Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

I do not know why in my typically rational brain it matters what shirt I'm wearing whether we're going to win the game [laughter] or where I happen to be sitting. I know it has no brought a big crowd with you today, huh? That's usually a good thing, right? [laughter] Security. I thought that was the guy in the back room. Oh, le our security back. We got one, too. Security. [laughter] He is our He is our designated concerned citizen who will come and make sure we do things right and it's greatly appreciated, Les. It truly is. It truly is. Ready to get started, Les? [laughter]

Thanks a lot. Yeah, exactly. [laughter] All right. Good evening. It [clears throat] is 6 p.m. January the 7th, 2026. Happy New Year. Time to call the to order the board of zoning and appeals. City of Franklin, Indiana. Bill Carson here present. How about Mr. Nally here? Mr. Gr here. Uh Mr. Kempky here. And Mr. Actton here.

Also with us, we have Lynn Gray, city attorney. We have Alex Gel, senior planner. And we have Rachel Thompson, recording secretary. Okay. Uh first thing we need to do is do an election of officers. We are looking for a chairman, vice chairman, and a secretary. Do I have any nominations from the board? Then can we do we can do a slate, right? If you can. If yes, you can. I would like to make a motion to approve the current officers as is as a slate. I second it. I have a motion and a second. All in favor? I. Motion passes. Sounds like a railroad job right there. [laughter]

Yeah. Looking for a train. That's going right through. Next thing we need to do is uh we need to appoint legal counsel. So, does anyone know any good lawyers? [laughter] No. But I can get back to you on something. I'll recommend somebody. I'll make an a motion to appoint Len Gray as legal counsel. I'll second that. Okay. All in favor? I Thank you, gentlemen. Passes. Thank you. Next thing is to approve the minutes. uh from December the 3rd, 2025, not 2026. Rachel, were these yours? [clears throat] They were great. Thank you. Yeah. Any other changes? And seeing none, do I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Okay. All in favor?

I. Motion passes. Uh next we'll do a swearing in. So, anyone who wishes to present tonight uh for this case or anyone in the audience who wishes to speak either for or against the motion before the board tonight, please stand and be sworn in. Do you solemnly swear affirm any testimony to give me the truth truth and nothing but the true stuff you got? Thank you folks. Mr. Gel, do we have any old business tonight? Uh, no, sir. No old business. Okay, let's proceed with new business. I see ZB25-7 for Prime Beverage Group. Would you introduce that to us? Yes, sir.

Pulled up here. Okay. So, ZB25-7 um is a special exception request by Prime Beverage Group at the property at 2300 Progress Drive. Uh the property is zoned ILIL for industrial light uh zoning district. Uh and then the comprehensive plan uh also designates this area for light industrial uses. Uh the specific special exception request tonight is to allow a beverage production use in the IIL zoning district. Uh so the subject property is located uh on the east side of town. Um it's uh east of Jim Black Road or 500 East. Um, and address is actually on uh Progress Drive, which is uh the uh public street that was put in as part of the Sunbeam development out there. Uh, and this is a Sunbeam property um that we're talking about tonight. Um, just a bird's eye view of the property if we need to come back to this at any point, but it's a approximately a 1.119 million square feet uh facility. Uh, loading dock doors on the north and south sides. Um and then on the east and west ends um you see uh employee parking uh on either end. [clears throat] Uh I believe at this time the building is completely empty if that's right. I don't is there even offices in there? I don't think there is. Um so Shell building at this time. [clears throat] Um some additional notes about the project. Um as I mentioned it would be a beverage production facility use which is a special exception. Uh having talked to the uh petitioners a few times over the phone, um they've stated there would be roughly 50 to 70 trucks a day in and out for this this use. Um that they would have 40 to 45 employees on each shift and they would run four shifts. Uh so for a total of about 180 total employees. Um they would be adding some exterior

