Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Monday, June 22, 2026

The Franklin Planning Board approved the release of a bond for Tango Estates and a covenant for Aiden Estates. They also approved a site plan modification for 555 King Street and the withdrawal of a definitive subdivision modification for 900 Washington Street. A partial form H for 230 East Central Street was approved with conditions, including holding back five residential units until all outstanding items are completed.

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Board
Meeting Type
Planning Board
Location
Franklin, MA
Meeting Date
June 22, 2026

Transcript

262 sections

1:21Speaker 7

Yeah, we'll go.

1:28Speaker 9

Recording in progress.

1:36 – 2:09Speaker 7

Sorry. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the June 22nd, 2026 Franklin Planning Board meeting. This meeting is audio and video recorded, as well as on Zoom. The Zoom call-in number is 312-626-6799, with a meeting number of 819-647-50662. What we'll do is we'll take public hearings first, Amy, or we'll go to general business?

2:10Speaker 2

General business first, then public hearing.

2:12 – 2:26Speaker 7

Okay. We'll go to general business first. First item of business, this would be a bond release for Tango Estates. If I could go to Amy, Department of Planning, please, for a quick review.

2:27 – 3:00Speaker 2

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So this is the original Tango Wood Estates built back in early 2000s. I know the bank had reached out with me. We have a tripartite agreement between the town, the builder, and the bank. He wanted to close out that agreement and for it to be closed out it needs a letter from the planning board to vote to release the leftover money which is $6,155.46 that the bank actually releases to the builder or their agreement with them.

3:01Speaker 7

So is it the same person who pulled the bond initially as it is now?

3:09 – 3:25Speaker 2

Yes. I don't know a whole lot about it, and I even, Mike and I have talked about it. We, it's way past our time. I know that the town had used a lot of that bond money to finish off the roadway, and it's done, so there's nothing more.

3:25Speaker 7

So we have as-built bombs, everything's registered at the registry of deeds, my library and everything, before we release?

3:33Speaker 2

Mike is on Zoom, if you want to. If he knows any little bit more about it, maybe you can talk with him about it.

3:42Speaker 7

Mike, you there?

3:44Speaker 4

I am. Hi, Mr. Chairman.

3:46 – 3:58Speaker 7

Hi, how are you tonight? Mike, just a quick question about Tango Estates. Is that all... 100% released and recorded at the registry of deeds with my laws and everything before we release it?

3:58 – 4:22Speaker 4

Yeah, so what happened is way back, I think it was late 90s, early 2000s, the original developer defaulted, I believe, and the previous town engineer used the bond to actually complete construction of the subdivision infrastructure, the roadways, and any remaining work needed to be done. The road has been since accepted, so it's a town road now, so everything's been done for it. I believe this is just a small amount that was left behind that was still on the account that nobody knew about.

4:23Speaker 7

Okay, so you're comfortable just releasing it then?

4:28Speaker 7

Okay. Anybody have any questions? Chris, you hear me?

4:36Speaker 8

Yeah, no questions. Thank you.

4:38Speaker 7

Okay, good. Thank you, Chris. So I make a motion to approve the release of $6,155.46 to the bond applicant.

4:51Speaker 2

Yeah, for the bond.

4:52 – 5:03Speaker 7

For the bond. You're here second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Roll call vote. Yeah, can you do it, Chris? Yep. Greg Rondo? Yes. Jay Mello? Yes.

5:04Speaker 8

Eric Stelter? Yes. Chris Stickey? Yes.

5:09Speaker 7

Okay, next item of business, this will be a partial form H with 230 East Central Street. I could go to Amy first for a brief review.

5:19 – 5:40Speaker 2

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So this was approved back in August 8, 2022, the 34 residential units and one commercial unit. They're applying for a partial form H for the temporary occupancy at 230 East Center Street. has provided a review and evaluation.

5:41Speaker 7

OK, good. Thank you. I'll go to Mike. I'll go to you first on this before I go to Matt.

5:53Speaker 4

I've got Mark. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe this is just a partial form age. Beta's been doing all the on-site construction.

6:01Speaker 2

On-site, on-site, on-site, on-site, on-site. Sorry. Mark's got on twice. Mark's got on twice. Okay. That should be better.

6:11 – 6:39Speaker 4

Okay. You hear me? So they've been doing the on-site observation. We still have some DPW bonds for the road work, the tying of the work within the right-of-way, the sidewalks and the trench patches and the roadway. But Beta's been overseeing all the stuff on-site. And I believe this is just partial formation because we'll still eventually need the as-built CAD drawings and everything that we'll need for the final. But right now, I'll defer to Beta.

6:39Speaker 7

Okay, good. Matt, you there?

6:44Speaker 1

Yes, I am, Mr. Chairman.

