Board of Trustees - Regular Meeting

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Right. We are rejoining the Frazier Board of Trustees regular meeting for Wednesday, May 20th, 2026. We'll do a roll call again, just so it's on the record here.

Katie Fisher.

Adam Quigley.

Katie Soles.

Louis Gregory. and brian circovenic all right um could i have an approval of the agenda still moved second any further discussion all in favor aye aye any opposed okay um could i have a motion to approve the consent agenda which includes the minutes from may 28 may 6 2026.

So moved.

Second.

Any further discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Okay, we'll move on to open forum. This is for business not on the agenda. If you are in the room and like to speak, go ahead and approach the podium there. Otherwise, if you're online, raise your hand.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mark Gibson, 209 CCR 662. Thanks for this time. Two comments on two issues. First, regarding the work that the wastewater group has done on the beer loading. I was an executive in the largest company, the largest manufacturer of water and wastewater equipment and instrumentation for over a decade. My group was involved in some of the most contentious, high-profile environmental disputes and compliance challenges that you can imagine in the U.S. and even in Europe. In my view, the job that your team has done on the staff side is just absolutely outstanding. they've done yeoman's work if you would go to blue plains or some of the largest wastewater facilities in this country they wouldn't they would be bending over backwards and doing all this kind of work it's just absolutely outstanding if if anything they've been too nice um the second uh item um i believe the st louis landing um financing was supposed to be done or closed last week or this week haven't heard a thing i haven't seen it on the agenda tonight hopefully you'll address that in view of all of the extensions that have been granted on this thing public would like to know this is going to turn into the st louis crash landing thank you thank you i think we could provide an update on maybe during updates

Yes, or or we could address it now if you want to, we can, we can address that component now, Sarah.

Um, and I don't know if the gentleman's going to stay for the rest of the meeting, but Sarah, would you like to go and provide that update now?

Yeah, sure. Um, so we actually priced on our bonds today, which is really exciting and we have a closing date for June 4th. So. So we believe we are in an excellent position to not need to ask the board for any more funding, and we should be able to repay that second interim loan as soon as those bonds close on the 4th.

So we were also able to accomplish a lower interest rate than we had anticipated, 6.17. Yep. And it sounds like we were oversubscribed for the number. We were trying to sell 35 million in bonds, and we were oversubscribed for about four times that amount from interested buyers. So it was a very great thing to hear. So we have investors who are very much putting their money forward and looking to close on that June 4th, and that will be... that will have the same instantaneous effect to backfill that second interim loan of 5.3 million or whatever amount up to that amount has been provided by the town will be reimbursed that same day.

And so we'll also on the fourth, we'll be closing on the Prop 123 funds. And so that was the 12 plus million dollars from CHFA. And then we'll get the $1 million from the Fraser River Valley Housing Partnership that they awarded last year on that day as well.

And just for the public in the record, some clarification, bridge loan number two encompasses bridge loan number one, right? So when that gets paid back, it's all paid back. There's not two separate loans.

I'm sorry, there is two separate loans. There's the second interim loan that was $5.3 million. And then there was a loan that is tied to, if we have anything extra from this closing, that it would pay that back. But that was anticipated to be reimbursed end of next year from the middle income tax credit. That will bring in $5. $3 million, $5.4 million, looking to pay back that interim, if not the entirety of it. I think we feel confident, especially given that we've just gotten another million dollars from DOLA, that when we close on that middle income tax credit, which is anticipated again for the end of next year, and this was all discussed when the board approved that, but when that is closed next year, the anticipation is that completely pays back that original loan. So at that point, you're free and clear there's no more loans outstanding glad i asked yes clarification and it was just uh yeah i thought that one was over the top of it first no i know this this this second interim loan that will be paid back on the closing date was just to keep the foot on the gas for construction um instead of like looking to remobilize and have to re-bid those those guaranteed maximum prices that were agreed to by big valley construction

So the million dollars from Dolla, is that a grant or a loan?

Sarah, you want to provide that update too?

That one, gosh, that one is a grant. Yeah. So that one was awarded a couple weeks back through the Division of Housing, and it's meant to be kind of gap financing. So they come in at the very end and give you kind of your last bit that you need to close.

You will be coming to us for the gap. Dole filled the gap for us.

Correct. And again, that money should help repay that first loan back quicker, as well as the new market tax credits that we're anticipating.

And thank you, Sarah, for being such a fabulous writer.

Oh, well, thank you to the whole team. Yeah. And most of these Bond stuff, it definitely has been the work of Stiefel and Hilltop and Matt and Butler Snow. So kudos to all of them. Cheers. Kudos, kudos.

All the best.

Thanks. That's a great update.

Okay. Moving on to discussion, possible action regarding the treasurer's report. I believe Lori had to step away.

Yeah, so I'll hand this, Mayor. So can we bring that up on the screen, Antoinette? Right. Go ahead and advance that. Here's the agenda as typical with the budget presentation here. Statement of funds, sales tax revenue, short-term rental tax revenue, the remote seller's tax, and the budget expenditures to date. So this shows our operating and cash position. Once we close on June 4th, you'll see that cash position bump up pretty significantly. So we're all looking forward to that closing. And Lori is especially looking forward to that closing. So that'll be a good day. Okay. Go ahead and advance. Here's the fund balances as of May 1st for the cash that we have. between Colorado Trust and our cash account with our local banks for the operating. Again, general fund will be restored once we close the bonds and grant reimbursements are also in the works right now too to bring in some further cash. Here's the sales tax revenue compared to March of 2025. I believe the percentile is 3.8%. Down compared to March of last year. 3.48%. So right now, year over year, just from these last three months compared to 2025, we are at an overall average of 13.2% lower than 2025. So hopefully we see that number continue to hopefully to trend upward as we have this warmer summer and people start coming out to enjoy those activities.

He Michael on this graph I would ask that lori change the color it's really difficult to tell it now, maybe a nice bright blue sky sky blue. This is just really hard to make that.

be great I don't get too hard.

Thank you.

Okay. Next slide.

And to that next slide. Nope. And we'll try to do the same here, but the line for 2026 is on the far left. So that most recent one, again, is for March. So compared to March previous, this is definitely down a little bit from compared to last year and the years prior. Next slide. 12% of our total revenue is the short-term rental tax. And March STR decreased by 24.3% over March 2025. So a pretty big hit there. Remote seller tax for March was above last year for the month of March. So that's looking good in that aspect, but not as high as obviously 2024 or 2023. So use tax is still good for online purchases. So that use tax, 6% of total revenue. So, 8.8, 8, 6% higher than March of last year. So. That aspect of things is looking good.

That's that's 100,000 or 2000 dollars. I know.

Yeah. Um, here's the actuals, um. As far as the expenditures as approved in 2026 budget per fund. and the percentile on the right hand column as far as where we are to arriving at that budgeted number. Next slide. That's it. Any questions about the budget update?

Good to see that we're under the percentage of the amount of the year that we've gone through. Do we have some big expenditures that we expect are going to kind of shoot it back up to where it would be?

Clayton Court will be a big expenditure. Yeah.

Mike SanClements, For your housing authority, you have some more big expenditures there for continued construction so really like the summer construction season will probably get us beyond what the percentage equivalent isn't here and they'll definitely spike to the construction season.

Mike SanClements, yeah again, this is pulling in the numbers as of this actual as of April 30 there.

Okay, any other questions for the treasurer's report.

I'll just say that the capital equipment replacement fund stays zero because that's putting money in to purchase a almost million dollar piece of equipment. So it's this year's budgeted allocation towards the future purchase. New loaders, motor grader, better loader first. So putting the money aside now so that we're not scrambling and falls apart.

Okay.

Okay, good. Okay. Grand County Library updates. Mary Ann.

Hello, everybody. My name is Mary Ann Dechinger. I live at 852 Hickory Court in Granby, and I'm the Executive Director for the Grand County Library District. And I have a nifty presentation for you. Thank you. right well she's bringing that up show of hands how many people have been to the fraser valley library excellent i will tell you you are winning compared to all the other town presentations i've done highest percentage so great job even if they were all nose you would still be winning so and also very conveniently located very close to it so you have no excuse not to go so I have a presentation for you this evening. We're going to talk a little bit about what we've done in the last year and then what we have coming up in 2026. I've started with the library district about a year ago at the end of April last year. And so I have seen a whole year under my belt now. We've got some exciting things going on and I have some talking points for you guys. Thank you. All right, hit the big button.

Yep, when you're ready.

All right. So what's happened in the last year? So since I started a year ago, we did a facilities master plan. So we looked at all six of our facilities, brought in a company to help us really assess them from a facility standpoint, but also from a space programming future standpoint, really to try to poise us for future growth and make sure that we don't have any surprises budgetarily because we all know those are terrible. to make sure that we are ready when our buildings need new roofs, when we might potentially need to expand, that we're ready to do that. That has contributed a lot to our new strategic framework or our new strategic plan. So our existing one accidentally ended in 2025, and I thought it was a terrible idea to do a strategic plan two months into a job. That seemed like not a wise thing. So we extended our existing strategic plan while we work on our new one right now. And our existing strategic plan really was easy to extend it because it was all good things. Diverse collection and services. Everybody, you know, we want to have a good, diverse amount of things to offer to our public. Access to those things and be a community resource. So we continue that for this year while we work on our next one. We've seen a few things. Our digital resources continue to grow. We have expanded our programming. How many people have been to a program at the library? Okay, once again, winning, beating all the other teams. Our library visits are up. So as you can see from the last three years, we continue. This is all of our libraries combined. It's awesome. Continue to grow. So I have some fun graphs. They all are to tell a story. to show you kind of what we're doing. Some trends that we're seeing. There's a misconception out there that people aren't reading physical books anymore. So this graph, the green, shows kind of our physical collection checkouts and our circulation. And you can see that that still, it goes up and down, but it has stayed pretty consistent where the gray, which is our online resources, continues to grow. So people are still checking out books. People are still reading books. They're also, in addition to that, doing a lot of online resources as well. And so that's what we're really seeing. And so we have made some conscious budgetary choices to put more emphasis on providing online resources while still maintaining our physical collection. Just to put it in perspective, digital is the light blue, physical is the dark blue. So we are one of, I would say, the cutting edge libraries in the country who now has more digital resource circulation than physical resources. And it's not that our shelves are empty and there's nothing there. We just have that many more digital online resources. Our programming, we've got two different things here. You can see the upward trend. The big bars is our total program attendance and the number of programs is the skinny line. You can see that those are both trending together. We're offering more programs and more people are coming. to our programs. I wanted to highlight some of our programs. There's a really interesting program we're doing this Friday. We're actually helping with the Grand County alert system. So I know that Grand County is doing a big push to get everyone signed up on that by summer. And so they actually trained our library staff to train the trainer. And so we are actually doing a program to help sign people up for that on Friday for anybody who needs it. And then we're actually doing a drought program. It's going to be Wednesday, June 10th. And I know Wednesdays are hard for you. But I think it's going to be a really good program on drought, drought in Grand County. And I think that's something that we all need to educate ourselves on.

