys want to know the exact numbers but um I do think that the impressions are the most important part. But that being said we had three total coupons used between December and uh yesterday. Um, and uh, uh, is a pretty small portion of my total sales, like less than 0.01% or so. Um, but that being said, it needs to continue because y

this year, like as you guys all said, the weather and um, that wasn't really the point of it this year. I it was more like getting our name out there. Like totally

when I first moved here, like I I hadn't really heard of Frraasier. Um it was just kind of like, oh, let's move here cuz my wife had his job with the county now and it seems really nice up here. But like prior to that, never the thing. But like now people actually know where it is, which is really cool. And it's because of things like this that people understand where Frasier is and that we are a thing that they need to come visit. But, uh, to Greg's point about traffic and like, um, heat and everything, um, would it be possible to potentially explore another ad that like kind of hits on the whole traffic part? Um, where you don't have to sit through traffic to get here. Um,

and then it's like cooler. um kind of hit on those two points because uh with how this year has already been um it's going to be hot as heck in the metro area um this summer. So, if we can hit on that, I think that'd be a huge impact for us um in these coming months. So, yeah, I think that testimony from Nick as a business owner is great justification to keep this going. Um, and I'm sure the other businesses think so too. And then yeah, if we can be more forward thinking, which I'll leave to parks, if you had any

if you had literally any coupon used, that's fine. It doesn't matter. No, I don't think you can quantify like how impactful that was. And I don't I'm not I wasn't asking to like say, well, you know, all right, now we can't justify because we spent 20%. I think like that's our role is to somebody's dollars on things that can't immediately be justified with a return on income but you know you know more awareness more growth is all benefiting these businesses and something that they can't go justify on their own spending three grand to go you know that such a low rate return that's like no really everything's just PR right it's like just get your name out there

no matter what we do like coupon you So, it's you don't get that many. Yeah. I find that like almost nobody uses coupons anyways. Yeah. Is there an opportunity just being a cheap person to use that voice actor again and have her like record some stock stuff that we could Yeah. go to the well with. She really loves Rager cuz she grew up here. Yeah. So, she's definitely down and they actually have used her now a couple different times. So maybe looking at her as the voice of Frraasier, which is kind of cool. She's really good. I mean, she worked for Intel WebMD. She's like way up there for that. So

she would just be beside herself to continue to work with us. I know that. Yeah. Cuz I I don't know anything about social media, but everyone says it's like a consistency thing and keeping going. So I think we should keep it going. and she and it's hard to find a voice that matches. The excitement in her voice is like kind of playful and you know it and it's inviting whereas a lot of voices aren't. It's like you know you get like the Morgan Freeman like narration out there. There's a lot of different narration, right? So I think I think it'd be cool to hit her up for anything. Yeah. Is this which budget line item does this hit for us? Marketing. marketing, which is a part of like community outreach,

which is how much dollars? Um, we had 10,000 again because we rolled over pretty much all of last year. So, marketing is part of this. Um, the comeup conference series that we're talking about in just a minute here is part of that. That said, if you could I would probably keep that in community outreach, but we could also shift that one to training programs if we felt that was justified. there's some flexibility there. Um, so there's there's money there to be spent. Is this just like a good thing we have a proof of concept on that is worth putting dollars towards and keeping

Well, and I already have all like the the videos from last year and all I would really have to do I'm just standing up here thinking out loud is like tailor those headlines a little bit different. Um because we do have like early mountain bike season footage where like the mountains are still snowcapped and then when we shot some later on like mid like mid to end summer where everything's green and and colorful. So like it all I like all I would have to do is you know switch the headlines to like is it hot in Denver come up to Frasier you know um and keep that keep those same videos running but just like tweak it a little bit. So, I think it's really easy to do and like I'm always thinking, you know,

four to six months ahead. So, I can do the forward thinking pretty good. Earra is great at that by the week before of like um to your point, Nick, about traffic. Right now, the only train running in the summer is the regular Amtrak, which people can take. You have to be very flexible because it tends to be hours late. But mountain rail, as far as I know, is still slotted to begin this November. So, next summer, that would be a great summer option. Next summer, we'll really um

