Downtown Development Authority Board - Regular Meeting

And then he's like he's walking, is he? No, he's walking. Yeah. The school wanted to like not let me know. They pretty much started walking there, but yeah. All right. Um, are we ready? Cool. Can we get a roll call? Abby Samson, Katie Souls, Steve Fitzgerald, Greg Beckler, Park Thompson, Bill Palmer, Nick Crab, All right, we need a motion to approve the agenda. So moved. Second. All in favor? I.

Um, we also need a motion to approve the consent agenda. Or do I do that every time? So move for the minutes. You have minutes. Second. All in favor? I. All right, we got open forum. Anybody for open forum today? Doesn't look like it. Pretty empty chairs over there. Come on, community. Get involved. We do have Tiffany Gatesman online and I just unmuted her, so I apologize for that. Tiffany make a note that she Tiffany Gatesman is present. Thank you.

Um discussion of possible action resolution number 202601 designating posting place per DDA meeting notices. That would probably put people in those chairs. Um yeah. All right.

Yes. So, this resolution, uh, Colorado statutes require that we do this every January at the first meeting of the year. Um, it just states where we will place our DDA agendas and packets. Um, so online has been our go-to. It's the same resolution that we had last year. Uh, we are still able to post it elsewhere if we want to put physical copies here at the post office. Um, but this does designate our formal posting as online with the backup that if for any reason we can't do that, we would post it at town hall. Uh, does it make sense to just like pass them out around town like me have a bunch of copies? No. No, you don't do that.

But posting it at the when we put it in the post office at the box there, anybody in town walks by that and they see it. So that's not designated, but it's something that um the town does and we can encourage. It's the closest thing to a community town square that we have. I agree both of us. That's fine. And can I mention too that you know instead of handing out agendas, you can encourage people to sign up for the notifications when the agenda is posted that they receive that notification.

Okay. And if it's helpful, we can go in right now and show you guys all where to do that if anybody doesn't know or doesn't remember. Um I don't find it super obvious unless you know to look for it. But that is the best way for people and then they just get the automatic email or text um however they've signed up to get the notification whenever an agenda is posted. We have the coffee shop, too. I can always put it up there if we wanted to. People stand there and stare at that board all the time.

Yeah, I endeavor to do them on Thursdays because I usually don't work on Fridays. A lot of times I do do it on Fridays, so it just be a matter of getting it up in a timely fashion. Um, realistically, they just don't get finalized and posted until too far in advance. Um, but yeah, I mean, you guys are welcome to share a visual on social media on our account, or is that all too much? Like if people want to participate, they participate. Or I think I I think that if you share it on social media, you'll clutter the account probably. But yeah, because it's every week. So there'd be like a there just be a story though. Yeah, maybe a story. Yeah,

I don't know. You want Yeah, I would be more inclined for social media to take one of the agenda items or decision and cover that and then just reference. You can also see the, you know, the agendas for this and future meetings at the link in the bio. Cool. Yeah, that would probably be a good way to do Yeah, because you're more likely to get somebody to click on, oh, there's something here I'm interested in. Yeah. Cool. So, post office maybe the other things. And that's that's where we're at. Cool. Um, again, officially the resolution designates the website, which I think makes sense in this day and age is the official post required mandatory post.

If we do post at the post office, can we not post it every week and just put a QR code there? that says DDA meeting sign up here or so that way it's just a quick it updates it the post office contains all of the agendas for every meeting for the town so that that box is often jam-packed with all the other agendas that happen also that makes sense are people taking them no they're just posted for visual Oh that's true I think I was like did you get your mail over Yeah, just only 11 times. That's right. Yeah. Okay.

I will say I think when we um did the coffee and pastries, well, we didn't get a ton of people that came early for the coffee and pastries. Um that was the meeting where we've had the most community participation in terms of attending. So, if we wanted to mark a couple others to to do that with, we definitely could. Um I know Ann, I blanked out her name for a second who came who works with the business improvement districts. Um, she mentioned that the business improvement districts that she works with actually tend to do it at different restaurants and buy everybody breakfast and kind of move around town and this was a more formal setting. So, um, I know we've got the come up conference series to talk about um, and that might just be kind of a inway in for people to learn more about what's going on and get involved as well. Cool. Okay.

Uh, Rideky Safe promotion video advertisement. Uh, can we entertain a motion, please? I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 20260101. Second. All in favor? I.

Ride ski safe promotion advertisement Sarah Wick. Hi everybody. So over the Christmas holiday, we shot the ride ski save video. We also shot some extra stuff for the um binder flow on snow, which was a little tricky since there was no snow and it was 55 degrees, but um we did get some extra shots after it snowed. So um yeah. U so I think I don't know if everybody's seen the video, so we're going to play that now. Oh, is my audio gonna be problem? I'm sure.

Where did you end up um doing the unsnow shots? Uh well, we went to the tubing hill and then we went out um to uh what is that? Dead Horse. That was the only That was literally the only place. Yeah. Dead Horse had snow coverage all Thanksgiving. Mhm. Yeah.

That's nice cross country skiing. Yep. Wasn't too fast. A week ago coming down the road. Yeah. Time it right. So you get there after it melts a little. How do I get the audience on that one part of You're doing great. get close to the sign towards buyers. So, this was Connor, right? And tonight, you can pull it up on YouTube, too, if that's easier. It's on the Yeah, I got it up. I just trying to get the audio. So,

that's the video audio. Um, trying to find my house. very small behind that yellow one. Oh jeez, folks.

I do a lot of YouTube. came up with a woman.

Oh, yeah.

It's funny because we just making sure she's okay. We didn't expensive the last So she's still there already.

Then just the sound I hit the sound too. There it is. Trainer buser. running seven days a week all season long. Enjoy cross country skiing and outdoor adventure eat until your part is content and save participating businesses just by showing your ticket. Ride safe in the town of Frasier. Great. Yeah, we wanted to be really quick. I don't We discussed it and it was just the shorter the better at this point. Um, one more time. Yeah, you were. I couldn't hear you.

When we discussed uh when we were going through the editing process, um Parks was on the call, too. We thought like the shorter the better. Um just because Yeah. I mean, it's not that it's not exciting, but it's not like um I don't know. It's like not somebody do triple back flips on a, you know, on a ski jump. So, like we just wanted to get to the point. Yeah. I guess Yeah. And the the voice in that is kind of fun. It's Rebecca Diamond. She went to school up here.

And so she does she's a voice actor in LA right now. And so she's done a lot of huge companies like Apple, Intel, Web MD. So she's really well known. Her name her voice is well known. So it was really cool to get her. She's usually like a grand. And I was like, "This is for Frraasier where you grew up." She was like, "Cool. I'd probably do it for like 500." I was like, "Yeah, we have like a budget of like 150." She was like, she was like, "You know what? I'll do it for you guys." So, big shout out to Rebecca Diamond for doing that.

She was like, "I grew up with you and I love Frraasier." And she said if we want anything in the future, she would love to help us. So, we have a great voice actor. She's farming and and then Sarah, can you pull up the um the stats so far on the ad? Yeah, it looked like they were doing well. Oh, is the in the presentation or is that somewhere else? It's the next page. There we go. So, that's kind of what we spent. Um, so far the impressions are 41,000. That's just how many people have seen it. And then almost a thousand people have clicked on it. And then can you go to the next page? Could you say that again? Like what was the 41,000? That's how many people have seen it just that.

And what was the thousand? That's how many people have clicked on it. What's the difference? The click means that they they interacted with it. Less than not just like a quick like 3se secondond view and they're done with it. It means that they've watched it and were like interested and clicked and read about it or whatever. go link that's the next slide. Oh, okay. It means that those thousand people are people that are actual prospects to come here from the ride saves study. So like they turn into an ROI. It's a pretty awesome conversion rate too.

And then so that third bar is the ride ski save page and you can see so before I mean that was basically at at nothing and now it's at like a a thousand people um have gone to it. The other two are Fire Nice and um Find Your Flow on Snow. And how long have those been running? I mean, the other two have been running like that rides ski save since, you know, November. Um and then Fire and Ice since the Find Your Flow since November. That's with Fire and Ice. Ride ski. Oh, sorry. Um the um find your flow on snow since November and Fire and Ice since like the beginning of or middle of November

and Ride Se ski save Save has been up like a week, right? Yeah. Since January 2nd or 3rd. Yeah, it's doing good. Mhm. And I have that budget set at $1,000 or actually $1,100. I bumped it up just a little bit to get some more traction. Um so once it hits 1,100 it'll stop. Yeah. Yeah. And then you guys can tell me what you want me to do. Just Google Ads. Yes. Y um can we share that to our social media page? I think that that would be like a really good thing look on our page. It's done professionally. So maybe we can figure that out. The video. Yeah, I think it would be post the DDA page. Yep. All right.

Just just to the DDA page. And I did send it. I apologize. I meant send it to all of you, but I don't think I did. But I did send it to the participating businesses so that they could share it through their channels. So, thank you for sharing it, Steve. Um, and it's super easy to add businesses the way we have it set up because it just you get directed to a web page that we can continue to modify. So, if there's other folks that want to get on board there, it's easy to add them on there. And I think you'll like it's important that we get the business feedback, too, because that will that will actually show that it's working. Um, we can see the traffic to the website. So, people are looking at it,

which means they're interested to a point, but like are they participating in the actual savings and visiting those businesses because of it? We'll see. That's the hard part, right? Is just figuring out where they came from. And, you know, in the future, if we do want to, we could set up some kind of like digital passport where we could track that. But Sarah and I discussed it and we kind of wanted to keep it somewhat simple this year. Yeah. So, well, and I think just staying fairly consistent with stuff like this, like if if if this comes up every year, it becomes more known. If you come with like a a different one, you know, in the summer or whatever, people need to be able to look for that and see it. They don't

like one ad, cool. We need to continue to to do this, you know, continue to build things for these businesses. So, digitally, this is our first build and we should be proud of that. What's next? You know, how did those 1,000 people or the 41,000 little fuzzy on that? How did they find this? Is that a YouTube ad? Oh, I know it's YouTube. So, did they like type in Fraser? Up on my Facebook. Great.