We scheduled it that day because that's the second Wednesday.

You can go. I'm presenting. Fantastic. I can see you all there. Right? What time is it? Guiltless self-promotion plug. It's going to be a great program. That's one of the programs I'm really excited to go to. But I have to say, go to programs in all of our different facilities. I have been to some really interesting programs. Death and Dying for Dummies was a great program. 10 out of 10 would recommend. It is a terrible topic, but it's a great program to go learn about. My son likes Pokemon, so Pokemon Club is a thing. I've been to Pokemon Club at multiple libraries. But we really just have such a variety. I really believe we have something for everyone. For every age group, for every demographic, we have a program. So check those out if you haven't already. Or just come lead the program. Also an option. Okay. We have some big things coming up in 2026. So our summer library theme, we changed it from summer reading program to summer library program because we are more than just reading books. It is more about experiences and books and all the things. It's called Unearth a Story. So it's a dinosaur themed, which I think is perfect for Grand County. Do not be surprised if you see people in inflatable dinosaur costumes running around the library and doing things. there's going to be a lot of that this summer it's going to be really fun has anybody participated in the summer library program as an adult did you know you can't so our summer library program has an adult component You can choose to participate. You just get a form at the library. You fill out your things. You turn it in at the end. We draw for prizes. We have some great prizes for adults this year. Stand-up paddleboard and a Grand Lake pontoon trip for you and 15 of your friends. So if you're already a reader, just fill out the form. It's not just for kids. So really would like to encourage everybody to take advantage of that. We have some other exciting things going on. At the end of this month, we actually have our 20th anniversary for Juniper in Grand Lake. Our newest buildings in the library district are 20 years old, which seems really crazy to me because I remember them being built. But both Juniper and Granby turned 20 years this year, so we'll be having parties for both of those to celebrate. I told you we're working on our next strategic plan. We just worked on that, had a big retreat last week. We're working on putting that together to figure out what is the future of the library. All this data that I'm showing you, all of the information we've got from our community, from this plan we did with our facilities, really just trying to synthesize all of that information and come up with a really great plan of like, where's the library headed? So I'm working on that in my spare time. We also had an initiative to hire a full-time marketing person because we understand we offer a lot of things, but not everybody knows what we offer. And so one of my observations coming into this organization was that we need to do a better job at educating our public or selling ourselves of what we do. So we actually created a full-time marketing position. They started about a month ago. So I'm hoping you'll see it on our social media and just in general. know more about what programs are happening at the library and that there's a drought program happening. I hope you all know and see that. So we've had some things. We've got some things going on. I have one other small project we're working on. We closed on three and a half acres of land in Kremling, and so we are in the process of building a brand new library for the town of Kremling and our friends on the western side. They have a teeny tiny library and a ton of programming and it gets a ton of use. And so we're really excited to be able to do this for the community of Kremlin. We actually just met with our architects to do a charrette to work on our design plan and really start actually putting it together. And to put it in perspective, there wasn't a building. We couldn't meet at the library because there wasn't a room big enough for us to meet to discuss designing the library. So we had to find somewhere else to meet because we couldn't even meet at our own library. They need more space. And so that is a project they've been working on for years and getting to this point. And we're really excited to do that. We're going to break around in twenty seven and be done in twenty eight is our plan. Early twenty eight.

So where do you get to put it on there?

Well, as of Monday, still a moving target. That three and a half acres is right behind the high school. So the directions would be turn at the giant helicopter, go back one block and you'll be at the new library. So it's a great location in proximity, both the elementary and the high school. So I think we're going to get a lot of neighborhoods. We're going to get a lot of foot traffic. It's probably more space than we need, but we wanted to make sure I had plenty of room to grow. You don't want to ever be going to have not enough space. So I think we're looking at probably putting it more to the left so it has more visibility by the corner. But really, as of Tuesday, still a moving target, walking around the property with architects. So that's a little project. Congratulations. That's awesome. That's exciting. Very exciting.

Yes.

Yes, so our library in Kremling is owned by the town, and they're very excited that we're going to move out and give it back to them. They have plans for growth, which is great. But I think what I love about our libraries is that every library in every town has its own character that is truly a reflection of that community. Your library is a reflection of your community, and it is different than the Granby Library, and it's different than the Kremling Library. And so as we're building a new library in Kremlin, we're really trying to take that into consideration. And we want that feeling when you walk into the Kremlin library now. It's cozy and warm and welcoming. We don't want to lose that by building the wrong kind of building. So we're really trying to build the right building and the right feel for the right community. So that's the project we're working on. More to come on next. We're doing some other stuff. So from that facilities master plan, we got a lot of really good ideas of things that we could do better, not just our buildings and what shape they're in, but what else we could do. So one of our things is we need more flexible shelving so we can move stuff around. Think things on wheels. want to move stuff around. So when we have programs, because you all saw we have more and more programs, sometimes we don't have room for the programs we have. And so having things that can move around to make more space when we do have big programs or kid programs or story times, we really want to make sure that we can grow and be flexible. So that's a big initiative for us. Shelving is really expensive also. If you don't know, I've learned shelving is really expensive. So that's a multi-year project for us. We're really working on our youth and teen spaces at all of our libraries. Safety and security, we're really working on some upgrades with that. We have some room to grow with that for sure. And then furniture and meeting room upgrades. So Fraser Library is slated for some meeting room upgrades for this year. So excited to see that, some improvements for people who hold meetings there. All right, so that's kind of what we've been doing for the last year. We've been busy, but I want you to know if you take nothing else out of this presentation, I want you to know The library really is truly a reflection of all of Grand County. And the library visits are up and digital resources up and both can be true at the same time. And people can still read books. So all of those things can be true. They're not either or. We are doing a ton of programming for our communities and we're really trying to provide education, workforce support, community resilience, and really just quality of life in Grand County. We believe the library is the perfect place to do that. All right. Thank you for your support. We really appreciate all of the town's support and being a part of this community is really important to us. We also love being your neighbors right down the road. But we just want to say thank you and see if you had any questions. Thanks.

Awesome, good work. That's great, yeah.

Thank you, Mariam. Thank you. I'd like to see my board president here tonight as well. All right. Do you have any commentary you would like to hear?

No. I mean, yes, but no. Thank you all for your support.

Who the heck are you?

Oh, sorry. Yes. Hi, I'm Jeremy Crones. I live at 49 Captain Drive in Grand Lake. I'm in my sixth year on the board and my third year as president of the Board of Trustees for Grand County Library District. And yes, I enjoy having the director and coming to these presentations for the towns because A lot of the towns don't participate in the library. So as Marianne said, this is really unique that all of you do partake. And it's just a short walk down the road. So thank you all for your support and your interest. And maybe in 10 or 15 years, we'll be looking at building a new one here in Fraser and Winter Park.

Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.

I think it's one of the best assets Fraser has, to be honest.

Appreciate it. I never go there because the hours are weird. The hours. What are the hours at the library in Fraser?

The Frazier library is closed on Sunday, Monday. So they're open on Saturdays because we get a lot of traffic on Saturdays.

So some of those days are earlier days and they have one late night where they're open later. So we're trying to have a variety of hours. Friday afternoon, they close at four. That's their early day. Most of the days they're open.

Okay. Well, thanks, guys. Appreciate you coming.

Thank you so much. I just, I went through like three times. All right.

Industrial pre-treatment program. Michael. Thank you, Mayor. Michael Brack, Fraser Town Manager. What we have for this agenda item is a follow-up to the discussion that we had with the board on March 18th when we discussed the industrial pre-treatment program with the local industrial users and how that program is currently being subsidized by the rate payers for the Denali pump trucks to be coming up from the front range. and collecting the waste that is side stream collected from our local breweries and distillery here in Fraser. We do again, Have that costs divided between the town of Frazier as a sanitation district. And grand county number 1, um, as we are the 2 sanitation districts that have breweries and facilities in our areas. Um. And what I did include and maintain from the, um. The staff briefing that is currently in the packet is just showing the previous recommendation as far as how you could implement that fee to be structured. But from that March 18th meeting, when we last brought this forward. And as recently discussed at the meeting last week. Um. The, uh, the conclusion of that meeting was to look into a trickle method, um, to see if it would be viable for, um, the breweries and distillery that that do size stream capture their liquid waste. Um, to be able to trickle it that that down the sewer collection system. Um. With that, we did take that to and had a discussion with the three sanitation district managers Our water quality attorney and general counsel attorney gave rats. And our engineering team with tech and following the discussion as far as with the permit was outlining for the new permit for the discharge permit. That allows the, uh. The upper Fraser Valley wastewater treatment plant to discharge is treated wastewater into the Fraser river. Those those new requirements and those permit make this a much, much more difficult. Option to consider, um, than it was even a year ago. Um. And, uh, in addition to just various other requirements that we're looking at with. The States, um, this new permit that we're working with on the state for this discharge permit. Um, that permit has not been updated. It's been extended for. 10 years now. So we are essentially updating all of our wastewater treatment regulations from 10 years worth of regulatory updates of the state. So this new permit does encompass all of that. So following discussion with our staff and Tetra Tech and our attorneys and the other sanitation district managers, Tetra Tech did provide, did create a memorandum that is also attached in the packet stating the reason why the trickle is not really a valid option for this concept. The only way that the state would ever allow such a trickle effect is to have paid staff that work for the wastewater treatment plant to do regular inspections and monitoring, having the right equipment in place to be able to track the flows going down the sewer lines of any industrial users on the system. Um, and and regular reporting, and if there was an issue where more was discharged accidentally. Um, or for whatever reason down the sewer, and it did cause a violation. Um. You're the town of Frasier as a managing entity, but also just the 3 districts in general. I would be vulnerable to those types of penalties from the state. Um, which are not just fines, but also could lead up to, um. Restricting our permit to be able to discharge wastewater treated wastewater back into the phrase river. So, from that memorandum, and from our discussions, we did vet this out deeply. And it still is the best option to continue to have Denali come up from the front range to collect this. We have restricted that to. 1, 1 service per month. Just to keep the costs under control and as outlined in the staff briefing. This, we will continue to maintain that contract with Denali to ensure that we get the reporting directly from Denali for this, but only be charging as that service is actually used. So if there's, again, a month where we don't have that service being used, that is not billed through the utility billing for these users on the system. So again, I did outline what that could look like. And the methodology is really to look at the previous 12 month period, calendar year, as far as what that has been. If there are any major changes in the brewing or distilling process from these users, I think the town would be a sounding board for that and listen to it. And if there is a reasonable reason for them no longer to be charged any type of appropriation of this fee. I think that's definitely worth considering. But the reasonality between using the previous calendar year is really honestly just to demonstrate a more sound system and charging system to discourage any notion of false reporting or not wanting to have any waste collected. I think that we've had good interactions with our users, especially in our system, but you just don't want to provide the opportunity for, you know, or incentivize a bad decision to be made, which could result in that discharge down the system. So with that, again, just bringing this back forward to the board, with that option being vetted, Um, again with the. Ongoing work at the plant to expand the capacity to accommodate the next 20 years of development and to meet the new permit regulations and everything else. Um. As part of the application for this permit, we're required to provide every commercial user on the system. last time that we had this permit issued we did not have any brewers or distilleries so now that you have brewers of distilleries um you're required to provide every commercial user that's on the system and what types of waste they are generating and how that waste is handled and um and if you have any commercial users that have anything other than just general residential use waste going down the sewer line you have to show an industrial pre-treatment program for how you're accommodating that waste coming down So it's important to, I think, just set the expectation with this type of service. And additionally, just in the future, as you have new types of services coming on, while the code may already address it, And you may not understand the impacts of it. So just as something that I would just put out just for advice, it's just if you have something like psychedelic mushrooms that has been approved by the state for manufacturing, I mean, you could have something like that as a waste byproduct that you would want to look into before business licenses are approved and such. That's just an example. Not even saying that that is a waste concern, but just you don't know because we don't have that in our system yet. So, with that, um. Again, I just show the breakdown and cost of what we're expecting and, uh, worked on a tiered system to be equitable between, um, the users, the breweries and distillery. On the system based on the number of gallons that have been collected the previous year. And that costs 1. will be divided as shown in that chart in the staff briefing, of course, unless nobody comes up to actually collect that waste. So, I think this incentivizes a few things 1 incentivizes just. Better coordination between the breweries to actually. Coordinate a little bit on manufacturing and collection. Um, hopefully that can have some, some financial savings there. Um, and additionally, the last time that I brought this back, I recommended an implementation date of June, and I have since changed that to just. july um for if the board does approve to move forward this direction that this invoicing would only be applied to their billing um starting in july if if a denied pump truck does come up to the valley to service those waste containers that that would be divided those costs would be divided as shown on the chart to those users

