Boma - Regular Meeting

Thursday, April 23, 2026
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Boma
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Boma
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Franklin, TN
Meeting Date
April 23, 2026

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2:23 – 4:190

conceptual meeting between board  of mayor and alderman and Franklin   planning commission and we'll begin with the  roll call. Commissioner Harrison present.   Commissioner Allen is absent. Commissioner  Franks absent. Commissioner Lindsay is absent.   Commissioner Ore is here. Commissioner  Man here. Commissioner McLemore present.   Commissioner Williamson present. Alderman  Peterson here. Mayor Moore did not see   absent. Alman Pototts present. Alman  Burgerer absent. Alman Caesar absent. Artman Blandon absent. Artman Barnhill  here. Nice. Ottoman Brown absent. And Alderman Bagot present. All right. So item number one, discussion of development  plan revision requesting three additional   modification of standards. Sidewalks connectivity  on 25.64 acres located at 1190 Lewisburg Pike,   Tuckaway PUD. Staff, yes, thank you. Um, this is  for a revision to the Tuckaway PUB subdivision   development plan. This will be revision number  two. Um, originally this was approved to be a   subdivision. The last revision approved it to  become a uh church campus. Uh this revision   does not propose any changes to entitlements or  any significant expansion um to the campus or the   building itself. Uh it's purely for modification  of standards requests that all relate to access   and um sidewalks. So um if you'll notice the  uh sheet I handed out for the tuckway PUD  

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subdivision. Um the first one MOS number one  is already approved. So we don't even have to   discuss that. that was approved by the board of  mayor alderman uh previously with revision one.   Um with revision two um the first new MOS is  MOS number two and that is a request to delay   construction of the Northern Cross Action Cross  Access Connection until future development occurs.   Uh let me point that out on the screen just so you  know exactly what we're talking about. It's this   little road right here that connects to the north.  that's currently a uh residential property. Um and   that future connection to be installed by the  developer of the northern property. Um staff is   recommending disapproval of this modification of  standards due to the uh lack of a uh date certain   of the construction of that uh connection to the  northern property as well as um putting financial   hardship on a different property owner in the  future. MOS number three is a request to remove   the required pedestrian connection from Lewisburg  Pike to the main building entrance. So again,   if you'll just follow me on the uh laptop here  or the screen here. So connection uh to the main   building right here and thus the campus of the  church gateway church. Um we are recommending   disapproval of that as well just because that is  a requirement of the zoning ordinance to um uh   provide access from the uh front entrance of the  main building uh to the public road. MOS number   four is a request to delay construction of the  sidewalk along Lewisburg Pike until development   occurs to the north and south and sidewalks uh can  be constructed from adjacent property owners. Um   so again going back to the MOS number two request  uh we are recommending a disapproval because there   is not a date certain within that MOS and we just  don't know when that development will happen in  

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the future and there's really just uh not a um  mechanism in place currently uh to keep um that   in check. Uh so we're recommending disapproval  of all three new MOS requests. So happy to   answer any questions when that time comes.  All right. Thank you. Do I have an applicant? Hello, my name is Greg Gamble and um I have to  selfishly plug that I'm now with Kimley Horn and   we are the landscape architects for Fellowship  Bible Church. Um we have been working with   Fellowship Bible now through their development  plan process, through their site plan process.   Um site plans now approved. They are under  construction. Uh foundations are are being   poured for their church and uh the excitement  is growing. Um we have are introducing um three   additional modification of standards. This first  modification of standards as pointed out by Joey   was approved by the board mayor and alderman and  eliminated the requirement to have a southbound   connection. There is still a westbound connection  um uh out to the uh adjacent um roadways that is   an emergency connection only. The neighbors have  approached Fellowship Bible and they have said,   uh, we plan on living in this house. Um, we would  prefer that this connection not be constructed   until some point in time in the future when our  property develops. I'd like to approach tonight as   somewhat of a conversation. We're hearing things  from neighbors. They're saying things to us,   to the church, um, to Fellowship Bible. and  Fellowship Bible is really working to try and   accommodate what the neighbors have asked for.  Um the um portion of the road that you're seeing   here would be platted with an access easement,  but the roadway and the sidewalks would not   be constructed. That's our proposal with this  modification of standards. When we first brought  

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you the development plan, there was an opportunity  that the church be closer to Lewisburg Pike than   what the church proposed. They said to our firm,  um, please push the church back off of Lewisburg   Pike. We want to protect our rural viewshed. We  want to be behind the existing tree line. We want   to we want to create as little disturbance in the  front there as possible. We want that that rural   uh character. As a result of that, this uh  sidewalk that you're seeing here is over 1,500   linear feet. It would go from the uh the main  church building, which is actually the building   all the way to the the back of the site here.  The building at the front of the site, that's   the existing home that's going to be used for  administrative offices. Uh the other buildings are   future uh and would come in a in a future phase.  So uh this sidewalk um is required to extend all   the way 1500 ft to Lewisburg Pike. Uh the church  is requesting that we eliminate that sidewalk   again to protect that rural viewshed that's here.  uh they would like to have the two uh lane road,   the turn lanes that are required to be constructed  as a part of the church and your consideration for   the elimination of of this sidewalk as a result  of really them doing the right thing which is   pushing the church back, pushing it off of  Lewisburg Pike to create that open space relief. Um following the city standards to construct a  sidewalk along Lewisburg Pike. uh this sidewalk   would ultimately one day probably be removed or  destroyed when Lewisburg Pike is constructed in   the future. Uh they're asking that uh this  sidewalk be deferred until sometime in the   future. Um when we wrote the modification of  standards, we hadn't heard back from staff  

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uh about their um thoughts on not constructing  the sidewalk on Lewisburg. And tonight,   the church would like your consideration that uh  they would construct this sidewalk when Lewisburg   Pike is constructed or within 10 years, whichever  is is sooner. Uh they would like to postpone that   um to a point in time where we think that  it's more reasonable that Lewisburg Pike   would be constructed to uh to improve uh  for greater traffic volumes. Um, with that,   I'm here with Bill Wellins, uh, representing  Fellowship Bible Church, and we're happy to answer   any questions that you may have. All right. Thank  you. Any comments on this applicant? Any thoughts?   Anyone? Go ahead. Question, sir. Uh, by delaying  this, how do we guarantee that the will be added   less as far as court if they run into financial  situation when they can no longer afford to   install these mod these requirements code. What's  what's the guarantee that they'll get installed specific to to all three? Your question specific.  You're basically asking to I think on the um on   the connector to the north, the driveway  to the north, um the neighbor there is so   strongly against it and that's what benefits.  You know, it's one of those things where,   you know, we want to do what we what we can to  benefit the city to connect. We're not trying   to get out of anything for us. It's more about  that that their desire to do that. Provide the   easement so a developer can come in and still do  it. All those things, but not build it today. So,   it's it's not really so much about how we're how  we would fund it or not fund it. We we're there.   We're at the table. Uh it's not huge dollars  in that case with the with the connection to   the north. And so we'd be willing and open to talk  about any sort of thing that kind of binds that or  

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connects that or helps us, you know, set in place  something if you guys got ideas or whatever to to   make sure you feel comfortable with that happening  in the future if and when they sell. They've been   there forever. They're saying they'll they'll  never sell it. They don't they don't want to be   um they don't want this thing to happen, but we  all know it could happen in the future, which is   to your point. And so we'd be open to conversation  about that. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Sure. Anyone?   Are there any other sidewalks along that route? I  um at 1500 ft. There are no other sidewalks. So,   we're going to uh require constructing 1500 ft  right now. Yeah. I can support the modification   of standards. All three or specific one? Well,  the sidewalk issue. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Um   the I have no problem with the connection to the  north. Is that um there's also is this a scenic   corridor? Is this in the scenic corridor overlay?  I believe it is in a vision Franklin. If it's not,   it should be. I believe it is. And I believe  there's extra setbacks there. And this connection   gets kind of close to it on the northern property  as well. So that that is a concern of mine, which   is one reason why I would say uh delay this um  would be okay because and maybe it's right on it,   but even still in the future if that northern  partial developed, I don't know that that   connection may maybe that's not the bet. I mean,  you're going to set aside the right away, but I'm   good to press pause on that one. The and the other  two. Um the other the only thing um on Lewisburg   you know we we want the sidewalk connectivity  to to because one day there will be sidewalks  

