Planning Commission - workshop

March 12th, 2016, we're going to call out the Interior County Planning Commission to order for a work session. At this time, we're going to open up a session, call to order. We'll have the guest speaker. Old business, final review of land development application for telecommunication tower located off Loop Bridge Road, Highway 191. This land development application was originally heard by the Planning Commission on our last meeting on February 12th, 2026 for preliminary approval, so

Yes, sir. This is the 315-foot guide tower that was presented to you last month on the 12th off of Luke Bridge and 191. The checklist that was sent to you, that's the first time I sent it to you. Are y'all good with that? If you actually need to see the documentation, the files are just too big for me to send to you. I have them, and I have them tabbed. need to see them. And F and J that I marked as not submitted, he has submitted them now to us. So we have the FCC license, and we also have the, on the site plans, it actually does show that there will be a screening around the base as we require in our ordinances.

Okay.

Y'all have any questions about this one?

You got anything to do with it? Anybody have anything on it? I'm good on it. No further on that. We'll go to new business then. Our new business is a wide-town road, a land development application for a proposed telecommunication facility, which will be 265 feet. Guy Tyler, located on Montana Road on Pasha 055 0000 042 0000. Free bird communication is applied for a wish to a constructed new tile to support a variety of wireless coverage objects. So we have anybody here representing them? Come forward and state your name and what's your proposition over here.

Good afternoon. My name is Greg Spence. I am here representing Freeburg Communications and Verizon Wireless, building out additional wireless infrastructure in Edgefield County. I think the application as it stands meets, we're not requesting any variances. It is a 265-foot tower with a 10-foot lightning rod, and it is a guide structure. capable of holding four additional tenants as per the code. We do have landscaping plan already in the construction drawings that we've submitted. The federal registration and FAA are also complete and should be part of that package as well. So if I can answer any questions you might have, I'm happy to do so.

Now, this tower will be owned by? Absolutely.

The tower owner will be Freebird.

Freebird. And they're going to lease it to Verizon?

They'll lease it to Verizon.

And will there be available other?

There will be room for three other carriers in addition to Verizon on the tower. That is part of the original tower design. That'll be able to hold additional equipment. Most of the carriers these days do Verizon specifically. Now, for the most part, farm out there. They used to build and lease all of the land space themselves and build the towers, but they've pretty much farmed it out to other tower companies to do so these days.

So are you leasing the land, or are you buying it?

The land is also leased.

And leased, too? OK, all right.

And the fall zone radius, if anything catastrophic did happen to the tower, these towers are not built to fall like trees. And with the guide tower, especially, they spiral down. on themselves, and with this, the fall zone radius is about 130 feet, I believe, which would keep it inside the parcel, the boundaries of the parent tract.

Any questions, comments?

I don't have any questions. I feel like the information we were given was thorough and answered all the questions. I don't have any questions.

That circle indicates the 130 foot.

As long as y'all good with the light.

As long as y'all happy with the lights. Yeah, from a lighting perspective, it'll be dual medium. So it'll be white during the day, and it'll be red at red strobe due to height. It's a federal requirement. But otherwise, the tower itself isn't going to emit any noise. The carriers, once there's multiple carriers there, they will visit the site about once a month just to perform standard maintenance on their equipment.

How far off Martintown is that tower? Sorry? Proximity to Martintown, how far is that?

That is west. I can get you a calculation on the mileage of it. No, no, no, no. The tower to Martintown. To the road? To the road. I've got that.

200 feet and two inches.

That's to the parcel line right of way. So it's a little bit further to the physical road.

I don't have it. I don't have any. Tower to tower.

Yes, sir. And it is the minimum height for which Verizon's engineers have determined that it has to be for the criteria of being able to build in this location. So where the search ring meets the heights that are needed. This is going to really bolster coverage towards the west and sort of northwest corridor as well. Most of Verizon's existing coverage is to the south and east. This is really providing needed coverage.

Verizon's got plans of going on the one that they're building at Luke Fork?