So you had said it's $2,000 a month for Denali to come up. So does that include Winter Park's breweries?

Grand County, number one. Majority of the proper town of Winter Park. We split that 50-50. Even if you're looking at a different use right now. That's like $1,000.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's, you know, it's a nominal cost, but, you know, from discussions and concerns that I've heard from the board about ensuring that, you know, an equitable approach is being made for the rate payers and subsidizing certain costs that were perceived to be costs that are just a cost of doing business. Again, I think we've had a pretty Good approach to this as far as working with those bruisers salaries and vetting different options as far as what else we could look at doing. But when it comes down to it, we are trying to finalize our permit that we still haven't gotten. Should be getting into this month.

So we got the draft permit in February. We didn't get it in March. We anticipated it last month. We didn't get it. So they only issued them the last day of the month or the Friday closest to the last day of the month. So we won't know until the end of this month whether they're going to issue permits. There's a little bit of encouragement and that we didn't get it last month. Um, but, um, there was no limit changes for, uh, has been consolidated or 3 lakes. So the draft permit is what went into effect.

For those 2, and we're not, we're not expecting any changes as far as the industrial pre treatment program changes. The only changes that we really that our attorney team really pushed back on was the total in an organic in organic nitrogen limits. Um. I think some of the metals, but as far as this type of program, we're not looking at any changes from the state for that draft, for that permit piece. So again, those monthly fees by the four users that we've identified for this, they are shown on the second page. I'm sorry, the third page of the staff briefing. So that monthly fee that you're seeing there would only be applied if that service comes up to service the brewers and distilleries. And I think since we've had this discussion, we've had better coordination between the brewers and distilleries as far as when to come up and who needs service and who does not need service. And have included the brewers and distilleries on those emails and just helped with Denali providing better transparency and communication moving forward. So again, these monthly fees would only apply for the months that they actually come up. so denali has the um capacity to take all their waste on like on an average production month well it is it greatly depends on i guess the size of the the containers that they have uh at each of these locations as far as how much waste they can consume um it can store all those denali trucks 2500 gallons

Uh, there hasn't been any issues of the trucks being full. Okay.

The stage.

Yep, because they're generally servicing a tote at a time.

The 1 total at a time, it's in a truck and we've, you know, we've heard that there are different. Everyone does things a little bit different from their operation and how they produce their, their product. But, um. You know, some focus on higher production during certain months, but hopefully, you know, with this actually going to the actual users for this cost, this essentially helps the town break even on those costs that we're paying for Denali. And if there are efficiencies through the collaboration of the users, just to look at producing on certain months of the year, that would lower their financial burden on this service as well. So happy to answer any questions that you might have on this.

We'll do board first and then the public if we can. Do you guys have any? No questions? All right, go ahead.

How's it going, everybody? I'm Nick Crabb, the owner of Canberra Brewing and Frazier. I guess for those of you who know me, I don't talk too good. So I'm going to try to make this brief. And just bear with me. I had looked it up, and it looks like Breckenridge, Steamboat, Gromit Springs, Silverthorne, and Durango, to name a few, they allowed the trickle. I'm just kind of curious if you've ever reached out to any other towns to ask how they make that happen, and if there are stipulations that we're not seeing in the state statutes that allow this. Or is this just more or less because it's a new permit? Or like, I think it's same product that we need to intern. And I was also curious if there is a change in volume based on adopting new policies or new production. uh practices or whatnot that i'm learning from the other uh brothers or whatnot that i didn't really know about um therefore even though i was the smallest brewery producing the least amount of beer i had twice what vicious and uh beerco did because i was using all my rinse water and all that which I could have basically, that's just water, but I was told to put it on those totes and I come to realize that that's not exactly the case. Would the rates be adjusted potentially? And also I might need a larger tote if we're only doing this every couple of months and I'm not sure if that's in the cards or not. So, and one last thing, This is a really bad year to be putting a new essentially tax on us. Most breweries are down upwards of 15, 20% more than most businesses. Beer in general is just not doing well. And it'd be a hard thing to swallow to basically have that new cost added to also much lower revenues, especially since 24 was much lower than 23, 25 was much lower than 24. And now 26 is just tanking, probably because of the snow, hopefully. But just more or less things that it's not going the right way to add a new tax. So that would be detrimental to quite a few of us. So yeah, just my two cents.

So happy to answer some of the questions from Mr. Krabs. So the permit requirements are based on the time and place from when their permit is issued. It's typically a five-year permit, but most people do live off extensions because the state is so backed up on these permits. So our team, as they've gone to, they go to numerous conferences and they have multiple conversations with these different users and they talk to Steamboat and Breckenridge, these different guys. We've talked directly with a gentleman that runs in Frisco as well. They have one user and they had to address it because of the one user. And it is based on the permit that is in place because when these trickle conversations first happened, I don't know, Nick, two years ago, when we had our Tetra Tech team here in place, we hosted open house. The permit that we had was more definitely more open to that type of deal. And that's why it was discussed as a possible alternative. It was never shown as like, this is definitely going to be a solution, but just a possible alternative to look into. And since we've been going through these conversations with the state, their expectations and their conversations that we've been having for months now have been very much like talking about how these are going to be the expectations. You won't be able to bring Anything that has this chemical composition cannot be discharged down the sewer system. So, it really is a permanent place. I mean, it's they've they've talked to these different entities and they all have challenges with it. Um. So, you know, if it's a trickle thing, I mean, that's that's information that I could have vetted before the meeting, um, to some degree, but, um. I mean, we've we've we've confirmed this with our legal team and our engineering team. It's not just our engineering team saying 1 thing or the other. It's also our legal team looking at the permit language. And their interactions with the state on this, um. As far as the, uh, the totes, that's not a problem. I know that, you know, probably the biggest challenge is just having the space for it. Right? Right. And, um. But my understanding is that totes aren't an issue. We have chemical deliveries that come in those types of totes. That's why we're able to provide them at no cost to everybody pretty easily. Some of the other equipment that we provided, that obviously costs money. But for those totes, if you needed one additional tote, or if you wanted to try to... I don't know. You're pretty handy, I think. I mean, if you wanted to try to create something by combining two totes and make space more efficient or something like that, I think we could provide totes.

I have totes. So if you want two more or one more, I can get you a tote. I might call myself now. We'll get one delivered to you.

Right.

And would it be like, if I have a higher volume month, would it be something I could just like ask you guys ahead of time?

There's no, give me a couple of days notice and make sure my, my, you know, my crane truck's available and we'll throw one on there and bring it over. It's not an issue. Yeah. And there's space. And I would think that the idea is that Denali will come once a month, not every other month. So. You know, if two totes work for a month, then we can make sure you have two.

Or if two totes work for two months or something like that.

Any totes you need, I have plenty.

Yeah. Do you also have those big square ones that are like 150? Yeah, we have the square ones.

We would bring the square ones with the metal frame. Okay.

Those are the ones we're talking about. Heating those has been a problem, especially over at Highway. So I'd like my... bram where i'd probably put that thing is heated so i'm not really sure if that'd be a problem for me but on our nights like usually i can get you what you need as far as volume for post i can get you what you need um i guess a pallet jack would be needed for that thing too because i can't move that but uh that's i mean we can we can talk about that yeah i mean we can move them when they're empty just two people can move them if it's loaded as long as the knowledge can get the back truck there i don't think you'd need to move it in your way okay

Did you still have somebody trying to get rid of a pallet jack?

Was that it?

Did you still have somebody trying to get rid of a pallet jack?

That was a long time ago. That's not right.

I know that the team can help you put it where it needs to be at the time. Just as long as you don't need to move it when it's full. If Denali can get to it with the hose, they can set it out.

I have those heaters too, but I don't know how I would bring it up to like put both of those in there because i didn't ever really need her to use those that she gave me before um but any ideas there would be helpful too but we can talk later yeah awesome yeah like i said just reach out to michael myself and we'll get you to tell between you yeah it's easy

It's understanding that this is a harder year for the businesses. That's why I was presenting July. If the board wants to look at something different, you can. Obviously, that's just a suggestion. Hopefully, at some point this summer, fingers crossed, things look like they're rebounding pretty good, but not looking to put this in place right away and provide some time for them to financially prepare in addition to hopefully acknowledging some stronger customer traffic.

So I have a couple of questions. I think one for you and then a subsequent one for you. Actually, maybe it's more of a statement. I would encourage and I would suspect that if you did prove up that you're using less water and weight, having less waste, that you would not stay in that category. Obviously, that would be mine. Yeah, because I was surprised when I saw Canberra twice. Yeah, I mean, the quantity. So that your explanation was pretty good there. And I would assume that if your practices are more efficient and done properly, that you can prove up. That leads me to a question here that changes our dollar allocation if because that's based on $1,000 split. So we would have to adjust that to

It's almost more of a percentage.