storage tanks or mechanical equipment on the north side of the building only. Um, we'll get into that here in a minute. We've got an example photo that they provided showing what that would look like. U, but otherwise, they're they're not planning to make any other changes to the property other than adding this this uh storage tanks and mechanical equipment. Uh, and then the interior buildout of the of the structure, but no other out exterior changes. Um [clears throat] they have also stated that there would be uh no smoke or odors um as part of any kind of emissions of the of the production that the only emissions they have are actually steam emissions from the boilers. Um they will be using Indiana American water for their water utility. Um and and they have stated that they will be pre-treating uh the waste water prior to discharge into the municipal sewer. So, um, any potential issues with our, uh, municipal, uh, sewers would be pre-treated prior to leaving the property. Um, here's the site plan that they provided as part of their application. Um, the blue box here, an arrow just designating the area that they're they're estimating um, that the mechanical equipment and storage tanks would be located, where that would be located on the building. Again, on the north end only. Um they have also provided an exhibit of their statement of intent and um addressing each of the decision criteria. Um so that's in available also on your online agenda to review if you'd like uh up close. Obviously you can't read it here. I just wanted to point out that it was there. Um and then the example photo that they've provided here, this is from uh one of their existing facilities um and shows what those tanks and mechanical equipment would look like. Um, as staff, we've reviewed this and we've determined that uh these would be permissible without any kind of additional variances or anything of that nature just based on what we're seeing here. Uh, we haven't

we haven't received any specifics in terms of, you know, dimensions, height, things like that. But just in relation to that building and and and what they've stated to us, um, these things can be uh permitted with uh simple permits and and doesn't require any additional variances or anything of that that we're aware of [cough] at this time. Um otherwise, uh the request is ready to be heard by the board. I have the special exception decision criteria on the screen should we need to go over it. Um otherwise, if we're ready for the applicant.

Well, good evening. My name is Andy Metsel. I'm an attorney at the Taft Law Firm. Address 1 Indiana Square, sweet 3500, uh 46204. Um my pleasure tonight to be in front of you on behalf of the Prime Beverage Group. Um I have with me um Mr. John West and John will be speaking with you as well tonight just to explain a little bit more about the company and you'll hear that from him. He is a vice president of the company and has more input and can answer detailed questions should you have them. Um also in the audience is Mr. Jamie Chrisman from Sunbeam Corporation. So if you have any questions about Sunbeam and uh their development uh but I think he's also here in support which we appreciate. Thank you very much. And um I don't want to belabor too many things that many of you have probably already read in their staff report, but I think that there are some things that are worth going over uh for sure. Not the least of which is the fact that this particular area is a little near and dear to my heart because I went to Franklin College. Woo woo. Uh and back in the day, you know, when you're old when you have to start things like that,

you say that. Uh [laughter] back in the day I used to rollerblade on uh State Road 144 for hours actually and in right out I was rollerblading out there. I was obviously in better shape. Um but please Andy don't do that now. It's dangerous.

There's absolutely no way you would do that now. But it's it's just hard for me to believe. You know, I drive by and I just say to myself, "Wow, time has changed." But in in a good way, right? I mean, things are evolving and we're hoping that this is just one more component of that evolution and that Prime Beverage Group can be in the state of Indiana and not only be in the state of Indiana but employ a lot of folks here and also make a huge investment. So, um we are proposing um this special exception uh because it is required by the zoning ordinance in the industrial light district. Um, a beverage production facility is actually identified specifically in your ordinance, but uh, so it is a contemplated use in the industrial light zoning district, but you have to get the special exception in order to do it. And so that's the basis of the petition. You obviously already know that, but I just want to remind you that that specific use is not only identified in the actual ordinance itself, but also in your use tables as a permitted use. So if they were over just a little bit further, the adjacent properties to them, it would actually be a permitted use without special exception. So the properties that are around it could actually operate as a beverage production facility. Those buildings just aren't suitable for it or they're already taken. So, um [clears throat] I Jamie mentioned um or excuse me, uh Alex mentioned that the building is a large building, a million I think uh 19 119,000 square feet. Uh when you go by it, it looks even bigger because it's massive. Uh only a small portion of the building will be used for offices, probably about 4,500 square feet. We identified that in our request. um another 2500 square f feet likely for uh amenities for employees, lockers, spaces, things like that. Uh places to eat, places to relax, um places to take a break. Um the facility itself accommodates indoor operations, which