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there I would guess or a multimodal path if T  dot comes through and does this. Um so you know   we had a media in the previous meeting we talked  about you know payments in lie of for sidewalk   Um, so there there are probably a couple  ways to achieve some of the things, you know,   that everybody wants, but um but I would  be supportive of all of these. All right. Go ahead. Uh, Lewisburg Pike does not  have a scenic corridor overlay. Yes,   Commissioner Williams. Yeah, I would say for um  yeah, for modification uh was it? Yeah, the the   northern easement. I think I'm okay with that.  Um especially if it's going to be easement, who   knows? It's just kind of negot, you know, saying  that in a legal way that you can connect. Um, as   far as the other two, um, I do see kind of the the  want for not putting that sidewalk on Lewisburg   Pike, especially if they're going to widen it and  it's just going to get blown out and then it'll   have to just be redone at some point. So, I think,  you know, the thought process on that makes a lot   of sense. Let's just delay it. Not eliminate it,  just delay it. Um, because I know a sidewalk to   nowhere is a no, you know, a thing until it gets  developed next to it. Um, and I think I have a   little bit of the same attitude too on about the  one that goes from Lewisburg Pike all the way um   to the church is that it's not really needed until  you have development adjacent. So and you know if   that were something that were to happen later at  the same time with the other one I think with both   of these it would be just to make sure that you  know that's structured in such a way that again   if financial means happen and for some reason it  can't be built to ensure that that is say you know  

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brought up to to standards and and that sidewalk.  So, just for clarity on that, if I might make one   comment, would that be okay? Sure. On that. Yeah.  Thanks. Um, we do have sidewalks all around the   building. We have handicap parking with sidewalls  all ADA accessible all around the building. We're   just asking for the modification for the 1500 ft  because it's it's uh it's long, it's expensive,   it's those sorts of things and and open to  considering things for the future. But it's not   like there's no sidewalks. We don't have an ADA  requirement from the from the road to come up on   a sidewalk all the way to our building because of  the amount of parking and all the sidewalks around   the building. I just want everybody to understand  that it's not getting out of sidewalks. It's just   the one that goes just I'm not sure this makes  sense in terms of what we're after as a community   when we've built so much landscape and green  grass and all that stuff out front. Okay. Any   barn? Yeah. the the connection to be installed  by developer of northern property. Explain that   a little bit better than what that what that is.  So you're saying that the property that's north of   that will be installing what I because I I think  most of the time that you heard me say I think   connectivity is extremely important and when you  have that opportunity what generally happens on   that is if you don't stub it out now while it's  being developed there'll be something that will   come up in a year two years 5 years or whatever  that uh there'll be somebody there that won't   they'll be truly opposed to that whether it's the  church they don't want to tear up their grass they   don't have any reason there's no real reason for  the church to do that right after the development   is already developed this is a request by the  neighbor uh that we bring this forward and we're  

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trying to accommodate that request um they believe  or in their mind that by building this um stub   connection to the property line it invites others  down that path closer to their property line.   It's within their their viewshed um out toward  Lewisburg Pike and we're looking to accommodate   that. They've said that um they would prefer  it's their preference that that connection not   be constructed until such time as their property  is developed which might not say again ever happen   which is not going to happen. automate parts.  Yep. Two two quick questions here. If we can pull   up slide modification request three. Uh and I'm  okay not putting in a sidewalk, which is actually   modification number four. There are no other  sidewalks. I've just Google mapped and verified   and I drive that corridor on a regular basis. So,  I'm fine with four on three. Would you explain   uh where it goes from Lewisburg up to um it looks  like uh where we're talking about taking off   modification of standard number two. Mhm. Where  it makes a little left bend and then it picks   back up. Is that a removal of a sidewalk? Because  I try to zoom in. what that pink dotted line that   goes from the far left of the page up to where  that those two 90° turns are. Let me zoom in. And this is on the uh I'm sorry,  it's Yeah, it's request number three. I just want to zoom in close enough where people  can see it map. Okay. This doesn't show what   you're talking about, but I know what you're  talking about where it goes up to that driveway  

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connector, then 90s over to the other side and  then on around sidewalk, right? Oh, does it? Okay,   great. Um, that's just pure uh related to um  terrain and utility work that it needed to   come up that way and then cross to continue on to  the back of the property. There's no removal of   sidewalk there. It's just the the way that the  land sits and how to come back across and stay   on sidewalk. It also brings you to the inside  of the campus without encroaching Mrs. Cross's   house who's still there. So, at that point, past  her house or right out her house, it comes inside   of the property and then people are protected from  all traffic through the rest of the property into   the quad and that sort of thing. There are future  parking there. There'd be a sidewalk there, etc.   Okay. I'd like to add to that, too. The phase one  includes the main building that you see here that   says connection and the uh administrative offices.  The parking for those will be behind the building.   It'll be here in the back. The parking that's  shown here along the northern boundary, that's   in a future site plan. It's not currently in the  site plan today. And so that red dash line is   intended to remove this sidewalk until such time  as that parking is constructed. If that parking   is constructed. So okay. And the the followup is  if the the neighbor that's on the north that's   requesting a modification of standard number two.  Uh just since we're talking about delaying this   and putting it out there, if you can maybe include  that letter from that resident, I think that would   be great to include in the future. And since I  mentioned residents, chair, if I could ask one   more question. Sure. I've actually received  some complaints from some county residents   that reside at uh 2534 St. James Drive and also  2530 St. James. And this is in regards to the  

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construction. And I know that Bill, I think you  and I actually spoke on the phone and I know that   the construction team is out there and they're  trying to abide by all of the codes and ordinances   that Franklin has in place. My only uh ask is  because even though this is a county resident,   we want to represent all that reach out to us  is that you and your construction team and your   project team make sure that we're still following  all those guidelines and whenever possible to,   you know, be the best neighbor possible as uh  you move this forward. Yeah, glad to. Thank you.   Anyone else? All right, I'll finish up with a few  thoughts on the modification standard number four,   the Lewisburg parallel sidewalk. I would not do  that now. I think those dollars ought to be put   in a bank for the city to use at a later date. Uh  modification number three, that's the connection   from Lewisburg all the way up to the building.  That is the one I would I think needs to be done   because you're going to have all the landscaping,  everything done and nice along that road and then   at sometime in the future tear it all back up  to build a sidewalk. I think that one probably   should be done now. And then modification number  two, that northern cross connection. I don't,   you know, we don't have a site plan for that  northern property. May not ever get one,   but there's no magic location to where that  access needs to be. We just need access. I would   move it down to somewhere where you're showing  that proposed parking and that way the burden   to you to build it is very small and then you've  solved the problem. It's not a big burden on you   to build it. We get access sometime in the future  and you're using that area for parking until then.   So that that's how it's solved number number two.  Thank you. Anybody else? Sure. One more. Who on   modification number four? Who would pay for the  sidewalk if Lewisburg highways widen? Church.  