6:46Speaker 7

Hi, Matt. How are you tonight? Very good. How about yourself? Good, good. I know they've got still a pretty good shopping list here. You want to just give us a bullet list of items that you think?

6:58 – 9:32Speaker 1

Yeah, sure. So we were out there earlier in the month, and since doing our initial report and sending the list of items over to the applicant, they have knocked some of the things off. So they can be good just to kind of mention those things that were listed on the Form H or in Beta's reports that have since been addressed. So the yard drain at the front of the site, that was actually installed, and they just had to uncover it. The bike racks have been installed. The accessible parking signs along with the visitor signage has been installed. They put the gates on the dumpster today. They just need to add the vinyl slats in for screening. And I think that's what they've addressed. What that leaves is the stop line at the front of the site has not been installed. However, we do note for development like this, it's likely unnecessary, but we defer to the engineer of record to determine if it's needed. landscaping hasn't been done and one thing that the the owner applicant is going to want to touch on tonight is we noted that special condition two of the approvals stated that bollards need to be installed adjacent to the parking spaces between the fence The owner has noted that at the time of the approval I believe that there was a daycare next door and that was the reason for it but I'll let them speak to that. Some of the other things to note was the granite curb on East Central Street just needs to be pointed. And there's a couple other deviations that we don't really consider to be an issue. Chain link fence along the top of the wall wasn't black vinyl like proposed. However, the site abuts what appears to be wood, so screening appears unnecessary. The curving adjacent to the building is monoliquid for the sidewalk, which is pretty typical on other developments in town. The lighting is a little bit, they have an extra cobra head out there, but they do own both adjacent sites, so spillage should not be an issue. And they do have a PVC fence on the westerly side of the property, which would be an improvement. The only other thing to note is we received an affidavit through the building commissioner today. The engineer record provided that affidavit stating that the retaining wall was installed in accordance with the construction control requirements. So we anticipate that that issue is now closed out. I'd be happy to answer any questions that the board may have.

9:32Speaker 7

Okay, good. Thank you. Before I go to the board and the public, you guys just, could you just introduce yourselves for the record, please?

9:39Speaker 6

I'm Boya Dean Ahmed. I'm the manager at Toddy States at Franklin, too.

9:44Speaker 5

Joe Halligan.

9:47Speaker 7

Go to the board first. Comments, questions?

9:54 – 10:41Speaker 9

you guys want to go first maybe go for it yeah so i'm kind of still digesting the ballard thing because yeah i was putting because of a daycare but that's awful close to other homes but then do we establish these in other situations uh you know so i'm not really quite sure how to proceed with that when i be honest with you It's like they retain the same purpose, you know, it's All feet.

10:46Speaker 8

Jay, I had the same concern.

10:48 – 11:10Speaker 9

Yeah, I'm just, you know, I don't want to sit here and establish some sort of precedent. We're going to want these things everywhere, but I'm not sure if in my time here we've had another situation where we've developed something quite this type, which might be kind of more of the future. So I'm kind of torn on that.

11:11Speaker 7

Okay. Do you want to look into it a little bit more?

11:14 – 11:33Speaker 9

Yeah, I kind of would prefer to look into that a little bit more. Okay. Because I don't want to hammer these guys with something right now, but in the same turn, something on the inside of me says that something might be good here. But again, it's looking around and considering what we're doing in parking areas and around residential buildings, multiple residential buildings. Okay.

11:34Speaker 5

Okay, good. What else? Can we touch on that?

11:38Speaker 7

YEAH, GO AHEAD, AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK THROUGH.

11:42 – 14:07Speaker 5

JOE HALLIGAN, 230 CENTRAL STREET. SO I'M SURE GREG REMEMBERS IT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE THE ONLY MEMBER THAT'S HERE NOW THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS. When that land was purchased to build what we built at 230, there was a daycare center next door, which is a very young daycare, one to five year olds. And the neighbors were very concerned about a car jumping over the curb, which we have a seven inch curb, and going through a fence and possibly affecting the operation of their business. So, I believe, It was never in the plan to put bollards on there, but being sympathetic to the neighbor and noting that we're going to be encroaching on their residential lot next door as a single family home, we basically said, you know what, we will put these bollards in to satisfy the safety of young kids that could possibly be behind the fence. Right after we were approved, those people walked next door and said, you know, we found another home. We'd like to sell you that home. And we purchased that home, and now that's where the other development is next door. So the only reason why the bullets were put in is just because of the the fact that there were going to be very young children, one, two, three, four-year-olds playing. And we went along with it. We figured it was a good thing to do in a situation like that. We now own both parcels. There is no daycare. Again, there's a curbing there, just like every other product in town that tires can go up against in the event. There's also a fence there. There is about 10 feet difference between that and the home. But that's not really a backyard. That's more of an emergency access in the event of a fire so people can leave there. So it's not like there's going to be lounge chairs or people in the backyard of that 10-foot section. With that said, we'd like to get a waiver or change the condition. We feel as though it's very safe and suitable. Don't get us wrong. If we found somehow that cars were jumping that curb and affecting our fence, at that point we would put bullets in. But I've never seen a product in the town of Franklin with that many bullets put in front of every parking spot. Even in commercial applications, it hasn't been done. We just appreciate some consideration on that.

