Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

Not on the agenda today.

If you're on the phone, that is star six to unmute.

Again, anybody who would like to speak on a matter that is not on the agenda today, star six to unmute. Okay, public comment is closed. We now move on to the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve?

Motion to approve.

Second that motion.

Do I have any discussion? Okay, are there any problems with that?

No, if the commission would like to pull that, that is okay with staff.

In that case, I believe the only thing that would be on the consent agenda would be one and three. So the approval of minutes and the detailed site development plan for, what is this called? That's before us right now So I believe we need to strike that motion

Yes. Okay. So we're gonna have the motion, who made the motion and the second to withdraw, please. Right.

Motion to withdraw.

I'll withdraw that second motion.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. All opposed?

Yeah.

Perfect, okay. Would you like to make your motion to withdraw? Or sorry, now that we have.

Now the consent agenda is now open for discussion or a motion.

Okay. You can make your motion to remove that from the agenda. Yes.

I didn't hear it.

He made a motion to remove item number two, major final, from the agenda.

It's not moving it from the agenda. It would be moving it to the, moving it from consent to regular. Right.

Do I have a second?

I'll second that motion.

Any discussion? All in favor?

Aye.

All opposed? Motion carries. That is now on the regular agenda. So, one and three are now the only items on consent agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda?

So moved.

Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Any discussion? All opposed? Motion carries, thank you. Okay, we move on to number two, Sunridge Unit 16.

Good morning. Chair and members of the Commission, Alonso Hernandez with Planning and Inspections. Item number two on the agenda is Sandwich Reach Unit 16 involving a major final application. This development is located within the city of El Paso limits and is located north of Windermere Avenue. This is a project superimposed on the aerial map and the applicant is proposing to subdivide Just one minute, please. I'm sorry. I apologize for that. The applicant is proposing to subdivide 2.56 acres into 12 residential lots. And the lot size ranging from 6,000 square feet to 7,000 square feet. Here we have the preliminary plat. I'm sorry, the final plat. That's the final plat. The preliminary plat was approved back in 2025. And related applications to this application is that in 2025, September 25, the preliminary plat was approved by the City Planning Commission, and the current proposal is compliant with the previously approved subdivision. And with this, the staff recommends approval of Sunridge Unit 16 on a major final basis. And this concludes the presentation. Thank you.

Thank you. Any questions for staff? Excuse me. Rudy, you're first.

Okay. Some questions. Environmental Services has noted on page 10 that the standard side-loading garbage trucks cannot safely maneuver the tight 20-foot street layout, forcing permanent parking ban on one side of the road. When we factor human error for the for the instance of the residents parking away from the curb this reduces the overall usable space especially when we have weather high winds dust storms low visibility. Our future buyer is going to be notified these permanent parking restrictions on the property deed. Additionally since the parks department has firmly stated on page 8 they declined to maintain the landscape median. Can the developer confirm that maintenance covenant will be explicitly cross referenced on the face of the final plot.

That's correct doing the preliminary plat review Environments and services they didn't actually provide comments. So the preliminary plat was approved as is right now Now they are requesting some changes changes that have been under review for the final process of the Improvement plans. So now the applicant is coordinating directly with land development with the city of El Paso in order to make some Corrections so being compliance with What environmental services is requesting at this time?

Okay. Yeah, that's my only concern was the road with if there's two cars parked or someone parked away from the curb then a mirror can get knocked off by environmental services doing their duties

Commissioner, this is Ismael Segovia, chief planner for subdivisions. I've been part of these discussions along with the case planner and with land development. And that's one thing that the applicant had said that they're looking at is doing one way and parking on one side. We do have a representative from land development present who has been coordinating. So if there's any questions, he may be able to help as well.

Thank you, Chairman.

Good afternoon. I have a question. Tierra Este Street, I thought it was going to connect to Windermere, so that's not the case, I assume then, right?

Can you go back to the presentation, please? Thank you. Can I go in the mirror? Can you go back to slide number three, Blanca, please? Yeah, I mean, right now, Windermere is not connecting with the subdivision. They have access through, what's the name of the street? New Valley Circle. So right now, Windermere is not connecting with the proposed subdivision. I don't know if that's the question.

I think his question was, is this subdivision's development going to stop Tierra Este from ever being able to connect to Windermere? I don't think so, because there's already a pond that would stop it, even if this subdivision wasn't developed. Was that your question?

