Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

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Okay. Let's call to order the meeting of the Parks and Rec Commission of El Dorado County. The time is 3.04. And we're going to do a roll call.

Yes, Commissioner Hospitalier.

Here.

Commissioner Deneva. Here. Commissioner Mullins-Becker.

Present.

And then Commissioner McLaughlin.

Present.

And Commissioner Lowry is absent. Okay. I'd like to believe you understand that.

And I guess we're just going to pretend it's a little bit of a problem. And we're going to leave it. Let's serve. And over your hearts, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, the adoption of the agenda and approval of the consent calendar.

I'd love just briefly to take the annual goals update out so we can talk about it. Otherwise, I'm going to put it there.

I would like to pull Zach's update. I just have a quick question on that, which is number two. Anything else? How about you, John? Anything? Danny?

No.

Okay.

What comment?

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No, unfortunately.

OK, no comments. Can I have a motion? Move. Second? Second.

OK, next is open forum.

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Moving on to our agenda items, let's speak to item two, which is ZAP's report on the updates for project. The only thing I wanted to ask, could you go over phase two for 4B again with us? I know you've talked about it, but the link escapes my brain. Because we, I believe you mentioned that we do have a grant that's been awarded to us. So just a little update on that, please.

Yeah, so we were conditionally awarded about $1.4 million from the Land and Water Conservation Fund for phase two of the Four Bay Park project. So just kind of starting at the beginning, phase one is really not much park-like in management, right? So with the budget that we had, the original 1.4, really all we were going to get was a septic system, water line, an improved parking lot, and an ADA-accessible restroom building. And so with getting this conditionally awarded funding, and I use the word conditionally because we still have to go through the environmental process to make sure that we're in alignment there, so long as we can make sure all of those requirements are met, then we would get the full award and receive the fund. Phase two is really going to be those park-like amenities. So it's going to be installation of senior exercise equipment. It's going to be a playground for, I believe it was an all-inclusive playground And then also inclusion of the dog park and then starting to look at things like the perimeter trail and then the disc golf course. So it was more of those park like amenities that would be looking to incorporate into the second phase. They're kind of prioritized and more of like the senior exercise equipment and park equipment and dog park were like the top three of those phase two amenities, depending on what The cost comes out based on the engineers estimate of the design, which we haven't done because we didn't have funding for that. So as we get into the design, we'll start to solidify some of those amenities that are going to be within the budget. But those were kind of the hierarchy that we had heard from the community. So it was senior exercise equipment, playgrounds, dog park. And then if we still have funding remaining after the design and installation of those amenities, it'd be perimeter trail disc golf.

Great. Thank you. I just wanted to bring pressure on that. That's all, that's all I have for that.

So I didn't have one question that we've unpacked for project update, or I guess I just want to say, um, just thanks for your comments and like, you know, I'm glad to see the engagement, um, with the, both the adopted trail programs, um, and just general community engagement.

Um, I took the Liberty of going over to a couple of playgrounds we have up here. and get an idea of what kind of surface, because it was talked about before, what kind of surface we needed to put in. And it might be worthwhile for somebody else to take a look at it. One of the ones at the old Parks and Rec building is kind of a ground-up tire type of complex. And it looked like it was pretty good for people that would fall on it or kids wouldn't get hurt. So I just wanted to throw that out as an idea to look for a surface that might work and probably doesn't have to get into the real costly ones, which are unfortunately what Dartman are going to be like.

Thanks, Dan. Okay. Any public comment on this?

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Thank you for that update. That helps. OK. Item number three. This is a recommendation to the commissioners, the Department of Park and Recreation Commission, 25, 26 annual goals. Torrin brought this up and we've talked about this before that we would have like an ongoing, this item would be an ongoing item on our agenda. We placed it on the consent calendar at this time, just so that we could pull it off if we wanted to. Or if you want to have it as a standing agenda item, and there's nothing to report, there's nothing to report. So whatever makes it easy, it's on staff, or whatever makes more sense, we can continue with that going forward.

I like the idea of just having it kind of barked on consent, and if there's things you guys want to discuss, pull it off, have the discussion, and then if it's not much, we still kind of have it there. Okay. Sure.

All right. So that's fine. Okay. So... I want to hear from everybody what your thoughts are on the particular goals that have been attached to this item. We have 24-25, and we have 25-26, and then a proposal for 26-27. So, Zach, do you want to take this away, and we'll kind of talk about each different thing as it comes along?

I was looking mostly at the one that we had attached to the 25-26 annual goals master plan initiatives. And Jan put this item together and we were kind of doing our review this morning. And I was actually very impressed at the progress you all have made. I mean, we're really kind of chipping away at every one of these. I don't know if there was areas where maybe we want to discuss a little bit. We have the two D2 goals there at the bottom of the first page, which are lofty goals, right? So these are ones that... NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING YOU CAN TACKLE IN A YEAR OR EVEN NECESSARILY A COUPLE YEARS, BUT I KNOW EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN DISTRICT 2, AID IN THE EFFORTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 30-ACRE TRAIL IN ELDEROTTA HILLS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER LOWERY IS VERY INTERESTED IN. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE, I, AND JOHN HIDAL HAD MET ON BEFORE HE PASSED. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WAYNE WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME TO FRUITION, HOW WE GO ABOUT STRATEGIZING AND AIDING IN THE EFFORTS THERE. You know, definitely open the discussion. I mean, a lot of this has come down to the ability to find funding to improve that sort of thing. You know, we're always looking for grant opportunities and things like that. But outside of that sort of thing, you know, we don't have a park impact fee or other sort of funding sources that would kind of support the development of that sort of amenity. You know, one option is maybe there has been discussions of a larger planning effort with the SBTC JPA. If that's the case and that moves forward, maybe that's an avenue we entertain this item and say, hey, you know, if we're going to be looking at a planning effort for trail improvements, you know, there is this desire to have a trailhead improved in that area. That might be one thing where we can maybe bring it up at a future JPA meeting and just kind of feel it out in that regard. Outside of that, I am not really seeing a lot of available funding for that sort of thing. I think that's really what it would take to kind of get that moving. And then for the other one, eating and the development of a park in the community of Grizzly Flat, same sort of thing there. I mean, it's tough for us because the sort of QMB fees we get are not commensurate of building a new park. And so there again, it would be looking for some sort of alternative funding source to kind of support that sort of effort. So yeah. I guess my expectation of the commission would just be like keeping your eyes and ears open or if you're at chamber meetings or, you know, friends up, things like that. I mean, having it in your mind if people say, hey, you know, what's on your to-do list? I mean, you can always put it out there. And if there's opportunities for us to try to partner with other people out in the community that are trying to do similar things, we're definitely open to it. I just think as the parks division, these ones are going to be tough because a lot of these are financially driven.

