El Dorado Solid Waste Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting

Would it be more prepared or something? I like good things, but not as much as I did.

Yeah, that's a lot of time yesterday.

Yeah, it takes a lot of time.

I learned so much every time. It's like, I forgot this and I forgot that.

Let me promote you guys to panelists.

It's a lot of hours. It is? Yeah, it is.

You look at it and read it.

Yeah.

Try to follow up with what we do in the past.

Well, I do.

Okay, I see you guys. Can you guys hear us?

Okay. I wanted to know. Can you guys hear us? I figured we probably could.

I can hear you. Okay, thanks. Okay, we can hear Tahoe, I think. We can hear Mike. All right. Let's just wait two minutes until 10 o'clock, but we actually, I think we're good.

It's off. I mean, I can't hear it, but it's off by 5 o'clock. Oh, that thing. Yeah.

Those things don't, I don't know what time they're on.

So some guy like, we'll turn a minute. Okay.

So it's going to be a tight quorum today. Obviously only have you three here. So we've never been a quorum with the old ones. We have two insolvent tau. And if we approve Mike for a remote meeting approval site, then we have six. So that'll do it. So we can go through the, remote meeting approvals, and approve Mike if this committee wishes to, and then we'll go. But otherwise, that'll be enough of a whole.

I try.

Yeah.

It's tough. As they say, we're running on cats, right? Yeah.

Yeah, burning cats. Yeah.

Okay. Anybody else? Oh, Mark's listening. Okay. Just one second. We'll get started. All right. Let's do it. So, Don, you're the chair, right? So, can you call the meeting to order?

Okay. Let's call the meeting to order.

Is that spot right over there? It's down there. Okay. Yeah. So, let me close the door. Sorry. Hang on. I'll hold you. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Well, we got off with a roll call yeah so okay so go ahead and roll call okay so.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Everybody read them read them out. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay Doug. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Since. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Present.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Dixon. HAB-Masyn Moyer- I put them on air so. HAB-Masyn Moyer- 8080 is not here.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Sarah present.

ENA.

Present.

Mike. Present. Thank you. Kara. Abstent. Chris Brown. Abstent. And Katherine.

Here.

OK. That's 6 of 11. So now we're going to move on to the remote meeting approvals. So Mike requested to be remote. Churchill requested to be remote today from Kern Park CSD. Is there any objections from the committee? Nope. Okay. All right, Mike, you're in. All right. No, it's as long as the committee, from what I remember, the Brown Act is like, unless someone like opposes it and like forces a vote, then like you.

Okay.

And that gets weird when someone's like, Allocating millions of dollars trying to house and stuff. In fact, this is us.

We don't have it.

All right. Let's do the pledge. Sorry to fire up the flag. I really need to get a flag to this room. Stand by. Give me a sec.

Yeah, there's probably a lot of them left over from the 2015. Yeah.

American flag. Oh, yeah. All right.

I'm not going to share the screen because we all know what old glory looks like, so let's just do it. All right, one, two, three. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, cool. Thanks, everyone. Okay, so open forum. So do we have any members of the public up in South Lake Tahoe? I assume not. No. Any members here? No. Okay, so no open forum. There's nobody online in the show. Yeah, well, I can see pant attendees, and we've got Zach and Mark Moss. And if they want to talk, they can raise their hands. Okay, so I'm going to share the agenda, you guys. Just give me one sec. Oh, that's not right. Sorry, I'm not there. See you. Okay. I'm sharing the agenda. All right. So pretty clean consent calendar. So next is the adoption calendar. Got the minutes, the staff reports. I upgraded the staff report.

This time, I noticed that we might want to, since we have kind of a smaller schedule, if we wanted to just kind of talk a little bit about something else. I can talk. Do you want to technically have to pull it?

Yeah, let's, let's, let's, can we just ask a question without pulling it?

Yeah. I think I have to pull it, but it doesn't, it's not a big, like I can pull it.

Let me just pull it. It's a good format. Yeah. I have the value person that actually has used the RMV grant program. Yeah.

I actually expected this to get pulled today, not maliciously. So I'm just going to make a note here that we're pulling the staff report. Okay.

Yeah. I think we have to do a motion.

We have to do a motion to pull something. Yeah. Okay. So from this Okay, all right.

Okay, I'll make a motion to reach a full report. Reference is full 26-0592A staff report. Don, do we have a second? I'll second. Okay, let's do the roll call. Don, can you read out the names, please? You can skip the people that are not here. Yeah, yeah.

Don, yes, here. Dixon, here. Sarah. Yes. Dina?

Yes.

Mike?

Yes.

And Catherine? Yes.

Okay, the motion proves 6-0. So we can talk about the staff report now. So that's a good example of how consent works, okay? Anytime you want to pull something off consent, just do a little vote. What the heck? Sorry, hang on. Why is this happening? Oh, I don't want to learn more. All right. okay so what do you guys want to talk about um i kind of so just i'll go over it real quick um curious in the state programs i mean yeah so i upgraded the staff report to kind of reflect um try to simple but i'm sorry i upgraded the staff report to clean up um kind of like the separation about how our unit is structured kind of like reflectors of of staff so Robin is more of the state program side. She's going to be taking on the LEA program. She already does the TA, tire amnesty, medical waste, roadside litter abatement, and complaints, which we're hunting now. And then Julie's side of the house is more diversion. I call it diversion, enforcement, and sustainability. And you can kind of see her roles and responsibilities. And then... I am the administrator and assist. I run EdSwag. I often do the city payment program and kind of this high-level stuff. So did anybody have any questions or comments? Go ahead, Don.

Okay, I had some on the first one on the LEA. Yeah. Just to clarify the timeline there, Placer County LEA ceased on April 30th.

Yeah.

And it appears that their responsibility then went to public health.

It always was with public health. They're technically the local enforcement agency for the county. It's really weird because we run, the reason why this happened is because we run the Union Vine treatment facility, which is a land. So there's always for decades, there's been this conflict of interest. So Public Health is actually the LEA, and they contract out, for years they contracted out to Placer County to do all landfill inspections count. We wanted to take over local control of that, but Placer County contract expired on April 30th, which was actually pretty useful because it kind of forced Cower Cycle's hands. They were really cagey about this until that contract expired. Then they were like, oh no, we don't have anybody doing it. So right now, Cower Cycle and Elderwood County are kind of custodian officially moves the LEA from public health to the CAO's office. And that will be basically me and Robin will be essentially under the administration of the CAO at that point, conducting landfill inspections, not under environmental protection. So it's like, we'll put on a different hat, code a different way, and then we are working for the CAO, who's the signature authority. That's how it's going. Because Jeff, our director, Runs mean in mind was essentially the signature authority for a regulated site, which we would expect. So we have to have a separation. That's why it works.

Yeah.

It's super.

Yeah. That's the same question.

Yeah. So I've been on three of those inspections with Paul Holloway. And I think he was doing those.