Yeah, I had some plans that Tierra Este would connect to Windermere passing through that lot, so I assume that's not the case anymore, right?

Correct.

No problem.

There was a note in one of the department notes that said the covenants had to be recorded along with the plat. Is that this item? It is? OK.

Yeah. So Kevin Smith, line inspection. So when this comes in for recording, they're both those documents that would need to be accompanying the subdivision once it goes into the file at the county. So they'll be done concurrently.

Okay. So potentially this will be something that the applicant has to address that either it's a one-on-one?

Correct. Correct. And so a lot of these items, and I'm glad we're having this conversation, A lot of these items that are on the staff report, and actually Commissioner Cavazos, uh, Cavazier, you know, we just had a conversation about that a little bit earlier, is just because the Commission acts on it, there's still outstanding items that still need to be resolved. So whether it's corrections to the, the, um, the plat itself as it goes on, the mylars, which I know the Chair signs, to be recorded, and often there are other documents that need to be addressed and be included. Restrictive covenants are also one of those items that are there, as well as often articles of incorporation if there was a homeowners association who would, say, take over maintenance of some of the amenities over there, as I believe was mentioned about the city would not be maintaining, I believe, the medians in this location. So all of those would have to be done. If not, then the subdivision cannot be moved forward or be filed at the county.

Okay. Thank you. Can we hear from the applicant, please?

I think the applicant is not here in person, but I think they are on the line. Let me just confirm that.

For the record, we concur with all staff comments.

Would anybody like to ask the same questions for the applicant?

One of the questions I had was about the roadway width. If you're going to make it a one-way, then that helps alleviate the issue of bottlenecking of vehicles parked on both sides for the garbage trucks.

Right. It is a one-way. That's the way it was designed and presented at the preliminary plot stage as well. Yeah.

No further questions?

Any other questions? Okay. Thank you very much.

And if I can also, Mr. Rubio, I have a question about TRSA connecting to Windermere. But that is still planned to take place. The major plan does still show a connection. It's just going to be a little bit actually to the east where TRSA will be connecting still to Windermere in the future.

So will it be through what is currently that truck.

It's either that location or a little bit further east, but the connection will be made. There are some allowances for some minor shifting of the thrower plan based on topography, but that connection will still have to be made as also TRSA's plan to be, I believe, a major arterial there on the east side, so we'll see in that future area.

Okay. Thank you. Do I have a motion to amend the commission? motion to approve second any discussion all in favor aye aye all opposed motion carries thank you okay now we move on to the regular agenda which is going to be item number seven a rezoning application

Good afternoon, chair and members of the commission. Pratika Banjara with planning and inspection. Item number seven on the agenda is a rezoning request for the subject property at 6375 Montana Avenue. This aerial view highlights the subject property which is approximately 1.16 acres and is located north of Montana Avenue and west of Hereway Boulevard. The applicant is requesting to rezone the subject property from C2 commercial to C4 commercial to consolidate the property under the same zoning district. Plan El Paso, the future land use map for the central planning area designated the property as G7, industrial and or real yards. This site plan shows the existing use of shopping center on the subject property and only the portion marked in yellow is being considered for rezoning. This is the June version of the subject property and at this time the site plan is not being reviewed for compliance and is not binding. Here we can see a picture of the subject property taken from east away. Properties to the west consist of restaurants and are zoned C4, commercial. Properties to the north are zoned R4, residential, and are single family dwellings. The property to the east is zoned C3, commercial, and is a car wash. The property to the south is a part of the subject property and is a shopping center zoned C4. The applicant notified Nearby Neighborhood Association of the proposed rezoning, the Sunrise Civic Group, the El Paso Central Business Association, and CLO Vista Neighborhood Association. Public notices were mailed to the property owners within 300 feet on June 4th. As of today, the planning division received three calls of inquiry and one call in support of the rezoning request. And this is the notice map. With this, the staff recommends approval of the rezoning request. This concludes my presentation. Thank you.

Thank you. Any questions for staff?

I do. Ms. Banhara, is this a cleanup?

Uh-huh, yeah, it's a cleanup.

Because it goes right through the building, or at least a corner of the building, so I figured, you know, this is something that's really old, and now we're cleaning it up. And also, I'd just like to comment that that's where I dry my truck. I go through the car wash, and I park right next to that building there, because it's shady, and I dry my truck.