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Church would pay for it at that time. Church would  pay for it at that time. It' be a T dot project.   A T dot project. You know, we did the same thing  on Hillsboro Road Franklin. It was renovated many   years ago. Excuse me. We delayed the installation  of the sidewalk because we made the road was going   to have something coming down the pipeline  eventually and that's when the sidewalks were   installed. A lot of kids were miserable through  those years because it took a lot longer to get   installed than you know anticipated. There's  nobody walking Lewisburg. No, but they are   walking Frankly Hill Road frankly now. That's  a little different. I understand. But I'm just   saying we've done that before. Yep. Since that is  a public sidewalk, we can investigate whether it   qualifies for fees in lie of as well, which could  then be used when the T dot project moves forward. All right. No one else. Good. Oh, one more. Then  we need to move on. Thought about this, but yeah,   kind of what you were saying for that sidewalk. I  think um for the the long one from Lewisburg Pike   to the building, what I don't want to happen is  that they do the road improvements on Lewisburg   Pike, maybe new development comes in, and then  you have um you know, more people from that local   area, going to church, going to kids activities  where you have kids trying to, you know, go on   their bike or walk down that thing in lane with  traffic. So, I think from a safety standpoint,   when you get to that point where you get people  pedestrian, that you're going to really want it.   Yeah. So that's helpful. Thank you. All right.  Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Item number   two, discussion of development plan proposing  230 multif family units and two modification of   standards, windows, and foundations on 7.03 acres  located at the northwest corner of Interstate   I65 and Goose Creek bypass at 2048 Goose Creek  bypass. And this is the Goose Creek in PUD. Staff.  

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Um, yes, this um this PUD will most likely  change names um the next by the next time   that you see it. Um, but at present, staff  are not supporting the two MOS requests   um due to lack of information being provided at  initial submittal here. Let me pull this up here.   MOS number one is a request to allow windows and  fiber cement to be recessed 3/4 34s in from the   facade aso as opposed to the required 3 in. Staff  requests that images of windows recessed at 3/4 in   with the same material as proposed be provided  so that staff can evaluate whether there's   uh still a flat appearance along the facade or  whether the proposed windows still provide depth   and dimension along the facade plane. At this  juncture, staff doesn't believe that a recessed   window of only 3/4s in meets the intent of the  zoning ordinance. MLS number two is a request to   reduce the minimum finished floor elevation  to zero as opposed to 18 in. Staff supports   accessibility while meeting um the as much of  the zoning ordinance as possible. So, we have   to ask for more information. Um we have asked for  more information on the location and the number of   units where the MOS would apply. Staff also has  some concerns when it comes to the elevations.   While development plan elevations are conceptual  in nature, the applicant did not address any of   the architectural comments made by staff prior  to initial submitt. The zoning ordinance requires   facade facade variety and facade articulation  for multifamily building types. The conceptual   elevations do not differentiate facads so as to  meet the requirements of the zoning ordinance.   They do not appear to be comprised of two or more  distinct adjacent buildings. As a result of the   architecture not meeting the requirements of the  zoning ordinance, the intent of Envision Franklin  

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is also not being met. Regional commerce areas  have a high level of visibility along I65 and   arterial streets, which are important gateways  into Franklin. New development should have   integrated designs and cohesive architecture that  fits within the context of the corridor. and staff   is concerned that the elevations that we've seen  thus far do not rise to that level. Um while the   applicant is did provide you with elevations, um  staff has not had sufficient time to review and   therefore I can't comment on the updates made.  Um that's all for staff. Thank you. Applicant   for this one. Hi again. My name is Greg Gamble and  I'm representing Madison Capital. Unfortunately,   my client had a situation tonight was  not able to attend, but he's asked me   uh since we're on the agenda to please proceed  forward and um so I plan to do that tonight. Um   this property was purchased by Madison Capital  several years ago. This is not the first time   you've seen or or discussed uh this property.  They purchased it uh as a regional commerce 12   uh base zone district. They had an approved site  plan for storage facility which their uh financing   partner said they must proceed forward with. They  knew that uh multif family was a byite use in the   uh RC12. uh but by proceeding forward with  the storage facility they lost that by right   because then the storage facility was an existing  development as opposed to proposed development and   you can only utilize the multif family in the  RC12 when you're proposing it along with other   commercial uses. So, uh, they came to the plan  commission, um, requesting special consideration  

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in Envision Franklin to allow for a standalone  multif family development due to limited access,   a restricted access from Goose Creek bypass, its  proximity to the mixeduse development of Berry   Farms Town Center, and that special consideration  was approved. This is the circulation plan in this   area. I know that the long lane flyover is  not yet constructed, but it is um underway.   Properties are being purchased. Uh there is  a lot of residential or a lot of connectivity   through the mixeduse development of Berry Farms.  One unique thing about this property is that it   does sit at the dead end of Old Paytonville Road.  The access to Goose Creek bypass has been cut off.   And to access this property, you don't have to  drive through the residential portions of Berry   Farms. Um, you come in through where the hotels  are uh to access. So, the the other thing that is   um special about this property is that it has  really great pedestrian connectivity back to   Berry Farms Town Center where people can walk to  work, walk to the grocery store, ride their bike.   It really is a part of the mixeduse community  of of Berry Farms. This is the the property the   aerial photograph as exists today. The area  that you see here that's fully treed is a   um waters of the state protected stream and  has 60oot buffers on both sides of it. Those   that tree canopy there will remain and that  buffer adjacent to Berry Farms area will remain.   The uh storage facility is under construction  at the end of uh Old Paytonville Road and the   proposed development will be where you're seeing  some land disturbance. That's where they had a   lay down yard when building the storage facility.  This is the proposed site plan. You can see that  

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we have hidden the parking in the middle of  the building and we've placed our amenities   uh really at either end. On the north side of the  building is a a swimming pool. um along with pool   deck on the south end of the building adjacent to  Goose Creek Bypass will be a pocket park uh tucked   in between the the buildings in that location.  Um after receiving some comments from staff, our   architect said, "Let's take a look back at Berry  Farm's precedence. Let's look at uh the mixture of   um materials, uh the character of these buildings.  We know that we want to have a flat roof on the   building so it doesn't appear taller than it  does as a a flat roof building. Um, this is   the proposed architecture. You have uh additional  photographs in front of you tonight. Sometimes the   paper is a little bit easier to see than these  screens, so I wanted to print them out for you   on 8 and 1 half by 11 so you could see them. Uh,  this is a corner angle taken from uh I65 and Goose   Creek bypass. Looking back to the corner, you see  the pocket park on the left side. Uh the next view   is um uh kind of looking into that um pool area  at the other end of the building. Um picking up   on kind of where those amenities are. Uh some  of the reasons why we want that uh finished   floor elevation to be at the um ground level is 14  accessibility so we can have uh ADA accessibility   in and out of the building. Um but also to kind  of reduce the overall height by by that much as   well. Um with that happy to answer any questions  that you may have. Uh I guess first thing will you   address the uh recess window concern of staff  first? the recess window. Uh our architect um   is working on providing some samples and some  better photographs and some imagery on that.  

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I don't have that for you tonight at the joint  conceptual workshop. Um and it may be that we   um proposed an alternative, something different.  So, okay. Anybody else comments on this one?   Yeah, for the recess window, I know um a couple  of developments through the city of Franklin   uh especially on the board in Batten they'll  have that a little more shallow like I know in   uh North Mcuan those apartments there are  certain areas um but I would say you know if if   it is something you're requesting um kind of the  images I see it's a lot of board bent and a lot   of sighting so I'd say if you know it's going to  be in areas there's areas that maybe it makes more   sense but if you do the entire building like that  it does kind of flatten it and you know with the   current concern concern with staff and everything.  So if they're looking at that, you know, there are   certain areas, you know, the tower aspects, okay,  but you know, the rest isn't necessarily brick   where you naturally get that depth and the variety  on the elevations. And I'm not an architect, but I   understand there's some new code requirements that  really require some additional insulation that   kind of pushes that wall out a little bit further.  There can be um not necessarily but sometimes they   do put insulation outboard of the framing. Um and  then that can give uh depending where you set your   windows can give you a little bit more but not  necessarily. I think we just need to sharpen our   pencils and come back with a better answer one  way or the other. So we'll do that. All right. Um, this is very highly visible on 65 and so  I would just say um just I think you better   get one of those those uh commercial pencil  sharpeners and and pencil the uh the the it   just doesn't I just is not really you know I think  about that one that you're coming into Nashville   it's the worst and it's the worst and everybody  knows the worst and for the 30 years we're going   to drive into Nashville. We're going to see that  apartment complex and be like that's the worst.  