are really what are contemplated here. Um we are trying to be very transparent about any changes or anything like that that would be included, which is why we included that one image. And Alex, I don't remember what number your slide was. There we go. Gosh, it's like magic. Um, [laughter] but uh this is actually a Prime Beverage Group facility in North Carolina. Um, just to give you an example, we didn't just take an example off the internet. This is one of their operating facilities. Um, one of the most telling things about this is if you look in the background, there are some pretty significant sized homes that are in the immediate proximity of this facility. And so the facility operations are all inside. There is no noise, odor, anything like that that would disrupt these pretty significant sized homes that are in the immediate area. Um, and we have proof positive. This isn't their first rodeo. They've built these facilities before. They've operated these facilities before and they know how to do that and be a responsible citizen. Um, the comprehensive plan does support this type of use in the area. Um, that's a significant thing. I mean, it does contemplate light industrial in both near-term and long-term use maps. It's all always contemplated as industrial for this particular site, which is probably why Sunbeam built there. Um, makes a lot of sense. Um, the actual permitted uses that are permitted without special exception are strikingly similar to what we've requested. Uh, warehouse distribution, research and development, light industrial assembly, uh, and just general industrial production. Um, I want to make sure that that that any questions that you have about this, you know, outdoor area that we do address them tonight. Uh, because this is actually required for them to be able to produce, uh, beverage products, right? Whether they're carbonated or just anything liquid. Um, it is something that they need to do to be safe and to be efficient. So obviously as I mentioned they are an experienced user,

an experienced operator and so they know what they need and it's strikingly similar what they would need here. Okay. Um no business vehicles stored outside. Um like I said indoor operations. I think an important thing to note about this outdoor equipment type area. Um when I visited the site today I was looking at a couple things. One the viewshed to I65. if you're trying to protect that corridor, and that's an if. Some people aren't concerned, others might be. Um, you really, it's it's over a half mile. Um, when I did the GIS measurements, it's over 2900 square feet between where this equipment area would be and 65. So, you really won't see it much, if at all. Plus, the cars are probably going too fast to see much of anything. But, uh, the other thing is that there is a grade differential. So to the north side of this property, um even with the roadway that is immediately adjacent, there is a grade differential. So it's even a little bit lower here. And so by the time you get to the interstate, it's just not really going to be something you'll see. Now, the folks that are to the north can probably see it, but they can also see a million square foot building that is, you know, associated with this. Um there are some large existing mature trees that if it's a a good coincidence, you know, that's a great thing, but they are actually immediately in the area where this equipment would be located. So they do serve as a natural buffer. Not only do you have the ditch, but you also have, I think I counted today, seven really large trees. They don't have a single leaf on them right now, but seven really large trees that are existing that are there, and they just happen to be in this exact area. So that will help with any kind of natural screening. Um as far as you know the other adjacent users, you know, you've got Amazon, Ryder, uh a whole host Johnson Controls. Um this type of use is not inconsistent

with those that are around it because they are confined to indoor operations and not doing anything outside. Um not a ton of truck traffic associated with this particular operation. So that's a good thing. most things are really happening inside and no one will see, hear or notice other than the fact that a building will be occupied and paying taxes. So, um I want to have [clears throat] you hear some things about the company before I go into the criteria for approval. And if you would come up, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, John. Good evening. Uh first and foremost, uh I want to thank all of y'all for having us here tonight. Uh I'm John West. I'm vice president of operations for Prime Beverage Group. Uh I've been with company for about four and a half years now. Uh just wanted to give you all kind of a quick intro into who we are, what we do, where we started, and where we're looking to go in the future. Um, we were founded in 2020, uh, in the greater, uh, Charlotte area in North Carolina. We started out with a 350,000 ft building. Uh, we had two production lines and we had about 200 employees. So, it'll be very similar to what we would start off with uh, here in Franklin. We currently now have 1.2 million square feet across four uh, four campuses. Uh, and we have over 500 employees. So, as we grow, which we would love to here in Franklin, uh like like Andy had said, we would start with probably about 180 employees, but that could very easily grow to 500 plus over the next five to six years. Um our management group has over 100 years combined experience uh in the beverage manufacturing um uh industry. What we do is we serve as a one-stop shop for our clients to um to can their beverages and get them out into the market for them.

