Planning Board - Regular Meeting

This house that we're buying is three and a half bathrooms. And I I told them all I was like, I will do our bathroom and I will do the half bath. that you guys are responsible for cleaning two bathrooms. I'm not cleaning four bathrooms myself. It's not helping.

Okay. Uh welcome to the March 4th, 2026 uh town of Durham main planning board meeting. Um roll call. We have um Mr. Stikney, Miss Keplinger, Mr. Pington, and myself. So we have a quorum. Um, any requests for the song?

Then we'll just go with the pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Um, acceptance of meeting minutes from February 4th. Any comments on those meeting minutes? comment is that they were extremely thorough which I greatly appreciate agree very very much so agree

agreed I would move to uh accept them as presented a second

second through my notes here. Okay. All in favor? Great. Informationational exchange on non Oh, I'm sorry. I missed three amendments to the agenda. Sorry about that. Um, any amendments to tonight's agenda?

I don't have any. Um, the only one I have is under continuing business B. Um, I I um move to strike that um because we haven't received any new information on the subdivision. So therefore, I don't see any need to have any further discussion on that. And that's all I have as an amendment. I'd like to second that. Okay. In favor?

Okay. Thank you. Okay. Back to informationational exchange on non-aggenda items.

Mr. I did include my monthly report uh that goes to the town manager and the select board and it includes an update on your last meeting. Uh and then it also includes the update on the codification which are going to be discussing tonight I believe the draft and then I also updated them on the um agriculture committee. They've gone to the select board. Basically, they've agreed to hold off on trying to get amendments on definitions recognizing that you can't just change the definitions. You need to deal with the standards that go along with those definitions. So, they've uh agreed to work on that through a public process over the next over the coming year like you've done on various initiatives. And uh what they are doing is going in the interim for a u an amendment to the fee schedule for uh what they call high wind tunnels and temporary green houses which are treated basically as commercial structures that uh have pretty hefty uh building permit fees. So they're looking for the select board to do some relief on that in terms of helping agriculture as kind of an interim step. Uh and we did get the grant for the uh economic development study. The uh town manager has uh signed a contract with the state. Uh we've not yet received the money, but Greater Portland uh Council of Governments will be kind of leading uh that project like they're doing the open space plan. So that'll be kicking off probably after town meeting. Um and that is what I had in my report and I'm happy to answer any questions. I'm all set.

Thank you. So, you're saying after town meeting is when they might establish the economic development? Yeah, I think the select board just has so much going on right now with the uh the budget, the uh solid waste turnover. There's just an awful lot of issues that are on their plate right now. So, I'm thinking probably town manager and I talked today about possibly looking realistically to get that thing rolling right after the town meeting.

Okay. Um, are there any residents here that would like to comment on the information exchange on non-aggenda items? Any non-residents here that would like to discuss this? Okay. All right. We'll move on. Next, uh, continuing business, public hearing on a preliminary plan application for Durham Heights subdivision, 439 meeting, Quaker meeting house road, map 2, lot 60. Um I have a sorry I don't know this by heart yet but it's a prepared script for all public meetings. Um so we all set to open the public hearing on this.

Yeah. Yes.

Okay. Uh I will now open the public hearing for the u application. Durham height subdivision. Uh StoneX Construction LLC um Sightelines engineering is the owner's rep. The project is located on uh Quaker Meeting House Road. Uh the purpose of this public hearing is to receive oral and written testimony relevant to the board's review of this application under the town's adopted ordinances and standards. This hearing is not a forum to debate broader town policies or growth man management issues which are established by town meeting must be applied by the planning board. The board's authority is limited to determining whether the application meets or fails the adopted subdivision standards. Uh before we be begin um I'll review the procedures and ground rules for the public hearing. Under the planning board's bylaws, the chair is responsible for describing the purpose of the hearing and procedures to be followed. The board may receive oral or documentary documentary evidence but must exclude testimony that is irrelevant or unduly repetitious. Uh the chair will determine the relevance of testimony or evidence presented. Any board member may challenge that determination by motion subject uh to a majority vote of the board. All testimony will be taken in an orderly fashion. Speakers are not asked to interrupt others. The chair may impose reasonable time limits as necessary to ensure that everyone who wishes to speak has an adequate opportunity to be heard. So given the size of the crowd, I'll give everybody about seven minutes. All questions and comments shall be directed to the chair. I will then direct questions to the appropriate party whether that is the applicant, the applicant's consultant, staff or another party for a response. Uh direct questioning of parties by members of the public is not permitted.

