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Ready? Good evening, everyone. I'd like to welcome everyone to the planning and zoning. Oh, sorry.

Okay.

Ready? Good evening, everyone. I'd like to welcome everyone to the Planning and Zoning Board meeting on July 15th, 2026. My name is Brian Donaldson. I'm acting as chair tonight. My official is vice chair. I would like to introduce from staff. We have Jim Hetzel, Urban Design and Planning Manager. And if Jim, would you like to introduce any of the city staff? Sure.

Did you want to start off with the Pledge of Allegiance to start?

WELL, I WAS GOING TO DO THAT AFTER THE INTRODUCTION. OKAY.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE AGENDA. OH, OKAY. GOOD EVENING. JIM HETZEL, URBAN DESIGN PLANNING MANAGER. TO MY IMMEDIATE RIGHT IS SCOTT STONE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. FOLLOWING ON MY LEFT IS TRISH LOGAN, TYLER LAFORME, AND LORRAINE TAPPEN FROM THE URBAN DESIGN AND PLANNING DIVISION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE REST OF THE BOARD. TO MY LEFT WE HAVE HECTOR DELA TORRES, ALEXANDER SPENCE, JACQUELINE SCOTT, AND TO MY RIGHT WE HAVE STEVE GANNON, KEVIN buckley and monty lawani okay at this time i'd like to have everyone stand for the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you everyone Okay, it shows that we have a quorum this evening because we do have seven out of the nine. Could I have a motion or any comments on an approval of the last meeting minutes? Motion to approve minutes from the last meeting. Second. Okay, do we need a roll call or can we just do a voice vote, please? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? No. Please let the record show that it passed unanimously. At this point, I would like to have anyone from the public to please stand for swearing in for tonight.

All those wishing to speak or testify on today's items, please rise and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, we'll move on to the agenda items. First up...

Disclosures.

Oh. That's right. Well, it's going to introduce the item and then ask for disclosure. Makes sense. So the first item is case number UDP-V23008. Start with my left. Mr. De La Torres, any disclosures? None. Mr. Spence? I was contacted by the applicant's attorney. Okay. Ms. Scott? Um, Scannon? Spoke with applicant's attorney and site visit. Mr. Buckley? Spoke with the applicant's attorney. Mr. Lalwani?

Spoke with the applicant's attorney.

Okay, and I did a site visit and also spoke with the applicant's attorney. Okay. Mr. Lacri, the floor is yours.

Good evening, chair, vice chair, member, vice chair, members of the board, Robert Lockery on behalf of the applicant. The request before you tonight is for the vacation of a portion of an alley in the block, which you'll see in just a second, located in the Flagler Village neighborhood. It's specifically within the city's city center, regional activity center zoning category. It's located north of 5th Street. The block is located north of 5th Street, south of 6th. Third Avenue is on the west side, so it's east of Third Avenue. And fourth is on the east side, which in this case is on the right side. As you can see, the area that is outlined in yellow is the specific property that 501 Northeast Holdings, which is 13th floor, owns. And you'll see the remainder of the block. at the northern end of the block you will see peter feldman park and that comes into play with part of the vacation as i said we're asking to vacate a portion of the alley which is has our clients property on either side we will be dedicating back to the city and easement so that the alley can continue to be used in the future as a thoroughfare this is the property in question again it extends from Southeast 3rd Avenue on the left, which is on the west side, to 4th on Southeast 4th Street, I'm sorry, Northeast 3rd and Northeast 4th on the east side, which is to the right. 5th Street is on the south. This vacation is similar to other alley vacations that have occurred throughout the Flagler Village area. When Flagler Village or portions of it were originally plotted back in 1912, it was plotted with single family lots, essentially 50 foot wide lots, all which were bisected, the blocks were bisected by an alley. Over the course of the last 20 years as Flagler Village has developed, those alleys have been vacated as new developments have come in. In most of the cases, the entire block was vacated, but in certain portions, which you can see here, just portions of the alley, meaning the north portion or the south portion or a portion intervening were vacated by the city. And in those cases, an additional route was provided for the properties that still would remain on the alley. And I'll show you how that applies in this property. This is a section of the property that shows, or the block rather, which shows again our property in yellow, shows the area in green, which is the current right-of-way. And then the northern portion of the property, which is outlined in red, is where the alley used to extend. The city of Fort Lauderdale vacated that alley when when Peter Feldman Park was built and provided what I call an escape route or a pathway so that cars that are traveling from the south north to the alley now get out to the right. I'll show you that in a second. Get out to the right through a driveway. Our request is to vacate the portion of the alley, which you see here in the pink, which would be vacated. We are providing a, and it will be part of our MOT permit, an access way on the north side of our property while the building's under construction. And that allows for the alley to the building to be built and then a rededication of an alley of a right of rather an easement to the public. These are a little bit out of order, so I apologize for that. But this is the existing situation where the alley extends to the north and then cuts over to the east or to the right along city property at the north end. What we would be doing when the property is completed, this is the ground floor of the project where you'll see the pathway, the easement, which extends from 5th Street to the north where it will connect with the actual alley. There will be building both on the east, which is to the right, and to the west, which is to the left. Above that will be a portion of the building. This is the tower of the portion of the building, which will reach over that alley configuration. And at the end of the day, this is what will be left. There will be a access way through the building, which connects to the alley. It'll extend up to the north. And as it does today, where the alley dead ends at the north end, the escape is out to the east along a city driveway. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions or address any concerns that the board may have.