So, they'll send us in their raw ingredients, their raw materials. We'll make the liquid, we put it into a can, we put it into a package, whether that's a tray or a carton, and we also do some repackaging, which would be for say like a variety pack or a uh big box club store pack. Uh and then we uh were also uh supply chain for them. So, we do store their finished goods on site until they're ready to be distributed out either to their distributors or to their retailers, which brings us to our growth. Um, we're getting bigger. Uh, and so we are ready to expand. As we all know, Indianapolis, the greater Indianapolis area, it's the crossroads of America. That puts Franklin at the top of our list. Um, it's great for us uh for logistics and it's really great for our clients as well. Um, we're very happy to have the opportunity to uh to expand here. Um, it just kind of it seemed like the next logical step was the greater Indianapolis area. Um, as the slide earlier showed, uh, we'll start about 180 employees, four shifts, 40 people to 45 people per shift. Uh, and we expect that to to expand as we grow. So, our employees, where do we get them from? So, uh, at our plants in Indian or pardon me, in, um, in the greater Charlotte area, over 50% of our employees are in the immediate community that our facilities are in within 10 to 15 minutes. And where do we get them from? Our greatest resource is our colleges, community colleges, young, bright, uh, energetic folks coming up. Uh, places like IvyTech, Franklin College would be great resources for us. Um we do uh also do internship programs with the uh local community colleges and colleges. We've actually done some internship programs with uh the high school as well. Um so we'll bring some high school seniors in if they're interested in engineering manufacturing.

Give them a tour, give them an opportunity to ask us any questions. We actually had one really really great student uh who was a senior. Uh he did a report for us on our sustainability efforts. uh he presented it to our city council in Canapapolis, North Carolina, and he was able to use that presentation uh in his college application process. Um so that was a really really great opportunity for for the students as well as for us. Um as far as community engagement, we also are work very very closely with our fire EMS partners, our police departments, especially as we're building out a facility. We want to make sure the fire marshall, we want to make sure the EMS that they're highly involved so they understand our building. They understand our processes and in the very very small event of an emergency, they would know exactly where to go and what to do. And that's I know that was quick and brief. Uh but with that, I will pass it back over to Andy. Thank you all.

Usually at the conclusion of the presentation, the board will ask questions if they need to. So yeah, we'll let you finish up and then Great. So [clears throat] I want to talk about the special exception criteria which you all are obviously intimately familiar with but there are certain [clears throat] things that are important um with regard to the general welfare welfare and the approval not being injurious to the public health safety and welfare of the community. Um this exception is like I said already contemplated by the zoning ordinance. Um one of the things that I omitted from my presentation originally is that they intend to meet or exceed all the development standard requirements. So, they're not seeking to deviate from them at all as part of their operations, which is important. Um, this is an existing vacant building. I mean, it is a lovely building. It's just that it would be nice to have an end user in it and to fill that to increase the um tax base of the community and also the employment numbers. Um, the community will not be negatively impacted because well, one, the obvious is this isn't new construction, so they don't have to go through the inconvenience of construction. Additionally, the roads have been constructed to facilitate this kind of operation. Plus, there is ample parking on this site. In fact, more parking than is even necessary. And there's ample truck parking, more parking than is even necessary. But this user doesn't require parking for trucks. So, you're not going to see truck truck trailer like you do at a lot of other facilities. It's just not that type of operation. Things are active and exciting and happening indoors. Um, so the other thing is the jobs, the investment that I've already mentioned, but the public will definitely benefit from a user like this that doesn't have what I'm going to call a more controversial type operation. Um, reference was made to water treatment. Um, they do treat water as required under any regulations. Some water doesn't require treatment, by the way. So, as they dispose of some water, uh, they just follow all the laws. I mean, that's that's basically what it is. So, obviously, if you think about what they're producing, it's consumables. So,