14:07 – 14:18Speaker 7

We'll just table it for the time so everybody can look at it one more time. Defer back to Peter and Mike as time goes. It shouldn't take very long to figure it out. What else you got?

14:19 – 14:32Speaker 6

I just wanted to point out the granite curbing. I think Matt said that it wasn't pointed. We actually went back and did that. I forgot to send him a picture of that one, but that was also taken care of off the list. OK. Jay?

14:32Speaker 9

Anything else? There's still a thing here.

14:35Speaker 7

OK, that's all right. I'll go to Chris and then Mark, and then I'll go to myself after. Chris, comments, questions?

14:42 – 15:35Speaker 8

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I expressed the same concerns as Jay. Obviously, we can talk about the bollards later on and not necessarily impact tonight's proceedings. But in my opinion, when we do come back to do a final, my preference would be that there are bollards because although the goal isn't that that's a backyard, those are going to be condos for sale, not rentals. So my guess is that there's going to be the opportunity for folks to do that. And additionally, we just had... The Irondeck Club put in bollards across the entire side of their site that butted up against that daycare. So we have seen precedent for it. And the fact that they were already in the approved plan, for me, I think makes it something we should consider because there is a safety issue involved. Some driving into the building into a home where people would be hanging out. Other than that, that's all I got for this one so far.

15:36Speaker 7

Mark, you there? Yeah.

15:39 – 16:16Speaker 3

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I echo also Chris's concerns. We cannot guarantee that there aren't going to be anybody, whether it be children or adults, walking behind there. In addition, there are gates also in that. in that fence that would indicate that people would egress or go back and forth through that possibility. So I also echo what Krista said. I believe in this case there should be a ballage there. Plus it's PVC. That's not going to stop anything. So that's all I got for that. Thank you.

16:17 – 16:29Speaker 7

Okay. Anybody in the audience? No? I just got a few. I've got to say, you've still got a pretty good shopping list after two and a half years building that place.

16:30Speaker 5

What's left? It's just the landscaping? The landscape? G&H?

16:34 – 16:59Speaker 7

Well, it has built, correct. Retaining walls? Why'd you put the wrong fence on top of the wall? Call for a black fence on top of the wall with privacy. Your regular chain link fence. And it's damaged. Thank you. You still got outstanding items. How about the retaining wall? You still got a big bulge in it. Isn't that the wall that was collapsing the first two weeks you put it in?

16:59Speaker 6

Yeah, that's been repaired since then. Matt mentioned that the building inspector sent him an affidavit about that retaining wall.

17:08 – 17:19Speaker 7

Matt, not to sidestep you, but I'm going to probably look for a letter for the next five years to make sure that wall's inspected. Those walls do have a tendency to go, as time goes, with load on them.

17:19Speaker 5

Is that something you'll be doing with all retaining walls?

17:22Speaker 7

Just ones that were pretty much put in correctly.

17:28Speaker 9

Was that particular, Matt, was the wall repaired or was an affidavit provided that says the way that the wall was installed was within manufacturer's tolerance?

17:40 – 18:02Speaker 1

so i believe the wall was both repaired based upon conversations uh with the owner uh and i believe the affidavit i'd have to look at the exact wording on it uh but i but essentially i think it was uh said that it was the end product is uh structurally sound okay so so it depends if matt is what

18:04 – 18:25Speaker 9

So there was two ways that you handle this from an engineering standpoint. You either explain it away with engineering and say, hey, this isn't the tolerancing for the, you know, the way this is constructed and this is fine. Or you repair it. And from what Matt's saying, it just got repaired. So I don't know if this picture is post-repair. Matt, is that picture post-repair? It's been repaired like two years. It's got a pretty good ball in it.

18:28Speaker 7

And if this is the same structural engineer that watched it go in, then I have reservations of saying release it now.

18:33Speaker 9

Has there been any level of monitoring done to this thing over that period in time?

18:38 – 18:56Speaker 7

Five years and just annual visit, inspect it, write a letter to the town and it's fine and move on. I've had to do it in my previous... That's fine. If it's an annual... No, just because of the history of it, that's all. If it fails, then you've got a safety problem.

18:56Speaker 9

Well, I was trying to understand what had may have occurred there.