I can't, I don't know that for a fact. We are generally hired within a given ring. Most of the tower companies, like I think Harmony Towers had the application that was popped up earlier. They're another bill of pursuit vendor for Verizon, but they all communicate directly as far as per the ordinance and per Verizon's wants, they will co-locate, they far prefer to co-locate. So if there's another structure that's available for them to do so, that's what they seek. They don't want to have to, which is another reason they've given it to the bill to sue companies. They're no longer on the hook for the upfront monies that it takes to build these. The steel and the time and effort goes into it. They're very expensive to build these days. So the carriers would just prefer to be a tenant on the structure. I was just curious who they're putting one less than 10 miles from that one. The service area for a tower is anywhere between about three and five miles, given the topography. So that would probably be a future site, but that would not be able to cover this specific search area.

If you want to see the coverage, this is before, after.

And I do know when you're driving down Martintown, because I have Verizon, your calls will drop. It's all really spotty. Yeah, and a lot of people complain about that.

It's going to fix that problem.

It's going to cut down on the distance. You know, the technology cut down on the distance of the towers from what it used to be. We have long range. We've got a problem with radio and everything now because I don't know. digital or something about it. It doesn't have the range that we had before.

It's the amount that people are utilizing the technology. It is a technology itself and the frequency, the frequencies that they utilize now. It takes a lot more power and it doesn't go as far as the coverage areas. So they ultimately ended up having a need for more towers than less towers. There's more reason for people to move out there.

We had good 40-mile range on time back. You know, we're talking about 30 years ago, but technology came in, slowed down on the frequency.

I started in paging in 1996, back when the last, don't, it is a little funny, I'm old, but they, I was in Boston doing, for Conexus Communications that was headquartered out of Greenville. And it didn't make it very far before cell phones wiped out all the rest of the paging. OK. Any more questions, comments? No problem.

Thank you. OK. Next, we're going to a greenhouse asphalt plant land development application proposing the development of an asphalt plant to be located off Greenhouse Road and Edgefield Road in Trenton. Parking 174, double out, double out, 071, triple out, and 072, triple out, and 040, triple out. And I think we have met with them before on this, so they're here to bring us up to date where we are right now.

So you've already, of course, you know some about it because of the rezoning, but this is their preliminary for the actual... site plan you know the site plan itself so y'all have a copy of the preliminary site plan i have a copy on the screen behind me okay so they're here so yeah with the fnf representative yes okay you brings up the date on what we got now can you just state your name for the record

My name's Fleetwood Hassell with Davidson Floyd Engineering. I'm an engineer representing Satterfield Construction for the non-permanent of this asphalt plant. So what you see today is our preliminary site plan. We have gone through a preliminary site application with DOT as well. And we have submitted an air permit application. Part of the air permitting is figuring out preliminary modeling where we can site the plant on the site itself to make sure we have sufficient setback from the buffers so we're not polluting anything. How are y'all planning on fueling this one?

Are we fueling it?

Natural gas? Y'all already spoke with Dominion on it? Welcome to Dominion. Natural gas?

On your tab for the gas. Dominion on that gas?

That's one of the biggest ones. This is a relocation of a plant that does not have natural gas.

It does have natural gas availability.

Burns cleaner, a whole lot cleaner than diesel fuel.

Question?

I know there had been some concerns last time with the visual from the road, what people are going to see when they pass by, congestion, pollutants. because we've got nurseries nearby. And I just wanted you to speak on that so everybody can hear.

So, on the site plan, very tough to see, but we have implemented a 75-foot buffer. And so, basically, on Highway 25, we're going to have two driveways. On the left side, bottom left will be exit only. And on the bottom right, you will see we have a deceleration lane. And so the plan would be for trucks, as they come from the quarry over Martin Marietta, do an all right turn, come down Greenhouse. They'd come in off Greenhouse. The north side is that bypass lane. So they're not going to the loadout. It's going to be aggregate truck coming in. They come to the lay down yard where they can dump their load of aggregate, come back through, load out if they need to, and then hit an exit only on Highway 25. So all right turns, trying to avoid any traffic, any buildup in front of Sarah's stand as well. On the front side, that's all you're really going to see. It's already currently undeveloped ponds, and we'll keep it that way because we can do a visual buffer. It'll protect any future emissions as well and try to just screen anything from the public.