Right. Is there, do you think there's any funding available like through Cal Fire or from the Caldor Fire and that sort of thing? Because of the Caldor Fire, are there any funds that might be available through that? Because that whole area was, you know, pretty much because of the fire. So I just wondered if there was anything. So I know we have gotten some funds through the Veterans Commission to help some of the veterans out there. So just a thought.

Not that I've seen, but we can certainly look into it and see what's out there. I know a lot of grant opportunities that we've seen come across our desk recently are really around defensible space, hardening structures, and stuff like that. I don't know if that kind of expands to development of new amenities. Yeah. But a lot of it is around, you know, sure. And that definitely makes sense.

That's just a thought. Because I, I agree with you. That is a lot of goal. And number one, how would you support it through maintenance? That's a long drive out there.

Yeah.

That is it. And that's,

part of some of what we've had in our master plan, being very thoughtful about what amenities we're bringing online, considering the ongoing maintenance obligations and things like that, and how spread out we are in the county.

I'm sorry. With those two concepts in mind, is my read of the master plan, I don't know if I see things that are like, we're under resourced in certain park amenities that these parks could provide.

right like trails more trails what I read really yeah more passive regional focus yeah really kind of what the outcome was so I mean a potential could be helping support the community create their own tax district or something like that if there was really this groundswell of support right in the grizzly flats area people hey we really want to get a part you know I mean maybe that's something we could help yeah something like that just because Um, you're right. I mean, the outcome of the master plan is really trying to focus on the regional sort of amenities, just because we do have those other improvement areas in the county that have been provided more of that neighborhood and community partnership.

Do you think at some point, maybe over the next few months or something, we could agendize this, um, the development of 38 acre. So we could get an update on it and you guys, you and Wayne and, um, could help us navigate through that and what that would take and what would it look like. A little broader picture as opposed to just a concise one that you could give us now. Because I think that, if anything, might have more of a possibility for funding.

Because the developer, or is it developer land or is this the one that's the school district land?

It's adjacent to school district land. Currently owned, I believe, by a developer. But yeah, I mean, part of it could just be kind of setting the table, giving more background. Sure. Kind of like where we're at and maybe potential paths forward. And it would also be more in alignment with the master plan. It would be part and parcel of the regional amendment.

Any other thoughts on it? I looked at the review of the El Dorado Trail Master Plan. I'm assuming that That we are going to move forward to 2027. You noted on here under static that we can start in July. So we would put that as part of our goals for 2027. I would assume it will probably carry over. I didn't see it. That's why I was wondering.

That one also, I think we should also kind of consider coupling that with interactions with the JPA, right? I mean, those are things that we're going to have. you know, finding efforts, ideally we can just parallel plan and we can try to combine the forces there, but yeah, we can talk about that one a little bit more as well.

Okay, that would be good. I was looking at the additional parks and trail master plan initiatives to consider. I was wondering how I'm curious about initiative 2.45. Continue to accept, encourage, and promote donations to fund capital projects and many different means for it. How would we go about doing that? Would we go about doing it through another nonprofit such as like Rotary or Kiwanis? I mean, what were your thoughts on that? I'm on the additional part. Thank you.

Yeah. I just have the things. Item five, we have your

Future considerations. Oh, I'm jumping ahead. Okay.

Never mind. Okay. So do we have anything else to discuss in regards to item number three?

I have one, which was just a format for the river management plan. Can we just say that's done? or like this initiative, 1.4.10, in collaboration with American River Island Federals and the Federal Board of Energy Identifying Treatments, as opposed to that.

Well, let's see how I've come with it. I mean, I will say it is still ongoing.

Because it's not gone to supervisors yet.

Correct. So, I mean, as of right now, we've incorporated all the recommendations from our meeting with CLAC. And it's going through legal counsel review. And so we don't have a planning commission date scheduled yet, but we'll be finishing up those updates once we get it back from legal counsel. But I would say I would probably leave it as ongoing until we give it to the board just because it could come back to you all. Who knows, planning commission might reach out to you. Okay.

Okay. John, did you have anything you wanted to add to this?

I was just curious about the river management plan and what the outcome was. I never heard back. We left it on the table for Zach to get with the river team. What was your feedback, basically?

I think so. So pretty much where we left it, there was a couple items that we said, you know, I had worked with the ad hoc committee from CLAC, which is Coloma Lotus Advisory Committee, and, you know, we boiled it down to a couple items, and I think what the agreement was was that Donna and Torin would meet with that ad hoc, and I ended up tagging along just so I could take notes and make sure I was hearing things correctly to make sure the edits carried through. And ultimately, I think they were satisfied. A lot of the items were around private property trespass and how exactly they wanted that articulated in the plan and sort of the level of violation that that would fall into. And it seemed like they were satisfied with the outcome of that. And then there was a little bit more of just shuffling around items that would be a class one or class two violation. And it seemed like we were able to get consensus with the ad hoc in that regard as well. So I think it went better than I expected. Not that I expected it to go poorly, but I think everyone ended that meeting, like, satisfied with the arrest. Yeah, yeah. And so really, I think it went well. And where we're at now is really just kind of getting the fine-tooth comb back out, going through legal review, and just making sure, you know, I guess my approach to that sort of thing, as we go through each step and each iteration of this, like, I like it to get smoother and smoother, right? And so We have, you know, a handful of conversations at Park Commission. You know, in a perfect world, we would have slightly less conversations at Planning Commission. By the time it gets to the Board of Supervisors, we will really ground that lens pretty clear. And maybe you get a few questions that come up, but everybody that's been involved is pretty well aware of what they should expect to see there. And so I think we're still on that trajectory.

But having done Planning Commission, I'm sure there'll be some questions we'll address when they come up. Well, I'm glad to hear it went well and there We had a whole bunch of extra work for you guys. That's good. It was good to hear.

Danny, did you have anything you wanted to add to item three?

The only thing I was, a couple of things. I heard Zach mention something about a local district to try to raise some money for recreation in order to improve some parks. coming from a town that takes recreation seriously. I'd like you guys to come see what can be done by looking at the facilities we have up here, including a brand new state-of-the-art rec center that we just put in that is really something to behold. The other thought is we're not talking about necessarily new parks. We're talking about trying to improve existing parks. Is that correct?

No, it would be development of a new park in the community of Grizzly Flat.

Grizzly Flat, okay. My only concern there is that I'm all for parking grizzly flat. But I'd like to see us get a park here in South Lake Tahoe as well. Since there's no county park whatsoever up here in the base. So I just want to throw that out. That should be highly on the agenda somewhere.

Thank you again. Appreciate that. Any other comments on it?