Yeah. And I did reach out to businesses um about their traffic from this. Um I meant to do that last week and did it about 8:00 a.m. this morning. So, um I will follow up with an email and just let you know. Um I don't know if Fraser Valley Arts got any tickets. I I think we had one person who walked in and you know took the discount and I did cash but other than that no

also something to think about is along the same lines is influencers. Frrazier hasn't put any money into influencers and they'll kind of create these reels and reels continue to go right and you're not so you're paying somebody to do it anyways but it might be a good idea. A lot of places do it. Like Bale does it, Copper does it. Like so many places pay influencers to come up, go eat somewhere, drink some beer, put it on their social media, and they get hundreds of thousands of views to do it. Have I don't know if you've ever seen those reels in Denver that's like, "Look at this secret dim sum restaurant," you know, and like these are the best restaurants you didn't know about. those get millions of views and they're one person walking in there with a DJI camera just being like so it's a lot less production value and it's good to get that person here because they have their own following. So not only is it getting out to new following, it's getting out to their following and their following is following them for traveling specifically.

Would you able like rather than pay them just like give them some free hotel nights? You can do that. You can do that. And a lot of towns will put in there or like um like resort management groups or whatever will have a button for like are you an influencer or you want to do an influencer collaboration? Click here. And then they'll click and they'll hit up Sarah and be like I want to come up. What are my deals? And you'll say well we got a free place for you here and dinner for you here or whatever. and and we have a hotel soon opening who probably also has the same interest and maybe partner with them

100%. So, it's just something to keep in mind for the future. We should move in that direction at some point and still do these ads because these are like a separate demographic, but those are like instant, you know, oh, this person says it's good. I'm going versus like, hey, come look at us. We're cool. You know, and we're like trying to convince them. They're already convinced if somebody puts it on there. So, and if you have I sounds like you've got some contacts if you want to send them our way or do an initial reach out.

Yes and no. I mean, my contacts might be more worldwide um Denverbased or like, you know, people that are here in Colorado. That one I'll have to look into that. Okay. Or and I can ask some of my LA friends like they're they work under umbrella companies. So what they do is they'll have 300,000 influencers that they can contact instantly. Oh jeez. Okay.

Under the same one. So they'll say Colorado, oh look, you know, so and so is out there in travel and or so and so is out there in action sports and they can reach out and see what they want. So I'll have to I'll have to check that out. But the ones that come out to visit me are like likely not the people that you want promoting Frasier. Okay. Well, we can keep talking more about that option, too. Yeah. So, in terms of looking ahead, does the DDA want to put some money into something like

this um either using material that Sarah has from last summer? We again, we have to shift from the train, I think, um for this summer or do we want to hold off and be ready to go next year with mountain rail and the ski train? I think it would be cool because you're if people are already talking about mountain biking, they have been since December. So, it would be good to get going on it. Yeah. Okay. And the town does I mean Sarah does find your flow stuff for the town. So, I think it really would be a question of if the DDA has a different angle they want to put money into or or maybe we can just give her some money to promote an ad she's got. Yeah.

Yeah. I was just going to say I don't think I need to. You guys have a small budget. I think right now we've done a pretty good job of committing our funds. Um, wait to see if something does come up that we really want to do. If you think of something I would say hold on because like in general I always have some kind of just overall like come to Frasier ad running all the time. Yeah. Um, so I wouldn't spend your money unless it's on something. She can just take your input focus on heat which I feel like you've talked about before too Sarah. mountain rail happens and our new station opens. Yeah.

And then another thing I wanted to bring up, we're always looking for extra money for the snow sculpture for fire and ice. Um right now in the special events line item budget, we have um 30,000 for that that just the snow sculpture. And just putting this out there, I don't know if the DDA would want to contribute in 2027 some money to that potentially. Um, just think about it. I certainly would be open to that. Yeah. Because I think it drives um economic development and I like, you know, the feedback that we constantly get is like, "We want more snow sculptures. We want it to be bigger." And it's like, yeah, but it costs money. Yeah. And I've gone to other melt.