What about noise?

Noise? An asphalt plant itself is actually very quiet overall. If it's making noise, it's probably broken. The biggest noise factor is going to be a truck. It's going to be slamming its tailgate. Nobody likes that. They don't like it. We don't like it. Neighbors don't like it. If an operator doesn't know anything, they're going to get chewed out about it. That's just pretty annoying overall in general. The actual operations of a plant itself, pretty flat.

Doc, you have an actual aerial report for that area? Is that where the old Trenton barbecue used to sit or next to it? It's, hold on a second with me.

No, it's back. It may have been a little further. It's a little further. It's further back. It's ultimately, uh-huh.

that second driveway.

They realigned the greenhouse recently. I think the barbecue place is right there. So it'll be here. Yeah, it's right before.

And that little white dot right there is Sarah's. That's where they farm.

And that's the old barbecue barn down here. Yep. It was down here right here, I think. This is Sarah's.

And so with our meeting with DOT, they asked us to line up our exit driveway. And there is a driveway, not with Sarah's, but a little further down. And they've asked us to line it up with that. That's just how DOT wants to see a driveway-to-driveway connection.

You said line up in front of Sarah's?

It's going to be past Sarah's. Right past Sarah's. OK. Towards the property line? Yes.

And the entrance will only be on Greenhouse?

There will be, on 25, there's going to be an entrance on the south side that has a decel lane, so that'll pull trucks off 25, and they're going to have the ability to slow down and turn into the site, but majority of the trucks will be coming in off Greenhouse.

Okay.

So, on that second entrance, most of their trucks, it's exit only. They're going to make a right turn, like you said that?

That'd be the plan, so they can come through all right-hand turns, more efficient. You're not clogging traffic, clogging traffic on the site. We're waiting on trucks to come out.

Now, pull that building right there next. Let's see. Who's in that building right next?

The lay-down yard for a boring crew right now.

They share it with someone else. Okay, so that property bounds to that, right?

I think that's a metal fab and a lay-down yard for the fiber company.

I was looking at that. I was trying to see if it was in the activity down there when I went by.

MPW LLC.

Now, they don't ask you to do in a quarter on that property. Everybody in the hall in, right?

Yes.

Okay. I know what you mean. Right. Okay.

But MPW is not actually bordering the developed area. There's a bigger buffer off. This is the developed area. Yeah.

Okay. All right.

One of the close neighbors, they're not adjoining the property, but they had sent me a text wanting me to ask about the smell and the smoke and noise. You've already addressed that. So if you could address the smell and the smoke. So, if I may.

It's basically a fume condenser. And so what it does is the gases come up from it. It turns it into liquid, condenses them into liquid, and they fall back down in the tank. So your gases aren't emitted as hot, and basically your smells are condensed closer to the tank. That's the smell itself. I always think you said as well, slamming the tailgate is going to be the biggest. I'm going to try to mitigate that.

And she had mentioned smoke in it.

I've never seen smoke coming from it, really.

I don't have anything else on there.

I think it'll be a plus, really.

When the trucks pull in to unload like a rock, are they using just straight dumping, or are they using that vibrator on the truck? That's going to be a question. That's where the noise is going to be coming from, is that vibrator.

You were at Shatterfield? Okay. What the average truck y'all pull out per day by loads?

If you're going to speak, please come to the podium so we can actually get it on recording.

My name is John Henderson. I'm with Shatterfield Construction. Currently, we're relocating the plant from Eureka to this location. The trucks are hauling from the same rock quarry now. So really, we're not adding any traffic to the area because those trucks are already, we're just relocating the plant. So those same amount of trucks are going through that intersection there. How tall? At 25 already today, which averaged about 50 to 60 trucks a day.