It depends on the site. Like STR EDV is expected monthly. Uh, he likes, uh, Lotus, the, uh, It's called Mountain Enterprises. It's expected quarterly. There's old closed landfills that are expected once a year. Some of them twice a year if they've been more problematic. It really depends on the site. We have about 30 sites. Most of them are once a year. The big boys are Eldorado Disposal, SCR, and Union Mine. So that's how we do it. So obviously, Robin going over to Union Mine has an environmental thing. inspecting her own director's facility would be a serious conflict. So we have to create separation county. Like the permit fees go to the CEO's office. They actually technically are issuing the permits. Like environmental management's not involved. It's just me and Robin happen to work for environmental management. So we're kind of, again, we're putting on a different hairstyle. You literally have to have different identifying locations. We have to have paths that say like Eldorado County LEA We don't want to drive around. We can drive around in an EMV vehicle, but it can't be more of a problem. So we're kind of strict about that.

So just to add to what you're asking, how many public agencies, other than the landfills, do you have? Because you mentioned that you went out to Lotus Enterprises.

So that's just a, the LEA program is the landfill regulation program for the state. So many things can capture that. obviously a traditional landfill, varying things in the ground, but like chipping and grinding operation, old burn sites, like legacy landfills, you might probably have run into them every now and then. They're all over the county, covered all over the place. Those, you inspect all those sites. So that's what the program is. It's kind of actually our bread and butter. It's like what solid waste of programs, it's one of their core program areas. We just never did it. It's baffling when you talk to other programs, they'd be like, they're not the other way. It's like, that's, That's like the majority of their work. So we meet people that do the LEA program and don't do SB 1383 at all. Very strange. They don't even know what's happening. That stuff can be married into public works or something like that.

Or if they're a big county.

Sacramento County's LEA is a big LEA. They do a lot of facilities like Kiefer and stuff like that. they don't know anything about SB 13 and 3. That's all with public works. So they're like, when we go to our little tag meetings, I try to, when they ask questions about SB 13 and 3, a lot of people in the room don't let's go. Because they're just a disconnect. So fortunately, I've been able to offer some insights.

Yeah, we moved recently with my co-operation. And then when they were doing, when Buster was doing the democracy on the franchise works, Have we stopped doing that since while we're in this phase?

No, we didn't stop for like a month, but PowerCycle's plugging the hole, trying to do those inspections. We knew there was going to be some transition difficulty. Again, this process has gone really slow. I cannot describe how difficult it is to do an interdepartmental project like this. It's very difficult. We just got a new CAO, Sue. We just, again, PowerCycle was kind of a little bit for a long time until we actually said look we're not going to do this anymore if we have to have plaster plaster also ran into a problem because paul holloway retired he moved he didn't retire he moved to the operations side and they brought in uh jason and samantha good inspectors over there but they kind of like were like are you guys going to keep wanting this because if we you do we need to know and we were like no so they kind of we basically called tower cycle bluff on it was like look we're going to end this like It's either it goes back to, either it goes to us or it goes back. And they were like, okay, so now we're making progress. You know, again, power cycle is fine. They just, there's a lot of regs about how this has to be done. And you have to have all this official documentation. We actually have to have the board do a vote item to transfer it from public health to us, to the CAO's office. It has to be a voted agenda. So that's what we've been doing, spending a lot of time on this. In addition to others.

I can see you putting on, saying you're putting on a different hat. You're going, you know, that doesn't eliminate the potential of bias of somebody that is controlling, has control of the franchise.

So one thing I would state is that, without that, is that we actually are really comfortable with this because it allows us to actually like we, most of the things we've caught problematically with like EDD or STR has been actually because we've gone there and then like, wait, that's not, you know, so going there and like getting on the facility and walking around and things that has double efficiency because it allows us to monitor the franchise agreements being, you know, complied with and that we're doing the LBA inspections. A good example I use is like, you know, TowerCycle inspects these facilities anyway. They just do it less frequently. They do it every 18 months. It's this little checkup inspection to make sure you're doing it right. Back in the late 2010s, Paul missed a bunch of stuff at Union Mine. And then TowerCycle came in and found it. And it was like hundreds of thousands of dollars to fix. So, you know, sometimes inspectors are more aligned to find problems. Like I want to find those problems or they become catastrophic, you know, before you have to get contracts out, cost the county six figures and stuff like that. So I think of the LEA inspectors as kind of a wall to be able to look for that kind of stuff, because we're really just the first wave for the Vanguard. If we see something wrong, it goes to Cowerson. Enforcement is in Cowerson. This is kind of one of those programs where you're a security guard. monitoring the situation. But if anything actually gets serious, if anything actually is like, whoa, that's a problem, it immediately goes to the state. So I think it's a good program for us to have. And just in the couple of months that me and Robin have been working on this program, we found several sites that were regulated sites that needed a system that were not the system. Because Foster County doesn't live here. They don't drive around in this area. They don't look for stone. Robin went out on a weekend trip and was like, hey, That's a big pile of chipped wood. What's going on over there? And all of a sudden we found out it's supposed to be a regulated facility. They never, Paul never found that. He doesn't believe you. So that's why local control is great. Because you see things when you're not working. So we're going to continue to pursue it and I'll keep the staff updated.

I had just one more. The RMDZ Oh yeah. That was pretty interesting. I looked up exactly what the, what is it? The Marcella Foundation was last night. And within a half hour, I was already getting emails from Cal Recycle on food waste.

So yeah, Marcella Foundation is really cool. RMDZ, we've struggled to spend this money because like for the longest time, Cal Recycle has basically been like, you can only spend it promoting the RMC. It's like how much swag and pamphlets and, token websites, and we actually do. You know, this is ridiculous. So all of a sudden, the grant managers called us up and were like, hey, we're opening this up to a ton more projects. And we were like, and you have a ton more money. So we were, this is great. So we met with like Joanne Brash from Product Stewardship Council. We met with the Marcella Foundation. We chose to go to the Marcella Foundation because they basically had a shovel-ready project with cold storage and Tahoe. So this really cool nexus, like a kind of a youth community center where they're going to teach life skills and stuff like that. And we felt like it could make a serious dent in the program objectives. So TowerCycle agreed. So right now we just signed, just flushed out the contract. And as soon as we could go, the Marsala Foundation goes out, buys that freezer and that fridge. We started taking data for the rest of the year and probably through next year and money well spent. So. Don D' doesn't sit on the table great. Don D' And then nobody new cycles, probably smaller, but we'll do follow up projects cool and then the California product stewardship Council is great they're always waiting, so we need to do a different.

Don D' And I had one more just a big picture, but i'm like a little everybody else go and if they want to hit individual does anybody have any other questions about the staff report a new staff report.

Don D' Now. Don D' All right, don go ahead one.