I've Yeah. And I've gone to other places to look for money and just have had no luck. Um, like Grand County Tourism, they've shot me down a couple times. So, I was surprised. I heard a lot of people ask and talking about it which is just funny because I didn't really think about it but I I heard it more in conversation. What about more sculpture? Yeah. For Aspen or they were talking about freezer fire and ice just for fire and ice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got spoiled initially when we have the contests. Mhm. But then those folks pulled out, right? Well, kind of whatever. They were difficult. It was a challenging situation. Let's just put it that Okay. And then the warmer temperatures. That's been that's been tricky.

Yeah. I know the guys were telling me that on this the big sculpture they couldn't do it on the west side because it was melting. Well, they never do it on that. They It's always Well, number one, photographically, it's just better when it's facing like you can get that. Yeah. The um Frasier and then the mountains in the background and then the fireworks and stuff like that. But also that the sun beats down on that side no matter if there's snow or not. Um, so it ends up melting regardless of kind of temperature and but like the past two years have been really bad. Yeah. Just keep that in your your melons for later on.

I mean Breck does the or Silverthorn or Breck does like a big snow castle, right? You seen that one? Keystone does and Snice is the one that does that. And I asked them, I asked Keith what that costs and he was like 180. Yeah. 180,000. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a huge attraction. It's like And that includes like maintenance throughout the year and like they do copper is big. They have like a big Yeti and stuff like that. Remember, you know, that's pretty expensive, too. But isn't it on the mountain? Yeah. So, you got to have No, there's one there was one though that was down low. down low like in Silverthorn that I can't remember if it was like 20 bucks but it was lit up and it was just

that's the member Steve that's the um that old contest that they used it's the um no ice cast member which we were trying to get that was back in the day when it was colder it's warmer now okay we're going to get colder I would hope so but I don't No they have one right on the interstate in Dylan silver and I think it's all lit up yeah I think I think that's Ice Capital for that. They get a lot of money back because Denver comes up for that, you know. That's something that you could think about, too. Well, the the main thing with that is the water. So, and that's the thing with, you know, a bigger snow sculpture and stuff like that, too. Like the water is challenging. So,

yeah. Did they blow snow over in Grand Lake this year? Yes, they did. A lot of snow from like from Grand Lake. How did they do that? Yeah, the snow makers invested like 30,000 in a snow gun. That's what we should do.

I'll just throw out as well in relation to the fire and ice discussion. Um, I will be working on bringing that event sponsorship policy to the board hopefully for our next meeting. So, I think this could be a part of that. um along with potentially the film festival or any other events that wanted to request funds or seek support from the DDA. Um we have been having some conversations in relation largely to the Lions Ponds area as we're finishing up the bike park um and getting ready to move to other stages of that in terms of what that looks like and some master planning over there. Um the mayor is interested in having more events um throughout the year, but I think particularly he was looking at winter. We've been trying to balance that with visit events or just having more kind of ongoing in activities and amending amenities. So things like ice skating on the ponds that's been thrown out. Um I think it'd be kind of cool if there was the logistics worked out for somebody to sponsor ice skates that could be, you know, rented for cheap or for free if we did do something like that. So there could be some cool DDA projects to consider in that realm in the future as well.

That would be cool. It could be a revenue stream for us too. Um but um I had another question about the advertisements for the summer. Um,

would anybody feel comfortable um allocating money towards um kind of pumping up the numbers that that Sarah would be putting into those already running ads for weekends or weeks that um if we keep an eye on like the weather um and like spiking those ads over that time if it's I mean like over a hundred in Denver that weekend being like okay let's pump an extra couple hundred bucks in for this weekend and see if we can't get more people up here for that. Um, and just have an allocated amount of money if we can spend each month or each uh, season or whatnot to kind of like help that already uh, running campaign to kind of be more efficient when it needs to be. Does anybody have any comments about that at all? or you know

I mean Nick I could I could do that with my marketing budget money too. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I like um that was pointed out before, you know, like my budget's pretty solid. So like I don't know if you guys need to spend your money on it when I'm doing it already. And I I will keep an eye on the weather.

I think that's a great idea. But I think from the DDA perspective, if we can like get our arms around either doing the ski ride safe thing every year, like what's our big focus? But I do think that's a great idea and the best time to come to Frasier when it's 100 degrees. It really is 75. I mean, it's why we often like, all right, this is what we're going to do with the small funds we have is important because we don't have a ton of plays. Yeah. And some of that will change, right? Like if we have another fire pop off then it's just going to be smoky up here and people will be going from hot to breathing smoke so they don't really Yeah, it's not worth it.