Yeah.

What I'm saying is I guess I can't guarantee $125 or whatever. It might go up a little bit or something. But we need to cover those costs. I do disagree that it's a tax on you guys because right now it's a tax on me. and it's your business, and I'm paying for that as a resident of Fraysham.

Fair. And I guess to that point, both Urs and I would probably say that was never explained when we opened up, which would have been helpful. Oh, yeah. And now it's a new cost that we never really expected or run for anything.

And I think that comes down to the individual because I've talked with Nathan and he said he was fully expecting to put in this kind of equipment, you know, because he trained it left hand. Yeah, one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It doesn't matter. But he told me that they had Dave Kuntz, A storage bin under the parking lot basically for their to their waste water to be stored and pumped and he was kind of expecting me, so I do think there's varying levels of knowledge on this or or. Dave Kuntz, Awareness that this was a need and volume also. Dave Kuntz, I was just trying to make a point that I feel like i'm bearing the cost right now as a resident so.

Um, Nick, as far as, like, the clean out stuff. I think, and I think the, the, uh, the letter from our attorney, as far as, like, what is required to come out if you have any questions about, like, what should or should not be going in the bin, especially with your conversations, like, other users, like, other, other burgers and distillers. Um, just please shoot them to us. We can help validate those things because of. If certain things are supposed to be going into container that maybe others are not putting into container, we just want to make sure that everyone's doing the same thing.

Again, they just have like an extra, like Brian uses an extra hop back, which is like a micro tank. It basically filters out all the hops and proteins and all that stuff out of it. And pretty much what he's left with is no waste in his actual kettle. it's all concentrated in that thing he just throws it away okay so yeah yeah and then um throws away his hops and everything so um i just had never like talked to them about that because you know i know everything right so yeah so now i'm finding out about it it's like okay i can probably get by with my three totes but just in case that's not yeah um that's why i make sure that there was an option um

Well, and just, you know, just to clarify that the goal of this is just to have everyone doing the same thing. And if you ever have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. I'm only here for a little longer. Paul's here. He's very plugged into the wastewater things. Just asking questions just to clarify things would be very much welcome because we just want to make sure that that we're communicating correctly and that everyone knows. It feels like they're informed. So if there's ever a question or anything, please don't hesitate to reach out on that.

And if I can take this time to thank you guys for this. If we ever came off as antagonistic, it's because I have very strong beliefs that Tetra Tech is So if anybody wants to ever talk to me about that, please do.

Thanks, Nick. Yeah. Obviously not, you know, I was hoping the trickle thing would work, but yeah.

Yeah, they were pretty clear that no, we would be in violation. That was very clear.

Yeah. Well, I'd say, I mean, if, I mean, thank you. I would suggest that we maybe push this a month or two. I mean, we have a motion, but we say August 2026 or just because of the bad winter.

I mean, all the residents are having a bad winter too. Everyone's having a bad winter, isn't it? I mean, we've been talking about this for years. I think a couple hundred, $125 isn't going to... Now for Barry, it's $500. Well, look at his freaking waist. He should be $1,000.

Everybody's waist. I mean, my girl just went up. Yeah, my insurance has doubled. My ass just went up 50%.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's cost of your business, unfortunately.

Well, let's say vote.

Now how about for accounting for our staff?

Is this an easy enough thing for them to make happen starting in July, the July billing? And if it's, do we, are wastewater billed quarterly? Is this going to be billed monthly or quarterly?

So it will go on the quarterly utility billing. And we have spoken with Becky, who does our utility billing, that this is something that she can implement.

Okay. So that would be July, not June, right? Because isn't it July, August, September, October, November, December?

Yeah, if you were to start it in July, that starts the third quarter. Yeah. So they wouldn't get billed for three more months.

Yeah. Right. So, okay. Give them a little chance to get their head above water and face the beer prices.

And I will communicate with them whatever you guys want to do so they can ensure that they're preparing adequately and and those different things so they can plan for it.

Yeah, third quarter. July 2026, third quarter, start filling them.

So July, August, September, that billing will go out early October.

Make sure they know that it's coming in October because that's a slow time for us.

gotcha you know what i mean yeah so but it's coming off of the three best months right july august yeah right yeah yeah yeah i'm comfortable with that gives them a little time to get their head above water and plan for it and raise rates so you guys do i consensus on july yeah yeah um somebody want to make the motion at the bottom of the um i didn't read the motion maker lately I have at the bottom of the staff.

I've never had a chance to pull it up.

There's a recommendation at the very bottom of page three.

Thank you, Mr. Gibson.

Okay. Also personal. I move to charge the knowledge waste collection services of industrial waste collected from brewing and distilling operations as proposed in the industrial treatment program collection subsidy staff briefing. I second.

Beginning with the third quarter. July 26th.

Is there a second?

I second.

Any further discussion? All in favor?

Aye.

Second.

Any opposed?

Yeah.

Okay.

I saw Lewis.

Yeah, I saw him say I'm in favor of it.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay. Yeah. I think that's a good solution all the way around. It is.

It needed to happen.

You know, and I think, you know, and we be more efficient. It motivates them to organize themselves.

And if

new people come on board and new businesses come on board and they join that collaborative and they figure out the solution, you know, and we just adjust the rate.

Right.

So long as it can still haul it away in one load.

Yeah.

Which we'll tell later.

Well, again, I think that's all them. You know, if we're starting to think maybe it's every other month, every once in a while, well, then they start to schedule it out and say, you need to have this quantity every month and they need to organize it.

All right.

Okay. Yeah. Thanks for the discussion, everybody.

You guys talked a good to go, right? To see if they could tack it out to the grease.

We did. The issue is that they can't find a... treatment location so denali has a proprietary treatment location right um so uh good to go i was wanting gramby

But they just recently started. We have a different person that works for Good2Go. It's our subcontractor, you know. I'm just curious. It's over. It's not initially. Yeah, we're done for now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good2Go.

They what?

They didn't have anywhere to take that.

Correct. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah.

Like the RV going over the fence.

Like a train. Should be.

Okay.

Eisenhower Sculpture Location. Sarah Wick. Is she online?

Antoinette speaking on her behalf. Okay.

Board of Trustees, Antoinette McVey, Town Clerk. I'm presenting on Sarah Wick's behalf. So the Eisenhower sculpture has been repaired. He has his fishing pole back and he's intact and he's ready to be relocated in the town of Fraser for the board to choose where that location would be.

In the water. I like them in the water. Watch you guys.

I can read the briefing or would you guys like me to read it?

I don't know.

So the sculpture has been recognized as a piece of Fraser's public art collection and community identity for many years. Due to deterioration and damage, the repairs have now been restored and completed. Part of the process staff evaluated opportunities to relocate the sculpture to a location that would be But that would provide improved public visibility, better pedestrian access and stronger integration into Frazier's parks trails and river corridor amenities. Several locations near the trails, water features and gathering areas have been identified and conceptual renderings have been prepared for the board to review and discuss. An important consideration in selecting the new location is a long-term preservation and protection of the sculpture. Past damage and repair needs highlight the importance of placing the sculpture as an area that remains publicly visible and accessible while also reducing opportunities for climbing vandalism or unintended damage. So staff has prioritized locations that balance the community enjoyment, visibility, and protection of the artwork for the future. The relocation also prevents an opportunity to enhance interpretive storytelling, visitor engagement, and place making efforts to connect to Fraser's outdoor recreation and river corridor identity. So the cost associated with the restoration and location of the sculpture include the transportation site preparation, foundation work and installation. Staff will continue evaluating the preferred location to determine the final installation requirements and associated costs. potential site improvements may include concrete flat work, landscaping, lighting, or interpretive signage depending on the fiscal or the financial or the final selected location and project scope. So in the staff briefing, there were several locations that the staff did go and look at as potential and Wendy's gonna pull it up. I looked everywhere. So this very first location is where it was previously located with a little water outfall and it's on the south pond and the water can be resumed to have the water outfall so the water can resume flowing there if we choose to put the sculpture in that location. I think that is the easiest location because it's already had the pedestal for the statue there so it would cost The least amount of time and money to relocate it that location.

But it was vandalized there. It was vandalized there cost money to repair. Forget that's fine.

Yeah.

That's not saving us any money.

The 2nd location is there by the lions funds also. It's kind of you can see that chaos kind of in the background. So it's kind of where that. Trail comes through kind of by the Fraser River Trail that connects over to the Lions Ponds. It's kind of just beyond that location. And it's kind of in the little outfall. There's some water there also as a second option. The third option would be actually in the pond, which would be more... would cost more money because they would have to build a platform out there to put the sculpture on top of that. And that would probably not allow the staff to do it. We'd have to hire somebody to do that for us since it's inside the water.

And can we get permission to do it?

That's true.

The thing with all of these so far is that in the wintertime, that water is frozen or non-existent, and I'm worried about somebody snapping the fishing pole again.

Going out there on the frozen water.

Right.

Sure. Agreed.

You know, I looked at all these, and I don't have a – I guess all of these seem like short-term. My long-term vision is when we finish the downtown area and we have a brick – Parkway at the end of Eisenhower Street. It's the dabbling place and a wider place that it be in the center of that. Looking down at the sun that goes down, you know, twice a year all the way down Eisenhower, shining right on. That's kind of my vision is that's the centerpiece in the art centerpiece downtown. So I think any, to me, any of these are acceptable as a temporary, you know, that is five, 10 years down the road. So what do we do with it in the meantime? But yeah, Eisenhower Road, you know, that's our public meeting spot. You know, that's our history. I think that's my long-term, but yeah.

and but that's that's my long-term vision as well and the issue that i have with right now is it's gonna cost a lot of money to install it somewhere and then we're gonna have to get it out of whatever it was installed in and pay the money again so like you have to be able to enjoy it the whole time What if we put it, like, in the corner over there or, like, somewhere inside where it's not?

It's pretty big.

Yeah.

I don't think we could necessarily easily put it indoors here. Maybe if you want to consider that, is there somewhere we could donate it temporarily and so we could put it outside? Because do you remember we used to have the big statue out here that was way that we had to move out of the room?

Yeah.

yeah i mean maybe it could go on the public works facility temporarily once it's built for until we're ready to install it but that's a long ways away and that's a long ways away too also a lot of people don't see it at the lions club like no one goes there yeah anthony can you show the last photo yeah so the last location was here If you're familiar on the Fraser River Trail with the Wapiti Bridges, it goes to Wapiti Meadows.

Yeah, and there's a little black fisherman there.

Yeah, and it's right there. You can kind of see him in the background of that picture. Little plastic spot. So he'd kind of be in the river a little bit there.

That's definitely the safest place. Yeah. But again, I don't know how many people will see it. How much is it going to cost to install it there and still get taken out again?

Can he stand up? Can he stand up on his own? Yeah, that is true. I'm just wondering if you need to put him inside somewhere and stand him up when we have to He'll definitely need to be secured.