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And I don't and I don't want this is that kind  of of location. Now that doesn't mean it can't   be board and batten and it can't be three/4 of an  inch recessed windows and whatnot. I just think   there needs to be some attempt and effort put  into by the architect to do something other than   um what might be stood up in anywhere USA because  this is just a prime corner and I think I think   you understand that. I'm sure the applicant does  as well. So that will have a big play in what   um but scale I mean I don't have the units um  readily available 230 230 you know this is not   a bad spot for uh multif family in my opinion  um right by the interstate uh I don't the use   is not a problem I think it's the traffic's not a  problem there either I don't believe um with the   where it's where it's located I think it'll be  work out fine but I think it's just a matter of   making sure that this is right  concept for the location. Okay, thanks sir. So this is uh right here in Ward 3  and I've met with several people and sat down   with Madison Capital as well. Uh I've got big  concerns for this corner. Uh so much so that when   I sat down with them and saw the initial review  that um I actually expressed my disappointment   about how the storage facility looks on as  you're approaching it driving southbound   on the interstate and how it lights up and how  it is a big box sitting right there. So I have   expressed the challenge of uh I I don't like the  MOS number one. I think it will look like a box   if the windows aren't recessed. I've got concerns.  I understand the need for MOS number two. Uh when   you're looking at the backside where the pool is  and things like that, but I've got concerns about  

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how if it's level with the floor, it's going  to be very very boxy. And I've gone as far as   after my meeting with Madison Capital, I actually  reached out to staff and asked them to sit down   and talk with staff about what can we do to make  this building look more like the other buildings   surrounding it. Barry Bole has invested a lot of  time, energy, and effort on the design, theme,   and look and feel of their buildings, and there's  a great opportunity for this Madison Capital Group   to have something very similar. But if it comes  forward the way that it is, this is a gateway,   and we're going to, as Alderman Bagot just  referenced, for 30 years, I think it could   be longer that we're sitting here looking at now  two boxes with that have been poorly designed. So,   um, with that, you know, we're also dealing with  height concerns and ma and size concerns that   massing. And I understand we're not talking  about a 12-oot building. We're talking about   a six-story building right here. But with  what we've got right now, the concern when   you exit going southbound and you look to your  right, it's going to be two large structures and   then it's going to open up. And I don't know  if that's what we're looking for right now.   So, I've challenged from the landscape architect  side of it. How do we really get more more green,   more life, more openness in that area right there?  Maybe a little bit of a different design with some   scaling, with some stacking and everything. Um,  but these are things that are known that have   been expressed to me and I want to make sure the  planning commission hears it for me as the ward   alderman for this gateway. Okay. Anyone else? All  right. Thank you. Thank you. Item number three,   discussion of a development plan proposing  184 dwelling units and 77,025 square ft of   office commercial space and proposing four  modification of standards signage building   orientation on 20.33 acres located at 318 Franklin  Road and extending to Harpath Industrial Court and  

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this is a Harbath Village PUD staff. Thank  you. This loads really quick. There we go.   Um so this uh project has been to one joint  conceptual before but they are back um just   to kind of uh review everything as well as some  of the changes that have been made since the past   presentation. Um as the vice uh chair mentioned  this development does include 184 uh dwelling   units for the multif family building style uh as  well as over 77,000 square ft of commercial use.   Um with that they are requesting four modification  of standards. Three of them relating to signage   uh one of them relating to uh building details. So  the first MOS is for um to allow irregular shaped   signage. Uh this one has been pretty common with  past projects and we are recommending approval.   Uh MOS number two is to is a request to allow  one canopy sign per tenant and may be allowed   to extend above or below the canopy. Currently,  that's one uh canopy sign per uh per facade. Um   so, this is one per tenant. MOS number three is  a request to allow one vertical blade sign per   commercial mixeduse building where residential is  on upper floors over commercial and permitted if   other hanging signage is present. Uh currently,  that is one uh vertical blade sign per frontage   uh located at an intersection and only when there  is no other hanging signage uh located on that   building. Uh MOS number four is a request to allow  buildings to have frontage at an angle uh rather   than parallel. And there is only one building uh  on the uh development plan that has this specific   request. Um it's just at an angle creates more of  a green space in front of that building. So for   the first MOS, we are recommending approval. For  MOS numbers 2 through 4, we are recommending um  

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or we're not recommending anything at this point.  We're requesting additional language or modifying   language um for that modification of standards  uh specifically for the signage to kind of um   uh detail specific maximum number allowed and  specific location uh for the vertical signs and   for the MOS relating to uh building frontage and  having that building at an angle. Uh just showing   on the plan more details about how that space  is going to be activated. Um, this did receive   a preliminary recommendation uh of approval  from the historic zoning commission. And just   as a reminder, every signage um request still has  to go through the uh historic zoning commission   for a COA because this is in the overlay. Um  so even with these MOS's, if they're approved,   every individual sign has to go through our uh  our historic zoning commission. Um let's see.   There was a traffic study done uh with this plan  and it does show failures in the surrounding   areas. Uh there is a meeting scheduled with  the developers and our engineering engineering   department on Monday to discuss potential  solutions. So specific questions uh to that I   will direct you to Jimmy Weisman. Happy answering  questions. Thanks. All right. Thank you. Applicant   for this one. Hello. My name is Greg Gamble. I get  three tonight. Um, and uh, I'm very excited about   this one. Uh, our team has been working very  hard and um, over the past uh, 9 to 10 months,   we've had multiple meetings with the historic  zoning commissioners uh, not only talking to the   DRC but also the historic zoning commission.  Uh, we've had multiple site visits and uh,   really working to make sure we get this uh, dialed  in correctly. the um uh portion of the property   that you're seeing here in red, this northern part  is within the historic uh overlay. There are three  

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additional properties that front on to Harpath  Industrial Court that are not in that overlay. So,   there's some distinction there as to what they  have purview over. Um but we have been really uh   listening and paying attention to uh their input  and their conversation. Um at the uh beginning   of 2025, the planning commission um adopted the  factory district and included these properties   as a part of the factory district. The green  circle that you're seeing there in the middle is   conservation policy to protect that hilltop. Shown  here uh outlined in orange is the hilltop hillside   overlay. The dashed orange line that's further  out is the hilltop hillside buffer that 500 feet   on top of this hill. Um during the Civil War was a  what's called a Rodan. In the bottom two pictures,   you can see those articulated on these uh Civil  War maps. A Rodan is kind of a U-shaped fort. It   had an opening uh on what you would consider the  safe side and the defenses faced out. And so in   this particular instance, they faced north. There  were multiple roadans uh all throughout the city   of Franklin around uh Fort Granger, around Roer's  Knob, and this is one of the those locations.   Um, my client hired an archaeologist to go  out and metal detect the entire property. Um,   they found square nails, they found uh,  horseshoes. They did not identify with metal   detector any Civil War related uh, artifacts.  But they did discover on the church's property,  

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the church just to the north of us, not on  this property, but just to the north, near the   railroad tracks, a sistern that was constructed  by soldiers uh for water during the Civil War. As a result, uh we are proposing to set aside  6.49 acres as park space. Uh we did approach the   city of Franklin parks department asking them if  they wanted us to consider this for a public park   um owned and maintained by the city of Franklin  and they at this time have said no. Uh so moving   forward it would likely be privately owned uh  maybe with public access uh over it. We do plan to   have a trail head located closer to where there's  convenient parking uh signage here that would kind   of describe the history of the property and then  uh walking paths up and around the hill. I imagine   this would be a very attractive place for Fourth  of July fireworks in the future. This proposal   includes 77,025 ft of commercial. that commercial  would include office, retail, restaurants, cafes,   personal service uses, spas, day salon, salons,  um, and also worker spaces. Um, my client owns one   of the buildings, the commercial spaces at Jameson  Station. They're smaller, uh, 3,000 ft² spaces.   Those are very difficult to find in Franklin  for small businesses. It's a lot easier to   find a 25,000t office space to rent, but to find a  2500 foot, 3,000 foot, 3500t office space is very   difficult. They're focused on uh those kind of  users in these commercial spaces here and uh see   that uh intentional relationship with the factory  in the factory district. This does include 184   residential units, some for sale, some for rent.  This is an elevation of uh one of the buildings.  