All parties will be given the opportunity to present information, submit rebuttal evidence, and conduct crossexamination of other parties through the chair within reasonable limits to prevent an abuse of the process. For the record, an agrieved party is defined in the land use ordinance as a person who can demonstrate particularized injury resulting from the approval or denial of the application. An injury shared equally by all residents of the town does not constitute a particular injur injury. The application materials and staff comments have been made available in advance. The purpose of tonight's hearing is to receive public input on the application itself, not to provide a general explanation of the review process or ordinance requirements. These procedures are necessary to ensure fairness,

protect due process rights for all parties, and allow the board to meet legal deadlines for decision-m. When you get up to uh make a comment, please provide your name and address for the record and please speak clearly. Okay, I'll now open it for public comment. Is anybody here from the public? I'm sure you all that are here know what the plan looks like. Any comments? That's good.

Should I count down to seven minutes or Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. All right. Yeah. All right. We'll give it till um quarter of for public comment. Can I ask a question while we wait? Wait, I I have a clarific question. If no one's here can we just open it and then close it, or do That's what I was asking. Like, should I wait the seven minutes for No. Okay. You said yes. So, no. No. I meant I I I meant the other way around of close. Go ahead and close. I am so sorry.

I didn't ask if we should close. That was Anyway, okay. If someone had something to say, they would say it. Yeah, I guess. Okay. I would I would move that since no one from the public is attending tonight that uh we close the public comments. Okay. Public comment is closed. Can we ask the process question? That Okay. Um, is that part of public comment? No, that wouldn't be public comment. It's not on the subdivision. It your question will not have to do with the subdivision application.

You can just say you're not going to answer it if you don't want to answer it and that's okay. I'm just wondering if you got written public comment, would we know that? And would you make that available to us? We would. It's in It's actually Yeah. Perfect. Absolutely question. There were comments from the one conservation post. I did read that. I didn't know if any residents gave any written testim written comments. Okay. But it would count if we got any. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. No, that's that's happened in the past and we've made that available and and brought that up. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. Of course.

Um Okay. Um so that closes number six continuing business and we will move on to I ask a question related to process. Okay. Uh you had mentioned something email about a 60-day period. Uh you will need to make a decision at the next meeting which is within 30 days of the public hearing. of what decision unless on this subdivision application unless by mutual consent the parties agree to extend that deadline. Okay.

If there's a hopefully the snowtorm's over with, but if there's I mean I assume there's some ability to extend it if we need to. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yeah. So, um great process question. Yes. So, now that we've had the public hearing u meeting um we now have 30 days um it was 60 days from your original application uh 30 days from public comment. Um and if you feel as if you need to extend that, just let us know um before the next meeting.

And the next meeting is scheduled for I believe it's April 1st. Wednesday, April 1st. So the deadline for you all to Anybody? You got it? When is it? Yeah. 25th. So the met the deadline for materials for this application is March 25th. And please let us know as soon as possible if you need to extend or would like to extend the 30-day decision-m process.

Thank you. Good job. Thank you.

Okay, new business. Um I see none on the agenda. Um, any board members? I know we talked about the agenda a minute ago. Any new business anybody else would like to discuss or add to this? I have nothing. No.

Okay. All right. Um, last number eight, other business, planning board discussion on of land use ordinance amendments. Public comment will not be taken. Um so we've already seen um the the with me here we've already seen the minor policy changes the admin policy changes. Um these codification issues were issued during last month's um agenda. So, we've had a couple of months now to review these

um just to um George and I meet um before these meetings just to make sure that um we understand what the agenda is and we're all on the same page there. Um so, to to save some time, um I I I I I did send George an email with some of the items that I uh took issue with say I took issue with, but I thought needed more clarification. Okay.