Looking forward, you know, it's struck me for quite a while that, well, first of all, now that we are done with our five-year report on the soil waste management plan, and we've come to the conclusion that the plan that we have is a referral document, it kind of struck me as, at this point, this is our best

in the case right now of an active plan but this is kind of what staff's doing again we're just one piece of the puzzle if that's why dina has a plan you know the csds have a plan the haulers have a plan so there's a lot of stuff that's not on the stress that about like a lot of what's happening with sp 13 and 3 is on the hauler side we're verifying that's happening as part of jewel's job but they're doing kind of a heavy lifting and then there's some stuff that's recent. I mean, like we've had these ordinance revisions. I didn't touch the ordinances for a couple of years, but now we've got three of them going at once. And, you know, and SWAC was a little bit more work around the turn of the year when we did all the reforms and stuff. The idea was that it was a lot less, which it was, I got this agenda together. So it was a lot easier. But yeah, I mean, it's, This kind of gives a sense of where we are and Julie's more on that. You know robin's running those states stable state programs that have existed that are fleshed out and julie's kind of running the more. Power cycles wishlist kind of things where their state programs, but they're buzzier there's more set up and there's more education robin's more enforcement oriented julie's more educational so. And that reflects their careers. Robin's a licensed to our EHS. He always has sustainability.

We are going to need to have a documentation that the next five-year people who use this have something to refer back to this. What did you say we were going to do? And what was the action plan? And how do we do it? And then be able to work from there. We're not going to have that. We don't have something that is what we designated formally as our plan. Now, this is pretty good in that this has gone ahead and essentially, as of now, this is pretty much the top strategies, similar to the strategy idea that we had in the plan. Sure. And these things could be beefed up to include some of the criteria that we had for strategies like identifying the key tasks and then the action plan and then the implementation plan and the dates. And without getting into all that right now, the question that's in the back of my mind is there's You know, going back, way back when we used tickler files to track things, you know, folders and see what, you know, each project and what we had. Then we went to spreadsheets and then the industry had software you can buy to project management and tracking these things. I'm just kind of curious what's behind the scenes on here as far as the county's policy for actually documenting and and tracking commitments. And well, if there's something back there that you can supply, like for a starting point to see where we are, as far as like, like this doesn't have any, it says we're going to do all these things, but it doesn't have any action dates of anything, but I'm, I'm guessing there's something, there is some sort of tracking system that's formal.

No, that's not, these programs are highly interdisciplinary. I mean, they, they range from custom level programs to extreme programs. unique programs that have their own timelines the rmdz for example is has is a cow recycle program on a cow recycles in cow recycle interface that has its own timeline and reporting there's no point in building any kind of county side tracking or anything like that well we can allocate time if we're like hey we're you know there's we create um we create project strings that like are basically bank accounts that show where the money goes. We create contracts between us and the Marcello Foundation. We have structure with that, but something like the RMDC is us administering a state program. I mean, we're, and most of Robin's job deals with interfaces. I mean, if you go to Robin's workload, I'm sorry. We go to Robin's workload. I mean, A lot of this stuff like TA, LEA, this stuff is all on state interfaces. It's not some, it's not tracked by us. We track our times. We track money, but we don't, the objectives are clearly laid out. Programs are clearly administered. So, you know, with things like SB 1383, we have our own timelines there too, like the implementation record and dealing with audits and the corrective action plan. We deal with those kinds of things, but There's no master program that tracks all the stuff, tracks solid rates, because it's all this hodgepodge group of different kinds of programs ranging from random grants to traditional inspection.

And that was the one, that was probably one of the main reason, not the main reason, but the top of the reasons why we had to go out for a consultant to do the first one, because they had to get and pull all this stuff out of you guys to come up with a plan that meets basic planning criteria throughout the industry. So we said we don't need a consultant to do that, but this is more, this is a good tool as a presentation, but it's not a plan. It's more like an agenda right now. And somehow we'll have to kind of put this as an agenda item that we're going to need to kind of figure out where we're planning on going on documenting a formal plan with an implementation and action plans.

So my understanding was basically we had this, all these pages and all these things and pretty much be implemented. And none of those were planned to go away, but it didn't move the needle enough to go. So I, my sense is I don't see any of these going away, but they didn't make the difference that we needed to make. So it's like, let's get those few items that are more powerful that would get us, and that's kind of- Generally state-mandated ones.

I mean, the state kind of walked in there and said, kind of answered the question for us to say what we want to do. Yeah. They were the ones that were like, C&D, organic waste, now packaging's on the table. That's kind of like Julie's now pivoting to packaging. Right. SB 15 and 54. She adapts to what the state wants us to kind of like wants us to work on a lot of ways. They don't officially say it, but they kind of have this timeline where they're like, well, this is coming next. So you're going to want to allocate your person to that. That's kind of different from Robin's job where she's working on these, I would describe them as pretty stable programs that have existed and always existed. And then I kind of fill in the gaps, you know, and try to adapt it, the management and administrative levels with our ordinances, with our policies. you know, meeting those criteria. And then, and we're getting heavy load from just the franchises right now, especially with rates and stuff like that. So administering the franchise agreements is also a priority for us and making sure that the franchise is, you know, operating. So that's another thing that we, that's been a timeline. But I mean, our, Julie's fundamental objective is to create a decreased diversion. Right. But she also has to do it under the onus of power cycles mandates. So it's like, she can create all the programs she wants, but if PowerCycle says, now let's do SB 1383, she has to comply with SB 1383. And so does all of us.

And it's got great promise for getting moving. I mean, I think that was by, you know, all this effort, all these programs, and we didn't make that much of a difference. So let's focus on other things. Nothing's going away, but let's focus on a few things that'll get us, you know, like 10% or something.

With SB 1383, you're talking about program target dates and these kinds of things, and it's like, SB 1383 was one of those things where it's like, you can create all the target dates you want to, but you have to. Basically, it's like, as soon as you make a plan, it gets changed. There's all these variables that we don't understand. Like, for example, like, we have been spending grant money on procurement, and now we don't have grant money on procurement. The county has procurement responsibilities, so we have to, like, we have to adjust and make a change and stuff like that. But I can't say, oh, we're going to procure this much organic waste by 2027. I don't control the purse of this company. I can't just create a bank account and be like, okay, we're going to buy like a thousand tons of compost.

But it could be that you have a focus of promote people in the community using that compost.

Or we come up with a realistic number. We go like, okay, well, I want to raid X amount of money from the general fund, I have to go to the board to ask that, is that palatable to them? Then that gets integrated into the plan. It's like, you know, it's like, I would describe these programs as, you know, ironically, that implementation record you're talking about, it really actually makes sense with Robin's side, because the programs are so structured. We know when TA is going to hand in the new TO students. We know when the LEA program, everything's regimented. It's like, it's a very Robin wakes up and goes to work and she has a work plan that day almost every day. And it's, it's the same list of inspections. It's the same thing. It's almost like closer to being a food inspector. So like Julie's job is highly adaptable. She wakes up one day and all of a sudden here, here's SB 54. We've decided that this is a priority. Oh, by the way, we don't know the rules. We didn't, we wrote them and we don't understand them yet. And so we can't really tell you. But you do it. But you do it. So part of her job is just interpreting voice, anticipating decisions, you know, like trying to see what, through the tea leaves, about what actually is going to be required here, what actually matters, you know.