Does anyone from the board have a question for the applicant? Yes, Mr. De La Torres.

Yes, thank you. I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on here.

Okay. I apologize.

I probably went too fast. will be built above the alley and the alley will still give access to the public?

Correct. So the alley is being vacated. The right-of-way will be vacated. But as a condition of that vacation, the developer will be granting back to the city a three-dimensional easement. So essentially an easement for the width of the alley plus a height of 16 feet in this case, which we agree is a condition of the alley vacation. And I can give you some examples. This is a similar example south of the river where the alley was vacated north to where New River Yacht Club is located. And then the alley, again, the developer of the New River Yacht Club provided an easement so that those traversing the alley could go out through the building to the west. This is another example south of the river where the Publix is located, where the alley went to the north. In order to build the Publix, we vacated the alley and then provided an easement again, in this case, going out to the left, to the west in this case. In Flagler Village, you also see this with the development of Avenue Lofts, which was built with vacating an alley and bridges over the top, as well as the Pearl Project on 3rd Avenue, which has an alley that extends through the north and, again, under the building itself to escape out.

And those examples, were those vacated or they maintained it right away?

They were vacated, and then a three-dimensional easement similar to this was dedicated back.

So I'm trying to figure out, if it's still going to give you public access, what's the purpose of the vacation?

So right now, the vacation goes all the way to the moon or to the sky. By vacating that right-of-way and then dedicating an easement back, the public still has the access they have, but it does have a height limit, which allows us to build above that limit.

Okay, so we have to- And let me explain why.

Yeah, let me give you a little more background too. Ordinarily in this situation, in fact, when we first approached the city, the city said, well, look, we vacated the north end of the alley and we know it's a dead end. What we would prefer you to do is just vacate the whole alley. Then it's clean, which has happened on other blocks. The difficulty with that, and there's actually some correspondence in the backup, is there are property owners along the west side and along the east side, but particularly the west side of the alley, that do use that alley. And so for that reason, we're dedicating these back so that those properties will still have access to the alley. If we had controlled the whole block, we would have probably done as the city asked and vacated the whole block, or the alley and the whole block.

So is it your position as counselor that this PROPOSED VACATION IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE?

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT IS. SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. SURE. WHY DOES STAFF RECOMMEND THAT, FIRST OF ALL, STAFF DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU, ACCORDING TO WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UNLESS I'M IN THE WRONG PLACE.

The staff recommendation, there's not a recommendation against the vacation.

They don't agree that the proposed vacation aligns with the intent of the ordinance. That's my point. I'm asking you if you agree with that.

I think what you may be looking at are earlier DRC comments, which were addressed as we went through the process that I just explained. So in the staff report itself, and the original, again, when we originally applied, the city said, first of all, we were not proposing an easement back through the property. And secondly, the staff said, in that case, we prefer you to vacate the whole alley. And that's where we came back, working with staff, working with our neighbors on this solution.

I'm still not clear, but I'd like to hear from other board members.

Sure. I'M OPENING UP TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. DOES ANYONE HAVE, STARTING ON MY RIGHT, MR. LAJUANI? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

NO.

THANK YOU. MR. BUCKLEY? NO. MR. GANNON?