So, usually it's like people that are uh in that algorithm. So, if it says ride ski save and it has meta content of ride riding, you know, skiing in whatever Frasier, it'll kind of look up it. It'll know who's coming to Frasier and it'll kind of know like in the surrounding areas to Denver who's interested in skiing. So, it's not going to give it to someone in Florida that's scuba diving. It's going to give it to you. Did it go through Facebook or did it just No, it went through just YouTube. Facebook would be a whole different ad system and Facebook is pretty cool, too. Like they're pretty accurate. That I do have a follow-up question. So, it is just YouTube right now. Right now.

Okay. Cuz like if my mom's on YouTube watching some another thing she got sent to, she it might pull up on hers because she travels to Frraasier a lot. Yes. I think in the meta. Um, so if I pull up YouTube, I might have gotten and if maybe totally And I haven't. And I might pull up YouTube many times. Now that you've set it three, you know,

you're like giving it the exact look. Ride ski save. Yeah. It's going to pull it up. Yeah. It kind of like, you know, everybody knows this happens. You, you know, you search that something once and then it starts showing up in your feed. So maybe you search cross country skiing in Colorado or something like that or ride the train or so in a perfect world then that would get sent to you but you know it doesn't always happen but that's how it works. Good work and getting that done so quickly. Thanks parks too and Connor for doing that. And so Sarah just to clarify the 1,100

that is what is being spent in January or that'll keep okay in January I have I have the spend to go to the end of January and then we can re-evaluate if you're like yeah let's do another thousand for February and see what happens. The numbers are trending up. Guess one of the questions is if we want to go ahead and commit so it keeps running or if we want to let it pause and revisit it the next time we meet when we have more complete I think it's it's never bet good to pause. You're not supposed to pause and add. I think if you pause and add it

it it it loses momentum. So then I would say we either commit or not at this time or we set uh you go to so many impressions like whatever you advertising people know better than I how this works and what makes sense. I think that's right. Right. Am I right about p Are we right about pausing? I don't know anything about it quite honestly. I think if you put enough money towards anything, it'll go pretty far. Meeting is February 10th and then I will talk about the comeup conference if we're actually doing a formal meeting in February 10th or if we're doing that instead. So I just want to make sure we Yeah. have a plan in place so we don't pause it if we shouldn't be pausing.

I think we should commit to February. Agreed. Right. Yeah. Someone make a motion. How much money do we want to commit? Same amount. Wasn't it a,000? A,000. I don't know if thousand is what we need to do every month, but it's good to get a boost on right now. Cuz didn't we talk about two grand originally? 25. I'll make a motion to increase the maximum spend on this video for February to $2,500. Oo. In total. Total. So that would be an additional 1,500. Okay. Yeah, that was pris. Okay. So, that was Greg. And who seconded?

I did. I don't know if I'm allowed to, but after a second. Now, you ask for Yeah. All in favor? I. Great. Cool. All right. Next. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you all. Yeah. And thank you, Parks. And Connor is not here, but uh for pulling that together so quickly. That's awesome. Yeah, that's like he was they were super pressed on that. There was a lot of stress on Josh's end trying to get it trying to get it edited. And has that um ski ride save promotion link page been updated to Google Maps for those businesses? Yeah, there's a little map on there with all the locations. Sweet.

Good job. Is that the one from that Riley Ldon is talking or what? No. Uh she they're talking about the map where you can use your train ticket for Oh, I thought you said it used to link to the business. Ski and ride safe. Not ski ride safe. Yeah. Okay. I got I think Sarah's gonna try to pull that up. Um Oh, darn. How many businesses are on the ski ride? Oh, 11. And that that can be added too as well. And because we made it very general like that video, it's no problem.

It's not like it's shot from every business, which is good.

Um, so it's under explore Frasier. I do find it a little tricky to navigate to if you don't have the link or a QR code or something taking you here, but um and we do have it for Winter Park Express, Amtrak, and Busting, how it works, and then the featured deals. So, like I was saying, if you guys know of any other businesses, it's super easy um for Sarah to jump on here. And then below that is sweet.

It looks good. Yeah,

coffee is pretty good. It's awesome. You gonna go get a train ticket? You're gonna So, I will actually. You know what would be cool is if um with that little bit of extra money we have if you on those little icons next to the business if you could click on it and see a picture of them because don't we have pictures? We can somewhere. Oh, like the actual photos of the business. Yes. So, you could go in there and you could just click on it and have a or a little link. Well, I think the move from that because we it used to be it pull up the business's website,

but like some were Facebook, some were landing pages that didn't even have logos. It's kind of messy. Gotcha. I didn't like if everyone had like something like this where it's like, oh, you know. Yeah. Not that it needs to be consistent, but just communicate what the offering was. And I feel like a lot of the websites didn't do that. So, that's why we switched to the map. Okay. And you can still click on the businesses up here and go to their web page or Facebook page, whatever. They're not add the feature if you click on these. Gotcha. There. Did you build it? Okay. Cool. In there. It's good. Good work.

Yeah. So, all righty. Frasier, go golfing. come up conference stuff. We haven't really gone further on this yet. Um, we need to have a another meeting and we jams. Yeah, I was going to say, is that the playlist? Yeah. Yeah.

Um, we need to have another meeting on this and we need to start making social media posts. Just kind of pick who we're doing first. Um, so maybe that's something we can talk about now since we're here all in person. I'm really excited about the conference by the way. You're volunteering to be the first one or I mean, sure, but whatever. I feel like you're already doing it. So, but I'm really excited to support and help because these the things I've been doing are directly like you know channeling into that that river. So, um I think people are thirsty for it. I think so. Yeah, I think so. A lot of people want to pick brains around here.

Well, I have a list of the questions that we talked about if you want to chat and Yeah, we can get going. Yeah. So, who who wants to be first on this? Or is it four people at once? What are we going to do? Could you give us a little summary real quick? And I apologize. You guys, I think talked about this when I was not here the last time. Um, but is the plan still to feature someone like Abby in an in-person event in February as well as the social media or

So, basically, we were going to do a picture of each person that was going to be there, business owner, entrepreneur, whatever. Um, a date and then their title. And then we were going to do a 30 second video answering a question of what um how they how they got into entrepreneurship here in the valley I believe right Steve is that what we had written. Yep. And you had your criteria. We're going to line people up with some of those different um pathways. Right. Yeah. And then all that leads into the first conference.

Right. And the whole goal of the conference is to encourage new businesses. Yeah, I can pull pull up the mission statement rather than necessarily a new business. It's more about helping convey to people in the community that um they there is a pathway for them to develop their own businesses, their own careers rather than just being subject to the whims of the employment market.

Yeah. So, it's a local wealthb buildinging and network event series. The mission, the come-up conference empowers everyday citizens to build wealth, create opportunities, and strengthen community ties through real stories and practical strategies shared by local voices. We're redefining how a community talks about money and success, replacing limiting language with empowering terms that shift mindsets, inspire ownership, opportunity, and growth.

Love it. So, anything that kind of falls in that and we do have this whole entire um outline and and it can help anybody that's talking like let's say moderators, let's call it um to keep people on track so it doesn't turn into like a bash a developer session or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think the limiting language is a great it's huge. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's a lot of limiting. So, and you had guys had decided that the four originally were going to be off of this board. It was going to be Bill, Addy, Parks, and Tiffany, right? Everybody started a business and they're all a little bit different. Right. Right. Yeah.

So, then I I think the question is, do we want all four people at a round table, you know, because we're going to do a discussion? I think we kind of decided at the roaster. Was that right the first time? Well, I I so my recollection was that um there there were going to be four separate internet posts, right? And then each of those would lead to the four people being one place for a moderated discussion and then to see how many people kind of showed up. So if 10 people showed up, we could do it in town

um at a business rate. If 30 people showed up, we probably couldn't do that. Then we would know the next time we need to do it at somewhere else like the church over here or in this room or wherever. Is there a entrepreneurship class at the local high school or like you know a business class? They have an internship program. I've had several of the interns. I've had a couple as well. Most of them are You could like talk to that teacher and to get the kids to come during class time as like a field trip. I feel like that. That'd be cool. That's Mrs. Malone, right? Yeah, it's Mrs. Malone. I don't know. It's

all the kids. Yeah. I mean, I I do a lot of um most of my camps and educational programs are working with the high school because they get their volunteer credits. Yeah. Yeah. Um so, I could probably talk to her, too. feel like if you offered it like that would be a good field trip kind of thing for them that and they're in school so they'd be dying to do it actually. I wanted to clarify something that you were just mentioning about is it one person that is going to draw 10 people or is it the four people at the same time that are going to draw the audience? It's it's four people at the same time. It's probably going to end up being more than 10, but Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It depends on

it depends on time of day, right? Like if we're doing it at 8:00 a.m. at the coffee shop, then it's probably going to be people can make it there before work and it's packed. But also take in mind if you're going to do the high school, it's only Monday and Wednesday that those kids have two hours. Okay? And they also have to be able to make it from class all the way to wherever this is and back. Friday. Yeah. If you really want the high school kids. Yeah. optional field trip in school. You can do it Monday and Wednesday and it will be that whole class can be there but we would have to do it closer to Graanby. But do you think more would come if it they're not in the school?

Yeah. High school not in school. Well, well and I would say ideally we do it within the DDA boundaries, right? Uh yeah, ideally. Yeah. Whether or not the high school students participate is a um secondary issue to the overall idea that Parks has come up with. Yeah.