I think he's standing on right now in the public works facility.

He'd be like the big blue horse that fell over on the sculpture. Oh gosh.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah.

What do you think?

The idea about if that positive concept is able to come to life, that's going to be an expensive project. If you do have to relocate this thing to maybe center that more on that it's going to be a nominal cost compared to the full size and scale of that project.

could have saved 10 grand and not got that true not got that sculpture at the church and just put him there.

spot that sculpture. I know we spent a lot of fishing at the church.

So if you have it across the river, it's harder to get to. People aren't going to break it. It'll be preserved. I would recommend paying a little bit of money just for like a little pedestal that talks a little bit about Eisenhower. So you can have that right off the Fraser River Trail and then he can be like on the other side of the river. That can work well until you have a permanent plan. That's whatever you guys want to do.

I bet he couldn't go to St. Louis Creek where he actually fished. Although it's not in Frayser, I think that a lot of people use that. You know, like chainsaw and flume and stuff?

Oh, right. Yeah, we're going to keep it in downtown.

We're going to hoard it.

Okay, fine. Keep them intact. Keep them locked in. We're going to tuck them away.

We're going to say we are in the process of, due to the constant vandalism of the bathrooms, getting cameras. in an alarm system. Just got the quote today and there will be two extra cameras on the building that we can direct in any location. I'd have to stand out there and see if we can see him through the trees. But if we were to go back in the existing location, as Antoinette mentioned, there's already the footings there, the pipes there to set him back on temporarily. As far as getting the water turned back on, we think we can get it turned back on, but that is a valve controlled by Winter Park Ranch, Jim Fox. So regardless, we're going to get the area cleaned up. I know that's been an area of concern for the board. So we're going to clean it up. So whether it goes back or not, we still have the bricks that were donated to create that space. We have the three interpretive rocks with information on there. So I want to clean that area up anyway and have the water running whether statute goes back or not. But if that is a potentially the lowest cost solution, if we're looking to move him in the future, we're not building anything new. We're not putting anything else there. I don't know if moving him to the bridge changes anything. It's just a different bridge location for somebody to mess with them.

If we put it cost us to replace that fishing pole.

I thought it was close to $20,000.

The original artist wasn't able to do the work. So we had to get somebody else who was good at welding and creating in bronze.

St. Louis Landing.

I mean, I like the idea of him being in our downtown, but yeah, exactly.

Well, that used to be that walkthrough history park behind HCA, which used to be a really beautiful park, but all the sculptures have been removed. There's the landscaping. It's not as nice as it used to be. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah.

I think something you need to ask yourself is if this plaza concept comes to life, is that who you want to be at the head of that plaza where it goes to the river? Is that going to be the main highlight for Freighter? What are the things you guys got to think about?

We have Eisenhower and then Eileen right now.

the thing about the cameras is that I mean even if we catch the person that vandalizes it they're not the people that are going to be paying to replace it again

I think all locations are vulnerable for various reasons. Lions Ponds has the most visibility. If we put it at the back by the Wapiti Bridge, now it's isolated. People can do things to it and nobody see them. I don't think there's a good solution unless we put a fence around it like Plymouth Rock and keep everybody off of it.

I came up with one. Let's plug it in.

Electrify it. Yeah, electrocute it. Well, we don't have to make a decision today, but I think it's something that we need to think about where we would like to keep that, you know, even if it's short term, I mean, If the end of Eisenhower Drive isn't done for 10 years, do we want to have it displayed somewhere? It would be a shame to have it stored away in a garage for 10 years. Yeah, it's a wonderful sculpture.

And have it along the river or in the water somewhere. So staff was going to throw together some estimates on the cost for locations relocating. Is that right? Can I see that in the memo? No.

No, we talked to the pressure committee to see if they have any.

You know, I think we can. I know Kelly's been working with her. I don't know if they discussed this specifically, not if they've been brought in. I'll be honest. I don't know.

Yeah. If you want to wait for a cost estimates, we can bring that back. You know, it's starting to get nicer out again. So, you know, opportunities for, like Katie mentioned, walking around a little bit, getting a feel for it. St. Louis Landing there in the St. Louis Creek could be an interesting location if that's where he fished the most often. Kind of interesting.

That's a rumor. He didn't tell me that.

You didn't ask him? I wonder if Bob Wolf would be willing to. Oh, yeah. Go picnic in the park. It's not a bad idea. over there by there and then you might end up with location that is super vulnerable and then we have a lot of little kids maybe when you cross the bridge but the first bigger bridge you're looking right over at it on the right they have a hoax on the grass here just by carriage yeah because it's nice in that big huge puddle Okay, I'll take a picture.

It's perfect.

Um, to Katie's points, just thinking about different location, you know, feel free to take some photos and send them to staff. And, you know, we can play with some concepts here.

Yeah, I mean, if we can, if the board can come up with a consensus and maybe where to put it, then staff can work on the cost to put it in that location.

I do have a question. Is the force of four of us removing the Thomas Jefferson or whatever it is that is in the creek, that is in the Fraser River there? That's fine. Is that something that I don't want to mess with? The black plastic.

The one in the lab picture.

Yeah. You can see his head in the blast.

I've never seen Thomas Jefferson.

It's like Thomas Jefferson slash Darth Vader. Yeah, it's like a mannequin. Yeah, yeah.

It's definitely a funky Frasier thing, but I don't want to mess with it if people are, if they like it. I'm not attached to it.

I've seen it for about a year or two. It's been there a while.

I miss the penguin thing. It's literally right there.

The penguin thing was cute. We should bring that back.

You guys want me to get rid of that? It could go away.

And then they could scope out and go away. You could take a peek at that site to see how easy it would be to put a platform there. That would be worth doing, because that would be a good spot, because it's got to pick up both sides.

You can see the whole thing.

The head is kind of shiny, and the rest is black.

We will get rid of the strange figure in there.

Actually, that's hilarious. Get rid of the figure and scout it out for a simple platform. That might be a useful spot for it.

Maybe don't throw it away right away and see if there's a response. We'll do a giveaway at a picnic in the park or something.

We can start taking pictures of Oliver Fraser and be like, where is he now? He becomes a mascot. Get rid of the penguins and just have this plastic guy.

All right. Um, we'll keep moving augmentation slash divergent updates, dry season impacts to town water infrastructure.

This is fun for trustees. Just. I just wanted to re, approach the augmentation diversion and. Drought situation we talked about, I believe it was 2 meetings ago. So we had filed our emergency release augmentation plan with the division. We were ready to release. And the day we were supposed to start releasing, Free River started. So we have still not made our release. So I think it's a good thing. Pardon me?

Free River ends tomorrow.

Well, then we have to get back in touch with... Well, I mean, I don't get that email pill. You got it. So... We'll get a call from HRS, which will then allow us to then restart the process with whoever runs Lake Granby to do our release there from November. We just sent the new accounting worksheet that the division wants, which is causing some of our augmentation problems on Friday. So it was their request to stop using what they had told us to use for the last 20 years. So due to the conversation I had overheard, we did bring in the Grand Park team and their water attorneys and their water experts to sit at the same table, same side of the table with us, with the division. So we have his attorney and his water, his version of HRS working with us to make sure that we're accounting for everything correctly. They are attributing a lot of dry up of the meadow and things on West Mountain that need to be dried up. They're already saying we have to make augmentations for that and just a lot of back and forth. So we're still working on that. But they were going after Cornerstone and their cousin's ditch. So we had a conversation earlier about kind of the use it or lose it. And they're basically saying, go ahead and flood irrigate when he doesn't need to flood irrigate in order to use that right. And he'd rather keep the water in Leland Creek and Vasquez Creek and where he has all his water right, St. Louis Creek. So working with him there. But then moving on from that, the drive season impacts to the town. Would like board to discuss and give direction on how we want to handle any sort of water restrictions. There's two local water restrictions within the county currently. GC number one, theirs goes into effect on June 1st and district customers there may only water outdoors two days per week and must follow a set schedule. So it's an odd and even whether you get to water on Sunday and Thursday or Saturday and Wednesday, they don't kind of give any limits on that or how you're supposed to do it. It just says outdoor water use. Kremling has gone much stricter on some of this. So theirs reads that no water shall be used for any outdoor purposes except for trees, shrubs, and vegetable gardens. So those are the only three water uses you can use, and it can only be used between 7 and 9, both a.m. and p.m. And they've also discontinued all bulk water purchases, so they have no bulk water in Kremling. So they've kind of gone to the extreme again. Both of these are surface water districts. They are totally reliant on their ability to divert from the Fraser River or what water is up in Red Mountain Reservoir. We're on wells. We haven't seen any loss in production at this time. But again, it takes months, years for the aquifer to kind of move with these changes, especially anything that's in the troublesome. So the thought was to be consistent in the Fraser Valley. What I would suggest is that we match GC number one's restrictions and then look to maybe, depending on how the summer goes, restrict bulk water purchases as well. We still have bulk water being purchased for the hotel. They have a meter and then we have bulk water being used on St. Louis Landing. So we would need to make sure that they know where they can go to get bulk water. The only source currently, other than ourselves, is Granby, I believe. And they're about $40 per thousand gallons. So more expensive than what we charge for water.

What does that look like, bulk water? Is that a truck?

A water truck. And that's all finished water. So anything we use, then it must be augmented for. So as Trustee Quigley mentioned earlier, the historic user pool, it's filling, but only to a certain point. And once we start, um, they stop releasing, then we have issues in our north system because that's our only augmentation.

So grand County one, what is the restrictions?

Uh, even, There's this just, you can only water outdoors two days per week and you must follow a set schedule. So we could do, Kremling is odd days, odd addresses, water on odd days, even on even days. So some days you get two days in a row, depending on the month. But just something for us to look at.

In our regulations, doesn't it say in the past that you could only water that in the morning seven to nine? And then the same thing in the evenings?

Our hours are in the evenings. But we don't have a restriction on how much you can do. This would be looking to try to limit irrigation to only being every other day.

I think we just tell Motor about it and make her just shame people.

Yeah, I'll make his shame people. Has the county made any decisions on this?

I mean, they're pushing out all of their recommendations, but the county doesn't have a water system. So yeah, right. So each district to set their own restrictions.

Yeah, I mean, I think we just we should be consistent with with Winter Park. Just everybody around here is doing the same thing.

Okay. So I'll have a resolution drafted for the board for the next board meeting.

But it does make sense to not allow people to water during the day because it's just lost.

We restrict it to the same hours. Sorry.

I think it's 10 to five. But we can, we could follow, um,

If we want to be consistent, GC number one, Grand County number one is 6 p.m. to 10 a.m. So those are the only hours you can water between. So more open than what Kremlin has gone to, but more water on this side than that side.

Now, and Adam, you had also talked about charging much more for those people that use over their allotments.