I just would like to add a comment related to the efforts to develop a park in Grizzly Flats. Based on my contacts with folks down there, they are a very underrepresented community. And of course, as we all know, after the fire, they really felt unrepresented. I really think that this should be more than something to make this a priority. And, you know, the idea of a special district, hate to use the word tax, but it's probably the only way that we're going to get it done in this financial environment that we're in right now in this county. So I just want to put that out there. And I'll be staying in touch with some of the folks that I know. I actually have some folks from my old job that lived out there.

I think they have like a community association.

They do.

So it might be helpful to attend one of those meetings.

Or we could have, I have a fairly high-ranking member in that community group. Come and speak to us. Have him come to one of our meetings and share with us.

Yep. At least we'll have a little more background, if we will. And if they've done any type of funding, reach out to try and do anything with it.

I can't speak for that, but I have a feeling most of their efforts are just trying to get roofs over people's heads.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and that's very true.

Okay, that's good. We can do that.

Special comment. All right, if there are no other comments on this, Jessica, would you open it up for public comment, please?

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And I'm pretty certain that the El Dorado Community Foundation has a very big interest in the grizzly fire car. Yes, they do.

You're correct about that, I think. You're correct. They do. They actually, I believe they actually got a, some kind of foundation grant there. But what that entails, I'm not totally sure of all the details. But I could certainly reach out to InSchool and get some more details. Thank you.

Comments by them no comments by them Danny any comments.

No, none. Thank you. Okay. No comments. Okay. You know, since I talked to him. I don't or. The division of the chief administrative office recommends the Commission want to prove the volunteer recognition plan and timeline. And number two, discuss volunteer activities and achievements to begin preparing a list of volunteers for an organization by district to recognize in 2026.

So this one's a little bit of a two-parter. The first one's kind of laying out what our workflow will be for future years. So this is kind of the attachment there is really what we're looking to do starting in 2027. um and so if you kind of look at the proposed recognition recognition plan and then the calendar there um kind of starts there beginning of the calendar year in january staff repair a list of the prior standout volunteers and then the parks and rec commission reviews prior years volunteers achievements and discussion nomination and then it kind of carries through there so february you finalize your volunteer nominations by district uh in april with volunteer month so it can be a dedicated announcement on our parks website we have social media spotlight posts an article in the Mountain Democrat, those sort of things. And then also it'd be incorporated into your annual report in September. So we'd be looking for your approval on this sort of approach in cadence to how we wanna go about recognizing volunteers starting in 2020. So that's the first piece. And maybe we break it up a little bit. So pretty much we'll kind of get your guys' opinion on that, ideally approval. And then the second piece would be discussion of volunteers that we've had so far this year, which has been awesome. Like we've had a lot of volunteer involvement. And then kind of the outcome of that is ideally getting that incorporated into the annual report to the board of supervisors for this. So kind of approval on, you know, going forward, 2027, how we go about addressing this. And then I have some information here to discuss with you all about potential nominations for 2026.

OK, so let's see. Let's break this up. Let's do a motion for one, the approval of the volunteer recognition plan and a timeline. And then we'll go into the discussion at number two. So before we make a motion, In regards to number one, let's do public comment.

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I think it's a good idea.

Okay. And I have a motion to approve number one of item four, which is the volunteer recognition plan and timeline set for quite correct. Second. Okay, so roll call.

Commissioner Hospitalli, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Donovan, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Mullins-Becker, how do you vote? Yes. And then Commissioner McLaughlin, how do you vote?

First, I'd like to know what is the timeline? Is it documented anywhere?

uh yeah so danny there should be an attachment to the agenda um if you don't have it in front of you i could just kind of quickly script it out to you so uh starting in the calendar year of 2027 we would start in january and staff would prepare a list of prior years standout volunteers The Parks and Rec Commission would review the prior year's volunteers' achievements and discuss nominations. At the February meeting, the commission would finalize volunteer nominations by district. In April, it's volunteer month, so we would be highlighting volunteers with dedicated announcements on the park's website, social media spotlight posts, and an article in Mountain Democrat. And then the final item would be in September when the Parks and Rec Commission does their annual report to the Board of Supervisors. It would include recognition

those volunteers great i would appreciate in the future can we make sure that i get that attachment sent to me so i don't have to ask in the meeting uh what it is i'd like to be able to read it next time i can help you out with that thank you um yes by the way well done okay okay so let's um discuss um part two of item

which is to discuss the volunteer activities and achievements to begin preparing a list of volunteers for nomination by district. I'm going to turn this over to staff because we kind of want to have some guidelines here of what you think this should look like.

So Shannon spent some time compiling a list and pretty much what we were thinking was we would kind of go through this and kind of give you a description of the volunteer activities that have been completed by some of the volunteers that we've had participate that are, you know, repeat volunteers or shining stars, that sort of thing. Without providing you all names, we just kind of give you a general description of the activities that were completed. And then based on that, you can provide feedback. So I'll kind of start at the top. I will say we did not have any volunteer activities take place in district one obviously district one is predominantly Eldorado hills CSP so we do not have any park amenities and district one. outside of that we're able to get volunteer events and activities happening every one of our other supermissorial district, so that was pretty cool. So the first one we have here was in district two at pioneer park. We had a couple of our residents out there construct and install or help with installation in conjunction with our grounds maintenance staff at Little Free Library at Pioneer Park. So that was pretty cool. They approached the county with the idea of installing Little Free Library. We supported the idea. They painted it, handmade it. They did their own design. And they coordinated with staff to get it installed in an ADA accessible location. So pretty cool project there. We've had a couple people very involved with efforts on El Dorado Trail, from coordinating events to being there day of, both helping with assisting in work and doing work itself, and then also just advocacy for the trail. So we've had a couple of people in that category. And really, this kind of goes across several districts, so it's not really tied to one specific, just because the trail kind of traverses multiple districts. But really highlighting those people that are very consistent and show up day in and day out advocating for the trail. So there's some in that category. We have several in D4, and a lot of these are attributed to the Rubicon Trail Adopt-A-Trail program. Some of these are groups that have had really tough sections and showed up in masses with their Jeep club or off-road club to really show out, for lack of a better term, and, you know, try to do their best to be a good steward of the trail. So the Adopt-A-Trail program is something that's kind of ebbed and flowed. And so one thing that I've noticed is these adoptees, they really value the program and they reflect that with their volunteer efforts. So we have a handful in that category. Some are more coordinators and really drumming up additional volunteer support. Some are more boots on the ground, you know, going above and beyond, for example, taking a two-day chainsaw certification class so that they have U.S. Forest Service chainsaw certification so that they could kind of do those extra sort of volunteer efforts that typically we would not allow without the proper certification. And so This year, we were able to partner with our friends over at El Dorado National Forest. They were hosting a chainsaw certification class, and they gave us a couple spots in that class for our adopted trail group. And so we kind of put the bat signal out and had a handful of people step forward interested to dedicate some additional time to get those certifications. So we want to make sure we include this every time. We have someone here that has been very involved with cleanups at Henningsen Lotus Park. So it's not just necessarily picking up garbage and detail work. We've had people that have helped coordinate and recruit volunteers for a few different scotch brim removal projects. And so we're very appreciative of that. And so we wanted to make sure we kind of gave them that opportunity. We have also some new volunteers that we want to make sure that we kind of highlight. So we've had some, you know, a handful of people actually respond to some of our outreach and probably some of the interactions that they've had with our commissioners, but showing up to multiple events. So that could be, you know, a trail building event on the El Dorado Trail. It could be our bike park cleanup event, but consistent advocacy for our facilities in that regard. And then lastly, we did have a single volunteer event in District 5. So earlier in the year, myself, actually my dad, who is not one of these volunteers being recognized, and our grounds maintenance supervisor, Eric Sunderland, were able to partner with some of the residents up in Pollock Pines and do a turf renovation project with Four Bay Field. So that included spreading 250 pounds of grass seed and 30 cubic yards of mulch And I just kind of wanted to call attention to these because it wasn't an individual volunteer. These were like entire families coming out to dedicate time on their Saturday to come and put time into the betterment of four big people. So those were kind of the overall spread of the types of volunteer activities that have been completed and put it out there to you all to kind of pick through. If you have extra questions or anything like that, I can do my best to fill in the gaps without kind of revealing too much of it. Wow. There be anything else I should add to that, Shannon? Did I miss anything?