Okay, I'm looking at the outgoing asphalt. That's about 50 to 60 trucks a day. Yes, sir. Okay.

I guess my guess is it should not increase. What is that now?

I know DOT asphalt is below like 32 or something like that, but what about standard asphalt? Is there a temperature range on it too?

So most of the asphalt plant operates off of air, which if we have any condensation lines, so usually that's pretty standard, I mean 32. Six or seven is about the coldest we can crank over us at work.

It's about 37 Yes, it's not that that would change even from private work Okay from that plant you pulls to whatever you cover with that plant there you you know a lot with you got a plant of Greenwood too, right?

Yes, sir.

And they've got one at Jackson too. Is that correct? Okay So you know a lot with them?

On average, about 30 miles, give or take, depending on which direction we go. Obviously, not 30 miles to Augusta, because it's not even 30 miles to other plants, but towards Greenwood, it may be 40 miles, just depending on the direction we go, but on average, about 30 miles, about as far as we go. How tall are you? That's the liquid tanks, but the silos are 102 feet. Silo from the Dolls Park.

100 feet tall.

Talking from the screening on the front, basically, you'll see all pine trees. You might see a little bit of silo and an American flag on top.

Daniel? Appreciate it.

Thank you all.

That's all I have. You have anything else, doctor? You have anything? All out of things for you. Okay, well, we'll do. That should take care of the wait session then. No questions, comments? We'll adjourn until 6 o'clock for our regular meeting. Appreciate it. At this time, we're going to say good evening to everyone this year. We're going to have a meeting to order for March 12, 2006, for the Avery County Planning Commission. At this time, we have an order. I have an invitation by our assistant.

Let us pray. Heavenly Father, thank you for letting us come together in your presence. beautiful world today. Lord, thank you for protecting us from the storms that came and passed. Lord, we also lift up the two situations with the school and the synagogue today. Be with those that were injured and those that have endured trauma through that. Lord, I pray that you'll go with us through this meeting and I pray that you'll give us a good night tonight. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

I will stand and face the flag for the American Legion. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Seated. At this time, I will need a motion for approval of our Mark 12, meeting agenda that we have before us.

So moved. Second.

Move and second. All in favor of the right hand? Opposed? Ayes have it. A motion to approval of February 12, 2026, work session, minutes meeting.

Second.

Motion to second. All in favor of the right hand? Opposed? Ayes have it. Approval of February 12, 2026, meeting minutes.

Second.

All in favor, right hand. Second. Report, staff report.

February flat reviews, we had three flat reviews. Exempt subdivision was one. Minor subdivision were three. Okay. Do you have any questions about the census report that we gave you?

Our minds clear? So we'll accept that information. All righty. At this time, we don't have any guest speakers. We'll go to a public hearing. At this time, we have two public hearings before us. And the public hearing is, if you have signed up, you should be signed up for this. And We ask you to speak a maximum of five minutes and to remain on the subject that we have at hand at that time. If you come up to the address and state your name and then address this. A land development application for a proposed Como Tower facility that's going to be 265 feet, guide tower that's going to locate on Martin Town Road with particle ID 0-5-5-0-0-0-0-4-2-triple-0. Freebird Communications is applying for this tile and wishes to construct a new tile to support for a rising wireless coverage. Objective on this one. Do we have any?

Bud Service.

Bud Service. Bud Service, is that a name? Come up here. Okay.

See many buds, do you?

I've seen quite a few in my lifetime. Go ahead. What was your last name? How you pronounce it? Sarvis. Sarvis. OK.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, committee members. I am going to pass out just a few things here. My wife and I, who's sitting in the crowd with me, she's the much better half of our marriage, live just to the north of where this cell tower is going. The property is owned by her aunt. I call her my aunt because she is my aunt, Ms. Gladys. And we've lived here for about 15 years, so we have a very nice home. And I'm very much in opposition of this cell tower going here. Like everybody else in here, I got a cell phone. I use it. I provide for my family with it. It is much needed in my daily life. I actually have two of them. And so I use them all the time.