Uh-huh.

All the time.

I think I think is that what was great to set up in a this is a clean up rezoning for some reason. It is 2 zoning districts and the applicant just wishes to consolidate under one. Which is the seat for request.

Any other questions. Thank you to hear from the applicant.

Good afternoon, George and that's a lot of engineering we lost have comments.

Any questions for the applicant. Thank you. OK. Do I have a motion on commission?

Motion approved.

Sorry. This is a public hearing. Is there anybody that would like to speak about this item, either here or on the phone? Again, that's star six if you're on the phone. Okay, public comment is closed. Now I will entertain a motion.

Motion to approve. Second.

Any discussion? All in favor?

Aye. All opposed?

Motion carries, thank you. We move on to number eight, which is a special permit application.

Good afternoon, chair and members of the board. Alejandra Gonzalez with Planning and Inspections. Item number eight on the agenda is a special permit application for the subject property located at 8009 Mitsuram. Here we have an area of the property that shows, this area of map shows the property which is .18 acres in size and is currently vacant and has been for more than 15 years. The property is zoned R4 residential. The applicant is requesting a special permit and details at development plan approval for infill development with reduction to average loft width for a proposed use of a tuplex. The use is permitted in R4 zoning district, but the laws do not currently meet the zoning dimensional requirements. The stipend shows the proposed layout of the property. which includes a one-story building, which is highlighted in magenta, which consists of two attached rowing units for a total of 2,240 square feet, and the applicant is providing four parking spaces to the front. The applicant is requesting the average load weight reduction from 70 feet, which is required, to 50 feet. Here we have the proposed elevations. This is the subject property built from mid-serum. The requested reduction in lot width promotes efficient land use while remaining consistent with the development pattern and surrounding properties. The proposed development fits the character of the area and supports the city goals of encouraging small growth and infill development. Here we have the surrounding development, which includes single-family dwellings to the north, south, east, and west. The applicant notified Logan Sunrise and Mountain View Neighborhood Associations, and notices were mailed to property owners within 300 feet on June 5, 2026. As of June 17, the Planning Division has received two emails in opposition. Here we have the notice map. With that, staff recommends approval of the special permit and details our development plan request.

This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions?

I do, through the chair. Ms. Gonzalez, this lot has never, ever been developed. They built all the houses around there and then left that one empty for whatever reason.

Yes, that's correct.

Thank you.

The detailed site development plan, it is binding on style, correct? Yes. Is it binding on color? This is strange, but it's going to have parking space lines, right? Yes. Are they going to be bright yellow, or can they be white? Just personally, I think it would be really jarring if in a neighborhood, in a residential neighborhood, there were bright yellow lines on the concrete, I think white wouldn't be that obtrusive.

Yeah, if I might do some model planning inspection. So technically, they're not required to stripe. Residential properties do not really require striping for parking. That's up to the applicant or the owner if that's what they want to do. I'm pretty sure they will consider that. The other thing is we cannot, if I say law, we cannot restrict colors typically as well.

But I think if I can, I think that's something we can work with the applicant on, just the colors of the striping.

So if they're not required to do striping, but they are required to abide by the detailed site development plan that we approve, if we approve this one, are they required to do the striping? I think the striping is a good idea because we're going to hear problems about parking. So it is important to say there are two parking spaces on each side. I just personally, if I lived there, I would hate to see bright yellow on the side. It's not that important.

Yeah, so so I think on that I think right now the commission can make a note and if whatever the decision is right now can make a note about it and we can go back to the applicant and can I make sure that if he he would like to address it right now to the site plan to avoid that issue because it could be an issue where you know you're required to comply and it's showing So that's something that we can discuss with the applicant prior to city council approval because this item obviously needs a council approval as well.

Okay. Thank you. Madam Chair, I do have one question. Is this going to be the only property within that residential area that's going to be a multifamily?

There are already two. properties that are complex as well. The front of the property across the street.

Across the street from this property, directly across the street.

And I think to Commissioner Bryant's question, I believe on the other side of, on the back side of this property, there's some properties zoned apartment, I think A2. So there's multifamily at that location as well.

Is that in the presentation?

Yes, I can't put the presentation I believe is on slide three Yeah, so those are properties just to the left there in yes orange Those would be I think those are more than single-family.