The same is true.

And I think that that's a really good idea. So somebody doesn't leave water running all night because they can't.

It is the most effective way to change someone's behavior. You need to pair that up with education.

Adam, can you speak in the microphone, please?

Adam? What I was saying is, yeah, drop pricing is the most effective way to change somebody's behavior, but you do have to pair that with education. I do know that actually Tabernash Meadows Water and Sand, they put a quote on their water use, and there is drop pricing after that. So there's penalties if you go over watering allocation. So there's a lot of ways to go about this, and most communities have a mixed bag of the tools.

I would think, to add on that, Adam, I think it doesn't matter how many days per week you're watering, it's how much you're watering. So if it's your day of the week, you could water from 6 p.m. to 10 a.m. constantly.

Well, and I think that's the most important part.

Most people... You know, depending on if we're getting rain or not, you don't water when it's raining, right?

Unless it's on a timer.

Well, right. But, you know, it matters more how much you're watering versus how many days a week you're watering.

And, you know, there's a saturation point. With bluegrass, you're basically getting it watered in the first half hour to hour. it takes about a half inch of water because those root systems are short and stuff like that. So if you're trying to saturate down to a foot, you're just wasting water. And when you're irrigating, there's a thing called LRF, which is lawn irrigation return flow. That doesn't exist in this kind of situation because you need the water table to be high and you need to saturate the ground to reach the water table for LRF to exist. So It truly is a matter of frequency and duration. You're correct.

So if we're going to do a financial disincentive for people to do that, third quarter, and I don't know how it looks on our water bill because I don't see it anymore because I get it online and I don't look at it. But for that over your standard use right now, it's what, I don't know, something per 100 gallons or 1,000 gallons. $1.77 per 1,000 gallons. Okay, so now we're going to make it...

I don't think you changed T1. That's your average user. That's your fan base.

No, the base stays the same. It's the one for over.

Yeah, Tier 2 and Tier 3, which are your heavy users, are the ones that you want to do this to if you want to take that direction.

Well, I'd say anyone who's going over their usual usage, or they're adding on that extra, because like you say, it could be somebody in town that just decides, I'm just going to leave my water on all night.

So I have an example. We have, I don't know where the addresses are. I just have a report that shows at least six or seven House's last irrigation season averaged 800 gallons per day, which is a lot of water.

That uses their allocation in four days. Each EQR has... For the month? No, for the year. I forget the exact number, but it's like 3,500 gallons. You take your $153, you'd add your 12,000 gallons allowed in

Tier 1, it's $21 in consumption. This is using a 30% drought increase. Tier 2 would then go to $4.59 per 1,000 gallons. There'd be 8,000 more there because it goes up to 20,000. That's $36.72. Where it really takes effect is in that Tier 3 at $9.17, but at $52. thousand gallons, that's $476. So their total bill comes out to almost $700. You might get their attention.

So, those vital the people that were burning the 800 gallons. Where's what tier were they in any idea?

The homes, but that was end up in tier 3, but at our tier 3 rates of 6 dollars per. Oh, that's right.

Here's a based on quantity use not the quantity used.

So. It's when you take it, when you take it into perspective of. Where some of these houses are located at what number does it take to get their attention before? They actually noticed that. Oh, my water bill was. $1,200 instead of the normal $600. When those are on automatic in some of these locations, it's not noticeable. If we were to see somebody in Old Town using 800 gallons, it'd be very noticeable and probably painful. But a lot of these are homes that are not occupied generally.

They're all on timers and

So Paul, I have a question for you because I remember talking to Lucas and these smart meters are being put in. Apparently people should be able to monitor their usage like on a daily basis. Is there any way that real time that people can see how much water they're using? Because, you know, we get these quarterly water bills and it's like too late to know, you know, if you're wasting water or you have a leak or whatever.

Yes, the idea is once we have them all implemented, we can then give. Uh, you know, residential access to the system, but right now it's. We're still, we're only about 2 thirds of the way through town. Um, so we're actually trying to get some of these 2nd homes getting into those. We're getting traction now, but it was harder at the start of this project to get into those homes. But I think there is the ability to do that. They're only as smart as how you program them. If I do three loads of laundry, it tells me I have a water leak in my house or it tells me I've been running. So, I mean, I get these alerts and I run home and I check everything and it's, oh, we did four loads of laundry. So it really depends, but it can tell, they're pretty good at telling the difference between a shower and running irrigation because that's a large volume over a set period of time. But again, I mean, they're sensitive enough to know that when there's a certain trend that we know it's a toilet flapper and nobody thinks that that's a lot of water, but when it runs nonstop, it's a lot of water.

So I think in the future- I think you just have to give people that information or give them access to that information so they can self monitor, right?

Currently, Lucas checks it daily, and if there's an anomaly, he's calling that homeowner.

Are we still doing monthly meter reads?

Yes, we still have to go out and do monthly meter reads as well.

I know we did that.

Part of the rationale was a courtesy.

If we found a high usage, we would give a call.

Instead of monthly, Lucas is looking at it no less than weekly, but he tries to look for any large consumptions daily. One of the first things he does every day, and then we start making phone calls hey we think you have a water leak we think you have a flapper you know you got a toilet running non-stop a bathroom that's not used often if it's running people don't know paul do we have people already irrigating this year i believe they've seen some irrigation

Okay, because our irrigation season is defined in our water rights, and to irrigate before that starts is contrary to our water rights. And so I'm thinking that in addition in our water conservation ordinance, we restrict hours during the day, but we need to define our irrigation system because we're outside of our water rights if dating in early May and late October. There's 150 153 day irrigation season that is defined in our water rights. And we should codify that. And part of our water conservation ordinance has fines in there for daily watering infractions those fines well they're 25 bucks so they need to be modernized 20 years old but but those need to apply as well to if you're irrigating outside of season uh that's a no-no i mean that's we don't have augmentation for that is the bottom line

I think the difficulty is enforcement who's riding around finding it. And we've got smart meters. Smart meters are really at the north end of town. It's almost completely done. We're working into rendezvous in Grand Park, which is where most of the irrigation happens. So we're not quite at that point. I'd say next summer we'll be ready. But I agree, anything we put out, any resolution that I will draft that I'll have irrigation is only to happen between this date and this date and on these days.

And I think if people are exceeding their annual allocation and if they do it in a week, then there needs to be additional costs for that. If you're watering outside of your rights, you're breaking our water rights and Again, we don't have augmentation, we don't have all those things. I think irrigation needs to be contained to what is legally allowed.

I think it'd be great if it was all kind of spelled out how it is written now and then what we need to codify at this point. Yeah, because enforcement's difficult. But I mean, I was talking to the mayor of Grand Lake last week, and she said that people down in Denver are already like pouring stuff on lawns to kill lawns if the grass is too green. Like if they're watering too much. It's the neighbors doing it. It's the neighbors doing it, how their neighbors. You're watering too much in a water restriction, so we're going to burn your lawn.

Right.

Yeah. So if people know what the restrictions are.

I think we have, maybe it's a two-pronged approach, getting something in place to place the restrictions, and then working... to maybe update our code, codify stuff in chapters. We have some work to do this winter anyway in three of the chapters, so we could add this to the list of things to codify. My one concern is if the board wants to go with any sort of drought pricing is working through how we turn that off. What is the trigger to remove the drought pricing? And is that the county going to stage two? Do we reduce it or? where do we want how do we want to make sure that turns off automatically so that we're not coming back to the board for another resolution to turn them off if we can put an automatic turn off in there uh and if that's you know if grand county returns to to stage two we can turn off the drop pricing well couldn't we just say this drop pricing is in place until october and then we can do it that way as well but just do it again next spring if we need to I just want to make sure we have an automatic turn off so that we're not stuck scrambling to do something in a board meeting.

I agree. Yeah. the situation remedies itself, then there needs to be the ability to call it off.

Yeah. So maybe it's both. It ends on this date. But if we return to stage two with a great monsoon season, then we could turn the drought pricing off. I just like the automatics. Then we don't forget about it.

You know, thoughts about the data approach, though, is that if things do back down from a drought stage, but then they go back, Well, and that's where you don't want to. It's very hard to get attention in the first place.

So that's where I would think the trigger would have a timeline within it. You have to drop for more than a week, more than two weeks.

We're in hope that the county is not yo-yoing our stages. We're going to go to stage two because it's evident we will make it. through the end.

At least for the full quarter.

That would be nice.

Probably a good idea. I mean, just, you know, in conversation with Paul, Lucas, and I think some comments you made too, Adam, it's just irrigation and showing what our water use is as a whole, 30%. David Price- or irrigation and Lucas was saying much higher numbers like 50% last year is what we really experienced for irrigation. David Price- For overall water use so there's a problem there and I, I would encourage things like even if you have some type of. lawn replacement incentive program or something where you could help with the education or just helping people understand different types of grasses and deeper root systems versus shallower root systems and what uses more or less water. Those types of things, working to address this permanently, I think is a good approach. And that could be through an increase for the tier 2 or tier 3. Um, but I think at some point. You know, those types of increase in costs don't matter to some homeowners. I think it's, you're not really getting any more water from those increased costs. So. It's really just looking at maybe some, some really. Public momentum, or even some strong code conversations that update the code. Just to look at how you can. curve that because that's it's definitely a problem and it's not going away um and you know we we are getting more in fraser than than winter park And it's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed, I think, just sustainably, not just based on a drought season.

Even at 50% and not at 50% irrigation, we're way outside of our water rights and our augmentation supply and such. And I remember having conversations with the state engineers where they were starting to

be aware of that situation as well so yeah so there's smart systems you can put on irrigation systems you know that to meter that use and restrict that use and you know that could be something that you look at too but um there's a way to make it happen it's just again encouraging addressing the long-term problems so um so good discussion

Just to clarify, we're going to match Grand County number one, the start date of July 1st, start of the quarter, and add in our irrigation dates to that information. Yeah.

Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Town Hall remodel. Wendy.

So...

Hi, Wendy born deputy clerk. Yeah. I have sort of presentation together just so that you all can kind of see what's going on and to keep me on track. So we can keep this short and sweet. Um, So town hall remodel, you've seen the big white blank wall when you first walk in the door. And so this first section is about the foyer and the entrance hall there. Whoops, sorry. So to put in a brighter pendant light, the one we have there right now just has those little candle lights and they really don't put off any light. So I'm usually the one that's here late at night in the winter. And so it'd be nice to be able to see. But then carpet runners, the same way that they are now, but they would go from completely all the way from one end of the hallway to the other end. and then have another runner that would run from the front door to meet the other runner. So we're not stepping on the wood as much as we probably do now. One of those would have a logo, the colorful Frazier logo on it. and um how much more does it cost for the logo than just a regular doormat it was hardly anything okay it was just a little bit okay do we is that like an alco thing do they pick them up and change them out or who cleans them uh we have cleaners that come in vacuuming that's cool yeah that's right and so um then for the alco um sarah found this and put together this picture for us And so we'd be putting the wood, dark wood in the back. And that, just to make it feel more homey and comfortable. Also, it's pretty striking. And we can use floor laminate for that. And it would be relatively inexpensive to do that. And we would, the streets department would do that for us. We have a person that maintains the building and she would probably be able to to put all that up based on conversations that we've had. The Frayser logo sign would be like 46 by 46 approximately. And then that TV, that big TV is just gonna, it would scroll through, hopefully have a line of like right now it kind of shows They've got it set up. So it's a touch screen. But in our, our thoughts, it would be just scrolling through events and pictures and any kind of posters on events that are coming up. And it would just scroll through. And then the directory sign for where, which end of the hallway you need to go or upstairs to depending on how you need to see.