Can I ask you a few questions? That topo mat that you had at the .

A couple of concerns, a health concern. I think this probably comes up at every cell phone tower meeting is health concerns of a cell phone tower itself. Does the radiation that's put off by it, is there any health concerns for the general public, those who live close by to it, or not? I'm sure the gentleman who is in charge of putting the cell phone tower up would probably point to studies that do not show any adverse effect to adults or children for cell phone towers. But you can find thousands that do. So, do they or don't they? I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I can't tell you. But what I can tell you is that I've had enough folks in my family who have died from cancer. My grandma died from cancer at . And I don't want no part of that for my family. Okay? And I'm sure many of y'all can relate to that. Would it be just fine? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. As I was sitting there a few minutes ago, I was just Googling things, come across this study. It said 1,800 studies recommend that cell phone towers be at least 1,500 feet away from schools to limit RF radiation because they've been shown to create and cause rare cancers, brain tumors, and neurological and development problems on children. 1,500 feet, okay? That's 1,500 feet from a school, okay? That makes a lot of sense, protect those children. There's a lot of kids that go to elementary and middle school and high schools in Edgefield County, right? And protecting them should be a priority. What about the three at my house? Because I'm within 1,500 feet. I'm about 500 feet. I'm well within the circle of danger of this thing. I'm not going to really focus on that because I don't know enough about it.

It's not going to. That's okay. And if I turn it off, it's going to reset everything. That's okay.

Property values. I told you I have a very nice home. Several years ago, Edgefield County was working on a countywide plan to zone the entire county, right? There was a page in there that talked about fencing. Somebody with the county came by my house and took a picture of my house and said, this is the example for what we want fencing to look like. They used my house, okay? Now, when I put a cell phone tower up, is it going to affect my property? Well, You look online for that. You do some research on it. And in general, you'll see research that says anywhere from 2% to 20%. I could probably sell my home for $1 million. Now, if I lose 20%, then I lost $200,000 the day that tower goes up. Now, who pays for that? I got to eat that? Does the landowner eat it? Does Freebird eat it? I'm going to eat it. Is that right? No, it ain't right. I've worked for the federal government for about 16 years. I have appraised hundreds of thousands, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of properties. I can tell you without a doubt, when that sale tower goes up, my property value is going down. I've done hundreds and hundreds of appraisals myself. It will 1,000% hurt me. 94% of buyers say that they would avoid or pay less for such properties that were located next to a sale tower. 94% of buyers. That shrinks my buyer pool down considerably if I have to sell my house. And when that sale tower goes up, I will sell my house, 100%. Edgefield County rules for putting up sale towers, you may have those handy. I did. The very first rule says, that the sale tower should be located as such as it does not affect the adverse or aesthetic or visual impacts of a property. This sale tower does not meet the first rule, the very first rule on that list. We're at five minutes. I'm up. I'm up. Thank you.

Thank you. I think that's the only one. That's the only one we have for comments on this one anymore. Tonight we go to item B, greenhouse road asphalt plant, land development application proposing the development of an asphalt plant to be located off Greenhouse Road in Edfield wrote on particle 174, double out, double out, 071 and 072 and 040. Let's see. We don't have any. No. OK. That being said, that will close out our public hearing. Now we have a public comment session here. I notice here. Now, on this public comment session, I think that related to any item that we're discussing here tonight. Am I correct? If anyone have any comments on any item that we're discussing tonight, we'll leave space open for that. That you're limited to five minutes. Anyone? Public comment from anyone on any? Do you have the other?

There should have been two. There's nothing. No. They marked through it.

All right.

And then the other one doesn't have anything.

Would that be? Would you mind if I had a few minutes to finish? I'm sorry.