it's good enough to drink and hopefully good enough to dispose of in any kind of water systems. Um, but they [clears throat] do comply with any kind of treatment requirements for certain. Um, development standards, as I just mentioned, and they're not de seeking to deviate from the development standards at all. This is, um, I mentioned the setback a half a mile, more than a half a mile from I65. Uh, it is sort of naturally screened. It's only going to be located in that area. It is approximated right now, but it's a very small area when you think about the footprint of the building itself where this very small mechanical type a pertinent equipment would be located. Um, as far as the ordinance intent, you know, granting the special exception will not be contrary to the purposes of the ordinance. Um, well, the fact of the matter is is that this particular use is actually contemplated in the ordinance, so it's not contrary to it. Um, and we plan to abide by the ordinance requirements, which is why we've filed for this petition. As I mentioned earlier, the adjacent industrial properties that is IG, all of those already would allow this use. It's just that because this one is IIL, that we need the special exception. So, you could have the same user over and over and over around us. And so, it's not incompatible with the other types of uses that are around it. Um, as far as the near-term land use maps and the long-term maps, I mentioned those earlier in the in the comprehensive plan, they all recommend that this property is light industrial and so this type of use is something that is consistent with and compatible with the comprehensive plan. Um, the last one is comprehensive plan and making sure that it will be consistent with the character. Um, again, I don't want to belver the same points that I already have, but you know, I do feel as if a beverage production facility of this type is something that is consistent with the goals of the comprehensive plan, which are actually

intended to bring manufacturing type operations, at least in this area designated in the comprehensive plan um, in the immediate vicinity. So, the goal is to bring operations in, and that's exactly what we're trying to do with this special exception. So, I don't I don't want to cruise through those too quickly, but I also don't want to belabor points over and over again that I think you are familiar with. Um, happy to answer questions. You may have some. So, okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

Uh, at this time, is there anybody in the audience who wishes to speak either for or against the petition? Seeing none, uh we'll go ahead and close the public hearing then and we'll start with questions from the board. I have a few. Uh first of all, in regards to the water and you mentioned the waste water being treated before it's released back into our sewer system and that it will be monitored to see that is following regulations. How will that be monitored? Sure. Dear you absolutely. Do you like it when it gets tough? The lawyer always goes, [laughter] "That's why you're such a smart lawyer, Andy."

So, uh, actually, if if you can go back to the picture of the, um, the tanks here. So, in the center, there's those three white tanks right there. Uh, there's a wet well. The water gets uh dumped in that wet well, and it's measured for pH. So, most municipalities, what they're worried about is the pH. They don't want to be too acidic or too basic. So uh the two smaller tanks are acid and costic tanks and so those will uh either dose you know acid for a basic and uh costic for acidic to balance out the pH and all of that's done uh automatically. We do monitor it uh physically daily but all of the dosing and then discharge to the city that all happens automatically. Can you mention the um how you treated water at some of the other facilities and actually reduce the amount of water that you use just because

Yeah.

Uh yeah, absolutely. So um and it's actually you can see it's kind of one of the furthest tanks uh in the picture here. Um so between 2023 and 2024, we increased our production 22%. You would say, oh, you think, well, with that increase, you probably increase your wastewater about 22%. We actually reduced our waste water 70% over that exact same time. And it was by adding these cooling towers in the back or it's it's we call it's called a cooling tower. It's not actually a tower. It's just a tiny little room. But uh what that does is that allows us to reuse all of our water for our pasteurizers. So, for the first year or two years, um it was a lot of and and that it was a lot of water going down the drain, but that was just it was just regular H2O that didn't need to be treated. Um but by installing this equipment, which we would install here in Franklin, um it reduced our waste water by 70%.

Yeah, that was going to be my next question. So, thank you.