Yeah, it all depends on what happens, right? But um yeah, sure. Can we maybe add to the next agenda to discuss more about an influencer for this summer or and then because if we don't need to pay a lot for Sarah to help with these ads and everything then maybe we can kind of spend some of that money or our time on an influencer and it'll cost

back to the businesses and actually highlight some of the businesses or something. It'll cost close to the same probably, you know. I mean, I don't think we paid any hardly anything for that. Sarah did a really good job of somehow convincing Connor to do that. Good for you. Um, but it would be cool to like kind of do that in addition to probably, you know, so like if if cuz like if an influencer does it and they're like, "All right, cool." You know, I my the whole crowd's looking at that and going, "All right, I want to go up there." They're probably gonna do research and find what Sarah already has out there, you know, like they might go to explore. And I mean, if we could like

I don't know what the going rate is, but like if we can give them a free place to stay huge, you know, Barry's not here, but maybe we sign him up for dinner at the distillery and beers at I like between everyone here, we could at least give them stuff to do and some something that's not monetary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're getting like a heck of a deal if you give an influencer dinner and you get 100,000 views. Barry would be like ecstatic. That'd be the best thing he ever had happen. I don't know what it Yeah. But I mean, but we could sweeten the deal, but you know, free mountain bike rental. Sure. Yeah. Things like, you know, like Yeah. Yeah. You got to have a plethora of stuff for the deal. Yeah.

Nope. That's what I meant by hotel night. No. No. But yeah, I think that's something that we should talk about more and yeah, we can do that. Um, I will say again, this influencer thing is kind of out of my realm, so any leads that can be sent our way to look at would be helpful in pulling that together. Yeah, I can talk to a few of them. Okay, cool. I mean, I know like Yeah, there'll be some people. I have I have um some skateboarders coming up this summer, but I don't know if they'll be of help or not. They're really famous, but I don't know if they'll do anything here.

Okay, we can look at pulling that together. I want to make sure we have enough time to talk about the come up conference, which I believe is next on the agenda. Yeah.

Um, yeah. So, I'll say a huge thank you to our panelists and to Perks and Kelly, and I know Steve met with him as well for pulling that together. Um, I think it went great, but I'll let uh Perks and Kelly share any thoughts you guys have and talk about um kind of moving forward with that. There was quite a few people there. Um, seems well received by everyone and I have a lot of notes on things that people really wanted to learn more about. So, seems like it will be well received. You have to decide how often you want to do it. What did they want to learn more about?

Networking. Um, and like certain opportunities that would help them make their steps into into being business owners. I think networking was the one that came up several times.

Yeah, I think that was like a really unique networking opportunity opposed to like what the chamber does or it was just different. Um, I think that we could do it better in and subjectwise. I think that we had a lot of openness at that one. It was really good to kind of dial people in. I don't know about you two, but um like we could do one with all realators that are, you know, there's four realtors discussing with people how you get a home with your resources that you have. You know, like I've had I had a lot of interest in that sort of thing. like um and then you could do one with just a few topics. I just feel like when we were doing it, there was topics started doing this, you know, going all over the place.

There's nothing wrong with that, right? Um also, one thing was we pretty much were maxed out there. Like if we had another 10 people, it would have been difficult to project.

Yeah. and we would have had to have a PA in there, you know, just because nobody would be able to hear in the back because it's a coffee shop and grinders are going off and whatever else, right? Um, so that was about the perfect amount of people. So, we will have to move. Um, I did think about the green church. I also thought about just going to like the rec center on the conference room. I think something about being right off the highway made it really inviting like I don't need to go over here and go to this place and park. was like, "Pull off, go in." You know, we did have some people that came and left before it was over because they need to get to work or their kids were crying or whatever. Um, but it was really, it was really cool to see that people really liked it. Also, the just to kind of tell you how my posts went. When I was posting on my page, I was able to have 8,000 views on my metrics and 700 interactions. That means from people sharing it or it going on to Grant County online or wherever it got shared to and whoever. That's how many people kind of clicked and interacted. I had over had about a hundred comments I think on that. Um,