I think so. Yeah, I think you covered that. Yeah, if there's any more information we could provide or something, I hope you kind of parse out the different folks from the different districts or we can come back next time, maybe another item to provide more information, whatever you

I mean, just in turn, I mean, it sounds like there's a lot of awesome work going on, and it'd be great to recognize, you know, through all the districts. So I guess I just have one technical question. Could we, is there a portion of the El Dorado Trail that runs through District 1? So could we say that sort of catch-all work that you were talking about, we could assign instead of District 1 recognition? I don't believe that it's District 1.

I would have to look at a district map. You might touch it a very small amount, but I believe pretty much the entirety of it. At least on that section in District 2, in that lower section ladder.

But yeah. I think it's amazing that you've had that much volunteer support. Amazing. We've always had the El Dorado Trail support. We've always had them supporting us in the past, and Rubicon Trail as well. But I'd love to hear about HLP. You've got a group of people just do some vegetation cleanup. And then what you guys did up at Fort Wayne Park when you did the turf renovation, that was with Snow Lion Little League, right? Yeah. So that's great. Yeah, I think it's amazing. Truly amazing. So you have just put your feelers out through the website and everything. Learned about, hey, we need some help on this project you've got going. And that's how you kind of generated it, and then who worked for them out.

Yeah, so a lot of it was kind of efforts from Shannon, also our program coordinator, Tim Cannavaro, and kind of creating a forum on our website where people can kind of get interest tickets. um and that was kind of shannon fee she did a great job setting all that up and making sure people knew that volunteer opportunities were available props to jessica for making sure we're getting it out on our social media posts so she kind of did her part there as well making sure like as we're coming up to events we're kind of consistently getting that message out to people like yeah i don't have anything going on this saturday yeah you've got something going on and then um tim conovaro for um kind of field fielding or um you know, manning that list for lack of a better term. So as people are registering on the website, it gets exported into an Excel table. And so as we're putting projects together, Tim's really trying to use that as a pick list to see, you know, people have an opportunity to say what kind of projects they're interested in. And so based on that, he can kind of reach out to people and say, Hey, you know, we have this sort of project going on and we're going to clean up at HLP and that sort of thing. So that was kind of the division of how we were able to get that sort of success. And I don't know, I mean, I guess to me it was interesting because sometimes I struggle seeing like the magnitude of stuff like that, right? It's like, Oh, look at the volunteer event here and one there. But as Shannon was compiling this list, it really kind of hit me like, wow, look at all of the names on this list, you know? And it, um, it was kind of humbling and made me feel really good. So, um, I don't know, every once in a while it is good to kind of take back and look at the magnitude of what you know, even in just one year. So the,

the list that you have, that you've provided, which is kind of presented us now, is this something, since we're well into our timeline, would this be something that we would make that dedication during our annual report?

Yeah.

For this year anyway. Exactly. And then next year we would follow the timeline. So, okay, that's great to know. So what are you thinking, like, we're going to get a little What do you think?

My question is, we're talking about 2025 activities, right? It's a combination of 2025 and then up until June of 2026.

Going forward, starting in January of next year, it'll be kind of truncated, so you'll look at the rest of 2026. And so then we'll kind of fall into a

but it's like a process of like trying to whittle this down in a way that we get the most like goodness out of it um is there a way of saying hey these were 2025 activities cool that gets us to a good list and then we can keep these other ones for the 2026 list when we get into january either that or you could go to it and just identify it as the volunteer um

of 25-26, for a fiscal year of 25-26. And that kind of takes us to that point.

Like great activities that we could recognize later, right?

We would, and we would pick up in July, we would pick up for 26-27, and we could extend it, you know, that would bring us back to the timeline that we're talking about from January to December.

Yeah, and it could be after this initial time we do it once we go through it and then we can always adjust it from there. Maybe we decide actually the timeline is not quite right. You want it to be different than that.

Yeah. But I like the idea of recognizing them during volunteer month.

Yeah, that is the ideal goal to have it recognized during that month and then follow up in September with your all's report to the board just to kind of get that one little last piece in there. And that would just be within your slide presentation that you do. There will be an extra slide in there saying that kind of thank you recognition to that folks and also so the board then is able to see it.

So what we're saying basically we want to recognize everybody that was involved, but we want to create a criteria to or a threshold that it deserves, right?

Well, that's a good question. I don't, you just compiled a list of all the volunteers, right? Or have you actually pulled out those that were star volunteers, if you will?

Everyone that has kind of made this list are people that are already kind of that above and beyond. Every one of these people is commensurate of getting this award, right? Or this recognition for life. Um, one thing that maybe we could do to kind of help out a little bit more, and I apologize, I didn't do this in advance. I was taking vacations and not doing a fully vague to board items, uh, potentially, but I guess one thing that would maybe help me if I was in your position, we could maybe just create a small description of each one of these and then break it out by district. Because as I'm looking at this list, Really, you have two in District 5. You have two choices in District 3. You have a lot in District 4. It includes Eldorado Trail, Henningsen Lotus Park, Rubicon Trail. So you have District 4 is competitive. District 2, you really only have Pioneer Park and the Little Free Library. And then obviously, like you said, District 1, we don't have any. So to me, I mean, like I said, if I was in your position and we're trying to try to highlight at least somewhat one person or one group in each one of these districts that could be of utility to you all, just like a quick two-sentence blurb on summary of what those activities were, and then do that by district so you could say, hey, you know, and then from there you guys do it however you want. You can vote or that's your choice.