Let me just say Thank you any other questions Thank you Can we hear from the applicant please?

Hello.

Do you agree with all staff comments?

I'm sorry?

First, what's your name? And second, do you agree with all staff comments?

Oh, my name is and I am the homeowner. And I agree with all comments. There were only two objections that I received on Tuesday. And I guess my reply to those is just I have these documents provided as well for you guys to see. Let me showcase you them.

Oh, sorry. Here you go.

For the record this is a photo of the street which was also in the packet that was posted publicly Anybody on the Commission like me to pass this around? Okay

Show you guys because the main issue with it was the narrowness of the street and For transparency on that corner lot the house that is being built all those vehicles are subcontractors and contractors from that area and and so um both the issues from the neighbors were really the narrowness and the way for traffic ongoing and in going to come in and it's just um it's not the reality of how the normal traffic would go because again titanic road on the north it's a new development and so there's going to be new hurdles from contractors and subcontractors coming in and out And that picture that was passed around, that was from yesterday at 6 p.m., and you could see that the normality of those hours in the street regularly, they're not going to have those vehicles ongoing on the property on a normal day-to-day basis.

And this is facing Titanic?

Yes, ma'am.

Do we know what time the pictures, the north, south, east, west pictures on the presentation were taken? I don't know if whoever took those pictures is here. Okay, can we go back to that slide?

There's pictures on the presentation?

The one that shows north, south, east, and west from the property? Oh, yeah. Perfect. That one.

Because we're taking it in the morning.

In the morning.

Okay. Yes. 8 a.m.? 9 a.m. 9 a.m.

Okay.

And then, Alejandro, if you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that there's no parking on the eastern side, sorry, the western side of Mitzi Ram. So this is an enforcement issue that the city would work with the police department for appropriate action.

Yes. So if I'm reading this correctly, the North is facing Titanic with the property on the left side of that image. The West is at the back of the property. Okay. The South is you on the, like you can see the street that's immediately in front of the property, right?

Yes.

Okay. And what's the one to the East across the street. Okay. Perfect. Any other questions for the applicant or for staff?

I do. A couple of things. I would recommend for staff to give us all the information and not on the day of the meeting. If they're going to give us a picture, one picture for everybody to share or a picture from a phone. I mean.

Which means provided by the applicant. So that is not a staff. But we're hoping they're applicants in case there's items they would like to share with the commissioners.

So that when we're here, we make a good educated decision on what we're faced with instead of being here and here's paper, here's a picture and a phone.

Most definitely, we'll work on that on our end.

Okay. And then the other thing, Madam Chair, this is your time to ask for nine yellow lines to the builder.

What color lines are you going to stripe with?

White.

Amazing and for the hue the under color I would like red I'll be there to swatch if you don't mind Thank you very much. Any other comments questions for staff or the applicant? I

I just had a quick question. I know this was in the presentation. So it's a and there's four parking spaces, two for each unit, or is it one for each unit?

Yes, sir. There's four in total. Thank you. Again, just taking everything into consideration. There's only two that are required, but we're putting four for, again, the combustion of the street, ongoing traffic inside and outbound. Great. Thank you so much. With white lines, apparently.

thank you so this is a public item a public hearing we have at least one person signed up to speak it seems like there might be a lot of people here to speak today can you please raise your hand if you're planning on it hang on speaking is there just one person okay perfect miss anayata can you please come up sorry i'm just a school teacher but um i've never done anything like this That's okay.

You have three minutes to speak. Can you please say your full name and then you can start. My name is Annaletta and I am the OG of the block. This site has never been developed until about three years ago. A huge issue that I have is huge vehicles getting through my street like school buses and trash trucks and emergency units. The problem is the odd side of the street, west, east, I don't know, I have dyslexia. You can't get down the street. I have called 311 when the contractors first developed that side of the street because they took down the fire lane signs. And they told me that as long as the signs were up both sides of the street that it was okay now nobody adheres to it and I worry there was a special education bus this year trying to get down the street and they would have to stop and go into a parking somebody's like a little parking area just to get down the street when the trash truck comes It takes forever because you can't get down the street because people are parking on both sides. It's awful. Heaven forbid there's ever a fire, an ambulance. How are they going to get through? When I was teaching my daughter to drive, One person was coming this way and we couldn't come at the same time. Something has got to be done. Okay, it's ridiculous. As far as the four parking spaces, I am grateful, but oftentimes there are people with more than two cars. The mailman has put, please do not park your car near the mailbox, because he can't even get to the mailbox. The picture that I provided to you guys in my email, was on saturday and it was not some contractors it was someone was having a get together like they're allowed to do and they had a bunch of cars i took that picture because i couldn't get down the street that is my concern my concern is when i walk my dog I got three. When I walk my dog, I get almost hit on almost a weekly basis. Why? Because people turn that corner and there are cars parked there. Now there's gonna be four more cars, hopefully in spots, hopefully they know how to park, but to get out of their driveway, that's a challenge, because it's on a corner. And I worry. And I'm the OG of the block.