Parks, quick question. Were you sharing Callie's post from the D? I made my own post. Okay. Um I did share hers. He did share and his his post on the downtown page had over 1,800 views and then like the business enhancement grant had 260 views. So sharing it obviously did make a big difference. Well, that's what I'm wondering. I think that would just help bring traffic to that DDA page since you do have so many followers and Well, I think it's just the way that you word things, right? Like I've shared stuff that doesn't get any views. Shared I've made posts that people are like, "Cool parks, we don't care what you're saying."

Um, but how you say things is really important in this community obviously. Um, there's a couple ways to get attention. Um, I think that

this is a this is a great um this is a something that people are actively thinking about for themsel and their future and to show that we're trying to help with that is huge. I have had people say, "I want this every month." I don't think that's totally necessary. At first I thought it was. Um, now looking back, it is, you know, it's a decent amount to put on. It's not terribly difficult, but to line four people up and to promote them, you know, we would we would be doing more work. So, I think I think just keeping it every other month for now and then um and and discussing points. Having points because we can say the same post every time and we have four new panelists, it's going to lose attraction. to keep it going is to hit a single topic and say, "Now is your chance to get all of your resources together with these four people on how to get a house."

Yeah. Done. That's going to blow up. I guarantee you that'll blow up. If we hit it from the other angle of, you know, hey, we're doing, you know, entrepreneurship again. That if if you do that over and over, it's not going to work. and we're going to lose it. So, we have to find a new point every time and then find people that are experts on those points for the most part that people trust because you can bring in, you know, Keller Williams and yeah, people will be like, "Yeah, I don't know." But if you bring in

Lindsay Marorrow from Kelly Keller Williams now on her social platforms, you know that you're going to hit a pretty good amount and I can push it and say she is my personal friend and that's going to, you know, we're going to get similar reactions. Yep. So, yeah. And if if we have the wherewithal to record these events, I think that would be cool. I um in my my own consulting business, one of the things I moved to is rather it was fewer in-person meetings and more of them that were recorded Zooms that then had a Q&A that was live and people can watch the recording whenever they want to. Yeah.

And so if you do these events, you you'll get your you'll get your inerson folks, but then we could use the DDA to be the repository of the recordings and we drive traffic there and people six years from now could be, hey, I'm I'm ready to buy a house. I wasn't then. And they could watch the video. Who we hire to do that? Do you know for if we wanted to record the next? I think anybody could do that. I don't think you need anything in particular. Like I don't think you need capturing the sound. Um sound would be I think that you could have KFFR do it honestly if you really wanted to get a collaborative and good idea

throw it up on the radio when they have nothing going on which is plenty of the time, you know, and just say, "Hey, come throw your recorder in there." They have these little recorders that they put in the room. And they have like two little microphones like the crosshatch and it it's an ambient. It's like an ambient recorder so it gets everything in the room and if it recognizes sound way over there it goes in so you don't have to have like the microphone on people. If you have somebody with a camera trying to record, you're going to have really crappy sound because there's too many people there. And KFFR now has a public affairs series. This would fit very nicely into that. Um could even see if we could host it then. Yep. Yep. Oh, there's an idea.

Very open to that. I would encourage I mean, I don't know that statutoily we have to, but I think it would make sense to try to hold it within the DDA boundaries, which would exclude the rec center as an option and the church actually as well. Um, why the church? Our church. It's it's not within the DDA boundaries.

Oh, that's right. It's contract. And again, if there's no viable place to have it, I think we can do it elsewhere. But I think it it is nice to have it kind of at a business and somewhere within the boundaries if that works. I think a lot of the businesses too, they're closed in the morning. Like the distilleries, the breweries, you can ask them to go in and it'll be quiet and just have those people in there still bring in coffee or have their kitchen make something or something like that. Um, yep. It's good. And then KFFR, bike shop, whatever. You know, there's opportunities that we can ask.