Compiling something we could have to look at would be a good idea, but I struggle with the idea of coming up with a criteria because we're not going to have any time clock. know exactly how much time is put in. So a lot of it's just going to have to be done on impressions or people that are involved with those parks that letting us know who is actually doing some extra work and kind of use that as a base to make a decision because it's really going to be really hard. Everything else is going to be kind of subjective. I agree.

With the criteria, it's kind of hard to kind of point that down.

What we may think would be criteria for acknowledgement someone else finds, but I worked really hard, but it just doesn't fall under that criteria.

Yeah. Um, or you're in district four. Yeah. Um, I mean, just as a thought experiment, what jumped into my head was that it's each one of us are the ones that like for John chooses for district three, Donna chooses for district two, et cetera. That's kind of what I was thinking.

So in other words, you give us a list and then we look at what, what you were, um, summarizing their response, their contribution was, and then we decide, are we picking one, we're picking two, just one. One for each district. Okay. I bet you didn't give them a paper for everyone. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, any quantification you can do, like guest hours or whatever.

Oh, well, I would add to that, to your spreadsheet, What was the impact to your operation as the parts manager? That's going to help us quite a bit in for District 4. What was the impact? What was the huge takeaway that sets this person aside from somebody? And that would be valuable. Yeah. Very valuable. What creates the value?

Yeah, exactly. It would be very valuable.

Because I can look at, you know, you take a, you know, you select and cut and paste something to an email to me, Zach, about the two people in District 3. But I really don't know how that, I can guess how that helped you. Yeah. You know, but there's more to the picture, I'm sure, that words on paper can't put together. Yeah.

You know. So do you think if we were to bring something back next month, kind of incorporating that, that would give you the information you guys need to make a decision? Yes.

Could you give it to us ahead of the meeting and we just like codify it at the next meeting?

It would just be posted with the agenda. Yeah. So you'd have whatever.

So keep in mind, this is our first time in ever doing this. So we're going to be able to fine tune it and critique it a little bit more as we go along and, you know, have more input for it. But yes, that'd be great if you could bring it forward in July.

yeah do you have anything to add to this yeah again i have an issue trying to come up with a quantitative way to do it because you just don't know i mean somebody could have a major impact and not really be there but are encouraging everybody in the neighborhood to show up so it's really difficult to find a criteria outside of our own hunches when we talk to people. And I think we've got to keep ourselves open to that kind of a suggestion that we need to have an open-ended that eventually it has to be something we can do to do it. Sorry about that. Some way we have to maybe just come up with the way we have to, I feel, from time to time. But if we could have a quantitative evaluation, it would be terrific, but I'm not sure that is strictly what we need to go off of.

I think we're kind of talking about the same thing when we're asking Zach to provide us with more insight in terms of what was the impact that they brought. The impact could be, well, they volunteered 15 times this year. Or the impact could be they brought 15 people with them every single time they volunteered. That's up to Zach. and then we'll make the decision as you said.

And it doesn't necessarily have to be maybe a person, but it could be a group. Like on the Rubicon Trail, that's going to be, they have their groups. Yeah, they do. So yeah, I think that that's a good approach. So since this is not necessarily an action item, I'm just going to, we've discussed it. We've taken into consideration that and giving you our, so we bring it back in July.

One idea with the groups might be that, because like in District 4, so many great groups are doing something and it sort of gets them acknowledged. Maybe have somebody from one group be nominated one month, somebody from another group another month, and have them do a nomination because they would have a better understanding who's actually doing the work.

That's a good thought to Danny. So something to your point. Yes, you're right. We should have an action item to bring this forward to the time. Yeah. Could we have are we done with our discussion? Does anybody have anything commissioners, anything more to add to it? Could we open for public comment on number two of the general buyer for nothing?

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I know they're not coloring within the lines. And I want to thank that and Shannon, is that right? Shannon. Shannon. Shannon. For their work on this trail day at the bike park. And there was some good scrounging done. But there's also... Some work needs to be done on one of the ramps for weather. And so put that on your schedule.

All right. No comments by Zoom. Danny, there's no one in the room with you.

I just want to say I'm not surprised we ended up with the kind of numbers that you had, Zach, for the volunteers. Again, it's been my experience that there's more going on than we really realize. And I think you've got a great place to start right there. But as we start diving into it, we have to be prepared that this could be a rabbit hole we're going to go down because there are more people going to be involved, particularly with the attention we're going to bring because of what we're trying to do here, which I think is going to be nothing but positive.

I'll second that.

No other comments. Okay. So can I have a motion to bring this item back in July to further discuss by districts the activities and achievements of our volunteers in regards to nominations?

So moved.

Second. Can I have a roll call vote, please?

I'm sorry. Sure. Commissioner Hospitality, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Donovan, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Rollins-Becker, how do you vote? Yes. And then Commissioner McLaughlin, how do you vote?

Yes.

Passes.

Okay. So now I'm trying to get to talk. Never mind. Okay. Agenda item five, which is part of the Division of the Chief Administrative Officer Recommendation Commission number one, discuss preparation for of the 2026 annual report to the board on September 15th, 2026, and assign the chair or another commissioner to prepare the report and point an ad hoc committee. I pulled up what we did last year, and I think this year we'll have a better opportunity to expand it a little bit more, because we've done a lot more this year. And I'm hoping that we'll have more pictures to update some of this. But I want to hear from the other commissioners about ideas for this and how you want to go forward with this. I'm happy to make the presentation, but I don't necessarily have to. And if we want to do an ad hoc committee, keep in mind that there can only be two of us that participate because we don't want a quorum, obviously. But that would be a good way of doing that. And then we can always bring that back to the commission. I would like to see the staff's input on this. And I'm assuming we are following the same format as what was brought forward last year.

Yeah. Um, so the draft slide deck is attached and it's pretty much the same slide. I mean, they changed the colors a little bit, but each slide is kind of, you know, same as what they've done in past years. Um, so yeah, I mean, really it's for you guys to decide who wants to team up and kind of do the presentation in the past. It's usually been chair and vice chair, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to do that. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's really up to you all how you guys want to do it. Obviously we'll help with the, you know, assembly of the presentation, typically how that goes is the commissioners that decided to take that on, kind of take that first cut at it. Obviously, there's like a staff recommendation slide at the end. We'll take care of that. But then any info information, you can help out with that picture or so.