Okay? You've reached your three minutes.

It's important for you to hear.

Is there anybody else from the public who would like to speak? And that's star six to unmute if you're on the phone. Okay. Thank you. Public comment is closed. I will entertain a motion from the commission and then we will open it up for discussion.

Move to approve.

Do I have a second?

I'll second that motion.

All right, let's discuss.

Through the chair. Staff, Ms. Gonzalez. Yes. There's gonna be a whole side of that street where there's no parking, correct? No. On the street?

It already exists. People park in it, but it already is a no parking.

Wait, what side of the street again? On the side where this development's gonna be built? That side of the street is a no parking?

It's, let me show you in the area.

Which is the west side?

It's on the opposite side of this development, yes. where it used to be the no parking sign.

And they removed those parking signs.

I'm not, I don't have that information.

To Mr. Borrego, we're verifying with our streets and maintenance department. There should be signs up. There were signs up previously from what we saw. I'm not sure why they removed. We're verifying and making sure that those are re-implemented. We're also working with the police department, as I mentioned, for enforcement action. Because again, if it's striped or signed no parking, that means no parking for anyone.

So, let me ask then. If that side of the street is going to be no parking, it's mainly for fire engines,

emergency vehicles is that or or just for because it's too narrow it is a narrow roadway it appears that there's about 25 feet of pavement so one side there would be parking on and would allow for two-way traffic um so one of the lanes one of the lanes would be close to the curb

Because what I'm getting at, because if it's for emergency vehicles, they could paint that whole curb red and it really stands out and people know not to park as opposed to signs. But if it's not for that, then signs will have to do. It's a whole block.

Yeah, and we'll be talking with the streets and maintenance department, and I'll be talking with the speaker about this as well, so I can better understand and relay these concerns over the streets and maintenance department, because it feels like that there's more issues on it than just a couple of random people parking where they shouldn't park. And I think there's some other measures that could be taken to address the concerns brought up.

Thank you.

Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, I understand the speaker's concerns. They seem to be legitimate, but it seems like a separate issue from, you know, this. It seems like it's something that streets has to fix. But it's a separate issue. I don't think it should actually stop us from moving forward with the approval. That's what we're going to do.

I do agree with that, especially because this is going to have more than adequate parking. I agree with the red curb painting. I'm not sure if that's something that's possible or when that is implemented.

That's a separate issue with streets and maintenance. We cannot foresee the developer. This is not something that they caused or that they would cause. So we cannot put it on developer. That's a city issue.

Okay. You can see across the street, not exactly across, but slightly to the south, there is a house or a duplex that has double parking, and even though one of them is parked diagonally, I mean, they are using the double parking. So I agree that if we were to deny based on the parking, we would kind of be taking it out on the wrong person. That's my thought on it. Is there anybody else who would like to discuss?

I just don't see any reason why to hold it back, but the property being vacant, develop the property, I don't think it's going to hinder the traffic. It's going to have off-street parking. I don't see any reason why not to proceed with it.

Okay. We'll open it for a vote. All in favor?

Aye.

All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. We have one more item, which is a presentation on zoning regulations for development projects.

