Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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chair Gara chair Gara your microphone wasn't on um 6:32 uh the regular meeting of the Planning Commission will come to order of the March 5th 2025 and if we can have Mr commissioner Luhan if you would lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance sir everyone stand flag put your right hand over your heart ready to begin IED ALG to the flag of un States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice great ah well thank you may I have our Planning Commission secretary Ria please call the role yes commissioner Luhan present commissioner sakali uh present commissioner losasi present Vice chair UA present and chair Gara I'm here I'm not being a real I always wonder why people say present or here either way is Right correct so I am here so this is the time set aside for or our Communications for the Planning Commission does any commissioner wish to make any announcements report or any conference meeting or request on any items for future agenda I'll start with Vice chair UA uh I have none okay uh commissioner Legas I have none okay and commissioner I have nothing and I have nothing okay great neither do I so um there is a presentation tonight well first of all um well I guess I can get to you later on there but uh would you like to make any introductions of anybody tonight yes thank you chair G for the opportunity I'd like to uh formally announce the addition of the newest member of our team SWAT mesam U who have you've met earlier tonight as she is our new deputy director of

Community Development and she will be overseeing our planning division operations which includes all our planning team that's uh normally here during the Planning Commission meetings um and also uh overseeing our current Advanced planning our general plan updates so some very key projects in the city we're very lucky that she's uh joined our team as of uh this uh past week on Monday so welcome swatting right thank you um chair and commission I I am very excited to be uh serving your uh body like um the community development director mentioned my name is fatti mam I'm very excited to be here you have a great team of planners and staff that helps you and I'm happy to be a part of that staff thank you welcome aboard on there you'll find Downey is a fine City and we have some really good staff and uh residents so welcome aboard we're glad you're here um at this time there is a presentation uh development process overview will our community development director please introduce staff that's making the presentation yes thank you thank you chair Gara tonight's presentation will be provided by our principal planner Alfonso Hernandez good evening chair Gara members of the Planning Commission my presentation today is regarding the city's development process overview the presentation is about 25 to 30 minutes long if you have any questions throughout my presentation please feel free to pause me and we'll discuss and then on I also wanted to emphasize that we did this presentation exactly a year ago on March 6th of last year with the new faces on the Planning Commission and our staff we thought it was a good time to redo that so a good place to start is the city's General plan the general plan is

a long-term comprehensive plan that outlines the growth and development in the city all cities in California by law are required to have a general plan that plan encompasses a period of 20 years and we use it as a guiding reference for all the activities and tasks that are conducted by the city and staff and within the general plan you'll find that there are goals policies and programs related to things like City Maintenance U maintenance of trees on protections and preservation of specific trees um things of that nature development in the city on in terms of how that's built how big that's built where it's built things like that U to simplify it is a vision and road map of what the future of the city should look like uh the city's current plan General plan is titled dowy Vision 2025 and includes nine chapters or what we refer to as elements uh before moving on to the next sections I did want to specify that we're currently undergoing a full uh update of that General plan and you've you've previously at a different presentation were introduced to those those efforts and that'll be coming to you at towards the end of this year here are the various elements of the general plan as I mentioned there's nine I'll start off with land use and there circulation housing Conservation safety noise open space design and economic development on in the general Plan update that we're working on we also introduce the environmental justice element as well that's required by cities that have disadvantaged communities within them and also I did want to mention that the housing element that we see here has already been updated that task was done in 2022 and that although the the general plan itself is a 20-year plan the housing elements need to be updated every eight years is that it's supposed to be every 20 years or uh the plan how