So once we settle on doing it, then we can figure out if and how we engage with the high school. This is more so for like the I would love to have them, but I think it's more so for like adults that feel like they're stuck in a nineto-five and that they're never going anywhere here and that they'll never be able to afford anything and they're they're limited by their language, their mindset, and their job, you know, in their minds. I'm going to interject. So, like I'm directly dealing with that feedback right now and I couldn't sleep last night because most people that are wanting to come and hang out with me for free and I'm buying their coffees at your stuff. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um they're like I can't come because I'm at work children. What time are you doing it?

Yeah. um between like they can't be there 9 to5 like I'm I'm doing my coffee chats either 9 to Can we do it or 7:30 a.m. 7:30 to 9:00. Yeah. I mean they're they're at the daycare. A lot of the people that are wanting to join my conversations are caretakers which tend to not get a full experience of life in Grand County. I don't know how to put that. Um, I want them to follow their dreams. I also want daycare workers workers just yet. 5 p.m. So, I I you know, I'm leaning in. What about 5:00 p.m.? 5:30. Yep. 5

5:30 to 7 to 7 seems to be about the time that you could probably get people to ask off work. Um, you know, switch their shift, get off early, right? I mean, I mean, you're always going to miss somebody. You could you could rotate. You could do a morning one one month and then the next month do it in the evening so that you're getting the morning workers because you're going to miss out on that whole you're going to miss out on like the people working at Hernando's or like you might miss I mean this is six sessions in you might just keep doing it that's what I was going to say you know you talking about as series would it be better to split things up and maybe do multiple shorter events

yeah or we could do two business owners in the morning two business owners in the evening. Yeah. And then if you can't make it, that's on you. Yeah. I mean, I I go with that philosophy, but after six sessions of what I'm offering, people are like, I need I want to get there. I'm like, all right, I'll do an evening one. You know, booze or no booze, whatever. But I feel like um if your target is the 9 to5 that can't get out of the wheel, you have to lean into what what they're available for. Do we want to do two split sessions or one to start? I'm gonna lean into you for that. Lean on two. Do you want all four people at the two sessions or do you want to do two business owners and two business owners?

I think two and two would be more. Yeah, there be plenty to talk about. I mean, you could do individual and you could have more set up. Yeah. Right away. I think as long as the facilitator has more facilitating, I think it would be easy to have a conversation, you know, like I said, keep it short and sweet and see how people show up. I was just thinking it might might be better to do four, have four scheduled, right, for four months, and be able to focus on it and have it be a single person, single person short and sweet. Right. Right. Okay. So, the only thing that we thought about is that you have different perspectives and that it's more of a panel discussion. So, if these are your three business owners and I have a question, they're each going to have a different answer which helps you a lot. Yeah.

I think having four and you're like you're going to focus in different areas, right? Set it up one once a month and then the fifth month have the panel discussion. You could do that too. That's the idea. That's bringing us right back. You've been really quiet over there. Hey, so where were you? What was your original decision? I mean, it was that we were going to do a social media post for each individual and then there was going to be a panel discussion. If you want to have a discussion with each individual leading up to that,

I didn't take it that way, but I'm totally cool with that. No, I I do think that it's important to articulate the logic behind why we chose to have the first four interactions online, which is to build followership, to build interest before you try and pull people physically into a session. Yeah. So, I I I still think that's really good logic. Yeah. Um and if we do those four and then split them into two groups of two, one in the evening, one in the morning, that makes tons of sense to me and is still consistent with what you want. I mean, I still like the panel thing because I might have a totally different opinion than like Nick opening up a brewery. Yeah. It's less pressure. Yeah. Single person. Give me your answers and tips. You're like, "Okay." You know,

there's going to be some people who are interested in opening an establishment. There going to be some people interested in in in a service business. There going to be some people interested in in a consulting business or mindset even or mindset. Yeah. Mindset literally. Yeah. Or they're before all of that. Yeah. Okay. So, who are the four? I think the panel is it's Bill, Tiff, me, Abby to start. Correct. Okay. So, we need to get what dates we're going to post those. We'll just talk to you because if we do it here, it's going to take the whole time. Yeah. So, I think we'll just each individual will talk to you. We'll get a post up if you have for the next four specific questions other than the ones that we talked about. I mean, I can send those to everybody and they can respond.

So, it's one post a week essentially. Got it. All right. I would recommend if you're doing two sessions that you stagger them and then if people can make it to both or work their schedule around, great. Versus trying to do two in one day and just being realistic of everybody's time. Yeah, sure. Um if you stagger them too, maybe some of the same people can come if you're available. Um or we could expand it. I don't know if Yeah. Nick or someone from Barry's family wanted to participate and do three and three. Um

I think it's fine. And I think it works that you guys figure out the time so we don't have to spend the whole meeting doing that. I do want to confirm though, are we looking to do this still in February in place of a DDA meeting at this time? I love that idea. I think I think it'd be better if more people came and yeah, I think don't have a ton to talk about every day. Yeah, I was just wondering is there anything pressing? No, I think that's totally fine. I just want everybody to be able to plan for that um so we can and establish that and then once we get time selected for this sooner versus later to let everybody know so they can help promote it.

Yeah. Can it just be on when the meeting would have been? Well, there's we can do one of them at that point, but to your idea we need one after. Well, I'm gonna really say that I have not offered an evening session because I don't want to do one. So, I don't mind doing the evening, but you could do this. Just my professional opinion, do it where you want it to be. If it's in the morning, that's fine. And then it can continue to grow. I I think it's best to be consistent with what works for whoever is going to be at the conference. one session. We'll just do one in place of the DDA meeting at a local business, four people and then we'll go into the two and two or something in the next time. Yeah. As it grows and gets momentum. Sure. Okay.

And then let's do that evening. I agree. Yeah. Right. Cool. Yeah. Perfect. Do you want to stick with nine or does it make sense to move it up to better accommodate people going I think and I'm posing this as I think 8 a.m. Yeah. 8 a.m. I have to get up at 8 to be here. Yeah. I mean, I feel like kickstarting it at 9:00 might be better. Free coffee starting at 8 and then Yeah. Yeah. Meet and gather and then so 8 to 10.

Just real quick, I thought, do I have anything to offer this and our business is so capital intensive? Probably not applicable. But what would be applicable is somebody who uh was a cook at a restaurant, started a catering business. Yeah. has very low capital and I note something for future reference. Yeah. So we we just want to keep people in mind for the next one. Yes. We'll do this one and then we'll highlight somebody like that

and Barry um that's great spot on for this first round. Yeah. But we also talked about that there is a segment as you well know of our community who is at the other end of their life who are um people who have been part-time ears here who have moved here full-time who are moving from one career to another you me I can think of a dozen other people um and that there might be a second or third wave that we do on this um and it could actually pretty resonate with a number of folks 100%. Yeah. So, do we need to move that sign? I know. And if I did it, I'm not sure people would want to do it.

A lot of my clients are like in their 60s, 65. Their kids are out the door downstairs, and they're like, "What do you wavering, haven't talked to?" I will get a drink. Do we need to make a motion to move forward with this or just kind of move forward with it? Yeah, I don't think so. All right. Where is this happening? Business enhancement grant review committee and process. Do it. We can do it at your place, right? Sure. Yeah, we'll do it at my place to start. That's fine.

All right. So, once again, the applications are open for the business enhancement grant. Priority deadline is uh February 1st. I know we do have at least one large ask in the pot, so there is the possibility that all money be used up this time around. There's also a possibility that there's money left over and we'd continue to accept rolling applications. Um, but please, please, please, if you know of any businesses that are interested in ADA improvements, exterior facade improvements, um, encourage them to apply. Feel free to send them my way with questions. Um, I think it's pretty easy to find on our website if you just go um I myself tend to just put in business enhancement grants and pull it up um from the search bar. Uh but the other ask here is wanting to see if we have potentially two members of the board that would be interested in serving on the grant review committee as we did last year. So last year it was Bill and Lorie Hannon.

Okay, great. Abby, I might do it again unless someone else wants to. I I'm happy to do it in the future, but this year I'm going to be applying on behalf of Arts, so I I think I should not. I'm happy to do it if no one else wants to. All right, Greg and Bill, you want to duke it out? Oh, I thought it was both of us.

All right. I thought he Okay. So, raise your hand if you want to be on it. Thank you. All right. Great. And I will just share real quick um the web page.

Did um if people got awarded last year and didn't use it, did they get rolled over? They got to reapply. So they had to formally request rolling it over and we actually had a number of businesses make that request. That's honestly probably one of the reasons that our board of trustees wanted to move up the deadline is really trying to get people to use the grant money the year they apply and recognizing that it can be quite challenging up here to line up a contractor and you know if not early in the game you're probably getting booted to next year. So, um, the bakery rolled over their money. The distillery rolled over their money.

If I just comment real quick, it it is so difficult, indescribable. I gave up on who was going to do before. I've had another contractor who's a customer. Send him all the information and he hasn't even responded. Everybody's just so busy for big stuff. Yeah. Mine's pretty big for everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My project. I mean, because people because they don't get they basically get refunded, right? Yes. And it has to be 100% to read about this. Generally, yes. Yeah, that's tough.

Yeah. I mean, we can work with special circumstances. Um, you know, we had one project that's mostly done, but a piece got delayed. So, we're looking at if we can go ahead and reimburse them for that and let the second piece roll over. Um, Antinette has volunteered to step in and help kind of administer it because I will admit that I was not most timely in following up. Um, but a lot of people got contracts, didn't sign them. It was multiple times following up, didn't spend the money. So, it's just something that doesn't need to be a lot of work for staff ends up being fairly timeconuming just with that followup.

Um, so we're continuing to try to just kind of tighten it up a bit. Um, we want to be flexible where we can and recognize that, you know, everybody's busy, everyone's got a lot of pressing things going on, but just trying to streamline it so it's not a huge time suck on our end. um in terms of administering it. But yeah, we had a number of projects that are rolling it over. That said, that's people that I'm not expecting to come back to the pot because they haven't closed out their last grants. Um but I know Frerier Valley Arts is thinking about an application. Um the one application that we've received is for the post office building and replacing all of that sighting.