And then the arrows pointing the right direction.

Let's vote. And then that smaller screen that's portrait shaped, turned portrait is 45 inches wide. So I'm not sure how tall it would be, but 45 inches wide. It's kind of hard to say because that's not necessarily the way you normally would place a TV.

Usually TVs are measured diagonally.

Right. Okay. I have instructed all the bids that I know that's not how the TV is measured, but this is what we want. Okay. And so they've configured their bids based on that.

But the 55-inch TV looks like it's three times bigger than the 45-inch.

Yeah.

This may not be to scale. Yeah, that may not be to scale. I just kind of guesstimated and came up with some good dividing so we're not just equally in quarters. Do you guys like that size?

And I think the big size is great. And in the touchscreen size is probably fine.

I mean, that's probably honestly, like, I think these are 80s.

Yeah, I would say like an ad in the middle would make sense. And then So the thing with touchscreens is you want to be ADA compliant, so you don't want any buttons that are too high up. And so, like, the way they're configured right now is probably fine, but you wouldn't – if you go bigger on the actual screen, then you need to make sure the buttons stay lower.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm sure there's a threshold there for height that we can check.

Okay. And then we also had – because we have chairs out there right now, but we don't want to put any chairs up against where the TVs might hit a chair, so we have just some little benches that would fit at either end of that.

Good. Yeah, because people like to sit. Yeah. It's a nice place to sit to blow it off.

And then for boardroom improvements, there's all the information about that. Boardroom improvements would be the trustee and staff chairs. And if you go to, there's three different styles. The general consensus for us was the part that wears out the fastest are the arms. And so if we got arms that were not fabric or vinyl or whatever you want to call it, those, then they wouldn't wear out as fast and they would look nice. But there's, you can see there's a wide variety of ranges in pricing. That's for $15,000. And that's $15,000. Sorry.

15 chairs.

So 15 chairs are obviously the dais table and then these here, but we would have later on, you'll see that we have another table. So it would be another chair here as well. And so we wouldn't have to keep stealing them from the other offices during board meetings.

So why do we need to change these staff tables?

We are running out of space. If you notice, Antoinette and I, and usually two other people, will be presenters that our staff will be here. And then sometimes, recently, we've been having other staff have to sit over here in the public side. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but they can't be preparing for the meeting, you know, balancing on their lap.

It's in the back where you've got room to move over, but up front, there's not. A whole lot of room.

Well, we tried getting make it my thing. If we could get another one of these tables and we can't get another one of those tables. Either you have a mismatch or you do update it. The other thing I would just point out to is that it's kind of nice to have some screen which you'll see on the next slide. Yeah, the screening is just seeing some screen for the tables and everything else. I think it's just more professional. Just a cleaner look.

So also replacing these chairs. With these other chairs, those are two different options. It's nice to have the ones without the arms. In case you get a larger person, it's nice for them to be able to fit in the chair. Obviously, two different.

Yeah, it's cheaper. And they stack.

And they stack.

What's that? Yeah, and the arms are out.

Yes. Well, and they're not as heavy. These are pretty heavy. So those will be, they're stackable, and you can get them out of the way if you need to.

So we had this made by Grand Woodworks, right? I think so. Did they?

What price do you stay on what you don't like?

What's that? Yeah, not for the whole tables. I'm not thinking for the whole tables. What I'm thinking is our tax, our revenues are down 13 to 25%, depending on the bigger income sources. And I can't justify all of these expenses. personally 15 since then yeah so anyway that's what i'm trying to figure out you know a way to make some of this work um the chairs i'm fine with them these white chairs i'm sat in these chairs i don't have a problem with them and these chairs i don't have a problem with Are you guys really a problem? Well, they got to bring them from their offices in here.

The board has the nicest tables. The staff has the worn out one with the armrests that are kind of falling apart. Okay. And some of them don't have any cushion left. So it'd be nice. You definitely need some cushion.

This was also budgeted.

And this whole thing was budgeted? Is in the budget?

$15,000.

Okay, so well, if it's all in the budget, what about paint coloring here?

Just not going home. Let's think about it. And those staff tables. Explain why. Okay, so I couldn't find a picture of an exact staff table, but this was the first one can be created by again our streets department because we looked for new tables hours. hours of looking Antoinette and other people looking for tables they all want to be wider than this so 48 inch these are 36 I believe and they all wanted to be 48 because they're boardroom tables so people can sit on both sides well we don't need that much space that takes up way too much space we do need the length which is a 10 feet but we need two tables at 10 feet and So the options here, the streets department can build these out of butcher block and put legs on them and a privacy panel. There would be a privacy panel on it because they're custom making it. And you can see the prices there. That would be, to do two tables, it would be approximately $1,300.

And what are the dimensions again? They are...

25 by 120. so almost two feet by um 10 feet and there'd be two of them they're more narrow how wide are these more space back there in case we need to put um eisenhower back there there'll be space we're putting back there let's see here and you guys are comfortable with a shorter table like a skin here only 30 inches No, it's only 24.

Yeah, we can size them.

That's, that's what I'm wondering.

It's like, Yeah, that's cheap. We can make it. Yeah.

Got it. Yeah.

Yeah, we've customized it. We've come up with an idea to set most of those cords to be hidden, not just from the privacy panel, but having just kind of a built-up little pedestal on that. And we can put the hole where we need to for the cords so they're not being seen, raise up the monitors. I mean, we've come up with a solution for that. This was just an example. This is the closest thing I could find to what the streets department can build for us. Or you could get four tables that are five feet long that are that one right there, and it would come to $2,500. And you just, the person in the middle has to straddle all the legs.

Got it.

That's worth $500. And then in the icebox room, these are not the exact cabinets, but I found the exact cabinets after some searching. Because we always have all of that stuff on the counter and just make it, that's our meeting space. And so to make it look more professional, you could put them up there on the wall. And just the three upper cabinets. And if you look at the next page, it shows you the cost breakdown. So you could do that entry way in the hall in the foyer without the touchscreen for $2630 and with the touchscreen, it'd be approximately $5,000 more. The boardroom furniture, depending on what you choose, you can go anywhere from almost 4,000 to almost 7,000. Icebox cabinets are only 1,200. I found those one place wanted twice that for the same thing. Again, those cabinets would be installed by our streets department. And so then you see the totals, depending on which materials you choose with or without the touchscreen. And so that's, without the touchscreen, you can stay under budget. And even with the touchscreen, you can stay just higher, but still in the budget of 15,000.

Okay, so are you all comfortable with these chairs? They still go up and down. I feel like it's comfortable.

Is there cost savings if you're getting 15 of them?

Well, I was just thinking, right now, over budget by $500. Well, not necessarily. We could do a lower priced chair. We don't have to get the $3,700 chair.

We could do the $2,100 chair, and then we're under budget. Okay.

Well, I'll get staff some new chairs. I like these chairs.

Build their own tables. That's how I would do it.

Yeah, build your own table. That's a good idea.

How much butcher blocks of that size? They're approximately $483. Oh, at least. They're in my cart. The thickness and the grain, how you turn them, that kind of stuff.

All right.

Wendy, I have a question. Have you looked into the software that would run the touchscreen?

I found one vendor, Best Buy. I just reached out to them on a whim and they would come up and they would put a 55 inch TV in that will work with their software. It's not a touchscreen, but it works with their software so we could have two different programs running. And then they also have a 45-inch wide TV, he tells me it's wide, for the touchscreen with a program that runs it for $5,600. That's installation and delivery.

Okay. That was cheaper than... You've got that figured into the price, Wendy?

If you do the one that says including touchscreen, yeah. The 12-7-30 to 15-53.

I can just tell you, and I'm coming from a guy that sold the software that runs touchscreens for seven years, you're not going to want two systems to change the non-touchscreen and the touchscreen. You're going to want those on the same system. Right. So if they're suggesting two different systems, I wouldn't... No, they were suggesting one system.

One system would worm both, and you can have just two different applications so that they're not... One is obviously not touchscreen. But the big one is not a touchscreen. The big one is not a touchscreen.

Be prepared to put a little sticky note on the one that says not touch. People will go up.

Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah, they will.

Yeah. But, yeah.

Maybe that's where we put the bench in front of it.

Then the kids just step on top of the bench.

Or they lean back into it. My grandkids.

The reason I have such a large TV for the display is so that the bench doesn't hit the back of the screen. True. Now it's out of reach for kids.

I think when people walk in, especially if they're waiting for a meeting, it's nice to be able to fiddle with something. And then the last...

the last page is just future improvements so you can see this is not going too crazy it's really not touching the carpet in here which is why we're not touching the paint because the carpet and the paint match and the carpets not worn out quite yet um but we did get an estimate for the flooring to be refinished just on this on the lower not i mean the whole lower level of this building and that was 13 000 that was just one estimate so that's not even including the upstairs and there are several places where this this flooring real wood is wearing and it needs to be protected and so that's those are obviously some extensive costs coming up in the future oh the mural oh i forgot about the mural um so that um i've contacted um sarah wick and we've discussed that the pack may be willing to cover a mural on this wall back here definitely willing um she said based on some of the other buildings that they've had painted and paid painters to to do that the artist it's cost it this size of a walk could cost in the approximately $10,000. So, but she said they may be willing to cover that.

And I'd say something very simple because it's the background for you guys so it has to be something really basic and simple and maybe even just start a logo, the town of Fraser logo. with good writing to the side. Because it is, it's the backdrop to the board and our business. It doesn't need to be something really busy and fancy. That's mom to me. Not sticking to it. So chairs. Mrs. Sould has come back to her. Some of these chairs are in fine shape. And I just have a really hard time saying, well, we're gonna just pitch them and get new ones. But the ones that are not in good shape, they gotta go. So if you can, you know, girls. cruise around, check them out, see which one goes, which stays and then we'll order some new ones and keep the ones that are still usable. Because just throw it away, I think is not appropriate. Okay.

I love those chairs. Silence is agreement.

Season's going to go. You're pointing at what?

I mean, I don't love these chairs. I'll be honest.

What's that?

I don't love these chairs. They make me sweaty.