You know, to John's point, if we had those areas where this is a focus, so such as this material, that people that I hope have gone there said, this is great. but I need something to put it in my vehicle. You know, I mean, it's like you're out there with a shovel with a bunch of guys that are 70s and 80s. And that's not working very well. But if you could, even if you pay for it, but if the county, instead of their buying the material, it's like do something so you can make it easier for people to get it and then advertise the heck out of it. Because, I mean, there's a demand. I mean, you know, a lot of people have a lot of properties. we just gotta make it easier for them to get material. So, I mean, that's where I'd like to say, it's like, this is a focus, this is where we are, you know, let's have a goal for where we might move that. And then what would some strategies be so that we could move it? Or the individual task that you need to accomplish that. Right.

Because we're back to where we were initially. And what sticks in the back of my mind, because I was perfectly, willing to kind of go along with that type of philosophy up until now. But what sticks in my mind and the reference of 1383 was that we had six years to implement 1383. And when the time came, we find out a meeting three months later that we've had to self-certify ourselves and report ourselves that I don't know how many of the items that were supposed to be done in that six-year period by work that we didn't meet those requirements. And that's the same system that we're going back to now.

That's like a little bit misconstrued. I mean, SB 1383 regulations weren't even formalized till the late, the early 2020s. Like we didn't have a framework to work on. How can you write a local ordinance about organic waste when you don't know what the state is actually going to require in those ordinances? The SB 1383 was passed in 2016, but it was passed on the legislative side. It had no regulatory framing. It didn't have any regulations. They hadn't even got those things to OAL before the pandemic. And they were rejected by OAL multiple times. California's own legislative watchdog was like, go back. You can't do this. I mean, nobody had any regulatory clarity. This is how PowerCycle does business. The legislature passes a law. It gets dumped on their lap. They have to create regs. It takes them years to do so because regs are complicated, especially if you're creating regs from thin air. It goes through layers of lawyers, legislation, rewrites, OAL, and then they dump the regs on everybody and they're like, you have to do this. But it's like, who's ready for that? Like a handful of jurisdictions that were super activist about it and front ran it, meaning they were like, oh, we're just going to assume these are the regs. They were all very wealthy coastal jurisdictions that did this. They were ready, but they still had program discrepancies because all of a sudden power cycles said, well, actually, you know, you have to have a paper procurement policy that uses this much recycled papers. Oh, we didn't do that. How would anybody know that you needed to do that? So we have to, so I get what you're saying, but a lot of the solid waste business is, especially the regulatory side of the state, it's reactive. We can't, We can't anticipate what they're doing because we don't have a framework to build a program. Now, as soon as we got a framework for SB 1383, flights turned. City of Placerville, City of South of Tahoe, Eldorado County Incorporated, passed ordinances, passed franchise agreements, passed procurement policies, started implementing curb sales, started doing waste characterization, started doing everything. So we reacted very well. I'll give us a pat on the back for that.

We're we reacted so well that power cycle often implies that we're way ahead of people.

So it's like, I don't, I don't feel like we're behind. Yeah. But anyway, that's, that's, that's the gist of it.

So we have, that's how Julie has to operate. We have to react. If power cycle like passed,

a law and they got ranks to us the next day, we work on those programs. That's how we would do this. So Dina knows, a lot of other people in this room know, if you don't have a framework, you can't create a program. And nobody's going to let you spend in pain. So you have a man named Steve. Dina can't just go to the board at city council and be like, give me six figures to implement. It's like, they don't even have legs yet. So anyway, just last notice, SP 15 and 54 is on the horizon. So Julie is researching. We're talking to TowerCycle. We're getting information. We're talking to haulers. We're figuring it out. And we have a timeline as soon as possible. We don't set arbitrary year updates. We just say now. As soon as we can do something, that's how we're doing. So it didn't take you forward from there. Yeah. All right. So now we have, you guys have nothing else on the consent calendar.

We have to, do we have anybody, Mike or anybody there? It's hard when we don't. When you're not here, I just don't want to go live. You guys have any input or questions or anything? No, but I'll do that. The only question I had was for Tim about how the CSD has been communicating and working on their parts that they had to improve and for the franchise agreement, et cetera.

It's better. Long story short, we can talk about that in the agenda item, but long story short, it's better. We've been making more progress with Mr. Hornstrom.

Okay, that was all I wanted to ask.

All right. All right, I'm going to, so we need to do a vote to approve the consent calendar. Does anybody, so it includes the minutes, staff reports, the EDD, STR, waste recycling tonnage reports, and the RDRS reports. Does anybody want to make a motion for that?

I'll make a motion.

Tina.

To approve the adoption of the calendar.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- The adoption of the agenda and the approval of the consent talent.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- agenda and the consent.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And I'll go through the role here. Yeah. Okay. Yes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Yes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Yes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Yes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Yes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Yes.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay, cool. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Awesome motion passes. Okay, I'm going to just queue up. And I'm glad that staff report generated some discussion. I think it was a lot easier about what we're actually kind of aligned with. And it's subject to change. Obviously, all of a sudden, SB 1554 could become a bigger issue. We have to adapt.

And the 1554, that's the product development or whatever?

Yeah. Okay, I'm going to bring up the goal language. Let me just share my screen again. So this is, I'll kind of cue this up for this. This got a little bit messed up. Okay. So I put the goal language here not to redo it, but just to remind everybody what the goal was this year. So things got messed up. Dixon did her presentation. Excellent job.

I had to like read a little, okay, it's your 20 minute presentation. It went really well. We got like six minutes.

We got, we got, we wanted more time, but it was fine. And actually the board received it really well. Um, it gave them a heads up about what they're up against and what they're dealing with right now. It was really good. And then, um, Doug's our new chair. And in the April meeting, we created an ad hoc committee to explore, um, a yearly task this year. Um, That ad hoc committee has not met yet. That doesn't mean that it can't be, but it hasn't met yet. Mr. Venable, our chair, is out because his wife is having surgery. So I'm going to give him some time and his family some time to get that going. But we need to get the ad hoc committee meeting going to start getting this goal objective met. FYI, it doesn't have to be a year. It can be a multi-step goal. If it's something big and ambitious, it can take a couple. It's okay. But admittedly, we're kind of behind the cube all year. And who was on that? I have the exact people, but it was Doug, Chris, Catherine, Dina, and I think you, Don, I'm not sure. But nonetheless, we can always, add-on committees are flexible. You can always add and remove. The add-on committee has been legally created. So it can meet and get going. And that can do the bulk of the work. That's kind of like what we're trying to do make sure that the adult committee kind of did some lifting and then the whole agenda, the head SWAC group here could approve. Now this meeting could be a couple of things. This could be an approval for a board presentation. This could be a check-in to make sure it was going correctly. The July meeting was always going to be variable depending on the goal. Could be a first draft certification, whatever. It doesn't have to be a presentation. goes and talks to 100 business. So we had an objective to do the goal to follow up on the solvents management plan by developing a focused evaluation monitoring. So that is still the objective of the ad hoc committee that the ad hoc committee needs to meet.