often is it supposed to be General plans are 20 years 20 years okay and we did it last year I see the 2024 here so this one is a new one or or is this just the I'm looking at the on 2024 so the new one's going to be 2025 no I'll specify so our general plan is our comprehensive plan in the city and that that is different than the packet that you have the packet that you have is a report on the general plan okay so on a yearly basis we report on the programs and implementations that we made throughout 2024 last year we did it for 2023 um but the plan itself and the programs there they they they rotate every 20 years and when was the last time we did it uh 2005 205 okay 2005 I don't know why I said 2005 okay it's okay where was I and so yes uh the housing an I did mention that it's it was previously updated that one is required for every eight years in terms of the imple implementation that housing element the pet commission recently approved recommendation and the city council adopted ordinances for some implementations of those programs in that housing element and also I wanted to briefly discuss the land use element on the land use element itself establishes um the desired zoning throughout the city and provides guidance in terms of goals and objectives for the development on private property um that's conducted throughout the city the other guiding document is the city of Downey's municipal code and more relevant to planning is our zoning code and zoning map standards found within our code and our map on our implementations of the goals and policies found within the city's General plan if I could simplify or put a different way the general plan is is a plan simply a plan and then our zoning code and map execute that plan uh the

zoning code provides concrete specific standards for homeowners business owners contractors Architects that must follow when they're designing their projects and our zoning map dictates the appropriate location on for where things should be in place throughout the city and then again to simplify it once more the zoning code and zoning map dictate where different types of developments and uses can occur and how those developments will look and to provide everybody with an example of what our zoning map looks like I did District 3 I wanted to incorporate the whole city but it just became Inc elgible at that point so but to to go through it most of our city is on composed of our one single family and that's what we see in the yellow and our our major corridors we have more of commercials what you see and reflected in red and the pinks and we also have in brown if you notice is a multif family and then in the District 3 we also have two sites sorry two locations where sites are also manufacturing so so I don't expect you to know the answer to this but what percentage would you say is commercial in our city or or general retail cuz I know like you know Lakewood has an issue because theirs is so small on there from a revenue stamp what would you say down you take a guess or would you like to ask tell me later or something I could if I could tell you later even that type of information is located in our general plan it breaks it down by how much acreage R1 is how much acreage commercial is and on I didn't expect you to have that number but we could we could pull it up quickly when when I get back to my seat okay um Alonso quick yes sir if I may Mr chair just to follow up on on um chair garth's question earlier so 2005 was the last time that um the general plan was um approved yes sir by

the council so is it is it am I understanding this correctly at the 20th anniversary is there another TW another General plan that's going to be introduced yes so typically um it it rotates every 20 years so currently we're doing that now in 2025 for the next 20 years and that's State mandated it's every 20 it is State mandated some cities go beyond that U but they're required to come into compliance some cities do it a lot earlier we started our process of doing it about three years ago and getting Consultants getting the housing element done first and and then locating Consultants or getting Consultants on board to do the comprehensive plan okay pretty neat thank you for that I I have a question does the city uh do any amendments to this uh General plan uh on as need basis yes yes and as need basis as new state laws require us to do so like the housing element every eight years um the general plan also applies to specific properties on every property has what we call a general plan designation which dictates the type of zoning they should have and the type of uses that should be on there at times private developers want to change that so those come before you to be amended to a different General plan designation different zoning things of that nature okay thanks and chair Gara and commission I do have a a response on the breakdown of land uses so the city's land use distribution for residential the percentage is approximately 61% of the city is residential approximately 11% is commercial and approximately a 9% is manufacturing we um and then the remaining portion is dist distributed between open space schools and U mixed use and that makes up a percentage of about 20% overall

combin thank you for that information one more question s do we have a zone for um hospitals and what do you call them whatever you call them um yes we have a zone for Hospital medical it's not indicated on this map but it's mainly located closest to our downtown where we have pi okay yeah and then U the the other Hospital major hospitals that we have is uh Rancho Los Amigos on that one is R1 it's County property so we we haven't updated that but part of this comprehensive update we'll be updating that and then the other is on Kaiser and that's located within the dowy L Pacific plan than I'm sorry off I'm laughing because you haven't even got patch page one yet so sorry about that 25 became an hour 25 we're we're inquisitive so sorry about that wores I'll just say that these are excellent questions and we appreciate these questions and I think the these questions and US providing the answers provides just a good understanding for the group as we are entering our or in our general Plan update and so I think although we've provided this presentation a year ago I think um a lot has happened over the last year that gives a little bit more context for the question and answer so we appreciate it AG great so now I'll move on to the U development reviews U these are broken down into two categories ministerial and discretionary first starting with ministerial uh they are typically referred to as byright or permitted projects projects that meet the development standards and Zoning standards um and do not require additional planning approval essentially they are projects in which the code specifies how they're to be approved and on when they're supposed to be approved and on that they are not subject to additional staff or decision-mak body review examples of ministerial projects