Uh next thing, you seem to enjoy a good reputation uh for regulatory compliance. No significant violations that I can find. Good job there. Uh employee safety, no significant violations. Again, good job there. Uh what I did find was in regards to uh employee satisfaction on Indeed, you guys uh have only a 1.8 out of five rating on Indeed for employee satisfaction. The cons being the long hours, uh management, working conditions, high turnover, and limited advancement. So my question for you is what could you do differently here uh in Franklin to improve on that?

Sure. Um well I think uh I think starting fresh would is going to be uh really important for us. I think the group that started this and it was it was running for about a year before I got in there. Um a lot of them were uh were new. Um, and I think bringing the experience that we've gotten over the last 5 years uh will really help. I think um I think hiring more from the community colleges and uh and and Franklin College will really help because getting younger folks in here really helps with advancement. Um I think that um you know you said mentioned long hours. Um that's those hours just just you all aware are are pretty standard for our industry. So it's a 12-h hour shift but it's a 223 schedule. So you work two days, you're off two days, you work three days and you work two days off two day or off two days work two days off three days. Um that's very standard and most of our employees I've never heard a complaint from it. Everybody loves it because every other week you get a three-day weekend. Um, working conditions. Uh, so we are working on improving that currently right now. Um, I think the biggest biggest complaint that we have is it's hot in there in the summer. We've got three pasteurizers in there. It they give off a lot of heat. So, we're actually this April what we're going to be doing is we're going to be installing some uh giant ventilation fans over all the pasteurizers uh as well as in our filler rooms. And I think we would install those ahead of time here. Uh, you know, like I said, it's one of those things that we kind of learned. Um, and also it's I don't think it's quite as warm in the summer times here in Indianapolis as it is in in North Carolina.

Okay, good answer. Uh, any other questions from the board? I [clears throat] want to go back to the tanks. Uh, spill containment. He said add the costics the acids. What do you guys have a plan in the event god forbid you should have one? What kind of plan or you know do you have something in place for that?

So we do. So the the [clears throat] city that we're in right there obviously does not uh require spill containment. You can see on those first three tanks that there is a spill containment wall there. Um if required, we absolutely could put a wall around it um at first spill containment. Those are uh I believe those are carbon fiber tanks. Um so they are pretty sturdy. Um but we do have uh we do have spill containment kits and things like that. I always keep So when the trucks come in to fill these tanks, there's there's a plan for that if something should happen to break. Yes, absolutely.

Yeah. You should have a regulatory requirement here for a spill prevention plan to [clears throat] be in place. Sure. uh any facility this size with production like this will have to have one. Yeah. Hence Alex's uh fourth commitment I think compliance with all federal applicable state local regulations. Yeah. [clears throat] Any other questions? Okay. Seeing none, I think we're ready for a staff recommendation. Okay.

Uh staff is recommending approval of the special exception request. um with conditions uh as outlined in the staff report. Although I am going to make a slight modification um to one of them and I'll go I'll address that as I get to it. Uh so for the proposed condition A being that special exception approval is for a beverage production facility use and runs with Prime Beverage [clears throat] Group LLC and its affiliates subsidiary successors and assigns at the subject property uh 2300 Progress Drive, Franklin, Indiana. uh specifically all those extras added in, it was specifically requested by the petitioner um that it run with everyone afterward as well. Um as part of special exception request, it typically um would only run with the applicant. They're asking for it to proceed forward with any successors and everything.

You you're welcome to explain that, too. I I I think that we were trying to make sure that we didn't limit it to just the initial LLC. They typically set up with a single purpose entity for this facility. And I just think we've things are going quickly and they haven't set up that entity yet which would actually operate here should they get your approval. So we just wanted to make sure that we didn't have a problem with transferring this approval to the new entity that they would be setting up. It's not if if you if you notice I mean the language that we use we tried very hard to make sure that we weren't using you know we're not trying to transfer this to some other user that you haven't had any exposure to. This is all something under Prime Beverage Group. It's just one of their entities that has yet to be born. So I think we're good.

That's a fair request frankly. I mean we've got the other we're fine. That's a fair request. Sure.