And then it's always advised from their plan, but we did, I mean, it kind of led up to it. Yeah. So I mean, start from the end of putting them in.

This is great. We have a great framework to work with. The ad hoc committee just needs to meet. I'm not going to lie. I want to get the ad hoc committee going here, but we have swamped the environmental management with the LEA. We just did an ordinance revision for TTSD. We just implemented mandatory service up there. It has been a major time suck. Probably talked to about 150 to 100 people at this point about why am I getting billed for service now? in my Tahoma cabin that I've owned for 50 years, you know, a lot of those conversations. So it's been, and then we had to, you know, me and Jeff had to go in front of the board in South Lake Tahoe and talk about this. So it's been a lot, a lot of work. And then we're in the rate season with franchises getting rates right. We found some irregularities that were, You know, being stamped out, make sure the franchising rates being done proper. So, um, it didn't, we didn't meet, but what I was going to do was reach out to Doug after this meeting and get a timeline and start scheduling space. Then by September, we can have something, you know, something to offer, uh, that we can move forward. But that doesn't preclude any head SWAT member from contributing. So. That's why we kind of moved it to an ad hoc system because if someone felt like just, you know, having a cup of coffee and going at it, Doug really slammed up hard with the last year's presentation. He just kind of woke up one day and did a bunch of stuff. I remember.

He was just feeling it, you know?

So I want to give you, everyone has personal and professional lives. I want to give everybody the flexibility they need to work on things when they need to work on it. And that's catered to an ad hoc. So let's get that committee going. Obviously, if Doug was here, we'd have what to do, what to say. But I will reach out to Doug to get those add-ons going. And if anybody wants to jump in, they can. Add-on committees are flexible. So that's why I put the goal language on. Do you guys still like the goal? I still think the goal is a noble goal. I still think it's a good goal. Don, you submitted some documentation past the deadline. Sorry.

Yeah, it was just, it was, I'm just confused on this, this way, this is going back and forth. And then, so look at the meeting minutes and you have to spend 20, 25 minutes to go find it on the, on the recording. And it just was in a hurry. Well, I wanted to get those things out just so that everybody can think about these things.

And so you can present that at the next meeting, or you can present that at the 2027 goal agenda, or we can integrate that into the headhawk meeting from Edspot. You know, like there's, there's plenty to do with that documentation. The only reason I rejected it for this meeting was it would pass with that. That's it. We can, any answer I remember is free to tack on documentation.

But the key point to that was that I was trying to focus on the fact that we had very, had some very specific recommendations that were made to the board. Right. I didn't see how those might fall into just those goals, which are kind of like a January 2nd.

Right. The goal framework in the January meeting is always going to be broad. And, you know, what I envisioned is that the goal in January broad, generally in ad hoc communities form, and then the goal narrows and narrows and narrows to a point of where throughout the year, we refined what we're actually trying to truly accomplish versus It's kind of difficult when everyone comes back from Christmas break to be like, we're going to do this very specific thing this year. It's like, that's good, but we generally want to build a consensus. I think this is a good consensus. I read through what you submitted and talk about openly, but I think it's just this more laser focused and more specific, which is a great thing to submit to the ad hoc. That's exactly what it would be beneficial to. So when we get the ad hoc committee going, you submit that document to the group And we can see and we can start working. But again, at SWAC, meta and SWAC meetings are more overall. So this meeting kind of feels like a wash because we're not accomplishing. But we are. We're all getting used to this new system, this new meeting frequency and understanding where we're getting the work. That's right. The Ad Hoc Committee? No.

Maybe.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- That's why next meeting is September that's the next one, but I need it, so we need to get the ad hoc committee going so let's get the ad hoc maybe go. HAB-Masyn Moyer- that's what we need to do. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And is that the Chair does the Chair of the out, so I will talk to Doug yeah we'll get dates and anybody can start submitting whatever they want a little crazy.

HAB-Danny Teodoru, and that's to prepare. HAB-Danny Teodoru, or language for.

No, that's to work on this goal right here, to follow up on the 2025 solid waste management plan review by developing a focused evaluation and monitoring. That might mean a more specific goal next year. That might mean that your goals are integrated into the monitoring plan and evaluation. This goal is what we're doing right now. So the ad hoc and an ad hoc committee has been christened for that. So it can get as crazy specific as it wants, or it can be broad, or it can change objectives, depending on how LSWAP feeds. They go along.

Can I verify our November meeting is that the 9th?

No, the next meeting is in September. I'm sorry.

There is no November meeting. September 14th, September 14th.

So let's get the ad hoc committee going over July and August and see if we can get something tangible for September. Yes, okay, about that.

And then when you have the meetings, then what I understand what you're saying, like, I don't remember if I was on that committee or not. I don't think I was, but what you were saying, if they were going to meet by Zoom, anybody else on the podcast can join?

We created an ad hoc committee with members. I'd have to go back and see if they had the ad hoc.

Yeah. Same thing with the play.

A lot of ways an ad hoc is creating a less regulated player. So you can kind of actually hash things out and get things done. And then this layer is more of like a legal layer that allows you to formally approve stuff, send stuff to the board, you know, actually use things. Like if we had met and done a bunch of ad hoc work, in theory, we could review the document and send it to the board for presentation today or something. That's where ad hoc, that's where AdSwag's meeting crew here actually administer stuff. We all kind of agreed that the ad hoc committees are better at actually producing material, you know, versus Ed Swack's general. Ed Swack's better at reviewing.

But if somebody wanted to talk to Doug while they're doing this, we can do that?

Yeah. I mean, I would generally, as a rule of thumb, keep communications as open as possible with the ad hoc committee, you know, But ad-hoc committees have significantly less rules. You're allowed to, I can't say this word, but you're allowed to functionalize a little bit. That's how sometimes it works. You know, like you can get into a group where two people are working on something in parallel and then the committee decides which one they like. That's how it works. So ad-hoc committees, I would encourage a collaborative environment. It's kind of like head-squat but less formal. Like operate the same, talk to each other, work together. but we don't have to have this relayer rigid structure. There's no minutes. There's no approval of the consent calendar. There's no date and time that it has to be on the ledger star. It removes all those layers of jars, which you have expressed well enough.