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Um there are a collection of three buildings that  back up to the railroad track. These are sized um   intentionally to resonate with Jameson Station's  buildings. So here you have twotory town homes   over commercial just like a Jameson station. The  parking area for these buildings is located behind   and alongside the railroad track. This drive here  goes on the bottom floor of the parking deck. So,   this deck extends all the way over. This goes  uphill and then this drive accesses the top of   the deck. So, uh the fire department has asked  for an area of refuge that their trucks can pull   into in the event that they need to fight a fire.  And that's why the deck doesn't extend all the   way over that area as well. It stops short. So,  we have been working very closely with the city   of Franklin's uh sewer, water, storm water, um  fire department just to make sure that we've got   something that they can endorse and support  in the future. As we go down the block, oh,   let me point out one thing real quick. Um, this  building that you're looking at here sits on this   corner and that is modification of standards  number four where the building is not parallel   to the street. Instead, we've pulled it back and  we have an opportunity for public art for an open   space. This could be um, you know, park space  for residents to use as well. As we go then,   um, this is a a view looking at the front  elevation of these buildings. You see modification   of standards number three over on the side of  this building with that vertical blade sign that   uh is really signage for the residential. Uh,  you can see that vertical blade sign in this   image as well. That's also that's that  modification of standards number three.

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So, this shows the attention to detail and the  pedestrian level where we'll have uh the shops,   the commercial uses. This is the middle  building. Uh we've got an entrance drive   to the parking deck on the left, an entrance  drive to the parking deck on the right. Historic   uh um zoning commission uh talked a lot about  us breaking down the masses of the building,   making this look like it's a collection of  buildings built over time. And I think you   can see that articulated uh in these images.  Uh this building to the left is designed to be   commercial on the ground floor with residential  condo suites on the second floor above. In the   middle of the image, you see a one-story kind of  restaurant cafe building uh that might have um   rooftop uh outdoor seating. On the other side  of that then is uh some additional commercial   space designed here with a little bit more  of an industrial character. Envision Franklin   uh factory district calls for uh industrial style  architecture and so we're starting to see that to   historic it was very important that we kind of  transition from a more of a residential look   and feel to that industrial. So, uh, as we start  getting closer to Harpath Industrial, we start   seeing buildings that really resonate more in the  architectural character of the factory itself. Uh,   pulling from the imagery of of Jameson Station  in those elevations. So, you can start to see   that the style of architecture moving from north  to south is really kind of changes and evolves in   this master plan. Uh, which is is very unique. Um,  here we're maintaining three stories height. Um,   we have garage access uh on the front elevation  of this building. As we turn the corner then,  

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um, and now we're driving toward the hill. We're  driving in toward uh the historic district. We   have some pedestrian refuge area. This is a  pocket park. It's a open space area. On the   left side of this open space, we have access  into the lower level of a parking deck. on   the upper side. Then we have access to the upper  level of the parking deck. There are no internal   ramps in in this deck as well. The lower level of  the deck is accessed from Harpath Industrial. The   um uh upper level of the deck is then accessed  from behind alongside the back here. So there's   no internal ramps in there. We're using the land  and the kind of the rolling hills of Tennessee to   get that access to those parking areas. Um, with  that, uh, I'm here with Evans Welburn, uh, with   the ownership as well, and we're happy to answer  any questions that you may have. All right. Thank   you. Questions, comments? Anybody have anything  on this one? Go ahead, Commissioner May. Um,   walk me through how those parking decks operate.  Again, you see there's no internal ramp. So if you   if you enter the bottom then and there's no spots  then you would need to pull back out and go around   to the upper ramp then so you can't jerk it.  That's right. But really the intent is that lower   level of the deck is where we have parking for the  commercial uses. Upper level of the deck really   meant more for the residential. So I think you'd  see some separation there. Okay. Just want to make   sure I understood that. All right. Thank you, Mr.  Chair. Uh Mr. Mr. Scramble, just a quick question.   You had said that you had offered uh the park to  the parks department, but the parks department   said no on that. We uh when we were going through  the Envision Franklin, uh no, sorry, not that's   not true. When we were going through the historic  zoning commission and the DRC, the question came  

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up. So, we asked and they said initially, I don't  think that we would want it, but I I mean, I'm   sure anything's on the table if that conversation  needs to proceed forward. Okay. Is that something   from staff? Is that something that uh our parks  department would be open to in the future or   We can continue to have those conversations.  Typically, it's regarding a size of the property   and how much it c would cost to add maintenance  costs and things like that. Um but we can continue   to have that discussion with the parks department  and see what their rationale is. Okay. And part of   my question actually aligns with where the access  drive is now onto Franklin Road. Um it leads   directly across the street to uh Harllanddale. Um  you know potential crosswalk right there uh access   points. Um the other question that I have here  is is there any consideration to redesigning the   Franklin Road access the Franklin Road access  road uh to run parallel to Morningside Drive. Uh that point on um Franklin Road is at the  high point of the hill and has the best sight   lines in either direction. Um I don't know when  Morningside Drive was constructed. uh J may know,   but it really doesn't have the accommodation for  sightelines that uh would be appropriate to meet   city standards. Yeah. The reason why I ask is  I've seen uh in a couple of places around town,   we have uh I think some signs that say maybe  a blind driveway, you know, to slow down. Um,   I I know I've looked at this before and actually  made the recommendation that instead of putting   the access road uh there and circling around  or curving around the preserved park is to run   it parallel to Morningside Drive. Uh, and then  to have some type of signage that would have a  

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blind drive access as you approach as you come  over that null area. But that's one thing that   I would I would recommend as far as trying to  preserve more of that park area so that the   access road just doesn't go down the middle of  it. And then the last question that I have is   uh regarding the height of the buildings in the  back. Will the three stories be the same height   as the null height or will it be a little bit  lower in the back? It's actually lower. Um and   um we've produced a video that we can play that  um uh actually shows a driveby going down Franklin   Road. When we come to planning commission, if  you'd like, we can play that video. If you'd   like for us to play it at the Bulma work session,  we can certainly do that as well. Okay. Thanks. Go ahead. Um tell us a little bit  more about about the traffic. I mean,   I I I think I see your point on the drive. I  think if you went parallel with um Morningside,   if somebody tries to get out on Morningside  the same time, that that'd be difficult. Um so,   I don't know if tying it into Morning Side's even  an option or something to consider. Um but it's   mentioned that the traffic study had a number  of failures. Sounds like you're going to work   through those, but could you give us maybe  a highlight of of where those failures were   identified at for right now?  Matt Hatcher in Liberty Pike. Mac Hatcher and Liberty Pike and Liberty Pike.  Oh yeah. Okay. Mac Hatcher and Liberty Pike.   Mac Hatcher and Franklin Road. Okay. This is  pretty far pretty far away from the project.   Yeah. Are there other concerns, Jimmy? I  don't want to overspeak or underse like we   Sorry. There you are. There we go. Red means  go. Um, red means go. Like u Joey mentioned,  