So good afternoon, Madam Chair and Commissioners. My name is Saul Piña, and I am a senior planner with the zoning section of Planning and Inspections. And today I'll be talking about zoning regulations for development projects. So in essence, and the main intent of this presentation is pretty much to discuss or go over how planning staff systematically evaluates any type of incoming proposal, whether it is residential, whether it is commercial. Staff will review and advance or proceed with review procedures based on a few basic guidelines. And basically, we will then proceed with a few additional case studies by which we will reference these same guidelines. So like I was mentioning, before any type of construction project comes in to our departments, we pretty much evaluate any type of project, whether it is residential or commercial. Of course, we do encourage citizens and developers to visit our department and to discuss their types of proposals that they may have. Once they do that, We conduct a preliminary review by pretty much using GIS mapping and also emphasizing in our municipal or city code. And so in the next slides, I'll be talking about two important things found in the municipal or city code that are highly essential in reviewing these types of projects. So here I am showing an example of what Appendix A consists. And as you can see from these details, Appendix A does show a list of multiple uses that are codified in our city code. And to continue describing this table, As you can see on the upper portion of this table, there are various zoning districts by which we can notice or tell whether these same uses are permissible or not. And so in essence, as you can see, there is an example for multifamily use. Of course, multifamily use is permitted in mostly all apartment and high intensity zoning districts. And as shown to the right of this table, there are also supplemental regulations that may be applicable to this same use or uses. Next, here is a snippet or image of Appendix B, which pretty much shows the dimensional standards, setbacks, and high limitations that pertain to any type of construction project, whether it is residential or commercial. And in essence, as I mentioned before, here is a list of use by which information about lot size, setbacks, and height is displayed. And of course it is considered for any type of construction that planning staff reviews. Of course, if there is a proposal where dimensional standards or setbacks are not met, we do have other types of relief or mechanisms, some varying from very simple ones, like for example, legal nonconforming, to most complicated ones, like for example, special permit. Of course, as you may have noticed, special permits do come here and they are presented to the commission and later reviewed by city council and approved. And lastly, here is an example or snippet of Appendix C, which pretty much shows all uses listed or codified along with additional information pertaining to pretty much parking requirements. So in essence, as you can see from this example, parking requirements are applicable depending on the size of the building. Additionally, there may be also other requirements applicable, for instance, bicycle and heavy truck parking, where they may be dependent on the actual development itself. In this case, as you may be able to note, there are additional notes by which we also take a look at, like for example, under bicycle, there is a section that says note three, and that pretty much pertains to additional requirements such as accounting for an additional 5%. whenever the size extends or expands the parking requirement to more than a 5%. So in summary, this is how all of the appendices tie together to the types of developments, whether they're residential or commercial. And so in summary, Appendix A focuses mostly in permitted uses, whether they're permitted by right or whether an additional mechanism is needed for the use to be fully permitted. Appendix B pertains to density and setbacks, which pretty much restricts the development. And Appendix C pertains to parking standards are applicable to any type of development and to any type of building size. So next, I'll be talking about a few case studies by which they may have been presented to the City Plan Commission before. And so in summary, this is a property located off of 422 South Diablo. The applicant proposed to have commercial uses on this same property. Back then, the zoning of this property was Radicham Farm. And so the applicant went through a rezoning process in order to have this zone changed to commercial. And so as referenced on this slide, the rezoning was approved but with conditions that were established to pretty much safeguard the surrounding properties. Those conditions were limited to additional high intensity commercial uses and additional requirements such as landscaping buffers, et cetera. Here is a second case. This property is located off of Dell Road. And so the applicant for this property proposed to add eight single family houses and two duplexes on one single lot. You can see this on the image to the left. And so, of course, by taking into account the fact that Appendix A does permit the use of single-family dwellings and duplexes on that same zoning, the reason why a special permit was required was due to the fact that there was a restriction in density requirements. So what that meant was that the applicant was required to submit a special permit in order to permit a planned residential development so that these proposed dwellings could have been constructed. And lastly, this is a case study where the applicant was proposing to do a land use conversion per se. The existing property had a single family dwelling and the applicant intended or proposed to convert the single family dwelling to a triplex or a multifamily use. And so the use permitted the construction of that triplex, but the applicant was limited to developing the same triplex because this was a small lot. So basically, the lot dimensions restricted the applicant to further develop the same proposal. And so the applicant went ahead, visited our department, and applied for a special permit in order to allow for the same uses. In addition, it was also requested that a parking reduction had to be done. And the reason was those required parking spaces wouldn't fit in the same property. So in essence, or in addition, the applicant went ahead and applied for the same special permit to see if city plan commission and city council would grant approval to reduce setbacks, to reduce lot sizes, and to permit a parking reduction. And so in conclusion, appendices A, B, and C are a principal element to planning staff since planning staff does review meticulously and takes into account every single detail, every single proposal that comes into our department. And as seen on these same case studies, we can note that using these same appendices, appendix A, B, and C, are important for not only metrics, but also to protect the integrity of existing and surrounding areas. And of course, by using the same appendices, planning staff ensure that all projects are code compliant and are ready for subsequent permitting and construction. And so this concludes my presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Any questions?