include over the- counter permits such as Banner permits or temporary signs rather uh business sidewalk sales and business licenses another example is building permits for things like home additions fences and edus the second category is discretionary review um this is also known as entitlements um these involve special approvals um that are either conducted by the director at the director level or by the Planning Commission for specific types of projects or by the city council um for other specific types of projects the municipal code dictates which body approves which permits and also should add that although some of these permits are approved by our city council um they are always coming to you first um as you as an advisory body to provide them with the recommendation for those types of applications additional characteristics of these permits um are that they must be noticed um and that they must be held in a public hearing setting and then also that the public has the opportunity to provide public [Music] comment here are the various examples of those permits and who decides upon them and again these are dictated by the municipal code uh for the director level there administrative permits such as minor modifications minor conditional use permits minor site planine reviews home occupation permits uh temporary use of land permits special events on some type of special events and then temporary uh outdoor sales and sign permits as well for the Planning Commission they are conditional use permits site plan reviews plan sign programs variances plan unit developments tenative track maps and tenative parcel maps and then for the city council uh there are General plan amendments or new general plans new specific plan specific plan amendments zone changes and Zone text

amendments and then just again to emphasize these permits listed here on that go to the Planning Commission sorry that go to the city council are first heard by the Planning Commission as an advisory body making a recommendation to them and everything that the Planning Commission does can be appealed to the city council yes sir okay yes sir is all those things listed there's no exceptions to them go back on there that is correct some of them I just just just to emphasize the point the tenative parcel map and the tenative track map if if you were to deny them they could be appealed to the to the city council yes I was going to say that they go automatically to the city council because they come back as what we call Final maps so they go back they they go automatically to them and then once again to further emphasize the point as uh the planet commission is is an advisory body and certain permits again first come to you for recommendation before they go to plan to the city [Music] council now I'll dive into the actual development review process and we'll break that down into four categories that's project review environmental review public hearing and appeals first with the project review the prior to formal submitt applicants are encouraged to submit what are called preliminary review applications in which staff conducts a thorough review and provides them comments on prior to them submitting for formal review the the objective there is to provide the applicants with a thorough understanding of what it is that they're supposed to submit what the cost will be for those for those projects and the list of potential conditions that they need to be aware of when undertaking that type of project and then in terms of that the

the that we provide them the list we provide them we try to provide them an outline of what this process will look like from beginning when they submit a formal permit to all the way when they submit for and get a building permit on during the uh preliminary stage and once again after formal submitt um the project is routed to our development Review Committee that development Review Committee is made up by different divisions and departments in the city including fire police Public Works and our Building Division and our Community Development Department and then all these permits must be reviewed initially through the first review in on 30 days per the permit stream lining act within the 30 days I just mentioned project completeness includes a review of items submitted to ensure that staff has all the necessary items available to provide a analysis and provide the planet commission or the city council with the with a thorough recommendation on if all necessary submit or items are not submitted then applicants are given what's called an incomplete letter or incomplete status on detailing what still needs to be submitted if all items are deemed complete then we start the process of review and Analysis and creating the packets that come before you for public hearing as an example of some of these items that we review for completeness on our City's application form project plans owner authorization photo renderings on the full list is a required the full list of required items that people need to submit are found in the in the city's U application forms and they differ between permits so as an example a permit for a site review for the construction of a new let's say office those requirements will differ than say for a subdivision application I'll have a question does