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we're meeting on Monday to to look at any and all  solutions for for some of the impacts. A lot of it   background simply just as more density around the  city comes in, more people are coming to downtown,   which is a good thing, but we want to  get them here uh easily. So, um again,   we'll we'll look at that Monday um and come back  to planning commissioning board with with some   solutions hopefully. And it would be helpful to  know if if that traffic is is which component of   this development. Is it the residential component?  Is the commercial component driving more more of   that traffic? That'd be really helpful to  understand as well. Okay. We can break that   out if you'd like. Go ahead. A few things. Uh  thank you for saving the red. Appreciate that.   It's a I don't think you had a choice because  it's in the hilltop, but it's very gracious to do   extended like you have done in areas where it was  not necessarily required. And so that that's going   to be nice. Uh whether it's public or private, it  it's going to be a great asset to the community   uh into this. The storm water location on the  front side is a bit of a concern. I know when   we start putting storm water in on the sides of  hill slopes, it does change the the way of that   the way that works. So, I don't know if that's if  there's another location or staff guided you to   that location or if there's a way, you know, you  see what I'm talking about there. A Morning Side,   the little triangle between Franklin Road, Morning  Side, and then the new road. I do. As as planners,   we don't um size all the storm water elements  prior to submitting a development plan. It's   conceptual, I'm sure. But I'm going to write  that comment down. We'll have conversations   with our civil engineer to see if there's there's  a because you know what we have is we're coming   in on Franklin Road and you know it's nice that  nothing's developed there, but when you if you  

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come in you cut in and it's to have the whole and  you have to build up to hold the storm water and   it's a so there's pro if there's other locations  on the site I think that would be ideal to keep   that as as preserved as possible. The back of the  building on Harpath Industrial There's a part of   the deck where that seems to it might be exposed.  I'd like to see make sure that the back of that   building on the east side of the the deck there on  Harpath Industrial that building that side needs   to be you know aesthetically Yeah. Right there  back one. So that deck is at the same one more   back. I'm talking about a different this one right  here. So if you look through those trees there   Yep. Up up up up where the the Yeah, right there.  So this actually shows you on the next slide   here the top of the deck. And it is at the same  elevation as the sidewalk and the same elevation   as the three buildings that are around it,  including the single family um one-story building   that's on Morningside Drive. All of that is sits  at the same elevation. where it changes is it it   drops from that deck down to Harpath Industrial by  a 10 or 11 ft. And that's why we're getting that   other level of parking deck underneath the ground.  Wonderful. I'm talking about the building on that   deck and just making sure that doesn't look like  like a back of house apartment complex back. I   think that needs to look aesthetically congruent  with the rest of the of the development cuz you're   kind of coming in off Franklin Road. you're going  to see that and I don't want it to look like a,   you know, I think neither would the applicant.  Um, the other thing was this traffic study. This   is just a challenge because I I drive this road  every day, multiple times a day, and there's Well,   first of all, it doesn't look like there's  any northern connectivity between uh I don't  

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staff could speak to that. There's no required  northern connectivity here, but there is for   uh for the church that was before us. So anyway,  there's no northern connectivity on this one, but   apparently it's required on Lewisburg. Anyway, we  I I think that we've got a lot of lot of entry and   access points that are coming onto Franklin Road.  And then um Harper Industrial Morning Side, this   new one, the church. Then you've got the factory  which has uh well, you got the gas station. You   got the factory uh where McCall's factory first  entrance, factory second entrance, you know,   you got seven entrances kind of in this or or  places where people can come in and out of traffic   or in and out of properties. And so northern north  south connectivity is going to be really really   important here. uh from Liberty Pike all the way  up through for this thing to work in my opinion   we we have to have north south uh connectivity is  you can't have people however much this traffic   study's saying is going to happen and I'm not  worried it's the people coming in and out but   the people who want to go from here down to the  factory but they have to go out Harpath industrial   and down to the first entrance and then back down  to get to the deck like this is the kind of thing   where for this factory district to work. There  has to be northbound connectivity for something   of this scale to be north. And um I actually like  the direction all of this is is going. I think it   actually works. But I don't know how we would  be responsible if we didn't have north uh south   connectivity all the way in planned for this in  this entire area. This happens to be pretty big.   um not it's not that many units as compared to  other things we're looking at but it's it's a big   shift and if we if we kind of have the factory  north district and then you have factory south  

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district and the only way you can get to it is if  you go out to Franklin Road and down and back I'm   just seeing a headache and for for traffic um and  now we need to encourage and and really require   northbound and southbound uh connectivity and even  up to the north to the church maybe Joey you can   speak to that yeah if I could just clarify um a  northern connection is required um and if it's   up to the applicant if they wish to not have  that connection that would be a modification   of standards um there's a little confusion about  that because that was previously an MOS and that   has since been res removed from this complied  with but it's just not on the plan understood   um yeah so that that and then the last thing  was the parking count standards I don't know.   We haven't That's kind of the next level. This  is just joint conceptual, but um I'm going to   be really hesitant to like reduce any parking  standards on something like this because of the   real success of the factory district. And I think  that that we've seen we've we've seen retrofitting   of decks and at the factory. And I really hope  that this uh is going to contemplate frankly   if there is north and southbound connections  and even if there's not the how popular this   would be. So just making sure that we're we're  it's it's going to be adequately parked. Thank   you. Other than that, I think the architecture,  everything looks great. Um came a long way. It   did come a long way. All right. Anyone else?  Okay. I have one final thought on this one.   Uh, first question for staff. Morning sign drive  public or private street? Private private. It is   a private street. Okay. I'd be very careful  making the two roads parallel because you'll   have somebody taking a right turn and the next  person taking a left turn at the same time. If  

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there was a an opportunity to improve Morningside  Drive in in some manner and have that the primary   ingress egress for both those developments,  that would seem to be money well spent. All right, that's it. Thank  you so much. We appreciate it. Item number four, presentation of the  Franklin Transit Master Plan Update. Staff All right. Good evening, Alderman and  commissioners. This is my first time at the joint   uh conceptual workshop. So, I will introduce  myself once I can figure out how to get it into   presentation mode. There we go. All right. Uh  I'm Max Baker, multimotal coordinator with City   of Franklin. Uh I am the staff liaison for the  Franklin Transit Authority and also assist the   city with bicycle and pedestrian concerns. Tonight  I will be providing an update for you guys on the   Franklin transit master plan. This is an effort  that we've been undertaking since about July of   last year. And um what is the transit master  plan? It's a 10-year plan looking to address   the mobility needs of the area and the growth  related challenges that we experience. And we are   ultimately trying to develop a 10-year concept  of what capital investments we will need and what   services we would hope to provide in regards to  transit. So, like I said, uh kicked it off about   July of 2025 and worked on existing conditions,  really understanding how people were moving   around the city of Franklin using transit, using  their automobiles, how that might uh change as  

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a result of any policies that were in place or  um growth that that might be occurring in the   area. had initial outreach in fall and use that  outreach to ultimately establish the vision and   goals and objectives that we hope to accomplish  with this study. We're about to embark on the   second round of outreach uh that will be occurring  really during the month of May and that will take   uh flavor of a largecale public event that  will be May 5th. Uh we're going to call it   Taco Bell Transit and it will be hosted at the  transit center in in uh downtown Franklin be   having free tacos. So hopefully that will entice  people to come out and talk to us about what what   they hope to see Franklin Transit become in the  future. Also going to be uh making an effort to   get out and go where the people are. So uh going  to a touch a truck event. We'll have the trolley   out there and and have a booth. also have a booth  at the state of the city. Try and try and engage   folks there as well as radio and news outlets. Uh  really really trying to to get out in in front of   the people as much as possible as we develop the  draft plan which we will bring back to this body   and Bulma and planning commission over the course  of the next several months and ultimate adoption.   I believe I've got it later um in the slideshow,  but I think it was August. So, what have we done   to this point? Completed initial outreach. That  was what I was talking about in the fall. Uh some   of you participated in that. We did interview each  of the aldermen that were wanting to participate,   all of the uh Franklin Transit Authority board  members. We had very targeted discussion groups.  