All right. Thoughts from the commissioners?

I think the way we've been doing it has been working. I know that's probably not with YouTube people necessarily on here, but...

I've done it before, so... And I'm sure you have in other positions.

It doesn't seem like a great deal of work.

It really... It isn't it just takes the time to put it all together and to make sure that we're covering all the aspects that we want to present to the board. It's really it's about us justifying our commission and what we do to help support back and staff. And you know the community.

I would say one thing. We should I like what's different.

Much more than what's the key things are all sort of what we've accomplished. We've focused on our goals and what we brought forward. Yes, I agree with that.

Stay in the August.

Any comments on it, Danny?

I don't know what you did last year because I wasn't around, but I know that this is very important because it's important that people realize how much Parks and Rec means to a county like El Dorado County. So I agree totally. Bring up the new and the directions we're going and all those kind of things and emphasize that as a priorities. And if there's anything else about some of the things that have done in the past and the success that has been, then that should also be brought up on a regular basis to remind people of what we have been able to accomplish in past. Well said.

Yes.

We do have last year's presentation included in the item if you would like us at all in today's meeting to bring up on the screen if you want to look at anything. Yeah, I pulled it up here. Because there's really three, the three main slides for you all, the what we do, your goals, and then challenges. Right. And we also have for your consideration potential goals that included in the item that you can review through. And then, of course, if there's anything else that's not already included that you'd like. And then there's also this year's goals and the prior goals just to kind of give you what's been happening in the past.

And I also liked the way we did it last year in so much that we took each district and we supplied them with pictures. Because there's nothing worse than going and watching a presentation and all you see is words up there. There's nothing worse. So it's helpful to have pictures that draws people and they can ask questions about those pictures as well. So I think that was really good, a good thing to do. I agree. Okay. Well, if it pleases the commission, then I guess Tom and I will work on this with SCAC, obviously, because we want this to be our best representation of what we've done and how we're moving forward. and to protect the resources that we have here in our county. Okay. Do we need to make a motion to sign? Or is that just a given that we've always done it that way?

Number two says it's funny, the chair or another commission report. You guys can make a motion just to cover fire.

Yeah, I guess that's probably the best way to do it. Okay.

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Okay, can I have a motion then to sign the responsibility to myself and Torrin to prepare the report with the help of staff the presentation of the 2026 annual report. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Thank you, Danny.

Call, please. Commissioner Hospitalier, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Donovan, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Mullins-Becker, how do you vote? Yes. And then Commissioner McLaughlin, how do you vote?

Yes.

Okay. So, number six.

Um... Parks, a division of the Chief Administrative Office recommends the commission to view and approve one of the two draft parks and trails division mission statements. So we have then two that were given to us along with the summary was number one, we support the Toronto County's world-class outdoor recreational and cultural resources for the public's enjoyment and teach responsible and safe use to protect the resources for current and future generations. Number two is our mission is to, oh, I'm sorry, we support El Dorado County world-class outdoor recreational and cultural resources for the public's enjoyment through community partnerships, stewardship, and education to protect the resources for current and future generations. Now, in this summary, you indicated that actually participating in some workshops.

Internal self-held workshops. That brings vivid pictures. I know. It was for lunch when you talked about it. Those were like pieces of paper up on a dark floor.

Yeah, yeah.

We had little note cards and papers and stuff like that. We did not have an outside group come in and help us.

I thought maybe you went to one of the grant things and it was on the site thing about writing missions.

We have some documents that help us that have how to prepare it. So we do have that kind of guide.

I just had a couple of suggestions. I'm going to turn it over to Leslie to see if you have anything. I particularly like number two the best, really. I think instead of saying we support, I would say our mission is to promote and protect El Dorado County's world-class tenure line. And then at the end, instead of to protect the resources, I would take that out, because you've already stated it up at the back, at the front, for present and future generations. Does that make sense?

Do you have any thoughts on it?

No, I think that works really well. I mean, I liked two to begin with, and I like your changes. A lot more with that.

How about you, Danny? Any thoughts on this?

Just listening to them, I wish I had them in front of me to be able to do it, but without being able to read them. And I've written so many over the course of years, you know, public comment things with positions I've held. I would like to see it, but I think they both work, to be honest with you. Maybe some changes of the words like you proposed would be a good idea. But again, without seeing it, I wouldn't know.

Danny, do you have a, like, how are you looking at the agenda? Is it on a computer, an iPad, or something like that in front of you?

I printed it out, and it's one page. Okay.

All right. I'll reach out to you probably tomorrow and I'll set up some time because I just want to make sure that you're able to get all of the attachments to the agenda. And if we need to have someone in time to print them out for you, that's fine. A lot of them are linked if you have a digital agenda. But I'll set up some time and I'll show you kind of run through Legistar, show you how you can pull that up and then make sure you can get access to all these attachments. I agree. It's going to be tough for you to give constructive feedback unless you can kind of see all the parts and pieces to the puzzle here.

Particularly on something like this, because I know full well that sometimes one word can change the entire meaning of a sentence. And I'd like to see the whole meaning of the sentence in order to make a judgment.

Thank you. Okay. Before you call for a motion, let's have some public comment in regards to this.

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So I mean, and of life support. Thank you.

Okay. No comment by zoom. She's a great sport. I mean, I haven't used for years.

She's always the police.

And then there's no other comment.

All right. Um, I'd like a motion that we approve item number two with the stated changes that we brought forward to our mission statement.

So moved. Second.

Shall we roll call on that? Sorry, who's second? John, sorry. Okay. Commissioner Hospitalier, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Donovan, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Mullins-Becker, how do you vote? Yes. And then commissioner McLaughlin, how do you vote?

I'm afraid I have to abstain because I can't see it.

Okay. Okay. Going on to, um, permission to remember comments and future agenda items. I think we did. Um, we're going to have a future. We are, we talked about having that in the consent calendar and updating our goals. If there's nothing to report, then it just falls through with the content calendar. If we need to bring it out, then we do so. And then we are also going to talk about a volunteer program over the next month. Is there anything else you'd like to see come forward?

I was, I mean, just to start the conversation about El Dorado Trail, I mean, this concept of you know, and I've kind of discuss this with Donna and Zach a little bit. So for John and Damon's benefit, after the presentation that John Rose and Jenny McCormick gave us at our last meeting, you know, basically what I took away from that conversation was there's a lot of thoughts about what should happen with the future of the undeveloped portions of the El Dorado Trail. And I know it's a hot button issue, but there are different opinions about what we should do. And I've heard different viewpoints on the logic of why one thing should be another or another. And I kind of just want to see if there's a place for us to dive in a little bit and see if there's room to advance the conversation. If ultimately we find that we can't, that it's not, you know, it's not our place or it's too incendiary, then we can back that off. But I'd rather not continue to have the same conversation that we always have, which is some enthusiasts want to see, you know, certain areas paved and that affects what other enthusiasts care about. But those, whatever, you know, just like there's a lot of opinions and valid and a lot of like loves people have for the trail, but just, if there's any way to push the ball forward, I'd love to see if we can play a role in that.