Oh, wonderful. Um, so I think we do have a couple larger asks, whereas last year we got a lot of ask, but um, I think the distillery was the largest ask. The other ones were a lot of them remained pretty modest. Um, the beer company is still working on doing a ramp, so there's rolled over. And then Tim Kepki, who has the building across from the Shell Station, um, he applied but did not get to his project. So he's supposed to be painting and doing some work on the sighting on that building this summer. So, more projects than not rolled over. Sorry. It's just for everybody's edification, uh, ours is sort of related to the post office and that the Hilly Hooker sign that's there,

um, the owner of that building is willing to let us replace it with the Frasier Valley Arts coming events sign that would also broadcast Town of Frasier events. So, um, it would make something look nicer, um, but also then help draw people community. Great. Um, it's a slippery slope with how much you're helping the businesses in the grant process, right? Is anybody I know. Well, I mean, like, you don't want to get into their books and be like, "What are you doing?" Or you don't want to look at their their project that they're investing in too far. It's just the exterior,

right? But I'm just wondering, is there a third party that can assist with moving the project along? Why? I think it's up to them. They don't get the money unless they are doing it. So, and all they ask for is financial statements for the last two years. Um, which is pretty non-invasive. I see what you're saying, but but you know what I mean. Like I do. Yeah. Like how do they I don't they're I mean they're all wanting to increase the exterior. Like they're wanting to enhance the town. They're having trouble doing it. I mean to me that's like an immediate problem regardless of whose money they're using. You know what I mean? Well, I think it some of that takes time. Look, it took two months to get a plumber, right? I mean, it

Do we have like a pool of thumb contractors that we there's like again, it's not up, but I mean if you're the money, do the project and you're getting free grand money, it's like they got to do it. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And there's been good people who like people have done it and pulled it off and it looks good, you know, and there's plenty of good examples that are getting done. So, and if you take berries for us, it's more of a try to clean it up and then the board will figure it out. It makes it easier. Not having an awning was blight, right?

Then it would be done faster. But his business is running, succeeding, and looks good already. Yeah. So, it would be nice to have it, but it's not 100% pertinent right now, right? A lot of a lot of these situations are like that. Like the people that did their sighting, that was pretty pertinent that that happens, so they got it done. Most of this stuff is being asking for grants on stuff that would be cool if it was done, but it's not it's not like an ADA ramp has to be there right now. That's going to get done. Yeah. You know.

Yeah. So, Black Tai, um, they did a nice job with their sighting. They've kept one side without sighting, so they're looking to put a mural on that next year, um, which I think will be cool. Camber, I think, did a great job with um, all of their sighting and awning. It looks good. Was one of those ones that made it happen. Yeah. But still working on an ADA Ram. Um, uh, Colorado Corn Dog and Burger Company. Um, they right away got their wrap up on their mobile truck and it's been back there. I think that looks great. Um,

yeah, but they they got on that right away. Um, so I think it's, you know, a continual work in progress, but I think we got some great results and we're just going to kind of tighten up some of the administration and try to do our best to get projects to happen the year they applied for, understanding that, you know, sometimes it just doesn't happen 100%. So well thanks be okay any anything else we got on that subject or

so Bill and Abby if we could talk about timing afterwards we are looking to review those the first week of February if we can um that said if we're not doing a formal February meeting we probably will not be bringing them in front of this whole group like we did last year which I think is fine um it's still a town of Frasier grant program so we'll have Bill and Abby weigh in as committee members and then we'll present it to the town board um I believe the second week in February and then we can just give a quick recap to this group.

Moving on to work plan and review.

Yeah. So I did want to just take a little bit of time and kind of touch base on the work plan. that this was developed um by errors alongside the plan of development. Um and we have sent some items, but just want to kind of touch base as we're looking at this year at items that we did complete and then areas that we would like to prioritize. If there's things on here that we still feel like we don't really need to do at this time, I think that's fine. We can make a mark of that. and if there's things we want to add on and then maybe when we meet in March we can kind of more fully see how the conference has gone look at how that's moving forward um and then kind of try to prioritize what we want to move forward with for the rest of the year if that makes sense. So um as a reminder the plan of development um is available on our DDA web page. Um so I think that is great just to reference from time to time. Maybe we can pull that back out again in March. By March, I believe the town of Frasier comprehensive plan should be fully adopted. Does that sound right? So, I think that'll be great to kind of look at side by side kind of in terms of where there's overlap and if that helps shape the DDA board's priorities. Um, the other plan that we've kind of been waiting for um is the wayfinding plan. Um, we that was presented this past year in terms of kind of a general um overlook. There's been some delays in moving that forward in that that's a joint project between Frasier Winter

Park and Winter Park Resort that the chamber has spearheaded and Winter Park their town manager um moved on to another position late last year. He left in September and their new town manager just started yesterday. Um that's John Peacock who was hope I'm getting this right the county manager for Pikkin County. Um, so he's got a ton of experience. I think everyone's really excited to have him in that position, but that kind of gap there just kind of meant that some of the joint efforts between Frasier and Winter Park were were put on hold until he could get here and get up to speed. There is some money in the budget, I believe, for both the town of Frasier and the town of Winter Park to move to the next stages of design for that wayfinding this year. So once that's kind of established, um there may be some opportunities for the DDA to jump in there and maybe pick up pieces of that that the DVD would like to sponsor and help move forward sooner versus later because I know signage has been a topic of a conversation. So we can look at that as we go through kind of the plan, but did just want to uh mention those kind of two ongoing plans that have been a hot topic of discussion for this group as we've looked at other items in our plan. So with that, I'm going to go ahead and throw up the core strategies from

Yes, I will. So you have a print out in front of you as well of the core strategies that are taken from our plan of development. Um so as you all know but as a reminder anything that the DDA works on or spends money on has to be identified in our plan of development. Um, for that reason, we try to use the plan of development as kind of a visionary document to provide some direction, but also to keep it pretty broad and high level. Um, so that as we really get into more into the weeds of things and as time goes on, um, there's a good amount of flexibility. But the kind of core strategy areas and buckets that the plan was broken into was where business spirit and creativity are intertwined. So unlocking the vibrancy of downtown Frasier by fostering the arts, supporting locally owned businesses and preserving the unique mountain charm that defines our community. Um so really kind of support of local businesses where mountain dreams are within our means. So expanding and diversifying local housing options to make Frasier the perfect place to call home for those seeking community, nature, art, and adventure. Keeping Frraasier affordable and accessible will maintain a prosperous, diverse, and eclectic community. Um, so again, no small uh feat or challenge in a mountain resort community in this day and age in Colorado where the river flows through nature's heart. Um, so enhancing access to the Frasier River, preserving and sustaining environmental resources, and leveraging Frasier's natural beauty and charm to create distinctive experiences in downtown Frasier, where every journey is connected, improving connectivity and encouraging

multimodal transportation across the downtown area by supporting infrastructure that optimizes parking and promotes walking, biking, and alternative options. Um, I will throw in here just as an update, um, this was kind of alluded to previously, but the town did close on the old veterinarian clinic building right across from the Amtrak station last Friday. So, the town does now own that building with the intention of turning it into a multimotal transit hub. Um definitely with the focus on increased mountain rail and Amtrak passengers, but also the lift stops there and busing stops there coming up from the front range. Um so I think as that gets kind of further fleshed out and plans are developed, there's a lot of great potential for the DDA to weigh in and potentially um have some projects or investment kind of focused around that hub and just that general area.

Is Amtrak going to switch over there? That's the idea. We have nothing set in stone, but I know they have been frustrated with their current station and the inability to move forward with some improvements and wanting was a great move. Something a little nicer. Yeah. So, we're in conversations with Amtrak about what that looks like. We had to do some work to get it up to ADA compliance.

Um, the board of trustees toured it as part of a workshop before last week's board meeting. Um, so yeah, there's still a lot of unknowns. It kind of the opportunity presented itself. Amtrak was voicing frustrations with their situation. So, the time kind of jumped on that opportunity, but still a time to flush out moving forward. Um, the DDA will now lose that increment from that building um because it has gone to tax exempt as a town owned property. But I think what it brings to the area will make up for that

definitely long term. Totally. So, Um, and then where the soul of Frasier thrives, be the heart of Frasier, a source of pride for the community, enhance the quality of life, incorporate dynamic public spaces and developments that can be used for gatherings and events, and promote public events and happenings. So, these are the different areas that are meant to inform the work plan. you have a print out. There's also a link to this. Um, and again, I don't want to spend too much time on any of this today. The hope is just to kind of review some of the items that we have done. um if there's certain things that jump out that we would like to prioritize and then in our next session kind of dive more into planning for the rest of the year and kind of just building out what what we hope to to work on. Um any questions or immediate thoughts before we jump in? I apologize. Um, it's hard to see on a screen and small print on a print out, but you should all have

the link to this as well to the PDF version if you do have a screen and it's easier to kind of pull up in front of yourself or just for future reference. I think it'd be great, like you said, to see what the comprehensive plan is and how this would connect and then re-evaluate once we have that. Yeah, like we talked about, even if we're skipping next month. So to send this home with everybody, have people go through it, what what we've accomplished, what I'd like to see added. Yeah, I think it would be Yeah. Have to sign everyone up for homework, but when the comprehensive plan, is is there much that's going to change or that's different than anything else we've seen or is it pretty?

No. Um, so we I believe I sent you guys the link to the full plan and they were looking for comments from the public. We don't anticipate much changing. Um, from what was initially, remind me how this worked. It went to the planning commission.