Um there are a few other things that we can talk about afterward that I don't think need to be um amended or changed as part of the codification. But anyway, those are my comments. You've all have seen the email. I can I will certainly run through those if you'd like. Um, but basically, um, wherever I saw a section that just said, um, the definition or section is deleted,

um, without seeing the original text, I thought that would be helpful to provide was was the original text that would be deleted. Um, sometimes you see something in those texts, a sentence or a phrase or that even though we're um eliminating it, maybe it might apply somewhere else or might maybe better used in some somewhere else in the ordinance. Um, anyhow, that that was my comment on on the cotification. Yeah. Um, didn't we already go through these before? Maybe just generally, but didn't we already see all of the items that Brian brought up, including like flood plane, like the specific things we did go through?

So, last month, George, I think that was the first time was the first time that we've seen all of the codification, right? Um, recommendate recommended changes. Um, and we didn't discuss it at the last meeting because it was a lot to process. M um so so George allowed us another month to um go through them and see if we had any other comments. So yes, we did see them, but we haven't discussed No, I mean like it was a while ago though and these first came out. Yeah, these came out like it was like just at the end of December. Yeah. And we had a quick discussion. You had some questions. I provided comments at some point and stuff. So, but this is like the final version,

complete with all of the editorial comments that I've added to to tell people, explain to people what the changes are and it it it came down to a hundred from originally they had like 140 questions, but what happened was some of their questions over overlapped with your minor policy issues like on affordable housing and those things. So, uh, what I did was pulled out all of their ones, the 40 or so that related to issues that you were dealing with,

excuse me. And basically, so what that draft contains is a hundred, which are pretty much purely editorial changes as opposed to like the deletions that Brian raised questions about. So yeah, this is the opportunity to kind of look through this and if there are changes, actual changes as opposed to just clarifications that's still possible. Uh and so we we should take I encourage you to take a quick look at it or a longer look. Uh and you know if there's anything beyond because that's just that's just presentation what you're raising, Brian. But there's all the content is there too. And and as I explained, uh the ones that Brian raised were uh related to uh like the historic district

program was repealed last year and all of the the standards were changed and the process was changed, but the definitions never got changed. So what this is do is cleaning up some of the uh stuff that was stuck in left over in there that it doesn't it's not in the ordinance anymore. So, uh, the other changes were ones where, uh, several ordinances were folded into this large land use ordinance, the gravel pits, mobile home parks, and many of those had their own penalty provisions and severability provisions that when we put it in, never really pull that stuff out. So basically every article in this ordinance is severable which means if some provision of it is struck down by a court the rest of it remains intact. That's what a severability provision does. So you don't need individual severability ones spread through there and you certainly don't want them in there because then that's confusing what parts are severable what parts are not. So you have one in the administration I think it is part one severability provision for the entire land use what's going to be the land use code and similarly some of those ordinances had varying penalties. There was a fine on addressing of $10. There was a fine on something else of $100. Well under state law towns are guided in terms of what kind of penalties can be assessed for land use violations. though that really is established not by individual provisions uh but by the overarching authority of the town to assess penalties for violations of the ordinance. So those were the types of things that were just deleted um and everything else there's

actually wording changes. So you see we've put in what the wording change was and then showed in bold print what the result is in the updated ordings. So, uh, for those ones that Brian brought up, which you know what was deleted? It's a good point question. Um, so I gave three options for responding to that. Uh, one would be to go ahead and put in the boxes like the other parts, just that it's all deleted, uh, with no explanation. The second option is to explain what I just said for each place that it happens uh but not put in the text that being deleted. And the third option is to do both.

And my recommendation in terms of what the public would most benefit from would be just to put in a simple statement of explanation and then that makes the formatting of this whole long document much easier for me. But I'll do however you want to do it. either just put in the remove text, uh, put in the simple explanation, or put in both. We can we can do however you want to proceed. So, are you suggesting that we would if we went with the deleted text, there'd be a line through that. Yeah. Then the change would be underlined. Well, it's all going to be strike through.

Okay. Yeah, because it's deleted, right? Well, I certainly think it's good to keep the strikethroughs there because a lot of people should realize what is being removed. And I think that's consistent with everything else in the document, um, the strikethroughs. Um, and if if if during a a public meeting, um, there's public comment that needs explanation, George, you you do a great job. Sure. So, we can just hold off until that that comes up. If it comes up. Yep. All right.