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These are with nonprofits and other uh you  know very active users of the transit system.   Uh we hosted community workshops three  across the city and had public surveys,   also surveyed the operators, the the staff  of TMA who is the operator of of Franklin   Transit as well as the writers of of the  buses and on demand services themselves. And what we presented to them was just  an understanding of what those existing   conditions are, what that might look like  in the future, and really what they hoped   uh Franklin Transit to become over the course  of the next 10 years. All of that distilled   down to the vision and goal vision, goals, and  objectives. These were approved by the Franklin   Transit Authority and uh really really boil  down to those core uh bubbles that you see,   improve rider awareness and experience.  These include um reducing barriers like   uh the ability to pay for fairs using a  mobile device or just increasing awareness   of the different types of services that Franklin  Transit offers. Providing accessible mobility   for all residents and visitors. These are  visitors from out of town, out of state,   but these are also visitors that are coming to  work that may just live in in the county nearby.   Strengthen connectivity to local and regional  destinations. This is working with our partners   uh north of us we go and making sure that we have  connections to Nashville or to Murphy'sboro or   potentially in the future to even Spring Hill. Uh  and then finally providing excellent management   and oversight of public transportation system.  This is really accountability and transparency.   So investing in technology that not only lets us  understand how our transit system is performing   but holds us accountable to to the public  dollar, right? Letting them understand where  

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we're performing well, where we're not performing  well, we where we need to make more investment. So the adoption timeline this has been a very  complicated process for me to understand but   tonight is the joint conceptual workshop  where we are letting you know that uh you   know th this process is occurring encouraging you  to participate or to uh let others know that they   they really should uh participate in the May  events that we are scheduling. We will bring   back a draft of the master plan after we get those  public comments incorporated into the master plan   uh at next month's meeting and then we begin  the adoption process of drafts and finals over   June and July and ultimately bring it back to  the Franklin Transit Authority for adoption in   August. That was incorrect earlier. So, how do  you stay informed? You can go to the Franklin   Transit website or you can use the QR code  here. Either we'll take you to a virtual room   where we have all the technical memorandum and  we'll ultimately have the draft plan and final   plan for you to peruse. But with that, I will  answer any questions you might have. All right.   Any questions for staff here? No. Go ahead. The  Bulma representative on the transit authority   and this is the cliffnotes version of all of the  wonderful information that has been uh assimilated   um or assembled uh in in that process and  I'm I'm excited about max and then the   transit authority what we're doing some of the  changes that will come from this but there's   u do participate planning commission as well  I mean this is a will have ripple effects for  

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this transit in our community and already  some good information that has come out of   it. So encourage everyone to participate.  Thanks. Anyone else? All right. Thank you.   Thank you. Item number five, discussion of a  Mercerboro Road corridor planning study staff. Once this loads, get started. Too many pictures. Yeah. Hey. All right. Great. So, um I'm here to speak with you  all a little bit tonight. At the last joint   conceptual workshop, we as staff were tasked  with investigating um going along, you know,   down this road for a Murphy'sboro Road corridor  planning study. So, I wanted to bring forward   um some of the preliminary research  that we've done just so you all can see   uh everything that's happening in the corridor  and put a lot of the information that we have   in different maps and different layers within  our online zoning uh information just here in   one place so everybody can see we can have a  kind of base knowledge um and then I'll bring   forward some next steps for you all. Um so,  let's go ahead and get started. So staff has   brought forward a conceptual study boundary  for this area um that we believe identifies   an area of reasonable uh potential commercial  redevelopment within the corridor. Um generally  

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it's from Matcher Parkway on the western side to  the Clovercraftoft neighborhood um on the east. Now within this potential study area um the  envision Franklin design concept is almost   exclusively regional commerce. Um there is a small  portion of civic and wreck which is fire station   number two. Um however, as you can see, the vast  majority is regional commerce. And within regional   commerce, Envision Franklin supports uh obviously  regional commercial uses, local commercial uses,   um continuum of care, hotels, institutional  uses, and mixeduse multifamily. Now, that's the Envision Franklin uh design  concepts. However, the zoning districts are   a little bit more diversified. Um there are four  zoning districts. Civic institutional again the   fire station. Um actually office residential  is not on here. Uh that's my color blindness   poking through. Uh that's just to the north um  on North Chapel or North Royal Oaks here. Right   near the residential um neighborhoods there is  some office residential. Um the planned district   here in the soft purple. Um, regional commerce  6 is the dark purple which consumes the vast   majority of the study area as well as the general  office here in blue. Um, the PUDs that do exist   uh have some multifamily condos, some multif  family apartments, there's some town homes and   assisted living. So, the PUDs predominantly  are uh residential of just a varying kind. Now, the land use is a wide patchwork. Um,  we've broken it down a little bit for you   as well. There is, uh, 28% of the study area is  mixed non-residential. So, that could be anything  

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from retail to commercial um, just anything  that's mixed together, as you would imagine   with a lot of like strip centers. There's a  mixture of uses. So, any type of development   like that that does not have a residential  component falls into mixed non-residential.   um specifically retail uses uh takes second place  with 26.4% of the study area. So that is in itself   over 50% and then we drop down into office at  10. So the rest of the land use categories are   significantly lower with over 50% being retail or  some sort of combination of retail and commercial. Um, additionally, we wanted to bring forward  just the height information uh that exists   on the corridor. The vast majority there in  the yellow has a six-story height limit. Um,   and that coincides with the RC6 zoning districts.  Um, the threetory area are the areas zoned   uh general office CI and PD. Now, these height  maximums have been consistent since at least   2008. Um, there was an additional stipulation  in there um that they should not exceed 84 ft.   Staff was able to identify six structures within  the study uh area that are four stories um which   are two hotels, two office buildings, a  storage facility, and the senior living   um at Somer. But there were no structures  over four stories within the boundary. And   um the hospital just outside the boundary  area right over here um is seven stories. We also took a look exactly where the  building footprints for the structures   within this boundary are. There are  305 structures in the project area.  

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Um, and based on a lengthy drive around, staff  was able to identify 10 uh either storefronts   or structures that were available for  rent um or for sale out of the 305.   And if you'll take a look at exactly where these  building footprints are located, you'll get an   a little bit more information about how this  corridor has developed or not developed. Um,   since 2008, the 2008 zoning ordinance began  restricting large parking lots with in frontages,   so between the building and the road. So, as you  can see, a large portion of the structures here   within the study area have very large parking  lots between them and the road, indicating that   a lot of these were developed prior to those  um ordinance and that that regulation being   in place to limit the size of parking lots  between a building frontage and the roadway. Pedestrian connectivity. Um, as we're all probably  aware, I65 acts as a major, um, pedestrian   disconnect for the east and west. Um, and you can  see here with the dark lines, um, those are all   where sidewalks exist today. So, you can see the  inconsistency throughout the boundary area. Uh, so   if we couple the lack of pedestrian infrastructure  with the expansive parking lots that I just   mentioned, um, it really does make non-vehicular  travel both difficult and dangerous. Um, there is   some continuous sidewalks here along Royal Oaks,  both north and south. However, if you are walking   to say Publix, um you can get near there, but  then you need to walk along a non-sidewalk street  