that also apply to a um addition to a property on in this process so specifically talking about entitlements that are submitted we do have a a different procedures in place for somebody who wanted to do an addition we have a full list of what they should submit in order for um for them to go into permits on building permit plan check and for them to get approvals such as they need a floor plan elevation site plan um this process specifically is is required by law that we provide applicants exactly what they need to submit for the discretionary permits and now on to environmental review all projects that are considered discretionary which include the items that you hear before you at the public hearings are all subject to the California environmental equality act the ACT is a state law that requires agencies to analyze and disclose any potential environmental impacts this is required for various reasons so that decision-making bodies on are well informed before they make their uh their decisions and so the public is well informed and they could provide testimony and comment on those items the second is so that projects avoid and reduce environmental impacts the third is to prevent any potential impacts through the implementation of what we call mitigations and then lastly is on when environmental impacts can't be mitigated is that the pro there's certain procedures in the law that require us to make findings and disclosures on as to why it's being approved and potentially being approved for community's benefit like a like a Clipper Stadium without like a Clipper Stadium I still can't believe they did that with that being said most of the projects that come before you are exempt these exemptions are either because the law doesn't apply to those types of projects such as the Min ministerial

projects that go to on the director I'm sorry no the ministerial projects such as your building plan checks that are are considered by right on for most entitlements including those that go to the director they are subject to the to the SQL law um within the SQL law itself there's a list of exemptions U that have been determined to hold no potential environmental impacts these exemptions are called categorical exemptions and statutory exemptions more than likely we'll be dealing with uh categorical exemptions when they come before you examples of this include existing facilities as a class one an example of that could be the ABC licenses that come before you as cups they typically go into restaurants that are already established so that's what we call an existing facility another example could be a class three of small structures and let's say there's a business that's operating and they submit for a minor s plan review to do a th000 square feet addition those types of permits are approved at the director level on those are called small structure types of exemptions Al I have a question for the categoric exemption uh would that be at the director level and or city council's approval uh yes so the project anything that's considered discretionary so anything that somebody makes a decision over and not it's not what we call by right where it's prescribed in our code is subject to squa and then what we initially do is look to see if those projects qualify for for an exemption and there's more than 32 of these exemptions so we look to see if anything qualifies if they don't then they jump into a different process I'll be discussing in the next slides so with that when there are no exemptions that apply to a project then additional environmental review is required uh these processes are outlined in the state law in that act and begin with what's called an initial study the initial study reviews specific

categories the categories consist of air quality traffic noise Aesthetics things of that nature and then depending on the findings of that initial study then we it gets kicked over to three different types of reviews on the initial study with those categories lumps impacts by no impact on impact or less than significant impact with mitigations placed on the project or unavoidable impacts so if it's determined that the initial study has come back then foreseeably there are no environmental impacts it's the project under goes what's called a negative declaration So based off of that initial study we can make with certainty that there is no impact for it if with certainty we've reviewed that initial study and we found that there may be an impact but with certainty we know that we can apply mitigations to the project then that gets kicked over to what's called a mitigative negative decoration if within the initial study we find that there are impacts that we can't reasonably foresee at that moment the beginning of the project that we cannot mitigate these mitigations then it goes into what's called an environmental impact report which is the highest level of environmental review under squa and during that process there are technical studies conducted to see what these impacts if truly we cannot mitigate these impacts sometimes we find that we may have thought that we couldn't but we we can so we'll draft what's called a mitigation measure a monitoring program and then sometimes we may find that we can't uh mitigate these impacts and that's when we have to make findings that there's a community benefit and the project can still go forward do we have went in the last five years in Downey that you can recall yeah uh last year the prologist project came before you there was impacts that couldn't be mitigated uh in terms of noise and then I'm not sure how much I