YES. SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THAT SLIDE UP THERE AND I LOOK AT THE ONE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT THAT IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY, ROBERT, Is the city building this there? The city is occupying that building right now. That's correct. Do they own it? I don't think they own it. All right. And I was wondering, I thought, I figured. It is for sale. I saw recently. So there are owners on the west and on the east, both. I see what you're saying.

I think their garbage picks up from that.

Oh, you think it's, okay, that probably could be the problem.

From my site visit, it looked like that was the access.

When I looked at it, the parking lots, all the access, every one of those properties had access from, I'm sorry, from First Avenue. Actually, two. They weren't blocked in totally. They just want, but they still want to use that alley.

Yeah, they still want to use the alley. I mean, clearly they all have access to the third, but a number of them have their parking in the back alley, and it's certainly a lot easier to get to those parcels through the rear.

All right. Then the easement will essentially, people driving on the easement in the alley are going to be driving through a tunnel.

That's correct.

And the building on this side, whatever's on this side with that and something over it.

That's right. The alley is 15 feet wide. The building will set back just as it would be as if there was a building there. So the fact that you've got buildings on either side is very common. The fact that there's essentially a bridge on the top of that portion is what's a little different from certain circumstances, but also is pretty common in Flagler Village.

Is it only a bridge or is the entire building? The entire building is sitting there. The entire building. It's really a tunnel, more or less, because the building goes way up beyond Flagler.

That's correct. That's correct.

Sounds strange to me to have people driving through 150 foot tunnel. And are we talking about 150 feet? The vacation said it was 150 feet. It doesn't look like, well, maybe it is. It looks like it.

Well, the portion where the building is over it is not 150 feet. It does extend a little bit further north for the properties that's on the right side.

Okay. All right. It just sounds a little bit strange going through there. It's got to be lit. What's it going to be in the building? Will there be...

Well, no, it'll be lit because some of our service areas are also off of that alley. Again, I know it's mainly because we don't drive down a lot of alleys, so that's part of it. But again, if you think of the New River Yacht Club example, it's a very similar situation where actually their main driveway on the drop off of Regatta now goes through that garage and extends out, as well as the Pearl in Flagler Village has a similar situation.

Similar, where the building is over the alley. That's correct.

The whole building is over the building. That's correct. Or rather, a portion of the whole building is over the alley. Ms. Scott?

Yeah, I'm comfortable with this. I think it's a win-win situation for the developer and for the residents, the other property owners. And I would just suggest you name it the Flagler Tunnel and move forward.

Okay. Good idea. Yeah. Um, I would like to ask, uh, exactly why is it that the entirety of the alleyway needs to be vacated if only a small portion of the alleyway needs to be vacated for this building?

Yeah. So we're only vacating the portion that's adjacent to our property. We're not vacating the northern portion. Let me say that I have another graphic. I think it was an earlier one.

Originally it was proposed to go all the way, but it's not now. Right.

Too many graphics.

Okay.

Yeah, essentially the green within the yellow box is the portion that's being vacated. I did have a slide that showed that red, but I must have left that in the office.

Okay, do I have any further questions? Yeah, I'd just like to ask Jim. I'm reading staff comments and I get conflicting reports. I guess I understand if I read it correctly. There's a chronological order that has been worked on for a number of months. What is the position today of staff?

So it's actually been two years, I believe, since they filed their application. You might be referencing the Development Review Committee responses and comments. When the initial application came in, there was the discussion, like Robert said, to not give us back an easement. So with that position, obviously we say you don't meet the criteria of vacating right away. Over the course of time, we've worked with the applicant where now they've committed to PUTTING IN AN EASEMENT FOR ACCESS AND FOR UTILITIES AS WELL, HAVE ACCESS TO UTILITIES. SO THAT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. SO THAT COMMENT GOT ADDRESSED. SO WE FIND THAT SOLUTION IS ACCEPTABLE.

AND WE ARE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR ORDINANCE?

YES.

OKAY.

I MEAN, YOU AS A PLANNING AND CERTAINTY BOARD, YOU MAKE THE DETERMINATION OR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION. WE GIVE YOU THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE GOT.

No, I can read it. I just get it now. It's been two years, so I'm reading a lot of stuff that's not necessarily applicable. Okay, thank you. You're welcome.

No further discussion. I'm going to bring it back to the board for either a motion.

I'll make a motion that we approve item 1 UDP v. 26008 with all the conditional comments from staff. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.

I WOULD JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, NOT AN ACTUAL APPROVAL. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT JUST USING THE PROPER LANGUAGE.

IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 1 UDP V26008.

CAN YOU DOUBLE CHECK THE NUMBERS, PLEASE? CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION WITH THE CORRECT NUMBER? AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY?

YEAH, I NOTICE IT'S 2-6 ON THE FOLDER, BUT IT'S 2-3 FOR THE CASE.

AH, GOT IT. SO THE UDP IS V-2-6, BUT THE CASE NUMBER IS DIFFERENT.

WHERE DO YOU SEE 2-6?

I'M SEEING IT. IT SAYS UDP V-2-6-008.

Looking at the iPad, it could be an error on the iPad, but all of our documentation is 2.3.

Okay, we'll be clear what I'm reading. Yeah.

I believe that the folder name is wrong on the iPad. The folder is labeled as 26008. It's 23008.

Okay, understood. Let me just make sure then that we're clear. So I'm motioning the recommendation of approval for Project Flagler Village Residences Alley Vacation under case number UDPV23008 with all the comments and conditions according to staff.

I'll second.

Mr. Lawani?

Yes.

Mr. De La Torres? Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr. Buckley? Yes. Mrs. Scott? Yes. Mr. Gannon?

Yes.

Vice Chair Donaldson?

Yes.

Motion passes.

Thank you. Thank you, Robert. Okay. Our next item on the agenda is case number UDP-T26009 and it is applicant is the City of Fort Lauderdale.

Lorraine tap and urban design and planning. Uh, the proposed amendment would allow warehouse facility uses as a conditional use in the B two zoning district, the general business zoning district. The intent is to expand opportunities for warehouse uses around the city. Uh, currently, uh, a lot of our warehouses are averaging in 22 feet in height. but according to a market study we received with the land use plan amendment application last fall, that more modern logistical systems require warehouses between 32 and 36 feet in height to accommodate vertical stacking systems. So there is a need to have more modern warehouses throughout the city. Now if someone did apply to have a warehouse in the B2 district, a property with the B2 zoning, They would be requesting it as a conditional use, which means the Planning and Zoning Board will review the site plan and also review the impacts on the neighborhood in addition to traffic impacts.

I have a question, Lorraine. May I? Yeah. Predominantly, where do we have the B2 zoning? Yeah, we have a good map to see.

There's some just west of 441 on State Road 84, 27th Avenue, 31st, and I-95. And then there are no B2 zoning districts within, you know, enclosed within any neighborhoods. They're all on major roadways.

This sounds good. Makes sense. Mm-hmm.

I'm opening up to the rest of the board, starting on my left. Mr. De La Torres, any comments or questions? No comments or questions, thank you. Okay, Mr. Spence? No comments. Mr. Gammon? No comments. Mr. Buckley? No comments. Mr. Lawani? No comments. Okay, if I could come back to the board, no comments or questions. If somebody could make a motion.

Is this considered a rezoning or a ULDR?

ULDR amendment.

It's a ULDR amendment. Thank you. I can make a motion. I move to recommend approval of case number T26009, a request to amend the City of Fort Lauderdale Unified Land Development Regulations, Article Two, zoning district requirements, section 47-6, business zoning districts, section 47-6-12, lists the permitted and conditional uses of the general business district to allow warehouse as a coordinated use. And the board hereby finds the text amendment are consistent with the comprehensive plan. Okay, can I? I'll second. I'll second.

Mr. Spence made the second. We can do a call.

Mr. Lawani?

Yes.

Mr. De La Torres? Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr. Buckley?

Yes.

Mrs. Scott? Yes. Mr. Gannon?

Yes.

Vice Chair Donaldson?

Yes.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Okay. At this point, thank you, staff, for everything on that. And then opening back up to the board, do we have any communication or comments that we would like to talk to the city commission? None. Anyone? None.

Okay.

All right, and then for the good of the City of Fort Lauderdale, we're going to be having an update on the Sailboat Bend Historic District Streetscape Master Plan presentation.

Okay, I have a question on this. It's not on the agenda.

Before we start. Pardon me? Before we start.

Yeah, before you start. It's not on the agenda. And who's here from Sailboat Bend? Who's here representing the neighborhood that would have great interest in this?

So just to give you kind of an overview of what our intent is with this presentation, it is really just to provide the board a little bit of an update of an ongoing project. We just completed some public feedback initiatives with an open house and a charrette and a preliminary presentation that all of the people from the Civic Association were invited to and participated in. So it's really just, this is a general update to the PZB members as it's an ongoing effort. We're not completed, it's midway through.