I do, quite a few. Mr. Pena, thank you for the presentation. I sort of kind of know all this, but I tend to forget things, so a reminder works just like this. On case study number three, I remember that a year or two ago. And there was a lot of talk about parking and everything, and that happened in the Segundo Barrio. And that's one of the reasons why they come to the Planning Commission, because of different things that happened within different neighborhoods, the way they were built way back then, and how we can include more. And I get that. That's great. I like that. The other thing, Mr. Pena, is... How do you define heavy truck? And the reason I ask is because sometimes people call me, my neighborhood association, that Mr. Joe Blow is a trucker and he parks his truck and he takes two houses, you know, and I say, well, you know, I know those big trucks. He goes, but what about contractors that have trucks with trailers? So what defines a heavy truck?

So to answer your question, Mr. Borrego, planning staff pretty much has on their resources the municipal code by which perhaps that information may be available under the definition section of Title 20. This question pretty much pertains to transportation engineering. So I guess if there is a technical definition that may have to be given. I don't know if Mr. Smith or Mr. Zamora can jump in.

Yeah, I think Mr. Smith bailed out for now. Luis Zamora with Planning Inspections. So I think one of the things that we probably obviously did not mention right now is that the Title 20, the zoning code, does have a section for definitions. Which is kind of what we used to obviously for us to clarify certain terms Especially uses and we do have one of the definitions. Well heavy truck is defined there So I'd like to share with you any stays here on section 20.0 2.4 36 heavy truck means every truck with a manufacturer's rated carrying capacity exceeding two tons Two tons. Yes So that's for the city. That's something that we classify as a heavy truck.

So two tons and up is a... Okay. Because there are pickup trucks. There are two tons. Okay. Thank you.

Following up on on your comment. So so big trucks the the 18-wheeler type trucks They're not allowed to to park in the city, right? They should be parking on a parking lot where they're supposed to go, right and

Yes, that is correct. And like I mentioned before, that is dependent on the type of existing or proposed development. So that is why, like it was shown before, there are some requirements that may be applicable or not. In this case, it all depends on whatever is existing or proposed, which would be the building's area or massing.

so if somebody's having that problem in their street who who should they call to resolve it just to add to that yes possibly so let me just add um so there's a difference between the heavy trucks being parked within a property and on the street, right, because the street is technically open for everyone. As far as we know, and I think this does go into more like the streets and whoever maintains the street, and police, or the code enforcement section, because I think for the, Major the majority of the issues on the street They do look into the zoning districts if it's a residential area Technically they may not be allowed. I want to say it's not because I'm not sure that's outside of our purview But what I've heard is that they typically will say you cannot park like heavy trucks like commercial vehicles well big commercial vehicles on residential areas. Now we've noticed in the past that typically zoning goes from the middle of the street to a property. So let's say you have a home on one side and you have business on commercial on the other side, it's possible that the city will allow them to park on the other side because it's commercial. But again, that's something that kind of falls outside of our purview will typically will look more into just the land use right of a certain property and we do have requirements about whether they can keep a commercial vehicle in there or not.

Mister Samara I think you are correct because big trucks are allowed in commercial areas but it's my understanding that they're not allowed in residential and that's why I asked what the what it is so now I know in residentials two tons and up are not allowed you know so but you are correct areas that are commercial you've got to give them the space so that they can operate

Yeah, so I will just add that we will have a code enforcement obviously division anytime there's an issue with whether it's permit or not, then that section should be going and checking on that. So I will just recommend obviously calling 311 and making the concern, putting that concern out there for the city to go and check. And there will be obviously the appropriate staff that will go and check and make sure whether they're confirmed, whether they're complying or not with the regulations.

Any other questions? Thank you.

Thank you.

Anything else before we adjourn?

Nothing from staff. We just, like always, we appreciate you greatly for taking your time to be with us, helping us be better, and thank you for your service to the city as always. So I personally am grateful, and I know staff is grateful too, so we appreciate you all.

Thank you.

Move to adjourn.

All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Y'all have a great afternoon.