Yep. I'm looking. I actually brought up the posts here so that we could actually see what they are. So on the Facebook, I think on my profile alone was 5,856 people viewed it. And then 165 engaged it from my profile post. And this is Facebook. So this isn't even Instagram. Instagram was a little bit more

for views, but that's like widespread. That's like, oh, people in Texas are viewing it, right? Um, and 43% were women, 55% were men. 35 to 44 was 38.8%. So, that's kind of a target demographic there. Um, 45 to 54 were still 20%. And then 25 and under were 20%. That's actually a really good spread. Usually I don't have that.

That is a good spread. And then feed was so that means that people's feed like what they have like recommended that I'm in their feed or things I'm recommending are in their feed was 88% feed which is huge. So that means that if you were scrolling Facebook that day and you saw it pop up, that's because it thinks that you're interested in this topic, right? So we hit the topic really well. So that means that 88% in feed is that 88% of people are interested in a topic. So I think that that's um so we hit the topic pretty good and we had all kinds of reactions and likes and whatever else. I think that doesn't matter as much. Um but yeah, so I think we could move forward with just picking a topic for the next one. I think real estate would be an easy transition.

I think that's good decision and we should early season and it's time. Yeah, we should probably get Ellie would be really cool because she's a local and she's of the age. And then calendar I know Madison reached out. I had like 10 real estate agents I think reach out to do it which is it's a really like obviously like real estate agents are super into that sort of stuff. So, it'd be easy to do, but who we pick, I think, would be tough. And Parks, do you want to stick with that same time frame of the Tuesdays we're not meeting at 8? We did it 80, right?

That's up to you guys. I don't mind, but if if there's a lot on the agenda, then, you know, taking away a meeting probably isn't good. But, um,

well, why don't we go ahead and conflate the two real quick? Um so we do have the next item completes not the right word but the next item on the agenda is just the discussion of the meeting schedules. We had talked about with doing these um conference series we were to do these every other month to be respectful of people's time and maybe we didn't actually need to be meeting every month anyways to do the DDA board meetings every other month. Um I think that is fine for now in terms of how much we have. It does mean um particularly for people like myself of just making sure we're planning ahead because yeah our next meeting is in May and then it's summer. So if we wanted something for summer like ideally we're talking about that now and finalizing anything in May. Um but I think it does work to do it every other month if that's what the board wants to do. Um I think for the conference series we can keep using that time or if we want to mix up the time. I know we feel like there's pros and cons of a consistent schedule that people can rely on and try to make work versus moving it around to try to accommodate people that maybe are working in the mornings. Um, so I defer to the board what you guys want to do with

I had a lot of people say, "Hey, it'd be cool if you did this over lunch break." The problem with that is is that we have like 40 minutes of their time before they have to leave. I think that if we just keep it same place next time, same time, same day roughly, just let them change. I had a lot of people reach out and say, "I wish I could have made it. I wanted to blah blah blah." Right? So, makes sense to do it on the same day, but it was back in Tuesday and then switch from evening morning between the ones.

I would say just keep it in the morning. I mean, I don't like evenings, so I'm not advocating for that. You're saying to to people you're swapping back and forth for every other one. Let's say that we did it again in the morning and then yeah, we had more and more people reaching out. Then let's worry about doing an actual evening conference. But well, in something like real estate, that would be guessing an easier one to get people and maybe you just lock in the next two. Do one morning, one evening, and let people know if you can't make it to this, we're doing an evening one in two months. Um I think you'd have plenty of people that would be happy to come talk at both of those. Yeah.

Yeah. I think just again put it there and put the time frame down and people will make time to be there. They'll they'll ask off. it's during the week. People aren't that busy at their jobs anyways during that time for this demographic of person. It's like, you know, from what I see on who was interested. Um I also think that we could um we could probably pump up the DDA a little harder at the next one. We tried a little bit, you know, and I think it was really cool to have an audience and say, you know, this is all coming from the DDA, you know,

say what it is. That's DDA. Uhuh. You know, parks to that point, um, one of the things we do with Fraser Valley Arts is before every event or during every event, we we do a spiel and it's usually me and I try and keep it short. Um, and it seems like it's redundant. Every single time I do it, somebody comes up to me afterwards and says, "I had no idea. How do I get involved? How do I give you money? How do I volunteer?" etc. So, I think you're absolutely right.