I should know. It goes to the planning commission. That may or may not have. Katie, are you on the planning commission? Yes. Did it go to the planning commission? Not yet. Not yet. Okay. I think probably our next meeting it goes to the planning commission this month. Thank you. I should verify these things before speaking public meetings about them. You're amazing. Um and then it will go to the town board. Um but I believe that yes, it will be adopted before there's one more public meeting on it. Isn't that Yes. Correct. Yeah. Was there in March? Survey response. This is our plan.

There is a public hearing on the comp plan at the um planning commission this month and then it will go to the board after that. Planning commission in March. Did you say no? This month. This month. Okay. This month. This month. Public hearing for the plan to the board. Yeah. At the next meeting. And you and anyone else from the public is obviously welcome to attend that if you want to like dive deeper in or provide feedback. Um and then there's also that opportunity when it goes to the board of trustees after it's gone through planning commission um for the public to weigh in. But yeah, the draft that's out there now, we don't anticipate major changes based on the feedback we've gotten.

Is there like one spot where all the any public comments are kept? That is a good question. Um I know the consulting company that we are working with collected them and have provided them to town staff. I don't know if it's publicly. Gotcha. I just that would just be something else that if there was something in there that it's like it wouldn't fit here, but that we could take into account. Oh, that Okay, that's where I was going with that. Yeah, I could definitely look through that. Um, and I believe could provide it. I'll I'll check in with our planning department about that.

Yeah, make a note. Yeah, specifically if it was something that kind of tied to better with the DDA vision and Yeah, I just think we've done a good job of seeing where we can we can do things that might be harder for other organizations.

Yeah. Well, and I think a great example of that um is the fact that I know some developers have faced frustrations in what incentives the town can legally provide. If they're the ones doing the develop commercial development that the town is asking for, we have more flexibility with incentives for the actual businesses themselves. As a town, um that it falls under statutory uh we are not home rule statutory rule. Um, but the DDA can offer more incentives to a private developer than the town can. So, that would just be an example of where the TDA has more play than the town itself does. That's a pretty big one. Yeah.

Yeah.

All right. So, on that note, we do have a finance and investment policy um that we worked with Troy Bernberg and developed and adopted the beginning of last quarter, sorry, the beginning of last year. So, that was something that we adopted the first quarter of last year. Um, that was meant to kind of be ready in the go for when people approached us and to provide some guidelines for what that looked like. Um, we haven't really had the opportunity to put it to use too much, but that is something that I think we want to continue to evaluate and look at um, probably on an annual basis as things develop to see if there's any changes we want to make. So that is meant to be a working document versus something that's more fixed like our plan of development. Um so maybe we tentatively put that down to revisit just kind of in the fourth quarter of this year if need be. Um unless somebody would thinks we should revisit that sooner this year. I've lost you. Which one do you want? Uh the finance and investment policy which is right all the way at the bottom.

Are you I mean I know my mind kind of went to mesh on the grant enhancement. We're just looking at that and I have hometown not the DDA. And then we have did we decide on a what like our checklist of the businesses or in oncoming um or like new projects so we know which ones are a priority. Does the DDA know how to follow that?

This document lays out some basic kind of guidelines and metrics for evaluating a business or developer that would potentially ask for economic incentives. Um, so if it'd be helpful, we could bring that up and just kind of revisit it as a refresher for the group. Do we have anything to decide on though? I say I think it depends on how we prioritize this stuff. In the year, so yeah, I think next year we're probably going to have some of that, right? Yeah, we're not we don't have any of that right now to look at. No.

Okay. Yeah, there's definitely some potential projects out there that I anticipate at some point. I would imagine um approaching the DDA in terms of packages for for development um but we have not yet been approached because so it seems like if that's the case we should develop a process for what information those developers or other entities should bring to us and that is basically what that finance and investment policy that was developed last year is we have that for the town you say we have that for the DDA Okay. And we use that for each person. So there's not like a, oh, well, you, you know, didn't do this with them and they did it with us. And

so this is an item that we have checked off this list that we can revisit as needed. Um, and maybe it's best just to keep moving through this as our accomplished item that will be revisited as needed. Love it.

All right. Great. Um, event support coordination policy. Um, we did talk about this some last year. I think it was determined that the DDA was not looking to take on major event planning. That said, we are now engaging in this conference series um as kind of I would guess I would consider them mini events. Um and I think everybody has been pretty supportive of that. I think the other question here would be if we want to look at developing a sponsorship policy for events. And this question did come up. We talked about this a little bit at the end of last year in that the Winter Park Film Festival approached the town board with a request and one of our trustees said, "We've developed the DDA for this purpose. Why aren't you asking the DDA?" I would say the DDA was not developed specifically for this purpose, but in terms of kind of activating downtown and supporting activation and businesses downtown, it is within our goals to have some support of events if that is something that we want to look at developing a policy for.

But it's takes place outside of our boundary. I would propose that if we develop a policy, the policy would look at things like that. Um, but instead of having a oneoff we will give or we won't give, that we actually develop a policy that sets the metric. He could real of worms. Well, he he was worried about the fact that there was events within like all of our after events were here in town. We can spot that. But I don't I said that's not what the DDA is for, right?

And then I brought up the town code and the in the town code that they had or their work plan or whatever that they had it specific specifically for supporting offseason events and that's what it falls under. He was just putting us in the wrong bucket. That's all. We decide what the buckets look like. Is that what we're trying to do as a detail? And again, this is Yeah, but this is that's that event is not in this bucket at all. Put aside the specific event. But when I think about the economic impact that some of the you we have a handful of events now in this community like Federal Festival, Fire and Ice,

they drive a ton of economic opportunity for our local establishments. They enhance the community and they result in sales of tax revenue. Um, all of that seems squarely in our mission. Yes. Um, so having a policy to help foster and promote those events makes tons of sense to me.

And I mean, I'm putting on Migra Ball 2027 because I'm having an issue finding a venue that can meet some of my requests and handle the bandwidth of 200 plus people. Um, because it's going to bring Denver and I can't find anywhere else. I'm a wedding planner and I'm all the way out in, you know, sun outdoors, which great, but I, you know, being on the DD, I'd rather that be here eventually. Yeah. Um, boy, have I got a place for you. I know. I was just we got here. I mean, and that's where in my creative mind, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I'm spiraling." But, you know, um, it does bring a lot of money. Yeah.

And if we can support them and have a checklist, I'm all about it. Great. All right. So, are we in agreement that it would make sense to develop a policy to review such requests in what event? All right, perfect. Thank you.

All right, moving right along. Property acquisition policy. Um, I think this was another thing that we kind of talked about looking at in conjunction with the town comprehensive plan and whether or not this was something that the DDA wanted to take on in the future when we are a little bit more established and potentially in a position to acquire property if it made sense to do so. I think that's a seriously future item. Our board's not going to deal with that. So, let's move on. All right. Maybe for 95 maybe 10

10 for sure. We don't even have the real estate for that. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Um economic development policy is just kind of the question of we have this particular kind of incentive guiding document if we need a larger policy above it. Um, I think we can circle back to this as well as we're kind of looking at the town comprehensive plan and where these things line up. Um, but I would say maybe just something to keep in the back of your mind right now. If we do feel that beyond the plan of development, we need something kind of more bulleted or broken down in terms of what that looks like to guide our actual actions and what we might do in terms of what the DDA would support and feeling like it is speeding economic development. Okay.

Um, but I think that could maybe be added as an overarching piece to that investment policy if that's something that makes sense. Hang on as we flush it out. Okay. Downtown Riverwalk vision. Um, creating a scope of work and budget to develop a preliminary concept plan for the proposed Riverwalk district. So, AIRS had this in here. Um, this was something that was actually scoped out as part of our work with pushing Terrell for the town comprehensive plan. So, this is something doing this. Yes. Right. That's Yeah. Yeah.

So, I'm going to say the DDA weighed in on that plan over this past year and that will be part of that finalized town comprehensive plan that's put out. Once we look at that, if we feel there's a need to go any further with this, I think we can, but it was it was already in motion. Okay. Yep. Community facilities and spaces, assessing downtown infrastructure needs, um facade improvements and public space enhancements and drainage and sidewalk improvements.

So, I know last year we had Paul Johnson, our public works director, come and kind of talk us about some of the challenges of improving things like sidewalks and drainage. um they are working on some storm water management that hopefully helps a little bit with this but um as I recall his key takeaway was unfortunately or fortunately just the environment that we live in it is a difficult ch ongoing challenge to manage. Um does the DDA want to dive any further into any of these at this time? We did look as well in terms of the grant program. Um the discussion last year was right now the town has a budget for this. The DDA doesn't really. Um I think this is something that will likely come up again with our trustees in the future because it was brought up that maybe this is something that the DDA take on when they have a little more capital to work with um in terms of taking on that program. Um, I think the group though last year looked at the grants that came in and that were funded and didn't really see any need to offer any supplemental funding that what the town was offering had kind of covered most of the needs that were in line with the DDA's plan of development and finance document. I

mean, you guys increased the sidewalk stuff over um I don't know where it is by the elementary school. We put it Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. Yeah. Um, yeah, the one that and I had talked with Paul about this and it's like they had to move it, but the going down Frasier a past the birdie lounge that access to the Frasier River by where the um art center is going to be between the art center and our new little bakery. that zone if there's some money that's not there to help improve that access down to the Frasier River Trail. Um,

I think would be something that we could throw some money out. I tried to get Paul and them on board with it. So, that new streetscape plan that's happening next year, there's five feet to the north side of the Frasier Avenue connection. It's just no plan. And I think they were thinking like, you know, eventually they acquire that property or you guys maybe acquire one of them and then come up with something. But there is and I pushed for this and we couldn't do it for the bakery because I wanted it in now was that's what I didn't know.

So the the new the new 8 and 1/2t sidewalks are essentially two 4 foot and a quarter sections where the control joint is. So we could add half of an eight and a half foot sidewalk on the north side and connect it with the eight and a half foot sidewalk we have from Birdie Lounge to go all the way down to the river. And so that sidewalk section it's probably 200 feet the town's sidewalks are expensive. Um but it's probably to the tune of like 35 grand to do that section of actually no because it's four and a half ft. It's probably like 20 grand. 20 20 to 25 grand to do that sidewalk.