Thanks. Rule number one, telecommunication facilities should be located so as to minimize adverse aesthetic and visual impacts on land, property, buildings, other facilities where wireless communication devices are considered. That's rule number one. Okay. Adverse. How do y'all gauge that? Y'all are the committee. I'm not. Y'all have to have some sort of quantitative value for that. So, what's adverse and what's not? Well, I tell you, if you want to gauge adverse, gauge it by money. Is it going to hurt the property around it? Absolutely. I just told you, 20 percent. I'm going to lose it. It doesn't meet the very first criteria. Second one, aesthetic. Multiple blinking lights. There's white ones. There's red ones. They blink 24 hours a day. This thing's 500 feet away from my house. I got to look at it every day, all day. Aesthetically, It hurts me. It's ugly to me. I've heard it say that a tower is a tower. I disagree. When that tower is in your front yard, it ain't just a tower no more. Visual impacts. You asked about how far it is off the road. 200 feet. That's awful doggone close. When you look at that design, what a wedge that sucker in there. Awful tight. It's right up against me. It's right up against my Uncle Harry. It's right up against Martintown Road. There's feet. On some sides, less than two feet. Okay? The fall zone is 23 inches. from the joining property line. Is it in there? Yeah, it fits. But doggone, it's awful doggone convenient how tight they got that sucker in there. It doesn't meet the adverse aesthetic or visual impacts. Now, I'm not asking you to deny it. I'm asking you to move it. I love my Aunt Gladys enough that if she wants it, let her have it. But I don't want it in my front yard. My Aunt Gladys lives just up the street on Martintown Road. 2,000 feet on the other side of the road. She's got a perfect spot behind her house. That's 50 feet higher in elevation on a hill. 50 feet higher. Now this thing's what, 200 and how tall? Cut 50 feet off right there. Is that how it works? That would put it over 1,000 feet from the road. That's five times as far off Martintown Road. To me, it meets all the criteria then. It's not adverse to me. It's not really affecting me. It's out of sight, out of mind. It's just another tower to me at that point. Aesthetically, I can't even see it. It's 1,000 feet off the road. In visual impacts, I don't see that blinking light from my house. I'm not asking you to deny it. I'm asking you to move it. That's what you want to do. But don't put it in my front yard. And I'm going to ask you all to put some numbers on this, these rules, some setbacks. So many feet from schools, so many feet from homes. I told you I live just to the north of there. This tower is going about 500 feet from my house. I got three children, and I pray one of them wants to live right beside me one day, and I'd have to put them in between me and that tower. It's like 200 feet. Who wants to live 200 feet from I moved out in the country. I moved here from Horry County. I moved here to get away from this stuff. And I know it's everywhere, but it ain't got to be 200 feet from the road. It ain't got to be 23 inches from property line. It ain't got to be that. Put some rules around it.

Okay, you got five minutes. Thank you, sir. I notice here we're having a comment on loot. There's a tower on Loop Bridge Road that we discussed last week. We're going to old business. Our old business is tonight we're going to vote and discuss regarding the final approval for the land development application for the telecommunication tower located off Loop Bridge Road and Highway 191. This land development application, we heard that on our last planning commission meeting on February the 12th for the preliminary approval So tonight we will vote on the final approval. I'll get a motion, entertain a motion for approval for that.

Second.

Motion and second. End of discussion on the approval of this tower. That's 191 Bridge Road. If not, all in favor of approval, final approval for this tower, raise your right hand. Holders, I have it. New business. Our new business, we're going to vote and discuss regarding the recommendation to approve the preliminary platform for the pole tower that's going to be located at Martin Town Road, 265-foot tower that we just discussed. Island properties, 055-0000-042-RRR. This time we're going to... I have a motion to entertain for the preliminary on this.

I had a question before we vote.

I want to get the motion.

Y'all make a motion to approve and second it and then go into discussion.

You made the motion.

Second. Second. Okay. Discussion. Any discussion?