And these are the type of events that are drawing the exact person that's going to be on this board. And so if we're out there saying, "Hey, our next applications to be on the DDA are this time and this time," I think that's where you're going to get your next applicants. Also, with that in mind, those people are going to be more interested to give their time for free to this with these events. They're going to be like, "Oh, well, this is an event that came from that. I want to do that." Sidewalk discussion, maybe less, right? or you know so it's like we don't like if people are weighing in on this video they're going to weigh in for only one topic and leave just like a town board meeting when I come I'm like oh I have to be there for that topic and then I'm like the whole time can I leave can I leave

so if they know these are coming out of it they're going to be like oh that's what I want that's my purpose I want to be over there getting this sort of thing done in a DDA so we'll get these seats filled a lot easier and I'm in for four years. So, that would be great, you know, to find someone to take the seat after or whatever. Right. So, are you hoping to have the reals for an April meeting? I think so. Then I've already had so many of them reach out that I don't think that's going to be a problem. I think it's going to be a problem choosing and making someone feel like

if I could make like I think you'll have plenty of realtors who want to do it. I think getting someone from the housing authority too would be a good idea. They have so many tools that people are unaware of. Yeah. And even the realtors a lot of times are less familiar with because it's always changing what sort of stuff they have. So I think someone like that would be great on that. And so what's also going to happen is what happened at the last meeting where a lot of people came that probably didn't need any of the information and they came to just be in the discussion.

Yeah. So we had a quite a few realators and people that came to be a part of this discussion just to give information. So they were acting as panel members in the crowd which is really really cool and I think that you would be a good resource on that too because you're part of development. You can sit in the crowd or whatever you want. I can just like yeah I'm not getting on the panel. No or we could put together a panel. No, I'd be happy to that. Um, like that could be the one after is moving from, you know, see because you you're kind of in all of it. You're in entrepreneurship, you're in, you know, housing and Yeah. and development. So, no, I'd be happy to.

You could be a really good resource. Yeah, we could have a separate Yeah. section like this one just be like living and then that one being well, you're building a business now. What do you do? Um, Monica Anderson is getting into commercial real estate, so she would be good to go that one instead of like residential real estate. Mhm. total like

I think holistically whether it's commercial or residential like valuing real estate is such a real like like how to underwrite real estate for like entrepreneurs whether it's a lease or purchase for someone buying their own home like understanding real estate finance and might be too niche for like the comeup conference but I think that's such a good skill and like anyway I think that's a good like people need to know more about that. Yeah. On the last one, like it was interesting. You know, there was plenty of people that were saying that, hey, we bought a home and made money on it and then we were able to like do things with that and get a bigger home or get a business. And I was one of those people that said that, you know, like

Yeah. So, I think that's important. A lot of people don't look at it like that that hey dude that could be your come up is literally buying a tiny little apartment and you know making into something selling it. So the present presenters to help their home down ideally they would have a business within the DDA boundary thought a business or a home. I guess a Frasier Valley would be more accurate. Yeah. But it would be held in a Fraser Valley. But here's the thing is that we had people multiple people from Graanby come to that. Yeah.

And so like people are looking at Frraasier as kind of a I don't know they're they're looking at us as someone that's setting an example, you know? So and and the Graanby Town Board is even doing that to an extent. They're watching what you guys are doing, you know, since I have a business over there I get talked to about what we're doing over here all the time and we've been reached out to before. um to help them with stuff. So, I think I think you know countywide is it's it's fine. I don't think it has to be I don't think the realtor has to be only Okay. I was thinking to help you narrow down the selection.

I think it's about the best. It's about the best person, you know. You know well enough to pass through this too. Yeah. Right. And who who's a draw? I mean Ellie has a huge draw. Yeah. Ellie's like me. She's been here forever. And like if Ellie puts out a post, Samantha Wise, like it's going to be four or 500 people see it. Do you want to send me whoever contact info you have? And do you want them to answer the same questions as you guys did? Well, I think we might need to come up with, you know, re why why they're in real estate or something like it might be a little different, but roughly. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, parks and Cali, do you guys want to work on kind of finalizing that as well as a location? Um, is Yeah, why don't why don't we just grab some coffee, Cali, and one of these mornings if you're if you have time and then that's fine. Monday or Tuesday next week. Yeah, I think we did good last time. I think we really and the posts that really made a difference were two weeks before the conference. Two weeks and a week before. Yeah. And April's good because a lot of people are gone. Yep. Cool.