And so is the Planning and Zoning Board going to be voting on this or the City Commission?

Ultimately, we will be coming back to you just to show you what the project ultimately developed. We will do a presentation to the City Commission about what the ultimate development of this project would be as a guideline for the Sailboat Bend Historic District to use in new development.

Okay, so it's nothing we're going to vote on?

Correct. Yeah, it's really just, we thought this was, this is a nice project that we're working on, and we wanted to share that with the PCB members as it is planning-centric as we go along with the process.

Is the historic district already exist?

Yes.

Got it.

So I can see this at a later date, right? You could see this at a later date.

And just to clarify, it actually is on the agenda at the end. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes, it's listed under for the good of the city. It's not an actual agenda item because you are not voting on it tonight. Right. Yeah. All right. No problem. Well, good evening, everyone. I'm Tricia Logan. I'm the assistant planning manager, and I'm joined by Tyler.

How do you perform to a project manager on this urban planner assessment?

And so we're going to be co-presenting this a little bit just to give you an update. We'll keep it as brief as possible, but did want to share this information with you. So we are working on this streetscape master plan for the Sailboat Bend Historic District. It sits just south of Broward Boulevard and west of 7th Avenue, and then it's bordered on the south and west sides by the New River. We, I'll start with, we had a vision plan that was conducted starting in 2024. As part of that process, several elements were focused on including sea level rise and streetscape design, planning, community identity, and parks and open space. and that process collected feedback on all of those elements and something that was identified as a project to work on is the streetscape master plan. So we received feedback by introducing different ideas that were presented at an open house. Members of the community came and voted on different concepts that could be implemented on different streets that were focused on. We also had an online survey at that time where we collected feedback for different ideas. And some of those ideas were ultimately developed into more of a visual presentation for the neighborhood as a whole to show locations of where improvements could be located and specific ideas for different parcels that have potential for redevelopment. But this also, this primarily shows where those streetscape improvements could be located. So using this information, the consultant that we engaged with, Inspire Placemaking, started to develop more information. We're on a schedule, about a 12-month schedule, where we are, we started a few months ago with a consultant and We started with an existing conditions assessment, and then they've been developing materials for our recent public input effort, and then we'll go forward from there in developing the actual design guidelines and master plan document that will eventually come back to you just to see what the final concepts that we'll be presenting to the city commission and the community as well. So like I said, the first thing that we did was the existing conditions assessment. We went into the community with community members and the consulting team to assess deficiencies within the area or areas of opportunity where improvements could be made. We're looking at all the different streets because there's some similarities between streets, but there's a lot of differences So we wanted to make sure that we're capturing that when we're developing These design guidelines and I'll turn it over to Tyler now who's going to talk about our public feedback process Thank You Trisha and good evening chair members of the board just to

go over some of the feedback we received about a month ago. We did a really exciting three-day kind of public outreach initiative, which included an open house design charrette, a full-day design charrette, and preliminary concepts presentation. In the first open house, we introduced the project with our consulting team. They did a presentation, and we had boards set up so that the public could interact and engage and show what they would like to see in Selva Bend from a design and a streetscape preference. So were the green dots the likes? The green dots were the likes.

The red dots were the dislikes. Okay. So this is very visual in helping us understand where the neighborhood's interests lie.

Mm-hmm.

And we've got all of these documented. Good. And the second day was actually a full-day design charrette our consulting team hosted here at the city. And throughout the day, they were envisioning some of the feedback received from the public and kind of reimagining some of the more discussed spaces. Throughout the day, we had city staff come in and talk about and just engage with them and make sure that the goals and objectives of the city were represented when they were coming up with their design solutions for some of these roadways. And then on the third day, the consultant team in the city, we were able to showcase some of these preliminary concepts in the form of another presentation and some of the some of the kind of scratch drawings that were created as a result of that public feedback over the course of two days. It was actually a really exciting event and we had a lot of engagement, which was really nice. So some of the preliminary concepts had to do with the alleyways, reimagining those, and kind of providing public amenities and a nice space for people, which included concepts such as adding pedestrian lighting, multimodal pathways, and landscaping. And another point of discussion was actually Tequesta Park, Waverly Road, and Major Lauderdale Park, and kind of coming up with almost a radical idea of vacating Waverly Road and actually connecting those green spaces to strengthen that identity of the neighborhood. There were a couple other preliminary concepts that are still being hashed out, and they're still in draft format. So over the course of the next couple months, you'll start to see some of those more fully developed. And then if you would like more information on the project, you can visit our website. And then if anybody wants to get engaged, they can actually provide their feedback in our online survey on our website. And then as far as next steps, we'll be developing some of those recommendations in alignment with our consulting group and drafting that master plan report. And then eventually in the next couple of months, we'll be presenting back to the community and then back to you guys to give an update. And then ultimately early in 2027, we'll be presenting to the city commission to provide them with our background information. With that, I just want to open it up for discussion if you guys have any questions on it or comments.