18:59Speaker 7

It wasn't built correctly from the get-go. And the fencing. So what's the feelings? Is the commercial space 100%?

19:09Speaker 6

The commercial space is not 100%. It's just the residential.

19:13Speaker 7

Wasn't that part of the deal of getting the commercial space 100%?

19:15 – 19:26Speaker 6

Well, we have it all. It's done, but we kind of left it. Yeah, we want to make sure before we build it out 100%. At what level is it? Sheet rock, handicap bathrooms are there. Yeah, everything's...

19:26Speaker 7

Because the idea is to have that available with the residences. That was the whole purpose of allowing these buildings as we're doing them.

19:34Speaker 6

Well, once we have a tenant, we can kind of finish up how they would like it. So it's kind of almost right up to the end, the finish of it.

19:43Speaker 7

Do you have an ETA? Do you have anybody interested? You're showing it? We don't have anything at the moment. Okay.

19:49Speaker 6

Actually, we did have a physical therapist I was interested in. They're going to come and take a look at it, but we don't have anything signed. Okay.

20:00 – 20:12Speaker 7

Just based on where we are, I'm going to make a recommendation. We give a release of all but five units on a temporary C of O. We keep five units until everything's 100% complete.

20:14Speaker 5

Has that been done in the past with other projects on 140 right up the street?

20:18 – 20:30Speaker 7

Yeah. That way everything gets done 100%. We can close it out. Is there a second? Second. Chris, you want to do a roll call?

20:31Speaker 8

Yes, sir. Mark Bucciarone?

20:35Speaker 8

Eric Stelter?

20:37Speaker 8

Jay Mello? Yes. Greg Rondo? Yes. Chris Stickney? Yes.

20:46Speaker 5

So if we're back within 30 days, those will be released?

20:50Speaker 7

If everything's 100%. Cool.

20:52Speaker 6

Yeah. So I just want to be clear. What is left on the list other than landscaping I know?

20:58Speaker 7

Well, the fence has to be repaired. You put the wrong one in, which you didn't follow the drawings. That's the first problem. Retaining wall was still substandard.

21:09Speaker 6

Finish the punch list, come back 100%, and you'll be all set.

21:15Speaker 7

This is our way of protecting the town.

21:18 – 21:39Speaker 5

I just wanted to be sure what the items are you're looking for. Yep. So just for clarification, so we don't come back and it's delayed again. Yes, the fence installer installed the four-foot chain link fence on top of the retaining wall that is behind our building, and there's 40 to 60 feet of woods between that and the next resident. It doesn't matter.

21:40Speaker 7

It's what was agreed upon on the drawings.

21:42Speaker 5

Are you okay with leaving it with galvanized chain link? I mean, it doesn't get seen by anybody. I mean, it's not a visual thing.

21:51Speaker 7

Me personally, if you submitted it to us, you show us. That's how I feel. I mean, I can't do it at work. I can't put substitutions in without asking.

22:01Speaker 5

I mean, it's galvanized versus black vinyl. You don't see it. It's behind the building and between 40 feet of woods.

22:09Speaker 7

It's up to the rest of the board. Me personally, I say replace it. It's damaged anyway, so.

22:15 – 22:27Speaker 5

Well, that small section, a tree fell on that from a storm over the winter. That's just going to be pulled up and re-secured. No. We'd like to have an answer. I want to come back 30 days from now and get rejected again.

22:27 – 22:43Speaker 8

Chris, what's your feelings? Understanding the defense replacement is a challenge. My compromise would be the privacy slats that were proposed in the vinyl. Or the screening, whatever it was.

22:43Speaker 7

OK, Mark, you OK with that?

22:47Speaker 3

I'd be OK with that.

22:52 – 23:03Speaker 10

Yeah, just the fence that's in question is, I don't know how else to do it, but it's this fence. It's on top of the retaining wall. There on top of the retaining wall. Correct? Correct.

23:03Speaker 6

Behind the building, yes.

23:05 – 23:25Speaker 10

Yeah, for me, it's more of an aesthetic, less so for the wooded and the woods and the neighbors that are there, but it's the people that are actually going to be living within that property. And so I think having some sort of compromise there to make it a little bit more visually aesthetic and having those slots would help to go that direction.

23:25 – 23:36Speaker 9

I don't think that taking the whole thing down isn't necessarily the best approach if we can find a compromised position on it because I would feel like I live in an institution there, but it's an awful lot of work to take that down.

23:37Speaker 6

Oh, that's fine. We can agree to that. So you're saying put some slats.

23:41Speaker 9

White or black or green or whatever.

23:43Speaker 7

Black. Black slats? Black. Black slats. And then finish up everything else. And if we come back.

23:52Speaker 5

Is there anything else that would be controversial? We just want to make sure you guys are satisfied. We come back within 30 days. UNH is going to do the as-bill. We'll have everything pretty much done.