I want to ask him a question. Mr. Spence. As far as the lights, what deters them from shining down?

into homes so for the discussion or for the purposes of the discussion let's call them a ground dampener for the lighting just for ease of maintaining they can there are items that they can put that are so the strobes are for aviation that's what it's for it's to make sure that they're well visible during the day and night for any aviation in the area What can be done is that there is sort of dampeners that they will put underneath. So if the light is, the top of the light will be here and they're flared out so that it doesn't go towards the ground. The illumination of the lights will still be visible up but not down towards the surrounding properties. So I've spoken to the developer. He's committed to making sure that we've got that in each of the lighting positions. throughout the time the tower will be built. So just like the coverage for cell phones is parallel to the ground, the phones talk up to the signal, and that's basically what the lighting does as well, is it is going out and up for aviation protection.

Now what are you saying about, I know it's up at the Gladys on the other plot, Could she possibly move it if she wanted to?

It's not as simple as being able to move it from one parcel to another parcel.

That's what I'm talking about, before it gets into 2D.

I don't know that parcel. I don't know the distance. I know we were given a specific search area, and this particular parcel is within that search area. I do not know if it would be within that search area. The elevation differences as well, that's typically determined by the RF engineers, which in this location, the minimum height that they can achieve the coverage that's needed is 260 feet is the RAD center. It's a 265 tower with a 10-foot lightning rod for a total height of 275. So that's what the engineers. So that's all based on topography and geography of where that tower is located.

I think I have kind of the same question as you did. Do you know if there's been any discussion with the property owner? Have y'all looked at that to see that the alternative site is a viable option?

Again, if that, if you say it's 2,000 feet or so away, that is, we're probably a quarter mile on the search area that it's got to fit in that ring. I'd have to, I just, I don't know. I don't know the particulars of it off the cuff. what size that is. This is a six acre lot. We meet the criteria of the ordinance. There's no variances being requested and so forth. So to just shift based on it's going to be in somebody's new shed. That's why we presented the photo simulations. That's why we go through all the engineering and the reviews by staff to make sure that it is going to be an improvement for the community. It's not going to be invisible. It's a tower, and it's going to be a lit tower. So due respect to being able to move it, moving it to another location is going to potentially have adverse effect for potentially being more people. I don't know what the residents will outweigh.

Are there any other residences on the other site that was mentioned by the speaker?

Do we know? Respectfully, I do not know of that property.

The only person you got across from is Wesley.

He's the next closer. The current location, yes, is we're only across the street from his property. And there is a landscape buffer that is going to hide all the base station equipment and everything else that's there. And it's initially being built for Verizon. If the other carriers come in, of course, there will be a little more foot traffic, but it's just typically once a month for tech goes out and maintains it.

I just, I still have a question about the location of the tower. Do you know, did they consider alternative places, like here's our general area, And here are alternative places we could place the tower. I mean, I'm just wondering, did they consider that? Do we know?

So they give us a ring, and from a sign acquisition, which is the profession that goes out and locates properties, they look for, they're given a ring diameter, and then they go out and they search for properties for willing participants, willing landowners, which Ms. Gladys was, as far as being able to find properties that meet the setbacks, they meet the ordinance and the code and so forth. So as it pertains to this particular search ring, once a candidate or multiple candidates are identified, those are given back to the engineers at the carrier, and then the engineer decides on which one fits which location that's provided that's best for the system and at what height they determine the height at that point, which this again is 260 feet is the

So could we explore other parcels that might suit better and still have the tower that's needed but in a better location?

Not without starting over and not without I think your I think the greater good to the community is that there's one person that potentially is negatively affected by the placement of this tower. I think if you move this location or you attempt to move it, it's going to potentially bring others into it. I don't think that there's ever a situation that someone's not going to be affected by the placement of a tower. That's just the nature of it.

So just as a comment, you all remember that this is not the final approval for this project. It's preliminary. So if you have a specific question that you want answered, you can direct that to him, and then we will send it to him, and they can submit that as part of their final if that's what you want. So if you have something specific that you want them to look at, now is the time to ask them, because this is the preliminary, so the whole point of this is to direct questions that he may not even have an answer to.