Let's start with any of the board members. Any comments or questions?

The vacation of Waverly, that would just square that up?

Yep. Yeah.

Okay.

And then the other side of Waverly, you'd leave it?

We would leave it, yeah.

Okay.

Thank you.

I mean, obviously, it's just in concept form, and it's a big undertaking, but... Looked like a good idea.

My question is, on the being able to sign up to... TO GIVE INPUT, ET CETERA. ARE YOU REQUIRING THEM TO PUT IN THE ADDRESS SO WE KNOW HOW MANY REAL STAKEHOLDERS VERSUS OUTSIDE PLANTATION AND SUNRISE AND EVERYTHING? WE GET A LOT OF SPEAKERS HERE THAT DON'T LIVE IN FORT LAUDERDALE THAT ALL HAD AN OPINION ON PROJECTS, ET CETERA. AND SINCE THIS IS OUR ONLY HISTORICAL DISTRICT, Correct. Is it our only one is our 1st we have 2 where's the 2nd one.

Him or she village. Okay.

Just down the street. Okay. I was thinking of them as almost the same. Sorry. You know, I just want to make sure that we're very conscious as to the actual stakeholders that actually live there and are part of the city are getting the biggest impact on this. And so my concern is when we put something out there onto the web. THERE ARE A LOT OF OUTSIDE INTERESTS THAT MAY BE TRYING TO FUNNEL SOMETHING IN. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE HAD ANY WAY OF TRACKING HOW MANY OF THE VISITORS TO THE SITE AND TO THE FEEDBACK ACTUALLY REALLY LIVE THERE.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC ADDRESS. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE DISTRICT AND TO THE CITY AS PART OF THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

GREAT. Thank you.

Okay, that takes care of the rest of the agenda. Do we have any other comments or anything before I have a comment? Anyone? As I mentioned last month, you know, the fact that Commission and everyone else are off of their meetings and our board is meeting, it's another example of, I think, sort of a nothing's ever a waste of time but i think that we need to be with my concern having been on the budget chair for five years i know what a task that's going to be if this amendment passes in november and so we need to be looking at every type of cost savings and i think anytime that all of us are sitting in this room with only one item on an agenda like last month and now two, but really, you know, one that was of something that went to state statute. I think we need to be rethinking for summer of 27. From my conversation with some of the developers in town, and I asked, if you knew there wasn't a July meeting, would you be pushing your projects to be on the June agenda or the August agenda? Because everyone knows that there's no commission meetings in July and most of August. So everybody seems to be able to figure out how to get everything else done that has to be voted on. So I just want to put that into everyone's back of their mind is my comment. And I didn't know if anybody else had a comment on it. If you think I'm, you know, off key or not.

Did we discuss this last month? And when we discussed it last month, Did we go over what it would take to do that? Is there an ordinance change, a so-and-so, something or whatever? And can it be done? Who has authority to?

So you could do a communication to the commission expressing your desire to look at the code, because I believe it's in the code that you're supposed to meet once a month, unless it gets changed because of a holiday or so forth. So it would require probably a code amendment, which then requires commission to give policy direction to staff to do an amendment. That's one option. We can kind of, if you will, bring it up the flagpole internally with management to see if there's some desire as well. So it's up to you as a board what you want to do. I understand your frustration in some ways or like we look to make our resources as efficient as possible. But we do have applicants that are pressed against timelines because of the state statutes. And that's why we also had a presentation tonight, because since you were here, we figured let's add something to the agenda. And I appreciate that. So.

Personally, I would like us to wait as a board not to have a communication city until we know whether or not we are having a $27 million budget shortfall next year. So I would wait until after the vote in November, and if we are losing that kind of revenue for the city, that's when I think the commission would be much more open to any kind of suggestions that might be saving some dollars. So that would be my suggestion. Can I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? Motion to adjourn.