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through an expansive parking lot that also does  not have a sidewalk. Um so it really just makes   pedestrian travel in the area very difficult.  Um, additionally, the boundary does include   five separate intersections within the city's high  injury network from the city's safety action plan,   which I'll be getting to in a little bit, which  also identify not just lack of uh safety for   pedestrians once they get onto a property, but the  lack of safety for pedestrians along the roadway.   So the safety action plan uh from 2025  does identify this area um as one of   five high injury network corridors within  the city. Now this corridor also does have   um five high injury intersections within it. And  of the five high injury corridors within the city,   they cover only 7% of our roadway miles, but  they also include 80% of all of our crashes. Um,   and 76% of all of the fatal and serious injury  crashes. Um, and this specific corridor does have   our second highest annual average daily trips.  So, there are a lot of cars moving. There are   a lot of accidents in this area. Um, and if we  want to encourage pedestrians to be out there,   we need to make it safer. Um, the safety action  plan does have a variety of different uh,   recommendations and counter measures. Um, however,  the vast majority are midterm and not exactly easy   fixes. So, um, it really is a major component  of this study is to look into how we can make   this safer. We know that it is, you know, a T dot  roadway. So that obviously complicates things but   um it is a significant part of the research  that needs to be done. So I do want to I just  

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highlight that this area has been a study  priority for staff for many years. Um and   if there's a majority interest from yourselves  moving forward with a small area planning effort   um we would like to just get started um because  it has been on our radar for a while. So,   in order for us to properly gauge um where we want  to go with this and the direction from you all,   as well as your fellow alderman and commissioners  that are not here with us tonight, staff is going   to put together a short survey for you just  to gauge the priorities uh from yourselves   as well as the direction that you would like us  to take. So, um, our potential next steps again,   obviously to send you out a survey to get some  better direction, um, and further direction on   how you want us to study this. We're looking to  do that within the next handful of weeks. Um, and   then begin public engagement. We will then come  back uh with our findings and a draft Envision   Franklin amendment this fall to uh be potentially  put into Envision Franklin. um at the end of the   year and then follow that up with however that uh  amendment is crafted, potentially including any   sort of um new ordinance or changes to the zoning  ordinance for our annual zoning ordinance cleanup   at the end of 2026. So, I will um leave these next  steps up. I'm happy to answer any questions and   just open it up. All right. Thank you. Okay. So,  normally discussion is between the two bodies, but   we had one resident show up and with a prepared  statement on this topic and I'm going to show a   little of grace and let him speak before we get  into our discussion. So, Mr. Gra, if you come up,  

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state your name and address. Got a minute or so  and then we need to get back to business. Hi. Uh,   yes, my name is Clive Gro. Um, I live at 4240  Warren Road. I'm in the uh unincorporated county   area near Cedar Cedarmont Farms. Um I'm a retired  LA traffic engineer who has reviewed hundreds of   traffic studies, but I feel obliged to inform you  of a potential nightmare on Murphy'sboro Road. The   biggest traffic problem Franklin has is a lack of  east west road capacity across the I65 freeway.   Mchuan Drive will be fully congested in 5 years  when the Ovation Orium develop development opens.   Liberty Pike and Mallerie Royal Oaks is slated for  a massive widening from three lanes to five lane   approaches in all directions. Murphy'sboro  Road at the I65 overpass has desperately   squeezed in more lanes and is still experiencing  delays of 15 to 30 minutes during peak AM and P   uh AM and PM hours with cues in the morning  that extend all the way east to Cloverfield.   Finally, we need to go three miles south to get  to the next overpass at Goose Creek Bypass. So,   what is in store for the future 2030 to 2035?  Uh, there probably won't be any widening of the   overpass. uh completed Ovation Orium and other  developments will double the AM PM traffic and   increase delays across the I65 overpass to 30 to  60 minutes. So, the city of Franklin thinks now  

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is a great time to consider reszoning this whole  Murphy'sboro corridor and increase its density   while not even considering the elephant in the  room, the traffic. What happens if we approve   the Murphy'sboro density corridor? 100% of the  increased traffic generated by new developments   stays on Murphy'sboro Road. And going from mostly  onestory buildings to six stories, you're going to   have a lot of increase. Delays on the overpass  will at least triple. Picture a solid queue of   cars from Arno Road all the way to public square  resulting in thousands hour thousands of hours of   miss family time for our residents and sadly the  deaths of many heart attack and stroke victims who   won't be able to make it to the adjacent hospital  in time. Is this what you really want? If not,   let's demand that any new development along this  corridor cannot generate any additional traffic   until the roads are widened and can accommodate  it. Say no to any reasonzoning and no to increased   density. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Uh, anybody  have comments on staff's presentation? Somebody   Nobody go. No, go ahead. Commissioner Williams,  I think especially looking at this quarter from   a pedestrian safety standpoint is excellent. Um  because you do see quite a bit of people on foot,   uh you know, walking on the grass in those areas  that don't have it. Um and yeah, appreciation of   the incredible I call it the gauntlet, you know,  if you get get through the gauntlet. And so when   you're on pedestrians, I think approaching it,  you know, safety standpoint is huge. So back to   the exception for public comment is it is that  an exception but this isn't being reszoned to  

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six stories just so you know I think there there  it now so what this is is a just so the public   is is clear this is a a small area plan so  that development is we have we have many   other things other than density that we look  at as you all know within a zoning ordinance   or envision Franklin such as like is the parking  in front of the building or behind the building?   There are lots of things like that. And so this  is not a reszoning lest anyone out there think   that we're thinking about reszoning the  entirety of of Highway 96 because of of   various thoughts that have been expressed.  So just very quick, we do small airplan. And it really is to make sure that our documents,  our zoning ordinances, and our envision Franklin   reflect the character of the area that we want  to see um in the future if someone wants to do   something. So already someone could build a  six-story building anywhere in here. In fact,   uh I would think just here's the first comment  uh for the uh study is that six stories is is   probably too high for for for a lot of this  area out as you get away from from uh uh from   Interstate 65. And so that probably is going to be  addressed, I would think, and I think you'll hear   that from the community. So I all my comments were  because sometimes there's misinformation shared   u uh widespread and so wanted to make that  clear. Thank you. Very good. And for staff,   this is a in-house uh study. Okay. Anyone else?  Yeah. Uh I just want to say great job on the   study. I think that what you've been able to break  down. I really appreciate the number of overlays  

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and maps and everything that you've been able  to put together. I think it's very telling when   um when we look at the pedestrian  connectivity, which is on slide eight,   uh how how important having a plan and putting it  together as we're looking at the future is. Uh,   this immediately puts into scope the request that  that I put in at the last Bulma meeting at South   Royal Oaks and Macatcher was to add pedestrian  connectivity right there at that intersection. Um,   there is there's a lot of opportunity here.  There's a lot of growth. I think that if we don't   plan for the future, we're going we're setting  ourselves up for failure. I think that uh also uh   we had the recent installation of the median that  goes along Highway 96 with restrictions of the   U-turns at different intersections to make those  improvements. We haven't even gotten the data   yet on the improvements and decreases of what you  have listed here on page nine. And it's going to   take us a year or two for the police department,  the traffic uh for that ranking to come back to   us. And I think that's just a good example of how  we're doing good improvements in these areas right   now. And we're going to continue to do that. And  I think that adding more sidewalks and widening   some sidewalks and really creating multi-trail  connectivity as we get closer to Machatcher is   going to be extremely important. Uh this is a  10-year approach. I mean, we're in 2026 right   now. We're looking at Machatcher improvements.  It's going to put us out there at 2034. But we   can't wait. We've got to have a plan now. We've  got to start putting things into place. Thank you,   Mr. Chair. Thanks. When else staff, did you  have anything else to add? All good. I would  

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just say be on the lookout um on your city emails,  particularly for um a informal survey. We normally   take forward a resolution to undertake a special  study um that is ultimately either approved by the   planning commissioner or the board. But because  the board, the planning commission, and staff   seem to be all aligned and moving this forward,  we're just going to do an informal survey, make   sure everybody's on the same page. We'll have some  additional questions about priorities. And also,   if you're interested in a stakeholder interview  as we go into the process, um, but it'll be a   very short survey, so we'd appreciate you  getting on that soon as you can when you   receive it. Thank you. All right. Thanks. Any  other business? None. This meeting's adjourned.

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