That would be a great connectivity piece that maybe we could help out with or figure out a deal. Um that would be nice because that would be really nice to have before the art center goes in. I don't think it would change really with the art center going in. At least um if it does it'll a couple blocks of it, right? So, I think that would be a really good connectivity piece because the sidewalk that's going to go on the south side of Frasier Avenue around the Alves property is not yet agreed to, right, with Mr. Alves. And if we're going to do all the streetscape and then have another 300 400 linear foot section with no sidewalk, it's

kind of pointless. So, if we can get that little north piece done, we'll for sure have the whole east side of Clayton and the north connection to Frasier A and then the connection to the trail connection to the to Highway 40. So, just to clarify the section we're talking about here on this map. Yeah. So, sidewalks just went in. Okay. I don't You guys can see the arrow right here, correct? Yeah. And then this is home of the Future Art Center. Yeah. and work right where your cursor was. If you if you put it back up to the in between where the town home and the art center will be so that just to the south of the art center just before you get to Greg and Kevin's town home. Yeah.

In all of our designs, we've collaborated with them to keep a walkway available so people will be able to go from Clayton Court to the trail and back and forth. And that's where the sidewalk I'm talking about on the north side of Clayton Court where it runs east to west just south of 404 Doc Suzie. Okay. That's the sidewalk I'm talking about. Yeah. Me too. So here. Yeah. Right along there. Yeah. So So it wouldn't connect with the Bur Lounge one because that's further to the north.

Yeah. So So basically the the streetscape plan from the town. Yes. The only thing going on our property there is basically a north south sidewalk that extends from the east west sidewalks along Birdie Lounge into Frasier Avenue to a crosswalk to the southern sidewalk on Clayton Court that wraps around the south edge of Clayton Court and then the west edge of Clayton Court's not going well this negotiation. So Greg, you're saying there'll be a sidewalk on Clayton Court, which is mud right now. Yeah. Yes. On the north side by

That's what I want to propose. That's what I proposed and it was just too much too quick. But see eventually there'll be one on the north side and south. There's no plan right now. Okay. So right now the only thing in the plan is the south side and that's the only land owner that hasn't agreed to let that happen. So the town's going to spend a million bucks next year to put all this streetscape in. And I mean there's there's a good chance that there's no sidewalk the entire perimeter of that JNL excavating site. Okay. And so what I'm saying is we're going to do all this work. We could at least have a full Clayton Court pedestrian connection. If we add that 4 and a/4 foot half sidewalk on the portion of land the town currently owns south of 404.6.

Okay. And you're saying that would cost 20 to 25 grand? I think so. Would it go the east? It would go all the way to the east to run into the bakery sidewalk that we poured a few months ago. So it would bakery's on the south side. The bakery is on the east side of Clayport. What? Well, really you need like a laser. Right. Can I ask a question? I'll visualize this. How much distance is there from the north end of your town? Oh, good.

Yay. Greg, how much distance is there from the north edge of your townhouse to the southern edge of the arts set up? So, where are they coming? So, I think the closest is like 18 on the property lines, but from the town homes, I think it's more like 2530. So, the art center is right here. Yes. And my town homes, the first bit is the bakery. Where the town homes are right here. Yes. I want to say there's like 30 35 feet. Oh, that's a lot. Yeah. And so I think it squeezes down to 18 on the side of the bakery or 20 or 18 there. But that's like the narrowest point in the But that's still a lot. Yeah. Still a lot.

So you're But this sidewalk, so right now the town has plans to do all the streetscape on Court, an 8 and 1/2t sidewalk all the way down on this side, and then an eight and a half foot sidewalk starting here all the way down on this side. But there's no plan right now. anything on the north side of the street here. Is there south side by 400? Yes. Yeah. So, eight and a half foot sidewalk that wraps here, but this property owner hasn't agreed to that agreement to give his land up. The town is negotiating with him, but that work's going to supposed to start April May as soon as possible.

Um, and it didn't go quick with anyone else. So the fi the town has five feet to the north of the street they're planning to put in right here that is not designed owned by the town and ready to go if we wanted to put in half a sidewalk there and then that would create h you know four a four and a half sidewalk to an eight and a half foot sidewalk all the way down guaranteed for next year which would be huge for that bakery. Yes. And then this sidewalk gets extended here. So you can come here, cross, or come here, cross, and just have pedestrian access to the river. So I think that would be a great Oh, absolutely.

pedestrian connection to whether we support it or the town I think the town would probably support it, too. I wonder if I wonder if the bank bakery would also pitch in a little bit. I think that they we need to do whatever we can for them because they didn't open time and they're not they're just like I don't think they're gonna have money to do it before they open or you know opening and yeah and if people can't walk they're not going to walk there in the mud. Well okay you know I do every day there's other coffee shops that aren't a muddy track. So needless to say, I'm really passionate getting that in too. And I ran into some roadblocks also. Yeah.

But Greg saw that putting on the north side. So there'll still be mud once. Well, no, but the north side. So they'll still be able to it'll bring it in. There'll be barely a crossing once you get down there. But the good thing is is the sun shines on it. I think that would be a great DDA. Like our first like that would be huge for the DDA. Well, the town's already got land. I mean, that's like something that you could cut a ribbon for. We We should get to the river. Yeah. Yeah. I hate walking on that. Yeah. It's like thinks we'll put in a million bucks on Clayton Court and you'll get to Frasier Avenue. Yeah. Right.

That's kind of been our vibe. We'll just put a sign there that says you can sign. All right, let me I will as a first step talk to Paul Johnson, our public works director, and see if this is at all feasible in terms of what the town would allow the DDA to do. And Greg, I'll circle back with you. Yeah, just got to redesign the drainage. We have like 30k in the budget or something, right? That's I was just trying to look it. I'm just wondering if we can move forward on this this summer or not

because if so, it needs to be a priority back to the March meeting, but I will mark it as a priority to explore this in our work plan. You go back all the way to the river trail. Sure. So no, this would just because that's on Steve's property. So this would go basically on the town's property all the way Steve's property until it ran into mine. The green area, Steve's design for the art center will have that connection to the river. And that would be, in my opinion, a great opportunity to come to the DDA, say, "Hey, we'll build this sick path." Yeah. Especially because I have this super cool neon moving river display in mind for on the wall along this path. Yeah. Yeah. So like something like that would be like a private developer

like that proposal. I can see it Jackson. Yeah. Super cool. Was going to be on the town owned right away. Yeah. Where are we at with money on that? 40,000 sidewalk report. 40 grand for this year and we had 35,000 rolled over from last year. So we do have money to spend on that. Uh especially if it's only going to be like 25 grand or so. Um That would be a portion of that, but that's something we want to do. So, we probably need to make a motion to put that.

No, I think that it's already listed as priority one. I will make a mark that this is a first priority for first quarter of this year and we'll start with the town um and see what I can figure out before our March meeting. That's exciting. It's like a real project. Let's go. All right. Here we are. I just know they'll have to redesign the drainage on the north end just to go under a sidewalk instead of just into that ditch. Okay. There's probably like just given how long it takes to make design changes like a month of design changes with um who's the civil on the town project? Merrick. Merrick.

Um just to make sure they they have the sidewalk. It's quick. Like it's it's a couple hours of work, but just the back and forth. So, does the the road swings around down Clayton Court, right? And then it'll be like a parking lot and then the on the other side like directly across from Clayton Court because it's an entry point to the art center, right? Like if you follow the green line around to the left up there like down. So there's your sidewalk straight and then to the left is your art center. Is there a crosswalk there over? Is that where it's going to go? So that the crosswalk design crosswalk here. Yeah.

And then it's 8 and 1/2t sidewalk here, the crosswalk here, 8 and 1/2t sidewalk here, 8 and 1/2t sidewalk here, and then one or two in the middle. And then the art center is developing from here over this whole that's going to be a sidewalk there. Right. So if we put one here, you're going to be able to straight through. Yeah. So this sidewalk all the way this sidewalk will come like just north of the uh property where the where the bakery is and then that path builds when he develops this will have this is the edge of the building

and then there and then you go across there back out we'll have some floor unless I can get to I'm going to leave that and then we're hoping for solution here. Okay. So, we're not going to end up in a place where we have to like totally take anything out. Oh, right. Yeah. I was just wondering if it's going to be a crosswalk there before. And I see what you're saying. Is there you all to take a walk down there? No, that doesn't matter. It's not going to go though. I get it. Is there a I mean, it's nice with a stroller to be able to lay of the land. Um that would show and we'll draw a train to Georgetown.

Have you already Yeah. So that's center and this the sidewalk that you would had. Um we we have the conceptual design pure valley arts.org on the about page. You can see about 15 different images including the layout of the entire parcel. I think it'd be really good for us to study. Put that sidewalk in. It's still going to be like 200 feet of dirt though for a while, right? That's for people that So that sidewalk will terminate into the sidewalk we just poured. So the dirt section will be from there to the river trail which is but that sidewalk will create a paved connection to a current 8 foot 8 and a half. Sorry I'm having trouble visualizing it because the red sidewalk Yeah.

is on the south side. The red sidewalk is on the east side of Clayton Court. I know that but it's on the south side of the center of how you connect to the I don't see how they connect on the south side of the center as well. So they they will come to a L at the south side of the center and then where that new sidewalk is poured is where this future trail connection can be made on Steve's land to the river trip. So you can have a sidewalk code west to east and then take a right hand turn to the red sidewalk. Yeah. So this will be at the connection west. So it'll be connect to that sidewalk.