Well, I like the collaboration portion of it. I like the, you know, where the remainder of the head swag gets to jump in at the very end. to look at what's been done rather than being able to provide things or have more frequent updates. But then it comes across more rather than being collaborative with everybody. At that point, it becomes almost as if it's criticism.

Yeah, I mean, but that's the job of the general committee ex-vac member is to jump in sometimes and be like, I don't think that's a good idea. I mean, if you go to the board and you're like, I have this idea, like occasionally one of the board members is going to be like, I don't think so. That's how politics and committees work. I mean, you have to get everyone's approval. So when you're in the AdOp community, you're thinking about what Dean makes. You're thinking about what you think. You're thinking about what Doug thinks. It's kind of like getting the air of a room and trying to produce a product that you think has Swackle support. It's okay to have criticisms. That's how we get a better project.

So way back when Greg Stanton was the rec. That's way back. I know. We had put together for something to do. I don't remember what it was. But a lot of people wanted to be on it. And then from what I remember, it seemed that there was a number. The amount of people that can be involved in that was set by the Brown Act. It couldn't happen. A lot of people reached a quorum. There was something weird about how many people can get into that thing.

I don't know if there's some. I don't remember it. HAB-Masyn Moyer- If you do have a you can't have like four of us not officially yeah. HAB-Masyn Moyer- In a sense, so that's that's why you can't have everybody. HAB-Masyn Moyer- But, but I mean you can always have that one on one. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Conversation yeah.

HAB-Terry Palmos- Okay, what do you know the red anybody else Mike str or South like Tom sorry. No? Okay. That's okay.

No, sorry.

Zoom on a phone is hard. That's okay. Don't worry. You're still here for now. Okay. So discussion had no action item for 260609. 260606, updates. Let me share my screen. Hold on a sec. We're cooking. You know, the July meeting was always short anyway. That's why we did the tour. There's definitely, I don't feel like we're not. Let me get this going. It's weird. Okay. Wow. All right. So this is our website. I attached this, Julie, this was Julie's initiative with our, our group. I can play the video. I don't know if it's going to show up on the share, but let me, let me do that.

This, this seems like this is something that we have been doing and doing since before this was initiated, 1383 was initiated. And then when we got real close, you guys met with all these restaurants and it's been a long process. How does this, how does this work? I mean, So you're expecting that somebody in the general public is going to go and look at this and understand what, before they go to a restaurant, to kind of familiarize them so that when you're dealing with your meal, you're going to have to follow... This is for the back of the house.

This is for training for the back of the house. Let me just play the video. I mean, it's for, you know, Julie created this initiative to... Do I have the link here?

No.

Oh, can you? Hold on guys. Okay. Okay.

I want to share my screen.

I don't know if this is going to play for them, but I don't know. So there's a video. There's sound. Sorry, I'm not getting it.

You should not stop looking at it on YouTube. It shows up on YouTube. So it's just

you know, a jingle in the background. It's not. So we can just kind of watch this. So, you know, it talks about, this is for the restaurant side. This is for them, for the back house, for the, you know, the restaurant managers, for the, you know, for the front house staff. This allows them, this is for them so our restaurant inspectors can share this with them when they're not like there's a problem or contamination or compliance and stuff so this was created as a baseline for for them well and make sure for staff yeah and we can expand this to go to citizens in the front front of the house next to go like okay staff knows how to do it getting the staff going is one thing you know um Is that turn over high on this. Of course. So that's why we wanted to pray, you know, stable area where they could, you know, where they could learn. New new new new chef and learn stuff about they can just share it. This is kind of public domain for a while, you know, Just goes over this stuff, though. And we have more information.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

So the health specialists are aware of the program and can share this video. So our restaurant inspectors. And Julie is always on hot standby to go troubleshoot people. And the haulers can also help troubleshoot people. So they have so many resources to learn this. But this is something Julie really wanted to do. And I like this. It's a video that kind of goes over things and is shareable and helps people learn. Mentioned. Stormwater there. We spent a million dollars on this video.

Wasn't the last time. There we go. Thanks.

So that was Eldorado Schools' version. You can queue it up and change it for other callers and stuff like that. But anyway, that's the video. That's just something that Julie worked on, among many other things. We've got this. We're still under the SB 1383 audit, which we're dealing with. We're starting to work on SB 54. We're finalizing some administrative stuff. Oh, sorry. Hang on. Hi, Zach.

Hey, guys. Sorry to interrupt your agenda. Just on the note of SB54, we will likely be doing a chat with PowerCycle on that topic a second, you know, kind of a follow-up to the SB54 chat with PowerCycle that we did last month. I think that'll be July 22nd, so we should see a... a save the date going out for that soon, hopefully this week.

Awesome. Thank you.

Yeah. So just wanted to give a heads up on that. And then, you know, just a big, big round of applause for Julie and getting this video put together too. I think this is, you know, just from a practical perspective, super helpful for restaurants, but also the type of thing too, that, you know, as you guys do have this ongoing compliance evaluation, you know, this is something to kind of make the case to Jace of, you know, all the effort that you guys have been putting in with outreach to restaurants and, you know, trying to help them out with getting them into compliance.

Yeah. Thanks, Zach. So this is just one little piece of what we're doing this little video, but we've done a lot of public public announcements through our public information officer. We've done a lot of individual outreach different restaurants and businesses.

She had one of a presentation down to the universe.

Yeah, I mean, we can always talk about that. Julie likes to tailor a presentation specifically to the audience. So if she's meeting with restaurant business owners, it's going to be different than meeting with the Chamber of Commerce or anything like that. But that's what Julie is such a pro at, is communications with different kinds of people. So she's doing the lifting out there with SB 1383. As you heard, Tower Cycle likes it, so they're cool with it. And then Julie continues to work with City Plus Reel. City of South Lake Tahoe on those kinds of things. So, you know, I don't want, there's definitely some things, some tidying up with SB 1383 I'd still like to do. One thing we didn't get done that's finally getting done now is revising our procurement policy. I kind of finally dropped the hammer on that to the county. I was like, we need to do this. So I created an update for that. So hopefully that's going to go to the board and get that fixed. And then we need to integrate TTSD's franchise agreement into SB 1383. We've been waiting for that because we knew we were going to have to revise it. It's this little zone north of Emerald Bay. We've always kind of left them alone because it was like exempted.

We didn't know that they were part of this.

It was residential. Sorry, Zach.

My hand up so I can ask him.

I have a question about the video when it's a good time.

I'm sorry, Sarah. Yes, I'm sorry. I had muted us for some reason. I don't know why. But I heard that you have a question for the video.

Yeah. Um, I was kind of thinking that there might be a South Lake Tahoe version of that video made. Is that on the horizon at all?

Yeah, we can get that done. Um, we want to just have it. It was at first it was going out with elder disposal and then we're going to fan it out to, to the South Lake Tahoe version.

Awesome. Thank you.