24:02 – 25:21Speaker 9

I can add a little bit to the prior conversation regarding the bollards, and that is what I've done is kind of, as everyone's pointed out, this area is a bit more akin to a backyard than typical what we have with parking configurations on multi-family homes, which is like a sidewalk pulling up the frontage and then a structure. While a vinyl fence would make a poor deflector of a vehicle, a structure makes a much better one. Obviously at 30 miles an hour a car is going straight to a house. What we're more concerned with here is grandma reaches down for a purse and punches the gas and she's doing like 10 or 15 which will go through a fence into what someone would presume is a safe usable area because the purpose of this is to act as some sort of usable space if I remember that correctly. so i can't find an analogous for that in town so that's the only thing that i want to add because basically everything else that we have this car is pulling right up to either the frontage and it's curved and there's a structure or you know frontage curve sidewalk structure so absent the big old structure there um that's where my concern and i really kind of tried to check like A lot of the multifamily that's been done in the last decade of time. I can't unfortunately find it now.

25:22 – 25:35Speaker 7

Chris had a good point with the daycare center with the adjoining building with the ballrooms too. Honestly, I think that's almost the closest I know. It's happening more and more frequently. That's what makes me nervous of saying, no, don't put them in.

25:36 – 26:03Speaker 9

The outdoor usable space next to a parking area is the... you know, where people wouldn't expect it because the park, the, and you know, not so much in this situation where someone's pulling up to a ball field, you see the ball field in front of you, right? And there's like room to potentially scurry out of the way of a vehicle. The daycare center was downhill, so they can't, see they all have that opportunity to move. And in this particular situation, you're kind of just blinded by a fence, and it's the same deal, so I'm almost...

26:03Speaker 7

But by the other two buildings being constructed, it becomes a much tighter cycle.

26:08Speaker 9

I've moved all the way back around from bollards to no bollards back to bollards. I've done the full 360.

26:15 – 26:39Speaker 10

Only because I wasn't here for when this property came. Where are we exactly talking about? Is it these ones here? It's these guys. Yeah, I know that's the site. Where are the bollards on the site? Oh, along those parking spots in between. These ones right here. These ones here? Yes. Got it. And in between...

26:42Speaker 7

Just protecting the adjoining. It's not protecting the adjoining structure, which was the house at the daycare. The daycare is torn down. So it's almost all gone.

26:52Speaker 9

So it's like this space here where all these patio porch type areas are. Thank you.

27:00Speaker 8

Mr. Chairman.

27:01Speaker 7

Yeah, go ahead, Chris.

27:03 – 27:47Speaker 8

I would also say too, if we looked at this through the lens of this development is going through the process today, while that other development already existed, that abutter would look for some type of protection. for that particular reason. So whether it's a bollard or a jay, I know you have a wealth of knowledge on this, and I don't remember the example you used, but the hardwood, the thick wood fence, as opposed to a bollard, whatever jay says is better, is far better than my understanding. But I think when I look at it through the lens of it's going through backyard and if this project is being put forth for proposal today that a butter would want to have some type of protection to not do that I think is Not right That's a valid point Chris.

27:51Speaker 10

Because there's nothing stopping any sort of car from going into that new building that's constructed.

27:57Speaker 9

Not so much a building as someone outside of it. Because we have plenty of situations where a vehicle's pulling up to a building, so we can't go and just, like, a vehicle's pulling up to a building, therefore it gets bothered.

28:06Speaker 7

Yeah, but like Chris said, if there was people living in that building right now, they'd be looking for them. Am I correct in saying that, Chris? That was your thought?

28:16 – 28:27Speaker 8

Yeah. Yeah, let's say that that project was fully complete, sold out, and there's residents that are there, there would be, I think, in droves, at least the people that own those units, asking for something.

28:28Speaker 7

I actually agree with you, looking at it from that point of view, too.

28:31Speaker 9

The thing I get, it's the outdoor usable space without the opportunity to, like... really would do anything about a vehicle like that.

28:41Speaker 7

Mark, you were going to say something?

28:44 – 28:59Speaker 3

Yes, Mr. Chairman. I mean, we see every day, almost every day, that cars are hopping the curb going into storefronts and into homes on TV. So, I mean, I wouldn't support not having them.

29:00Speaker 7

Okay. So I'm going to make a motion that we keep the bullets as per plan.

29:06 – 29:34Speaker 5

Could I have one comment on that? Sure. Can we meet you a little bit and if we agree to – because we'd like to wrap it up when we come back the next time. To put bolts just the length of the building, not accessible that are beyond – In other words, to protect the building or the back of the yards, you might call them, if someone pulls up to the curb. Because there are several ballers all around the property. It became lidded with them all, which are unnecessary.