Yep. So it'll border the new street. The whole streetscape is an L-shape. So this is just adding a sidewalk. We're just filling in before you spend money. view, we know what will then go from what you're talking about to the Frasier River Trail. Yeah. And so I think we know what the sidewalks on this town right away are going to look like. And so what I'm saying is just duplicate that and do half of that with the space. The town has to acquire 404 to get an 8 and a half foot sidewalk. Yes. And that seems to be in the realm of possibilities, but not

I I think he's going to give it to us. He's I had a conversation with him and he he says he wants to help the town. I think he's just frustrated with the timing and the process and he's working to figure out what he's going to do with his property and feels like the timing doesn't make sense to put in a sidewalk now. But if we wait until everybody develops their properties and we're not getting sidewalks for another 5 10 years. So I mean I think that's really just kind of the the point. But I'm reasonably optimistic that we will have something worked out by spring. Yeah. Um I have a another question on that line item.

Yeah. The when the lights go out, I think I just saw some stuff on Facebook because of the the new coalition that's formed, the safety coalition. Um there's a lot of people excited about bringing their opinion there. Um which is awesome. But the the lights went out during a busy weekend or something across Birdie the blinkers. The blinkers. Do we have supplemental flags for when those do go out? Oh, we do not. We could look at that. Um what happened was the wind when we had the really big wind. Um the wind blew them over. So the public works department is working on

Can we sign? That's also I think a good opportunity for just improving like those flashers getting bigger better flashers that stand out more because people still hit them. People still don't stop like getting a flasher in the middle. They are I think they are going to put one in the middle. So okay. So yeah just improving that flasher to like whatever is the maximum of what seed will allow people. I think I think it's a great use. It is. And can we add flags like supplemental in the event because I think like if they do go out there it's a lot of traffic. The day that it went out people were really concerned. I don't know what was going on. Yeah. And I rarely use those. I'm usually going through the mud somewhere back there.

You mean flags like just a flag that waves? No. the flag you take and you can probably bucks or something. I'm just making notes. Okay, I'll still have the flag. The town must still have All right, I'll ask about the flags. Um, uh, Nick, I realize this is not the snow season to really test things. Have your sidewalks had any improvements with um new sidewalk that went in there?

Still needs scraping um pretty regularly. Um it it's been improved, but it's not um as big of an improvement as I was hoping for, I guess. Okay. So, um I'm trying to ideate like other ways to like kind of like repair that. It's just the curb. It's just like fills up and then it basically becomes level with the sidewalk and then it's impossible for me to clear at that point. Right. So yeah, but like as long as it keeps on getting scraped um whenever it can be, it won't be much of a problem. But once the level I I have no options. So Okay. Um

yeah. Again, I know we talked about this last year in terms of the DDA maybe sponsoring some downtown snow removal and opted not to look do that at this time and kind of the issue of it's not necessarily the initial snow removal so much is that constant like scraping of the ice as stuff freezes and thaws and and like the manual scraping isn't exactly uh an option because it's just it takes hours upon hours. Yeah. But um the uh trucks like the cats um they can knock it out in like 10 minutes, five minutes. Um so

so do you have no is there no parking signs there at specific like overnight so that they would actually be able to do that without cars parked up front? Um I don't have any there but people don't care.

They do have them elsewhere that people just ignore. Um, but if we can put up a parking sign on that on that uh post kind of by those spots like no parking between like 9 and 1 or whatever it is um to kind of scrape that that would be helpful. Um but not sure if I the uh permission to put those up or not. time you close and probably it might be a sea dot thing but it's a yeah we open up at 100 p.m. Um, okay. Most days. So, I don't see that would have an issue with blocking part. Yeah. Take it away. Okay.

But that's a thought. I mean, if you want the town to swing through with the grater and knock it out, like usually people aren't parked there overnight. Um, I think I'm not sure if that's illegal or not. I don't know. Um but uh very rarely will will people be be parked there in the morning when they're not open just during open hours. Um I do know that they have to wait until it's kind of warmer to kind of scrape and be effective. Um so usually that's when I tell people don't park there like park over here and people get upset because they have to move. So okay well that's something we can continue to revisit because I know it's a challenge. Um,

it's just it's natural like it doesn't get much sun so it is what it is. Yep. So, does the town's public works department have a snow removal plan for Clayton Court? Cuz it's like 1500 feet of sidewalk and 30 feet of business. I know someone that wants to put a

Yeah, the original plan had been heated sidewalks. Um, but uh that that did not come to fruition for a couple of different reasons. um cost being a factor, actual space for the infrastructure that would need to go in there. It's very crowded with utilities. We'll also say that subterranean snow melt has gone quite out of style in a lot of mountain communities. Like a lot of mountain communities are actually prohibiting it at least in private spaces because of how much energy it uses. But ultimately there wasn't space to put in the infrastructure um factor. But in terms of that plan, um, let me talk with Paul and Jeff Lundy and see where things are at with that. If I remember right, when Paul came to us last year,

Yeah. he was fairly clear that while the town does clear sidewalks, they're not required to. And it's the responsibility of the business owners, correct? The property owners. Well, and that's like you going to make plow the new sidewalk that he doesn't need. What's that? I think Clayton court will present a lot of issues for again no businesses do. They do run the little things, but they're not required to. It would be and the town code he said was clear, if I remember right, that it's up to the property owners to keep us clear. It would be good to get some bids in on people that can provide that service, right? Like locally owned businesses.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean I I think even if there are 50 businesses in there, it's better to have one group responsible and everyone chip in and that becomes like a right. It's Yeah. I mean, yeah, the DDA can maybe orchestrate. Yeah. Organiz I mean I know what it feels like to try to get like Okay. So, but now that's we're way ahead of the game. So, let's keep on task because it's 20. We got to get done. All right. Thank you, Katie.

Um access and mobility. And I'm going to try to go somewhat quick here because we are running out of time. Um, wayfinding I think like I mentioned is still kind of a little bit on hold. We can revisit that as we have that wayfinding design further flushed out. Um, and we'll present that to the board as that happens. Um, I think also as the transit center plans get fleshed out, um, I think it'd be great for the DVD to weigh in and for you all just to be thinking about ideas around that space. Um, I think there is the potential for maybe some retail or even incubator space to go into that building either in the short or long term. Um,

it's nice to be retired. But I will keep you ab breast of those conversations. Um, downtown marketing and branding. So, we have the ski train video, which I think is great, um, as an initial piece. And then I think we're really looking at social media right now in terms of the DDA's kind of specific branding, um, and push there. We can definitely circle back to marketing and branding if this is an area the board would like to further focus on.

I've made huge landmarks in all of my other projects. and also had a baby, but um I I've had incredible uh growth with some of the other projects I took under wing and so I feel like I have the bandwidth to do some things. Um we can revisit it on another meeting. Um if there's not enough time, I don't know what we need most, but um probably the introductory posts about each of us that were supposed to happen a year ago. That's what Michael. Wow. Why don't we I was gonna have um Callie do a little update on her thoughts and what she's thinking of with the social media and where that's at during updates. So I would like to support Kelly and whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that'd be wonderful. I'm here for you. Summer video. Yeah. Could be a good thing to look at. Um yeah, I think so. I think that's a great idea. That's what I was getting at when we were talking about it. We just got to keep making content. Schedule Connor out for summer and fall. Yeah, he'll be here at some point. We'll just see when he's here. And I was surprised we were able to get it done that fast to be honest. Yeah, that's the editing, too. Yeah, we were really pretty lucky to get it even that good. Yes, the universe did align apart from not having too much snow for the video. But yeah, we were having fun though in the video.

Might have to refresh it next year if we want to reuse it. There's more snow. Um, uh, admin stuff is kind of clicking along. Um, I think in terms of board recruitment, um, given that last time around we did not have any applicants other than the present members, which I'm very happy to keep all the present members, but that might be just something to think about. Um, we'll have two more seats up in June. Um, I know Mayor Cir Vinnick was doing a kind of state of the community address and was interested in promoting DDA board seats at that. Um, and I had emphasized that even though we started with an 11 member board, I think a nine member board really is appropriate for this group at this stage, but we do have the ability to go up to 11 members. Um, but we'll have openings for seats come June. So, I think might be something worth touching base on at least quickly before then and doing some outreach. and then outside funding. Um, anything that's not touched on in this work plan that you all would like to throw out there for us to revisit as a possible priority or project? I feel like it dropped off the um the um oh my gosh, what's it called? It's on KFax. I visited during the tour. That like really expensive art piece that it's like 20 grand.

The sign over the Yeah, the one that people stopped to take pictures in front of a landmark selfie, whatever. You're thinking trying to think of the name of the one on KAC over here or what they have a term for it. I mean, the public arts committee is probably considered things like that, too. Yeah, I think that was one of those things that got put on hold with the wayfinding. Are we talking about the moose, right? People stopped to take a picture of the moose. What are they stopping to take a picture of here? Yeah, that's cool. We could do something with that in the future. I think I just want to Yeah, that as all this development starts. Frasier landmark. Yeah. Okay.

I think that's facilities and spaces is a P1. That is kind of the strategy behind a lot of the murals. Yeah, but this one's like its own little statue. Part of part of what we think when we do the murals is they get photographed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The mural. Yeah. That

and something we can look at whether we want to revisit or not. A couple of the other ideas that we started moving forward with and then stopped last year. Um we had talked about some sort of activation for Mural Park. um which turned into from like a popup summer type thing to the rec center had recommended some more permanent infrastructure, semi-permanent infrastructure and at the request of the town board since that piece of property is still kind of in question long term opted not to move forward with that sort of activation. And then we had talked about some sort of kinetic sculpture kind of a piece similar to what I think you're getting at Abby right there at the train. Yeah.

Station. Yeah. And again based on the wayfinding and then also what was potentially happening with that property which has now happened that was put on hold. Um but again might be worth revisiting later in the year once that station stuff is further flushed out. So totally keep that stuff on our radar. Cool. Anything else you would like to make a note of to revisit in terms of the work plan? Are there any sustainability initiatives at all that we can or need something to look at? um like waste or water or um that was economic or what was that over here?