should go into that that example I would prefer to John the uh I think the matter you may have in questioned has been concluded so you're free to a uh follow into more detail if you'd like so in that there was a nighttime construction that generated some noise and we could not mitigate that for for various reasons and the Planning Commission and city council determined that because of the public benefit that it was okay to to accept that and then just to add to that uh part of the discussion and determination uh for the project was that uh because there was an unavoidable impact related to noise uh there was a mitigation measure in place that requires the applicant and a part of the discussion from the commission during the hearing process and deliberation was to include uh additional conditions that would require the applicant to notify uh a certain radius around the project to be able to uh capture residents that might be impact impacted by the noise construction and uh the uh commission also voted to limit the number of consecutive days where the applicant would be able to obtain a temporary land use permit allowing for that overnight construction so uh again even though it was unavoidable uh through the planning commission's deliberation and I think it back and forth with with staff we were able to arrive at a a happy medium if you will to be able to to address uh impacts to neighbors I remember well is there any other ones in the last so many years X number of years that we could find that were unavoidable impacts on no not that I could recall okay no just curious you that meeting I just remembered we we it was on March 6 2024 the meeting yeah most of the other environmental uh environmental reviews

that come before you have been found to be mitigated that can be mitigated uh The Next Step would be public hearing public hearing items are presented to the Planning Commission and if applicable to the city council for their deliberation in a public setting as part of the meeting packets the public and the planet commission received a meet receive a meeting agenda with the items that will be discussed for that meeting each public hearing item includes a staff report that details the pro the specifics of the project such as background Conformity with the general plan Conformity with the municipal code and the analysis of the various components of the project and also uh findings in your resolutions that have to be made in affirmative act in an affirmative manner a manner meaning a yes statement on these findings are found within our municipal code and again our are found in your draft draft uh resolutions when they come before you oh and then lastly I almost forgot is within your resolution is also what we call conditions of approval those conditions of approval the objective is to set standards uh to mitigate any potential uh nuisances that may occur from a specific property such as hours of operation for specific types of businesses or the placement of security for specific type of businesses or screening of equipment or at times two Street improvements if if relevant to the project and I should say directly correlated to the project as well U prior to the Planning Commission meeting each public hearing also requires noticing the exact requirements are dictated by our municipal code and most of the projects that we deal with also require uh mailers to be sent out to property owners for admin permits at mailers to be sent out within 100 foot radius of the um of the project that's

being considered by the director and then for Planning Commission and City count so that's 500 ft um recently um the code only requires that we send them out to uh Property Owners but recently we've also taken the effort of sending them out to Residents and tenants that live at those sites as well in addition to the mailing notices the code also requires that we advertise the public hearings in a newspaper we select to typically do that with the Downey Patriot um I should also add when projects are Citywide we don't send out mailers and instead we publish a 1/ 18 AD with the Downey Patriot also I show out too is that those mailers and the and the newspaper are required to be published 10 days before a public hearing and then most importantly the reason why we notice is to inform the public to be able to come out and give testimony and provide input on the project I'd also like to add on this slide that when we discuss projects with applicants and uh especially if there's for example residents nearby that might be impacted by construction or noise or activities of the business um that that are being considered we advise them early on and through the process that they voluntarily on their own conduct Outreach with neighbors to be able to gain input that may they may take into consideration um as their um re as their project is being reviewed by the city so again uh I think just from Lessons Learned I think from other projects in the city and just you know it's very common in cities that residents and folks that live around projects want to know what's happening well in advance of a public hearing so we make that effort to encourage the applicants to do that as well and and many of them have taken our advice or are in that process of

considering that the other thing we've done recently and this was a something we we decided on our own is a housing project that was before the commission um we wanted to make sure that uh the Olen project over by the island we wanted to make sure that the residents were aware of upcoming hearings and the city took it upon ourselves as staff to post signs in front of the um project site with the uh okay and approval of the property owner and the applicant uh we didn't just do it on our own we did obtain their their approval to make sure that we can put the sign since we were putting them on the setback uh so again we tried to be aware of some of the sensitivities that might come with projects and uh we make we guide the applicant and make some of those decisions along the way thank you for doing that that I can't stress how important that is especially I mean you know the 100500 feet radius and stuff like that but sometimes it's not within them but it still changes a whole neighborhood and so forth I literally had it open there and I just you're right I I was we're approving the minutes of last year for that and they visited 480 residents and 70 visits to the community they it was literally on that paragraph that you just mentioned that so other things we've done is when we've heard with members of the public that they're concerned about something that they're hearing that's happening in the city is we've invited them to meet with staff to review plans I can recall one that hasn't come to the hearing that may may or may not uh but once they were uh at City Hall and we made an appointment and we reviewed the plans and heard them out then we were able to you know give them a really clear idea what might be proposed and then we also shared that with the applicant so they can take that opportunity to see if they can hear out those concerns of of that particular resident it was the Mark Mark School St Marks St I think St Marks was one that that came out that way too