I think maybe what we could do is have Zach give us some history. We'll start from the very, very beginning. I mean, it goes way back many years ago.

Right.

And then, what maybe a timeline what has taken place as we move forward which would include uh as you reported in your um your report exactly that regards to fema the big the great floods that we've had and water i mean all of that sort of thing so i think it would be helpful because we are a pretty new commission we were not part of i mean i was part of part director at the time but not part of the commission so i think it would be helpful for us all to have this history And it would be great if Don and Jenny were here, and even Eileen, to help us during that conversation.

So I would add to that what, Zach, you're hearing as far as what the leadership in the county, what their vision is. And in addition to that, you know, realistically, what are the, what's the data? What are the, what are the data points show, you know, down, down in Folsom, the numbers down in Folsom, I'm sure, uh, or, you know, in that El Dorado Hills area, which are going to be a lot different than, you know, up by Placidville or beyond. And, um, Just trying to think forward as far as what the supervisors, what's going to, what buttons are going to get, need to get touched as the discussion advances. Sure. Because the way I view this body is we'll kind of be, in addition to the many other things, having to deal with all of these great things that we have in this county, but we're kind of the testing ground for these groups. Yeah. And I think part of it is also as a service to these groups, let them cut their teeth with us so that when they get to the supervisor level, they have these ducks in a row.

Very true.

I view that as part of our team.

Oh, I believe so too. Yes, we are the testing grounds, if you will. We might be the turds. piece of the paper on the dark part but you know it has quite a history and as Torrin mentioned there's been so many different thoughts about how to move forward on the trail we've made some amazing advances on creating the trail but there's obviously a lot more to go to do and Sometimes we might go for a walk on some portions of it. It might help you understand, especially when the, like when Don talks about pinch spots and things like that, you'd have an understanding of what that meant and things like that.

I definitely need to go out there and see where all this is going.

Right.

The furthest I've gone is just a little bit past Missouri. Right.

And, um, But there's been some great strides made over the years to get it paved. And the overcrossing was one right there in 39. And I do know that, you know, the history is that they want to take it all the way to Tahoe.

Yeah.

It's part of the Pony Express Trail. You know, that sort of thing. So anyway, it would be great if we would have that conversation. And it would be just an information item. It wouldn't be that we would take any action or anything like that. It would just be for our education. Does that sound good, Zach, or are we asking for way too much?

I mean, there's a lot. I started writing things down. I would just say, yes, it is doable. And I think, you know, you guys have the right approach. We can kind of dip our toe in and kind of see where it goes from there. I would just put out there, I mean, there's a lot of vested interests, right? I mean, even just the way we talk about in saying the trail, you can go to other commission and committee meetings and they call it the corridor, right? And so I mean, there are tons of vested interests and it's very multifaceted and it's intended to be that way. But, yeah, I mean, I can see us kind of tiptoeing through it and kind of hearing it from all sides. I mean, just kind of creating a short list of some of the folks that are involved in the quarter. We have the El Dorado Western Railway Foundation. We have PSVRR. We have, obviously, our friends of groups, friends of the El Dorado Trail, you know, Bryce Lavelle, our library director, he oversees all of the living history aspect over the trail and the corridor. Gary Barton and the Transportation Commission for Active Transportation has a vested interest. The SBTC-JPA, obviously, is the landowner, and we have arguments over that. It's an alliance, too.

It's a new alliance that came up. Potentially.

Potentially. I'll have to look into that a little bit. And that was just kind of me just writing it down as we're talking through it. But I think your guys' approach is probably the right way to do it. And it'd probably be good for me to go through the exercise of getting all the history together. And maybe we can call on some of these folks, and maybe they can kind of fill in some of the gaps as well. That would be awesome. So you can kind of see all the different facets of what the corridor has to offer. But it's a big one. But yeah, I mean, I think it'd be cool to put in your emails and Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

If I can just add, we have one wonderful resource that will help us on this. Some person started this. Donna, for all I know, it was you. There is this document tracking board item that have taken place on the SPTC since the very beginning of time. It's quite fabulous. So we have a great starting point. It would be awesome.

Yeah. there's a commissioner, well, he's no longer a commissioner, but Jack knows all about the corridor and how the county fought for it. Trust me, when the SBT, or the joint, the JPA was formed and that sort of thing.

Now, is this the trail we're trying to hook up to Sacramento area?

Yes.

Now we're talking about maybe coming up to Tahoe?

Well, yes. At one time, there was the plan that from Camino to Tahoe, was going to follow the old Pony Express trail. I mean, the old original Pony Express, but not Highway 50. That talk is way out there, but it was there. Most of what we're discussing now is from Camino to Folsom, which is part of the rail corridor that ran from Camino, Michigan, Cal, all the way down to Folsom.

Okay. I think that's a perfect place to put the, I think coming to Tahoe would be a bit prohibitive. It's a narrow canyon, the American River Canyon. Coming up, it's barely wide enough for the road we build. It would be great to do that, but then it would be a terrific asset to this county to be able to hook up Camino down into the Folsom area on a bike path of some kind. Yes, there is that economic side of it as well.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Okay. Anything else? Sure. Okay. Let's well, let me ask, is there anybody in the commission, any other members that has my comments or future agenda items?

Yeah, we just got a couple real quick. So just, I mean, just another kudos to the staff. I mean, it's the grants being one is awesome after all that effort. And then just all the community engagement that's going on. It's amazing to see some things to do for that intent. And I'll just got to say, since I am the District 4 rep, there's a lot of great assets that we have in District 4 that you all should enjoy. Get out on the river, go out on the Rubicon Trail, go for a hike. I mean, it's summertime. Now it's time to enjoy it.

The only other comment I have is next week is the El Dorado County Fair. Right. Parks and Rec will have a share of food with Rukon, right, and OHE, that sort of thing. If you can come by and see us, that'd be great. I'll be there for a couple hours on Thursday and Friday. Come on by. You've got to come by the fair. Anyway, any other items or any other comments?

I also will be out there on Friday and Sunday. And looking forward to meeting a lot of nice folks and sharing our message. I want to congratulate Donna and Torin on their positions on the commission. I'm sorry I missed the meeting, but you couldn't vote against it.

I don't think I would have. Just on the record. Well, at least we didn't volunteer. Paul had told you, you know, and said, oh, John will do it.