Yes, that definitely politics. No, you're good. development.

Why don't we just make a note, Nick, to revisit that in terms of a question if there's something that would make sense within the DD development that this group wants to look at. Um, I think the multimodal stuff kind of fits in. Um, the town's working on some stuff, but seeing what exactly would make sense for the DDA. That was the drainage stuff, right? Yeah, drainage stuff. Yeah, Tiffany chimed in a lot on that on like water management and wastewater management. That's what it was. Yeah, that's but that was like but we're not ready for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we can revisit if there's other measures within the sustainability realm that would make sense. Okay.

There's that trail improvement project next year, right? Budget probably a good Yeah. So, a couple different things that we could look at moving forward. Um the town is looking at the Frasier River Trail over by the Lions Pond. They ended up prioritizing that over Clayton Court given that Clayton Court was still being built out, but the next phase is meant to look at that Brasia River Trail in the Clayton Court area. And so I definitely think the DDA could potentially step in with some support in projects there when that happens. Um, and then there also have been conversations down the road about looking at that trail connection along the creek kind of back towards Murdoch that

right K had mentioned. So, um, a couple little trail pieces there which would be sweet. I'll make a note to revisit those trail developments and improvements as well. I think the more pedestrian trails we have in town, the better. Yeah. So, and I'd like to work because the town of Frraasier is having a workshop in the beginning and I'm believe it has to do with discussions about our the um potential conservation easement land and uses and what we want to see. So, if anybody wants to come and just chime in when the last conservation No, no, on the um that was in uh Kosen's Meadow.

When is that meeting? Um next this coming Wednesday. Oh, okay. 21st at 4:30. Merrick, who we've been working with as a landscape architect, is going to kind of present what we're looking at

for the Frasier River area over by the Lion's Ponds in terms of some enhancements. There's been a lot of conversation about the desire to increase access to the river and kind of visibility, but also maintaining river health and recognizing the value of the willows prey there, although they tend to um inhibit visibility that some people would like to see. So, I think a lot of that conversation is going to focus on that. Um but yes, if any of you are available and would like to come, that'll be at 4:30 before the region. Okay. I'm not I don't have the right idea about what that workshop's about.

It's going to have to do with the the kind of next stage stages of the master plan for the core Frasier River corridor master plan for that area. Okay. And looking at landscaping access to the river. Got there may be some discussion. We've talked about kind of um a natural playground in that area and other amenities and developments. But yeah. Yeah. And a lot of that was on our discussion of what would be activated down here, right? So I feel like it's Yep. Pretty valuable content, right? To hear. Yeah. Yeah. There just can't be a lot of development like structure standpoint, right? That's the whole point of a conservation ement.

Yeah, totally. Well, the conservation easement is being placed and that is still in motion um kind of just past the Lions Ponds area. So there's a little more flexibility with development, but yeah, we're still not looking to put up buildings in that area, but that's gota All right, the meadow. Shall we move to updates? I was on the wrong side of the street.

Feel free to shoot me any other thoughts that anybody has and we can get it on a future agenda to touch base. All right, I have one super quick update. Um, I just wanted to show you that Sarah did get slate to add the elevation. I think it's a little small. You guys can weigh in. But if we wanted to make it larger, the thought was that the people who make the sign could just make it larger versus paying Slate more money to Oh, that's not what I was trying to share. But just wanted to show you what that looks like. You mean like a design edit

that they could just Let me show you. It should be larger.

This is only a what? How how big is the sign? 8t maybe. Is that right? Something like that. I don't remember off hand. Yeah. So, also we probably don't need to spell out elevation. We could just put 8550 on there. Oh, that's true. Yeah, totally. So if you guys need me to edit this at all, I can do that. Um Oh, nice. Okay. So, all right. I love free. I like free. Great. Um All right, Nick, I will set the studio. Is everybody supportive of removing elevation and just making the 8.550 ft larger? Yep. Probably look better if it was just straight

versus trying to follow the river. My didn't like it. And how about I liked it. I tend to go there. All right, real quick. Do we want to see a show of hands? Curved versus straight. Curved numbers. Yeah. Straight because it's not a part of the logo. I just feel like it should be straight. Centered. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'll make a couple for the for the estimate on this. Do you want me to give that out real quick? Sure.

So, I did finally get an estimate from our friends at the sign shop and Adamant skis. Adamant skis is saying CNC design, setup, and machine time $375 delivery. That means he's going to pick up the material, bring it down to Denver, cut it, and bring it back. 150 total. 525 sales tax 571 total. Um, so that's for the cutting of the material. Now, for the actual signage itself, it was 300 something each sign and total is 740 for the both signs. So then altogether it should be $1,200 and some dollars. So we're way under budget. No, because Amtrak's going to install it. They don't want us to touch that. So we can have them designed, printed, cut for $1,200 and some dollars.

And what was the savings? And we wanted it for like uh it was going to be eight grand for those two sides. Yeah. From Can we go lower? No. No. From Bloomsford. So that's a major savings. Does include the actual materials, the aluminum? Yes. Okay. So yeah, materials cut them check like charged for the mounting or are they going to do that for free or like we're not Yeah, I don't mount it otherwise we need to like be added to their insurance. I didn't know there was a charge. No. Yeah, I wondered that too, but they threw a coat of stain on the wood. The only thing that I see is that there might cover a lot of it

need to be a mounting system depending on what Amtrak wants. Okay. So sometimes they'll put like an L bracket that's kind of I don't know lengthwise and they'll like drill through it or they'll drill straight into the woods with washers and they'll you know premium design for you know putting into CAD like I don't know. I'm going to leave that up to every someone else. Don't drill any holes. Yeah, just let them do it. But do they do they need to see this so that he does he have any changes to comp to support the install?

No, I don't I don't think so. They'll just mount something either to the back of it. I I don't think that they'll be a part of that unless we need them to be. And if we want that track about a mounting system, yeah, cuz if we want that, we'll go back to them. Let's get the signs done for $1,200 and not spend more money and then ask them for free for the mounting like, "Hey, you have anything to mount this with?" I just don't have to screw into any of the designs. That thing's Yeah. Just can't get blown down. It's big enough you won't notice if you have a washer. Yeah. Yeah. I I did it on my Gramby signs that were virtually made out of the same stuff and you can't see them at all. I just used black on black. Nice.

And you can't see anything. Yeah. I did it all the way around, too, and you can't see anything at all. Awesome. Cool. Cool. All right. That's that. Y.

All right. Do a five minute. Yeah. Um I had sent Parks and Bill an email, but we we're going to do like a subcommittee so we can chat too about some things. Um I've also chatted with some of the downtown Frasier businesses. Um and I have a meeting this week, tomorrow with some of them. Oh, I lied. That's next week. Um to see what some of their needs are for social media, what the content should be. Um, Ann had a lot of good ideas about getting a bunch of stuff quarterly, which I think is an awesome idea, and then I can just post um, sporadically throughout. I did do a bunch of layouts that I sent you guys um, so we can kind of pick and choose from some of those just so that there's a little bit of consistency with all the posts about certain businesses and um, stuff on the weekends. I think the biggest thing is deciding on like what kind of handle you want to use. Uh, I don't think Frasier DDA is very informative to the public.

Um, I mean, obviously people have been calling it Froto for a while or just downtown Frasier. If you want to pick a district name, um, so we can do that and then I can build one of those because I don't have access to your Frasier DDA and I can just delete that one. Well, and yeah, we talked about maybe using a town email for it. We were thinking that yeah, long term it would make sense to just have it under the Tom for easy handoff. You just change the name. It might be you could give me access. Good. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure.

Yeah. So, either way, um Yeah. So, we'll just have to get together. I mean, obviously, we'll do some of the come up conference highlights on you guys and make that all look nice and consistent and what the businesses are doing. anybody has any input on those. I don't think we circulated some of the layouts, but we could do that after we chat. Okay. And pick and choose what you guys like. Yeah. I think just change the name to something easy like Froto and then in the description underneath it'll say like Frasier DDA.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can definitely put that in there. Um, I think a lot of the DVA stuff you had focused a lot on you guys. Yeah. But I think that a lot of it should focus on the businesses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cali and I talked a little bit about um like just like I use the chamber stuff so much because they do such a good job of putting it all together. Yeah. Um but on that note, what's what are the rules and regulations as far as talking outside? If it's more than two people, if it's three people on the board, it's considered a meeting. That's right. Okay. Including a staff member. Yeah.

Um but when you get three DBA board members, it's a meeting. Yeah. So you and I can meet with Cali or you and I can meet our favorite. Yeah. And and over like email and stuff is fine because I told Cali I was like I don't know if I'm supposed and Calie can go to town. Y you, Callie, and Perks can go to town, right? If there's three or more of you on it, she can send you something, but you can't really discuss it. We all three can't be on an email. Okay. So, it's three board members, email, in person, whatever. No, you can't. So, me and Yeah. Can't unlimited. It's good question. Three of them.

Parks is out of town and he can't do it. I can come in, right? So I can just be supporting staff. Cool. Yeah. And I can send you all three an email. You can't reply all. You can reply to me individually. Yeah. Gota. Yeah. Okay. So reply individually is probably the key. Okay. Let's make a motion to adjurnn. Could I make a real quick comment before we adjourn, please? No. Yes. Cali, did you have something else for us? No.

Yes. I leave. I'm the only actuary in the group. As an actuary, I thought today's meeting was very interesting in terms of the number of ideas were all quite valid that we brought up for DD to spend money on that are very costly and the actuary gets nervous and I just want to express that it's actuary's nature to be very conservative and a lot of great ideas. This is the first time I think we've had a lot of ideas that are expensive and are good. If you don't mind, they're all good. No question. But actually get nervous. I'll leave it at that. Okay.

Okay. So, adjourn. Anybody want to make that motion? Make a motion to adjurnn. Second. All in favor? I