Um and then uh proposed condition B. Uh this is the one I'm going to change slightly uh based on some new information I heard tonight. Uh [clears throat] we had had conversations and asked about the number of employees and everything and we were given uh what sounds like the starting employee number. Typically we'll as part of a special exception will the BCA will set the total number of parking required uh based on projections and and the full buildout of the use. So, um I'm going to change this language slightly, but it it'll essentially mimic what the zoning ordinance requires um as it relates [clears throat] to employees. Um I don't think it'll be an issue because like like you said, there's I think there's 832 parking spaces uh for standard vehicles. Uh so I don't anticipate it'll be an issue.

They need a new building before they need more parking.

Yeah. Um, so for B, I I uh kind of scratched in here that um instead of what's written, I'll have um a minimum of one standard off- streetet paved parking space is required to be provided on site for each employee on the largest largest shift plus shift overlap uh in compliance with article 7 chapter 10 of the zoning ordinance. Um so for instance here uh they had stated that there was going to be 45 a maximum of 45 on a shift. So two shifts overlapping would be 90. Um and then plus 18 for the office space. We had come up with 108. So if in the future it's 100 and 100 um then it would be 200 plus the 18 for the office space. So um just to explain how that would work in the future, it kind of frees it up a little bit um to address the growth in the future. Um so then uh condition C um and the R remaining would all be the same as previously written. Um and the staff report uh C being all semi-tractor trailers on site must be parked in adequately sized parking spaces uh that utilize a qualified loading birth length. Uh loading docks qualify as adequately sized parking spaces. Um so for clarification of what a loading birth is, the loading birth is actually the space used to back into the space. Uh so it's an addition to the parking space. So with the addition of the tanks and and things on the north side, some of that loading birth might get eaten up. So, if there are going to be trucks parked there, we need to make sure that there's enough adequate loading birth space for them to be there. So, that's kind of what that one's aimed at with that language. Um, or they can be parked at a loading dock, and that qualifies as an adequate space. Um condition D. Um waste water from the production and operation of the beverage production facility shall be pre-treated on site prior to discharge into the municipal sanitary sewer system in accordance with the standards and requirements of the the Department of Public Works or DPW as it's known locally. Um E improvement location permits and building permits shall be obtained for all applicable

structures, foundations, mechanical equipment as determined by the planning and building department staff. Um and then kind of our boilerplate one F. All applicable federal, state, county, and local permits and approvals are required, including but not limited to compliance with all building fire health and wastewater treatment codes. Okay. Counselor, are those uh conditions acceptable to your client?

Yes. I was just asking about [clears throat] the best with what they're doing. I It's pre measured or whatever else, but I think that yes, that's the intent by staff's report to put that on the record. That's what you've stated sounds exactly like what we're trying to get at. So, right. And we we've noted if you can drink it, you can discharge it. Okay. [snorts]

Okay. If that's acceptable, then I think we're ready to take a motion. I motion that we uh approve ZB25-7 as is with the requirements. Uh subject to the staff's recommendations. Yes. Okay. Second. Uh motion and a second. So, let's vote. Uh Mr. Nally, yes. Mr. Gr. Yes. Mr. Kempky? Yes, Mr. Actton. Yes. And the chair votes yes. Congratulations,

Andy. Excellent. Excellent presentation. We wish everybody had this much detail. It's Thank you. You come come home to Franklin every once in a while. Okay. Come on back. And John, if you're responsible for the 60°ree weather we got here today, you come back, too. Keep it coming. All right. Keep it coming. Because it doesn't happen very often in January. So, and good job on the written findings of fact as well. I felt like I was reading one of my own, so I was like, "This is great." So yeah, we'll get Yeah, just really do appreciate. Thank you very much. You made it harder on my own because I felt like I couldn't plagiarize you. [laughter] So Okay, Mr. Gel, do we have any other business? Um I don't believe so. No. No. Sorry. Then we'll take a motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. All in favor?

I. All oppose stay. [laughter] Thank you. Thank you. All right.