Well, in Sal Wayne's email, when I contacted him to let him know that, hey, I'm not going to make it, he'd probably get a chuckle. So, but yeah, that's all I have. Thank you.

Danny, do you have any comments?

I'd like to try to make the fairgrounds. I have to clear with my wife first. I never know what she's got planned, but it does sound like a, Something that I would like to do and see, being as I grew up with the California State Fair, and I'm a big go-to-the-fair kind of a guy over the years, I think I would like to see what a county fair is like. One other thought, I just want to throw it out, spitballing with the idea of what can we do up here at the lake, maybe on a county basis. Seems to me that bike paths and things like that's becoming a hot topic everywhere. A couple of things about up here, we are now a headquarters for mountain biking. And maybe something in that kind of vein that the county could help us with. Because there's always needs to maintain trails and this and that for it. And then another thought, I just want to bring it up. We used, there was a, Caltrans used to have a right-of-way right through South Lake Tahoe. They were going to build a freeway. And they were going to build a bridge over Emerald Bay. Thank heavens it failed. But that right-of-way is still there. And there's once upon a time a proposal to put a bike path from the college where we have out to Myers through the county grounds. That might be something maybe to look as something that the county could have an interest in because that would be a terrific asset to our community to be able to ride out to Myers without having to cross Highway 50 or any kind of traffic.

Would that be on Pioneer Trail?

It would be between Pioneer Trail and Highway 50. Okay. It kind of goes behind the airport and it It's kind of parallel to the river to a certain extent, but then it goes behind the housing track that comes out of Pioneer Trail. And you can actually see it from a map. You can kind of see where it goes to. We have a portion of it built. It's called the Dennis Machida Trail. Again, to see how bike paths can help a community. Taking a ride on that thing is beautiful because that's also a part of the old Caltrans Rider way. We decided to build a bike path hooking up the Sierra track. And it kind of skirts all of Highway 50 all the way over into the Bijou area. And now we're taking that same bike path and connecting it to the Y. So you're going to be able to go almost from the Y on a bike path over to the Bijou area, which is close to state line, without having to be worried about crossing Highway 50 or any of the major roads. And that's all on Caltrans easement? That was on the Caltrans. The second part here is not, but the part that the Dennis Machida is and the Caltrans easement is behind the college.

Okay, so the part on Bijou is not Caltrans?

Yeah, actually it is. You can actually, when you write the path, you kind of go, oh, there's houses over here, over here. There's nothing really here because that was part of the original easement. Now there have been some of it sold off over the years, but it's still a lot of it's in place still to be used for things. And they, Caltrans is very clear about it because we, when we, the measure S fields is on the Caltrans interchange. That's the fields at the college. And that's how we got it from Caltrans because they would allow us to build recreation facilities on that old easement. And that was a big area because that's where the interchange was going to be for the freeway. And that's how those fields got to be at the college.

Interesting. Yeah. That's something to think about and consider. Can we capture that? I wrote it down. Yeah, it'd be great to spend some time on that.

And I want to thank you guys. I'm starting to feel like I'm part of this thing now and I'm enjoying listening to all the different comments and ideas because it's a lot of good diversity here and we, as we go further on, I'm looking forward to hearing the kind of things we can talk about and accomplish.

Looking forward to spending that time with you, Danny, and we'll go forward on our agenda.

Okay, I'm We do public health. No, that's fine.

Okay, are there any staff comments that I know?

Jess, you have any comments?

No. I have one. I wanted to share an invitation from Arts and Culture El Dorado. As you know, they partnered with us to do the 2020 Thick Rubicon Bandana. We will have that unveiled for you. Well, you'll see it at the fair next week. But actually on the 18th, they're having an opening reception for their newest exhibition, which will be the Rubicon Rising. So I'll send you the invite. They have an open reception, and then the exhibit will be going through, I think, the end of August. Oh, nice. So they're highlighting all things Rubicon, and they've gotten tons of neat stuff from all the trail enthusiasts and user groups and all those folks. So it should be really cool.

Yeah, please do. That sounds fascinating.

Love to see it.

Great. public comment um i don't think we take public comment on commissioner comment staff comment well i was going to volunteer uh because i have a pretty good history of the overall trail come by and talk to me i'll make sure i get all of your by the office or send me an email go bye We're doing it in the next couple weeks because we're going to be moving. But after the 23rd, the Parks Office is going to be moving now. Where are you guys moving? One of my staff comments. We're moving down by Building C. So if you're familiar with where facilities or the cemeteries division is, grounds maintenance, they have a few small buildings directly adjacent to Building C. And we'll be moving the Parks Office from down by the skate park down here more centralized at the government center. So our last day Down at the skate park is the 22nd of June, and starting the 23rd, it's going to be probably the 24th or the 25th, we'll be up here by Building C at the Government Center. So I just wanted to put that out there to everyone. Also, if you like, you can come patronize the Parks Office. There's not going to be anyone home down there by the skate park, so you'll have to come talk to us up here. yeah we would love your input um and appreciate chan bringing up uh arts and cultures event it's going to be super cool it's at their switchboard gallery so um that was really nice of them to try to highlight some of our stuff and it's really um one of the gems of el dorado county so very fitting very appreciative of Terry and her staff over there for taking the time to do that sort of event on Rubicon. And I don't know. I mean, for me, it's just like, for lack of a better term, my heart is full. Like, we've had so much volunteerism over the last couple months and commissioners getting involved and, you know, getting this grant potentially as we work through the environmental reform. I don't know what else a parks manager would want. You know, I think things are going really well, and I just really appreciate uh the commission over this last year i mean you guys have been super involved and engaged and like taking on extra projects and making you know extra time to come to tabling events and stuff like that i mean that really is um shining star of what commissioners can do and and it makes a difference the community sees what you guys do staff sees it and um you know it gasses me up a little bit for lack of a better term so i just really appreciate you guys really being about your role as commissioners and taking that time out of your day. I mean, even everybody's busy and taking that time to come and help out on a trail build day or come to the bike park. Even if it's just greeting people, hey, donuts are on the table, whatever it is, you know, the people see it, they appreciate it. They'll probably talk to you about it. And it's also an opportunity for the public to talk to their parks division in a little bit different context, right? There's things that they might tell a commissioner that they're not going to say to the parks manager, but kind of by way of that, I'm sure you guys communicated back to me and we're kind of better for it. So there's a lot of appreciation for volunteers, including our commissioners, you know, you guys are volunteering your time as well. And so I just say, thank you. It's our pleasure. Sure.

Absolutely. So any other staff comments? Having said that, we will adjourn at 430. Thank you, Danny. Thanks, Danny.

Glad to be here. Thanks, Danny.