They don't make you sweaty.

They don't breathe at all.

The bear's sweating again. Are the prices dependent on getting 15? No. It's okay. It's not a volume price. Okay.

No, I didn't even put sale prices on anything because, honestly, I've looked these chairs up six times, and every time you come up with different chairs because they're sold out of something. I just think you guys stay in the budget with every wine.

You guys are here, not me.

Oh, I'm sure, but they're more expensive than these.

Yeah.

He did massage a lot. Yeah, right. Make us all fall asleep.

Be like the nail swan. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah.

I know these are bulky and kind of a hassle, but they're pretty darn comfortable compared to what these other ones look like in terms of sitting for a meeting.

Yeah, sitting for three hours. Yeah.

You know, of course, if we don't want people to stay, we could make the chairs really uncomfortable.

Church pews.

Church pews.

With knots on the grass.

The armrests do help with spacing between the seats too, which is kind of nice. The armrests do help with spacing between the seats as well.

Yeah. I'm good with these chairs for a while. Until we make some money. Let's get some. They're right there. They're white, kind of. Were they white? Yeah.

I mean, I don't like that.

Maybe when we repaint, we'll want to get new chairs and they'll all match. Right. Yeah.

I mean, black chairs are black chairs.

But I don't know. I just feel like the way finances are going, we don't know how they're going to go. I don't think that we should just throw money at stuff that doesn't necessarily need to be replaced. I'm with you.

So,

Should we move forward with the foyer?

Yeah.

I say there's staff tables in their chairs. Yep. Ours are fine. These are fine. Yeah.

You know, and if you see one back there that's in really good shape and one of these that's not or whatever, but I didn't mean somebody really wants one up in their office or an office in place. That's really bad. Then we could do some rearranging like that. So long as it just doesn't get thrown away or just pitched.

All right. So we're not touching those chairs. We're leaving these chairs. We'll replace chairs back there as needed new tables for the staff entryway. I think we have agreement. That thing proposed for the entryway, the cabinets and the icebox are good. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Is that area right? I'm sorry. Is this is that this area rug? Up there. That's all the runners. Oh, future stuff. Gotcha. Yeah. Future stuff.

Because we still have orange walls. So we got to have orange party.

The walls are cool, but that's pretty cool.

Somebody did the bathroom. There was like, what is that? Right here.

I believe I have direction. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for all that work. A lot of time. Cool to see what they come up with.

All right. Updates. Whistle is crossing. Update for Eisenhower and Coney Road 5. Call. Okay.

So kind of still where we were last time we talked about it. But the intention is to work with the county to see if they would like to add County Road 5 to the Whistler stop. I know we had a resident come in and ask that question. We don't control it. It's not in our town. So we're reaching out to them. I also have a contact with CDOT now as part of... the passenger rail and our multimodal building that is willing to help me through the federal process. And then also our new planner, who'll be starting Tuesday, has also done this down in, I can't remember what it's called, Stapleton Central Park. He's done that work down there before, so I'll be tapping into him just to get through these last couple of federal regulations, but he says that in his experience when he did it, the railroads pushed back pretty hard. But once you meet the requirement, that's just getting through all the hoops. So working through those hoops, but we'll be getting, once he gets on board, I'll be working with him and the CDOT representative to get that pushed forward. But with passenger rail coming, he's very much involved with the rail all the time now so he's willing to help we had a meeting when we did the walk shed and subsequent meetings so he's willing to help so is that yeah i'm sorry i thought you're finished go ahead keep going i'm done okay corner five is there a room to do it there so they would have to do well they would have to try to approach it the same way we are doing it that there hasn't been an accident and they already qualify and don't have to add anything But they could add it. They have room to add the divider similar to the Winter Park Crossing. But I'm not sure the county would want to expend the funds. But just trying to bring them on whether they want to do it or not. They have room to run the divided median to keep the separation, which we don't have.

And that's a tough one, too, because it will. I remember years ago when a gal, actually, I think she died in the car wreck. It was coming off a 40. It was a snowstorm. She turned and ran right into the train. It was running. Of course, the whistle is not going to make any difference.

Yeah, and I think they have to do the analysis. I can do the analysis to see if it qualifies. I think it did. But it's just whether or not they want to jump through the hoops.

Don't spend your time.

Well, I'm going to ask a question. Yeah, ask a question.

And then see, you know, if... You got to think, like, okay, so they didn't whistle here. And then four more blocks down, they whistle to go through County Road 5. So, like, it's not helping the people of Fraser. They're still whistling.

It's a lot. I don't have to plug my ears when they hunt down here. They'll be right here.

You are looking at a lot of high-density, full-time residents.

Right across the way.

It's amazing. It's true. It's still far away. I was in the bedroom on that side of the house, and it was as loud as it is down here. Is it? Oh, was it? It's crazy how it echoes up.

The person that's asking lives up the hill, yeah.

I'm modular, too. Like, how close is my house to the tracks, Katie? It's, like, so close. My window's open to it right there. It's, like, moving. But I still like it.

Well, you'll still hear it with passenger trains, so...

yeah um okay um other updates with that update as paul mentioned uh we did extend an offer and that offer was accepted by jack seward jack seward is uh he will be the town planner he has accepted that position as a town planner for the town of frazier um and we will be introducing him at our next town board meeting on june 3rd So he's currently in Silverthorne area and he works for the Master Community Association down in the Stapleton area. Otherwise known as Central Park. So he actually Central Park.

He has a house. He has a townhouse in Central Park. They have a family townhouse in Silverthorne. He splits his time, but he works for it's called MCA. They do all the development for the Green Book. So he

been doing all of that development the redevelopment of the airport um so yeah he has a lot of rich background and um experience and and i think he's gonna do great things here so looking forward to having them on he'll be starting tuesday next week perfect so he'll be commuting He will actually, we're working with him to set him up in the cabin that we have here, just on an interim basis. He is actively working with a realtor, and he's actually looking for a townhome opportunity for purchase. So if you know anything, please pass along, and I'll shoot it to him.

Yeah, that's true. I'll send them something. Okay, other updates? Congratulations.

Sarah, do you have anything else to add?

Yeah, I've got a few quick ones. We forgot to mention last time that we did also receive a grant from OLRT in the amount of $321,566 towards the Frayser paved multi-use path that we have budgeted to do later this year.

Wonderful.

Yes, we are currently accepting applications for board members. So that is open through June. 1st, we'll be bringing that to the board of trustees any applicants that we get. We have 2 seats open Steve Fitzgerald and Nick crab to be eligible. People must live or own property. Within the boundaries. Business owners can also apply, but based on our current makeup of the board, it's most likely that they will need to be residents or own property because the majority of the board has to fit that criteria. So, if you know anybody that may be interested, or maybe a good fit, please send them our way. We hope to get some applications in there. There's also a home rule survey out right now. If you may have received a text, we're working with Magellan to do that survey. So they sent text messages out to a certain percentage of registered voters. We have not gotten a great response rates. We've also made the survey available via QR code or web link. So you can find that on our website or Sarah has also posted it on Facebook. But please encourage people to take that survey. We'd love to get that response rate up. It's open through Monday. Yes. Yeah.

So I received that and I did not answer because I'm sitting on this board and I wanted to hear what other.

yeah with the resident you know i didn't want to just read what we had to say and i think there's logic to that um and like you the link that you get through the text you cannot send to somebody else or i guess you could only one person can use that link okay um but if they go on to our website it's one of the spotlights or to our facebook page those links anybody can use Typically, they like it to be a randomized sample. So they have, you know, hopefully a good reflection of how people would actually vote and be representative of people going to the ballot box. But given that we're such a small community, we're just putting it out there via those links on the website and social media. So those are the best ones to share with other folks that are, again, people who live within Fraser and are registered to vote to take it.

Thank you.

Yep. Yeah, we'll be bringing the results of that survey to our June 3rd board meeting to discuss if the board wishes to move forward with the Home Rule Initiative at this time as a ballot initiative for November.

um wait one second who's sending the surveys out the the magellan or magellan yeah they're sending about like busy times a day for people they should be sending them on the evening before scrolling on their phones they said about like two o'clock in the afternoon everyone's out yeah i filled it out at like two this afternoon 12 30 i got one two o'clock you know and then you just kind of like spam and then it's gone i don't know they should know that already though right

They probably have data on them.

They probably have some data that says do it at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

Right. Maybe people are getting bored at work.

People are getting paid to... I don't think it fits Frasier, though. They're all working, you know?

I know they're sending one more reminder out. I can ask them if it's possible to send it out in the evening if you think that would be a better time to catch people's attention.

Do you have another one? No, that's all. Okay. I forgot to mention this a while ago. We haven't had a planning commission meeting in so long. So, Joanne McCoy stepped down from the planning commission, and she was a mayor appointment. And so, I spoke with Amanda Erath, a Fraser resident. Um, about joining and she accepted, so she's gonna be on the planning commission. She, um, has a law degree and she worked for the Bureau of Reclamation for 15 years.

Right.

Um, yeah, she's been up here quite a while.

So, um, who will do her orientation? Um, so someone that can do an orientation.

So I've been talking to Alan about that. I don't know if you had anything to add to that. But just talking to Alan about that, just to try to coordinate at least with, I think, Eddie Miller could be good too. We do have some of the trainings with the town board when we have new board seats that are filled. Some of that, I think, is applicable to that person. But just, I've been, I was working with Alan last week on this just to provide some general overviews of the comprehensive plan that was just adopted, the downtown strategic plan, and then just general orientation to our major development areas, Rendezvous, Grand Park, downtown Frazier, the out-of-town service agreement, and just providing some good thoughtful overview from a planning perspective for existing and future land use here in Frazier.

Right. So Alan sent an email to me and to Andy talking about doing some sort of orientation with Amanda. I brought up the fact that if there's three of us, then we have to have a public meeting. So I cut myself out of that. So Andy is likely going to do that.

They'll be meeting next Wednesday, Andy and Alan and Amanda. Great. Perfect.

Wonderful.

What's her last name again?

Erath. E-R-A-T-H.

Great.

You'll recognize her.

Okay. That's great. Thank you.

She's been outspoken a couple times, so it's good. I don't think I have any other updates. Anybody else?

Cool.

I moved to adjourn.

Got an executive session. Another one? Yeah, this should be quicker. Sorry.

Sorry to be a tanner.

We got to remember that sculptures and furniture are long topics for this board.

I know. Everything like fun. That's all the fun stuff.

Yeah.

All right, so I'm moving to enter into an executive session for discussion of personal matter under CRS, section 24-6-402, parentheses 4, parentheses F, parentheses 5. There we go.

There we go.

Dave Kuntz, Right and not involving any specific employees who have requested discussion of the matter open session regarding interim town manager to include Tom manager, Michael rack.

Second.

Dave Kuntz, Further discussion all in favor. Dave Kuntz, Any post okay.