So, I I I don't know if you need a vote on this, but um No, your your direction's pretty clear. So, I'll go ahead and put in all of those text parts that were that were removed. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

Yep. Um, oh, and the other uh conversation that Brian and I had on this is that uh some of the changes were uh related to the flood plane management part and as I explained to Brian uh the FEMA uh which administers the national flood program and in order to be eligible for flood insurance in your community, the community has to have adopted the na the national model for folk lane. It's kind of like the short D shoreline zoning guidelines and rules. Uh so basically what the consultant did was they went compared yours with the state model, the current updated state model and basically pointed out all of the differences and said you got to change this wording. And a lot of it uh is updating for things like uh RV parks,

you know, the old flood plane management program uh regulated mobile home parks and flood planes, but not RV parks. So, those are the types of changes that they when they updated it probably years ago, they they put in that we didn't respond to. Um thank you. So just getting uh sticking with this topic. Um today is the 4th. Um last week uh last month we talked about the the schedule for all of this.

And uh right now we have March 18th uh Wednesday March 18th for um and I believe it's going to be held here the first public hearing. And George, will that be that will be just on minor policy changes?

No. My my suggestion would be given that you've had an extensive public participation process leading up to this point and this is just a final opportunity for anybody to question or make comments while changes can still be made. And so my suggestion would be to uh do a short presentation on first the minor policy issues. Uh take any comments or questions on that and then uh do the uh administrative changes. U about 10 of those I think and then take public comment questions on that part. And then the third warrant article is going to be on there related to ordinances is the uh codification itself. again, open it up for public questions, comments, um, and then close the public hearing and then the board can deliberate in terms of if any of the public comment that was submitted changes your mind on any part of those three packages, then what you can do is process that and decide if it should be changed uh, or not. And then if it isn't if nothing is changed as a bas as a result of the public comment that you receive and your further consideration then you don't need to do anything. Uh and on the other hand if you decide you're going to make one change on fire pond sprinklers for example where people came in and said oh no no no keep you can't just allow any of the three. you need to have fire ponds and just, you know, 20 people come in arguing for fire ponds because they love the ponds, whatever. Um, then you could say, okay, I think we need to rethink that. And your options would be to make a recommendation to the select board to ch

to amend it. So, for example, strike out the language in there that says uh a developer can do any of the three. Mhm.

Uh or you could say, well, you know, this thing is bigger than we thought and let's recommend that the select board pull that out, that minor policy issue. Pull that off and pull those amendments off and just go with the rest of it. So, you'd have some options, but you don't need to do anything. This again is just an o one more opportunity to give uh the public the chance to ask for changes to this because after that the select board is going to approve the final versions on April 14th and then it goes to uh incorporation. The warrant articles go for incorporation into the town meeting report that goes out to all households telling them this is available online. The amendments are finalized. You'll be voting on it at the town meeting and and at that point no changes to the ordinance uh amendments can be made. Then the uh public hearing on May 20th is the legally required which happens a couple of weeks before the town meeting and at that point no changes can be made. It's just an opportunity rather than asking questions on the floor of the town meeting. People can discuss it at length at the public hearing uh and get their questions answered and then uh that is required by state law to do that formal. we'll be avoiding putting ads in legal ads in the paper as required by law. And then then it goes to the town meeting. Um, and I'll probably get up the be asked to get up and do a quick uh snapshot of what is on the warrant articles and then answer questions unless one of you would be happy to stand up and represent these because it is policy. Um, and I much prefer to sit in the background and just answer the

technical questions, but I'm willing to you. You're so good at it though, George. Thank you. But I've been doing it once or twice before. Hopefully the public will be totally educated on it and there won't be any questions at the town meeting. Now, can someone at the town meeting make an amendment from the floor to this? No. Okay. No. To Yeah. It's an up or down. Yeah. So, so um March 18th after that meeting or during that meeting is the only time to make any changes, right? Well, for you to decide whether to make changes, right? And then

from there it goes to the we'll probably send some communication. I'll I'll just follow up. If you don't make any changes, yeah, I'll follow up say you have another public hearing uh and the planning board after reviewing the the input does not make any recommendations for change to the drafts that you've looked at. So then the select board on Tuesday, April 14th, they vote on what you're calling the draft. Yeah. And so pretty much no changes unless they want changes. Yeah. No changes after that. Great. I'm sorry. Just I need to just walk through this.