yeah uh with the completion of of the public noticing and your packing materials and Publishing them on our City's website and at different locations throughout the city um the public hearing is is is Set uh the action is deliberated and decided upon and before or after hearing testimony from staff and the public and the Planning Commission takes action on to approve or deny and then once again I'd like to emphasize that dependent on the type of permit the item is decided by the Planning Commission as a recommendation to city council or approved if it if you are the decision-making body for that item and moving on to appeals on projects that come before the director come before the py commission are subject to appeal uh members have 15 days to uh Appeal on the actions that are made by the Planning Commission and the community development director uh director um decisions are appealable to the Planning Commission the Planning Commission decisions are appealable to city council and the city council decisions are final as it pertains to City actions and then on that concludes the overview of the development process however I did before I concluded wanted to briefly discuss on housing procedures and Housing Development uh due to the number of state laws that pertain to Housing Development some projects that were once um undergone the procedures that I just discussed are now potentially ministerial as you may recall recently recommended to approve uh City housing overlay zones on those types of those types of projects if um compliance with the standards in them the compliance with objective design standards that were also recommended for approval uh then become ministerial projects um in addition we have no net loss that we have to make in terms of findings when say a commercial project that's included into the overlays on

what choose not to do housing then we have to make specific findings what changes of process that previously discussed and there's other state laws that have more streamlined processes that just kick uh Housing Development straight to administrative review and then there's additional requirements if they choose to do density bonuses and the city also has an ordinance for inclusionary housing that requires housing developments to provide at least 10% of their units at moderate housing affordable income levels and then uh the the objective of most of these state laws is to streamline the construction of more housing and with that I conclude my presentation I'm available for any [Music] questions chair gar if I may add also another process that the city has used frequently is uh offering applicants to submit into the city's preliminary review process and this is an application that would come as a precursor to filing an entitlement Project A lot of times we find that folks are looking at potentially purchasing a property or making large in considering making large investments into design drawings that might be costly and they want to know if their idea or their project has any major red flags any cost that they should consider before they move forward too far along in their project and so that process is called the preliminary review uh application process and you'll find that in the development activity reports that I sent out that some of those projects that are highlighted in there are part of the preliminary review and those applications are treated very similar to entitlements where applications are filed applicant gives us information they're requesting feedback from different departments including planning Public Works fire the the same departments and divisions that are included in entitlement reviews and so

we provide a review of the application and the materials provided and then we provide them a letter similar to what Alonso just described a comment letter letting them know of any um deficiencies in the project deficiency information is very often a comment for us to be able to comprehensively assess the project and identify red flags but really the goal there is to try to get them on the right course um so they can understand the feasibility of their idea or project you know when it comes up to that too is the I know we don't have one right now but I heard talk through you guys are are you looking at a historical preservation ordinance or is the council looking at that I had heard that uh that we're it's not the historic preservation ordinance as part of the city's General Plan update the city is developing historic context statements which is an understanding and review of the development uh patterns of development of the city of Downey and also looking at the built environment structures locations that still might exist that are um tied into those historical periods and so that's part of the city's General Plan update and and I know do we have I know obviously the re Mansion but do we have any other historical houses or buildings in the oh the Kaufman Wing probably in the in the re mans are probably the only two right we have the parley excuse if I say it parley Johnson right uh the debes uh house that's and we have the uh the oldest operating McDonald's right and the Reeves Mansion likeing thank you the caufman and then we also have the grammar school Arch that's right Civic Center I I don't