29:34Speaker 7

Chris and Mark, would you be amendable to that? And then maybe one baller just outside the edge of the building and not do the rest? Yes.

29:45Speaker 8

Mr. Chairman, I'm trying to recall the adjacent development. I believe into the applicant, maybe they know, was the dumpster pad at the south end of that property or the far end of that property?

29:55Speaker 7

It's in the back right corner. Those bulls are.

29:59Speaker 8

So the building ends and then that dead space is snow storage and dumpster storage?

30:04 – 30:19Speaker 7

So maybe plant them along the building and then just one just at the teeny end on either side just for final protection and then not with the rest? Yeah, because the idea is you're good with that.

30:19 – 30:30Speaker 3

My understanding, they were only supposed to be on the west side of the property, so that was my understanding. Are you saying on the south side also, bringing the bollards around?

30:30Speaker 8

That was what was agreed to by the previous application.

30:36Speaker 3

It was just the west side, correct?

30:39Speaker 7

East side, Mark. East side?

30:41Speaker 3

East side, I'm sorry.

30:43Speaker 7

So just to protect the building itself, the occupants of the building.

30:47Speaker 9

It's the usable space outside the building.

30:51Speaker 3

The building can take it. Yes, I'd be okay with that.

30:55 – 31:07Speaker 7

Okay, so the length of the building and then maybe just one on the tail end of each of those last two at the edge of the building so nothing jumps in. Okay, everybody good? Yeah.

31:11Speaker 3

Mr. Chairman?

31:15Speaker 3

I apologize, I was late coming into the meeting. Was there any discussion about the Cobra Heads as far as any light spillage?

31:27Speaker 7

Yeah, there was. Go ahead.

31:29Speaker 2

You want to go? Through the Chairman. Yes, Mark. Beta addressed that, that since they own both properties that it will not be an issue.

31:40 – 31:58Speaker 3

However, there's a resident right behind that. And the property next to it are going to have homes with, I'm assuming, bedrooms. So that would be my concern. But is that a concern? Other than that, he owns both properties?

32:02 – 32:51Speaker 1

I can add a little context, Mr. Chairman, if you'd like. Sure. Please, Matt. So the extra Cobra head was added to the east side of the light pole out there. So it will be facing the 240 East Central Street property, which is under the same ownership as the subject site today. At least my experience with the board is that when there has been spillage onto adjacent properties, if the adjacent owner has agreed to the spillage, then the board has accepted that. So I believe even if there's individual occupants in these residences, the property will still remain under the same ownership and they would have the ultimate decision on the spillage. So that just provided for context. Obviously, the board would dictate what they want to see done here.

32:52Speaker 7

Okay. I'm actually good with that, Matt. Mark, you good with that explanation? So it's not going to be dumping on adjoining properties, just the property which is owned by them?

33:03Speaker 3

I'd be okay providing it's not spilling onto the resident behind the fence where the dumpster is. Okay.

33:10 – 34:06Speaker 7

Rubber lights functional? So maybe Matt, when you go back out for one last peek, you can take a look if the lights are on. If that being said, that's all. I'm okay with it. A little bit extra light is not the end of the world. It's not dumping on someone else's house. Okay. So make a motion to continue to... Make a motion on the partial form H. All right. Yep. Make a motion on the partial form H with comments... with withholding five units until they come back. And can you come back with a little more information on the commercial space as well? We're trying to make it so these buildings, not just occupied by a resident, but give somebody the opportunity to move in as a business as well. That's the whole purpose of it. That's why you got extra units as well, too. So everybody good with that?

34:07Speaker 10

I believe we've made the motion and voted on it already. Didn't we, Amy?

34:12Speaker 7

No. Not in the partial format.

34:15Speaker 8

We made a motion on the unit holdback.

34:17 – 34:30Speaker 3

Mr. Chairman, can I make one more comment before we vote? Sure. On those five units, can we make sure that none of those are affordable?

34:34Speaker 7

Good point. We can do that.

34:40Speaker 3

Is it three of them are supposed to be affordable for I believe?

34:45Speaker 3

No, I would. I would be amenable to that OK.

34:53Speaker 7

So with the with the amendment and mark from the units, everybody comfortable with that? Yes, OK, Chris went to roll call.

35:01Speaker 8

I need a second, I believe.

35:04Speaker 7

Second on favor.

35:07Speaker 8

Mark Moucheron. Yes. Eric Stelzer?

35:13Speaker 8

Greg Rondo? Yes. Chris Stickney? Yes.

35:19Speaker 5

Thank you, guys. Is there any particular date? Did you hold on a date to come back or anything like that?

35:25Speaker 2

It's general business, so it's really up to when you guys finish everything.