Yeah. We just want to regionalize it a little bit, but everyone jackets make more sense. So yeah, these are those kind of little initiatives that Julie's working on with SB 1303 on the county side. And we're also getting, Mike, this is from your side, we're getting more progress with Cameron Park CSD. They have a new general manager. He's getting ordinances moving, getting franchise agreements moving. And then the power cycle just released a CSD cheat sheet, which was really helpful. I sent that immediately to other whales. Does any other jurors, Tina, do you want to talk about the state of Bostonville?

We're working on SB 1383, getting the franchise agreement finally done. Okay. We've got a procurement.

Yeah, your procurement's going great.

Yeah, already going. So, you know, just working on, you know, to hear right now.

Yeah. Sarah, do you want to talk about City of South Lake Tahoe?

Hey there. I don't really know that I have any updates right now. Catherine, anything on your mind? Nothing new, I guess.

Okay. Awesome. Mike, is there anything from Cameron Park? I've been talking to Mark, Mr. Hornstra, about just some updates, but is there anything you want to share with SB 1383? No, nothing. Okay. All right. Anybody else?

Quiet time of year.

There's a lot getting done. It's just kind of different. It's like everything's on the move. Like I've got so many things related to that. Me and Julie have so many things related to SB 1383 going right now, but they're just kind of haven't finished and materialized or got more work.

on information materials. I just hear so many people that call me. They go, we know you're working on this. What do you do with it? And I think there's just still a lot of.

Continuing to work with the haulers to refine public education is really important. Again, hitting these restaurants, these high volume food facilities, that's really important. Julie jumping on SB 54, which has a lot, isn't related to SB 1383, but it kind of is in a lot of ways because we're talking about composable packaging materials. So that's a huge deal is like kind of, I think throughout SB 1383, almost everyone in this room and this committee agrees that packaging material, food packaging material is one of our biggest problems with getting people to, I went to Target yesterday and I peeked in the organic bin and I saw non-composable packaging. issues.

So I think getting that going would make something new, but it just takes a long time. So it's most of the grocery stores I go to, they're all full of packaging. Food does last very well in the refrigerator with that. But then just that kind of practical, if you're saving your things up to put into your English can, put them in the compostable bags.

Yeah.

You know, then you just put them out and it's easy.

Yeah, we've been getting less complaints this summer. I mean, it's been a cooler summer, but we have been getting less complaints. You know, it's going good. There's just some things we want to continue to tidy up again. Julie wants to be out there more rather than doing power cycle bureaucratic stuff. More like just actually shaking hands with people figure this out. You do run into some interference with corporate structures. You can't just go into a Chipotle and start doing it this way because they have a corporate policy. So that might be something that she does in the future is to explore corporate outreach to our franchises that are in the area and just see what they're doing and what their plan is and how we can get local franchises on board. People like Walmart Olay, SaveMark. They should really be on the vanguard of this and have it figured out quicker than just everybody else. So we want to make sure that they're not stuck.

SaveMark has been really good.

Yeah. And then if any of them are slacking, help them figure it out. At least get them. Sometimes it's just a local franchisee that's like, I don't know how to tell a corporate about this problem. They're ignoring me or something like that. Maybe we can help them out and figure it out.

Yes, yeah. Contamination, say, is a constant problem, whether it's in the recyclables or in the organic waste. I thought there was somebody from a long exposure that signed in, so this is probably designed for them, but have you seen, and we have a record of, what is the tonnage of whether it's organics or recycles, we keep saying that they're not going to take it. What has been diverted? The tonnage has been diverted because there's been contamination that way. I mean, in this year, I mean, when we went to see the classroom earth, everything goes in one can and we get 67% of their organics as the last thing we pulled out and it was perfect. How much of it is actually being diverted? There's something, there's a, you know, there's a ceramic cup in there. The whole load is going. Well, STR. How much has been diverted to landfill because of contamination? Do we have a record of that?

We don't. That, that, those numbers are popped into MSW. So like anytime the carpet, all the disposal has a contaminated load and they have to decide that it's like, all right, this is MSW. then it goes into the NSW first. I don't believe there's a specific, this should have been food waste, but it's not category for monitoring. But that is something that we might want to explore looking at is, I mean, they're looking at contamination rates. They can tell how much contamination they have and they can tell who's contaminating it. But I don't think we're metering, okay, this is how many tons actually got contaminated. Because as soon as it's contaminated, It's a sense that it's head wall and it's kind of co-mingled with, literally co-mingled with all the other things. But we can try to parse that out. Maybe Eldorado disposal has it.

That's the purpose of having a MRF is to be able to segregate that stuff out. And the plaster MRF, I mean, they don't even have a problem with paper, with plastic bags or the plastic coverings that you get your 24 bottles of water. They don't have a problem with any of that stuff. That's what a MRF is for.

They say they don't have it. on that stuff. They do sometimes. Their machines aren't perfect. They do have operational issues. And there's still forms of contamination throughout the process. And, you know, their MRF is at a different scale than our MRF, as I've said many times. If we could have something like that here, we probably would. But there's not necessarily the space for the funding or technology or scale of service to be able to pass So, I mean, I really like that facility and single stream is kind of really, it can be really cool, but there's also, there are industry well-known industry side effects that can happen, you know, regarding I'm more, I'm more than paying attention to the total organic waste produced, you know, the total organic recycling numbers being growing stuff, because as people grow on the program, We should be seeing those numbers grow with higher participation rates. And if those numbers flatline, then that might be a sign that we're getting contamination issues. We've been really strict about contamination. But yeah, if those numbers flatline, I would look at contamination. But you're right. One person can spoil the party with a cup.

But they're not because they've been pulled out. Or if it gets to where it's going up in Ukiah, That's supposed to be our state-of-the-art MERV. So they're going to separate a lot of that stuff out anyway, right?

The food waste is currently picked up by all the restosal and commingled with grain waste and shipped to you guys. That's kind of the system. So it wouldn't have to go to Davis anymore. Or no, excuse me, go to Davis and that's the back, truck's back haul. So that's how that's going to be. But again, I'm at the The Rose, the Foster County MRF is very impressive. And that level of technology would be very nice to have in Colorado. But it's very expensive. It's very expensive to develop. And there's been a lot of hiccups over there with problems. And, you know, I would like to get a better system that we have now, but we already spent so much money developing, which is actually working better.

Yeah.

But you know, we have to continue to sort responsibly. So we're focused on sort of education.

Yeah. Yeah. They do a really nice job going there. I mean, I have been impressed where they're directing you. They're very helpful. So, I mean, that part's working. So if you get to that point, taking it in, health education is very good. Yeah.

I think a single stream facility like that is possible. Generally, it's possible. Like if, It's still possible with like Folsom and Almedore County, somewhere out by Seaside. And that's a little bit exciting, those facilities. And it's years away, but even if we wanted to do it, well, so. So we have to work with what we have, which is sorting. The thing about sorting is it's work, but we can't just Hopefully packaging. But yeah, let's look into how much rejected loads. I would like to, if we have a number for that, for any jurisdiction, that would be, or any franchise.