All right. So, we'll shoot for the second Tuesday in April. Once again, location to be determined. Cali and Perks. We'll work out the details and we'll share them with you all. And I like the idea of moving to every other month for the uh DDA meeting. Okay. And if we need an an interim one, we call it. Yes. Well, I was just looking too because Yeah, if we did that, we could even do December and January, end of the year, beginning of the year. So, it's like seven a year. Yeah. if we kept Oh, that's not bad at all. I was like, that actually wouldn't be that bad. Yeah.

So, I would suggest then, and this will save me from needing to post that meetings are cancelled. Um, if somebody would like to make a motion to schedule DDA meetings for odd months on the second Tuesday of the month at 9:00 a.m. for the remainder of 2026 and as needed in between. So, moved. Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi.

Well done. All right. It looks like we've got two minutes for updates here. Um I think I shared most of the town updates with you all. Um we talked about the seed dot planning initiatives in that area. The bike park grand opening is tentatively being scheduled for Saturday, May 30th. Um so everyone's invited. Uh if you know of people that would like to participate, send them our way. But we're looking to have some kind of beginner bike clinics and maybe some expose with jumps and some different tents and food vendors. And KFR, I think, is going to DJ. So, it should be a fun fun event for the town. Um, kick off the bike park. Hopefully, we'll be able to get all the work done pending weather if we don't start getting all that snow in in April and May that we haven't been getting. Um, I did want to mention the Downtown Colorado, Inc. annual conference is coming up um the first few days of April. It's in Grand Junction, so I realize it's a trip. Um but if anybody is interested in attending, we do have money in our budget to cover that. So come see me, talk to me sooner versus later and we could look at um if that's something viable for you to to register you and get a hotel and all of that. Um, so yeah, a bit of a commitment, but I do think it's a useful event just to see what other areas are doing in terms of downtown development and talk to different communities. And then the last town update I had,

do you have dates on that? Yes. Um, it's April like 1st through the 4th, I want to say. I think it's like the Tuesday through Friday, depending on. And a lot of people just go for a couple days, too. Yeah.

Um, we did approve business enhancement grants. So, thank you to Bill and Abby. Aby's sick today, by the way, um, for participating on that committee. Um, but the board this time around agreed with all of their recommendations. Um, so the post office building is going to be getting new sighting. Frasier Valley Arts is working on an electronic display sign that will go in front of the post office. Colorado Corn Dog Company is replacing their front serving tray and windows. Um, and the other two gas station awards. So, Frasier Quickstop is replacing their or painting their sighting and roof. And then Frasier Fuel Company, which is the Grand Park marketplace over there, they're redoing some of their um the pavers are all uneven. So, they're going to redo that and correct the drainage that they believe has caused the pavers to quickly kind of get out of of whack. Um, and they're looking to put in some dark sky compliant lighting, replace the lighting they have, and then a sign for their car wash. Um, so we did basically we used up all the money this year. So, we'll close that down for the year. Um, and the last thing, parks, you reminded me, we do have two board seats that expire in June of this year. Um, so those would be Nick Krabs and actually Katie Souls. Um, so those people, you're welcome to apply for your seats again as always, but if you want to get the word out, um, those do expire. I'll verify this, I believe, in June. So, we were a little late last year.

The board, yours is a board seat. So, we'll if there's other board members that are interested in serving. Yep. Okay. Um, and again, if you wanted to continue, we can consider that as well. But, but yeah, um, I'll make a note to make sure we talk with the word about that. Is Colorado Corn dog for sale? I have not heard that. Saw that. Not to my knowledge. They seem pretty happy. Somebody sent me a post and it pretty much looked like that was happening, but I don't I don't know. I'll send it to you, Nick. Yeah, that'd be uh interesting to uh take a look at. I

imagine you would be interested. Um are there any other updates from the board for the group? I move to journ. Seconded in favor. I I Thank you. Thank you.