And then on Thursday, May 7th, this goes to the budget committee. No, that that that schedule included both the budget. This was the town manager's included both the budget and the ordinance parts. Okay. So, is it safe to say that on our next planning board meeting, April 1st, we the land use ordinance, anything regarding land use ordinance changes will not be on our agenda? That we can definitely not put it on. Okay. I'm in favor of that.

There's no there's no time in between, right? After the select board has their meeting on the 19th, there's no time after that. uh to make any changes to bring it towards the town meeting. Yeah. And it's after our first public hearing, right? Or the public hearing, right? Uh for any changes, we probably will should announce at that meeting. Just simply announce that the uh public hearing on the amendments will be on May 20th. Okay. And again, at the May meeting, make the same announcement.

Okay. Um any other comments, questions on any sort in its schedule and anything related to anything on that? No. Are we going to do you have more comments for this that we wanted to go through today or I don't other than what George forwarded to you? Those are my only comments and I think we just agreed earlier that he would provide the strike out of what's being taken out. Um I have one thing. Sure. In here um under structure. So if you want to go to page 24 um

uh sorry page page 24. It starts on page 24. structure um definitions of structure. So we've got structure flood plane. I'm not following you. Oh, sorry Juliet. Page 24 of the document, but 25 of the PDF. That makes sense. Um the one with all the the strikeouts and such is page 24. You there? I go ahead. I'll get there. It's alphabetic, right?

Yeah. Qu easiest way to find it is look in the definitions and you'll see they're all alphabetical. So structure. Okay. Yeah. So this is change. Is there a change number on that one? Juliet. Yeah. Number 42. Is that where you are? Yes, that's correct. That's where it starts. Pretty much where it starts. Yeah. So we have Are you there, Brian? I'm getting there. I'm in the ends. Okay. restaurants. Those are some nice changes there. So overall, while he's getting there, yeah,

the select, excuse me, the consultant on those issues where you had multiple, they recommended consolidating them and then doing something. Makes great sense. The question I have is like the definition of structure, and I know this has come up before. Mhm.

Um let's look at shoreland zoning. So it's um right on it's still 42. Um so it says for purposes of article 14 shoreland zone right there right there. um whether temporary or permanent, anything located, built, constructed, or erected for the support, shelter, or enclosure of persons, animals, goods, or property of any kind. Um and and just just for a point of clarification, this is straight out of the chapter 1000 D guidelines.

This is the state approved language for definition. And it's different Yes. than than what we would regulate in terms of structures. Right. Right. And and I just wanted to make sure everyone understands what what and I understand this from the state, but so it says to keep people or animals or goods enclosed, but yet a fence is not a structure. It goes on to say that. And so yeah, just wanted to make sure that because this has come up before a fence. So a fence in all of this is not a structure, right? Yeah. has no roof. I guess you don't need a building permit. You what? You don't need a building permit and the code officer can't tell you your fence is too close to the line or

Right. So there's no setbacks for the fence. The fence is not part of that setback. Right. Right. Okay. I just wanted to make everyone Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. No, thank you, Juliet. Yeah, that was all my only comment and all this. I I made some comments a while back that Have they been addressed? Are you satisfied? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I look through them. Yeah. And George. Yeah. Yes. Answers. Yes.

Um the only other Yeah. Um so so one of the other comments I had and George and I spoke about this was was there was some um text in there about uh zones AE and A1 through 30 and those are not listed in our table of zones. I'm just bringing this up because in the future we we should look at our table of zones. Um, and I'm just giving everybody a heads up that that's going to come up um at some point in the in the future. Not anywhere near future, but

additional clarification on those zones. Well, it all has to do with aquafer flood flood planes. Flood. Okay. So, the the flood plane regulations which you have to or what the state gives gives you through for FEMA. uh they established basically zone A is the 100red-year flood point. Um and some portions of the town have had engineered studies. New Brook for example, remember the road washed out.

Uh some brooks that have a lot of road crossings, they did actual elevations all the way up through to establish the flood 100-year flood elevation. other brooks uh don't have any elevation data because there's nobody out there. U and so if it's AE the only it's the same regulations it's just that the elevation is known. If the elevation isn't known, then somebody h a qualified surveyor engineer has to go out and do a, you know, this would be a house that's close to a work, for example, low line. Uh they would have to do a study to to establish what the flood 100year flood elevation is. And these usually come up where somebody's trying to get a mortgage.