35:29Speaker 5

The only concern we'll be trying to get the landscape 100% this time of the year in the summer, so we'll do our best.

35:34Speaker 6

Yeah, that's the only thing. The plantings and stuff. Yeah, put the plantings in.

35:37Speaker 5

But everything else will be done within a few weeks.

35:39Speaker 9

Water heavily and regularly. Water heavily and regularly is a violation of the water ban.

35:47Speaker 6

Okay. All right.

35:48Speaker 9

Good. All set. Thank you. Hand water. There you go. Not violating any hand water. That's what I've been doing.

35:56Speaker 7

Are you watering a vegetable garden that way? Yep. I watered my front lawn by hand yesterday.

36:02Speaker 9

Watered by hand.

36:03 – 36:16Speaker 7

Okay. Next item of business. This would be for an 81 P&A and off of Long Hill Road. If I could go to Amy, please, Department of Planning.

36:17 – 36:45Speaker 2

Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So they submitted a plan over a Long Hill Road to combine two lots. That was submitted to us on June 12, 2026 and submitted to DPCD on June 17. So there's two existing lots. There's actually a house on one lot. The other lot will not be built on and they're going to combine it into one big lot.

36:47Speaker 7

Okay. So the other lot will be non-vulnerable.

36:53Speaker 9

Is the road finished in front of this? I think it terminates in front of us. That's what I'm curious.

36:58 – 37:13Speaker 7

Long Hill Road is dirt at some point. Mike? Yes, Mr. Chairman. Mike, on this particular location, are you comfortable with no road in front of it?

37:13 – 37:31Speaker 4

Yes. The builder, so the builder actually extended the end of Long Hill Road, maybe 50 to 100 feet, to extend in front of the new house he was building. So the house lot where he built, he had to extend the road to have frontage on a built road, so he had done that.

37:31Speaker 7

Did the town water and sewer down there?

37:35Speaker 4

No. No, he's on well and septic.

37:37Speaker 7

Well and septic, okay. All right. Chris, any comments, questions? No comments, Mr. Chairman. Mark, any comments, questions?

37:48Speaker 3

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No comment.

37:52Speaker 7

All right, no comments.

37:54Speaker 9

Jay? No, I would disdain taking a buildable lot out of inventory, but this particular location, I don't think it matters.

38:02Speaker 9

All right. Can't really do much down there. Okay.

38:06 – 38:19Speaker 7

Matt, you didn't look at this, so we should be able to say it. Okay. So make a motion to approve the 81PA and off of Long Hill Road, actually plan of land 17, Long Hill Road. Do I hear a second? Second.

38:23Speaker 8

Roll call vote. Mark Moutron? Yes. Eric Stelzer?

38:29Speaker 9

Yes. Greg Rondo?

38:32Speaker 8

Yes. Chris Stickney? Yes.

38:36 – 38:54Speaker 7

okay you're all set thank you thank you jay i didn't want to get that lot on me thank you okay our next item of business this would be a covenant for aiden estates if i could go to amy please at department of planning

38:54 – 39:15Speaker 2

Sure, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So this is pretty standard when new subdivisions start the construction of the roadways, put the infrastructure in, we do a covenant. This will be a public road, so this goes through the planning board. We hold the lots until, you know, some of the infrastructure is put in. Beta will go out and provide a bond estimate at that time that they want the lots released.

39:16Speaker 7

Okay. Quick question. Are we going to, is this going to release like Uncas Ab did?

39:26Speaker 2

No. I just want to make sure. This is holding the lots. Okay. This is holding the, what is it, four lots?

39:33Speaker 7

These are five lots. Five lots, yeah.

39:35Speaker 2

This is holding the lots until the infrastructure gets in.

39:38Speaker 2

And then when they want them in lease, that's when we put the bond down and we can release it. Okay.

39:44Speaker 7

I just want to make sure we weren't going down. No, this is holding them. Okay. Chris, any comments or questions?

39:51 – 40:24Speaker 3

no sir mr chairman okay mark any comments questions yes mr chairman i did have a comment section four paragraph b does that mean they can only build the partial road up until you know are they building the whole road and then building uh asking for the lots to be released they're gonna build the road then come back to us we get a bond estimate and then we release the lots that way So the entire road will be completed before they

40:26Speaker 7

No, I think that can be the choice as long as the infrastructure is functional, right?

40:31 – 41:06Speaker 2

Yeah, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman. Sure. Yeah, they typically get up to like binder coat on the road. They never really do the final as-built. That's why we keep the bond. The bond money will be whatever is left over to be done, but it has to be accessible and the board can determine when they come in if they want to release, if it's acceptable from Theta's review to release the lots. So how much infrastructure safety is put in? I do want to note that the town attorney did review this covenant and has given us the go ahead that it was acceptable.