think that the BOS big boy no it was the Googy architect that was the whole reason we saved it as a city but I don't think so yeah that's interesting okay thanks didn't go down memory Lane um okay so um there is no uh thank you very much for that Alonso and thank you for the clarifications uh we don't have any public hearings tonight and we don't have anybody in the public here for the non-agenda public comment uh there's no literally nobody here um and uh so I wanted to go into the rest of the agenda so the consent calendar we have uh item a is the general plan housing Amendment report and then the approval of the minutes from April 17th um I can't vote or I'm not going to vote on the minutes of April 17 because I wasn't here it's listed on there that I was absent last year that time um but I did ask have a question because and reading the minutes it just seemed the the meeting just stopped okay so it literally came out you know City Attorney John Funk intervene and say the public comment period has terminated and the public public hearing is not closed and then it just ended and then but then we brought that item back to the next meeting so I guess that's correct I just wanted to clarify that we I talked about it thank you chair gar yes you did ask me about that earlier and just for clarification for the rest of the commission and staff I was um able to share with uh chair Garett that the meeting did end in that way it was a fairly unconventional ending uh but the minutes are correct which is what's before you and and if if you had viewed the video Just for future reference we talked about this last meeting if a commissioner is absent but does view the video uh they are uh able to vote but again you you may abstain um and that is

U again um yeah okay I I saw parts of it but I didn't see enough of it that I'm am going to abstain so anyways so um is there a motion to accept item a the general plan housing element and number B approval of the minutes from April 17th can we do one at a time yes uh item a general plan and housing amend I have no promis there a motion for that sure I move that we approve it okay yes sir second it okay we have a motion of second any further discussion on it okay then go ahead and vote please oh you're um yeah you were you were here for this one yeah you can vote on that one you're here um okay great thank you so that passes now is there a a consent excuse me is there approval is there a motion for approval of the minutes from the April 17th 2024 um minutes I make a motion to approve approval of the minutes from April 17 2024 I can second it okay any further discussion Mr Cy did you have any com I didn't know when I started here so I don't remember if I was here in the that time so you were well you're all over the minutes yeah you asked some good questions I read the minute but you I read some of but yeah Mr Luhan made the motion and you seconded it so I did read the minutes he's so you were must have been a while back right yeah yeah yeah okay I'm good with that so we have a motion in a second to approve the minutes from April 17 244 like I said I'm I will I am going to abstain because I wasn't here uh and so forth and obviously you may or may not want to it's up to you yeah just for the record I would just Echo what um our director said in that it is it is possible for Commissioners to vote on minutes um if they weren't part of the

commission or present at the meeting um at that respective meeting that is U provided that they either view the video or read the minutes and um are comfortable um knowing what those contain and educate themselves about the proceedings um so that's um just something I wanted to introduce for the record to e what um director richon said as well okay thank you so much similar similar to um our last meeting um and the other two set of minutes I I have reviewed and I I I'm a nerd I saw every video of 2024 of all you great folks W so yes I saw the video must I have a lot of time on your hands yes sir yes sir pretty boring too boring okay so we have a motion in a second is there any that are you okay you we're having technical typ it in that's okay consent calendar just for clarification there's a motion in a second yes there is a motion the motion was made by Luhan and a second by thank you so we have a motion and a second would you um set it up for us to vote on it yes it's it's ready to vote okay but we don't have it on our screens not yet screen it's not popping oh the screen is not matching the screen our voting thing is not matching that there we go there we go okay

motion passes 4 to zero 401 sorry just for clarification the motion passes four yeses and one abstention thank you okay is there any other business uh does a community direct development director have any additional comments uh I don't B uh thank you so much for coming a little bit earlier today to welcome SWAT appreciate it you're welcome aboard great welcome ma'am with that uh city council plan excuse City Planning Commission meeting is now oberved y