They say, "Oh, there's flood plane. you got to get a flood elevation certificate

uh in order to not have to have flood insurance. So that's what that's about. So Brian was raising the question of should the zone A be in that uh on in the table of uses and I explained to him really it's just the only it's limited to the flood plane regulations and and is really not a zoning issue. it's it's the flood plane uh issue and but I did mention to him that the whole table of uses uh the consultant has already put in some changes um the uh restaurants were listed they had standards for restaurants but they weren't listed as a use so they they did those because that's like an editorial change but uh when we did the battery energy storage systems and solar systems. You talked about contract zoning

and put those in the table and there was discussion of having other large uses and projects possibly added to the table. So, it would be good to kind of after this is done, we've talked about noise regulations. This could be one of those issues to look at the whole table of uses and really say, does this make sense? what you know some of it's outdated I like it you know doggy daycare many communities now have special standards for doggy daycare um and that's I don't even know I think it's probably still listed as kennels in here um so that's type of update

do it globally rather than just one yeah one or two items so is our road commissioner aware of flood plane issues when he would be replacing a bridge on Brooks. Typically what happens is they have an engineering firm that will like a very large crossing. It's a big deal. You know, DOT, D, possibly Army Corps is involved. And so typically it's the engineers that are doing the project that look at that stuff and they're, you know, that's what they do. Even though it may not, well, the one that comes to mind to me is on Swamp Road, which they replaced uh maybe two years ago.

Mhm. And because that's on a it's on a small brook. It's on Meadow Brook. Mhm. And are you saying that odds are there was an engineer I think a state engineer that would have been involved? No, probably the town would hire an engineer. Hire an engine independent. Okay. Yeah. And then the state would review and approve it. Okay. Yep. But no, I like that idea, Brian, going through the uses when after this whole thing, right? Yeah, I think that's something to add to our potential for next season. Yep, it's on the list now. Awesome. Good job.

All right. Wow, 40 minutes. Um, anybody have anything else that they wish to discuss tonight? Wow. Love it. The answer is no. I don't. No. No. I mean I mean we didn't have any much discussion about the continuing business on 6B but it was definitely appropriate since we did not have we had many many unanswered outstanding questions. Yes. So that was definitely appropriate. Yeah. And and they grow the more I look at that think about that. But anyway yes yeah.

Yeah. No. Um, I don't I question whether the applicant was fully aware. Should have been. Don't know. It was the right thing to do. We did give them a heads up. Yeah. Okay. Um, motion to adjurnn. So move. Okay. All in favor? Okay. Thank you. Um, quick heads up. I know this was 40 minutes. There's a potential that next month's meeting could be a really full agenda. Yeah. Just Yeah.

I'm just want uh do we have any other subdivision applicants that have outstanding issues? Do we think any of them are going to be coming forward or we have three cluster subdivisions that are in schematic or preliminary phase? So any one of those three can come in on next month. Can I just clarify? Okay, Greystone Ridge, you already gave your preliminary approval. They're off to the state. So I don't think you're going to see them coming back for final. Okay. Um Okay. This one's coming back.

Yep. next month to hopefully get a decision on their preliminary plan. Uh and then Ivy Ridge is in the process of filing their application. U and um Crooker Realy is uh has is in the process of filing a conditional use application to reopen the Jackson Pit on Cushing Road. Uh it's on the right as you go in right across from the wood processing uh yard. Um so they will be applying for a conditional use permit to reopen that pit. Do you know how long that pit's been closed? No. Okay. It's

they're claiming that it's it was even grandfathered from D. Thank you for elaborating. I just wanted to let you all know that. Yeah. So, it could be a You'll make up for it. Get your sleep tonight. Exactly. Exactly. That's where I was going with that. Pay it forward. Yeah, that's right. All right. Thanks everybody. You're very welcome. Thank you so much. Oh, chief said don't pick up because they got a meeting tomorrow, a training meeting. They said this is perfect. The chairs. Yeah, they're shorter, right? Bonus. Good job, Ryan. to call you. Definitely.

I'm surprised no one showed up though. People here at the previous meeting in the back. Right. Right. Just leave that. train.

See some See you later. Hi everybody. Good night. Good night. See you. Hey church. Hey