I have just one more question. And this hit me when I was looking at the RDRSs and 1383 organics. It's not like the 17 of the RDRS. when they talk about they have to do a monthly organ sample. And it's, I looked up what the protocol was for that. And I don't exactly see what the value of that is in a practical sense. Maybe Zach has something to say about it, but what I could understand from that is you take a 200 pound sample of untreated representative waste. Yeah, just dump so much cannabis. Of solid waste. And then you look and see how much organics is in there. Yeah.

That would be a classic waste characterization.

Right, so. Like what's in the box. Yeah, I don't see how that's even possible. not laughably saying that it's a representative sample of what goes through that. They had.

Well, if you do enough of those, you get, it's like a poll. Like if I pull a hundred people, if you like A or B, if I do tons of cards over time, you can start to paint a picture about how much contamination, how much, how much organic waste is being missed by, by roadside pickups. If I pull a couple of cans in Tarrant Park, a couple of cans in Aldo Hills, a couple of cans in Placerville, you can start to get a feel of regionalism. participation in regionalism and a certain amount of gas. That's why they do the dirty work and sort it out. These are waste characterizations that are super useful. These are one of our best tools. And we can also see if there's inert recycling there, how many bottles are in there, how many cans, which cardboard in there, if we're missing something. That's one of my favorite, they're one of my favorite tools that the haulers can use is just dump a can on the ground and figure it out.

What's in there? Yeah.

Because that was showing like from the first quarter of 2026, the amount of organic contamination in the non-processed solid waste, in which case we have anywhere from 95 to 100,000 tons a year. It was showing that the amount of organic contamination in municipal solid waste based on that 1383 sampling. I don't know what the trend was, but it was It was a 0.77% of contamination of organics and, and, and we sort of, and it was, it was 4.3% in South Lake Tahoe. That shows that there's like 0.77%. Either it's really not representative of anything or doing a pretty good job of putting the stuff where it belongs. It doesn't follow. People are really digging into this. I think people are doing a pretty good job with sorting, for the most part. A lot of residential participation, people are getting it.

Now, if EDD wants to really start cracking those numbers and say, OK, all paper, all compostable paper needs to be involved and stuff like that, they can probably pop that number up. I think right now they're looking at intrusible food waste. potential compostable materials that's so that's kind of like where we're starting we're starting with salad weeds and then we move to a chicken bone and then we move to your cleanings and like your paper towels and then we move to like packaging materials and stuff it's kind of this phased rollout where everybody starts realizing that you can throw more things in the organic room That's kind of like the next phase of Julie's work. There's still a couple years where I'm going to be talking about food waste going to the bin. We're going to be talking about paper. So that's kind of how we structured it. We'll start with the dinky, easy stuff, figure that out, and we start moving on to where the barb bands come in. Because there's higher potential. Ironically, there's a higher potential of contamination. Chicken is chicken. If it's cooked, if it's seasoned, if it's brined, if it's raw, it's an organic waste. The paper starts getting weird. So it's getting fuzzy. And some people don't take it like full circle top. They don't want paper in there. They want pure food waste. So we have to adjust to the industry, the actual recyclers and, and develop an organic waste stream that is, can be used as a product. And so I'm asking everyone to dump every piece of compostable paper. So that can get, be very catastrophic. So we're going to phase that in over time. But I think right now, Elderly Disposal is looking at, they're looking at patricians.

And I can see myself as an iron.

It's obvious. People are tourists, restaurants.

And if I could just chime in on that, we also were required to count food waste. um even though we have the high elevation waiver covering our entire service area so all of our residents for the most part put their food waste in the trash they're supposed to but we still have to count that in our audits yeah all right um anything else anybody else all right so no action on that those things discussed

or Sarah. Okay, that's the end of the discussion item. Committee member announcements and comments. Any committee member have any announcements or comments that they'd like to make?

I won't be here for the next meeting. I'll be in Italy. Wow. Good for you.

Good for you.

It's time to do that. Go.

You can come real quickly.

Oh, man. Any time.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay, then, what will happen you guys want to prove anyway. HAB-Terry Palmos- We have.

HAB-Terry Palmos- Okay, any other committee announcements still on the D to member fyi and the board is posted it's it's on their website, it says he to. HAB-Masyn Moyer- or turn to George. HAB-Terry Palmos- South county just a single spring scam bargain something. Like you said, my wife, we live in Georgia's district, but we don't have anybody to watch for sun. Unless you want to run around and scream in a corner, then that's not going to happen. It's just kind of a conflict of interest. Okay, that's it for committee announcements. Again, we lost a lot of people, but we still got a forum today, even without all of them. So what a win. Staff announcements. I'm not going to I'll say this on Julie's behalf. She's going to go out in September. She'll be out again in September. She'll be back early next year. Congratulations to her. Staff is very stable right now for the most part, which we want to keep. So we'll just keep going on. Hopefully that staff report gives more insights. Next meeting is... Same thing, September 14th. This one's weird because it sneaks up on you a little bit faster. And we did that by intention. So we didn't want to drag it into October. But again, it's all proprietary. It's all. So if we like meet next time, we're like, this was too soon. Like, let's move it to October. We can do that because we have the flexibility with our bylaws. So we can meet whenever. So we chose this date at the beginning of the year because we wanted a date. We needed to make a last minute change to get in before the board. You know, ironically, Doug's presentation is the next day. It's just annual. It's just like his, his kind of boilerplate one that Dina did, Tim Israel did. So his presentation is the next day. So we can, I'll put that on the agenda and we can refine it.

Okay. Are we encouraging, we used to encourage him to have it on the South by talking to him. We did.

We did. But we did. You know, logistically, it doesn't, It's not great. We've always had connectivity issues. We've always had, not to be rude, but poor participation. Yeah. If we want to do a Heavenly again, you know, and go get sandwiches and get gondola to the top, I think, you know, meeting up there. That's freaking awesome. But meeting at the community building in South Lake Charles. It was like full of first class on the front and We can always shift it around. And tours are always available. Sorry I missed that tour in my family. But that sounds like a great tour. So we'll keep doing that stuff and we'll always include EdSwag in tour opportunities. Like this more freestyle thing where we do whatever.

We'll get a little more newbies. Yeah, sorry about that.

All right, Doug, is there anything else? Last call on anything? Now? All right. Doug, can you turn off here? Okay.

Doug's not here. But John could.

Oh, Don. Sorry. They will conclude the meeting at 1120. Wow. Excellent. And we'll bank that time for another time.

All right. Thanks, everyone.

All right.

Thank you. Thank you. Oh, no. Dang it. I didn't do the dang subtitles. Haley's gonna kill me. Oh, no. Show captions. No, I didn't do it.

Oh, well.

All right.