41:06 – 41:41Speaker 7

Okay. And Mark, this is such a short road that I would doubt that he would want to do anything but get the whole thing in. and uh okay i just wanted an explanation on that that part of the covenant that that's all right i'm okay with that thank you you guys all set everybody good well good okay so i make a motion to accept the covenant for aiden estates do i hear second second chris you want to do a roll call roll call roll call vote mark moose brown yes eric stelzer yes jay mella yes

41:43Speaker 8

Greg Ronda? Yes. Chris Stickney? Yes.

41:49Speaker 8

Thank you. I was giggling because I think I said Mark's name four different times tonight. Four different ways. I can never get it the same.

41:59 – 42:23Speaker 7

You got two more shots at it then. I'm used to it. Yeah, there you go. That's why we call you Machi. It's easier. Next item of business. This would be a public hearing. This is for 900 Washington Street, Ole Miss State. It's a definitive subdivision modification withdrawal. If I could go to Amy, please, Department of Planning.

42:23 – 42:41Speaker 2

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So we did receive an email that they had come in to try to add a fifth lot to the four-lot subdivision, and they have confirmed in writing that they have requested that they withdraw the application altogether. So it would be a vote on the board to accept that withdrawal without prejudice.

42:42 – 43:01Speaker 7

Okay. Anybody have any comments or questions? No? Make a motion to accept the withdrawal of the, actually the email that Amy got from five lots to four lots, the original, for 900 Washington Street. Do I hear a second? Second. All in favor?

43:01Speaker 8

Mark Boucheron? Yes. Eric Stelters?

43:09Speaker 8

Chris Stickney? Yes. Greg Rondeau? Yes.

43:14 – 43:31Speaker 7

Okay. We'll go to our last item of business, and the last item would be for 555 King Street, formerly 585 King Street, the site plan modification. If I could go to Amy, please, Department of Planning.

43:32 – 44:04Speaker 2

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. So they had come in on our last meeting, the reducing the size of the building from 255,400 square feet to 234,700 square feet. I think there were two outstanding items from the last meeting, weight and unconservation, modification approval, which has been granted, and then there was a question about... The contractors are in the rear of the building where they reduce the building, and that is an allowable accessory use in the business zone that they're in.

44:04Speaker 7

Okay, good. Is the applicant online or no?

44:07Speaker 2

Yes. Let me allow him to talk. Okay, should be all set. Josh.

44:17 – 44:30Speaker 7

Hi, Chairman. How are you? Hi, Josh. How are you tonight? Great, thank you. So Amy said actually you got everything cleared up. Conservation Commission and the storage all back, so you're all set with everybody, with everyone else, correct?

44:32Speaker 8

That is correct.

44:32 – 44:47Speaker 7

Okay, good. Anything to add to that? Are you good? No, appreciate your time. This has been a long time coming, so appreciate everyone's time. Thank you, thank you. Chris or Mark, any comments or questions?

44:49Speaker 8

No, sir. No, sir.

44:52 – 45:06Speaker 7

OK, good. Thank you. Any will there? All right, so I make a motion to approve the site plan modification for 555 King Street. Do I hear a second? Second. All in favor?

45:08Speaker 8

Roll call vote. Mark Mucciarone? Yes. Eric Stelter?

45:13Speaker 10

I'm recused from this one.

45:16Speaker 8

Thank you, Eric. Jay Mello?

45:21Speaker 8

Chris Stickney? Yes.

45:24 – 45:37Speaker 7

Okay, you're all set, Josh. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good night. Thank you. Anybody have any general comments? Oh, Amy's got one. Yeah. What do we got?

45:37 – 45:55Speaker 2

What do we got? If anyone's, well, everyone's watching all that's going on with Franklin. The big watch party's coming up on Wednesday and Thursday in Commons and Hayward Manor. So just wanted to make that an announcement because I know they've been planning for a very long time about it and it's like a really fun event, so. I just want to remind everybody. Okay, good.

45:56Speaker 7

I'll be working it.

45:57Speaker 2

You're working it? I saw that. I was trying to. I might try to put in a few hours myself.

46:03Speaker 7

Mark or Chris, anything for general business outside? Comment?

46:08Speaker 8

Nothing for me tonight. No, thank you. Okay.

46:11Speaker 7

All right. Make a motion to adjourn. Do I hear a second? Second. All in favor? Aye.

46:18Speaker 8

Arc Moucheron? Yes. Eric Stelzer? Yes. Okay. Jay Mello?

46:25Speaker 8

Greg Rondo? Yes. Chris Stickney? Yes.

46:30Speaker 8

Matt Geroni.

46:31Speaker 7

Matt Geroni. Matt, Mike, thank you.

46:36Speaker 3

I'm going to write a title.

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