I don't know that this is necessarily a question, but a request, possibly. I don't know if that's possible. If we could approach the property owner, because my understanding is the property owner is the same for what you have applied for and then the alternate site presented by the services. Is it the same property owner? Could we?

The only thing I would say on that is, I mean, you can request it, but you can't demand it because the property owner may own 100 properties in Edgeco County, but that's not actually the site that was studied and looked at for this. So that would be voluntary on their part. We as the county cannot demand that they do that. I'd like to see that ring.

And I think my request was if we can approach and ask if that was a viable option, would she consider an alternate site?

I agree with you.

I would like that question answered before we.

Somebody would have to give me the property information so that we can look at it. I don't have that information readily available. And if you have it and you can pull it up, you can probably see what the residential is set around it as well.

One question. Yes, sir. The tile are approved, the site are approved by FCC, right?

By the FCC.

And the FAA. And the FAA, okay. I know I haven't been involved in that before.

So you have to go.

After the study, it goes to them and they approve the final point, right? Correct. Okay.

That's the two properties, if y'all are wondering. That's her big property, and that's the separate.

So, one more time now?

What was that? Say that again? Let's not have conversation between them.

We can't. We're getting out of order.

We can't record that.

We're getting out of order.

Now, if he can make statements and submit it before, you know, to us.

Right, and we can look at it, right.

As part of your packet for the final.

So, right now, we got all these comments and all, and we have it on here for them there. We had a discussion on it. All in favor of approving the preliminary plaque?

I know you're by the right hand. Yeah, I mean, are we going to approve it on condition of another, you know, more information about an alternative site?

See, this is not the final.

I understand it's not final, but... Doc said we could put a request in for that information to get it before final.

So what I would recommend is that questions that you want answered for the final, you request it of him to bring to the final. But for the preliminary, you need to just go down what we require for preliminary and make your decision based off that.

And they meet all those conditions, right?

do but you can still make any requests that you want and and we will work with them to get you an answer to those questions before they come back to the Planning Commission for an actual final approval so we would I could make a motion that we request that

an alternative site as suggested.

You can just have it on the record during the discussion if you want to. I don't think you really need to vote since we're not actually approving the development. So I think it would be fine for you to just on the record ask for any documents or information that you want. And then I'll get her to reach out to them after tomorrow and request the info.

Can you just state each one of you, each request that we need to ask them? That way we have it for the record, and I can send you those.

He's got mine written down, which was just the ring radius.

Then the other was the alternate site.

Any more?

Just the parcel ID of that, if you could get that. We'll send it to you.

Okay.

All in favor of the motion on the floor to approve? Right hand. Opposed?

I just want to be sure that we're going to get the requested information before final.

Opposers? Any opposers? Okay, so.

Okay, so I was, I'm sorry. I completely missed that. If you're in favor, raise your hand again so that we can see it. Okay, so that's everybody.

Okay, I appreciate it. All right, let's see here.

And the date of the phone call.

You'll have to get with her because she said on the agenda when to be right. OK, I think this is it. Oh, I'm sorry, the greenhouse. I'm going to just leave you out. Vote in discussion regarding the recommendation to approve the preliminary platform. The proposed development of an asphalt plant will be located off Green High Road and Edgefield Road, pocket 174, double out 071, 072, and 040. A motion for the preliminary approval. I'd like a motion on the floor for that. Second. Second.

Discussion. Any discussion on it?

Any problem in the discussions? If not, all in favor of approving the preliminary on this, raise your right hand. Hold it. Eyes have it. So you'll go ahead and lay them on the final.

I'd like to make a comment on that one. Asphalt plants are highly regulated by DES. So depending on how quickly they go through the DES process, you may or may not see that in a month. It might take them more than a month. So if they get everything, they'll be here. But if it takes more than a month, we'll let you know. in between because there's a lot of stuff that they have to get before their final.

Okay.

That's all I have to say.

All right. I have a motion to adjourn.

Second.

Motion to second. Meeting adjourned.